Thanks for sharing the logs for these installation problems; this is 
valuable information. 
I agree that there seems to be something wrong with the installation of 
setuptools in this environment. The command "conda list" could provide 
additional helpful information.
You could try if "make setuptools_wheel-no-deps" improves the situation.

There's also an open PR https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/35593 with 
fixes for the conda environment, which may be worth trying.

On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 6:15:32 PM UTC-7 furutaka....@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi...
>
> The only thing I can do is to test the build (and use) of the software, 
> and therefore I do so...
> (useless?)
>
> The build of the release on Fedora 38 (x86_64).
>
> 1. With system packages, the build finished w/o any problem.
>
> 2. The build by following the procedure described in
>
> https://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/installation/conda.html#using-conda-to-provide-system-packages-for-the-sage-distribution
> (with environment-optional.yml in place of environment.yml) stopped with 
> the following errors while doing `make doc-clean doc-uninstall && make 
> -j10`:
>
>>   The following package(s) may have failed to build (not necessarily
>> during this run of 'make all-start'):
>>
>> * package:         pythran-0.14.0
>>   last build time: Sep 28 19:36
>>   log file:       
>>  /home/furutaka/work/sage/sage-10.2.beta5-condaSys/logs/pkgs/p
>> ythran-0.14.0.log
>>   build directory: 
>> /home/furutaka/mambaforge/envs/sage-build/var/tmp/sage/build/
>> pythran-0.14.0
>>
>> * package:         fastjsonschema-2.18.0
>>   last build time: Sep 28 19:36
>>   log file:       
>>  
>> /home/furutaka/work/sage/sage-10.2.beta5-condaSys/logs/pkgs/fastjsonschema-2.18.0.log
>>   build directory: 
>> /home/furutaka/mambaforge/envs/sage-build/var/tmp/sage/build/fastjsonschema-2.18.0
>>
>> * package:         sage_conf-10.2.beta5
>>   last build time: Sep 28 19:36
>>   log file:       
>>  
>> /home/furutaka/work/sage/sage-10.2.beta5-condaSys/logs/pkgs/sage_conf-10.2.beta5.log
>>
>>
> The former two seemed to be caused because of the lack of setuptools???
>
> Kazuyoshi
>
> 2023年9月28日(木) 7:56 Volker Braun <vbrau...@gmail.com>:
>
>> As always, you can get the latest beta version from the "develop" git 
>> branch. Alternatively, the self-contained source tarball is at 
>> http://www.sagemath.org/download-latest.html
>>
>>
>> 1cf0c13e527 (tag: 10.2.beta5, github/develop) Updated SageMath version to 
>> 10.2.beta5
>> b01856309bc gh-36345: `ecm`: Work around build failure with Xcode 15
>> 2c714728fd0 gh-36339: fix expect interface for newer ptyprocess
>> bb04839a5d5 gh-36338: CI: Merge open blocker PRs in all CI workflows + 
>> other improvements
>> a9cb852973a gh-36336: add some class roles for linking Errors in doc
>> 247ea886f0e gh-36335: using more itertools.product
>> f4dc2bc1c8e gh-36330: src/sage/repl/load.py: replace tmp_dir()
>> f6a9058bca4 gh-36327: fix the linter once more
>> 496fb917960 gh-36326: more fixes for E228 and E225 in combinat and some 
>> other folders
>> ccf337e8443 gh-36323: src/sage/combinat/words/words.py: replace tmp_dir()
>> feed3d41ef9 gh-36319: build/pkgs/setuptools_scm_git_archive: Remove 
>> (obsolete)
>> 22a32e79929 gh-36316: build/pkgs/lrcalc_python: add standard python 
>> spkg-configure.m4
>> 034f1f643b7 gh-36299: Generic implementation of fitting ideal
>> c325311ba47 gh-36284: improve checks
>> 0b5fc8e97a0 gh-36276: Yet more spkg_configure for standard python packages
>> ed478e76787 gh-36275: `sage.graphs.generic_graph`: some care with return 
>> ... else statements
>> 602b57114df gh-36270: full pep8 for modular/hecke
>> 4f8a8af331f gh-36267: Change `ipympl`/`pkgconfig`/`widgetsnbextension` to 
>> wheel packages, drop build deps
>> 1af7f8f2b6b gh-36234: Use patchelf from the system
>> ce855de61cb gh-36166: Additions to the bigraded Betti number methods
>> 05d7d1dceeb gh-36110: Update Cython to 3.0.2
>> 5cef467b357 gh-35866: CI build.yml, doc-build.yml: Use output groups
>> 2829cf2182f gh-35537: Fix Sphinx markup in some file
>> 4d3e807ba54 (tag: 10.2.beta4) Updated SageMath version to 10.2.beta4
>>
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