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Since 2003-09-06, the SANE Project has been kindly hosted on Debian's Alioth. The Debian project has deprecated[1] this service and intends to discontinue[*] it when Debian Wheezy becomes EOL. While that seems to be slated[2] for 2018-05-31, the Alioth wiki page's News[3] section states 2018-05-01 for Alioth itself and 2018-02-01 for mailing lists. [*]: It is not quite clear what that exactly entails but at best the service will become read-only. A Debian-backed GitLab-based replacement has been announced[4] in beta and it looks like there may be a temporary continuation of the mailing lists[5] but *nothing* will be migrated automatically. Everything has to be done explicitly. That is, if we don't act, the SANE Project will no longer be able to: - communicate via the mailing lists - push commits to its official git repositories - update the bug and feature requests trackers - update its website So we have to move some place else for our project hosting but where? The Debian-backed GitLab-based replacement[6] is one option. Two others are GitLab.com[7] and GitHub.com[8]. None of these provides support for mailing lists so we need something else for that. Migrating to Debian's temporary continuation is one option. Any other suggestions? As for the website, all three (will) have support for *static* webpages. The trackers are covered by the issue systems of all three. [1]: https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth#Deprecation_of_Alioth [2]: https://wiki.debian.org/LTS [3]: https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth#News [4]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2017/12/msg00003.html [5]: https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth/MailingListContinuation [6]: https://salsa.debian.org [7]: https://gitlab.com [8]: https://github.com You may remember that I set up an *unofficial* SANE Project group[9] on GitLab.com to play around with GitLab CI that mirrors the project's git repositories on Alioth. We could use that. I have also created a stub on GitHub.com[10] and two on Debian's GitLab[11][12] (which enforces a *-team naming convention for groups :-() to reserve the names. [9]: https://gitlab.com/sane-project [10]: https://github.com/sane-project [11]: https://salsa.debian.org/sane-team [12]: https://salsa.debian.org/sane-project-team I am personally in favour of using something we could in principle run ourselves. That would rule out GitHub.com. Also, it is not clear yet when website hosting becomes possible or to what extent Debian's GitLab instance will provide CI runners (needed to publish the website), so *my* preference is GitLab.com (steering clear of its enterprise-only functionality). What are your preferences? Feel free to mention other options. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2 FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Software https://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation https://my.fsf.org/join -- sane-devel mailing list: sane-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sane-devel Unsubscribe: Send mail with subject "unsubscribe your_password" to sane-devel-requ...@lists.alioth.debian.org