נא להסיר את כתובתי מרשימת מייל זו מיידית.
תודה ושבת שלום.
פרץ. rotk...@gmail.com
2011/7/21 Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com
I must agree with Craig here: that the chapters conference served only
vegan food this year wasn't a popular decision among southeast Asian
delegates either. You can't please everyone, and it is important to know
whom to please. Avoiding Sabbath and Ramadan is probably a good culturally
aware idea for a Wikimania in Israel; abstinence from pork for a Wikimania
in Poland (there were vegetarian options) probably not.
On Jul 21, 2011 8:27 PM, Craig Franklin cr...@halo-17.net wrote:
The problem with what you're proposing is that everyone has something
they
don't want to see, and sooner or later you'll annoy someone by omitting
something they need. Case in point: the recent Chapters conference in
Berlin was vegan food only, which clashed with my cultural requirement to
have fish on a Friday.
You simply can't make everyone happy.
On 21 July 2011 22:22, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com
wrote:
The reason why I suggested that we make a commitment that future
Wikimanias won't clash with Ramadan or certain other culturally
sensitive dates, Is that as Harel pointed out it isn't just Islam
that has dates we should avoid (and I appreciate that Muslims are
exempt from their fast on their way to and from Wikimania). I accept
that it won't be easy to come up with dates that work for a culturally
sensitive global organisation, and I'm aware that this isn't the first
time we've clashed with Ramadan. Globalisation is hard, coming up with
a midyear date that doesn't clash with anything we don't want to clash
with will not be easy, but if we truly want to Globalise the pedia we
should at least try to do this.
I don't observe Ramadan, or watch sport, and I'm happy to eat pork.
But if we want future Wikimanias to be open to a truly global
community then I believe that we should aim for Gdansk to be the last
Wikimania with Pork on the menu and Haifa the last that clashes with
any major religious event (I have no objection to a two hour break for
sports fans provided there is, as at Gdansk, an alternative for the
sportsphobic amongst us).
WereSpielChequers
On 20 July 2011 22:41, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org wrote:
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Manuel Schneider
manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch wrote:
We discussed that last year and someone came up with a sensible
remark:
If you are travelling during Ramadan, you are excempted from the
fast.
It should also be noted that Wikimania 2009 also took place during
Ramadan, and Wikimania 2012 will miss it by only a few days.
There's also already a page on wikimania2011wiki directed at the
Muslim Ramadan-observing Wikimaniacs that has been up for almost an
entire year (August 2010!).
http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ramadan
Having Wikimania during Ramadan isn't a showstopper... they can still
partake in all of the normal Wikimania activities, and this year's
Wikimania has already made plans to support them.
--
Casey Brown
Cbrown1023
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