Bug#545688: debian-policy: Include webapps policy in external sub-policy documents

2009-09-15 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 11:34:46PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 Would you like to take a crack at pulling out the normative
  parts of that manual, perhaps with a wee bit of rationale, and see
  where we stand?
 

That would be great, thanks!

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Re: An possible update for proftpd in lenny

2009-09-09 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 11:53:41AM +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote:
 As reflected in http://bugs.proftpd.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3284 upstream
 has recently fixed a long standing issue in proftpd which negatively
 impacts its performances. I would be inclined to propose a PU but
 I'd like having an ok by SRMs before working on it...
 

The patch in the bug report seems simple enough, please go ahead.

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Bug#545688: debian-policy: Include webapps policy in external sub-policy documents

2009-09-08 Thread Neil McGovern
Package: debian-policy
Severity: wishlist

Hi policy folks,

We've now got to the stage where we seem to have a good webapps policy
in place, and would like to have it included in policy main as a
'sub-policy' document.

For reference, it's at
http://webapps-common.alioth.debian.org/draft/html/

Thanks,
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Bug#545688: debian-policy: Include webapps policy in external sub-policy documents

2009-09-08 Thread Neil McGovern
Package: debian-policy
Severity: wishlist

Hi policy folks,

We've now got to the stage where we seem to have a good webapps policy
in place, and would like to have it included in policy main as a
'sub-policy' document.

For reference, it's at
http://webapps-common.alioth.debian.org/draft/html/

Thanks,
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Bug#545471: [pkgreport.cgi] Support gpg/pgp signature checking

2009-09-07 Thread Neil McGovern
Package: bugs.debian.org
Severity: wishlist

It may be a neat feature to check application/pgp-signature attachments
to see if they verify (possibly for keys in the keyring) and indicate
this somehow, perhaps by a coloured hinting of pre class=headers.

Thanks!
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Re: GRUB 2 (Re: Bits from the release team: Release goals, schedule, state of the union)

2009-09-04 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:32:20AM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
 GRUB 2 should be the default bootloader on x86.
 

Hi,

Could you fill in a goal page similar to ones in
http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals?

Thanks,
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Re: udev and /usr

2009-09-01 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 04:47:54PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
 Le mardi 01 septembre 2009 à 15:36 +0100, Chris Jackson a écrit : 
  Well, /etc needs to be on /, since otherwise you can't get to fstab to 
  mount it, and generally things like /etc/hostname will be different, so, 
  while I suppose it's theoretically possible, I'd take it also to be 
  somewhat sub-optimal.
 
 Ever heard of DHCP ?
 

Do we only support network configuration with DHCP now?

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Bug#491615: audacious: Not only on amd64...

2009-08-25 Thread Neil McGovern
Package: audacious
Version: 1.5.1-4
Followup-For: Bug #491615

Seems that this is still present in i386:
nmcgov...@nmcgovern:~$ gdb audacious 
GNU gdb 6.8-debian
Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later
http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.  Type show
copying
and show warranty for details.
This GDB was configured as i486-linux-gnu...
(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/bin/audacious 
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[New Thread 0xb72436b0 (LWP 31071)]
[New Thread 0xb7096b90 (LWP 31074)]
amidi-plug(amidi-plug.c:amidiplug_init:97): init, read configuration
amidi-plug(i_backend.c:i_backend_load:107): loading backend
'/usr/lib/audacious/Input/amidi-plug/ap-alsa.so'
amidi-plug(i_backend.c:i_backend_load:145): backend
/usr/lib/audacious/Input/amidi-plug/ap-alsa.so (name 'alsa')
successfully loaded
[New Thread 0xb56ccb90 (LWP 31075)]
[New Thread 0xb3aa1b90 (LWP 31076)]

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[Switching to Thread 0xb72436b0 (LWP 31071)]
0x08087e41 in playlistwin_set_sinfo_font (font=0x8fb1d88 FALSE) at
ui_playlist.c:311
311 ui_playlist.c: No such file or directory.
in ui_playlist.c
(gdb) bt
#0  0x08087e41 in playlistwin_set_sinfo_font (font=0x8fb1d88 FALSE) at
ui_playlist.c:311
#1  0x080883e8 in playlistwin_create () at ui_playlist.c:1374
#2  0x0809a505 in init_skins (path=0x8fb1dc0
/usr/share/audacious/Skins/Default) at ui_skin.c:527
#3  0x0805ca31 in main (argc=1, argv=0xbfe7d5b4) at main.c:756

Please also find attached the playlist file.

Neil

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Debian Release: 5.0.2
  APT prefers stable
  APT policy: (500, 'stable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.26-2-686 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages audacious depends on:
ii  audacious-plugins   1.5.1-2  Base plugins for audacious
ii  dbus1.2.1-5+lenny1   simple interprocess messaging syst
ii  gtk2-engines-pixbuf 2.12.12-1~lenny1 Pixbuf-based theme for GTK+ 2.x
ii  libatk1.0-0 1.22.0-1 The ATK accessibility toolkit
ii  libaudclient1   1.5.1-4  audacious dbus remote control libr
ii  libaudid3tag1   1.5.1-4  audacious id3 tag manipulation lib
ii  libc6   2.7-18   GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii  libcairo2   1.6.4-7  The Cairo 2D vector graphics libra
ii  libdbus-1-3 1.2.1-5+lenny1   simple interprocess messaging syst
ii  libdbus-glib-1-20.76-1   simple interprocess messaging syst
ii  libglib2.0-02.16.6-2 The GLib library of C routines
ii  libgtk2.0-0 2.12.12-1~lenny1 The GTK+ graphical user interface 
ii  libice6 2:1.0.4-1X11 Inter-Client Exchange library
ii  libmcs1 0.7.1-1  Abstraction library to store confi
ii  libmowgli1  0.6.1-1  a high performance development fra
ii  libpango1.0-0   1.20.5-5 Layout and rendering of internatio
ii  libsamplerate0  0.1.4-1  audio rate conversion library
ii  libsm6  2:1.0.3-2X11 Session Management library
ii  libx11-62:1.1.5-2X11 client-side library

Versions of packages audacious recommends:
ii  audacious-plugins-extra   1.5.1-2Various extra plugins for audaciou
ii  unzip 5.52-12De-archiver for .zip files

audacious suggests no packages.

-- no debconf information


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Bug#491615: Wrong email

2009-08-25 Thread Neil McGovern
And that previous message was me, but it seems I didn't set the eamil
correctly...

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Re: Summary of the debian-devel BoF at Debconf9

2009-08-19 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 07:28:09PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
 Bernhard R. Link brl...@debian.org writes:
 
  Perhaps there is a way to […] discourage all meta-discussion or
  mentioning of fallacy, ad-hominem or strawman on the other
  lists.
 
 Perhaps you have a better way of succinct terms to use when challenging
 those logical fallacies? Surely you're not saying you want such
 fallacies to go unchallenged in the forums where they appear?
 

Please find below a form which I hope you find useful:

Dear _NAME_,

It appears to me that you have a logical fallacy, in your message
_MSGID_. This first occurs on line _LINENUM_.

 [ ] argumentum ad antiquitatem
 [ ] argumentum ad hominem
 [ ] argumentum ad ignorantiam
 [ ] argumentum ad logicam
 [ ] argumentum ad misericordiam
 [ ] argumentum ad nauseam
 [ ] argumentum ad numerum
 [ ] argumentum ad populum
 [ ] argumentum ad verecundiam
 [ ] circulus in demonstrando
 [ ] complex question
 [ ] dicto simpliciter
 [ ] naturalistic fallacy
 [ ] nature, appeal to
 [ ] non sequitur
 [X] petitio principii
 [ ] post hoc ergo propter hoc
 [ ] red herring
 [ ] slippery slope
 [ ] straw man
 [ ] tu quoque

Replies to have been set to debian-devel-prime. This is the same list as
debian-devel, but adds a X-Prime: 1 counter which increments with each suffix
of -prime. Thus meta-meta-meta discussions are sent to
debian-devel-prime-prime-pr...@lists.debian.org.

This may not render your entire argument invalid, please re-submit your
message for consideration once the above has been corrected, and
everyone has had time for a glass of milk and a cookie.

Hugs, and kisses,
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Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-12 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 07:56:33PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 The whole vote is to come up with a recommendation for the
  decision makers

And should the decision makers not follow that recommendation, the
flamewars will truely begin.

The format and phrasing of this is:
The Debian project recommends [something].
I would feel very uncomfortable going against the project directly
recommending I follow a particular course of action. This indicates to
me that this is more of an instruction, rather than a recommendation,
despite the wording.

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Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-11 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:14:10AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 Forking devotee at this point seems to serve little purpose,
  given that upstream is not hostile.
 

Given that the secretary team haven't heared of these patches (AFAIK),
the mention of 'forking' is a bit of a over-reaction.

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Webapps policy: final RFC

2009-08-10 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi,

I've been tasked as part of the release team of finalising and pushing
through the Webapps Policy, whcih can be found at
http://webapps-common.alioth.debian.org/draft/html/

The source for this is at
http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/webapps-common/webapps-common/trunk/doc/Webapps-Policy-Manual-DRAFT.sgml?view=log

Comments appreciated, I'd like to get these all in and integrated by end
of August, to push to the policy team for inclusion.

Thanks,
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Re: Non-unified patches and dpkg source format ‘3.0 (quilt)’.

2009-08-07 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 10:45:14AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
 Giving a standard interface to reviewers is a laudable goal, but I do not see
 reviewers except in elaborate scenarios about security. Therefore I will not
 trade a real benefit for a hypothetical one, even if both are neglectible.
 Also, I think that it is very important in a project of 1,000 persons to stick
 to facts, and avoid building illusions together. So as long as there is no
 reviewing process nor package reviews, there is no need to adapt to imaginary
 reviewers.


/me raises his release team hat.

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Bug#539294: acpi: gets confused between mAh and mWh

2009-07-30 Thread Neil McGovern
Package: acpi
Version: 1.1-2
Severity: minor

Hi,

It seems that acpi is getting a bit confused as to the difference between mAh 
and mWh:

maul...@cheshire:~$ cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info 
present: yes
design capacity: 74880 mWh
last full capacity:  71270 mWh
battery technology:  rechargeable
design voltage:  14400 mV
design capacity warning: 3563 mWh
design capacity low: 200 mWh
capacity granularity 1:  1 mWh
capacity granularity 2:  1 mWh
model number:42T4568
serial number:4759
battery type:LION
OEM info:SONY
maul...@cheshire:~$ acpi
 Battery 0: Charging, 12%, 25:15:57 until charged, design capacity 74880 mAh


Cheers,
Neil
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Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages acpi depends on:
ii  libc6 2.7-18 GNU C Library: Shared libraries

acpi recommends no packages.

acpi suggests no packages.

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Re: Please unblock monotone

2009-07-30 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 09:48:54PM -0700, Zack Weinberg wrote:
 The botan library snafu has been resolved.  It looks like the package
 needs to wait for the latest botan and sqlite, and something weird
 happened on the hppa buildd which I *hope* is not the beginning of
 another horrible round of unreproducible CPU-dependent build failures
 for me, but I don't think the package needs a manual block anymore.
 

Hi,

I've added an unblock hint, but please be aware that we're having a
couple of issues with Britney at the moment, so it may not work for a
few days.

Thanks,
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Re: Please allow 0.2.5-2+dfsg-1+lenny2

2009-07-30 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 11:05:05AM -0300, UlisesVitulli wrote:
 I've found a problem which breaks functionality on one of my packages
 and I've prepared a patch to solve it.
 It's really very simply as you may find attached.
 

Hi,

That's fine. Please upload to SPU.

Thanks,
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Re: When will the release team start publishing release goals?

2009-07-30 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 04:25:36PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 When do the release team plan to start publishing approved release
 goals?  Any hope of having this done now during debconf?
 

Hi Peter,

Apologies for the delay in replying. There should be a notification to
debian-devel-announce later today.

Thanks,
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Re: [stable] gnome-vfs update for point release (non-working trash)?

2009-07-30 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 03:45:01PM +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote:
 Is this patch a valid candidate for inclusion in the next point
 release? 
 

Hi Julian,

I'm afraid we can't accept this:
* There's a change to the uploaders (which is a bit useless for a stable
point release)
* We don't really support ext4 in Lenny anyway
but mainly:
* This will (AFAICT) create problems for translations, which aren't
included.

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Re: Please give back nlkt 0.3.2.1-3 on sparc

2009-07-30 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:40:35PM +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote:
 Please do so nlkt 0.3.2.1-3 fixing FTBFS bug can migrate to testing.
 E-mail to sparc buildd was sent at Jul 18 and received no answer.
 

Hi Eugene,

It seems that this comes back from w-b:
nlkt: has uninstallable build-dependencies. Skipping

Thanks,
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Re: Debian redesign

2009-07-29 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:46:04PM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote:
 Discussing about this on irc, some people seemed to agree with my view
 that the female images are too sexual, and that the image of the
 notebook on the pillow is disturbing.
 

I disagree. The images for the males are just as suggestive. I have no
issue at all with these.

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Re: Switching /bin/sh to dash without dash essential

2009-07-28 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:34:01AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de (24/07/2009):
  Give me the freedom to choose.
 
 It looks like we just reached the “Linux is about choice” Goswin point.
 

Goswin's law:
As the length of a debian discussion increases, the chance of Goswin
mentioning that Linux is about choice tends towards 1.

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Your nut SPU upload

2009-07-28 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi Arnaud,

I've just rejected your upload to SPU for nut.
We generally cannot accept 58,000 line changes in SPU. Especially
without requesting it on debian-release@lists.debian.org

Additionally, you have added a  file, called :. This seems to be a
copy of debian/changelog.

It also seems to have been re-autotooled with squeeze's autotool, which
can't be done for a SPU upload.

Thanks,
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Re: upgrading dbus or running the init script kills X

2009-07-24 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi all,

Just to re-iterate from a release team PoV, this could really do with
fixing.
(for d-d readers, this is a awesome bug, where dbus upgrades kill X)

This is holding up xcb-util, which is holding up python-visual, which is
preventing the removal (finally!) of GTK 1

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Re: upgrading dbus or running the init script kills X

2009-07-24 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 01:50:02PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote:
 Just to re-iterate from a release team PoV, this could really do with
 fixing.
 (for d-d readers, this is a awesome bug, where dbus upgrades kill X)
 
 This is holding up xcb-util, which is holding up python-visual, which is
 preventing the removal (finally!) of GTK 1
 

Thanks to those who helped on this. A patch is winging it's way to the
BTS now. An expediant upload would be appreciated :)

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Bug#527872: upgrading dbus or running the init script kills X

2009-07-24 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi all,

Just to re-iterate from a release team PoV, this could really do with
fixing.
(for d-d readers, this is a awesome bug, where dbus upgrades kill X)

This is holding up xcb-util, which is holding up python-visual, which is
preventing the removal (finally!) of GTK 1

Thanks,
Neil
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Bug#527872: upgrading dbus or running the init script kills X

2009-07-24 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 01:50:02PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote:
 Just to re-iterate from a release team PoV, this could really do with
 fixing.
 (for d-d readers, this is a awesome bug, where dbus upgrades kill X)
 
 This is holding up xcb-util, which is holding up python-visual, which is
 preventing the removal (finally!) of GTK 1
 

Thanks to those who helped on this. A patch is winging it's way to the
BTS now. An expediant upload would be appreciated :)

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Bug#527872: upgrading dbus or running the init script kills X

2009-07-24 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi all,

Just to re-iterate from a release team PoV, this could really do with
fixing.
(for d-d readers, this is a awesome bug, where dbus upgrades kill X)

This is holding up xcb-util, which is holding up python-visual, which is
preventing the removal (finally!) of GTK 1

Thanks,
Neil
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Bug#527872: upgrading dbus or running the init script kills X

2009-07-24 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 01:50:02PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote:
 Just to re-iterate from a release team PoV, this could really do with
 fixing.
 (for d-d readers, this is a awesome bug, where dbus upgrades kill X)
 
 This is holding up xcb-util, which is holding up python-visual, which is
 preventing the removal (finally!) of GTK 1
 

Thanks to those who helped on this. A patch is winging it's way to the
BTS now. An expediant upload would be appreciated :)

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Re: [Debconf-team] orga meeting notes

2009-07-20 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:42:53PM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 09:32:04AM -0300, Margarita Manterola said:
  On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Holger Levsenhol...@layer-acht.org wrote:
   5. eva blanco will do nametags, she can contact Marga (in spanish) to get 
   the
   scripts from last year (to get the data out of penta into pdfs..)
  
  I don't have it.  If I'm not mistaken, Stephen had done it.  Stephen
  do you have the script to create the pdf with the nametags?
 
 I think that was Maulkin - cc'ed now.

Attached.

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FINAL Call for Nominations - 2009 SPI Board Election

2009-07-13 Thread Neil McGovern
As per our by-laws[0] and resolution 2004-08-10-dbg.2[1], two board
seats are up for election.

More information about the election, and to find the list of candidates
and their platforms, visit http://www.spi-inc.org/secretary/votes/vote8

At time of writing, one nomination has been received.

Timeline:
-
2009-07-13 23:59:59 UTC  Nominations close
2009-07-15 00:00:00 UTC  Voting opens (if required)
2009-07-28 23:59:59 UTC  Voting closes

How to nominate:

Email neilm at spi-inc.org. Nominations can be from the candidates, or a
third party. If the nomination is not from the candidate, they will need
to confirm their intent to stand before the deadline.

After the election results are posted, the Board will select from among
its members the executive (president, vp, treasurer, secretary). 
 
[0] http://www.spi-inc.org/corporate/by-laws 
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Re: DAM and NEW queues processing

2009-06-24 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 09:24:14AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
 Le Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 08:13:22AM -0700, Don Armstrong a écrit :
  
  But all of that said, it still needs trusted people to review the
  packages, which is where we've traditionally started to have scaling
  problems.
 
 This is where a public peer-review has an advantage: when submitting and
 reviewing a package we are exposed to the reviews of others. People who make
 good reviews will build a reputation, and will be natural candidates if we 
 want
 to maintain a team of trusted people who have the last word. And conversly, an
 open system lets people try the task and test their commitment before asking
 for a responsability. 
 

I'm possibly confused here. You seem to be advocating popping the
decision process from a team of trusted people who have the last word,
and pushing it on to a peer-review system. Which can then be used to
form a team of trusted people who have the last word.

Could you explain?

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Re: DAM and NEW queues processing

2009-06-23 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 02:47:11PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
 Has Debian even ever received a cease and desist letter from a IP
 lawyer?  Under which circumstances? I am bit tired of lawyers being
 mentioned each time the NEW problems are discussed, while it seems,
 based on history, that Debian is relatively safe from legal attacks.
 

So let's just drop the source section.

More seriously, I would strongly suggest that the Well, we haven't been
sued yet argument is disregarded as fallacious.

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Re: Please unblock dmraid/1.0.0.rc15-8

2009-06-23 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 05:31:45PM +0200, Giuseppe Iuculano wrote:
 Could you unblock dmraid/1.0.0.rc15-8 please?
 

Unblocked.

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Re: Openssl

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On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 12:43:36AM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
 Can openssl 0.9.8k-3 be pushed to testing?  It fixed a number
 of security issues.
 

Unblocked.

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Re: Please unblock dmraid/1.0.0.rc15-8

2009-06-23 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 05:31:45PM +0200, Giuseppe Iuculano wrote:
 Could you unblock dmraid/1.0.0.rc15-8 please?
 

Unblocked.

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Re: Openssl

2009-06-23 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 12:43:36AM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
 Can openssl 0.9.8k-3 be pushed to testing?  It fixed a number
 of security issues.
 

Unblocked.

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Re: HPPA and Squeeze

2009-06-08 Thread Neil McGovern
Firstly, thanks for your mail, apologies that I haven't replied sooner,
we've had EU and local elections, so I've been busy runnign around with
leaflets, knocking on doors, kissing babies etc. like any politician. No
expenses though...

On Sat, Jun 06, 2009 at 12:36:01PM -0600, Grant Grundler wrote:
 Carlos O'Donnell asked some questions in response to [0] and I never
 saw any response.  Can an attendee of the above meeting please reply
 this email from Carlos?
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2009/04/msg00303.html
 

I'm not sure what replies you'd like... there's certainly been some
follow ups to that mail.

 I also never got a response to my offer here:
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2009/04/msg00339.html
 

Indeed, and that's worrying. I would have expected a HPPA porter (if
indeed one still exists) to have replied to that.

 Quite a few serious hppa specific bugs have been fixed upstream over
 the past 6 months. This is worth revisiting.
 
 Is upstream stable enough for a buildd?  I don't know since I'm not aware
 of any attempts to run a buildd with those kernels.
 

Neither do we, we're not HPPA porters :)
We did go through this before with newer kernels, and it didn't help
FWIW.

 Is the answer to that question still germane?

Ish. We still have the issue that you can't actually buy HPPAs any more,
and various bits and pieces from the Arch Requalification list.

[change of order by me below]
 Also, I'd like to ask HPPA debs be kept in testing staging area,
 just never promoted when the release is cut.  This will let people
 continue using HPPA without having to suffer with the !hppa breakage
 that lives in unstable. 

 (that's all I personally care about - I don't care about stable
 releases.)

This is one of the major problems for the port. Testing exists to create
the next stable release. Essentially, testing *is* the next stable,
except that it's a little volatile for a number of months... :)

 Can we have the minutes for this meeting?

I'm afraid they're not publicly available, but I will be posting a
mail to d-d-a real-soon-now(tm), apologies for the delays in this, it
was a rather full meeting.

Hope this helps,
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HPPA and Squeeze

2009-06-02 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi,

As mentioned previously[0], the release team haven't been happy with the
state of the HPPA port in Debian. After the release team meeting[1], it
has been decided that unfortunatly HPPA will not be supported for
Squeeze. This was after careful consideration, and wasn't an easy
decision.

This means that ftpmasters will be asked to remove HPPA from testing and
unstable from the 30th June. It is suggested that HPPA porters may wish
to consider using debian-ports.org if they wish to continue with the
port.

Regards,
Neil McGovern

[0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2009/04/msg00299.html
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Re: HPPA and Squeeze

2009-06-02 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 03:07:35PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote:
 This means that ftpmasters will be asked to remove HPPA from testing and
 unstable from the 30th June. It is suggested that HPPA porters may wish
 to consider using debian-ports.org if they wish to continue with the
 port.
 

Erk, apologies for a couple of points in the above text which should
have been made clearer:
* HPPA will be removed from testing at that point. It's up to the FTP
  Masters to decide what to do with unstable.
* s/consider using/consider asking/ - I certainly didn't want to give
  the impression that I was trying to force anything on the admins!

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Re: lua-lpeg/lua-wsapi transition, help needed

2009-05-30 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 05:24:32PM +0200, Enrico Tassi wrote:
 I've some packages that seem to be blocked by lua-lpeg/lua-wsapi (ABI
 bump), but after spending some time surfing release.d.o I didn't manage
 to uderstand why they are not moving to testing.
 

Basically, package A breaks package B, and package B breaks package A,
and they all break package C, which basically means that britney (the
thing that manages transitions) needs some manual hinting.

I've added this now:
easy lua-lpeg/0.9-2 lua-cosmo/8.04.14-2 lua-leg/0.1.2-4 lua-wsapi/1.1.0-3 
sputnik/9.03.13+1-1 lua-orbit/2.0.2-2
so it should transition shortly!

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Re: goes osm2pgsql mututal dependency needs hinting

2009-05-30 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:37:11PM +1200, Hamish wrote:
 Hi,
 
 the goes  osm2pgsql packages are now both ready to go into testing
 but they mutually exclude each other from doing so. requesting
 paired-hinting.
 

Added:
# GIS itesm 20090530
easy osm2pgsql/0.52.20080408-3 geos/3.1.0-1

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Re: Removal of remaining packages using GTK 1.2

2009-05-28 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 10:12:04PM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
 icewm
 linpopup
 wmclockmon
 cheops
 codebreaker
 gaby
 dbmix
 gcrontab
 gbuffy
 gcvs
 gcx
 geg
 gman
 gps
 gqcam
 gtkpool
 libjsw
 i2e
 mah-jong
 mbrowse
 predict
 xemacs21
 swami
 xoscope
 xscorch
 

All removed

 ledcontrol
 

Age-days set to 8, new version now in testing.

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Re: Removal of remaining packages using GTK 1.2

2009-05-28 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 10:12:04PM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
 icewm
 linpopup
 wmclockmon
 cheops
 codebreaker
 gaby
 dbmix
 gcrontab
 gbuffy
 gcvs
 gcx
 geg
 gman
 gps
 gqcam
 gtkpool
 libjsw
 i2e
 mah-jong
 mbrowse
 predict
 xemacs21
 swami
 xoscope
 xscorch
 

All removed

 ledcontrol
 

Age-days set to 8, new version now in testing.

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Re: Testing removals for GTK 1.2 removal

2009-04-21 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 11:10:54PM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
 Hi,
 the following source packages have at least one binary package, which
 is now uninstallable, because one or more of it's depencies have been
 removed (GTK 1.2, Imlib1). Please remove them from testing:
 

Hi Moritz,

From a quick check, these are to be removed from unstable. When this
happens, they'll automatically get dropped from testing. Would you like
us to specially process these anyway?

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Re: debian/copyright verbosity

2009-04-16 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:53:58PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
 That would be premature. As I understand it, we're waiting on (and I'm
 actively soliciting) input for other purposes of the information in the
 ‘debian/copyright’ file; not least from the legal counsel at SPI.
 

I could be wrong, but I'm not aware that counsel has been asked. Have
you got a messageid?

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Re: Please remove powershell and soundtracker from testing

2009-03-23 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:15:59AM +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
 gnome-libs has been removed from unstable. Please remove the two remaining
 packages using it from testing: powershell and soundtracker
 RC bugs are in place so that they can't migrate back before they've been
 fixed.
 

removal hint added.

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Re: Sponsorship requirements and copyright files

2009-03-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 02:47:04AM +, Noah Slater wrote:
 This has clear advantages for being able to post-process, check, search, and
 navigate copyright information using whatever tools the community decides 
 would
 be profitable.
 

I'm not quite clear as to why this is an advantage yet Currently, this
seems to have been designed to provide interfaces for future tools to
use, while not regarding whether or not people want those tools.

Could you provide a use case or two to help clarify things? The main
one I see is for an end user to look at a packages copyright file and
say 'yes, I can use it for $foo', which is a case that's detracted from
in the proposal.

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Amendment: Enhance requirements for General resolutions

2009-03-22 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi,

Thanks for bringing this GR. I'd like to propose an amendment:

AMENDMENT START

General Resolutions are an important framework within the Debian
Project. Yet, in a project the size of Debian, the current requirements
to initiate one are too small.

Therefore the Debian project resolves that
 a) The constitution gets changed to not require K developers to sponsor
a resolution, but floor(Q). [see §4.2(1)]
 b) Delaying a decision of a Delegate or the DPL [§4.2(2.2)],
as well as resolutions against a shortening of discussion/voting
period or to overwrite a TC decision [§4.2(2.3)] requires floor(2Q)
developers to sponsor the resolution.
 c) the definition of K gets erased from the constitution. [§4.2(7)]

(Numbers in brackets are references to sections in the constitution).

AMENDMENT END

Rationale: This is basically s/K/Q/. It keeps the 'immediate override
delegate decision' as twice as hard as proposing a GR.

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Re: Sponsorship requirements and copyright files

2009-03-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 01:45:18PM +, Noah Slater wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:42:29AM +, Neil McGovern wrote:
  I'm not quite clear as to why this is an advantage yet Currently, this
  seems to have been designed to provide interfaces for future tools to
  use, while not regarding whether or not people want those tools.
 
  Could you provide a use case or two to help clarify things? The main
  one I see is for an end user to look at a packages copyright file and
  say 'yes, I can use it for $foo', which is a case that's detracted from
  in the proposal.
 
 Listing the licences (not necessarily copyright holders) in a machine readable
 format would allow lintian checks to be developed, and maybe even automatic
 license compatibility checks to be performed.
 

Perhaps this is where we're not quite seeing eye-to-eye. I know that
machine readable copyright files would allow lintian checks. But what
would those checks be, and what would be the point of them?

All I've personally seen so far is 'it makes data mining easier', which
although could be a goal in itself, doesn't improve the quality of
packages.

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Re: [dissenting]: Proposal: Enhance requirements for General resolutions

2009-03-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:53:02PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
 The first GR was passed in June 2003 and there were 804 developers.
 The last GR was passed in November 2008 and there were 1018 developers.
 

Actually, to be fair, the first vote was 1999, with 357 developers.

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Re: [dissenting]: Proposal: Enhance requirements for General resolutions

2009-03-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:59:34AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
 That's a fair question, but AUIU, it is not up to the proposer, having
 already proposed, to decide when the vote gets called.
 

It's up to the proposer or any of the seconders to do so.

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Amendment: Enhance requirements for General resolutions

2009-03-22 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi,

Thanks for bringing this GR. I'd like to propose an amendment:

AMENDMENT START

General Resolutions are an important framework within the Debian
Project. Yet, in a project the size of Debian, the current requirements
to initiate one are too small.

Therefore the Debian project resolves that
 a) The constitution gets changed to not require K developers to sponsor
a resolution, but floor(Q). [see §4.2(1)]
 b) Delaying a decision of a Delegate or the DPL [§4.2(2.2)],
as well as resolutions against a shortening of discussion/voting
period or to overwrite a TC decision [§4.2(2.3)] requires floor(2Q)
developers to sponsor the resolution.
 c) the definition of K gets erased from the constitution. [§4.2(7)]

(Numbers in brackets are references to sections in the constitution).

AMENDMENT END

Rationale: This is basically s/K/Q/. It keeps the 'immediate override
delegate decision' as twice as hard as proposing a GR.

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Re: [dissenting]: Proposal: Enhance requirements for General resolutions

2009-03-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:53:02PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote:
 The first GR was passed in June 2003 and there were 804 developers.
 The last GR was passed in November 2008 and there were 1018 developers.
 

Actually, to be fair, the first vote was 1999, with 357 developers.

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Re: [dissenting]: Proposal: Enhance requirements for General resolutions

2009-03-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:59:34AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
 That's a fair question, but AUIU, it is not up to the proposer, having
 already proposed, to decide when the vote gets called.
 

It's up to the proposer or any of the seconders to do so.

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Re: Please unblock shorewall-{common,perl,shell}

2009-03-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:49:50PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
 It appears that shorewall-{common,perl,shell} are in need of hinting in
 order to propogate.  I'd appreciate if someone could hint them.
 

easy hint added.

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Re: ImageMagick upload to stable, replacing non-free fonts (#510751)

2009-03-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 04:45:14PM -0300, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote:
 Hi!
 
 ImageMagick in Lenny has non-free fonts with it (see bug #510751).
 The proposed update is to upload the current version in testing

Please upload.

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Re: Question for DPL Candidates: Debian $$$

2009-03-21 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:50:52AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
 Other potential usages of Debian moneys are bounties, to which I'm not
 opposed in principle. However, they should obey to very specific
 rules. The first one is that no one already contributing to Debian
 should be authorized to pick them up (no dunc-tank 2). The second one
 is that they should be used only for tasks that we have a history of
 not being able to fulfill by ourselves, and that are considered
 blocking for some needed Project improvements.
 

Except I'm not sure this would be legal under non-profit law, unless
you're very careful. There's an issue that funds can't be used to pay
someone the equivilent of a 'wage' in this way.
Donations must go into a central pot, and can't be specified for bounty
#263 for example.

I would suggest asking for legal advice if you you want to persue this,
I can try and dig out the previous stuff we got as well.

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Re: libcairo has two different versions in Lenny?

2009-03-20 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:57:25AM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
 920 cdrom://Lenny_DVD_1 lenny/main Packages
 900 ftp://ftp2.de.debian.org lenny/main Packages
 980 http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/main Packages
[...]
 Can someone explain, WHY the SECURITY mirror has an outdated version  of
 libcairo2 and blocking the installation (I have  manualy  installed  the
 libcairo2, but it is  annoying  and  should  be  corrected  as  fast  as
 possibel)
 

You appear to have pinned things. As this is a list for Debian
Development, rather than basic user support, I would suggest you ask in
debian-us...@lists.debian.org. FUs set.

 Debian GNU/Linux Consultant

That's worrying.

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Bug#505088: alsa-lib qa-doublebuild release goal in lenny

2009-02-12 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 09:14:36AM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
 So, please advise.
 

From a RT point of view, this isn't going to have a fix in for lenny.

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Re: alsa-lib qa-doublebuild release goal in lenny

2009-02-12 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 09:14:36AM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
 So, please advise.
 

From a RT point of view, this isn't going to have a fix in for lenny.

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Re: alsa-lib qa-doublebuild release goal in lenny

2009-02-12 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 09:14:36AM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
 So, please advise.
 

From a RT point of view, this isn't going to have a fix in for lenny.

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Re: Release updates for the website

2009-02-11 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 08:06:55PM -0800, Matt Kraai wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:37:34AM +, Neil McGovern wrote:
  On the day, we'llneed the stable-release-tag-magic-thing updating to
  lenny too, so I'mlooking for a volunteer :)
 
 I should be able to help.  What needs to be done?
 

You'll need to be available on #debian-release at about 20:00-23:00 UTC
to run scripts and check things in :)

I'll also be providing various patches asap for inclusion before we
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Release updates for the website

2009-02-10 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi all,

As you may have noticed, it's the intention to release this weekend, on
Valentines Day. This means that there needs to be updates to the
website. I'm trying to get the various teams to produce some text for
me, and I should be able to produce a nice webwml patch for you all
shortly.

On the day, we'llneed the stable-release-tag-magic-thing updating to
lenny too, so I'mlooking for a volunteer :)

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Meeting tonight, 19:15UTC (Release timeline)

2009-02-10 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi all,

This is a quick mail to invite those interested to a meeting tonight to
discuss the timetable for the release.
Please note that this is a practial meeting, and due to the tight
timescales we're working towards, topic discipline is appreciated.

Apologies for the short notice.

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Website for lenny

2009-02-08 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi Debian CD!

To try and get the website ready in time for release, it would be great
if the CD section of the website could be updated[0].

I can create the patches to the webwml if you need me to, but it would
be really good if you could go over http://www.debian.org/CD/ and tell
me what's out of date, and what needs updating.

Thanks!
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Website updates for Lenny

2009-02-08 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi Debian boot!

To try and get the website ready in time for release, it would be great
if the boot section of the website could be updated.

I can create the patches to the webwml if you need me to, but it would
be really good if you could go over
http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/ and tell me what's
out of date, and what needs updating.

I also need some text for the press release, have a look at
http://www.debian.org/News/2007/20070408

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Re: please unblock gst-plugins-good0.10

2009-01-30 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:20:04PM -0200, Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 03:55:08PM +, Neil McGovern wrote:
  On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:07:43PM -0200, Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo 
  wrote:
   Version 0.10.8-4.1 fixes a security bug!
  
  Unblocked.
  
 
 Thanks a lot!
 
 I couldn't help but notice that libcaca has bumped shlibs in unstable.
 Perhaps this requires an upload to t-p-u?
 

Yes, please do so.

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Re: Remove sshguard from testing?

2009-01-29 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 04:51:38PM +, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
 sshguard is useful to me, and I'd like to see it stay in, but in its
 current state of neglect it's probably not practical. My offer to co-maintain
 still stands, but I doubt a new upstream will make it into lenny at this
 late stage. RM's view would be welcome.
 

Agreed. Removed.

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Re: [Fwd: Please unblock dtc 0.29.16-1]

2009-01-28 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 06:28:34AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
 Please, consider, this is urgent, as there's a security fix in this
 package. Is there any way to skip the 9 days delay?
 

Upload with urgency high?

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Re: Pre-approval for wide-dhcpv6 t-p-u upload

2009-01-28 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 03:37:24PM +0100, Jérémie Corbier wrote:
 and I would like to be allowed to upload it to t-p-u since wide-dhcpv6-client 
 in
 its current state in testing is completely unusable.
 

Please upload.

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Re: Please update guile-1.6's unblock

2009-01-28 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 03:21:32PM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 Hello,
 
 from Luk's hints file:
 | # 20081218
 | […]
 | unblock guile-1.6/1.6.8-6.1
 
 please make it: guile-1.6/1.6.8-6.3
 

Unblocked.

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Re: please unblock gst-plugins-good0.10

2009-01-28 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:07:43PM -0200, Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo wrote:
 Version 0.10.8-4.1 fixes a security bug!

Unblocked.

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Bug#512371: Please allow biofox 1.1.5-1 in Lenny.

2009-01-27 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 07:09:31PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
 http://people.debian.org/~naoliv/misc/debian-med/biofox_diff.txt
 
 * New upstream release, compatible with Firefox 3 (Closes: #512371).
 * Updated debian/watch.

Both ok.

 * Use Debhelper 7 (idebian/co{ntrol,mpat}.

Not ok.

 * Depend on ${misc:Depends} (debian/control).
 * Converted debian/copyright to machine-readable format.
 * New homepage (debian/control).
 * Updated to Policy 3.8.0:
   - added a get-orig-source target to debian/rules.
   - wrote a README.source file explaining that upstream sources are in 
  Zip
 format.

All fine

 * The package now uses Upstream's biofox.jar instead of rebuilding it in
   debian/rules.
 

Is this what happened to chrome/content/* ?

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Bug#512371: Please allow biofox 1.1.5-1 in Lenny.

2009-01-27 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 07:53:53PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
 Hi Neil, thanks for your review.
 
 Le Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:45:30AM +, Neil McGovern a écrit :
  
   * Use Debhelper 7 (idebian/co{ntrol,mpat}.
  
  Not ok.
 
 What's wrong, Debhelper or the typo? Most freeze exemptions I got so far (from
 other release managers) included a Debhelper update.
 

The debhelper change, at this very very late stage in the release. Your
previous request was about a month and a half ago.

   * The package now uses Upstream's biofox.jar instead of rebuilding 
it in
 debian/rules.
   
  
  Is this what happened to chrome/content/* ?
 
 Yes:
 

Ok, that's fine. Despite lots of whitespace changes / reindentation of
code, the actual diff seems ok. Could you upload to t-p-u with just
these changes and not the ones to the build system?

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Bug#512371: Please allow biofox 1.1.5-1 in Lenny.

2009-01-27 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 08:56:29PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
 Le Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:36:54AM +, Neil McGovern a écrit :
  On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 07:53:53PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
  
  The debhelper change, at this very very late stage in the release. Your
  previous request was about a month and a half ago.
 
 Is there a precise concern? Some problems that could arise with some of my
 other packages in Lenny that were made with Debhelper 7?
 

Changing to a new version of a build system really isn't something
that's garunteed to be 100% trouble free. Your other packages will have
had more than a month, and I'd like to shin in less than a month.

 I spent a lot of time on biofox this week-end, but I would like to do someting
 else now…
 

That's up to you, of course. I'd suggest a call for help, or a request
for removal.

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Bug#512371: Please allow biofox 1.1.5-1 in Lenny.

2009-01-27 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 07:09:31PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
 http://people.debian.org/~naoliv/misc/debian-med/biofox_diff.txt
 
 * New upstream release, compatible with Firefox 3 (Closes: #512371).
 * Updated debian/watch.

Both ok.

 * Use Debhelper 7 (idebian/co{ntrol,mpat}.

Not ok.

 * Depend on ${misc:Depends} (debian/control).
 * Converted debian/copyright to machine-readable format.
 * New homepage (debian/control).
 * Updated to Policy 3.8.0:
   - added a get-orig-source target to debian/rules.
   - wrote a README.source file explaining that upstream sources are in 
  Zip
 format.

All fine

 * The package now uses Upstream's biofox.jar instead of rebuilding it in
   debian/rules.
 

Is this what happened to chrome/content/* ?

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Bug#512371: Please allow biofox 1.1.5-1 in Lenny.

2009-01-27 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 07:53:53PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
 Hi Neil, thanks for your review.
 
 Le Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:45:30AM +, Neil McGovern a écrit :
  
   * Use Debhelper 7 (idebian/co{ntrol,mpat}.
  
  Not ok.
 
 What's wrong, Debhelper or the typo? Most freeze exemptions I got so far (from
 other release managers) included a Debhelper update.
 

The debhelper change, at this very very late stage in the release. Your
previous request was about a month and a half ago.

   * The package now uses Upstream's biofox.jar instead of rebuilding 
it in
 debian/rules.
   
  
  Is this what happened to chrome/content/* ?
 
 Yes:
 

Ok, that's fine. Despite lots of whitespace changes / reindentation of
code, the actual diff seems ok. Could you upload to t-p-u with just
these changes and not the ones to the build system?

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Bug#512371: Please allow biofox 1.1.5-1 in Lenny.

2009-01-27 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 08:56:29PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
 Le Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:36:54AM +, Neil McGovern a écrit :
  On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 07:53:53PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
  
  The debhelper change, at this very very late stage in the release. Your
  previous request was about a month and a half ago.
 
 Is there a precise concern? Some problems that could arise with some of my
 other packages in Lenny that were made with Debhelper 7?
 

Changing to a new version of a build system really isn't something
that's garunteed to be 100% trouble free. Your other packages will have
had more than a month, and I'd like to shin in less than a month.

 I spent a lot of time on biofox this week-end, but I would like to do someting
 else now…
 

That's up to you, of course. I'd suggest a call for help, or a request
for removal.

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Bug#512371: [Debian-med-packaging] Bug#512371: Please allow biofox 1.1.5-1 in Lenny.

2009-01-27 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 07:22:28PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
 Well, there was no response to my diff from RM so I guess it is accepted
 the way I tried to address their concerns.  I just uploaded


Thanks, ACCEPTed.

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Re: Please allow biofox 1.1.5-1 in Lenny.

2009-01-27 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 07:09:31PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
 http://people.debian.org/~naoliv/misc/debian-med/biofox_diff.txt
 
 * New upstream release, compatible with Firefox 3 (Closes: #512371).
 * Updated debian/watch.

Both ok.

 * Use Debhelper 7 (idebian/co{ntrol,mpat}.

Not ok.

 * Depend on ${misc:Depends} (debian/control).
 * Converted debian/copyright to machine-readable format.
 * New homepage (debian/control).
 * Updated to Policy 3.8.0:
   - added a get-orig-source target to debian/rules.
   - wrote a README.source file explaining that upstream sources are in 
  Zip
 format.

All fine

 * The package now uses Upstream's biofox.jar instead of rebuilding it in
   debian/rules.
 

Is this what happened to chrome/content/* ?

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Re: Please allow biofox 1.1.5-1 in Lenny.

2009-01-27 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 07:53:53PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
 Hi Neil, thanks for your review.
 
 Le Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:45:30AM +, Neil McGovern a écrit :
  
   * Use Debhelper 7 (idebian/co{ntrol,mpat}.
  
  Not ok.
 
 What's wrong, Debhelper or the typo? Most freeze exemptions I got so far (from
 other release managers) included a Debhelper update.
 

The debhelper change, at this very very late stage in the release. Your
previous request was about a month and a half ago.

   * The package now uses Upstream's biofox.jar instead of rebuilding 
it in
 debian/rules.
   
  
  Is this what happened to chrome/content/* ?
 
 Yes:
 

Ok, that's fine. Despite lots of whitespace changes / reindentation of
code, the actual diff seems ok. Could you upload to t-p-u with just
these changes and not the ones to the build system?

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Re: Please allow biofox 1.1.5-1 in Lenny.

2009-01-27 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 08:56:29PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
 Le Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:36:54AM +, Neil McGovern a écrit :
  On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 07:53:53PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
  
  The debhelper change, at this very very late stage in the release. Your
  previous request was about a month and a half ago.
 
 Is there a precise concern? Some problems that could arise with some of my
 other packages in Lenny that were made with Debhelper 7?
 

Changing to a new version of a build system really isn't something
that's garunteed to be 100% trouble free. Your other packages will have
had more than a month, and I'd like to shin in less than a month.

 I spent a lot of time on biofox this week-end, but I would like to do someting
 else now…
 

That's up to you, of course. I'd suggest a call for help, or a request
for removal.

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Re: please unblock tau/2.16.4-1.2

2009-01-25 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:11:50PM +1100, Aníbal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 08:41:45PM +1100, Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 08:34:22AM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
 Aníbal Monsalve Salazar ani...@debian.org writes:
 please unblock tau/2.16.4-1.2
 
 tau has been removed from lenny over 9 months ago.
 
 The previous tau version that was removed from testing was 2.16.4-1 and
 its corresponding source package is available at
 http://snapshot.debian.net/package/tau
 

Hi Aníbal,

Sorry for the delay in replying. It seems that Mark wasn't clear enough.
removed nine months ago doesn't mean we can't find the source, it
means we're not happy to unblock it during the freeze.

Sorry for the dissapointment,
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Re: Please unblock opensaml2 2.0-2

2009-01-23 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 08:54:48PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
 Hello folks,
 
 Could you unblock opensaml2 2.0-2 for lenny?  The changelog is:
 
   * Include fix for https://bugs.internet2.edu/jira/browse/CPPOST-7
 (Metadata with EncryptionMethod elements fails to load)
   * Include fix for https://bugs.internet2.edu/jira/browse/CPPOST-11
 (SignatureMetadataFilter fails to validate signed EntityDescriptor)
 

Unblocked.

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Re: please unblock twill-0.9-1

2009-01-23 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 01:39:06AM +0100, Arnaud Fontaine wrote:
 diff --exclude='*other_packages*' --exclude='*tests*' -urN 
 twill-0.9~b1/debian/changelog twill-0.9/debian/changelog

Unblocked.

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Re: Please unfreeze netatalk

2009-01-23 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 07:27:06AM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
 Would a one-line change of build-dependencies to fix Bug#512604 be 
 accepted?
 

Yes, to T-P-U though. However, isn't this affected by #459459?

 Would any of the other parts, if isolated from that largest change of 
 being actually useful with current MacOS X filesharing clients?
 

I'd consider any of the important bugs, but I'd like to see a debdiff
first.

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Re: Please unblock dkimproxy 1.0.1-8.1

2009-01-23 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:36:55PM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
 It's a simple enough script renaming agreed by upstream to fix an RC bug.
 

Unblocked.

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Re: [release-notes] Deprecated packages, squeeze version number

2009-01-23 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:11:00AM +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
 Btw., will squeeze be 6.0?
 

Unknown yet, and probably won't be for some time.

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Re: Please unblock request-tracker3.6/3.6.7-5

2009-01-23 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 01:41:14PM +, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
 I've just uploaded this, which contains an important documentation fix
 relating to choice of databases which has just come to our attention.
 

Unblocked.

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Bug#512624: Lowering severity

2009-01-22 Thread Neil McGovern
severity 512624 important
thanks

This doesn't make the package unusable, or mostly so.

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Bug#512624: Lowering severity

2009-01-22 Thread Neil McGovern
severity 512624 important
thanks

This doesn't make the package unusable, or mostly so.

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Re: freeze exception for xserver-xorg-video-intel

2009-01-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:25:28PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote:
 Hi,
 
 xserver-xorg-video-intel/2:2.3.2-2+lenny6 fixes a regression introduced
 in -2+lenny5.  The patch is trivial.  Please unblock it.
 

Unblocked.

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Re: please unblock pybridge packages

2009-01-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:27:54AM +, David Watson wrote:
 Could you please unblock pybridge-0.3.0-4, this upload fixes the serious
 bug #512576.
 

Unblocked.

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Re: Unblock request:

2009-01-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 07:10:42PM -0500, Barry deFreese wrote:
 Please unblock slmon.  The changes are minor but mainly to remove the  
 build-deps on old gnome-libs.  Here is the changelog:


Unblocked.

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Re: Unblock request: synce-trayicon 0.11-1.1

2009-01-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 07:15:16PM -0500, Barry deFreese wrote:
 Please unblock synce-trayicon.  It is a minor change to remove an  
 unnecessary build-dep on a gnome-lib.  Here is the changelog:


Unblocked.

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Re: Unblock request: glotski 0.2-7

2009-01-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 07:24:51PM -0500, Barry deFreese wrote:
 Hi,

 Please unblock glotski.  It's a small change to remove an unneeded  
 build-dep on a gnome-libs binary.  Here is the changelog entry:


Unblocked.

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Re: Unblock request: gwc

2009-01-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 07:33:03PM -0500, Barry deFreese wrote:
 Please consider unblocking gwc  .  The number of changes are significant  
 but small  (Mainly to kill more gnome-lib build-depends).  If you would  
 like to see a diff, please let me know.  Here are the last two changelog  
 entries against what is in testing:


Unblocked.

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Re: Unblock request: mrwtoppm 0.1.1-2.2

2009-01-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 07:42:52PM -0500, Barry deFreese wrote:
 Please consider unblocking mrwtoppm 0.1.1-2.2.  Another unnecessary  
 gnome-libs build-dep.  I did bump compat on this one though.  Here is  
 the changelog entry:


Sorry, I'm not happy with a change to debian/compat at this late stage.

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Re: Unblock request: ogle-gui 0.9.2-4.2

2009-01-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 07:46:40PM -0500, Barry deFreese wrote:
 Please unblock ogle-gui 0.9.2-4.2.  Another unnecessary build-dep on a  
 gnome-lib (and some minor lintian fixes).  Here is the changelog:


Any idea what:
--- ogle-gui-0.9.2/debian/ogle-gui.desktop
+++ ogle-gui-0.9.2/debian/ogle-gui.desktop
@@ -1,5 +1,4 @@
 [Desktop Entry]
-Encoding=UTF-8
 Version=0.9.2
 Name=Ogle
 Type=Application

is about?

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