Re: [asterisk-users] axfer with simple CDR

2012-05-30 Thread Marek Cervenka

Dne 29.5.2012 18:23, Kevin P. Fleming napsal(a):

On 05/29/2012 07:57 AM, Marek Cervenka wrote:

is it possible with simple CDR fully describe axfer? (axfer is asterisk
native, not phone function)


No, it is not. CDRs (Asterisk or otherwise) are only capable of 
directly (simply) describing a call from party A to party B. They have 
no ability to describe call treatments, in-call features, or any other 
advanced features.


Asterisk's CDRs *attempt* to represent such information, but as you've 
seen, they don't satisfy everyone, and it seems that many parties have 
conflicting ideas as to how things like transfers should be 
represented in CDRs.




ok ok. i tried it :)

i'll try it the right way - CEL  (centos6,unixODBC,cel_odbc,mysql)

any sql views,scripts,sql triggers someone?
is it implemented in switchvox,asterisknow,trixbox,elastix?

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Re: [asterisk-users] axfer with simple CDR

2012-05-29 Thread Arstan Jusupov
I think what you want is CEL logging, cdr has design issues. If I am not 
mistaken it's covered in asterisk wiki itself.

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On May 29, 2012, at 8:57 PM, Marek Cervenka cerv...@fpf.slu.cz wrote:

 hi,
 
 i read a lot about CDR problems
 this document is the best description of CDRs problem in Asterisk 
 http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/team/murf/RFCs/CDRfix2.rfc.docx i found
 
 but
 i cant still answer my question
 
 is it possible with simple CDR fully describe axfer? (axfer is asterisk 
 native, not phone function)
 
 
 scenario
 A - customer
 B - secretary
 C - consultant1
 D - consultant2
 
 A - B
 B axfer C
 C axfer D
 
 i need to know
 time B with C (consultation)
 time A with C
 time C with D (consultation)
 time A with D
 time A with everyone (full time -  from start to the end of call)
 
 (what about ring time?)
 
 is it possible? if yes, can you post some example?
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] axfer with simple CDR

2012-05-29 Thread Kevin P. Fleming

On 05/29/2012 07:57 AM, Marek Cervenka wrote:

is it possible with simple CDR fully describe axfer? (axfer is asterisk
native, not phone function)


No, it is not. CDRs (Asterisk or otherwise) are only capable of directly 
(simply) describing a call from party A to party B. They have no ability 
to describe call treatments, in-call features, or any other advanced 
features.


Asterisk's CDRs *attempt* to represent such information, but as you've 
seen, they don't satisfy everyone, and it seems that many parties have 
conflicting ideas as to how things like transfers should be represented 
in CDRs.


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