Re: Congratulations for F24ß

[Sérgio Basto]

yeah ß is not an β  
alt gr + s writes ß ( but this is not an beta ) 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9F#Graphically_similar_letters

However, the reverse substitution of using German "ß" as a surrogate
for Greek "β" once was common when describing beta test versions of
application programs for older operating systems

not the case (older operating systems) , but I don't know type one beta
character 

On Ter, 2016-05-10 at 22:47 +0100, Pawel Bogucki wrote:
> Probably because it looks similar to β when looking at keyboard map
> :-)
> On 10 May 2016 9:21 p.m., "Gordon Messmer" 
> wrote:
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9F
> > 
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Re: Congratulations for F24ß

[Pawel Bogucki]

Probably because it looks similar to β when looking at keyboard map :-)
On 10 May 2016 9:21 p.m., "Gordon Messmer"  wrote:

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9F
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Fedora 24 updates-testing report

[updates]

The following Fedora 24 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
  34  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-2e339a7779   
optipng-0.7.6-1.fc24
  12  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-f3b40fcbc3   
jenkins-mailer-plugin-1.17-1.fc24 jenkins-credentials-plugin-1.27-1.fc24 
jenkins-script-security-plugin-1.18.1-1.fc24 jenkins-junit-plugin-1.12-1.fc24 
jenkins-1.651.1-1.fc24 stapler-1.242-1.fc24 tiger-types-2.2-1.fc24 
owasp-java-html-sanitizer-20160422.1-1.fc24 jenkins-remoting-2.57-1.fc24
   6  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-4a4d504509   
obs-signd-2.2.1-8.fc24
   3  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-cfa7b58c7e   
owncloud-8.2.4-1.fc24
   3  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-ad6005ba92   
imlib2-1.4.9-1.fc24
   1  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-f36c5935e5   
libdwarf-20160507-1.fc24
   0  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-c36ab3e363   
nodejs-4.4.4-1.fc24
   0  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-b321728d74   
glibc-2.23.1-6.fc24
   0  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-c25125c408   
moodle-3.0.4-1.fc24
   0  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-46240c1a39   
pgpdump-0.31-1.fc24
   0  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-81ee229332   
xen-4.6.1-7.fc24
   0  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-e8652e3efb   
cacti-0.8.8h-1.fc24


The following Fedora 24 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:
 Age URL
  21  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-5e070dcb15   
lorax-24.18-1.fc24
  10  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-2f1d9fb2cf   
lxsession-0.5.2-9.fc24
   4  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-16c46e44e1   
livecd-tools-23.3-1.fc24
   3  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-ad6005ba92   
imlib2-1.4.9-1.fc24
   0  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-7b7b2316c5   
cheese-3.20.2-1.fc24
   0  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-04f51f7bac   
kde-baseapps-16.04.1-1.fc24 kde-runtime-16.04.1-1.fc24 kdelibs-4.14.20-1.fc24
   0  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-b321728d74   
glibc-2.23.1-6.fc24
   0  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-fc8d3f9515   
kf5-knotifications-5.21.0-3.fc24 kf5-knotifyconfig-5.21.0-2.fc24 
phonon-4.9.0-3.fc24


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 24 updates-testing

389-ds-base-1.3.5.3-1.fc24
GeoIP-GeoLite-data-2016.05-1.fc24
ansible-inventory-grapher-2.1.0-2.fc24
ansible-lint-2.6.2-1.fc24
atril-1.14.0-3.fc24
baloo-widgets-16.04.1-1.fc24
btrfs-progs-4.5.2-1.fc24
cacti-0.8.8h-1.fc24
cheese-3.20.2-1.fc24
corebird-1.2-1.fc24
cppformat-2.1.1-1.fc24
cqrlog-2.0.1-1.fc24
dolphin-16.04.1-1.fc24
dolphin-plugins-16.04.1-1.fc24
emacs-common-ess-16.04-1.fc24
enki-16.04.0-2.fc24
enki-16.04.0-3.fc24
erlang-eflame-0-0.1.gita085181.fc24
erlang-kvc-1.7.0-1.fc24
erlang-parse_trans-2.9.2-1.fc24
erlang-setup-1.7-1.fc24
fedora-motd-0.1.3-1.fc24
filezilla-3.17.0.1-1.fc24
fllog-1.2.3-1.fc24
geomorph-0.62-1.fc24
glibc-2.23.1-6.fc24
gnome-devel-docs-3.20.2-1.fc24
gssproxy-0.5.0-4.fc24
gtkd-3.2.2-2.fc24
hadoop-2.4.1-16.fc24
help2man-1.47.4-1.fc24
ipsilon-1.2.0-3.fc24
jovie-16.04.1-1.fc24
kaccessible-16.04.1-1.fc24
kate-16.04.1-1.fc24
kde-baseapps-16.04.1-1.fc24
kde-l10n-16.04.1-1.fc24
kde-runtime-16.04.1-1.fc24
kdelibs-4.14.20-1.fc24
kf5-knotifications-5.21.0-3.fc24
kf5-knotifyconfig-5.21.0-2.fc24
khelpcenter-16.04.1-1.fc24
kmag-16.04.1-1.fc24
kmousetool-16.04.1-1.fc24
kmouth-16.04.1-1.fc24
konsole5-16.04.1-1.fc24
lbdb-0.41-1.fc24
libinput-1.3.0-1.fc24
marisa-0.2.4-15.fc24
milter-greylist-4.6-1.fc24
mingw-freetype-2.6.3-1.fc24
mingw-gtk2-2.24.30-1.fc24
mongodb-3.2.6-1.fc24
moodle-3.0.4-1.fc24
nodejs-4.4.4-1.fc24
nodejs-process-nextick-args-1.0.7-1.fc24
nudoku-0.2.4-2.fc24
perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-2.76-1.fc24
perl-DateTime-Format-Strptime-1.68-1.fc24
perl-Dumbbench-0.10-3.fc24
perl-IPC-SysV-2.07-1.fc24
perl-Module-CoreList-5.20160507-1.fc24
perl-Params-Validate-1.24-1.fc24
perl-RPC-XML-0.80-1.fc24
pgpdump-0.31-1.fc24
phonon-4.9.0-3.fc24
pidgin-2.10.12-3.fc24
pngquant-2.7.0-1.fc24
postgresql-pgpool-II-3.5.2-1.fc24
python-aodhclient-0.4.0-2.fc24
python-docker-squash-1.0.0-0.5.rc4.fc24
python-hghooks-0.7.0-2.fc24
python-parse_type-0.3.4-10.fc24
python-pysocks-1.5.6-3.fc24
python-qutepart-3.0.0-1.fc24
python-requests-toolbelt-0.6.1-1.fc24
python-waitress-0.9.0-1.fc24
qemu-2.6.0-0.2.rc5.fc24
rubygem-github-linguist-4.8.5-1.fc24
setroubleshoot-3.3.6-1.fc24
setroubleshoot-plugins-3.3.4-1.fc24
spectrwm-3.0.1-5.fc24
vinagre-3.20.2-1.fc24

Re: Congratulations for F24ß

[Gordon Messmer]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9F

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Fedora 22 updates-testing report

[updates]

The following Fedora 22 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
 397  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-5878   
echoping-6.1-0.beta.r434svn.1.fc22
 346  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-9185   
ceph-deploy-1.5.25-1.fc22
 278  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-12781   
python-kdcproxy-0.3.2-1.fc22
 233  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-16239   
nagios-4.0.8-1.fc22
 221  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-2d37e7dacf   
openstack-swift-2.2.0-6.fc22
 190  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-9039c25f1d   
miniupnpc-1.9-6.fc22
 173  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-7dfbe09bb4   
libpng-1.6.16-4.fc22
 173  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-6c07ab1fa6   
libpng-1.6.16-5.fc22
 154  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-3a5cebb105   
ImageMagick-6.9.2.7-1.fc22
 140  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-b9e4c97ff1   
sos-3.2-2.fc22
 114  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-f683150aa0   
thttpd-2.25b-37.fc22
  90  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-560802e52b   
xdelta-3.0.7-7.fc22
  79  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-24d134e494   
mingw-nsis-2.50-1.fc22
  66  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-3cbe9ad765   
python-pygments-2.1.3-1.fc22
  27  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-a028331ebc   
poppler-0.30.0-4.fc22
  16  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-1aaf308de4   
community-mysql-5.6.30-1.fc22
  14  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-927aade89c   
rpm-4.12.0.1-17.fc22
  11  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-e205218629   
php-5.6.21-1.fc22
  11  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-7d6cbcadca   
gd-2.1.1-3.fc22
   8  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-fe0d8f126a   
botan-1.10.13-1.fc22
   7  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-3e64b32a91   
dhcp-4.3.2-8.fc22
   3  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-377b1a015c   
owncloud-8.2.4-1.fc22
   3  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-d708261ce2   
jackson-dataformat-xml-2.5.0-3.fc22
   3  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-b4212484d5   
imlib2-1.4.9-1.fc22
   3  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-d049ad1118   
ioprocess-0.15.1-1.fc22
   0  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-f2a1389f3e   
pgpdump-0.31-1.fc22
   0  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-a159c484e4   
kernel-4.4.9-200.fc22
   0  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-3f597b76b8   
xen-4.5.3-3.fc22
   0  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-01198b9f9d   
cacti-0.8.8h-1.fc22


The following Fedora 22 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:
 Age URL
 272  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-13210   
yum-3.4.3-508.fc22
 190  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-2123de044f   
libgphoto2-2.5.8-1.fc22
 173  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-6c07ab1fa6   
libpng-1.6.16-5.fc22
 173  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-7dfbe09bb4   
libpng-1.6.16-4.fc22
  96  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-d3fce30d64   
mobile-broadband-provider-info-1.20151214-1.fc22
  67  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-4d5434d82f   
parted-3.2-16.fc22
  55  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-d4e6e32c1c   
upower-0.99.3-2.fc22
  27  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-a028331ebc   
poppler-0.30.0-4.fc22
  24  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-027faabac4   
libreport-2.6.4-2.fc22 abrt-2.6.1-11.fc22
  22  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-af1f30412b   
pygtk2-2.24.0-14.fc22
  18  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-83b47a28ce   
wavpack-4.80.0-1.fc22
  18  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-41df7ccbc8   
lldpad-1.0.1-4.git036e314.fc22
  14  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-927aade89c   
rpm-4.12.0.1-17.fc22
  11  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-7d6cbcadca   
gd-2.1.1-3.fc22
  10  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-cc848e483a   
xulrunner-44.0-6.fc22
   7  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-3e64b32a91   
dhcp-4.3.2-8.fc22
   7  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-e99389f35d   
openssh-6.9p1-12.fc22
   6  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-828f77de70   
samba-4.2.12-0.fc22
   3  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-b4212484d5   
imlib2-1.4.9-1.fc22
   0  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-a159c484e4   
kernel-4.4.9-200.fc22


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 22 updates-testing

R-multcomp-1.4.5-2.fc22
ansible-inventory-grapher-2.1.0-2.fc22
atril-1.12.2-3.fc22
cacti-0.8.8h-1.fc22

Fedora 23 updates-testing report

[updates]

The following Fedora 23 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
 233  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-16240   
nagios-4.0.8-1.fc23
 190  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-81ded368fe   
miniupnpc-1.9-6.fc23
 163  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-27392b3324   
jbig2dec-0.12-2.fc23
 114  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-dd52a54fa1   
python-pymongo-3.0.3-1.fc23
 114  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-06a7c972e8   
thttpd-2.25b-37.fc23
  79  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-637618fcd4   
mingw-nsis-2.50-1.fc23
  34  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-b8f91621c7   
optipng-0.7.6-1.fc23
  16  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-7c48036d73   
community-mysql-5.6.30-1.fc23
   8  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-f2aae0dbc5   
botan-1.10.13-1.fc23
   5  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-78ad11154f   
ocaml-4.02.2-5.fc23
   3  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-6f479decc6   
owncloud-8.2.4-1.fc23
   3  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-7d93e6   
kernel-4.4.9-300.fc23
   3  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-f2e2b178ea   
jackson-dataformat-xml-2.5.0-3.fc23
   3  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-ff070e8faa   
imlib2-1.4.9-1.fc23
   3  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-609627f8f5   
ioprocess-0.15.1-1.fc23
   0  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-e024b3e02b   
subversion-1.9.4-1.fc23
   0  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-286bacdbfb   
moodle-2.9.6-1.fc23
   0  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-c9d560e23a   
pgpdump-0.31-1.fc23
   0  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-f1c21e3c3c   
xen-4.5.3-3.fc23
   0  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-879977eea0   
cacti-0.8.8h-1.fc23


The following Fedora 23 Critical Path updates have yet to be approved:
 Age URL
  20  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-88778482ea   
lorax-23.21-1.fc23
  10  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-0a2ca2016e   
xulrunner-44.0-6.fc23
   9  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-afa56613ca   
lxsession-0.5.2-9.fc23
   6  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-035c5cc546   
taglib-1.11-1.fc23
   3  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-66b78d4812   
pulseaudio-7.1-1.fc23.1
   3  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-ff070e8faa   
imlib2-1.4.9-1.fc23
   3  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-7d93e6   
kernel-4.4.9-300.fc23
   3  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-b23268e0fc   
xdg-utils-1.1.1-4.fc23
   0  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-69054084ad   
kde-baseapps-16.04.1-1.fc23 kde-runtime-16.04.1-1.fc23 kdelibs-4.14.20-1.fc23
   0  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-b785febb27   
kf5-knotifications-5.21.0-3.fc23 kf5-knotifyconfig-5.21.0-2.fc23 
phonon-4.9.0-3.fc23


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora 23 updates-testing

R-multcomp-1.4.5-2.fc23
ansible-inventory-grapher-2.1.0-2.fc23
ansible-lint-2.6.2-1.fc23
atril-1.12.2-3.fc23
cacti-0.8.8h-1.fc23
check_postgres-2.22.0-1.fc23
cinnamon-3.0.1-1.fc23
cinnamon-control-center-3.0.0-1.fc23
cinnamon-desktop-3.0.0-2.fc23
cinnamon-menus-3.0.0-1.fc23
cinnamon-screensaver-3.0.0-1.fc23
cinnamon-session-3.0.0-1.fc23
cinnamon-settings-daemon-3.0.0-3.fc23
cinnamon-translations-3.0.0-1.fc23
cjs-3.0.0-1.fc23
corebird-1.2-1.fc23
emacs-common-ess-16.04-1.fc23
fllog-1.2.3-1.fc23
geomorph-0.62-1.fc23
help2man-1.47.4-1.fc23
ipsilon-1.2.0-4.fc23
kde-baseapps-16.04.1-1.fc23
kde-runtime-16.04.1-1.fc23
kdelibs-4.14.20-1.fc23
kf5-knotifications-5.21.0-3.fc23
kf5-knotifyconfig-5.21.0-2.fc23
knot-2.2.0-2.fc23
lbdb-0.41-1.fc23
marisa-0.2.4-15.fc23
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Re: F24 - gnome3 - hidpi any better?

[Felix Miata]

Ankur Sinha composed on 2016-05-10 13:12 (UTC+0100):


I just had an email from someone that installed F23 on a box with an
hidpi screen. Apparently, even using the window scaling etc doesn't
quite "make it look OK" - has anyone tried F24 with one of these
screens? Is it any better?


HiDPI can be simulated with any ordinary display, by forcing DPI to any 
arbitrary value, enabling panning to a framebuffer size that corresponds to 
the resolution of the screen you want to simulate, then increasing the 
distance between your face and the display. Either xorg.conf* or xrandr can 
work equally well at least in theory, but you may find one or the other 
vexing due to various server or driver bugs[1], and need to use the other. 
Because of panning, you can't see the whole screen at once, but you can get a 
decent idea of what the complaints are about. For this simulation to work, 
the DE's screen controls, e.g. krandr and/or kscreen in KDE, needs to be 
disabled, so that the countermand of the server's 96 DPI forcing is respected 
rather than disregarded.


[1] e.g.
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77321
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90842
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94403
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Re: F24 - gnome3 - hidpi any better?

[Jaroslav Reznik]

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Nikos Roussos 
wrote:

> On 05/10/2016 03:12 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just had an email from someone that installed F23 on a box with an
> > hidpi screen. Apparently, even using the window scaling etc doesn't
> > quite "make it look OK" - has anyone tried F24 with one of these
> > screens? Is it any better?
> >
> > (All I've found are multiple posts suggesting tweak-tool and then a few
> > that crib about window scaling options being limited to whole numbers.)
>
> That's the most common complaint I also hear around hidpi support.
> Scaling window accepting only integers and not decimals makes it pretty
> much unusable.
>

Yep, that makes GNOME practically unusable on semi-HDPI screens like Carbon
has - you have too small or too big everything. And the worst scenario is
when you mix it with FullHD external monitors (at least, this is fixed with
Wayland - somehow). Unfortunately Qt guys decided to follow integer only
approach (even it's internally implemented as floats) and the only sensible
fix is to set font DPI in KDE settings. Also Plasma scales pretty well then
and it's possible to find balance between too small on laptop and too big
on FullHD :).

R.


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Re: F24 - gnome3 - hidpi any better?

[Ankur Sinha]

On Tue, 2016-05-10 at 16:49 +0200, Adam Williamson wrote:
> That seems like an impossible question to answer, since the complaint
> is so vague. What exactly is meant by 'make it look OK'?

I know - this is a new F23 user here - not exactly used to our
debugging practices. 

The issue seems to be centred around the sizes of the bars, borders,
text and so on. While text scaling and window scaling using gnome-
tweak-tool seem to improve it, the general consensus seems to be that
it still isn't "the way it should be" (as Nick also says in his
reply). 

Unfortunately, I haven't access to an hidpi monitor and can't see what
the issue is myself. I'll request screenshots - that should explain the
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Missing expected images:

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ID: 16812   Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso install_default_upload
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/16812
ID: 16813   Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso install_default@uefi
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ID: 16824   Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/16824
ID: 16830   Test: x86_64 Workstation-boot-iso install_default@uefi
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ID: 16840   Test: x86_64 universal install_delete_pata@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/16840
ID: 16844   Test: x86_64 universal install_multi@uefi
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URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/16856
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URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/16857
ID: 16858   Test: x86_64 universal install_multi_empty@uefi
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ID: 16859   Test: x86_64 universal install_software_raid@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/16859
ID: 16860   Test: x86_64 universal install_delete_partial@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/16860
ID: 16861   Test: x86_64 universal install_btrfs@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/16861
ID: 16862   Test: x86_64 universal install_ext3@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/16862
ID: 16863   Test: x86_64 universal install_xfs@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/16863
ID: 16864   Test: x86_64 universal install_lvmthin@uefi
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ID: 16865   Test: x86_64 universal install_no_swap@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/16865
ID: 16868   Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_desktop_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/16868
ID: 16870   Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_kde_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/16870
ID: 16872   Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_desktop_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/16872
ID: 16874   Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_kde_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/16874
ID: 16878   Test: x86_64 universal install_european_language
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/16878
ID: 16889   Test: i386 universal upgrade_desktop_32bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/16889
ID: 16890   Test: i386 universal upgrade_2_desktop_32bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/16890
ID: 16891   Test: i386 universal install_package_set_kde
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Re: F24 - gnome3 - hidpi any better?

[Adam Williamson]

On Tue, 2016-05-10 at 13:12 +0100, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just had an email from someone that installed F23 on a box with an
> hidpi screen. Apparently, even using the window scaling etc doesn't
> quite "make it look OK" - has anyone tried F24 with one of these
> screens? Is it any better?

That seems like an impossible question to answer, since the complaint
is so vague. What exactly is meant by 'make it look OK'?
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Re: F24 - gnome3 - hidpi any better?

[Nikos Roussos]

On 05/10/2016 03:12 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just had an email from someone that installed F23 on a box with an
> hidpi screen. Apparently, even using the window scaling etc doesn't
> quite "make it look OK" - has anyone tried F24 with one of these
> screens? Is it any better?
> 
> (All I've found are multiple posts suggesting tweak-tool and then a few
> that crib about window scaling options being limited to whole numbers.)

That's the most common complaint I also hear around hidpi support.
Scaling window accepting only integers and not decimals makes it pretty
much unusable.


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F24 - gnome3 - hidpi any better?

[Ankur Sinha]

Hi,

I just had an email from someone that installed F23 on a box with an
hidpi screen. Apparently, even using the window scaling etc doesn't
quite "make it look OK" - has anyone tried F24 with one of these
screens? Is it any better?

(All I've found are multiple posts suggesting tweak-tool and then a few
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Re: [Fedora QA] #485: F24 Workstation graphical upgrade test day

[Fedora QA]

#485: F24 Workstation graphical upgrade test day
---+---
  Reporter:  adamwill  |  Owner:  sumantrom
  Type:  task  | Status:  assigned
  Priority:  major |  Milestone:  Fedora 24
 Component:  Test Day  |Version:
Resolution:|   Keywords:
Blocked By:|   Blocking:
---+---
Changes (by sumantrom):

 * owner:   => sumantrom
 * status:  new => assigned


Comment:

 Hey All,

 I had a word with Richard and 16th May is the date that seems good to run
 the test day. Assigning this ticket to myself and rolling up with the prep
 work.

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F24 - ncsvc VPN doesn't work any more

[Ankur Sinha]

Hi,

I've just updated to F24 - a clean install, not an upgrade - and I was
wondering if someone else that needs to use the ncsvc thing to use a
vpn could please check if it still works?

I need to use this to vpn into the university network - it worked
flawlessly with F23 but I haven't been able to get it to work since
upgrading to F24. It seems to connect, the IP of my system changes, the
/etc/resolve.conf is updated too, but neither can I access any
websites, nor can I ssh into boxes at uni.

Any tips on how to debug this? The ncsvc thing is the same - the change
here is F24.
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Re: [Fedora QA] #485: F24 Workstation graphical upgrade test day

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#485: F24 Workstation graphical upgrade test day
---+---
  Reporter:  adamwill  |  Owner:
  Type:  task  | Status:  new
  Priority:  major |  Milestone:  Fedora 24
 Component:  Test Day  |Version:
Resolution:|   Keywords:
Blocked By:|   Blocking:
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Comment (by sumantrom):

 Replying to [comment:3 kparal]:
 > Hello Sumantro, do you have a status update for this? Do you need any
 help, e.g. with setting up the wiki page, or anything else? Which day are
 you going to pick for this? Thanks.
 Hey Kamil, I will be done with it by tomorrow or day after. I was down
 with fever but I am back in shape and the wiki page will be up with
 testcases and all. I asked adam , he asked me to have a word with the
 developers regarding the dates, I will get back to you on the dates as
 soon as I get reply from them. Thanks

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