Hi,
I'll open a vote thread on MyFaces' dev list.
we got 13 +1 votes on the MyFaces dev list.
I'll follow up with a vote on general @ incubator to get approval for
the graduation as a MyFaces subproject.
I'll keep you posted.
-Matthias
Greetings,
Matthias
On 4/11/07, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Trinidad PPMC members and Trinidad community,
we have discussed during the last months (time by time, not permanent)
that Trinidad is ready to graduate from the Apache Incubator; we also
managed to get releases of the artifacts out. Main question is (see
the original email threads) should Trinidad be a subproject of Apache
MyFaces or should it be a TLP.
Please cast your votes (only one is possible):
[ ] graduate as a subproject of the Apache MyFaces community
[ ] graduate as a TLP
[ ] not ready to graduate, because...
-Matthias
On 4/11/07, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The dependency will be also the same, if we (MyFaces) go the proposed
route w/ Trinidad as the base for Tomahawk².
-Matthias
On 4/11/07, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As long as the community is somewhat similar (at least there are
people in both communities), I'm +1 for taking it in under MyFaces. My
only problem with the subproject approach is that when RCF comes out,
we'll have two sub projects where one sub project depends on the other
- kind of awkward.
regards,
Martin
On 4/11/07, Jeanne Waldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Simon,
I like your arguments and after reading this thread, I like the idea
of a subproject better than a TLP too. I wanted to comment so
ya'll will know there are more people reading the thread and
forming an opinion than have been commenting thus far. :)
- Jeanne
Simon Lessard wrote:
Personally I don't think a TLP would be a good idea just yet since
JSF is
still relatively new compared to some older well known frameworks. I
think
it's easier for new users to find all they need from one entry point
and
MyFaces seems the right place for that, at least for now.
Also, being a subproject will probably improve the users' confidence
in
library compatibility as well as encourage that compatibility to be
kept/improved by developers.
It may just be a feeling, but it seems to me that making Trinidad TLP
right
away would make it look a bit like a loner, especially since Tobago
and
Tomahawk are MyFaces sub projects. If JSF component sets should be
TLP(s),
then I think it should be done all at the same time, and this cannot
be
achieved until we harmonize Tomahawk, Trinidad and Tobago imho.
My 2¢,
~ Simon
On 4/11/07, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That was also a point of Noel, when proposing the RCF donation thing.
He was asking, why not having a JSF components project.
Perhaps that might be an interesting option, not sure yet; but when
RCF arrives somewhen.. there would be another component set.
Perhaps we should move the discussion for a split to the MyFaces
DEV
list, that the MyFaces PMC is also able to comment.
The components project could have a similar fashion like Jakarta.
But since this isn't yet the case, I'd agree that a subproject is the
best, for now.
-Matthias
On 4/11/07, Adam Winer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If there was an idea to split MyFaces into an implementation
half and a component set half, each as separate TLPs, then
I'd see your point - but as it is, MyFaces the TLP is both
an implementation and (currently) 2 component sets.
-- Adam
On 4/10/07, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry for the one in all reply..
Ok, let's switch perspective's here. MyFaces (the codebase) is a
JSF
implementation.
Tomahawk and Trinidad are JSF component sets. I am not comparing
the
possible overlap of the
component sets, I am focussing on the possible lack of overlap
in
community of the JSF
implementation and the component sets. Different goals, different
users and different developers
(although the last is not yet the case, it is most likely someone
interested in components is not
interested in coding on the JSF implementation).
Just playing bad cop here though, to hopefully prevent this
situation
(if you are aware of these
signs you can watch out for it)
Not going to vote -1 on a move to MyFaces.
Mvgr,
Martin
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