Bug#687331: pulseaudio: plugging in headphones has no effect

2012-09-11 Thread Jon Dowland
Package: pulseaudio
Version: 2.1-2
Severity: normal

Hi,

_From time to time I experience the following but at the moment (and using
the latest from experimental) I'm getting it every time so felt like reporting.

Quite simply when plugging stereo headphones into the headphone jack on my
laptop (thinkpad x121e), sound continues to be emitted from the internal
speakers and not from the headphones.

I can work around this, most of the time, by switching hardware to Digital
Stereo (HDMI) output and plugging my headphones into my multimedia system
(which the laptop is plugged into via HDMI). However that's suboptimal for
various reasons and does not work on the move.


-- System Information:
Debian Release: wheezy/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (750, 'testing'), (600, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386

Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-3-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages pulseaudio depends on:
ii  adduser 3.113+nmu3
ii  consolekit  0.4.5-3
ii  libasound2  1.0.25-3
ii  libasound2-plugins  1.0.25-2
ii  libc6   2.13-33
ii  libcap2 1:2.22-1
ii  libdbus-1-3 1.6.0-1
ii  libfftw3-3  3.3.2-3
ii  libice6 2:1.0.8-2
ii  libltdl72.4.2-1.1
ii  liborc-0.4-01:0.4.16-2
ii  libpulse0   2.1-2
ii  libsamplerate0  0.1.8-5
ii  libsm6  2:1.2.1-2
ii  libsndfile1 1.0.25-5
ii  libspeexdsp11.2~rc1-6
ii  libsystemd-daemon0  44-3
ii  libsystemd-login0   44-3
ii  libtdb1 1.2.10-2
ii  libudev0175-3.1
ii  libx11-62:1.5.0-1
ii  libx11-xcb1 2:1.5.0-1
ii  libxcb1 1.8.1-1
ii  libxtst62:1.2.1-1
ii  lsb-base4.1+Debian7
ii  udev175-3.1

Versions of packages pulseaudio recommends:
ii  gstreamer0.10-pulseaudio  0.10.31-3
pn  pulseaudio-module-x11 none
pn  rtkit none

Versions of packages pulseaudio suggests:
pn  paman none
pn  paprefs   none
ii  pavucontrol   1.0-1
pn  pavumeter none
ii  pulseaudio-utils  2.1-2

-- no debconf information

___
pkg-pulseaudio-devel mailing list
pkg-pulseaudio-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-pulseaudio-devel


Re: Storage server

2012-09-11 Thread Jon Dowland
I would say that neither hardware nor software RAID are a replacement for
a working backup scheme.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120911094342.GA11893@debian



Re: Storage server

2012-09-11 Thread Jon Dowland
Denis' answer is very good, I won't re-iterate his points.

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 01:26:48PM +0200, Veljko wrote:
 Thanks for your valuable input. So, in case I have to backup lot of
 small files and only some of them are changed I should go with
 rsnapshot. If there are big text files that changes through time, I
 should go with rdiff-backup.

Actually, lots and lots of small files is the worst use-case for rsnapshot, and
the reason I believe it should be avoided. It creates large hard-link trees and
with lots and lots of small files, the filesystem metadata for the trees can
consume more space than the files themselves. Also performing operations that
need to recurse over large link trees (such as simply removing an old
increment) can be very slow in that case.

 Would it be reasonable to use them both where appropriate or thats just
 unnecessary complexity? 

Sounds like unnecessary complexity to me.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120911152922.GA2125@debian



Re: Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

2012-09-10 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 10:42:35PM +0200, Alessio Treglia wrote:
 OK,
 
 so let's go on picking 'gnome-osm-maps'.
 
 Thank you all folks!

No, one package in the archive with a misleading name doesn't mean
we should have more! See also: gnuplot, not related to GNU, and no
doubt many more.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120910092648.GA26700@debian



Re: Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

2012-09-10 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 06:45:42AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
 also sprach Luca Capello l...@pca.it [2012.09.09.2029 +0200]:
  Or, if this is tightened to OSM, 'gnome-osm-maps'.
 
 except the 'm' on osm is already a map, so maybe osm-client.

I like dropping 'gnome', and not doubling-up map, but osm may not
be clear enough to those who aren't intimately involved, how about
openstreetmap-client?


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120910092816.GB26700@debian



Re: Bug#687001: ITP: optional-dev -- fake (empty) dev package

2012-09-10 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 10:01:17PM +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
 When building for as many architectures as we have, situation when some 
 dependencies are missing (or can't exist) on some architectures is not rare.
 
 However we still want to build our packages with all features possible.

You should have two (or more) binary targets, each of which excludes the 
architecture(s) that do not support the particular feature. E.g. if baz is
not available on hurd:

Package: foo
Architecture: any !hurd
Build-Depends: bar libbaz-dev

(I forget the precise syntax for excluding an arch here)
and

Package: foo-hurd
Build-Depends: bar
Architecture: hurd

Or possibly in some circumstances

Package: foo-minimal
Build-Depends: bar
Architecture: any

…where foo without baz might be useful for someone on any architecture.

Explain the differences clearly in the package long description.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120910124617.GF26700@debian



Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

2012-09-10 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 06:45:42AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
 also sprach Luca Capello l...@pca.it [2012.09.09.2029 +0200]:
  Or, if this is tightened to OSM, 'gnome-osm-maps'.
 
 except the 'm' on osm is already a map, so maybe osm-client.

I like dropping 'gnome', and not doubling-up map, but osm may not
be clear enough to those who aren't intimately involved, how about
openstreetmap-client?


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org



Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

2012-09-10 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 06:45:42AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
 also sprach Luca Capello l...@pca.it [2012.09.09.2029 +0200]:
  Or, if this is tightened to OSM, 'gnome-osm-maps'.
 
 except the 'm' on osm is already a map, so maybe osm-client.

I like dropping 'gnome', and not doubling-up map, but osm may not
be clear enough to those who aren't intimately involved, how about
openstreetmap-client?


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-wnpp-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120910092816.GB26700@debian



Re: systemd

2012-09-10 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 09:12:35PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
   Lennart would not be able to easily push random crap to the kernel 
   upstream
   even if he tried to.  It is a very different situation from userland.
  
  How so? Do you believe Redhat, Fedora etc. ship anything Lennart writes 
  without
  any kind of review? Do you think he has carte blanche as part of his 
  employment
  to do whatever he wants?
 
 No.  And you are the one saying the above, not me.

I must be misinterpreting what you are saying. I believed you meant that Lennart
is able to push random crap into userland, whereas he is not capable of doing
so for the Kernel.  My counter-point was to indicate that the gateway to 
userland
was the distributions, and Lennart's userland contributions don't reach the 
users
without review from other human beings.

Which part did I get wrong?

 I also happen to have  zero tolerance to this kind of argument line.

Never assume malovence when incompetence adequately explains the situation.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120910102302.GC26700@debian



Re: Storage server

2012-09-10 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 06:49:45PM +0200, Veljko wrote:
   a) backup (backup server for several dedicated (mainly) web servers).
   It will contain incremental backups, so only first running will take a
   lot of time, rsnapshot

Best avoid rsnapshot. Use (at least) rdiff-backup instead, which is nearly
a drop-in replacement (but scales); or consider something like bup or obnam
instead.

   and will run from cron every day. Files that will be added later are
   around 1-10 MB in size. I expect ~20 GB daily, but that number can
   grow. Some files fill be deleted, other will be added.

If you want files to eventually be purged from backups avoid bup.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120910130747.GG26700@debian



Re: Storage server

2012-09-10 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 09:51:05PM +0200, lee wrote:
 Some people have argued it's even better to use software raid than a
 hardware raid controller because software raid doesn't depend on
 particular controller cards that can fail and can be difficult to
 replace. Besides that, software raid is a lot cheaper.

You also get transferrable skills: you can use the same tooling on different
systems.  If you have a heterogeneous environment, you may have to learn a
totally different set of HW RAID tools for various bits and pieces, which
can be a pain.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120910131115.GH26700@debian



Re: systemd

2012-09-08 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 04:06:08PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
 Kernel patches from Lennart were properly reviewed, and accepted only after
 the maintainers and subsystem maintainers approved them as an acceptable
 solution for the general problem they were supposed to be addressing.
 
 Lennart would not be able to easily push random crap to the kernel upstream
 even if he tried to.  It is a very different situation from userland.

How so? Do you believe Redhat, Fedora etc. ship anything Lennart writes without
any kind of review? Do you think he has carte blanche as part of his employment
to do whatever he wants?

He is a convenient scapegoat. It's absurd to avoid code he's written, and
reductio ad absurdum, it would be absurd to avoid the kernel.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120908093440.GA1917@debian



Re: Enabling uscan to simply remove files from upstream source

2012-09-07 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 05:18:57PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
 I also considered, but the information of what files are excluded when 
 creating
 the Debian source package is not relevant to upstream.
 
 More simply, I think that if debian/watch would radically change its format to
 YAML or the Debian control data file syntax, it would be a good place for the
 Files-Excluded field.

The copyright file is, as the name suggests, for copyright information.

The watch file is, as the name suggests, for watching for upstream releases.

Can we please just have a new file for a new purpose, rather than overloading
ones that are succinct, single-purpose and consistent?

We can then pick a syntax that fits the problem, rathen than trying to bend and
contort one that doesn't.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120907125431.GC4705@debian



Re: Bug#686903: RFP: pass -- the standard unix password manager

2012-09-07 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 04:11:25AM +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
 Subject: Re: Bug#686903: RFP: pass -- the standard unix password manager

I realise this text comes from upstream, but the standard unix password
manager is IMHO misleading for this program. A unix password manager is more
accurate. UNIX seems superfluous though, perhaps A password manager, or
something that describes the program, such as A command-line password manager.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120907125744.GD4705@debian



Re: What Version To Install On iMac?

2012-09-07 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 02:04:04AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 Interesting statement.  Squeeze (6) is still STABLE.  After Wheezy (7)
 is moved from TESTING to STABLE, Squeeze will be fully supported for at
 least 1 year.  Thus deprecated soon is not accurate, unless your
 definition of soon means 12 months or more.

Perhaps his definition of deprecated doesn't mean supported…


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120907122150.GB4705@debian



Re: systemd

2012-09-07 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 12:09:52PM -0300, francis picabia wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Ralf Mardorf
 ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
  In cases of doubt, I'm against using anythin coming from Lennart
  Poettering.

Odd, I can't find Ralph's mail in my d-u archive, was it a private one?
Anyway, replying here rather than there since I can't find it.

If you are determined to avoid Lennart's code, you're going to have to
stop running the Linux kernel:

 commit ebec18a6d3aa1e7d84aab16225e87fd25170ec2b
 Author: Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net
 Date:   Fri Mar 23 15:01:54 2012 -0700
 
 prctl: add PR_{SET,GET}_CHILD_SUBREAPER to allow simple process 
 supervision

and

 commit 52a85e17091d2fe9ade6a5d94063e70c5d2a9d5b
 Author: Lennart Poettering mzxre...@0pointer.de
 Date:   Thu Jun 4 16:18:13 2009 -0300
 
 V4L/DVB (11993): V4L/pwc - use usb_interface as parent, not usb_device

and don't worry, there are more, across many of the core kernel subsystems.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120907124732.GA29671@debian



Re: Discussion of uscan enhancement 1 (Was: uscan enhancement take 3: script hook)

2012-09-05 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 09:04:19AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
 the machine-readable format does not mention trailing slashes at the end
 of directory names, and refers to the -path test of the GNU find command,

Good. Having a trailing-slash be meaningful is very confusing. I especially
hate this with rsync, where I now use trailing-slash on dirs exclusively,
since I've memorized the behaviour when you do this and not when you don't.
It frustrates me because foo and foo/ might differ but they are both names
for the same thing - and the behaviour should not differ if the name for
the same thing differs IMHO.

 which will fail with trailing slashes.

I can understand why it would fail, since the argument to path is a pattern
rather than a filename, and it is compared against find's list of paths
which just so happen not to have trailing slashes. Having said that I wonder
if this behaviour could be considered buggy.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120905105227.GA31962@debian



Re: e2fsck errror: Error reading block (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read)

2012-09-05 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 11:39:37PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:
 You have to understand: You have to connect it to the controller
 directly OR You can not use what the SMART offers to You. That simple.

This is not actually true. Yes, the majority of USB hard drives do not support
SMART, but some do. See
http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/smartmontools/wiki/Supported_USB-Devices,
which tells me that lucky me, my WD Elements Desktop 2TB is supported.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120905124315.GB31962@debian



Re: Minified javascript files

2012-09-04 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 12:27:02PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
 1) We have the source for the parts that we ship in binary packages, 
 yes. We do not, however, necessarily have the actual source for the 
 minified files unused for binary packages yet redistributed by us in 
 source tarballs: Just as with autotools files we generally do not verify 
 that these files has same source as the source we instead use for our 
 binary packages.

That's true; however, it's a source of *potential* bugs, rather than
definitely a bug in every such package, which is an improvement on the
view that they violate the DFSG, where that would be the case.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120904194043.GA15040@debian



Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio

2012-09-04 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 09:59:19AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 Yes, pulseaudio needs ALSA. Note that pulseaudio is bad programmed

That's certainly an opinion, and perhaps a commonly-repeated one, but
an opinion non-the-less.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120904194312.GB15040@debian



Re: libsdl1.2-dev – Nolonger supports Color Ascii Ourput (libcaca) - WHY?!

2012-09-04 Thread Jon Dowland
Please note that you tried to submit a bug but didn't get the syntax right,
so it won't have worked.

On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 05:17:06AM -0700, Nzvr Salamon wrote:
 What the fuck? Why did you drop support for libcaca output.

Check the changelog. It reads:

libsdl1.2 (1.2.14-6.3) unstable; urgency=low
…
   * Remove support for libaa (there’s libcaca), libsvga (directfb
 supports more architectures) and libesd (pulseaudio does much more).
…

 You take away.
 Just because you don't like the name of the library.

That's very unlikely, seeing as the author of libcaca is Sam Hocevar, who
is also a Debian developer, and contributed to the SDL packaging as recently
as June 2012. (Again, check the changelog.)


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120904194649.GC15040@debian



Re: Advice about removing cruft?

2012-09-04 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Sep 03, 2012 at 03:23:21PM -0700, Weaver wrote:
 I find the packages 'cruft' and 'deborphan' work fairly well together.
 I find Bleachbit to be a little too militant.

All of the above will find packages that are not being used. But, packages that
are not being used are not loaded and thus not contributing towards system
instability. The OP needs to look at what is *running* and what they are
actively *using* to solve their issues issues.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120904194842.GD15040@debian



Re: tracker-miner, tracker-store, etc., was Why is Nautilus using 38% CPU?

2012-09-04 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sun, Sep 02, 2012 at 02:06:51PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote:
 I noticed that tracker is doing a lot .  How important is it?   Is
 it inadvisable to disable it?

It creates and manages search indexes. If you don't use desktop search,
disable or remove it.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120904195005.GE15040@debian



Re: xsesssion-errors

2012-09-03 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sat, Sep 01, 2012 at 01:40:50PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
 I have much egregious noise in that file.  It would be good if there
 was a campaign to clean it up.  But it is a distributed culture of
 sloppy programming over years that has contributed to it.  It would
 take a large effort to clean it up.

It might be worth proposing it as a release goal for wheezy+1/jessie.
I'd back it. (I might propose it.)  At the very least, adding a datestamp
and rotating the file from time to time would be more useful than the
current behaviour.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120903125723.GC6809@debian



Re: xsesssion-errors

2012-09-03 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 12:59:04AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
 So what now?

If the bug needs re-opening, unarchive it and reopen it:
http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control

Probably something like this to cont...@bugs.debian.org

  unarchive 617940
  reopen 617940
  thanks

It would be worth appending any additional information/testing to the
bug, once opened, to aid the maintainer.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120903152554.GD6809@debian



Re: Stuff from /bin, /sbin, /lib depending on /usr/lib libraries

2012-08-31 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:57:10PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
 On 08/31/2012 06:55 PM, Riku Voipio wrote:
  How is that different from having a botched / or /boot ? Why do you
  think having a separate /usr will make / less prone to HD crashes?
  You have / on RAID5 while /usr isn't?

 
 Typically, I have / on 2 small RAID1 partitions making the array on the
 first
 2 HDD (1 or 2 gigs), and /usr on a LVM on a much, much larger RAID array
 (I use mostly software RAID1 and RAID10, but in some cases, much bigger
 hardware RAID5). So yes, that's my usual server setup.
 
 Also, / is a partition on which almost nothing is read or written, while
 the others (eg: /usr, /var, /tmp, swap) are a lot more I/O intensive.
 Which means that / is less prone to failure. Often, the 2nd RAID
 array gets degraded, but / isn't. So it does make a lot of sense to
 setup things this way, and yes, / is less prone to HD crashes this
 way (I'm talking from 10 years of experience running about 100
 servers this way, so it's not just theory, it's very practical experience).

I'm struggling to understand this. In the situation you outline (/ ok,
/usr, /var, /tmp, swap on another RAID which is hosed) -- whatever service
the machine was offering is surely not being offered anymore (/ being too
small to be useful for anything except a rescue environment).  So / surviving
whilst all your services/data are dead doesn't seem to be a big win to me at
all. Am I missing a detail?


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120831150447.GD24379@debian



Re: Please help parsing file [sed, awk, fortran, bash]

2012-08-31 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 02:18:15AM +, Mark Blakeney wrote:
 On Fri, 31 Aug 2012 01:31:29 +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
  This exercise provides the impetus to learn to use a very useful tool,
  namely Perl.
 
 I would suggest python is a much better choice to a young person
 just starting out.

Seconded. I wrote some Perl yesterday, for the first time in a while.
I didn't miss it.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120831084656.GC17667@debian



Re: Please help parsing file [sed, awk, fortran, bash]

2012-08-31 Thread Jon Dowland
read ignore
read ignore
index=-1
while read line; do
  set -- $line
  index=$((index + 1))
  if [ $index != $1 ]; then
while [ $(($1 - $index)) -gt 0 ]; do
  echo $index 0
  index=$((index + 1))
done
  fi
  index=$1
  [ $index -le 1024 ] || break
  second=1
  shift
  [ $# -le 0 ] || second=$1
  echo $index $second
done


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120831090431.GD17667@debian



Re: [proposal] use xz compression for Debian package by default

2012-08-30 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 05:12:15PM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
 We are building a binary distribution which main characteristic is to have 
 the 
 packages built _rarely_. As such, a useful but CPU-expensive operation is 
 always worth it.

The situation is slightly different for Debian-native packages. In that case,
there's little value in not replacing the source PNGs with better-compressed
alternatives. (games-thumbnails is such a native package.)

 And if the package building infrastructure comes in your way by enforcing
 unneeded repeated builds, then the problem resides in the package building
 infrastructure.

Are we not required to provide a functional 'clean' target in our rules files?
Should these not remove files that were generated as part of the build process?


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120830124633.GA23881@debian



Re: [proposal] use xz compression for Debian package by default

2012-08-29 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 12:56:47PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
 Before wondering whether PNG files should have an additional
 compression level, is there any reason why a better PNG compression
 isn't used in the first place? For instance, optipng -o9 tries
 various parameters and keeps the best one.

So recompress upstream PNGs and suffix +dfsg to the source version? There might
be some disadvantages to this. If you are using VCS to manage the package, you
are probably carrying the upstream PNGs in that already, so there's an
appreciable increase in repository size to carry the optimized PNGs too.
Another approach could be to inject optipng into the build process and treat
the outputs like compiler output (packed into binary packages, thrown away on
clean), but then repeated builds could be CPU-expensive.   Perhaps getting
upstream to carry better-compressed PNGs in their next release is a good idea.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120829140143.GA22300@debian



Re: [proposal] use xz compression for Debian package by default

2012-08-29 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 03:17:15PM +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
 I don't think it's worth +dfsg, and CPU cycles will only be wasted once
 on the maintainer side, since most of PNGs are in arch:all packages anyway.

I used to hack on the games-thumbnails package a bit, which ran optipng as part
of the build stage and removed the results as part of the clean stage.¹ It used
to be quite a pain to run 'debuild' over and over, if you were making small,
iterative packaging changes, because the 'clean' target would be run. I suppose
I could have simply ran the build stage by hand repeatedly instead.

¹ It would appear that the package no longer does the remove stage, from a
  cursory glance at the rules file these days. This is no doubt a pragmatic
  decision, but one that might conflict with people's build expectations.)


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120829144701.GB22300@debian



Re: Enabling uscan to simply remove files from upstream source

2012-08-24 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:38:14PM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote:
 ...Or add the exclude list to a file called 'debian/watch'.

I struggle to see why. I suppose because uscan reads debian/watch, but
the point of that file is to document where to find upstream sources,
the name implies that, and putting lists of files to strip into it would
seem counter-intuitive to me.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120824083627.GA19780@debian



Bug#685747: gnome-shell: periodically, my mobile broadband connections are not visible

2012-08-24 Thread Jon Dowland
Package: gnome-shell
Version: 3.4.2-1
Severity: normal

Hi, from time to time my mobile broadband connections don't show up in the
networking drop-down menu. Instead I get auto broadband or words to that
effect.  If I go through those steps and set up a new connection, it works
fine.

However, on the occasions that gnome-shell is showing my broadband
connections, I have a lot of ones for the same thing (since I have to
set it up afresh a lot of the time):

 $ ls /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/T*
 /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/T-Mobile Default
 /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/T-Mobile 
 Default-0aede276-7992-4913-9dfb-79708225920c
 /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/T-Mobile 
 Default-16f2d7ce-a114-45c0-b95c-1690041a1e3d
 /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/T-Mobile 
 Default-1c6fe55e-ab23-4f80-b053-41fbd37ae9c9
 /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/T-Mobile 
 Default-24846f8f-d1d5-4f4b-8144-dd0f3c6b283f
 /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/T-Mobile 
 Default-41724791-dc83-4f15-8805-cd7302fc9ae0
 /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/T-Mobile 
 Default-81ef46fe-9ed8-43f6-91cb-169a7a98aba7
 /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/T-Mobile 
 Default-d42c90ad-6951-4607-b92d-a7046cb97ed6
 /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/T-Mobile 
 Default-d9206d9a-103d-4aff-aa64-f4fc4b9f9e90

I've discovered that restarting gnome-shell causes my existing connections
to show up again (via 'r' in the run menu).  Restarting network-manager
also works, but possibly only because gnome-shell also restarts (because
it segfaults):

 [69324.401923] gnome-shell[3896]: segfault at 40 ip 7f61d69f7b82 sp 
 7fff85876740 error 4 in libgnome-shell.so[7f61d69b3000+9b000]

I think the connections are missing more often than not when I come to use
them. I mostly try to use them on a train, so it might be related to resuming
from sleep, I'm not sure. I'll try to see if I can detect a pattern.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: wheezy/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (750, 'testing'), (600, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386

Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-3-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages gnome-shell depends on:
ii  dconf-gsettings-backend [gsettings-backend]  0.12.1-2
ii  gconf-service3.2.5-1
ii  gir1.2-accountsservice-1.0   0.6.21-6
ii  gir1.2-atk-1.0   2.4.0-2
ii  gir1.2-caribou-1.0   0.4.2-2
ii  gir1.2-clutter-1.0   1.10.8-1
ii  gir1.2-cogl-1.0  1.10.2-6
ii  gir1.2-coglpango-1.0 1.10.2-6
ii  gir1.2-folks-0.6 0.6.9-1+b1
ii  gir1.2-freedesktop   1.32.1-1
ii  gir1.2-gconf-2.0 3.2.5-1
ii  gir1.2-gcr-3 3.4.1-3
ii  gir1.2-gdesktopenums-3.0 3.4.2-1
ii  gir1.2-gdkpixbuf-2.0 2.26.1-1
ii  gir1.2-gee-1.0   0.6.4-2
ii  gir1.2-gkbd-3.0  3.4.0.2-1
ii  gir1.2-glib-2.0  1.32.1-1
ii  gir1.2-gmenu-3.0 3.4.2-3
ii  gir1.2-gnomebluetooth-1.03.4.2-1
ii  gir1.2-gtk-3.0   3.4.2-2
ii  gir1.2-json-1.0  0.14.2-1
ii  gir1.2-mutter-3.03.4.1-5
ii  gir1.2-networkmanager-1.00.9.4.0-5
ii  gir1.2-pango-1.0 1.30.0-1
ii  gir1.2-polkit-1.00.105-1
ii  gir1.2-soup-2.4  2.38.1-2
ii  gir1.2-telepathyglib-0.120.18.1-2
ii  gir1.2-telepathylogger-0.2   0.4.0-1
ii  gir1.2-upowerglib-1.00.9.17-1
ii  gjs  1.32.0-2
ii  gnome-bluetooth  3.4.2-1
ii  gnome-icon-theme-symbolic3.4.0-2
ii  gnome-settings-daemon3.4.2-3
ii  gnome-shell-common   3.4.2-1
ii  gnome-themes-standard3.4.2-1
ii  gsettings-desktop-schemas3.4.2-1
ii  libatk1.0-0  2.4.0-2
ii  libc62.13-33
ii  libcairo-gobject21.12.2-2
ii  libcairo21.12.2-2
ii  libcanberra0 0.28-4
ii  libclutter-1.0-0 1.10.8-1
ii  libcogl-pango0   1.10.2-6
ii  libcogl9 1.10.2-6
ii  libcroco30.6.5-1
ii  libdbus-1-3  1.6.0-1
ii  libdbus-glib-1-2   

Re: hibernate: swap on SSD = not fast

2012-08-24 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 01:42:45AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 This email mentions nothing of any troubleshooting performed by you up
 to this point.  It's sole purpose seems to be to blame me for what you
 apparently believe is a bad recommendation.

I read it very differently: veiled admiration and thanks for your expert
advice, and genuine surprise that things weren't working properly, with
a request for help in figuring out why. I'm in a very good mood right now
though, YMMV ☺


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120824084332.GB19780@debian



Re: compressor

2012-08-24 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 11:04:56AM +0200, Gaël DONVAL wrote:
 Le jeudi 23 août 2012 à 20:24 +0800, lina a écrit :
  
  Sorry, here you mean,
  
  once tar -Jcf a.tar.xz a
  
  again
  tar -Jcf a.tar.xz a.tar.xz
  ?
 No, I think this was a joke :)

Yes it was a joke :) but it was based on a recent article where someone
expressed surprise that multiple manual passes of a compressor (I think
gz) resulted in smaller file sizes. (I couldn't find a copy of the article
to link to)

 In most programs, there is a depth or pass number parameter that
 does just this already. If you try to compress again, the overhead
 induced by the container (headers and such) will ultimately increase the
 file size. 

Most compressors work on a block-cipher model in order to support stream
operation and so the compressor doesn't have a global view of the data being
compressed. That's why subsequent manual passes can (sometimes) have a good
effect, especially with e.g. enormous log files with a lot of repetition: local
areas of the file being compressed are treated in isolation, but the resulting
compressed blocks have a lot of (compressed!) repetition.  In practise it's
almost certainly very rarely worth bothering.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120824091035.GE19780@debian



Re: compressor

2012-08-24 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 02:26:25PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
 There is a problem with the mashing and reformatting.  It makes lzip
 appear to be 66M against xz being 65M and so xz is better, right?
snip
 It would be better to look at the long byte counts for this type of
 comparison.

You're right, that would be necessary to be accurate. An exercise left
for another reader!


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120824091145.GF19780@debian



Bug#657195: Client package descriptions unclear, multiple clients cause confusion

2012-08-23 Thread Jon Dowland
I think this could also be improved by removing the virtual package
'freeciv' (which has no reverse dependencies, lacks a description in
package managers by virtue of being a virtual package and is not in
the canonical list of virtual packages anyway[1], so seems to serve
no useful purpose) and replacing it with a metapackage which has a 
useful description and appropriate *dependencies* to install a usable
game. (That is, depends on server, not recommends.)  Then, the onus
would not necessarily be on the various client packages to explain
the whole situation themselves.

[1] http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/virtual-package-names-list.txt


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org



Re: compressor

2012-08-23 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 04:44:38PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
 Jon Dowland wrote:
  linux-3.6-rc2.tar.bz2  78M  
  linux-3.6-rc2.tar.gz   99M  
  linux-3.6-rc2.tar.xz   65M
   linux-3.6-rc2.tar.lz   66M
 
 I think lzip is worthy enough that it should have a mention too.  It
 has gotten less attention than xz and that is sad since it is a nice
 free software tool.  I recompressed that file using lzip for this
 comparison.

Thanks for the data (mashed/reformatted into quote above). I copied the
listings from the kernel.org archives, so the choice of compression types
was theirs (although I hadn't heard of lzip, thanks!)


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120823102436.GI10344@debian



Re: compressor

2012-08-23 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 03:43:24PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 21:40:36 +0800, lina wrote:
 
  Basically which compressor is the most efficient one.
 
 Ha, that's like asking what do clouds smell like? :-)

Remember to run your chosen compression algorithm at least twice!


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120823102607.GJ10344@debian



Re: Virtualbox 64 bit guest option is missing

2012-08-23 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 08:21:50PM +0200, Artifex Maximus wrote:
 Hello!
 
 Virtualbox on my Wheezy x86_64

Are you running both of

 • a 64bit kernel (I guess yes, given above)
 • the 64bit version of virtualbox (not the 32bit one on top of 64bit kernel)


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120823105854.GM10344@debian



Re: help with packaging (preinst scripts)

2012-08-22 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 02:54:44PM +0200, David Cho-Lerat wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I've done some RTFM, but can't yet find where the helper
 scripts to use in maintainer scripts (preinst/postrm/..) are
 described.
 
 How does one automate the following in the preinst scripts,
 for instance :
 
 1. create a user *and* set their password

You are best to explore an existing package which creates a user,
e.g. exim4. I believe it's a mostly manual process. Note that I don't know
of any Debian packages which actually set a user password… that doesn't
sound like a great idea. What are you doing?

See 
http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-exim4/exim/trunk/debian/exim4-config.postinst?view=markup
 around line 193

 193   if [ $1 = configure ] \
 194   ! getent passwd Debian-exim  /dev/null ; then
 195   echo 'Adding system-user for exim (v4)' 12
 196   adduser --system --group --quiet --home /var/spool/exim4 \
 197   --no-create-home --disabled-login --force-badname 
 Debian-exim
 198   fi

Note that this is the postinst rather than preinst.

 2. ssh-keygen with no user input (Enter passphrase)

Run ssh-keygen with no stdin (/dev/null or similar, I think works)

 3. add/edit some MySQL tables without knowing the MySQL root password

Urgh. This sounds uglier and uglier :)  Provide some SQL  to achieve what you
want in a file in the package, as a very first step. Make sure you've depended
on MySQL.  Will you know what the correct Database name will be? Can you 
guarantee
it will exist?

 I've fooled around with Expect for 1. and 2., and tried
 mysqld_safe --skip-grant-tables for 3., but I feel
 lame (and I have to have my preinst script stop/start the
 MySQL server during install) ..
 
 If I'm not asking the correct list, I'm sorry, but could you please
 direct me to the documentation I should read or other mailing list
 I should contact ?

debian-mentors for beginner packaging questions.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120822130557.GD10344@debian



Re: compressor

2012-08-22 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 04:24:19PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 16:15 +0200, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
  xz: tar Jcf
 
 I'm using a distro that packages with xz.
 
 I'm sure that there never was a big difference between
 gz: tar zcf and bzip2: tar jcf for the length of the files, but the
 time for packing and unpacking does differ very much. 

Indeed, bz2 is very slow. But it can be much better at compressing:

linux-3.6-rc2.tar.bz2  16-Aug-2012 22:01   78M  
linux-3.6-rc2.tar.gz   16-Aug-2012 22:01   99M  
linux-3.6-rc2.tar.xz   16-Aug-2012 22:01   65M


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120822145052.GE10344@debian



Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-20 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:58:42AM +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
 But if anyone would lobby that (release goal: default to CGI/FCGI),
 they'd have definitely my support :)

A bit late for wheezy, do you mean for +1?


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120820130646.GA28685@debian



Re: Anonymize very old Debian list posting?

2012-08-20 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 02:56:01PM +0200, Lukas Foljanty wrote:
 thanks for your reply. I must say, that I find that a rather questionable
 privacy policy. Like I was writing before, I don't mind the message itself to
 stay. But I do mind that my email address is visible to anybody. 
 Maybe I'm just unlucky for still using that same email address.

For what it's worth (perhaps not much): I'd advise focussing on having good
anti-spam defenses, rather than hiding your email address. I once read a
very well written argument to this effect, certainly better written than
I'm managing here, but by trying to limit exposure to your address, you
are making email less effective (making yourself less discoverable etc.)
which in some way is letting the spammers win.  We currently enjoy some
very effective anti spam technology which can vastly reduce the problem.
I personally can recommend 'crm114' (packaged in Debian) although setting
it up initially can be a bit tricky.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-www-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120820153429.GA31641@debian



Re: how to copy files from linux to windows via terminal

2012-08-20 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 09:04:27PM +0800, lina wrote:
 how to copy files from linux to windows via terminal.

The key issue is what method of access you are using to the Windows machine.
Windows file sharing is perhaps easiest, in which case you can copy stuff
via 'samba' on the Linux host. 'smbclient //wherever/foo, put some-file'


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120820131019.GB28685@debian



Re: Possible release note for systems running PHP through CGI.

2012-08-20 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:58:42AM +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
 But if anyone would lobby that (release goal: default to CGI/FCGI),
 they'd have definitely my support :)

A bit late for wheezy, do you mean for +1?


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-release-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120820130646.GA28685@debian



Re: Bug#685064: ITP: non-daw -- please package non-things

2012-08-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 11:19:23AM +0200, rosea grammostolla wrote:
 Subject: Re: Bug#685064: ITP: non-daw -- please package non-things
   ^

You've filed an ITP (I Intent To Package) but your subject reads more
like a Request For someone else to Package (RFP).  Can you clarify
which you meant?

 * Package name: non-daw
…
 The Non DAW…
 The Non Mixer…
 The Non Sequencer…
 The Non Session Manager…

The package name suggests you are packaging the DAW but the description
covers the other three things too and suggests to some extent that they
are separate. Would the mixer, sequencer and session manager be provided
in the same package, or in separate packages?


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120817082430.GA17970@debian



Re: Change default PATH for Jessie / wheezy+1

2012-08-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 04:41:35AM +0200, Ulrich Dangel wrote:
 On 08/08/12 04:11, Marco d'Itri wrote:
  Fedora did it a few months ago, so probably we should do it as well to 
  minimize the pain.
 
 As far as I know (based on 
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458176 /
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SbinSanity ) Fedora changed it in 2008.
 
 It seems that Ubuntu also has the sbin directories in PATH per default (via
 /etc/environment) since at least 2006.

In which case any pain we were likely to suffer has been suffered already,
so that's one fewer reason to make the change.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120817082705.GB17970@debian



Re: Change default PATH for Jessie / wheezy+1

2012-08-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 12:40:42PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
  Warning the user that they are using an obsolete tool is IMO entirely
  justified, particularly when there is a much better and more capable
  replacement.

And there's plenty of precedent:

$ ffmpeg
ffmpeg version 0.8.3-6:0.8.3-4, Copyright (c) 2000-2012 the Libav developers
  built on Jun 26 2012 09:26:41 with gcc 4.7.1
*** THIS PROGRAM IS DEPRECATED ***
This program is only provided for compatibility and will be removed in a 
future release. Please use avconv instead.

(even if the above is somewhat misleading)
And the wodim/cdrecord messages.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120817083717.GC17970@debian



Re: best filesystem for logical volume ?

2012-08-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 05:28:10PM +0530, J. B wrote:
 Is it better than ext4 and reiserfs ?

No.

(a more detailed answer may be provided with a more detailed description
of your requirements :))


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120817130818.GD17970@debian



Re: Bug#685042: ITP: libpam-ssh -- Authenticate using SSH keys

2012-08-16 Thread Jon Dowland
It would be nice if your initial upload would resolve the multiple issues
that were the cause for the package removal, rather than simply reintroduce
them.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120816083916.GA8134@debian



Re: node-like file conflicts

2012-08-15 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 01:00:38PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
 /usr/games is a swamp for another time I think.  I guess it contains
 an awful lot of things with clashing names.

Last I checked the latest FHS drafts removed /usr/games entirely, so the
morass might end up being dumped into /usr/bin at some point in the near
future, where they are promoted from $PATH conflicts to actual binary
conflicts.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120815131520.GA10037@debian



Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-26 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 01:55:06PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
 Jon Dowland writes (Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to 
 mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs 
 conflict)):
  On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:15:15AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
   We are in the process of discussing a variety of constitutional amendments
   to be raised by the tech-ctte that will hopefully end up creating a sort
   of bundle of constitutional fixes to vote on.  Perhaps it would be good to
   include in that a terminology standardization on member for the places in
   the constitution that we refer to voting project members rather than
   specifically people who upload software.
  
  Yes please!
 
 I am not in favour of this change.  The point about a Debian Developer
 is that the basis of their claim to the rights and responsibilities
 enumerated in the constitution, is that they help develop Debian.
 
 I don't think the word Developer implies that one can't develop
 Debian in other ways than by directly editing software.

The problem to solve is not that Developer implies a *limitation* of
responsibity for Developers; it's that non-packaging contributions are
not considered to carry the same value or esteem as traditional packaging.

I agree that 'developer' is a fine word to describe a valued contributor
to the project and does not — on its own — suggest packaging software,
but sadly the historical context does.

I'm not overly interested in the word developer being eradicated, but at
the very least having some consistency in Debian's documents would be
very welcome. ('New Maintainer' → route to 'Developer' vs. 'Debian
Maintainer' is another area of confusion).  Perhaps an entirely new set
of nouns should be chosen, free of historical baggage?


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120726130545.GB14409@debian



Re: RFC: Why are so many debian packages outdated?

2012-07-26 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:20:23AM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
 Svante Signell svante.sign...@telia.com writes:
  NMUs should be made/allowed/encouraged? I know all packaging is made by
  volunteers at their spare time, but anyway. Debian is one of the best
  distributions, what about raising the bar a little higher?
 
 The only way you can really improve the situation is to help with the
 packages.

I disagree.

Fundamentally the problem is lack of manpower. There are not enough
incoming people interested in addressing the problem (like Svante)
to make an appreciable difference if they dedicate their time soley
to packaging.

There is work to be done to make Debian attract more contributors.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120726130947.GC14409@debian



Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-25 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 12:15:15AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
 We are in the process of discussing a variety of constitutional amendments
 to be raised by the tech-ctte that will hopefully end up creating a sort
 of bundle of constitutional fixes to vote on.  Perhaps it would be good to
 include in that a terminology standardization on member for the places in
 the constitution that we refer to voting project members rather than
 specifically people who upload software.

Yes please!


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120725092339.GD14507@debian



Bug#682746: unblock: deutex/4.4.902-13

2012-07-25 Thread Jon Dowland
Package: release.debian.org 
Severity: normal
User: release.debian@packages.debian.org
Usertags: unblock
thanks

Please unblock package deutex.

Version 4.4.902-13 resolves an RC bug #682132 relating to
Recommends: on a package not in main.

Debdiff attached.


Thanks!
diff -u deutex-4.4.902/debian/changelog deutex-4.4.902/debian/changelog
--- deutex-4.4.902/debian/changelog
+++ deutex-4.4.902/debian/changelog
@@ -1,3 +1,10 @@
+deutex (4.4.902-13) unstable; urgency=low
+
+  * Recommend either boom-wad or doom-wad, since the latter is
+not satisfyable in main. Closes: #682132.
+
+ -- Jon Dowland j...@debian.org  Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:08:20 +0100
+
 deutex (4.4.902-12) unstable; urgency=low
 
   * Update control file to reflect new VCS location
diff -u deutex-4.4.902/debian/control deutex-4.4.902/debian/control
--- deutex-4.4.902/debian/control
+++ deutex-4.4.902/debian/control
@@ -14,7 +14,7 @@
 Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}
 Suggests: doom-engine
 Provides: doom-wad-editor
-Recommends: doom-wad
+Recommends: boom-wad | doom-wad
 Description: composition tool for doom-style WAD files
  DEU's Texture Companion (DeuTex) is a resource editor that
  can extract and insert graphics, sounds, levels and other


Re: wifi connect _FAILS_ - was [Re: FROZEN Wheezy netinst - Where to get?]

2012-07-25 Thread Jon Dowland
I'm 99% sure your difficulties are caused by missing wireless firmware.
If you can put the firmware-linux-nonfree* stuff onto a USB stick and
have that ready at install time you might get further.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120725092836.GE14507@debian



Re: replying to a thread on the list that is not in my inbox?

2012-07-25 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:32:53PM -0400, Nick Lidakis wrote:
 Thanks. It will bring up Icedove. How do I get that header info to Mutt?

Set mutt up to handle mailto: urls with something like 
http://mailtomutt.sourceforge.net/
or http://madduck.net/blog/2007.01.14:firefox-handing-mailto-links-to-mutt/


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120725092926.GF14507@debian



Bug#682746: unblock: deutex/4.4.902-13

2012-07-25 Thread Jon Dowland
Package: release.debian.org 
Severity: normal
User: release.debian@packages.debian.org
Usertags: unblock
thanks

Please unblock package deutex.

Version 4.4.902-13 resolves an RC bug #682132 relating to
Recommends: on a package not in main.

Debdiff attached.


Thanks!
diff -u deutex-4.4.902/debian/changelog deutex-4.4.902/debian/changelog
--- deutex-4.4.902/debian/changelog
+++ deutex-4.4.902/debian/changelog
@@ -1,3 +1,10 @@
+deutex (4.4.902-13) unstable; urgency=low
+
+  * Recommend either boom-wad or doom-wad, since the latter is
+not satisfyable in main. Closes: #682132.
+
+ -- Jon Dowland j...@debian.org  Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:08:20 +0100
+
 deutex (4.4.902-12) unstable; urgency=low
 
   * Update control file to reflect new VCS location
diff -u deutex-4.4.902/debian/control deutex-4.4.902/debian/control
--- deutex-4.4.902/debian/control
+++ deutex-4.4.902/debian/control
@@ -14,7 +14,7 @@
 Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}
 Suggests: doom-engine
 Provides: doom-wad-editor
-Recommends: doom-wad
+Recommends: boom-wad | doom-wad
 Description: composition tool for doom-style WAD files
  DEU's Texture Companion (DeuTex) is a resource editor that
  can extract and insert graphics, sounds, levels and other


[SCM] chocolate-doom: Doom engine closely-compatible with vanilla doom branch, master, updated. upstream/1.6.0-44-g7b07f29

2012-07-23 Thread Jon Dowland
The following commit has been merged in the master branch:
commit 2e9f925e89d9e57357cabb38414d497f6bc87e2f
Merge: c591cb04ab5839491a8885b8f622ec489bb18273 
8fa5f0b6d23fc7809f7cc675e324c89a6764a3fc
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Sat Jun 30 16:12:25 2012 +0100

Merge tag 'upstream/1.7.0'

Upstream version 1.7.0


-- 
chocolate-doom: Doom engine closely-compatible with vanilla doom

___
Pkg-games-commits mailing list
Pkg-games-commits@lists.alioth.debian.org
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-games-commits


[SCM] chocolate-doom: Doom engine closely-compatible with vanilla doom branch, master, updated. upstream/1.6.0-44-g7b07f29

2012-07-23 Thread Jon Dowland
The following commit has been merged in the master branch:
commit 3e7bf8fca285332c90f9211461fc3f4b1b633203
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Sat Jun 30 16:16:09 2012 +0100

remove unnecessary .desktop patch

diff --git a/debian/patches/fix_desktop-entry-uses-reserved-category.patch 
b/debian/patches/fix_desktop-entry-uses-reserved-category.patch
deleted file mode 100644
index 203e7c5..000
--- a/debian/patches/fix_desktop-entry-uses-reserved-category.patch
+++ /dev/null
@@ -1,10 +0,0 @@
-Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
-Description: shut up lintian's desktop-entry-uses-reserved-category
 chocolate-doom-1.6.0.orig/src/doom-screensaver.desktop.in
-+++ chocolate-doom-1.6.0/src/doom-screensaver.desktop.in
-@@ -9,4 +9,4 @@ StartupNotify=false
- Terminal=false
- Type=Application
- Categories=Screensaver
--
-+OnlyShowIn=GNOME;KDE;
diff --git a/debian/patches/series b/debian/patches/series
deleted file mode 100644
index 91a3564..000
--- a/debian/patches/series
+++ /dev/null
@@ -1 +0,0 @@
-fix_desktop-entry-uses-reserved-category.patch

-- 
chocolate-doom: Doom engine closely-compatible with vanilla doom

___
Pkg-games-commits mailing list
Pkg-games-commits@lists.alioth.debian.org
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-games-commits


[SCM] chocolate-doom: Doom engine closely-compatible with vanilla doom branch, pristine-tar, updated. 08a3f47d458224cee6df7598681b9d9e6dc280b4

2012-07-23 Thread Jon Dowland
The following commit has been merged in the pristine-tar branch:
commit 08a3f47d458224cee6df7598681b9d9e6dc280b4
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Sat Jun 30 16:12:25 2012 +0100

pristine-tar data for chocolate-doom_1.7.0.orig.tar.gz

diff --git a/chocolate-doom_1.7.0.orig.tar.gz.delta 
b/chocolate-doom_1.7.0.orig.tar.gz.delta
new file mode 100644
index 000..8b170ea
Binary files /dev/null and b/chocolate-doom_1.7.0.orig.tar.gz.delta differ
diff --git a/chocolate-doom_1.7.0.orig.tar.gz.id 
b/chocolate-doom_1.7.0.orig.tar.gz.id
new file mode 100644
index 000..3c4b561
--- /dev/null
+++ b/chocolate-doom_1.7.0.orig.tar.gz.id
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+893f6138cd6f4d7dee68fd20415db7ad66890ea3

-- 
chocolate-doom: Doom engine closely-compatible with vanilla doom

___
Pkg-games-commits mailing list
Pkg-games-commits@lists.alioth.debian.org
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-games-commits


[SCM] chocolate-doom: Doom engine closely-compatible with vanilla doom branch, master, updated. upstream/1.6.0-44-g7b07f29

2012-07-23 Thread Jon Dowland
The following commit has been merged in the master branch:
commit 7b07f29379e3aed633bcf1abc359c2acebb527aa
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Sat Jun 30 16:16:32 2012 +0100

record new upstream version

diff --git a/debian/changelog b/debian/changelog
index cbfe4fd..1125d07 100644
--- a/debian/changelog
+++ b/debian/changelog
@@ -1,8 +1,11 @@
-chocolate-doom (1.6.0-2) unstable; urgency=low
+chocolate-doom (1.7.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
 
+  * New upstream version.
+  * Remove debian/patches/fix_desktop-entry-uses-reserved-category.patch:
+no longer necessary.
   * Remove myself from uploaders.
 
- -- Jon Dowland j...@debian.org  Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:42:59 +
+ -- Jon Dowland j...@debian.org  Sat, 30 Jun 2012 16:13:20 +0100
 
 chocolate-doom (1.6.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
 

-- 
chocolate-doom: Doom engine closely-compatible with vanilla doom

___
Pkg-games-commits mailing list
Pkg-games-commits@lists.alioth.debian.org
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-games-commits


[SCM] chocolate-doom: Doom engine closely-compatible with vanilla doom tag, debian/1.7.0-1, created. upstream/1.7.0-43-g7b07f29

2012-07-23 Thread Jon Dowland
The tag, debian/1.7.0-1 has been created
at  7b07f29379e3aed633bcf1abc359c2acebb527aa (commit)

- Shortlog 
commit 7b07f29379e3aed633bcf1abc359c2acebb527aa
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Sat Jun 30 16:16:32 2012 +0100

record new upstream version
---

-- 
chocolate-doom: Doom engine closely-compatible with vanilla doom

___
Pkg-games-commits mailing list
Pkg-games-commits@lists.alioth.debian.org
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-games-commits


[SCM] chocolate-doom: Doom engine closely-compatible with vanilla doom annotated tag, upstream/1.7.0, created. upstream/1.7.0

2012-07-23 Thread Jon Dowland
The annotated tag, upstream/1.7.0 has been created
at  82a71d71528b4b0ff93a18f99a72b2e6efc6e825 (tag)
   tagging  8fa5f0b6d23fc7809f7cc675e324c89a6764a3fc (commit)
  replaces  upstream/1.6.0
 tagged by  Jon Dowland
on  Sat Jun 30 16:12:25 2012 +0100

- Shortlog 
Upstream version 1.7.0

Jon Dowland (1):
  Imported Upstream version 1.7.0

---

-- 
chocolate-doom: Doom engine closely-compatible with vanilla doom

___
Pkg-games-commits mailing list
Pkg-games-commits@lists.alioth.debian.org
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-games-commits


[SCM] Installer for game data files branch, jmtd/testsuite, created. 68db1d9d497e9df509476d0183fbc9d22c3b8dbb

2012-07-23 Thread Jon Dowland
The branch, jmtd/testsuite has been created
at  68db1d9d497e9df509476d0183fbc9d22c3b8dbb (commit)

- Shortlog 
commit 68db1d9d497e9df509476d0183fbc9d22c3b8dbb
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Fri Feb 26 13:40:32 2010 +

use external shunit2

commit d4c7618d63de5ea7209078f4eda69d10b9a28b5d
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Thu Dec 17 16:43:27 2009 +

insert gdp procedure docs into runtests

gleaned from lib/game-data-packager-shared, the
procedure documentation says what the procedures should do.
They are useful reference to write tests against, so insert
a copy of them into the runtests script. It also indicates
in one file which procedures have no tests written for them.

There is a risk the text will get out of sync with the text
in the actual procedure definitions...

commit 30dac8e68707b4f25b74440f0e8a642641e61b63
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Thu Dec 17 16:28:43 2009 +

test_slipstream

commit 44a190906453979a8a1bf2e04ccd5acaae61a690
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Thu Dec 17 16:20:12 2009 +

add unit test for die

commit e0bcc7eacb80636a7801e472cedfb9823621d77d
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Thu Dec 17 12:01:35 2009 +

fold md5sum tests into shunit2 script

commit cd058e9980e4e5b608b28e3cc43a16176cc8e0ae
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Thu Dec 17 11:57:41 2009 +

roll directory tests into shunit2 script

commit c47d790ea4726274f5af091870e50b003a82
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Tue Jun 19 17:55:54 2012 +0100

recast tests for shunit2

commit 34821a68e3f93c2018b3586cad6cd3d39bc1ab44
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Tue Dec 15 16:44:08 2009 +

noddy tests for verify_file

commit a54a90311b5e3cce3c409ae0bd2b3ebf131782ad
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Tue Dec 15 16:41:53 2009 +

noddy tests for verify_directory

commit 2d1bf96683405e6cb2f1e9217527b5987dc7254c
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Tue Dec 15 16:13:26 2009 +

condense test

commit 799f6cae5645f98162771496585c456092f29ce6
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Tue Dec 15 16:08:57 2009 +

initial ghetto test harness

---

-- 
Installer for game data files

___
Pkg-games-commits mailing list
Pkg-games-commits@lists.alioth.debian.org
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-games-commits


[SCM] Installer for game data files branch, jmtd/suggested-merge, created. beeaba81cbdcf827cac7516a278eb42a2451f5b9

2012-07-23 Thread Jon Dowland
The branch, jmtd/suggested-merge has been created
at  beeaba81cbdcf827cac7516a278eb42a2451f5b9 (commit)

- Shortlog 
commit beeaba81cbdcf827cac7516a278eb42a2451f5b9
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Tue Jun 19 10:34:47 2012 +0100

support lhasa as an lha implementation

commit e80c2b9839c77323fd2330ca66de1dbabdd7a020
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Tue Jun 19 10:31:00 2012 +0100

add/correct clean lines for heretic and hexen

commit b1cea45aadfc3ef082125df7aced7c1b0476501a
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Tue Jun 19 09:12:32 2012 +0100

document changes

commit e76b58a4721b255934b4294d25b37bceb33542d0
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Tue Jun 19 09:10:07 2012 +0100

Rewrite rules file to use 'dh'

bump standards version and dh version

commit e6116bd396add4fa023a1f8d2a003c32b99de40d
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Tue Jun 19 09:07:25 2012 +0100

Hexen support

commit afad93f17a847012bcffda3041e41a571067ca26
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Tue Jun 19 09:03:35 2012 +0100

don't pass GAME argument to heretic

---

-- 
Installer for game data files

___
Pkg-games-commits mailing list
Pkg-games-commits@lists.alioth.debian.org
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-games-commits


Accepted deutex 4.4.902-13 (source amd64)

2012-07-20 Thread Jon Dowland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA256

Format: 1.8
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:08:20 +0100
Source: deutex
Binary: deutex
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 4.4.902-13
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Games Team pkg-games-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Description: 
 deutex - composition tool for doom-style WAD files
Closes: 682132
Changes: 
 deutex (4.4.902-13) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Recommend either boom-wad or doom-wad, since the latter is
 not satisfyable in main. Closes: #682132.
Checksums-Sha1: 
 62f9d8e23ca10adcbb72f9b8ac933d95333b876f 1875 deutex_4.4.902-13.dsc
 e0ab6e2322c3a2eb445e8a317b3f1f62165ba8fa 4940 deutex_4.4.902-13.diff.gz
 c9ccac827ffb328e1697a8a9b8e7263f69118e1d 192904 deutex_4.4.902-13_amd64.deb
Checksums-Sha256: 
 1e93be46ddf7703aacbbab5ade1297086d4a6e70ee004116b46d7ee43b693fe3 1875 
deutex_4.4.902-13.dsc
 07a696c3c14d0bc7a646941833dd0e11e13f7a33d24e32e690fdef9ce4844455 4940 
deutex_4.4.902-13.diff.gz
 a72c8cd56815d83d372ee7ca8be0e52e6ac57e022d15dfc4b9b617c9332cb6e8 192904 
deutex_4.4.902-13_amd64.deb
Files: 
 196e6475b786126bf28fa9780ef039a3 1875 games optional deutex_4.4.902-13.dsc
 7e80afbbb5fe9983e18467c27c9693f0 4940 games optional deutex_4.4.902-13.diff.gz
 f9100c57868a4d035a45755face15fb5 192904 games optional 
deutex_4.4.902-13_amd64.deb

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux)
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=jf7r
-END PGP SIGNATURE-


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-changes-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e1ssfta-0007va...@franck.debian.org



Bug#682132: deutex: recommends doom-wad, which is only in non-free

2012-07-20 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 09:26:32AM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
 Am 19.07.2012 19:53, schrieb Ivo De Decker:
 Please lower this recommends to a suggests.
 
 Since deutex is also used to contruct the freedom iwads, maybe the
 recommends could get changed into freedoom | freedm | doom-wad.
 Then deutex would fulfill the criteria to have its recommends
 satisfied by packages in main.

doom-wad | boom-wad might be a bit more concise (freedoom and freedm
Provides: boom-wad).  I think the 'strength' needs to stay at Recommends:.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org



[SCM] deutex: composition tool for doom-style WAD files tag, debian/4.4.902-13, created. upstream/4.4.902-12-gf54c780

2012-07-20 Thread Jon Dowland
The tag, debian/4.4.902-13 has been created
at  f54c780327ee878b858022f0d62966f0d924c3c7 (commit)

- Shortlog 
commit f54c780327ee878b858022f0d62966f0d924c3c7
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Fri Jul 20 17:08:49 2012 +0100

Revert remove myself from uploaders

This reverts commit 503db659fa3e071867f73ff57216fbe06a6a32d9.

Conflicts:

debian/changelog
---

-- 
deutex: composition tool for doom-style WAD files

___
Pkg-games-commits mailing list
Pkg-games-commits@lists.alioth.debian.org
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-games-commits


[SCM] deutex: composition tool for doom-style WAD files branch, master, updated. upstream/4.4.902-12-gf54c780

2012-07-20 Thread Jon Dowland
The following commit has been merged in the master branch:
commit f54c780327ee878b858022f0d62966f0d924c3c7
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Fri Jul 20 17:08:49 2012 +0100

Revert remove myself from uploaders

This reverts commit 503db659fa3e071867f73ff57216fbe06a6a32d9.

Conflicts:

debian/changelog

diff --git a/debian/changelog b/debian/changelog
index f9651dc..feeaf21 100644
--- a/debian/changelog
+++ b/debian/changelog
@@ -1,10 +1,9 @@
 deutex (4.4.902-13) unstable; urgency=low
 
-  * Remove myself from uploaders.
   * Recommend either boom-wad or doom-wad, since the latter is
 not satisfyable in main. Closes: #682132.
 
- -- Jon Dowland j...@debian.org  Fri, 20 Jul 2012 12:11:30 +0100
+ -- Jon Dowland j...@debian.org  Fri, 20 Jul 2012 17:08:20 +0100
 
 deutex (4.4.902-12) unstable; urgency=low
 
diff --git a/debian/control b/debian/control
index d0544fe..34e17a1 100644
--- a/debian/control
+++ b/debian/control
@@ -2,6 +2,7 @@ Source: deutex
 Section: games
 Priority: optional
 Maintainer: Debian Games Team pkg-games-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
+Uploaders: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
 Build-Depends: debhelper (= 7.0.0), quilt
 Standards-Version: 3.9.1
 Vcs-Git: git://git.debian.org/git/pkg-games/deutex.git

-- 
deutex: composition tool for doom-style WAD files

___
Pkg-games-commits mailing list
Pkg-games-commits@lists.alioth.debian.org
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-games-commits


[SCM] deutex: composition tool for doom-style WAD files branch, master, updated. upstream/4.4.902-12-gf54c780

2012-07-20 Thread Jon Dowland
The following commit has been merged in the master branch:
commit 79dc270fe43e448d5f32979cb6f726f6e12d0a31
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Fri Jul 20 17:03:42 2012 +0100

reconcile VCS against released package

diff --git a/debian/README.source b/debian/README.source
new file mode 100644
index 000..ea0f703
--- /dev/null
+++ b/debian/README.source
@@ -0,0 +1,2 @@
+See /usr/share/doc/quilt/README.source for an explanation of how
+this package manages patches.
diff --git a/debian/changelog b/debian/changelog
index d2f6acd..613ef92 100644
--- a/debian/changelog
+++ b/debian/changelog
@@ -9,8 +9,9 @@ deutex (4.4.902-12) unstable; urgency=low
   * Update control file to reflect new VCS location
   * add misc:Depends to quieten lintian
   * bump standards version
+  * add a README.source
 
- -- Jon Dowland j...@debian.org  Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:02:07 +0100
+ -- Jon Dowland j...@debian.org  Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:03:44 +0100
 
 deutex (4.4.902-11) unstable; urgency=low
 

-- 
deutex: composition tool for doom-style WAD files

___
Pkg-games-commits mailing list
Pkg-games-commits@lists.alioth.debian.org
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-games-commits


[SCM] deutex: composition tool for doom-style WAD files branch, master, updated. upstream/4.4.902-12-gf54c780

2012-07-20 Thread Jon Dowland
The following commit has been merged in the master branch:
commit 195cdb738dd3b40af953c16677e2ef7ceedf2c34
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Fri Jul 20 12:16:32 2012 +0100

Revert bump standards version

This reverts commit e1d013017eebb38048fa382904b61edefc307b4c.

The patch was too gratuitous.

bump standards version

diff --git a/configure b/configure
index aef2088..c8642cb 100755
--- a/configure
+++ b/configure
@@ -466,7 +466,7 @@ echo build directory is $BUILDDIR
 #
 if expr $PREFIX : '//*usr/*$' /dev/null
 then
-  BINDIR=/usr/games
+  BINDIR=/usr/bin  # FHS-ly correct is /usr/games
   ETCDIR=/etc/$APPNAME/%v
   ETCDIRNV=/etc/$APPNAME
   MANDIR=/usr/share/man
@@ -509,17 +509,17 @@ echo generating Makefile
   echo # DO NOT EDIT -- generated by ./configure
   echo
   echo AWK   = $AWK
-  echo BINDIR= \$(DESTDIR)/$BINDIR
+  echo BINDIR= $BINDIR
   echo CC= $CC
   echo CFLAGS= $CFLAGS
-  echo ETCDIR= \$(DESTDIR)/$ETCDIR | sed s/%v/$VERSION/g
-  echo ETCDIRNV  = \$(DESTDIR)/$ETCDIRNV
+  echo ETCDIR= $ETCDIR | sed s/%v/$VERSION/g
+  echo ETCDIRNV  = $ETCDIRNV
   echo HAVE_INTTYPES = $HAVE_INTTYPES
   echo HAVE_SNPRINTF = $HAVE_SNPRINTF
   echo LDFLAGS   = $LDFLAGS
-  echo MANDIR= \$(DESTDIR)/$MANDIR
-  echo SHAREDIR  = \$(DESTDIR)/$SHAREDIR | sed s/%v/$VERSION/g
-  echo SHAREDIRNV= \$(DESTDIR)/$SHAREDIRNV
+  echo MANDIR= $MANDIR
+  echo SHAREDIR  = $SHAREDIR | sed s/%v/$VERSION/g
+  echo SHAREDIRNV= $SHAREDIRNV
   echo
   cat Makefile.in
 ) Makefile
diff --git a/deutex.6 b/deutex.6
index 7f95b36..9818dd3 100644
--- a/deutex.6
+++ b/deutex.6
@@ -3,8 +3,8 @@
 .\ DeuTex incorporates code derived from DEU 5.21 that was put in the
 .\ public domain in 1994 by Rapha�l Quinet and Brendon Wyber.
 .\ 
-.\ DeuTex is Copyright \(co 1994-1995 Olivier Montanuy,
-.\   Copyright \(co 1999-2005 Andr\o\(aae Majorel.
+.\ DeuTex is Copyright � 1994-1995 Olivier Montanuy,
+.\   Copyright � 1999-2005 Andr� Majorel.
 .\ 
 .\ This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it
 .\ under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the
@@ -533,7 +533,7 @@ overridden by \fB\-main\fP, \fB\-doom\fP and friends.
 .SH BUGS
 See \fBTODO\fP.
 .SH LEGAL
-DeuTex is copyright \(co 1994-1995 Olivier Montanuy, copyright \(co 1999-2005 
Andr\o\(aae
+DeuTex is copyright � 1994-1995 Olivier Montanuy, copyright � 1999-2005 Andr�
 Majorel.
 .PP
 Most of this program is GPL'd but some of it is available under other licenses.
@@ -551,7 +551,7 @@ Allansson c91peral=und+ida+liu+se, James Bonfield
 mark.mathews=channel1+com and Chuck Rossi.
 The original manual was written by Kevin McGrail hevkev=sfo+com.
 .PP
-As of version 4 (1999), the maintainer is Andr\o\(aae Majorel
+As of version 4 (1999), the maintainer is Andr� Majorel
 URL:http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/.
 .PP
 Questions and bug reports should be sent to the current maintainer, \fInot\fP
diff --git a/src/deutex.c b/src/deutex.c
index 20d8a50..ddf6210 100644
--- a/src/deutex.c
+++ b/src/deutex.c
@@ -1118,17 +1118,6 @@ int main (int argc, char *argv_non_const[])
 }
}
if (! gotit)
-   {
-for (w = wads; *w != NULL; w++)
-{
-  if (MakeFileName (MainWAD, /usr/share/games/doom, , , *w, 
wad) == TRUE)
-  {
-gotit = 1;
-break;
-  }
-}
-   }
-   if (! gotit)
  ProgError (AA18,
  Can't find any of doom.wad, doom2.wad, doompres.wad,
   heretic.wad, hexen.wad, strife1.wad);
diff --git a/src/log.c b/src/log.c
index bbf0fc8..795c03a 100644
--- a/src/log.c
+++ b/src/log.c
@@ -40,10 +40,10 @@ int lopen (void)
 {
   if (logfp == nolog)
 return 1;
-  if (logfp == NULL || logfp == nolog)
+  if (logfp == NULL)
   {
 logfp = fopen (logfile, w);
-if (logfp == NULL || logfp == nolog)
+if (logfp == NULL)
 {
   /* Can't use Warning(), we would loop. */
   fflush (stdout);
@@ -65,7 +65,7 @@ int lopen (void)
  */
 void lputc (char c)
 {
-  if (logfp == NULL || logfp == nolog)
+  if (logfp == NULL)
 return;
   fputc (c, logfp);
   fflush (logfp);  /* We don't want a segfault to truncate the log */
@@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ void lputc (char c)
  */
 void lputs (const char *str)
 {
-  if (logfp == NULL || logfp == nolog)
+  if (logfp == NULL)
 return;
   fputs (str, logfp);
   fflush (logfp);  /* We don't want a segfault to truncate the log */
@@ -91,7 +91,7 @@ void lprintf (const char *fmt, ...)
 {
   va_list list;
 
-  if (logfp == NULL || logfp == nolog)
+  if (logfp == NULL)
 return;
   va_start (list, fmt);
   vlprintf (fmt, list);
@@ -104,7 +104,7 @@ void lprintf (const char *fmt, ...)
  */
 void vlprintf (const char *fmt, va_list list)
 {
-  if (logfp == NULL || logfp

[SCM] deutex: composition tool for doom-style WAD files branch, master, updated. upstream/4.4.902-12-gf54c780

2012-07-20 Thread Jon Dowland
The following commit has been merged in the master branch:
commit 4400c0996edfe8a112839e3334545b61a0649fb9
Author: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Date:   Fri Jul 20 12:15:29 2012 +0100

recommend boom-wad or doom-wad

diff --git a/debian/changelog b/debian/changelog
index 613ef92..f9651dc 100644
--- a/debian/changelog
+++ b/debian/changelog
@@ -1,8 +1,10 @@
 deutex (4.4.902-13) unstable; urgency=low
 
   * Remove myself from uploaders.
+  * Recommend either boom-wad or doom-wad, since the latter is
+not satisfyable in main. Closes: #682132.
 
- -- Jon Dowland j...@debian.org  Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:42:33 +
+ -- Jon Dowland j...@debian.org  Fri, 20 Jul 2012 12:11:30 +0100
 
 deutex (4.4.902-12) unstable; urgency=low
 
diff --git a/debian/control b/debian/control
index 45bd96b..d0544fe 100644
--- a/debian/control
+++ b/debian/control
@@ -13,7 +13,7 @@ Architecture: any
 Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}
 Suggests: doom-engine
 Provides: doom-wad-editor
-Recommends: doom-wad
+Recommends: boom-wad | doom-wad
 Description: composition tool for doom-style WAD files
  DEU's Texture Companion (DeuTex) is a resource editor that
  can extract and insert graphics, sounds, levels and other

-- 
deutex: composition tool for doom-style WAD files

___
Pkg-games-commits mailing list
Pkg-games-commits@lists.alioth.debian.org
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-games-commits


Bug#682132: deutex: recommends doom-wad, which is only in non-free

2012-07-20 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 09:26:32AM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
 Am 19.07.2012 19:53, schrieb Ivo De Decker:
 Please lower this recommends to a suggests.
 
 Since deutex is also used to contruct the freedom iwads, maybe the
 recommends could get changed into freedoom | freedm | doom-wad.
 Then deutex would fulfill the criteria to have its recommends
 satisfied by packages in main.

doom-wad | boom-wad might be a bit more concise (freedoom and freedm
Provides: boom-wad).  I think the 'strength' needs to stay at Recommends:.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org



Re: Have NetworkManager disabled by default when... (was: Recommends for metapackages)

2012-07-18 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 03:31:37PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
 Still, the check would be useful on laptops where wicd is installed
 and enabled (the user could have a default ifupdown config and wicd
 enabled).

What happens if neither wicd nor network-manager are installed, and then both
are installed at the same time?


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120718143523.GA20771@debian



Re: DM application of gustavo panizzo

2012-07-17 Thread Jon Dowland
Hi,

I'd like to advocate Gustavo Panizzo as a Debian Maintainer.

I've been working with Gustavo since late 2011 on the 'vavoom'
package.  Gustavo is the primary maintainer of this package, I
have merely reviewed and uploaded his packages. I have not had
to offer more than a handful of hints and tips along the way:
Gustavo has picked up the necessary skills by himself. Vavoom 
is by no means a trivial package, either: the Debian package
is carrying four patches already.

I am confident that Gustavo has the skills necessary for a
maintainer.

(since we're past a month since Gustavo's message to -newmaint,
here it is again for context):

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 08:29:55PM -0300, gustavo panizzo gfa wrote:
 This is my declaration of intent to become a Debian Maintainer
 URL:http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMaintainer.
 
 I have read the Social Contract, Debian Free Software Guidelines and
 Debian Machine Usage Policy and agree with all of them.
 
 Currently, I maintain the package vavoom 
 and I'm part of the pkg-games team. 
 
 My GnuPG key 9F6C6333 is signed by the Debian Developers Margarita
 Manterola ma...@debian.org and Maximiliano Curia m...@debian.org
 
 I look forward to becoming a Debian Maintainer. Thanks for your
 attention.
 
 -- 
 1AE0 322E B8F7 4717 BDEA  BF1D 44BB 1BA7 9F6C 6333
 




signature.asc
Description: Digital signature


Re: multiple ftp servers

2012-07-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 02:41:41PM +0300, Anan Zaaa wrote:
 I have proftp installed and want to install pureftp on a different port for
 custom usage.

Why?  Perhaps an alternative would be to run two proftp instances. Would that
meet your needs?


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120717131214.GC13895@debian



Re: Recommends for metapackages

2012-07-12 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 11:25:05PM +, Sune Vuorela wrote:
 for the 1-2% of people who has weird needs.

It's this proportion which I think is not consistent, nor agreed, amongst all 
developers.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120712125919.GD11211@debian



Re: Recommends for metapackages

2012-07-11 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 04:39:10PM +, Sune Vuorela wrote:
 On 2012-07-10, Gergely Nagy alger...@balabit.hu wrote:
  No. Only if installing recommends is turned on, which cannot be
  guaranteed.
 
 There is many ways to break your system. turning off installation of
 recommends is one of them.

If turning off recommends leads to a broken system, then there's a serious
bug somewhere, and it isn't the user.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120711103854.GA11211@debian



Re: Recommends for metapackages

2012-07-11 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 08:51:32AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
 Broken as in partially working because there are expected features missing
 is the _very_ definition of not installing a recommended package.
 
 Now, broken as in doesn't work at all for any use case would be a bug,
 yes.

I don't disagree with you, and I think that this largely boils down to
expectations management. Doesn't work at all is easier to define and agree
upon than doesn't work as I expected, and I think maintainers have
widely-differing interpretations of how to use Recommends: as a result.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120711125013.GB11211@debian



Re: N-M: Depends-Recommends (was: Re: duplicates in the archive)

2012-07-10 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Jul 09, 2012 at 11:13:16PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
 and also, as Philipp Kern noticed before, things that use N-M to
 distinguish between online and offline modes will think they're offline
 after uninstalling N-M until they are restarted.

You get this even with n-m installed, if n-m isn't managing your connection.
So for example I have n-m configured for wifi and 3g connections, but
ignoring my ethernet connection, so I can use a bridged setup.  Various
desktop apps misbehave in minor ways: pidgin as already mentioned; chrome
reports unable to connect to Internet instead of more nuanced failures such
as no such site, etc.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120710084754.GB24054@debian



Re: firewall

2012-07-06 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 05:39:47PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
 On Mi, 04 iul 12, 15:16:10, Jon Dowland wrote:
  
  Except on Debian you are required to do a fair amount of work to make
  your rules persistent across reboots and ensure you get ordering right
  to not lock yourself out of the box (if remote): all problems that
  do not exist if you install and use ufw.
 
 apt-cache show iptables-persistent

I didn't know about that - about time someone did it!

My point still stands though, since this is not out-of-the-box. Also read
the long description:

 Since this is aimed at experienced administrators, there is no configuration
 wizard.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120706144747.GB10959@debian



Bug#680447: pmud: init script problems, interferes with mediatomb

2012-07-05 Thread Jon Dowland
Package: pmud
Version: 0.10-12
Severity: important

Setting up pmud (0.10-12) ...
update-rc.d: using dependency based boot sequencing
insserv: warning: script 'pmud' missing LSB tags and overrides
insserv: There is a loop between service mediatomb and pmud if stopped
insserv:  loop involving service pmud at depth 2
insserv:  loop involving service mediatomb at depth 1
insserv: Stopping pmud depends on mediatomb and therefore on system facility 
`$all' which can not be true!
insserv: exiting now without changing boot order!
update-rc.d: error: insserv rejected the script header
dpkg: error processing pmud (--configure):
 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
configured to not write apport reports
  Errors were encountered while processing:
 pmud
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


-- System Information:
Debian Release: 6.0.4
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (750, 'testing'), (700, 'stable'), (500, 'stable-updates')
Architecture: powerpc (ppc)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-powerpc
Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages pmud depends on:
ii  hdparm9.39-1+b1  tune hard disk parameters for high
ii  libc6 2.11.3-3   Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib

Versions of packages pmud recommends:
ii  powermgmt-base1.31   Common utils and configs for power
ii  powerpc-utils 1.1.3-24   Various utilities for Linux/PowerP

pmud suggests no packages.

-- no debconf information



-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org



Re: firewall

2012-07-05 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 04:52:10PM -0400, Brad Alexander wrote:
 Excellent points, Joe. In addition, Windows was designed from the ground up
 as a single-user operating system, which means that all of the files on a
 system were accessible by the user.

This is not true for the NT-based Windows systems, i.e. all of them released in
the last 11 years.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120705123653.GA32553@debian



Re: firewall

2012-07-05 Thread Jon Dowland

Your reply (the text/plain portion) was completely illegible I'm afraid. Please
refrain from sending HTML mail.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120705123811.GB32553@debian



Re: procmail filtering

2012-07-05 Thread Jon Dowland
You can run procmail in filter mode and pipe it each mail that you wish to
filter individually, but you must keep track of which mails have been piped to
procmail and remove them/mark them 'processed' yourself, via shell scripts etc.

Make sure your procmail recipe(s) deliver to a sensible location.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120705124158.GC32553@debian



Re: GPG - secret key not available?

2012-07-05 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 06:52:30PM +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:
 gpg: skipped Csanyi Pal csanyi...@gmail.com: secret key not available
 gpg: [stdin]: clearsign failed: secret key not available

Please include the command you actually typed.

  (note also that if you are just starting to play around, it would be
  worth generating a much stronger key. Read
  http://keyring.debian.org/creating-key.html to find out how)
 
 I generated such a strong key.

What is the key-id?

 Still I get the message as abowe:
 secret key not available

Please include the command you actually typed.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120705124355.GD32553@debian



Re: firewall

2012-07-04 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 10:53:00AM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote:
 On 7/4/12 10:46 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
  Web base Firewall (IPCOP) very powerful with the addon called BOT
  (block out traffice) base on IPtables.
 
 In some ways it's easier just to work with IPtables directly.

Except on Debian you are required to do a fair amount of work to make
your rules persistent across reboots and ensure you get ordering right
to not lock yourself out of the box (if remote): all problems that
do not exist if you install and use ufw.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120704141610.GA10717@debian



Re: GPG - secret key not available?

2012-07-03 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Jul 03, 2012 at 04:51:09PM +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I did run the
 gpg --gen-key
 
 command and I have the secret key:
 
 gpg -K
 /home/csanyipal/.gnupg/secring.gpg
 --
 sec   2048D/CD3E2F9A 2012-07-01
 [snip]
 
 I exported this key in both 
 ~/.bashrc
 and
 ~/.xinitrc
 
 files.

I suspect that's what you are doing wrong; you should export the public half
rather than the secret. It's the public half which is used by others to verify
your sigs.

(note also that if you are just starting to play around, it would be worth
generating a much stronger key. Read http://keyring.debian.org/creating-key.html
to find out how)


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120703150550.GA24385@debian



Re: Bridging eth0/br0 NetworkManager - can they coexist?

2012-07-03 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 11:47:29PM +0100, Chris Davies wrote:
 Steve Dowe s...@warpuniversal.co.uk wrote:
  The issue I'm having, using wheezy, is that if I set up a bridged
  ethernet interface for eth0 (br0), as per instructions on the Debian
  wiki etc, NetworkManager can no longer manage my wired ethernet connection.
 
 You can't do that  :-(
 
 If you need a bridge (like I do), AFAIK the only two solutions are:
 
 - uninstall network manager and return to using /etc/network/interfaces
 - add the missing code to network manager

You don't need to remove NM. I have it managing my wifi and 3G connections,
but manage eth0 via ifupdown (and attach it to a bridge).


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120703150751.GB24385@debian



Accepted chocolate-doom 1.7.0-1 (source amd64)

2012-06-30 Thread Jon Dowland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA256

Format: 1.8
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 16:13:20 +0100
Source: chocolate-doom
Binary: chocolate-doom
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 1.7.0-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Games Team pkg-games-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Description: 
 chocolate-doom - Doom engine closely-compatible with vanilla doom
Changes: 
 chocolate-doom (1.7.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * New upstream version.
   * Remove debian/patches/fix_desktop-entry-uses-reserved-category.patch:
 no longer necessary.
   * Remove myself from uploaders.
Checksums-Sha1: 
 32aea13619e7b7182cd5d2a2aadcf15cc06d1c89 2073 chocolate-doom_1.7.0-1.dsc
 63b50618d6101ab191224f9fa7a8bea30ad2d872 1091798 
chocolate-doom_1.7.0.orig.tar.gz
 15a575ee769a9081297438a9d6f5afcef30db0ef 5700 
chocolate-doom_1.7.0-1.debian.tar.gz
 5f58f3aab13c2cded1c867cea3992ba6bafc89c2 483074 
chocolate-doom_1.7.0-1_amd64.deb
Checksums-Sha256: 
 d821e1f453158a86760546cf721fe82d49e8d255cd8065897f697d984aa9c6e6 2073 
chocolate-doom_1.7.0-1.dsc
 c1cffb602e3cc3a82941b4675b9dc816a6e419076faf8f54db46df397f86bfc0 1091798 
chocolate-doom_1.7.0.orig.tar.gz
 5a4f986c6b2ed25030866e1f57602cb756e0f8e0e5f1cc0dca61534205ccd89d 5700 
chocolate-doom_1.7.0-1.debian.tar.gz
 40e1caffdf33ab0ca7e950441c3656161cc927d7add5f77cf6b21ee8d68c1a06 483074 
chocolate-doom_1.7.0-1_amd64.deb
Files: 
 ad13b966ec978bf21b042c86aa914d0d 2073 contrib/games optional 
chocolate-doom_1.7.0-1.dsc
 c0a8b240e5c1db9fc1d4772ed6669fda 1091798 contrib/games optional 
chocolate-doom_1.7.0.orig.tar.gz
 b90b37a33f91c74ab90891b749394b7a 5700 contrib/games optional 
chocolate-doom_1.7.0-1.debian.tar.gz
 9bf59bbd3c3626843a3862ea7d93f7aa 483074 contrib/games optional 
chocolate-doom_1.7.0-1_amd64.deb

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux)
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=eKwS
-END PGP SIGNATURE-


Accepted:
chocolate-doom_1.7.0-1.debian.tar.gz
  to contrib/c/chocolate-doom/chocolate-doom_1.7.0-1.debian.tar.gz
chocolate-doom_1.7.0-1.dsc
  to contrib/c/chocolate-doom/chocolate-doom_1.7.0-1.dsc
chocolate-doom_1.7.0-1_amd64.deb
  to contrib/c/chocolate-doom/chocolate-doom_1.7.0-1_amd64.deb
chocolate-doom_1.7.0.orig.tar.gz
  to contrib/c/chocolate-doom/chocolate-doom_1.7.0.orig.tar.gz


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-changes-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e1sl0oe-00074h...@franck.debian.org



Accepted game-data-packager 30 (source all)

2012-06-30 Thread Jon Dowland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA256

Format: 1.8
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 08:59:11 +0100
Source: game-data-packager
Binary: game-data-packager
Architecture: source all
Version: 30
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Games Team pkg-games-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Changed-By: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Description: 
 game-data-packager - Installer for game data files
Closes: 640372
Changes: 
 game-data-packager (30) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Add support for ID Anthology's Final Doom (different
 sums).  Thanks to Simon Howard.
   * Remove myself from uploaders.
   * Fixed 'clean' target in Makefile
   * Thanks to Joey Schmit:
 * Rewrote debian/rules to use new style debhelper
 * Bump standards version.
 * Update debhelper Build-Depends
 * Changed GAME for Heretic to 'doom' (Closes: #640372)
 * Add Hexen support
   * Support using 'lhasa' as an lha implementation.
Checksums-Sha1: 
 b1765a66d8e2536a1f28d2a335f7f9c9d31c863b 1765 game-data-packager_30.dsc
 b97456845abdd4fb2de3b7d6043330f4649ccb41 31963 game-data-packager_30.tar.gz
 3dfea6a5dcc1a09d8d760e18fc381d9f372cf152 114742 game-data-packager_30_all.deb
Checksums-Sha256: 
 712d53159ce41daf94c38accdadf6f6557b24dcf89c5c856d320fe73b2082ad6 1765 
game-data-packager_30.dsc
 e84384e204f50a877b348daf519b956c07c20c69a9c41fb8cee78085418d9c30 31963 
game-data-packager_30.tar.gz
 ad2bb4f650596dffddb9753aba358c1e20765f0cca209906716e493df2846a1b 114742 
game-data-packager_30_all.deb
Files: 
 005f4d0200ed84cd75daa3fb2cd1f9a3 1765 contrib/games optional 
game-data-packager_30.dsc
 7a325e067b55540b2cae3ebc0d9b27fd 31963 contrib/games optional 
game-data-packager_30.tar.gz
 186a15c46767c45e556c6cda424515d5 114742 contrib/games optional 
game-data-packager_30_all.deb

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux)
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=ZmvF
-END PGP SIGNATURE-


Accepted:
game-data-packager_30.dsc
  to contrib/g/game-data-packager/game-data-packager_30.dsc
game-data-packager_30.tar.gz
  to contrib/g/game-data-packager/game-data-packager_30.tar.gz
game-data-packager_30_all.deb
  to contrib/g/game-data-packager/game-data-packager_30_all.deb


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-changes-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e1sl0u9-0007nj...@franck.debian.org



Re: Improving our response to duplicate packages in Debian

2012-06-29 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 05:28:45AM +, Bart Martens wrote:
 I'm not convinced that the recent additions to the wiki page reflect consensus
 in this debate.  But I appreciate your attempt to summarize this debate on 
 that
 wiki page.  Maybe we should revert the recent changes on that wiki page until
 there is a more explicit consensus in this debate.  My impression is that
 consensus is growing towards what Guus wrote.  But this impression may be
 colored by the fact that I happen to agree with what Guus wrote.

Rather than revert, I'd suggest summarizing the positions where there isn't
consensus.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120629082237.GB30194@debian



Accepted acpidump 20100513-3.1 (source amd64)

2012-06-29 Thread Jon Dowland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA256

Format: 1.8
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:38:27 +0100
Source: acpidump
Binary: acpidump
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 20100513-3.1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Mattia Dongili malat...@debian.org
Changed-By: Jon Dowland j...@debian.org
Description: 
 acpidump   - utilities to dump system's ACPI tables to an ASCII file
Closes: 601165
Changes: 
 acpidump (20100513-3.1) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * Non-maintainer upload.
   * Fix mistaken reference to stdin in the manpage.
 Closes: #601165.
Checksums-Sha1: 
 ee4596071887e1a1623ecdcdd27a1eb0f7525c29 1705 acpidump_20100513-3.1.dsc
 ee7dc7cca12365f4fd6e03701264377838058466 4483 
acpidump_20100513-3.1.debian.tar.gz
 8d6d74c4b1df5a078e87289c6452f56ca3d67a4a 20482 acpidump_20100513-3.1_amd64.deb
Checksums-Sha256: 
 f174afd63f9c424b63e81a70077a26bfcb2d5ae631b1f0360b72610edefa60b3 1705 
acpidump_20100513-3.1.dsc
 4cffcacf9ca06c5ea8c6d9c032eaa1dcfb4d06a50fb6d717fe89e56cb1822a57 4483 
acpidump_20100513-3.1.debian.tar.gz
 042368c8e7f5b41ecbc66f60ddc0e0b6c91cbdd88c6d1acfcbc30af4c8856fc5 20482 
acpidump_20100513-3.1_amd64.deb
Files: 
 136f91771396bd2bd10c5e5aee3d617f 1705 admin optional acpidump_20100513-3.1.dsc
 6ad67acc02b5a2c67fb8f7b7b3fbd1dd 4483 admin optional 
acpidump_20100513-3.1.debian.tar.gz
 c1437c651da2a39382db840fd1d3e446 20482 admin optional 
acpidump_20100513-3.1_amd64.deb

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux)
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=sIzQ
-END PGP SIGNATURE-


Accepted:
acpidump_20100513-3.1.debian.tar.gz
  to main/a/acpidump/acpidump_20100513-3.1.debian.tar.gz
acpidump_20100513-3.1.dsc
  to main/a/acpidump/acpidump_20100513-3.1.dsc
acpidump_20100513-3.1_amd64.deb
  to main/a/acpidump/acpidump_20100513-3.1_amd64.deb


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-changes-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e1skx5g-0003xe...@franck.debian.org



Bug#677246: goobox: diff for NMU version 3.0.1-1.1

2012-06-29 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 09:49:23AM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
 I just got a bunch of e-mails that the build fails on (almost?) any
 arch. Could you please investigate?

Sure - I'd happily do so. But:

   * Revert broken NMU, closes: #679313.
   * This reopens: #677246. Since no bug report until just before the release
 happend, people requiring this fix will need to backport goobox after the
 release of Wheezy. Sorry.

This is a shame, because FTBFS bugs are RC, and uploads fixing them are
accepted as freeze exceptions.  If you'd given me time to fix it, then
that wouldn't have been a problem. Fixing the musicbrainz issue is not
automatically acceptable as a freeze exception. (I would have looked
at this yesterday, but there was a massive flood where I live and I was
stranded for hours.)




-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org



Re: Improving our response to duplicate packages in Debian

2012-06-28 Thread Jon Dowland
I really like these suggestions.


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120628160643.GB11366@debian



Bug#679247: perhaps the linked id3 library is the problem

2012-06-28 Thread Jon Dowland
I'm not expert on id3 libraries but it looks like libid3-3.8.3c2a is pretty
much unmaintained (unacknowledged patches for 7+ years) whilst
http://packages.debian.org/sid/libid3tag0 claims  full support for reading
ID3v1, ID3v1.1, ID3v2.2, ID3v2.3, and ID3v2.4 tags, as well as support for
writing ID3v1, ID3v1.1, and ID3v2.4 tags.

A solution might be moving to the other library.  Is upstream dead?




-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org



Bug#601165: acpidump: diff for NMU version 20100513-3.1

2012-06-28 Thread Jon Dowland
tags 601165 + patch
tags 601165 + pending
thanks

I've just uploaded an NMU to DELAYED/1.
diff -Nru acpidump-20100513/debian/acpidump.1 acpidump-20100513/debian/acpidump.1
--- acpidump-20100513/debian/acpidump.1	2010-11-13 06:16:01.0 +
+++ acpidump-20100513/debian/acpidump.1	2012-06-28 09:39:13.0 +0100
@@ -60,7 +60,7 @@
 only dump table with DSDT signature
 .TP
 .B \-o, \-\-output filename
-redirect output from stdin to filename
+redirect output from stdout to filename
 .TP
 .B \-b, \-\-binary
 dump data in binary form rather than in hex\-dump format
diff -Nru acpidump-20100513/debian/changelog acpidump-20100513/debian/changelog
--- acpidump-20100513/debian/changelog	2010-11-13 06:16:01.0 +
+++ acpidump-20100513/debian/changelog	2012-06-28 09:39:07.0 +0100
@@ -1,3 +1,11 @@
+acpidump (20100513-3.1) unstable; urgency=low
+
+  * Non-maintainer upload.
+  * Fix mistaken reference to stdin in the manpage.
+Closes: #601165.
+
+ -- Jon Dowland j...@debian.org  Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:38:27 +0100
+
 acpidump (20100513-3) unstable; urgency=low
 
   * Do not build madt as it was dropped upstream.


Re: Where does Debian define/specify standard bundles?

2012-06-28 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 04:42:44PM +0100, Keith McKenzie wrote:
 If you want tasksel, it is part of the Debian install process. the
 regular (Debian suggested) desktop environment is Gnome, but you can
 choose between Gnome, KDE, XFCE, or LXDE on installation.

I think he does want tasksel, but it's not really part of the install
process, it's merely called by the install process. I believe the tasksel
maintainers have recently moved to a model where their tasks (bundles) are
now simply packages - Here is a list of all binary packages provided by
the source tasksel package in sid:

http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/tasksel


-- 
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120628161449.GC11366@debian



<    1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9   10   >