If I respond using "verb" as a verb, do you really think I'm seriously criticizing you about using "vendor" as a verb? You're telling me to get a life? Get a sense of humor.
On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 3:45:07 PM UTC-8 Dima Pasechnik wrote: > I have not invented the verb "to vendor", I merely picked it up from > Python docs and PEPs, e.g. > https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0518/#configparser > (this one was written by native English speakers, I think) > > You seem to prefer to pick on my supposedly broken English, rather than > read Python docs, as it's much less fun. > > Get a life. > > > > On Tue, 14 Nov 2023, 23:19 John H Palmieri, <jhpalm...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Not all Americans like to verb things so profligately. >> >> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 1:15:07 PM UTC-8 Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, 14 Nov 2023, 20:39 Matthias Koeppe, <matthia...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 11:39:52 AM UTC-8 Dima Pasechnik wrote: >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 7:22 PM Marc Culler <marc....@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 11:58 AM Dima Pasechnik <dim...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >> I imagine it might be an artifact of the design of Sage on Mac app >>>> >> Marc is releasing: >>>> >> vendor everything. >>>> > >>>> > Vendor is a noun, not a verb. >>>> >>>> It's a curse, to be precise, and it slows down the project a lot. >>>> We have to worry about over 400 packages!!! >>>> Bloody hell, pardon my UK French, we have more interesting problems to >>>> work on... >>>> >>>> >>>> FWIW, I consider Marc's effort to provide a self-contained macOS app of >>>> Sage to be very valuable for the project. >>>> >>>> Dima is indeed using the word "vendor" incorrectly. I'm not concerned >>>> about the grammar; I use it as a verb, too, in this specific context. >>>> For source code, "vendoring" (= including a copy of the source code of >>>> a dependency, modified or not, in the source code) is problematic for >>>> various well known reasons. >>>> But to accuse a binary distribution of "vendoring" is simply >>>> meaningless. A binary distribution is made for the benefit of users. >>>> >>> >>> I am not accusing Marc of vendoring, I am saying that him asking to >>> supply essentially all the components of Sage in source form is asking too >>> much, as it saddles us with extremely heavy maintenance task, for reasons >>> questionable. >>> >>> Suppose we remove gmp from the list of packages we vendor (yes, "to >>> vendor", i.e. "to perform vendoring", may be a verb, as we see here. As >>> Americans make verbs out of everything, I find myself being gaslighted here >>> by one of them.) >>> >>> What then, will it make the task of making a macOS Sage app impossible, >>> or much harder, all of a sudden? >>> I have trouble believing this. >>> >>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "sage-devel" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to sage-devel+...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/fa119cf9-49bc-4b16-b6af-b1b6fd6584aen%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/fa119cf9-49bc-4b16-b6af-b1b6fd6584aen%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "sage-devel" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to sage-devel+...@googlegroups.com. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/943e37ef-0a11-4331-9e20-52141ccdddc7n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/943e37ef-0a11-4331-9e20-52141ccdddc7n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/25a17216-502e-4c4d-b70d-73e6e028881cn%40googlegroups.com.
