Re: [Infrastructure] Google doc for the CABF Handbook

[Ben Wilson via Infrastructure]

I've updated this some more:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfisFGuFKFeY4kHr08zsQks1GwpRVyn2Gl6-eGSDmOw/edit

On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 4:12 AM Inigo Barreira via Infrastructure <
infrastructure@cabforum.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
>
> See this link:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfisFGuFKFeY4kHr08zsQks1GwpRVyn2Gl6-eGSDmOw/edit?usp=sharing
>
>
>
> It´s a Google doc with what was shared initially in the email. It´s just a
> very first draft of a framework with the basics to handle to all
> new/old/potential responsible people in order to have it all in on document
> and organized.
>
> Some of these sections are already covered and some maybe need
> adjustments/updates/clarifications. Feel free to add anything that is
> correct and move the document where you think suits better.
>
>
>
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Re: [Infrastructure] Google doc for the CABF Handbook

[Ben Wilson via Infrastructure]

I took a first crack at it this afternoon.

On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 4:12 AM Inigo Barreira via Infrastructure <
infrastructure@cabforum.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
>
> See this link:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GfisFGuFKFeY4kHr08zsQks1GwpRVyn2Gl6-eGSDmOw/edit?usp=sharing
>
>
>
> It´s a Google doc with what was shared initially in the email. It´s just a
> very first draft of a framework with the basics to handle to all
> new/old/potential responsible people in order to have it all in on document
> and organized.
>
> Some of these sections are already covered and some maybe need
> adjustments/updates/clarifications. Feel free to add anything that is
> correct and move the document where you think suits better.
>
>
>
> Regards
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Re: [Infrastructure] New cabforum.org website

[Ben Wilson via Infrastructure]

I noticed there may be some YouTube videos on using Hugo with GitHub that
might be helpful, too.
If I see a good one, I'll let you know.
Ben

On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 9:09 AM Bruce Morton via Infrastructure <
infrastructure@cabforum.org> wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>
>
>
> The site looks great to me. Thanks for the great work!
>
>
>
>
>
> Bruce.
>
>
>
> *From:* Paul van Brouwershaven 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 31, 2024 6:43 AM
> *To:* Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) ; Bruce Morton <
> bruce.mor...@entrust.com>; Dean Coclin ; Inigo
> Barreira ; Stephen Davidson <
> stephen.david...@digicert.com>; Kiran Tummala ;
> Martijn Katerbarg ; Clint Wilson <
> cli...@apple.com>; David Kluge ; Paul van Brouwershaven
> 
> *Cc:* infrastructure@cabforum.org
> *Subject:* Re: New cabforum.org website
>
>
>
> If everyone is ok with the documentation and new website I suggest to
> switch to the new website to avoid any further divergence.
>
>
> --
>
> *From:* Infrastructure  on behalf of
> Paul van Brouwershaven via Infrastructure 
> *Sent:* Monday, January 29, 2024 12:58
> *To:* Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) ; Bruce Morton <
> bruce.mor...@entrust.com>; Dean Coclin ; Inigo
> Barreira ; Stephen Davidson <
> stephen.david...@digicert.com>; Kiran Tummala ;
> Martijn Katerbarg ; Clint Wilson <
> cli...@apple.com>; David Kluge 
> *Cc:* infrastructure@cabforum.org 
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] [Infrastructure] New cabforum.org website
>
>
>
> *WARNING: This email originated outside of Entrust.*
>
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> content is safe.
>
>
>
> Dear Chairs, Vice chairs and Infrastructure Committee,
>
>
>
> As discussed during some infrastructure calls and the last forum meeting I
> have been working on a new, more automated, website:
>
>
>
> https://cabforum.github.io/cabforum.org/
> 
>
>
>
> The content in this website is written in Markdown and some information is
> automatically pulled based on tags from other pages, directly from the
> Member Tools, GitHub content, issues and pull requests, etc.
>
>
>
> This includes the automatic publication and update of
> requirements/guidelines, charters, working group members, etc.
>
>
>
> Also ballots in draft, in discussion or IPR or those that have recently
> passed can be automatically shown based on the labels and status of GitHub
> pull requests. We do need to agree on the usage of some labels and probably
> create a pull request template, but this can be done after the new website
> is live.
>
>
>
> The latest releases is based on GitHub releases (only the S/MIME working
> group is using that currently). I have also been working on an update to
> the GitHub actions that build our guidelines to improve our release
> management, also this can be finished after the new website is live.
>
>
>
> *Instructions*
>
>
>
> I have created a website chapter on the wiki with some instructions and
> screenshots on how you can add pages, upload files, etc.:
>
>
>
> https://wiki.cabforum.org/books/forum/chapter/website
> 
>
>
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns about this new
> website and let me know if the instructions are sufficient and clear.
>
>
>
> I'm adding all new pages from the old website manually, but I would rather
> like to spend my time on further improvements and would there like to get
> your feedback and if there is anything that holds us back from switching to
> this new website.
>
>
>
> *Please let me know if you see any issues and if it's ok for you to switch
> or not!*
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
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Re: [Infrastructure] New cabforum.org website

[Ben Wilson via Infrastructure]

Hi,
I'll take a look at the instructions later today, but as a general matter,
I think it is fine to switch the website over sooner rather than later.
Ben

On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 4:44 AM Paul van Brouwershaven via Infrastructure <
infrastructure@cabforum.org> wrote:

> If everyone is ok with the documentation and new website I suggest to
> switch to the new website to avoid any further divergence.
>
> --
> *From:* Infrastructure  on behalf of
> Paul van Brouwershaven via Infrastructure 
> *Sent:* Monday, January 29, 2024 12:58
> *To:* Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) ; Bruce Morton <
> bruce.mor...@entrust.com>; Dean Coclin ; Inigo
> Barreira ; Stephen Davidson <
> stephen.david...@digicert.com>; Kiran Tummala ;
> Martijn Katerbarg ; Clint Wilson <
> cli...@apple.com>; David Kluge 
> *Cc:* infrastructure@cabforum.org 
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] [Infrastructure] New cabforum.org website
>
> WARNING: This email originated outside of Entrust.
> DO NOT CLICK links or attachments unless you trust the sender and know the
> content is safe.
>
> Dear Chairs, Vice chairs and Infrastructure Committee,
>
> As discussed during some infrastructure calls and the last forum meeting I
> have been working on a new, more automated, website:
>
> https://cabforum.github.io/cabforum.org/
> 
>
> The content in this website is written in Markdown and some information is
> automatically pulled based on tags from other pages, directly from the
> Member Tools, GitHub content, issues and pull requests, etc.
>
> This includes the automatic publication and update of
> requirements/guidelines, charters, working group members, etc.
>
> Also ballots in draft, in discussion or IPR or those that have recently
> passed can be automatically shown based on the labels and status of GitHub
> pull requests. We do need to agree on the usage of some labels and probably
> create a pull request template, but this can be done after the new website
> is live.
>
> The latest releases is based on GitHub releases (only the S/MIME working
> group is using that currently). I have also been working on an update to
> the GitHub actions that build our guidelines to improve our release
> management, also this can be finished after the new website is live.
>
> *Instructions*
>
> I have created a website chapter on the wiki with some instructions and
> screenshots on how you can add pages, upload files, etc.:
>
> https://wiki.cabforum.org/books/forum/chapter/website
> 
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns about this new
> website and let me know if the instructions are sufficient and clear.
>
> I'm adding all new pages from the old website manually, but I would rather
> like to spend my time on further improvements and would there like to get
> your feedback and if there is anything that holds us back from switching to
> this new website.
>
> *Please let me know if you see any issues and if it's ok for you to switch
> or not!*
>
> Paul
>
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Re: [Infrastructure] cabforum.org website with more automation

[Ben Wilson via Infrastructure]

This looks very good and very promising.  Thanks, Paul.
Ben

On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 1:29 PM Paul van Brouwershaven via Infrastructure <
infrastructure@cabforum.org> wrote:

> I started to convert the cabforum.org website to Hugo to give us more
> automation, you can see a preview here:
> https://cabforum.github.io/cabforum.org/
>
>
>- The homepage needs some work, currently just listing the latest
>posts.
>   - The homepage is currently always blue as GitHub does not publish
>   at the root "/" of the domain.
>- The latest documents are automatically included from GitHub
>(example,
>https://cabforum.github.io/cabforum.org/working-groups/smime/latest/)
>- The document release information is automatically downloaded and
>included in the sidebar, currently not working as of rate limiting, need to
>set a GitHub API key, also not all repositories create releases.
>- The post URLs need to be corrected; this should be a simple config.
>- I did not copy the dropdown menu's for now, this is quite
>complicated with pure bootstrap (like you can't have a hover that is also
>clickable) and want to keep things simple now. This is why I moved the sub
>menu to the right, only three levels are currently shown in the right menu,
>I need to make this recursive as we also have four levels.
>- I re-organized the pages/urls a bit, but included an alias for the
>original URLs, might need to tune this a bit further and will run a script
>to update all the URLs in the contents.
>- Search index is automatically updated on publication.
>- I will add a query to automatically list all minutes (posts with tag
>minutes and working group id)
>- We need to review the site contents for any other errors.
>- When the member tools can expose information in JSON (i.e., API) we
>can automatically include that information as well (such as members), the
>same for ballots (or we can get that information from GitHub
>issues/pull-requests), we can also query the old Google Sheets.
>
>
> On the right bottom of each page you will find an edit button, which will
> bring you to the markdown contents on GitHub.
>
> Some quick instruction are included in the readme of the repository:
> https://github.com/cabforum/cabforum.org/tree/main
>
> Let me know if you see any issues not mentioned above or if you have any
> other suggestions, comments or concerns.
>
> Paul
>
>
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[Infrastructure] Draft Minutes of Meeting 13-Dec-2023

[Ben Wilson via Infrastructure]

Here are the draft minutes from today's call:

*Minutes of Infrastructure Committee – 13-December-2023*

*Present:*  Ben Wilson, Dean Coclin, Iñigo Barreira, Paul Van
Brouwershaven, Wayne Thayer, and Roman Fischer

Ben read the Note Well.

The major topic for discussion was the creation of procedures documents for
handling tasks related to new and existing members. Iñigo asked whether
anything could be added to Member Tools to facilitate the processing of
applications and onboarding of new members.  The creation of a handbook for
working group chairs was also recommended. Process flows need to consider
applicants for full membership (Certificate Issuers and Certificate
Consumers), interested parties, associate members and probationary members.
Procedures need to address all possibilities and information needs to be
collected for which working group and subcommittees the member wants to
join, the names of voting representatives, etc. Checklist documents will be
needed, as well as a calendar that can be transitioned to a new working
group chair when the existing chair leaves office. (E.g. how would we track
the 6-month probationary period during a transition to new leadership?)

Iñigo said he would prepare a list of the documents of which he is aware
and provide a framework for dealing with the issues he encounters.  We’ll
need to prepare an outline of the handbook. The handbook could be generic
and useable by all working groups, with appendices for things that
specifically apply only to one working group.

Instructions for the Member Tools are also needed. It’s unclear how to
update a person’s record if they leave a company. Also, it was noted that
there are a couple of member self-management options that members should
use, which they should be able to find through links available on the wiki
– one using Member Tools and one using a Google Form.

Paul also suggested that we transition from WordPress to GoHugo (
https://gohugo.io). Then, we can manage the website’s member lists,
ballots, guideline documents, and minutes more easily using GitHub. He said
he has had a favorable experience doing so with another organization.

The meeting on December 27th is cancelled.

Meeting adjourned.
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Re: [Infrastructure] Update of "old" documents

[Ben Wilson via Infrastructure]

I have an item on my to-do list to work on this with Iñigo.
Cheers,
Ben

On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 8:32 AM Dean Coclin via Infrastructure <
infrastructure@cabforum.org> wrote:

> These were tools that Dimitris created and I refer to from time to time.
> We should keep/update them and add someplace in the tool.
> Dean
>
>
>
> *Dean Coclin *
>
> Sr. Director Business Development
>
> M 1.781.789.8686
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Infrastructure  *On Behalf
> Of *Inigo Barreira via Infrastructure
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 12, 2023 4:28 AM
> *To:* Ben Wilson via Infrastructure 
> *Subject:* [Infrastructure] Update of "old" documents
>
>
>
> Hi there,
>
>
>
> Maybe of interest for tomorrow´s call.
>
> While reviewing the application of TrustAsia, found this google doc with a
> checklist of what to do Checklist for New Member in SCWG/CAB Forum -
> Google Sheets
> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ayGAM80rUTlccsX5F-zxuUks6jftBsqVi3Vll0er1Z0/edit#gid=0>
>
> Do we need to update all these google docs? Have these implemented somehow
> in the member tool?
>
> Another one could be the IPRs document, do we need to keep the old ones in
> the wiki? What to do when one organization/person changes status? For
> example, TrustAsia from associate member to full member?
>
>
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Re: [Infrastructure] WordPress Instructions

[Ben Wilson via Infrastructure]

Thanks.
I have added more instructions for posting meeting minutes, although I
might not have captured all that you envisioned regarding which tags to
use.  It might be good to add sub-sections specific to each Working Group.
Ben

On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 9:00 AM Inigo Barreira via Infrastructure <
infrastructure@cabforum.org> wrote:

> +1. I think that list would be a good adding.
>
> -Mensaje original-
> De: Infrastructure  En nombre de
> Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) via Infrastructure
> Enviado el: lunes, 27 de noviembre de 2023 11:59
> Para: infrastructure@cabforum.org
> Asunto: Re: [Infrastructure] WordPress Instructions
>
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>
> Hi Ben, thank you for working on those instructions,
>
> Except for the tags you have indicated, should we perhaps have a listing
> of the exact tags that should be used on each occasion? For example, when
> publishing minutes, there may be tasks to distinguish if the minutes are
> for a Teleconference or a Physical (F2F) Meeting.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Dimitris.
>
> On 8/11/2023 11:57 μ.μ., Ben Wilson via Infrastructure wrote:
> > Today I started to edit the WordPress instructions for the website and
> > bring them up to date. (They're quite out-of-date.) I have provided a
> > link to them on the wiki -
> >
> https://wiki.cabforum.org/books/infrastructure/page/wordpress-instructions
> .
> > If you'd like to help me edit them and need "edit" access, then please
> > let me know.
> > Thanks,
> > Ben
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[Infrastructure] WordPress Instructions

[Ben Wilson via Infrastructure]

Today I started to edit the WordPress instructions for the website and
bring them up to date. (They're quite out-of-date.) I have provided a link
to them on the wiki -
https://wiki.cabforum.org/books/infrastructure/page/wordpress-instructions.
If you'd like to help me edit them and need "edit" access, then please let
me know.
Thanks,
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