I was not aware that you can do a mid-drive conversion (I thought the frame 
had to be special designed to accept the drive-unit instead of a bottom 
bracket). How did you do it?
-Wes
On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 11:03:34 AM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Looks like you're good there, Stephen, 250W is pretty mellow. Yes it's the 
> torque that would concern me with a more powerful hub motor; no bad 
> experiences (I used 250W on an Appaloosa), I just try not to be too crazy 
> with slim fork blades not designed with a motor in mind. Most 
> front-hub-motor bikes I see are running really beefy forks. 
>
> My first build was a ridiculously powerful rear-hub Clem, Grant rode it! 
> Then I did a few with even more ridiculously powerful mid-drives, those 
> were tons of fun. But I'm out of the ebike game these days. Maybe in the 
> future I'll try one again. 
>
> Joe Bernard 
>
> On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 6:46:52 AM UTC-7 Stephen wrote:
>
>> Hey Joe,
>>
>> That would be because of too much torque on a weak fork I presume? I'd be 
>> curious to hear more about your experiences with eRivs, and is that a 
>> determination you've made based on a bad experience? Have you done both 
>> front and rear type motors? I have to admit I'm pretty clueless when it 
>> comes to the details of ebikes in general, but I hope that since this kit 
>> is intended to be universal it will be safe enough for the type of riding 
>> my father will be doing and that the company would be responsible enough to 
>> highlight potential incompatibilities. It does seem like eBikes are still a 
>> bit of a wild west of little to no regulation.. Unfortunately the kit 
>> website is pretty limited in describing its technical specifications (it is 
>> very much designed for non technical people) and I can't find a spec as to 
>> whether its a 250w or 500w motor, but it does list a 40nm torque. How does 
>> that speak to your experience?
>>
>> I didn't notice anything bad on my test ride yesterday, but I suppose 
>> I'll give it a longer ride today and see if I notice any dangerous fork 
>> flex...
>>
>> On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 10:02:46 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Looks fun but - as a fellow who's built a few eRivs - I gotta throw in a 
>>> warning here about wattage. If that's a 250W hub you're good, I would worry 
>>> about 500W on Riv's spindly forks. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 4:33:14 PM UTC-7 Stephen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thought I'd share my project of the day: electrifying this clem L for 
>>>> my Dad.
>>>>
>>>> A little backstory:
>>>>
>>>> My family and I all chipped in a few years ago to get my Dad a Clem 
>>>> complete in an effort to give him a fun and healthy exercise activity 
>>>> following a near death heart attack in 2020. Despite really liking the 
>>>> look 
>>>> and comfort of the bike, his level of fitness was really limiting the 
>>>> amount of time he could spend on it. He'd be wiped in under 30 minutes, 
>>>> and 
>>>> unfortunately living in the suburban south, safe and accessible riding is 
>>>> fairly limited and largely unexciting unless you're covering big miles out 
>>>> on country roads. Add to that the fact that his main riding partner, my 
>>>> mom, has been a long time road cyclist with a much higher level of 
>>>> fitness, 
>>>> they ended up getting him an ebike from rei. Its made a huge difference in 
>>>> how much he's able to ride and his willingness to ride, but he's still 
>>>> been 
>>>> partial towards the Clem. 
>>>>
>>>> So my folks ordered an ebike conversion kit, gosh, like a year ago and 
>>>> it finally arrived recently. Its a front wheel motor with a handlebar 
>>>> mounted battery pack, and supposedly a pretty simple install. However, for 
>>>> some reason the axle on the wheel was 10mm as opposed to the 9mm clem fork 
>>>> drop outs so I had to do a bit of filing (on the axle) to get it to fit. 
>>>> Took it for a spin and it really goes! Feels a little less 
>>>> jarring/unnatural than other ebikes I've tried. I'm curious to see how it 
>>>> holds up.
>>>>
>>>> Please excuse the messy cables in the pics, still got some neatening up 
>>>> to do. And for those curious, the kit is the swytch bike kit.
>>>>
>>>> [image: IMG_5909.jpg]
>>>>
>>>> [image: IMG_5910.jpg]
>>>>
>>>> [image: IMG_5911.jpg]
>>>>
>>>> [image: IMG_5912.jpg]
>>>>
>>>

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