I'm not sure I would agree that they "force indexing". I've used them on my Clem for awhile now and while its weird it works with no issues. At least I personally have not had issues and it sounds like Grant has been issue free with more miles than me.
I do agree that Riv's details do make it more confusing then it needs to be. Ignore the clicks would be a much better description. My tech even kept telling me how weird the index shifters were. I was like...they are friction not index and he was like...no those index. :) On Thursday, March 14, 2024 at 5:05:28 AM UTC-4 Garth wrote: > Additionally, if you're riding in the small/inner ring and smallest 2-3 > cogs, don't ! Even the middle isn't optimal with a 11t/12t/13t, but > without an outer ring, you have no other option. > > Yeah I do remember when those Sunrace came out the confusing description > of them, and it's still clear as mud on the Riv website. If I could feel > the mechanism I'd understand where they're coming from, but I'm not buying > any to find out ! They could have just said "the clicks are not be > associated with a given gear shift". Or was it the shifters even had > indentations in the mechanism, making the necessary minute adjustments > frustrating ? (for users like Joe or others who have used them ). > > On Thursday, March 14, 2024 at 4:42:10 AM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote: > >> Those SunRace shifters force indexing that doesn't line up with all the >> cogs. Technically you can trim them to work as a friction shifter but it'll >> drive you crazy, you need Silver thumbies. >> >> On Wednesday, March 13, 2024 at 8:40:52 PM UTC-7 Vincent Tamer wrote: >> >>> I have an on going issue with my friction shifting setup on my 2016 >>> complete Clem. >>> >>> I believe this will be my third cassette replacement now. Each time the >>> two smallest cogs are damaged/stripped for some reason, so that when I >>> pedal there is some crunching & ghost shifting. I cannot pedal with full >>> force on the first two gears. >>> >>> I’ve had issues with this since day one and I have a feeling it is due >>> to the 2016 complete clem’s shifting setup even though I’ve had it adjusted >>> and have explained to two different bike technicians. >>> >>> The shifter setup is odd, Riv even commented on how it was a little >>> strange in the Clem intro Pdf that was floating around for the longest time >>> (cannot find it now). I'm hoping someone knows what I'm talking about! >>> >>> These suntour shifters are set up in a reverse position and that they >>> have some kind of ratcheting mech in them. The clicks don’t always coincide >>> with a shift and maybe that has created some bad friction shifting form on >>> my part. Outside of that I’m at a loss for why I am having issues with >>> stripped cogs. >>> >>> I’m considering switching to an indexed set up even though I don’t want >>> to but before I do, does any one have any wisdom they can shed on this >>> situation? Thank you! >>> >>> Pics are attached, of the whole bike (for fun) and of the shifter. I'll >>> grab some shots of the gears as well when I can.[image: >>> DSCF7718_sml.jpg][image: shifter.jpg] >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/1fbc6c8c-450d-4101-84fa-b67f2ce3aec9n%40googlegroups.com.
