On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:25:38 +0200, Jim Lemon <j...@bitwrit.com.au> wrote:

Liviu Andronic wrote:
Could someone give a brief and subjective overview of ESS. I notice
that many people use it, and many describe it as the tool for the
power user. As far as I'm concerned, I've once again looked at Emacs
(after couple of years) and I still don't feel like using it for my
editing purposes.

Hi Liviu,
I was going to steer clear of this one, as my favorite editor (NEdit) has become mildly incompatible with my favorite window manager (KDE) on my favorite operating system (Linux) and I have sadly taken to using KWrite, hoping that things will get better. Still, one must not get stuck in a rut, so I decided to download Emacs and try it again. Twenty four megabytes poorer, I find that things are much the same. Emacs still has that annoying trait of being determinedly incompatible with anything else, even if the conventions are quite sensible. Thus most of my keyboard shortcuts that I use all the time just don't work. Do I want to learn Emacs shortcuts so that I will hit the wrong key shortcuts on all my other applications? No way.

Just customize Emacs to use your shortcuts - a couple of hours and you are done. Probably your "standard shortcuts" are all already there (CUA mode http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CuaMode)

As far as the connection to R goes, I tried unsuccessfully some time back to write a general purpose function that would connect any editor that could send a block of text back to R and have it evaluated.

Emacs has dozens of ways to send text to process and much much more - it will take you years to implement a fraction of that by yourself. Don't rack our finger, move to ESS!

Vitalie

I see that more and more editors are being added to the rarefied list that can do this, and hope that one day this apparently solveable problem will be solved and R users can use the editor that they prefer.

Jim

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