Re: TSM vs Veritas?
I would say it *is* the right approach! To make a fair comparison you have to get information from all competitors. Otherwise you will make the decision Nearly all answers on this thread point to the TSM vs. NetBackup comparison report from Progressive Strategies Inc. And all miss that the documents from Progressive Strategies are somewhat shifted: - they are made on IBM's request - competitive products are briefly described while IBM products are widely presented - IBM products have only advantages over what-is-to-be-compared product - look at copyright page for one vs. one product comparisons - The following terms are trademarks or registered trademarks of IBM ... + Other company, product, and service names mentioned may be trademarks or registered trademarks of their respective companies. My opinion is derived from two (no more, no less) reports - IBM TSM vs. VERITAS NetBackup and LTO vs. SDLT. I cannot comment the company itself. It is possible Progressive Strategies Inc. is famous somewhere but is unknown here (where I work and where our company's customers are) TSM is a very good product and I think does not need such mis-advertizement. Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Henrik Wahlstedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05.03.2003 10:47 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: TSM vs Veritas? Another way to look at it can be Veritas vs TSM at Veritas web site. It might not be the right approach, only a way to see the differences two ways... Srinivas Polu [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NET.CO.IN cc: (bcc: Henrik Wahlstedt) Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: TSM vs Veritas? Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU 2003-03-05 07:29 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Gerald, Pl. find the direct link to TSM Vs Veritas Document, Just click on it, you will go the the document. ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/software/tivoli/analystreports/ar-tsm-comparing-s um.pdf Srinivas Polu Systems Engineer. Tivoli Certified Consultant(TSM) HCL Technologies., NOIDA - INDIA Phone No: 91-0120-4535071 Ext:3376. Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Gerald Wichmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 7:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TSM vs Veritas? I'm looking for a good recent comparison of TSM vs Veritas Netbackup... Appreciate any links/suggestions on where to find a comparison. Thanks, Gerald Wichmann Senior Systems Development Engineer Zantaz, Inc. 925.598.3099 (w) This e-mail has been captured and archived by the ZANTAZ Digital Safe(tm) service. For more information, visit us at www.zantaz.com. IMPORTANT: This electronic mail message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or directly reply to the original message(s) sent. Thank you. --- The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is intended for the addressee only. Any unauthorised use, dissemination of the information or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the addressee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete this message. Thank you.
Re: TSM vs Veritas?
Another way to look at it can be Veritas vs TSM at Veritas web site. It might not be the right approach, only a way to see the differences two ways... Srinivas Polu [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NET.CO.IN cc: (bcc: Henrik Wahlstedt) Sent by: ADSM: Subject: Re: TSM vs Veritas? Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU 2003-03-05 07:29 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager Gerald, Pl. find the direct link to TSM Vs Veritas Document, Just click on it, you will go the the document. ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/software/tivoli/analystreports/ar-tsm-comparing-s um.pdf Srinivas Polu Systems Engineer. Tivoli Certified Consultant(TSM) HCL Technologies., NOIDA - INDIA Phone No: 91-0120-4535071 Ext:3376. Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Gerald Wichmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 7:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TSM vs Veritas? I'm looking for a good recent comparison of TSM vs Veritas Netbackup... Appreciate any links/suggestions on where to find a comparison. Thanks, Gerald Wichmann Senior Systems Development Engineer Zantaz, Inc. 925.598.3099 (w) This e-mail has been captured and archived by the ZANTAZ Digital Safe(tm) service. For more information, visit us at www.zantaz.com. IMPORTANT: This electronic mail message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or directly reply to the original message(s) sent. Thank you. --- The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is intended for the addressee only. Any unauthorised use, dissemination of the information or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the addressee, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete this message. Thank you.
Re: TSM vs Veritas?
I have a presentation which compares the performance for TSM and Veritas Netbackup... Even the zipped form is 523Kb... rgds Gagan Singh Rana What is now proved was once only imagined. the Business Enterprise Solutions Team QuantM Systems Pvt. Ltd. 79 Amrit Nagar, NDSE Part I New Delhi - 110003 Voice : 91-11-4691575/4602217 Fax: 91-11-4691188 Hand Phone : 91-9868091938 DISCLAIMER : The information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended SOLELY for the addressee. Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are NOT the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any opinions or advice contained in this e-mail are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing client relationship engagement letter. __ Visit us at www.quantm.com - Original Message - From: Chandrasekhar, C.R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:51 AM Subject: Re: TSM vs Veritas? hi Gerald Wichmann, I don't have product features comparison between TSM vs Veritas, But just have a look in URL for some real practical comparisons on performance etc. http://www.progstrat.com/press/TSMBsrpr.htm After reading this you get better picture about TSM. Thanks, C.R.Chandrasekhar. Systems Executive. Tivoli Certified Consultan(TSM). TIMKEN Engineering Research - INDIA (P) Ltd., Bangalore. Phone No: 91-80-5536113 Ext:3032. Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Gerald Wichmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 7:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TSM vs Veritas? I'm looking for a good recent comparison of TSM vs Veritas Netbackup... Appreciate any links/suggestions on where to find a comparison. Thanks, Gerald Wichmann Senior Systems Development Engineer Zantaz, Inc. 925.598.3099 (w) This e-mail has been captured and archived by the ZANTAZ Digital Safe(tm) service. For more information, visit us at www.zantaz.com. IMPORTANT: This electronic mail message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or directly reply to the original message(s) sent. Thank you. ** This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company **
Re: TSM vs Veritas?
I'm looking for a good recent comparison of TSM vs Veritas Netbackup... Appreciate any links/suggestions on where to find a comparison. As you would imagine, this has been discussed many times on the List. Check the list archives, and see the whitepaper on the Tivoli site.
Re: TSM vs Veritas?
Gerald, see www.tivoli.com/tsm and click on Comparing TSM and Veritas - it's the shortened version of longer papers and presentations. Joerg Pohlmann 604-535-0452 Gerald Wichmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-04 17:34 Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:TSM vs Veritas? I'm looking for a good recent comparison of TSM vs Veritas Netbackup... Appreciate any links/suggestions on where to find a comparison. Thanks, Gerald Wichmann Senior Systems Development Engineer Zantaz, Inc. 925.598.3099 (w) This e-mail has been captured and archived by the ZANTAZ Digital Safe(tm) service. For more information, visit us at www.zantaz.com. IMPORTANT: This electronic mail message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or directly reply to the original message(s) sent. Thank you.
Re: TSM vs Veritas?
hi Gerald Wichmann, I don't have product features comparison between TSM vs Veritas, But just have a look in URL for some real practical comparisons on performance etc. http://www.progstrat.com/press/TSMBsrpr.htm After reading this you get better picture about TSM. Thanks, C.R.Chandrasekhar. Systems Executive. Tivoli Certified Consultan(TSM). TIMKEN Engineering Research - INDIA (P) Ltd., Bangalore. Phone No: 91-80-5536113 Ext:3032. Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Gerald Wichmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 7:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TSM vs Veritas? I'm looking for a good recent comparison of TSM vs Veritas Netbackup... Appreciate any links/suggestions on where to find a comparison. Thanks, Gerald Wichmann Senior Systems Development Engineer Zantaz, Inc. 925.598.3099 (w) This e-mail has been captured and archived by the ZANTAZ Digital Safe(tm) service. For more information, visit us at www.zantaz.com. IMPORTANT: This electronic mail message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or directly reply to the original message(s) sent. Thank you. ** This message and any attachments are intended for the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not forward, copy, print, use or disclose this communication to others; also please notify the sender by replying to this message, and then delete it from your system. The Timken Company **
Re: TSM vs Veritas?
hi Geralad, You can look into below link, where u find a better solution www.tivoli.com/products/documents/ whitepapers/wp-tsm-lto.pdf Srinivas Polu Systems Engineer. Tivoli Certified Consultant(TSM) HCL Technologies., NOIDA - INDIA Phone No: 91-0120-4535071 Ext:3376. Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Gerald Wichmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 7:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TSM vs Veritas? I'm looking for a good recent comparison of TSM vs Veritas Netbackup... Appreciate any links/suggestions on where to find a comparison. Thanks, Gerald Wichmann Senior Systems Development Engineer Zantaz, Inc. 925.598.3099 (w) This e-mail has been captured and archived by the ZANTAZ Digital Safe(tm) service. For more information, visit us at www.zantaz.com. IMPORTANT: This electronic mail message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or directly reply to the original message(s) sent. Thank you.
Re: TSM vs Veritas?
Gerald, Pl. find the direct link to TSM Vs Veritas Document, Just click on it, you will go the the document. ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/software/tivoli/analystreports/ar-tsm-comparing-s um.pdf Srinivas Polu Systems Engineer. Tivoli Certified Consultant(TSM) HCL Technologies., NOIDA - INDIA Phone No: 91-0120-4535071 Ext:3376. Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Gerald Wichmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 7:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TSM vs Veritas? I'm looking for a good recent comparison of TSM vs Veritas Netbackup... Appreciate any links/suggestions on where to find a comparison. Thanks, Gerald Wichmann Senior Systems Development Engineer Zantaz, Inc. 925.598.3099 (w) This e-mail has been captured and archived by the ZANTAZ Digital Safe(tm) service. For more information, visit us at www.zantaz.com. IMPORTANT: This electronic mail message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or directly reply to the original message(s) sent. Thank you.
Re: tsm vs. veritas
Not really similar, unless you mean that both have client/server. You need TSM server installed on one machine and then clients on all the others that you intend to backup. TSM has many functions that makes it superior to Veritas Netbackup. Adolph Kahan AK Consulting Inc. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rick Francis Sent: November 20, 2001 8:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: tsm vs. veritas can you confirm that veritas netbackup is similiar to tsm/adsm? do both use the client/server model? if tsm is installed on a aix server, does a client piece have to be installed on a solaris server in order to be backed up? ditto for a nextstep, nt/2000 and hp server??? thanks.
Re: TSM vs. Veritas
Have you tried reading the manual or many of the whitepapers available? They may help. -Original Message- From: PINNI, BALANAND (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 4:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM vs. Veritas Importance: High Kelly We used Arch serve also on NT systems and is works fine to restore all the system files and what I ment was applications like sql,MACFEE ,PC anywhere. But with TSM it didn't do that on NT PLATFORMS. COULD U BACKUP THESE WITH TSM RESTORE BACK WELL. WITHOUT INSTALLING SYSTEM FILES AGAIN. COULD U DO USING TSM. That is if u had c: drive as SQL and all files and I backup as total and restore back .Did the system files applications work ok?Is ur registry with those applications intact.? PL note we get screens for each application but when sub process icons are clicked binding problems were found. What is ur suggestion.I request u to kindly give feedback. Thankx. BALANAND PINNI. PHONE 314-206-5911. EM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PG:1-800-451-6897. -Original Message- From: Kelly J. Lipp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 2:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM vs. Veritas I guess I'm confused about the comment that TSM can't restore applications. I know that isn't true. What is your perception? Kelly J. Lipp Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc. PO Box 51313 Colorado Springs CO 80949-1313 (719) 531-5926 Fax: (240) 539-7175 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.storsol.com www.storserver.com -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of PINNI, BALANAND (SBCSI) Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 12:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM vs. Veritas Importance: Low Hi STEPHEN I am also looking for the same. Veritas on WIN NT can get back applications well on restore but not with tivoli. Data files restoration are fine with tsm on NT. -Original Message- From: Stephen A. Cochran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 12:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TSM vs. Veritas Anyone done a through comparison between TSM and Veritas. TSM is used as the main system here, but veritas is used with some NAS which houses our main Oracle database. There's a small push to consolidate to one solution, so I'm looking for feedback. Steve Cochran Dartmouth College Confidentiality Note: The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to whom or which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please delete this material immediately.
Re: TSM vs. Veritas
Hello - there was a discussion in the fall of 2000 (i think sept-nov time period) about the merits of both. serach for would you buy tsm again that is the suggestion from the mailing list archives (http://www.adsm.org) -j On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, PINNI, BALANAND (SBCSI) wrote: Hi STEPHEN I am also looking for the same. Veritas on WIN NT can get back applications well on restore but not with tivoli. Data files restoration are fine with tsm on NT. -Original Message- From: Stephen A. Cochran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 12:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TSM vs. Veritas Anyone done a through comparison between TSM and Veritas. TSM is used as the main system here, but veritas is used with some NAS which houses our main Oracle database. There's a small push to consolidate to one solution, so I'm looking for feedback. Steve Cochran Dartmouth College John Jamie Marquart | This message posted 100% MS free. Digital Library SysAdmin| Work: 812-856-5174 Pager: 812-334-6018 Indiana University Libraries| ICQ: 1131494 D'net Team: 6265
Re: TSM vs. Veritas
I guess I'm confused about the comment that TSM can't restore applications. I know that isn't true. What is your perception? Kelly J. Lipp Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc. PO Box 51313 Colorado Springs CO 80949-1313 (719) 531-5926 Fax: (240) 539-7175 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.storsol.com www.storserver.com -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of PINNI, BALANAND (SBCSI) Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 12:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM vs. Veritas Importance: Low Hi STEPHEN I am also looking for the same. Veritas on WIN NT can get back applications well on restore but not with tivoli. Data files restoration are fine with tsm on NT. -Original Message- From: Stephen A. Cochran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 12:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TSM vs. Veritas Anyone done a through comparison between TSM and Veritas. TSM is used as the main system here, but veritas is used with some NAS which houses our main Oracle database. There's a small push to consolidate to one solution, so I'm looking for feedback. Steve Cochran Dartmouth College
Re: TSM vs. Veritas
Kelly We used Arch serve also on NT systems and is works fine to restore all the system files and what I ment was applications like sql,MACFEE ,PC anywhere. But with TSM it didn't do that on NT PLATFORMS. COULD U BACKUP THESE WITH TSM RESTORE BACK WELL. WITHOUT INSTALLING SYSTEM FILES AGAIN. COULD U DO USING TSM. That is if u had c: drive as SQL and all files and I backup as total and restore back .Did the system files applications work ok?Is ur registry with those applications intact.? PL note we get screens for each application but when sub process icons are clicked binding problems were found. What is ur suggestion.I request u to kindly give feedback. Thankx. BALANAND PINNI. PHONE 314-206-5911. EM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PG:1-800-451-6897. -Original Message- From: Kelly J. Lipp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 2:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM vs. Veritas I guess I'm confused about the comment that TSM can't restore applications. I know that isn't true. What is your perception? Kelly J. Lipp Storage Solutions Specialists, Inc. PO Box 51313 Colorado Springs CO 80949-1313 (719) 531-5926 Fax: (240) 539-7175 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.storsol.com www.storserver.com -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of PINNI, BALANAND (SBCSI) Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 12:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TSM vs. Veritas Importance: Low Hi STEPHEN I am also looking for the same. Veritas on WIN NT can get back applications well on restore but not with tivoli. Data files restoration are fine with tsm on NT. -Original Message- From: Stephen A. Cochran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 12:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: TSM vs. Veritas Anyone done a through comparison between TSM and Veritas. TSM is used as the main system here, but veritas is used with some NAS which houses our main Oracle database. There's a small push to consolidate to one solution, so I'm looking for feedback. Steve Cochran Dartmouth College
