Thanks for the help, I did some more testing and hunting around but still no 
success.  I have some more info and questions below.

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--------- Original Message ---------

DATE: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 22:58:40
From: abel deuring <adeur...@gmx.net>
To: barton_bo...@eudoramail.com
Cc: sane-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org

>Barton Bosch schrieb:
>> I am using  a new Planet CCRMA installation of Red Hat 
>> 8.0 and I am trying to get my scanner up and running, but sane is not 
>> recognizing it.   I've never had the all of the bugs ironed out of this set 
>> up, but on a 
>> prior installation of a vanilla distribution of Red Hat 8.0 I did have this 
>> scanner installed, recognized by sane, and managed to scan one document, so 
>> I know that it is possible for this hardware to function under Linux.  
>
>[...]
>
>> scsi1 : Future Domain 16-bit SCSI Driver Version 5.50
>>   Vendor: UMAX      Model: Vista-S6E         Rev: V1.6
>>   Type:   Scanner                            ANSI SCSI revision: 02
>
>the SCSI system detects the scanner.
>

<snip> 

>> ohci1394: pci_module_init failed
>
>That's related to Firewire stuff; it probably does affects ypur scanner 
>problem.

I'm sorry, could you clarify your meaning here?  1394 is the tip off that it is 
firewire related, but are you saying that this module failure does or does not 
affect my scanner situation?  I was assuming that it would not but was puzzled 
that it popped up at all, seeing as how there is no firewire port on my 
computer.

>> Checking further, I found that /dev/scanner was a link to /dev/sgb, and 
>> /dev/sgb was  a link to /sg1 (not /dev/sg1).  I tried changing /dev/sgb into 
>> a 
>symlink to /dev/sg1, but xsane still pops up a dialog box with "xsane: 
>no devices available".
>
>If /dev/sgb pointed to /sg1, that was indeed an error.
>
>> 
>> All the other /dev/sg* files had permissions of 660 but my original /dev/sg1 
>> had permissions of 600, which I changed to 660.  
>
>Don't forget to look, which group is set for /dev/sg1. Generally, 
>ordinary users don't belong to the group assigned to SG device files.

The permission was barton (my user account name) and root (as the group owner). 
 All of the other /sg* files had permissions of root(for user) and disk (as 
group).  The barton account is not a member of the root group.  Would this 
cause the scanner to not be found by xsane?  I'll test this tomorrow.

<snip>

>A possible reason is that the sg module is not loaded. Try a "modprobe sg"

Ok, I'll give that a shot tomorrow as well.

Here are the new questions and the additional background info.

This is a scanner that I bought at a thrift store, so I do not know what kind 
of shape it is in.  I did manage to scan one document on my previous Red Hat 
installation right after I got the scanner.  As I remember, without using a 
terminator, and with the scsi id switch set to 7, I plugged it into the SCSI 
card and booted the system -- the scsi host adapter card recognized 7 instances 
of the scanner, and I configured them all in Kudzu, the Red Hat 
autoconfiguration lizard.  

I opened xsane from the start menu and the scanner was recognized without a 
problem.  I scanned a handwritten document as a test, and it was far too light, 
basically illegible.  I have never done any scanning before and it was my first 
time using xsane, so I started experimenting with the settings, etc., and tried 
to do another scan, but xsane crashed on me, or otherwise crapped out.  When I 
tried to restart it, the scanner was no longer recognized by xsane. 

BTW, today I tested it with the scsi id settings of 1 and 7, and used what I 
hope is a terminator, but it is unlableled and is also a used thrift store 
find, and may be some sort of other male D 25 connector scsi terminator 
look-alike piece of hardware for all I know.  I don't have any way of testing 
it other than on this scanner...  I did test the set up without the terminator 
in question, but that didn't work either.

At the time I assumed that I had tweaked the settings in some way and messed 
things up.  I started in to reading the sane web site docs more thoroughly, and 
saw that there was a long section on setting up and configuring the software.  
Not having the time to sit down and spend a day or two putting my scanner on a 
firm foundation and knowing that it basically worked, I put it aside until 
now... 

Two possibilities occur to me:  1) Is it possible that I did something while 
experimenting with the various settings in xsane that damaged the scanner 
somehow so that it is no longer recognized?  E.g., tripped something in the 
firmware or did something else that is causing the problem?;  and, 2)  Maybe 
the thing just broke... I got it home from the store and it had one or two 
scans left in it and then some circuit just died.

This afternoon I tried to get it up and running under Windows 98, and with 
various hassles finding driver files on the net and getting it configured under 
W98 --which I eventually managed to do.  But I find the same situation with a 
different W98.  

The scsi host adapter sees the scanner with the correct vendor label, I have it 
configured so that it is "functioning properly" and there are no resource 
conflicts under the hardware manager, but when I call up the test utility or 
the Vista Scan interface, they search for UMAX scanners and come up empty.  
This is why I suspect firmware or hardware problems.  

Under both Linux and W98 the scanner poweres up, does its little self test, is 
recognized by the host adapter and the OS, but when it comes to doing a scan, 
the scanning applications don't see any scanner.  

Does anyone recognize these symptoms or have any helpful suggestions or (better 
still) solutions? 


Thanks,

Barton


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