Re: fetchmail and plain text password

2009-12-30 Thread Victor Sudakov
Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > Are you saying I can make mutt read mail directly from the imap > > > server? Without fetchmail? > > > > Certainly. mutt is a very good IMAP client, you can do some tricky > > things with it like > > > > mutt -f imaps://y...@yourserver.edu/~otheruser/somefolder/so

Re: fetchmail and plain text password

2009-12-30 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 02:16:51PM +0600, Victor Sudakov wrote: > Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > Are you saying I can make mutt read mail directly from the imap > > server? Without fetchmail? > > Certainly. mutt is a very good IMAP client, you can do some tricky > things with it like > > mutt -f

Re: fetchmail and plain text password

2009-12-30 Thread Victor Sudakov
Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > Are you saying I can make mutt read mail directly from the imap > server? Without fetchmail? Certainly. mutt is a very good IMAP client, you can do some tricky things with it like mutt -f imaps://y...@yourserver.edu/~otheruser/somefolder/somemailbox or even mutt -f

Re: fetchmail and plain text password

2009-12-29 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:53:24 + RW articulated: >BTW personally I use getmail instead of fetchmail, I've not used >fetchmail much, but I've read a lot of bad things about it - some of >which are mentioned here: > >http://pyropus.ca/software/getmail/faq.html#faq-about-why That "article" is g

Re: fetchmail and plain text password

2009-12-29 Thread Roland Smith
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 05:26:42PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > Why not just point your preferred mail client at the imap server? > > That way you can access your mail from anywhere (probably via > > webmail too) Some imap clients, such as thunderbird and kmail, will > > let you store your

Re: fetchmail and plain text password

2009-12-29 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 04:53:24PM +, RW wrote: > On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:44:21 + > Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > I might be wrong, but that's my understanding. > > So programs like fetchmail that actually connect to their > > imap server and download mail to local boxes are probably > > no

Re: fetchmail and plain text password

2009-12-29 Thread RW
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:44:21 + Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I might be wrong, but that's my understanding. > So programs like fetchmail that actually connect to their > imap server and download mail to local boxes are probably > not very welcome. You probably are wrong, it's more a case of you

Re: fetchmail and plain text password

2009-12-29 Thread RW
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:21:30 +0100 Roland Smith wrote: > In other words, a proper IMAP server does not permit plaintext > passwords. No, it MUST be implemented, but only SHOULD be used. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freeb

Re: fetchmail and plain text password

2009-12-29 Thread Roland Smith
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 01:44:21PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > it doesn't work like that.. > > I think it's an imap server. > > Anyway, I'm trying to get in touch with them. > One of the problems is that the Uni are trying to > implement a system where mail is never downloaded from the > m

Re: fetchmail and plain text password

2009-12-29 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 02:22:09PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: > On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 08:03:53AM -0500, Robert Huff wrote: > > > > Anton Shterenlikht writes: > > > > I'd be more worried that your password is sent as plaintext over > > > > the network using e.g. POP3. You should use the --ssl

Re: fetchmail and plain text password

2009-12-29 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 02:22:09PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: > > U.S. oriented to the home user - rarely do, It's a non-trivial > > amount of work to get working and then monitor for correct behavior > > and possible breaches. > > Agreed. Which is exactly why I like xs4all so much. :-) They do p

Re: fetchmail and plain text password

2009-12-29 Thread Roland Smith
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 08:03:53AM -0500, Robert Huff wrote: > > Anton Shterenlikht writes: > > > I'd be more worried that your password is sent as plaintext over > > > the network using e.g. POP3. You should use the --ssl option if > > > your mailserver allows it. > > > > it looks like it

Re: fetchmail and plain text password

2009-12-29 Thread Robert Huff
Anton Shterenlikht writes: > > I'd be more worried that your password is sent as plaintext over > > the network using e.g. POP3. You should use the --ssl option if > > your mailserver allows it. > > it looks like it doesn't allow ssl. It is my understanding ISPs - at least those i

Re: fetchmail and plain text password

2009-12-29 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 11:11:50 + Anton Shterenlikht replied: >On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 06:35:15PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 03:15:53PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: >> > I use fetchmail >> > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-fetchmail

Re: fetchmail and plain text password

2009-12-29 Thread Roland Smith
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:11:50AM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > > > With these changes, only you and the superuser can read that file. > > yes, an attacker gaining superuser access is my worry. > I'm reading Garfinkel and Spafford (1996) Practical UNIX & internel security > (a bit out of

Re: fetchmail and plain text password

2009-12-29 Thread Victor Sudakov
Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I use fetchmail > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-fetchmail.html > to download all my mail from the Uni mail > server to my fbsd box. > > I typically run it in daemon mode, which requires > having my mail server password in plain text in .

Re: fetchmail and plain text password

2009-12-29 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 06:35:15PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote: > On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 03:15:53PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > I use fetchmail > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-fetchmail.html > > to download all my mail from the Uni mail > > server to my fb

Re: fetchmail and plain text password

2009-12-28 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 03:15:53PM +, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > I use fetchmail > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-fetchmail.html > to download all my mail from the Uni mail > server to my fbsd box. > > I typically run it in daemon mode, which requires > having

fetchmail and plain text password

2009-12-28 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
I use fetchmail http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mail-fetchmail.html to download all my mail from the Uni mail server to my fbsd box. I typically run it in daemon mode, which requires having my mail server password in plain text in .fetchmailrc I'm a little worried about