(seeing God in islamic hadith)

2007-01-27 Thread Khazeh
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/001.smt.html#0
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two comings of God

 

in a form other than His own Form

 

and in His own Form

 

Chapter 81: THE WAY IN WHICH THE BELIEVERS WOULD SEE THE LORD 

  _  

Book 001, Number 0349: 

Abu Haraira reported: The people said to the Messenger of Allah (God)  (may
peace be upon him): Messenger of Allah (God) , shall we see our Lord on the
Day of Resurrection? The Messenger of Allah (God)  (may peace be upon him)
said: Do you feel any trouble in seeing the moon on the night when it is
full? They said: Messenger of Allah (God) , no. He (the Messenger) further
said: Do you feel any trouble in seeing the sun, when there is no cloud over
it? They said: Messenger of Allah (God) . no. He (the Holy Prophet) said:
Verily you would see Him like this (as you see the sun and the moon). God
will gather people on the Day of Resurrection and say: Let every people
follow what they worshipped. Those who worshipped the sun would follow the
sun, and those who worshipped the moon would follow the moon, and those who
worshipped the devils would follow the devils. This Ummah (of Islam) alone
would be left behind and there would be hypocrites too amongst it. Allah
(God)  would then come to them in a form other than His own Form,
recognisable to them, and would say: I am your Lord. They would say: We take
refuge with Allah (God)  from thee. We will stay here till our Lord comes to
us. and when our Lord would come we would recognise Him. Subsequently Allah
(God)  would come to them in His own Form, recognisable to them, and say: I
am your Lord. They would say: Thou art our Lord. And they would follow Him,
and a bridge would be set over the Hell; and I (the Holy Prophet) and my
Ummah would be the first to pass over it; and none but the messengers would
speak on that day, and the prayer of the messengers on that day would be: O
Allah (God) ! grant safety, grant safety. In Hell, there would be long spits
like the thorns of Sa'dan He (the Holy Prophet) said: Have you seen Sa'dan?
They replied: Yes, Messenger of Allah (God) . He said: Verily those (hooks)
would be like the thorns of Sa'dan, but no one knows their size except Allah
(God) . These would seize people for their misdeeds. Some of them would
escape for their (good) deeds, and some would be rewarded for their deeds
till they get salvation. When Allah (God)  would finish judging His bondsmen
and because of His mercy decide to take out of Hell such people as He
pleases. He would command the angels to bring out those who had not
associated anything with Allah (God) ; to whom Allah (God)  decided to show
mercy. those who would say: There is no god but Allah (God) . They (the
angels) would recognise them in the Fire by the marks of prostration, for
Hell-fire will devour everything (limb) of the sons of Adam except the marks
of prostration. Allah (God)  has forbidden the fire to consume the marks of
prostration. They will be taken out of the Fire having been burnt, and the
water of life would be poured over them, and they will sprout as seed does
In the silt carried by flood.

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/001.smt.html#00
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. you will not face any difficulty in seeing your Lord but only so much as
you feel in seeing one of them

 

 

 

Abu Huraira reported that they (the Companions of the Holy Prophet) said:
Allah (God) 's Messenger, will we be able to see our Lord on the Day of
Judgment? He said: Do you feel any difficulty in seeing the sun in the noon
when there is no cloud over it? They said: No. He again said: Do you feel
any difficulty in seeing the moon on the fourteenth night when there is no
cloud over it? They said: No. Thereupon he said: By Allah (God)  Who is One
in Whose Hand is my life. you will not face any difficulty in seeing your
Lord but only so much as you feel in seeing one of them. Then Allah (God)
would sit in judgment upon the servant and would say: O, so and so, did I
not honour you and make you the chief and provide you the spouse and subdue
for you horses, camels, and afforded you an opportunity to rule over your
subjects? He would say: Yes. And then it would be said: Did you not think
that you would meet Us? And he would say: No. Thereupon He (Allah (God) )
would say: Well, We forget you as you forgot Us. Then the second person
would be brought for judgment. (And Allah (God)  would) say: 0, so and so.
did We not honour you and make you the chief and make you pair and subdue
for you horses and camels and afford you an opportunity to rule over your
subjects? He would say: Yes, my Lord. And He (the Lord) would say: Did you
not think that you would be meeting Us? And he would say: No. And then He
(Allah (God) ) would say: Well, I forget you today as you forgot Us. Then
the third -one would be brought and He (Allah (God) ) would say to him as He
said 

FW: (seeing God in islamic hadith)

2007-01-27 Thread Khazeh
I tried to send this I do not think it could be sent


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two comings of God

in a form other than His own Form

and in His own Form

[S.adru's. S.uduur says these two Comings refer to the Bab and Baha'u'llah

Chapter 81: THE WAY IN WHICH THE BELIEVERS WOULD SEE THE LORD 

 
 
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Book 001, Number 0349: 
Abu Haraira reported: The people said to the Messenger of Allah (God)  (may
peace be upon him): Messenger of Allah (God) , shall we see our Lord on the
Day of Resurrection? The Messenger of Allah (God)  (may peace be upon him)
said: Do you feel any trouble in seeing the moon on the night when it is
full? They said: Messenger of Allah (God) , no. He (the Messenger) further
said: Do you feel any trouble in seeing the sun, when there is no cloud over
it? They said: Messenger of Allah (God) . no. He (the Holy Prophet) said:
Verily you would see Him like this (as you see the sun and the moon). God
will gather people on the Day of Resurrection and say: Let every people
follow what they worshipped. Those who worshipped the sun would follow the
sun, and those who worshipped the moon would follow the moon, and those who
worshipped the devils would follow the devils. This Ummah (of Islam) alone
would be left behind and there would be hypocrites too amongst it. ALLAH
(GOD)  WOULD THEN COME TO THEM IN A FORM OTHER THAN HIS OWN FORM,
RECOGNISABLE TO THEM, AND WOULD SAY: I AM YOUR LORD. They would say: We take
refuge with Allah (God)  from thee. We will stay here till our Lord comes to
us. and when our Lord would come we would recognise Him. SUBSEQUENTLY ALLAH
(GOD)  WOULD COME TO THEM IN HIS OWN FORM, RECOGNISABLE TO THEM, AND SAY: I
AM YOUR LORD. They would say: Thou art our Lord. And they would follow Him,
and a bridge would be set over the Hell; and I (the Holy Prophet) and my
Ummah would be the first to pass over it; and none but the messengers would
speak on that day, and the prayer of the messengers on that day would be: O
Allah (God) ! grant safety, grant safety. In Hell, there would be long spits
like the thorns of Sa'dan He (the Holy Prophet) said: Have you seen Sa'dan?
They replied: Yes, Messenger of Allah (God) . He said: Verily those (hooks)
would be like the thorns of Sa'dan, but no one knows their size except Allah
(God) . These would seize people for their misdeeds. Some of them would
escape for their (good) deeds, and some would be rewarded for their deeds
till they get salvation. When Allah (God)  would finish judging His bondsmen
and because of His mercy decide to take out of Hell such people as He
pleases. He would command the angels to bring out those who had not
associated anything with Allah (God) ; to whom Allah (God)  decided to show
mercy. those who would say: There is no god but Allah (God) . They (the
angels) would recognise them in the Fire by the marks of prostration, for
Hell-fire will devour everything (limb) of the sons of Adam except the marks
of prostration. Allah (God)  has forbidden the fire to consume the marks of
prostration. They will be taken out of the Fire having been burnt, and the
water of life would be poured over them, and they will sprout as seed does
In the silt carried by flood.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim/001.smt.html#00
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. you will not face any difficulty in seeing your Lord but only so much as
you feel in seeing one of them



Abu Huraira reported that they (the Companions of the Holy Prophet) said:
Allah (God) 's Messenger, will we be able to see our Lord on the Day of
Judgment? He said: Do you feel any difficulty in seeing the sun in the noon
when there is no cloud over it? They said: No. He again said: Do you feel
any difficulty in seeing the moon on the fourteenth night when there is no
cloud over it? They said: No. Thereupon he said: By Allah (God)  Who is One
in Whose Hand is my life. you will not face any difficulty in seeing your
Lord but only so much as you feel in seeing one of them. Then Allah (God)
 would sit in judgment upon the servant and would say: O, so and so, did I
not honour you and make you the chief and provide you the spouse and subdue
for you horses, camels, and afforded you an opportunity 

Re: Luck and salvation

2007-01-27 Thread Sandra C.
Dear Barbara,

Perhaps this is the quote you are thinking of...

Sandra

He should forgive the sinful, and never despise his low estate, for none 
knoweth what his own end shall be. How often hath a sinner attained, at the 
hour of death, to the essence of faith, and, quaffing the immortal draught, 
hath taken his flight unto the Concourse on high! And how often hath a devout 
believer, at the hour of his soul's ascension, been so changed as to fall into 
the nethermost fire!

 

Baha'u'llah, Gleanings from the Writings of Bahá'u'lláh p. 263-268 - True Seeker



Barbara wrote:



 I don't know where I picked it up, but I recall reading/hearing that at the 
moment of death a person makes a choice to turn toward God or away from God. It 
doesn't matter how they lived their life, at that moment a choice is made. So 
someone who lived a life of service to the Faith can turn away from God, which 
I take to mean regrets leaving this life, and someone who lead a very material 
life can see the light and turn toward God at that moment. 


 
 
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