Re: Server Side Public License (SSPL) v1
This You? > All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood. http://ssimo.org/ / lol On 21/01/2021 19:44, Simo Sorce wrote: > Wow resurrecting a 2019 thread ? > > A thread where the exact same question was asked also aggresively *and* > responded to by Ben Cotton ... > > Troll much ? ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Server Side Public License (SSPL) v1
>>> ...the SSPL is intentionally crafted to be aggressively discriminatory >>> towards a specific class of users. >>> >>> Who are they? >>> >>> Can you identify this class of users please? > You can find the details quite easily using google if you so desire. wow... are you really too embarrassed to admit it is basically Amazon and other cloud-based monsters? good... you ought to be - lol... https://www.elastic.co/blog/license-change-clarification ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Server Side Public License (SSPL) v1
> Wow resurrecting a 2019 thread ? No, I am looking at something that was clearly aborted... when I visited this thread there were ZERO comments > A thread where the exact same question was asked also aggresively *and* responded to by Ben Cotton ... It's not here. I'll poke around to find out what you are on about tho' > Troll much ? Nope. You? ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Server Side Public License (SSPL) v1
On Thu, 2021-01-21 at 13:16 +, Mat K. Witts wrote: > > ...the SSPL is intentionally crafted to be aggressively discriminatory > towards a specific class of users. > > Who are they? > > Can you identify this class of users please? Wow resurrecting a 2019 thread ? A thread where the exact same question was asked also aggresively *and* responded to by Ben Cotton ... Troll much ? -- Simo Sorce RHEL Crypto Team Red Hat, Inc ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Server Side Public License (SSPL) v1
On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 7:31 PM Mat K. Witts wrote: > > > ...the SSPL is intentionally crafted to be aggressively discriminatory > towards a specific class of users. > > Who are they? > > Can you identify this class of users please? You can find the details quite easily using google if you so desire. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Server Side Public License (SSPL) v1
> ...the SSPL is intentionally crafted to be aggressively discriminatory towards a specific class of users. Who are they? Can you identify this class of users please? Thanks. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Server Side Public License (SSPL) v1
John, You can see the discussion on the legal mailing list's archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/le...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/US4PKGDMBQRDYGIYVM2ETARJ5ZPU7TNX/#US4PKGDMBQRDYGIYVM2ETARJ5ZPU7TNX If you have further questions, le...@lists.fedoraproject.org is the right forum. -- Ben Cotton Fedora Program Manager TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: Server Side Public License (SSPL) v1
How exactly is SSPLv1 "aggressively discriminatory towards people of a specific class"? How exactly did you determine that the purpose was to spread FUD, and what do you describe as "commercial users"? -- John M. Harris, Jr. Splentity https://splentity.com/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Server Side Public License (SSPL) v1
After review, Fedora has determined that the Server Side Public License v1 (SSPL) is not a Free Software License. It is the belief of Fedora that the SSPL is intentionally crafted to be aggressively discriminatory towards a specific class of users. Additionally, it seems clear that the intent of the license author is to cause Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt towards commercial users of software under that license. To consider the SSPL to be "Free" or "Open Source" causes that shadow to be cast across all other licenses in the FOSS ecosystem, even though none of them carry that risk. It is also worth nothing that while there is a draft for a "v2" of the SSPL: A) It is not final. B) It is not in use anywhere at this time (as far as we know). C) The intent of the v2 draft text is not changed from the v1 license currently in use. We have updated our "Bad License" list to include SSPLv1. No software under that license may be included in Fedora (including EPEL and COPRs). Thanks, Tom Callaway Fedora Legal ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
