[AG-TECH] Yet another test.
Hi, I have upgraded the software on our node and I am hoping to test it this afternoon, between 14.00 and 15.00. (GMT) The venue I am testing in will be the ANL room. I hope some people will be able to visit. I am interested in the sound quality from and to our node. Regards, David Bowler The University of Sheffield Corporate Information Computing Services Computer Centre Hounsfield Road Sheffield S3 7RF UK E-Mail d.bow...@sheffield.ac.uk Tel: (0114) 222 3087
[AG-TECH] Another demo
Hi everybody, We have two more demos, on thursday and friday (25th and 26th of november). I would appreciate some help of remote sites to do it. http://agschedule.ncsa.uiuc.edu/meetingdetails.asp?MID=6639 http://agschedule.ncsa.uiuc.edu/meetingdetails.asp?MID=6638 Thanks in advance to those sites that can spend some time in this matter. Kind regards, Natalia.
[AG-TECH] AGTK2.3 for MacOS X
Hello - I've download/installed the AGTK for MacOS X and it seems to work pretty well. I had some troubles importing my certificate initially, but managed to get past that. There are apparently none of the mbone tools (vic and rat) distributed with the tookit, or at least I haven't been able to locate them yet. And I haven't managed to find a binary on the net for either that's been ported to MacOS. Does anyone on the list have either a pointer to binaries for vic rat or information about getting them running under MacOS X? Thanks. --dean
RE: [AG-TECH] Web forms problems
Thanks you, Tom, my request for a venue on the venueserver has just been submitted successfully. Jon. -- Jon I Johansson * Research Computing Support jon.johans...@ualberta.ca * Computing and Network Services Tel.: (780) 492-9304* University of Alberta Fax.: (780) 492-1729* Edmonton, Alberta, CANADA -Original Message- From: owner-ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov [mailto:owner-ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov] On Behalf Of Thomas D. Uram Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 2:47 PM To: Jon Johansson Cc: ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] Web forms problems Jon: The script behind the institutional venue request page was temporarily down for some transitional changes; I've brought it back up now. I'll look into the issue with the node registration page and get back to you. Tom Jon Johansson wrote: Hi, I'm trying to apply for a venue on the Institutional Venue Server using the form at: http://www-unix.mcs.anl.gov/fl/research/accessgrid/venues/ivs.html I fill in every field and when I click on the Submit button I get an error message: Error requesting new venue. Please resubmit your request. This occurs on both IE 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_rtm... and Mozilla 1.72. I've also been trying to register my node under the global node listing using the node registration page: http://www-fp.mcs.anl.gov/ag/register.htm I did this a couple of weeks ago (before SCGlobal) and I've done it again today. I can't tell whether the info has gone off to wait to be processed, been sent to /dev/null or been collected by spammers. My node doesn't appear on the Canadian nodes page so how can I check whether there is a problem and get it rectified? Thanks, Jon.
[AG-TECH] AG 1.x and AGSchedule
As Argonne National Lab will be retiring their AG1.x infrastructure on Dec 1 2004, AGSchedule will no longer support the AG1.x launch capability for the NCSA venues as of January 3, 2005. Please direct any questions to the AGSchedule Administrator: agsched...@ncsa.uiuc.edu Thanx, Michael Miller System Engineer Visualization Technology Support Computing and Data Management National Center for Supercomputing Applications University of Illinois - UC 217-649-0747 If you're clear in your vision and trust the people in your team with clear objectives, they will invariably do their best to achieve everything desired, and usually deliver everything you could have hoped for and even more. -Paul Debevec
Re: [AG-TECH] Web forms problems
Jon: The script behind the institutional venue request page was temporarily down for some transitional changes; I've brought it back up now. I'll look into the issue with the node registration page and get back to you. Tom Jon Johansson wrote: Hi, I'm trying to apply for a venue on the Institutional Venue Server using the form at: http://www-unix.mcs.anl.gov/fl/research/accessgrid/venues/ivs.html I fill in every field and when I click on the Submit button I get an error message: Error requesting new venue. Please resubmit your request. This occurs on both IE 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_rtm... and Mozilla 1.72. I've also been trying to register my node under the global node listing using the node registration page: http://www-fp.mcs.anl.gov/ag/register.htm I did this a couple of weeks ago (before SCGlobal) and I've done it again today. I can't tell whether the info has gone off to wait to be processed, been sent to /dev/null or been collected by spammers. My node doesn't appear on the Canadian nodes page so how can I check whether there is a problem and get it rectified? Thanks, Jon.
[AG-TECH] Web forms problems
Hi, I'm trying to apply for a venue on the Institutional Venue Server using the form at: http://www-unix.mcs.anl.gov/fl/research/accessgrid/venues/ivs.html I fill in every field and when I click on the Submit button I get an error message: Error requesting new venue. Please resubmit your request. This occurs on both IE 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_rtm... and Mozilla 1.72. I've also been trying to register my node under the global node listing using the node registration page: http://www-fp.mcs.anl.gov/ag/register.htm I did this a couple of weeks ago (before SCGlobal) and I've done it again today. I can't tell whether the info has gone off to wait to be processed, been sent to /dev/null or been collected by spammers. My node doesn't appear on the Canadian nodes page so how can I check whether there is a problem and get it rectified? Thanks, Jon. -- Jon I Johansson * Research Computing Support jon.johans...@ualberta.ca * Computing and Network Services Tel.: (780) 492-9304* University of Alberta Fax.: (780) 492-1729* Edmonton, Alberta, CANADA
[AG-TECH] Fedora Core 3
All Has anyone used FC3 with AGtk 2.3? We are upgrading our old 3 machine node and would like to know if anyone is running FC3 yet. Thanks Paul -- Paul Mercer Arctic Region Supercomputing Center 907 450 8649
Re: [AG-TECH] Whiteboard for AG
Thank you for shedding light on the subject :)
I'm wondering this though, how do AccessGrid and MLB work together
since MLB appears to need it's own multicast port. It should be possible
to add it as a service, yes? Does anyone have an AccessGrid service that
will tie MLB into an AG session? MLB looks like it does a lot that the
AG client does (particpant list etc.), so maybe that's overly
complicated for what AccessGrid would need.
The Shared Image Viewer is much more like what I was wanting to find, a
nice simple app. A GUI 'palette' etc. would be nice (Dave, if you're
reading :) :)). The only problem I've found is I can never seem to clear
the 'whiteboard' on the remote sides, the venue seems to 'remember' all
the markup that was ever in the session, even if the 'erase venue
markup' is checked. You're right it's nearly there though.
Thanks,
Derek
Christoph Willing wrote:
On 20/11/2004, at 3:54 AM, Derek Piper wrote:
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone has used the LBNL or UCL whiteboard
programs ('wb' or 'wbd' respectively) with AccessGrid sessions. They
don't appear to be maintained any more though. Are there any good
whiteboard solutions out there for use on the AccessGrid?
Derek,
When we first started doing AG stuff here in Australia, a few sites
played with MLB (Media Lecture Board). Its really only due to lack of
demand by users that we haven't perservered. I notice that there was a
new release for Windows Linux in May 2004, so perhaps its still a
viable project. Its at:
http://www.informatik.uni-mannheim.de/pi4/projects/mlb/
Also (perhaps a bit out of left field), I've been looking at Dave
Semeraro's Shared Image Viewer at:
http://cherokee.ncsa.uiuc.edu/~semeraro/Stupid_AG_Tricks/default.htm
Although its meant for sharing views of images, it also has a mark up
mechanism i.e. anyone in the session can draw on the image and this
drawing is seen by all the participants. Although the mark up stuff is
still in very early stages of its development, it strikes me that this
combination of image viewer and mark up mechanism is really the
beginning of a whiteboard style of program.
The current Shared Image Viewer is all written in wxPython, so is
completely Windows Linux compatible. Unfortunately the Windows Linux
AG 2.3 software releases use different wxPython versions, which will
affect (badly) most Linux AG users trying the SharedImageViewer. There
is a Share Image Viewer version which fixes this problem at:
http://www.ap-accessgrid.org/AG2/siv.html
which I'm hoping will be included in Dave's official release.
chris
Christoph WillingPh: +61 7 3365 8350
QPSF Access Grid Manager
University of Queensland
--
Derek Piper - dcpi...@indiana.edu - (812) 856 0111
IRI 323, School of Informatics
Indiana University, Bloomington, Indiana
[AG-TECH] Uninstalled and re-installed....still can't add video service or audio service
Douglas Baggett wrote: Hi! Thanks in advance to anybody who can help me with this. I'm trying to set up a single system AG 2.3 system with a 3com homeconnect USB camera. I'm able to connect to the ANL Venues and I'm able to open the node management window, but when I try to add my video service I ether get an error that the camera cannot be added or the client freezes. I get the same issue with the audio. I've uninstalled the AG 2.x sofware with no effect. -Doug B CISE/NSF/OAD Ooopsand of course re-installed after uninstalling it. I also completely unintalled python and wxwindows and reinstalled them as well.
[AG-TECH] Adding Video Service Freezes client
Hi! Thanks in advance to anybody who can help me with this. I'm trying to set up a single system AG 2.3 system with a 3com homeconnect USB camera. I'm able to connect to the ANL Venues and I'm able to open the node management window, but when I try to add my video service I ether get an error that the camera cannot be added or the client freezes. I get the same issue with the audio. I've uninstalled the AG 2.x sofware with no effect. -Doug B CISE/NSF/OAD
Re: Fw: [AG-TECH] multinode?
The Access Grid is based off of the Globus toolkit currently. The Globus toolkit is one toolkit developed to enable the creation and use of grids. Primarily what the AG uses of the Globus toolkit are the secure connections (hence the need for certificates) and data transfer/storage (i.e., GridFTP). By itself, the AGTk does not allow the job submission, etc; however, since it's based on the Globus toolkit adding those services or shared applications is fairly trivial. Derek has the right description in regards to the AG enabling people to interact the way that Globus and grid toolkits enable computers/clusters to interact. That being said, I believe there has been work as part of the Scientific Workspaces of the Future (SWOF) project to create an AG shared application or service that allows an AG user to start globus jobs on a remote cluster using data stored in the AG data store and collect data back to the AG data store. On Mon, 2004-11-22 at 09:15 -0500, Derek Piper wrote: For my own understanding of it, I didn't think that grid-computing (TeraGrid) and AccessGrid were the same sorts of things. To my mind, 'AccessGrid' is a colaborative tool, any number of people can interact with each other. Grid computing on the other hand is .. well, any number of *computers* 'interacting' with each other, i.e. job/message passing. People might use the AccessGrid to talk about projects like TeraGrid, but I don't believe they are as closely related as you mention. By nodes 'working', the subject I thought was that of running AccessGrid audio,video and display services on machines of either platform (Windows/Linux). In that manner, either platform works for each service. There may be performance differences, but they will both do a job. Of course I am happy to be enlightened about any of this by anyone more knowledgable :) Derek Natalia Costas Lago wrote: Mmmm i dont understand then the grid part of AccessGrid, I though you could send a job to a resource on the grid... I know almost nothing about grid computing. How can u do that without comands like globus-job-run?? Could you send me some directions about how could I do it from Linux or windows?. Is there any documentation related to how to access the grid using AccessGrid?, we have a deparment working on projects related to grid, I would like to know the things I should ask to them in order to do a demo about AccessGrid grid capabilities. The point is that i wanna shouw our collegues a demo about accessing the grid and working together using the Accessgrid. Kind regards, Natalia. - Original Message - From: Derek Piper dcpi...@indiana.edu To: Natalia Costas Lago nata...@cesga.es Cc: ag-tech ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 3:41 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [AG-TECH] multinode? Both platforms have globus, Windows and Linux. How else would a personal node work? :) Chris is right, all combinations work. Python and C are cross-platform languages. In theory even Mac OS-X would work too, using the unix AG source. Derek Natalia Costas Lago wrote: Do people involved in Grid projects agree with that?. Does Win globus support have the same functionality as Linux one? I think I recalled that some months ago I realised that there werent the same globus files in windows than in Linux, and I asked our system guys and they said that there was no globus for windows... Regards, Natalia. - Original Message - From: Osland, CD (Chris) c.d.osl...@rl.ac.uk To: AG-TECH list ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:49 AM Subject: RE: [AG-TECH] multinode? I totally agree; all-Windows, all-Linux, mixed: all work. I don't know the status of AG on Macs these days because we don't use them. Cheers Chris Chris Osland Office tel: +44 (0) 1235 446565 Digital Media and Access Grid Medialab tel: +44 (0) 1235 446459 BIT Department Access Grid room tel: +44 (0) 1235 445666 e-mail: c.d.osl...@rl.ac.uk Fax: +44 (0) 1235 445597 CCLRC Rutherford Appleton Laboratory (Bldg. R18) Chilton, DIDCOT, Oxon OX11 0QX, UK [The contents of this email are confidential and are for the use of the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient do not take any action on it or show it to anyone else, but return this email to the sender and delete your copy of it.] -Original Message- From: owner-ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov [mailto:owner-ag-t...@mcs.anl.gov]On Behalf Of Christoph Willing Sent: 19 November 2004 03:43 To: Natalia Costas Lago Cc: AG-TECH list Subject: Re: [AG-TECH] multinode? On 19/11/2004, at 3:48
