Has the discussion about potential updates to Rd2HTML come to an end?
Should I be prepared to fix non-file package-anchored links in
(non-roxygen) packages I maintain, i.e., look up the help file structure
of the referenced packages?

I don't yet believe that R has really given up on supporting
developer-friendly, direct and simple links to

             _topic_       rather than            _file_

\link[rgeos]{gIntersection}     -> \link[rgeos]{topo-bin-gIntersection}

\link[colorspace]{heat_hcl}     -> \link[colorspace]{rainbow_hcl}

\link[RColorBrewer]{brewer.pal} -> \link[RColorBrewer]{ColorBrewer}

\link[gridExtra]{grid.arrange}  -> link[gridExtra]{arrangeGrob}

\link[ggplot2]{geom_line}       -> \link[ggplot2]{geom_path}

for pointing to other packages which are only in Suggests and thus not
necessarily installed at install-time of the referencing package.

Topic-based links to external functions are so much more intuitive. I do
not understand why there should be a penalty for clearly identifying the
target package as opposed to just writing \link{topic} and hoping that
the intended package will be found by the help system at run time.

        Sebastian


Am 02.07.20 um 11:20 schrieb Gábor Csárdi:
> You can set the _R_CHECK_XREFS_MIND_SUSPECT_ANCHORS_=true env var and
> use R-devel.
> 
> Alternatively, and you don't need R-devel for this, you can run R CMD
> --html INSTALL on your package, and then look for messages that
> contain "treated as a topic", e.g.
> 
>     curl_fds                                html
> Rd warning: /Users/gaborcsardi/works/processx/man/curl_fds.Rd:11: file
> link ‘multi_fdset’ in package ‘curl’ does not exist and so has been
> treated as a topic
> 
> Gabor
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 10:06 AM Jan Gorecki <j.gore...@wit.edu.pl> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> What is the recommended way to test for those issues locally?
>> If it is tested during cran submission, then seems reasonable to be enabled 
>> just by --as-cran switch. Is it?
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Wed 17 Jun, 2020, 12:32 AM Wayne Oldford, <rwoldf...@uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Gábor Csárdi <csardi.ga...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 4:32 PM
>>> To: Wayne Oldford <rwoldf...@uwaterloo.ca>
>>> Cc: List r-package-devel <r-package-devel@r-project.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [R-pkg-devel] check cross-references error: Non-file 
>>> package-anchored link(s)
>>>
>>>     This is how to look up the filename. The first "sp" is the topic name,
>>>     the second is the package name.
>>>
>>>     > help("sp", "sp")[[1]]
>>>     [1] "C:/Users/csard/R/win-library/4.0/sp/help/00sp"
>>>
>>>     So you need to link to the "00sp.Rd" file:  \link[sp:00sp]{sp}
>>>
>>>     Gabor
>>>
>>>     On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:09 PM Wayne Oldford <rwoldf...@uwaterloo.ca> 
>>> wrote:
>>>     >
>>>     > Hi
>>>     >
>>>     > I got caught by this new test this week in trying to push an updated 
>>> release of the loon package to CRAN.
>>>     >
>>>     > By following this thread, I corrected my cross-references to external 
>>> packages but I got stymied by
>>>     > the one I hoped to give to the  "sp" package for Spatial data
>>>     >
>>>     > _________
>>>     >
>>>     > Here is the history:
>>>     >
>>>     > I tried
>>>     >    \link[sp:sp]{sp}
>>>     > which failed here:
>>>     > Debian: 
>>> <https://win-builder.r-project.org/incoming_pretest/loon_1.3.1_20200616_162128/Debian/00check.log>
>>>     > Status: 1 WARNING
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     > That was meant to correct an earlier attempt (it did for other links 
>>> to "scales" for example) where I had tried
>>>     >   \link[sp]{sp}
>>>     > and  failed here:
>>>     > Debian: 
>>> <https://win-builder.r-project.org/incoming_pretest/loon_1.3.1_20200615_213749/Debian/00check.log>
>>>     > Status: 1 WARNING
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     > So to complete the possibilities as I understand them,  I just now 
>>> tried
>>>     >    \link{sp}
>>>     > which, as might be expected, failed here:
>>>     > Debian: 
>>> <https://win-builder.r-project.org/incoming_pretest/loon_1.3.1_20200616_213921/Debian/00check.log>
>>>     > Status: 1 WARNING
>>>     > As expected, error here was different:  "Missing  link"  as opposed 
>>> to "Non-file package-anchored link"
>>>     >
>>>     > _________
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     > I am not sure whether I have missed a subtlety in WRE or that the 
>>> peculiar circumstance
>>>     > where the package, the topic, and the file name are all identical 
>>> (sp) is some weird boundary case.
>>>     >
>>>     > Without further advice, I think I am just going to remove the link to 
>>> "sp".
>>>     > It really is just a courtesy link to the package description for "sp".
>>>     >
>>>     > Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
>>>     >
>>>     > Wayne
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     > -----Original Message-----
>>>     > From: R-package-devel <r-package-devel-boun...@r-project.org> on 
>>> behalf of Georgi Boshnakov <georgi.boshna...@manchester.ac.uk>
>>>     > Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 at 9:27 AM
>>>     > To: Gábor Csárdi <csardi.ga...@gmail.com>, Duncan Murdoch 
>>> <murdoch.dun...@gmail.com>
>>>     > Cc: List r-package-devel <r-package-devel@r-project.org>
>>>     > Subject: Re: [R-pkg-devel] check cross-references error: Non-file 
>>> package-anchored link(s)
>>>     >
>>>     >     I think that the current behaviour is documented in WRE:
>>>     >
>>>     >     "...There are two other forms of optional argument specified as 
>>> \link[pkg]{foo} and
>>>     >     \link[pkg:bar]{foo} to link to the package pkg, to files foo.html 
>>> and bar.html respectively.
>>>     >     These are rarely needed, perhaps to refer to not-yet-installed 
>>> packages (but there the HTML
>>>     >     help system will resolve the link at run time) or in the normally 
>>> undesirable event that more
>>>     >     than one package offers help on a topic7 (in which case the 
>>> present package has precedence so
>>>     >     this is only needed to refer to other packages). They are 
>>> currently only used in HTML help
>>>     >     (and ignored for hyperlinks in LATEX conversions of help pages), 
>>> and link to the file rather
>>>     >     than the topic (since there is no way to know which topics are in 
>>> which files in an uninstalled
>>>     >     package) ...   Because they have been frequently misused, the 
>>> HTML help system looks for topic foo in package pkg
>>>     >     if it does not find file foo.html."
>>>     >
>>>     >     Unless I am missing something, it seems that it would be 
>>> relatively painless to reverse the logic of the current behaviour of the 
>>> help system,
>>>     >     i.e. to start looking first for the topic and then for a file.
>>>     >
>>>     >     Georgi Boshnakov
>>>     >
>>>     >     -----Original Message-----
>>>     >     From: R-package-devel <r-package-devel-boun...@r-project.org> On 
>>> Behalf Of Gábor Csárdi
>>>     >     Sent: 16 June 2020 13:44
>>>     >     To: Duncan Murdoch <murdoch.dun...@gmail.com>
>>>     >     Cc: List r-package-devel <r-package-devel@r-project.org>
>>>     >     Subject: Re: [R-pkg-devel] check cross-references error: Non-file 
>>> package-anchored link(s)
>>>     >
>>>     >     On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 5:30 PM Duncan Murdoch 
>>> <murdoch.dun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>     >     >
>>>     >     > On 15/06/2020 12:05 p.m., Martin Maechler wrote:
>>>     >     > >>>>>> Duncan Murdoch   on Sun, 14 Jun 2020 07:28:03 -0400 
>>> writes:
>>>     >     > >
>>>     >     > >      > I agree with almost everything you wrote, except one 
>>> thing:  this isn't
>>>     >     > >      > newly enforced, it has been enforced since the help 
>>> system began.  What
>>>     >     > >      > I think is new is that there are now tests for it.  
>>> Previously those
>>>     >     > >      > links just wouldn't work.
>>>     >     > >
>>>     >     > >      > Duncan Murdoch
>>>     >     > >
>>>     >     > > Yes, to all... including Duncan's agreement with Gábor.
>>>     >     > >
>>>     >     > > Also, Duncan M earlier did mention that he had wanted to
>>>     >     > > *change* the link-to-file behavior for these cases (when he 
>>> wrote
>>>     >     > > most of the Rd2html source code) but somehow did not get it.
>>>     >     >
>>>     >     > Actually, I don't think I pushed for this change at the time 
>>> (or at
>>>     >     > least I didn't push much).  I just wish now that I had, because 
>>> I
>>>     >     > think it will be harder to do it now than it would have been 
>>> then.
>>>     >     >
>>>     >     > Duncan
>>>     >
>>>     >     I am not entirely sure, but maybe just documenting the current 
>>> behaviour and undoing 78674 could work. With some tweaks? E.g.
>>>     >
>>>     >     * updating R-exts to say that \link[pkg:topic]{text} will link to 
>>> `topic.html` in `pkg` first (for historical reasons), and falls back to 
>>> searching for `topic` in `pkg` at render time.
>>>     >     * updating Rd2HTML to look for the topic and use it in the link, 
>>> instead of throwing a warning, in it cannot find `topic.html`
>>>     >     * removing the `R CMD check` warning for non-file links, that was 
>>> added in 78674 :)
>>>     >
>>>     >     Is there anything else?
>>>     >
>>>     >     Gabor
>>>     >
>>>     >     [...]
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