Re: Re: [PHP-DEV] New RFC

2016-08-02 Thread Tomáš Holan
Oh that's sad, cause it's missing feature. But what we can do. Thanks for info 
Christoph.

- Původní zpráva - 
Odesilatel: "Christoph Becker" <cmbecke...@gmx.de> 
Příjemce: "Dan Ackroyd" <dan...@basereality.com>, "Tomáš Holan" 
<m...@tomasholan.eu> 
Kopie: internals@lists.php.net 
Datum: 02.08.2016 10:56 
Předmět: Re: [PHP-DEV] New RFC 

On 02.08.2016 at 09:11, Dan Ackroyd wrote:

> It has been thought about, and several people are looking at an
> implementation of generics: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/generics However,
> it seems quite hard to implement.
> 
> I am beginning to wonder if rather than aiming for full support of
> generics listed in that RFC, instead we just aimed for arrays that can
> only contain one type of variable as a good first step.

For the record: there has been the "Array Of" RFC[1], but that has been
declined.

[1] <https://wiki.php.net/rfc/arrayof>

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[PHP-DEV] New RFC

2016-08-02 Thread Tomáš Holan
Hi,
cause of my english, I think it's not good idea to wrote new RFC. But, there is 
feature which missing in PHP 7+. As you release new PHP version with type 
hinting and return type, you forgot for objects array like in JAVA or .NET
For better understand there is example of syntax in JAVA


Player[] thePlayers = new Player[playerCount + 1];
That's mean in variable thePlayers will be array witch items are only instances 
of Player class.
I'm not saying syntax have to be same, but functionality. Cause after this you 
can use type hints in functions/methods declaration like:

public function foo(Foobar[] $fooBarList):bool{ // Some work with array
return True;}
And if you insert array to this method as argument, there will be exception or 
notice, which say you "Argument 1 is not array of Foobar objects" for example.
Bad thing on this is I don't have experience and all needed knowledge for 
create full RFC and development of this feature.

What you saying? Can it be implemented?
Thank you alot for reply
Tomáš Holan(holantomas - wiki account)






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What's going on?

2016-01-18 Thread Xuan Holan

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Re: [pelaut] BNP2TKI

2013-04-21 Thread Holan
tapi katanya didaerah cikini buat ktkln nya ??? yg bener yg mana nih.

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 FYI... 
 Untuk pembuatan KTKLN syaratnya sbb : 
 - LG
 - EC
 - Passport yg sdh di sign on di imigrasi
 - Buku pelaut
 - Air ticket.
 Tempat pembuatannya alamat BNP2TKI.Jl. Pengantin Ali 1, Ciracas - Jakarta 
 Timur.
 sebetulnya pembuatan kartu KTKLN iniGRATIS... tetapi ada oknum yang mengatas 
 namakan
 koperasi ada biaya untuk formulir dan map dengan biaya Rp.50.000.
 Terima kasih.
 
 Regards,
 Agoes.
 
 NOTE: Mari kawan-kawan Pelaut Indonesia membantu pemerintah untuk
mengatakan TIDAK UNTUK KKN.
 
 
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 Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 11:00 PM
 Subject: [pelaut] BNP2TKI
 
 
   
 Salam buat Pelait Indonesia
 
 Dengan hormat.kawan2,saya mau nanya alamat buat kartu BNP2TKI.
 
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Re: [pelaut] Re: Maaf

2013-04-04 Thread Holan
mohon info nya, utk ngurus ktkln dimana ya alamtnyasyarat2 nya apa aja ?

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 Masalah gaji dr kmrn ga ga rampung2 to. Mlh tambah ruwet. Sesama pelaut mbok 
 yang rukun to yo yooo...
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 Reply-To: pelaut@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [pelaut] Re: Maaf
 
 kalo komen seperti ini aja udah dilarang..gimana mau demo kenaikan gaji 
 pelaut..??
 
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 Subject: [pelaut] Maaf
 
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 saya memang bru jd pelaut dan saya blom prnh krj d kpl tanker or cargo tp 
 mnurut crita dri tmn2 saya yg sudah senior katanya kpl tanker gjinya cukup 
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2009-12-10 Thread Holan


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[botnets] Infected Computers

2007-09-05 Thread John Holan
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Hi
Have been getting a lot of these lately
==
We are glad to inform you of a CANCER CURE invented 
by ANDOVER MEDICAL INC (ADOV), that will take 
the world by storm. This new medicine, is above all other 
and boosts a 80% success rate during clinical trials

Over the next few days you will hear about this in the PAPERS and on TV.

So buy shares now, while price is low, before the news hits.

ANDOVER MEDICAL INC (ADOV)
$.45

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==
Anybody interested in the originating IP's for them?
 
John 
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Re: [botnets] Infected Computers

2007-09-05 Thread John Holan
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Hi
They are coming from a botnet.
The email header has only the sending ip.

 
John Holan
 
IS Analyst
ASTAC
Phone # (907)563-3989
Fax # (907)563-1932
 

-Original Message-
From: ef [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 12:59 PM
To: John Holan
Subject: Re: [botnets] Infected Computers

Hi,
I'm wondering if it's the same thing:

Andover Medical, Inc. Issues Notice to Investment Community of
Unauthorized 
Email Distribution
http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/prnewswire/NEW11905092007-1
.htm

Do u have full e-mail headers? Where are you getting these mails from?

Cheers,
EF


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Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 10:37 PM
Subject: [botnets] Infected Computers


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 Hi
 Have been getting a lot of these lately
 ==
 We are glad to inform you of a CANCER CURE invented
 by ANDOVER MEDICAL INC (ADOV), that will take
 the world by storm. This new medicine, is above all other
 and boosts a 80% success rate during clinical trials

 Over the next few days you will hear about this in the PAPERS and on
TV.

 So buy shares now, while price is low, before the news hits.

 ANDOVER MEDICAL INC (ADOV)
 $.45

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 Anybody interested in the originating IP's for them?

 John
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Re: [botnets] Infected Computers

2007-09-05 Thread John Holan
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Resending the cleaned up list
This list has only the Stock spam IP's

John Holan
 
IS Analyst
ASTAC
Phone # (907)563-3989
Fax # (907)563-1932
 

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Yarden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 12:41 PM
To: John Holan
Subject: Re: [botnets] Infected Computers

On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 12:37:02PM -0800, John Holan wrote:
 To report a botnet PRIVATELY please email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 --
 Hi
 Have been getting a lot of these lately
 ==
 We are glad to inform you of a CANCER CURE invented 
 by ANDOVER MEDICAL INC (ADOV), that will take 
 the world by storm. This new medicine, is above all other 
 and boosts a 80% success rate during clinical trials
 
 Over the next few days you will hear about this in the PAPERS and on
TV.
 
 So buy shares now, while price is low, before the news hits.
 
 ANDOVER MEDICAL INC (ADOV)
 $.45
 
 --
 ==
 Anybody interested in the originating IP's for them?
  
 John 

Yes.  I have a spamtrap getting thumped with those messages as well,
I've
got a known-bad list running into the hundreds of thousands at the
moment. 
Care to do an IP list exchange?
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revolution inevitable.
-- John F. Kennedy

158.pool85-54-232.dynamic.orange.es [85.54.232.158]
189.pool85-53-218.dynamic.orange.es [85.53.218.189]
host-70-45-66-46.onelinkpr.net [70.45.66.46]
zli1-v-3-92.static.adsl.vol.cz [88.146.5.92]
grelton-static-1.wireless.bright.net [216.201.17.42]
c-24-5-206-25.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.5.206.25]
nrbg-4db478da.pool.einsundeins.de [77.180.120.218]
host42-76-static.91-82-b.business.telecomitalia.it [82.91.76.42]
host7-172-dynamic.1-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [79.1.172.7]
237.subnet125-162-43.speedy.telkom.net.id [125.162.43.237]
gk-000.leo-net.jp [138.243.129.128]
reverse.completel.net [195.167.196.4]
pppoe-192.6.110.89-adsl.spbnit.ru [89.110.6.192]
dynamic-adsl-hni.vietel.com.vn [125.235.98.234]
host110-229-dynamic.9-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [79.9.229.110]
71-220-84-42.mpls.qwest.net [71.220.84.42]
58-186-71-xxx-dynamic.hcm.fpt.vn [58.186.71.83]
183.25.broadband7.iol.cz [88.102.25.183]
183.25.broadband7.iol.cz [88.102.25.183]
ip78-36-59-147.onego.ru [78.36.59.147]
88-138-211-145.adslgp.cegetel.net [88.138.211.145]
host60-68-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [82.48.68.60]
devoid.swarmer.volia.net [77.122.191.135]
127.181.48.60.brk02-home.tm.net.my [60.48.181.127]
ABTS-tn-dynamic-192.3.164.122.airtelbroadband.in [122.164.3.192]
79-114-112-169.rdsnet.ro [79.114.112.169]
216.117.218.87.dynamic.jazztel.es [87.218.117.216]
65.pool85-56-77.dynamic.orange.es [85.56.77.65]
56.77-43-196.home.dhcp.dsm.ttcldata.net [196.43.77.56]
ip-89.171.43.3.crowley.pl [89.171.43.3]
abts-kk-dynamic-231.29.167.122.airtelbroadband.in [122.167.29.231]
adsl201-232-247-171.epm.net.co [201.232.247.171]
87-126-57-65.btc-net.bg [87.126.57.65]
athedsl-254471.home.otenet.gr [85.73.41.165]
89.0.103.222.dynamic.barak-online.net [89.0.103.222]
pool1-dsl177.conpoint.com [208.164.232.177]
host241-85-dynamic.7-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it [79.7.85.241]
91-65-70-78-dynip.superkabel.de [91.65.70.78]
194.101.235.77.dyn.idknet.com [77.235.101.194]
130.40.28.196.netactive.net [196.28.40.130]
66.83.65.114.nw.nuvox.net [66.83.65.114]
red-corp-201.143.5.180.telnor.net [201.143.5.180]
72-44-201-123.static.youtele.com [123.201.44.72]
117.subnet125-164-121.speedy.telkom.net.id [125.164.121.117]
devoid.swarmer.volia.net [77.122.191.135]
167.43.220.203.dial.dynamic.acc07-dryb-mel.comindico.com.au [203.220.43.167]
bas-flu-bbcs-dynip-197-110.vtx.ch [83.228.197.110]
187.108.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es [87.217.108.187]
213-35-142-133-dsl.jhv.estpak.ee [213.35.142.133]
mmredes-207-248-51-162.multimedios.net [207.248.51.162]
14.215-224-89.dsl.completel.net [89.224.215.14]
201.143.88.28.dsl.dyn.telnor.net [201.143.88.28]
207.pool85-49-98.dynamic.orange.es [85.49.98.207]
79-114-112-169.rdsnet.ro [79.114.112.169]
manz-590d3945.pool.einsundeins.de [89.13.57.69]
ppp11-pia64-mediafibre.com [217.119.186.12]
dsl-tn-dynamic-177.246.164.122.airtelbroadband.in [122.164.246.177]
c-24-99-77-139.hsd1.ga.comcast.net [24.99.77.139]
122.52.25.109.pldt.net [122.52.25.109]
athedsl-205554.home.otenet.gr [85.74.122.144]
57.53-225-89.dsl.completel.net [89.225.53.57]
prg2-v-5-150.static.adsl.vol.cz [88.146.7.150]
lesliealexander.plus.com [84.92.48.98]
pool-71-180-170-40.tampfl.fios.verizon.net [71.180.170.40]
187.9.202.62.fix.bluewin.ch [62.202.9.187]
nc-76-5-189-164.dhcp.embarqhsd.net [76.5.189.164]
234166.140203.hyogo.h555.net [203.140.166.234]
po-217-129-252-116.netvisao.pt [217.129.252.116]
ppp91-122-38-255.pppoe.avangard-dsl.ru [91.122.38.255]
171.pool85-53-142.dynamic.orange.es [85.53.142.171]
207.61.168.48

[botnets] Infection in progress

2007-07-16 Thread John Holan
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Hi
This is an extract from a monitoring log
The Time Zone is CET -9

I do have the executables, delivered to Virustotal.com



07-13-2007  14:58:55
;85.17.168.140:/svhost/main.php?status=mainstring
07-13-2007  14:58:56
;85.17.168.140:/main.php?status=mainstring
07-13-2007  14:59:08
;85.17.168.140:/svhost/main.php?status=iframes
07-13-2007  14:59:08
;80.237.211.63:/as_noscript.php?name=poolinstok
07-13-2007  14:59:09;85.17.168.140:/svhost/stats.php
07-13-2007  14:59:23;85.17.168.140:/install/wr-1-077.exe
07-13-2007  14:59:31;194.90.224.86:/retadpu.exe
07-13-2007  14:59:32;194.90.224.86:/retadpu.exe?c74c45f8
07-13-2007  14:59:32;194.90.224.86:/retadpu.exe
07-13-2007  15:03:29
;82.98.235.70:/443?sid=2D545A5A4F1F545B365C36593651505A363A0C1B1F000A0C4
939080A02495D4F0A000D54285A2A585D585C2F28282D595D585C5A285C2B5F2D5C5A515
E5C505D5B5F5D2D4F081D542F5E5E5F285C2A2A5A58512D58582D2A515F592C2F5F5E5A5
1502F2F2F2F2F2F4F131854584F1D1954594F080
07-13-2007  15:07:30
;194.126.193.157:/browser.php?a=143851525b=5c874145b8f9d9c82980c3baf610
c6ba90982d8256f158b94a3f274540ce72dcc=5003d=0e=--f=0g=30h=0i=0j=
242340
07-13-2007  15:08:20
;194.126.193.155:/nrjs/chk/2b1f7329e27dc7a57219f1db7e770aa9cb0c33ef0c686
bd877a515291a5a6d00
07-13-2007  15:08:20
;194.126.193.155:/nrjs/chk/2b1f7329e27dc7a57219f1db7e770aa9cb0c33ef0c686
bd877a515291a5a6d00
07-13-2007  15:08:20;207.68.183.32:/
07-13-2007  15:08:20;69.20.25.92:/GetAd/tekID58.ini
07-13-2007  15:08:20;69.20.25.92:/uttc/udata2.txt
07-13-2007  15:08:20
;8.255.51.252:/br/hp/en-us/css/26/override.css
07-13-2007  15:08:20
;8.255.51.252:/br/hp/en-us/css/20/ushp.css
07-13-2007  15:08:20;8.255.49.252:/br/hp/en-us/js/18/hptg.js
07-13-2007  15:08:21;69.20.25.92:/ax/tk58.exe
07-13-2007  15:08:24;193.189.93.14:/tmc/to.php?id=VSLYL
07-13-2007  15:08:24;69.20.25.92:/GetAd/tekID58.ini
07-13-2007  15:08:24;8.255.50.252:/library/dap.js



John


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[botnets] Infection in progress

2007-07-16 Thread John Holan
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Hi
Here comes another one (CET -9) 

===
07-16-2007  10:23:15
;208.67.65.11:/imp?z=0Z=0x0s=108276u=http%3A%2F%2Fisdnaccess.com%2Fr
=0y=28
07-16-2007  10:23:16
;208.67.65.11:/imp?z=0Z=0x0s=108276u=http%3A%2F%2Fisdnaccess.com%2Fr
=0y=28
07-16-2007  10:23:16
;208.67.65.11:/iframe3?APSmAQBeNQYAsDwCAAIAAP8CCwICAAL7uAEAm
4wDAACASZD-AEAAg
HrwUgxAG
56lOxSc5AKe4SUZXli3tEsci9A6we-iqjLlr
07-16-2007  10:23:16
;208.67.65.11:/iframe3?APSmAQBeNQYAsDwCAAIAAP8CCwICAAL7uAEAm
4wDAACASZD-AEAAg
HrwUgxAG
56lOxSc5AKe4SUZXli3tEsci9A6we-iqjLlr

===
Anybody translate ?

John
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Re: [phishing] Washington Mutual Bank US : Urgent Banking Service Email(fwd)

2007-06-06 Thread John Holan

Hi
Here comes the info
Look at the email address for techs.


Domain ID:D18267039-LRMS
Domain Name:MCMACCOY.INFO
Created On:05-Jun-2007 13:43:56 UTC
Last Updated On:05-Jun-2007 13:55:41 UTC
Expiration Date:05-Jun-2008 13:43:56 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Register.com (R140-LRMS)
Status:TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:6A01930D5CDF7C71
Registrant Name:Colin McMillan
Registrant Organization:Colin McMillan
Registrant Street1:402SanchezStreet
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:SanFrancisco
Registrant State/Province:CA
Registrant Postal Code:94114
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.4158124526
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Admin ID:6A01930D5CDF7C71
Admin Name:Colin McMillan
Admin Organization:Colin McMillan
Admin Street1:402SanchezStreet
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:SanFrancisco
Admin State/Province:CA
Admin Postal Code:94114
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.4158124526
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Billing ID:6A01930D5CDF7C71
Billing Name:Colin McMillan
Billing Organization:Colin McMillan
Billing Street1:402SanchezStreet
Billing Street2:
Billing Street3:
Billing City:SanFrancisco
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Re: [botnets] New Botnet or what

2006-10-11 Thread John Holan
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Symantec was my first one to try on the file, I run it through several at 
www.virustotal.com where I also left the file for distribution.
Symantec has still not included it in its AV definitions, even it is more than 
24 hours since I send it to them.
McAfee has the file listed since 5-23-06, so it is the same old story that the 
more secure the systems have become the fewer report to the AV vendors.
I think they need to get I little more aggressive themselves in using honeypots 
and so on.


John

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Hi
Killed a Trojan on a workstation that was constantly connecting to
66.197.216.149 on port 80
It uses filenames associated with Backdoor.Haxdoor but they are not
detected by any AV or Anti Spy ware software that I have tried.
Unfortunately I did not trap any of the traffic it generated only the
logs. And I am still analyzing them.
Any suggestions.

More info

192.168.10.119 Accessed URL
66.197.216.149:/Ffgj3dsw/bsrv.php?lang=ENUpal=0bay=0gold=0id=pa
ram=16661socksport=20454httpport=21219uptimem=51uptimeh=62uid=[5278
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What AV did you test with? Just curious.
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[botnets] Recall: New Botnet or what

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Re: Injecting custom code to the make install process?

2005-12-04 Thread Marcel Holan
On Sat, Dec 03, 2005 at 03:13:36PM +, Nick Ing-Simmons wrote:
 Or you could override install sub, call original and add your
 Makefile fragment: 
 
 package MY;
 
 sub install
 {
  my $self = shift;
  my $str = $self-MM::install(@_);
  $str .= MyStuff;
 ...
 MyStuff
  return $str; 
 }

Thanks for that info - I'll try it. Somehow I was not able to extract this
hint from the docs.


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Re: [biofuels-biz] Moderate Production System...

2003-05-15 Thread Ray Holan

Ben, we have a system running here in Cleveland, Ohio that can be assembled
very inexpensively.  We'd be happy to have you come up and visit and we'll
have you pitch in, make a batch, and see how the setup can be assembled back
home in WV.  Drop me a line at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

on 5/15/03 4:39 AM, Ben Shuman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello all
 
 I'm sure this question will be quite similar to other questions that have
 been answered many times in the past, but i'm new and don't hurt me ;)
 
 The eastern WV college which I attend is the owner of a 200 acre farm which
 is currently seeing little use. There is an initiative to use this availible
 land in ways which would be beneficial to the community both educationally
 and practically.  Current plans, assuming grant funding could be found, is
 to convert the entire farm into an example of what is possible
 agricultrually using green alternitives.  This includes converting the 1837
 farm house and barns to solar power, installing composting toilets,
 establishing an organic community farm, composting all vegetable matter from
 campus, maintaining a heritige vegitable garden and orchard, as well as a
 working examples of uses of alternitive fuels, mainly bio-diesel.
 
 As part of this latter goal, we would like for all the equipment to be using
 fuel from processed waste vegetible oil from the dinning halls on campus
 (expanding to other local sources as needed).  Since we would already be
 processing the oil and probably making more fuel than needed, we would like
 to make the excess availible to the community on a non-profit basis.
 
 If there is a resource availible which would detail how to make (or
 purchase) a system which could process a moderate amount of fuel (somewhere
 above 1000 Gal annually), please let me know.  With this information, we
 could start finding sources of funding for this aspect of the project.
 
 If you might know of any locations which might be willing to supply a grant
 to fund some part of this project (be it solar, biodiesel, composting,
 capital,  etc), that would also be appriciated. Thank you for your
 assistance.
 
 Ben Shuman


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Re: [biofuels-biz] Proposed Biodiesel Book

2002-08-16 Thread Ray Holan

on 8/15/02 8:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have seasonal work and often have a bit of a breather in the winter. I'm
 thinking of writing a book on biodesel production from waste fryer oil. It
 would cover all of the real information I've discovered in the past 5 years.
 The legal, environmental, financial, chemical, theoretical, and practical
 aspects of this small business would be covered. Its scope would be narrower
 than From the Fryer..., but would fill in many of the details that are not
 explained well there. I feel confident I can develop good information on how
 to start a small business doing this, and how to position that business in
 the world. I would call the book Yellow Biodiesel.
 
 This is a big project for me, and I don't take it on easily. Chelsea
 Green publishers say they are interested in publishing it. At this time I'm
 starting to look for a coauthor. I have no candidates in mind, mostly because
 I don't know anyone. You and Todd Swearington are the most knowledgable
 people I know, although I suspect there are others out there.
 
 I'm asking if you want to get involved in the project at any level? I
 defer to your superior knowledge in the chemistry, and probably you can write
 far gooder than I too. This is a couple of years long project,
 optimistically. I have the agreement of two other regional commercial small
 producers to be covered with their technologies in print. By the time the
 book comes out, there could be many other producers. This book would then be
 riding a wave of interest.
 
 I will have an outline in a few more weeks. I'm just looking for a day
 off. Let me know if you want more information.

Tom, I'd be interested in working with you on this.  However, I'd suggest we
do an article together first to see if we can work together well enough to
tackle the longer project.  What do you think?


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[biofuels-biz] Purinox Experience

2002-08-04 Thread Ray Holan

on 8/2/02 4:36 AM, Mike Johnston at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 I was only back for a few hours tonight but it was a very productive
 few hours. You see John Grill from the h2view list sent out some remarks
 on Biodiesel and it just so happens I had been fooling with the idea of
 producing a small scale biodiesel production unit a week ago. I went so
 far as to research it a bit and found that you can even produce your own
 vegetable oil with an oil press such as this one:
 http://www.oilpress.com/type55.htm
 But that is beside the point. Anyway, Jerry Decker on Keelynet posted
 a piece on the gunnerman patent tonight. This involved mixing diesel
 with water and a surfactant to produce a fuel for diesel engines.
 This combination of posts triggered my memory and I remembered that I
 was out to a refinery in Ohio last year where the company (Lubrizol) was
 manufacturing a product called PuriNOx, a mixture of diesel, water and a
 surfactant. They were running the resulting fuel/mixture as a fuel in
 busses in Cleveland with good results. A production technician that I
 talked to told me that the mix was 30% diesel, 70% water and the
 surfactant.
 http://www.lubrizol.com/PuriNOx/fueltechnology.htm

On the flip side, the local Metroparks system here in Cleveland, Ohio tested
this product and abandoned it.  I'm not sure of the why, but I'm sure they
used it, had problems and stopped using it.


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