> On Mar 29, 2016, at 1:47 PM, Jennifer Wu, Miss <jennifer....@mail.mcgill.ca> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am currently using R v3.2.3 and on Windows 10 OS 64Bit.
> 
> I am having convergence issues when I use coxph with a interaction term 
> (glarg*bca_py) and interaction term with the restricted cubic spline 
> (glarg*bca_time_ns). I use survival and spline package to create the Cox 
> model and cubic splines respectively. Without the interaction term and/or 
> spline, I have no convergence problem. I read some forums about changing the 
> iterations and I have but it did not work. I was just wondering if I am using 
> the inter.max and outer.max appropriately. I read the survival manual, other 
> R-help and stackoverflow pages and it suggested changing the iterations but 
> it doesn't specify what is the max I can go. I ran something similar in SAS 
> and did not run into a convergence problem.
> 
> This is my code:
> 
> bca_time_ns <- ns(ins_ca$bca_py, knots=3, Boundary.knots=range(2,5,10))
> test <- ins_ca$glarg*ins_ca$bca_py
> test1 <- ins_ca$glarg*bca_time_ns

In your `coxph` call the variable 'bca_py' is the survival time and yet here 
you are constructing not just one but two interactions (one of which is a 
vector but the other one a matrix) between 'glarg' and your survival times. Is 
this some sort of effort to identify a violation of proportionality over the 
course of a study?

Broström sagely points out that these interactions are not in the data-object 
and subsequent efforts to refer to them may be confounded by the multiple 
environments from which data would be coming into the model. Better to have 
everything come in from the data-object.

The fact that SAS did not have a problem with this rather self-referential or 
circular model may be a poor reflection on SAS rather than on the survival 
package. Unlike Therneau or Broström who asked for data, I suggest the problem 
lies with the model construction and you should be reading what Therneau has 
written about identification of non-proportionality and identification of time 
dependence of effects. See Chapter 6 of his "Modeling Survival Data".

-- 

David Winsemius
Alameda, CA, USA
> 
> coxit <- coxph.control(iter.max=10000, outer.max=10000)
> 
> bca<-coxph(Surv(bca_py,bca) ~ glarg + test + test1 + age + calyr + diab_dur + 
> hba1c + adm_met + adm_sulfo + adm_tzd + adm_oth +
>            med_statin + med_aspirin + med_nsaids + bmi_cat + ccscat + alc + 
> smk, data=ins_ca, control=coxit, ties=c("breslow"))
> 
> 
> This is the error message I get:
> 
> Warning message:
> In fitter(X, Y, strats, offset, init, control, weights = weights,  :
>  Ran out of iterations and did not converge
> 
> 
> 
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