On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 5:28:25 AM UTC+2, John H Palmieri wrote:
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> On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 2:09:17 PM UTC-7, François Bissey wrote:
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>> > On 4/04/2018, at 02:34, John H Palmieri <jhpalm...@gmail.com> wrote: 
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>> > On Monday, April 2, 2018 at 9:25:56 PM UTC-7, François Bissey wrote: 
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>> > > On 2/04/2018, at 16:27, John H Palmieri <jhpalm...@gmail.com> wrote: 
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>> > > On Sunday, April 1, 2018 at 1:16:57 PM UTC-7, François Bissey wrote: 
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>> > > > On 2/04/2018, at 03:48, John H Palmieri <jhpalm...@gmail.com> 
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>> > > > On Sunday, April 1, 2018 at 2:06:37 AM UTC-7, Volker Braun wrote: 
>> > > > On Sunday, April 1, 2018 at 9:01:17 AM UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik wrote: 
>> > > > - when I do an incremental upgrade, I do not see these failures. 
>> > > > - when I do 'make distclean; make ptestlong', I see them (with 
>> > > > 8.2.beta8 or later; I haven't checked earlier versions). 
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>> > > >  Is it the other way round? Surely it should work with  "make 
>> distclean; make ptestlong"? 
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>> > > > It is not the other way around: failures when building from 
>> scratch, no failures when upgrading. 
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>> > > I (painfully) checked on my old laptop and I get this stuff when 
>> > > building from scratch too. So we have some kind of new 
>> mis-compilation 
>> > > with clang. 
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>> > > François 
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>> > > You made a guess in email that it was Singular. Suggestions for how 
>> to test this? 
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>> > Based on the libraries apparently involved. But looking at the chain of 
>> > calls, i would be more inlined to suspect something in sage itself. 
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>> > in the glue to singular or in the coercion framework. 
>> > But that’s speculative, I have no real ideas. Does anyone know if that 
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>> > 8.1 as well? If not, we may be able to bisect something. 
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>> > François 
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>> > I just tried with 8.1, and all tests pass. That builds with gcc, not 
>> clang, so it's a big difference. 
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>> Forgot about that! So the earliest we can test is 8.2.beta5. 
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>> François 
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> 8.2.beta5 doesn't build without #24704 ("ppl build fails with 
> clang-5.0"), in case that provides any clues. WIth #24704, I get the same 
> doctest errors.
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Oh, clang 5.0 is tricky. I did have trouble with it on #22679 (porting to 
FreeBSD), this is by the way how the patch from #24704 arose.
 

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