Hello,

For the R Wiki, not very realistic to think about fusing it with the other tools, due to the nature of a wiki on one hand, and the necessity to share the CRAN site across different repositories on the other hand.

Also, I think that packages development is in the hand of their respective developers/maintainers. Except for making sure they pass R CMD check and respect a limited amount of requirements (license, size of enclosed documents, ...), it is probably not a good idea to FORCE people to collaborate, or share the same point of view for a given R extension. There are sometimes very different implementations of the same concept, e.g., object oriented approaches in S3/S4 (official), but see also R.oo or proto for alternative ideas. Another example: RUnit vs svUnit vs testthat. Would not be a good idea to force all these people to share the same implementation and fuse everything in a single package,... unless they decide by themselves, and completely freely, to do so.

This is an Open Source community, and it evolves a little bit like natural living ecosystems... with different ideas that could emerge and are ultimately selected by a kind of natural selection mechanism, related to (1) adoption of one or the other tool by the R community, and (2) the energy put in the project by their developers to maintain or make it better suitable to the community. That mechanism can only work if you are not too rigid in constraints for R packages.

The drawback is a little bit of confusion for the end-user that does not always easily know which of the different implementations he should adopt.

Best,

Philippe Grosjean


On 22/08/11 06:02, Etienne Low-Décarie wrote:
I propose the following humbly, with little know how as to how to implement, 
and realize it may have been proposed many times.  It is just something I had 
on my mind.

Would it be possible/desirable to have the whole CRAN package repository 
accessible through a public wiki, forge or version control interface (ideally a 
fusion of the wiki and forge approach)?


It appears it would be a first for a software repository.

CRAN package repository is becoming a jungle of R code and may do well with 
currating and editorial effort.  This can not/should not be the task of a 
single person or small group of people.  Using a crowd sourced method by 
implementing a wiki approach to the CRAN package repository would allow for the 
rapid editing, sorting and improvement of this impressive and precious 
resource, while also improving the accessibility, visibility and quality of 
individual packages.  It would also bind the

For example, such an interface would allow the cleaning up of the repository 
through the use of tagging of packages, using similar approaches to the 
wikipedia project 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages#Cleanup).

Such a tagging approach could be used within existing vcs, if the repository 
was migrated/mirrored within one of these systems.


Packages could be marked using tags for all following actions prior to 
implementing the action.  Actions could be undertaken directly by package users 
after a delay or discussion.

Packages management/editorial effort:
        -Merging/
                -Combining packages that have:
                        -Large overlap in functionality
                        -Are largely interdependant
                        -Are only minor extensions of another package
                        -…
        -Split/fork
                -Subdividing behemoth packages into smaller packages with more 
specific tasks
        -Categorization
                -Packages could be sorted by use, improvement of Task View
                -Tags, keywords could be added to packages for searching
                -Packages could be placed in a hierarchy, not only by true 
dependance and reverse dependance, but also by logical dependance/reverse 
dependance
                        -ie. which package should probably be used with which 
package, an improvement on the see also help section
        -Deletion
        -Marking/tagging
                -a stub/prototype
                -broken
Package improvements
        -Improving help files
        -Adding functions
        -Adding examples
        -Requiring, improving or adding references
                -References to the theory or approach used...
                -A section could include a list of articles making use of the 
package, with package users encourage to enter this information
                -This would allow package author recognition and allow a 
package impact factor
        -Adding key words for indexing and searching
        -Function improvement
                -Adding compatibility with other packages/formats (including 
when merging packages)
                -Speed improvements
Discussion
        -On package improvements, management steps directly attached to the 
package
        -Help discussion
        
        


These actions would be reversible, possibly with veto power from the author of 
the package.

Links:
http://www.rforge.net/
http://sourceforge.net/
http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/174561-Coding-Wiki
http://code.google.com/p/mcover/
http://www.tigris.org/

This is just an idea I had on my mind.

Thank you

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