Re: BYTE Magazines

[Bill Degnan via cctalk]

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020, 3:07 AM jim stephens via cctalk 
wrote:

>
>
> On 6/4/2020 8:42 AM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
> >
> >
> > I'm looking for a photographic ad placed by ACP (Advanced Computer
> > Products).
> I want to thank Bill Degnan and Patrick Finnegan for solving this. At
> least I have the photo I was looking for.
>
> Bill offered kindly to scan any issue I need.  But Patrick found an ACP
> flyer which had the photo I recall, along with some other
> accomplishments on an insertion to a copy of Byte he had.
>
> I think the issue with the photo is still out there, but at least now
> I've got the photo.  I will put an update somewhere and point at it later.
>
> Much appreciate their help.
> Thanks
> Jim
>

Jim,
To clarify, I meant any page, not any issue.  I'd have to destroy the
magazine to scan it or it would take to long :-)
Bill

Re: BYTE Magazines

[jim stephens via cctalk]

On 6/4/2020 8:42 AM, jim stephens via cctalk wrote:



I'm looking for a photographic ad placed by ACP (Advanced Computer 
Products). 
I want to thank Bill Degnan and Patrick Finnegan for solving this. At 
least I have the photo I was looking for.


Bill offered kindly to scan any issue I need.  But Patrick found an ACP 
flyer which had the photo I recall, along with some other 
accomplishments on an insertion to a copy of Byte he had.


I think the issue with the photo is still out there, but at least now 
I've got the photo.  I will put an update somewhere and point at it later.


Much appreciate their help.
Thanks
Jim

Re: BYTE Magazines

[jim stephens via cctalk]

On 6/4/2020 2:46 PM, Boris Gimbarzevsky via cctech wrote:
Just had a look at file in hex editor and first  bytes are 0 
and then appears to be some type of image format after that.
There are three of the issues on the page which are damaged.  All have 
one or more copies available on archive dot org


they seem to have all suffered the same damage, a large chunk at the 
front zeroed out.


thanks
Jim

The corrupted ones:

198610_Byte_Magazine_Vol_11-11_Inside_the_IBM_PC.pdf
198806_Byte_Magazine_Vol_13-06_New_Benchmarks_Ultra_High-speed_Modems.pdf
and 198905_Byte_Magazine_Vol_14-05_Unix_CAD_and_Technology_Breakthroughs.pdf
are corrupted on the vintageapple.org web site

RE: BYTE Magazines

[Boris Gimbarzevsky via cctalk]

Just had a look at file in hex editor and first  bytes are 0 
and then appears to be some type of image format after that.


Suggests that parts recoverable.

Boris Gimbarzevsky


When I try, it says error, failed to download document.

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From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of 
Will Cooke via cctalk

Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 3:51 AM
To: Will Cooke via cctalk
Subject: Re: BYTE Magazines

> On June 3, 2020 at 5:29 PM "John H. Reinhardt via cctech" 
 wrote:

>
>
> > The ones at vintageapple.org are almost complete. Some of the 
scans are bad last time I checked (such as Oct 86 I think.) But 
that has almost all of them.> WillApparently they are complete.

>
>
> --John H. Reinhardt


does that mean you can download and view the Oct 86 "Inside the IBM PC" issue?


https://vintageapple.org/byte/pdf/198610_Byte_Magazine_Vol_11-11_Inside_the_IBM_PC.pdf


I can't.  There are several others with the same problem.


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Re: BYTE Magazines

[ED SHARPE via cctalk]

Makes  me  wish  for a larger building!  Very nice Wall!
In a message dated 6/4/2020 9:11:33 AM US Mountain Standard Time, 
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:

> Computer Museum of America might be interested.  They have a Byte wall.
> 
> http://www.myimagecollection.com/webpics/cmoabyte.jpg

RE: BYTE Magazines

[Will Cooke via cctalk]

> On June 4, 2020 at 9:56 AM Electronics Plus  wrote:
> 
> When I try, it says error, failed to download document.

That is what I get on that file as well as several others.  Someone mentioned 
most or all of them.  The scans that are there are quite good.  I emailed the 
maintainer(s) of that site to let them know twice, but never got any response.  
I'm not complaining, just stating the fact.  I VERY much appreciate the work 
they put into that.

My point was that I am not aware of any single place that has ALL Byte issues.  
It would be really nice if there was.

Will

Re: BYTE Magazines

[Lyle Bickley via cctalk]

On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 11:04:33 -0700
Donald via cctalk  wrote:

> Computer Museum of America might be interested.  They have a Byte wall.
> 
> http://www.myimagecollection.com/webpics/cmoabyte.jpg

Almost all of my vintage computer collection went to the CMoA (Computer
Museum of America - two 26' trucks worth). I offered them a complete set of
Byte - but they were not interested. There are a LOT of complete sets in the
hands of collectors and libraries.

Best,
Lyle

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Bickley Consulting West Inc.
https://bickleywest.com

"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"

Re: BYTE Magazines

[Bill Degnan via cctalk]

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:42 AM jim stephens via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

>
>
> On 6/4/2020 8:09 AM, Tor Arntsen via cctalk wrote:
> > 
> > Good PDF copies of the three can be found at archive.org though.
> >
> There are three sets of scans of some editions.
>
> I'm looking for a photographic ad placed by ACP (Advanced Computer
> Products).  It's supposed to be back cover or inside back cover (I've
> also looked inside the front).
>
> There's an ad similar to the Jameco, Jade, etc with all the components
> and crap, but for a while, they took out a second ad.
>
> I've looked at a lot of these again, looking for the ad.
>
> The photo is of the ACP Swapmeet going full tilt.  If you look at the
> person in the very center looking at the camera, that's me. Would love a
> copy.
>
> Photo was by Dave Freeman, who is still a fantastic photographer.
>
> I've checked with Tom and Dave Freeman, and they remember it, but not
> the when.
>
> I guessed it was around the time of the fight with Apple over mail order
> sales (which resulted in a lawsuit, which ACP lost).  They did move to a
> dual full page ad, a couple pages inside the back, which is a premium
> spot, but I didn't find any second ad or anything on the back cover.
>
> thanks
> Jim
>

I have a complete set of the Byte magazines (and Kilobaud, Dr. Dobbs, Radio
Electronics, Micro, 6502 Journal...), if you can't find what you're looking
for online I can scan it for you, but I need to know the year/volume/page.
Bill Degnan

Re: BYTE Magazines

[jim stephens via cctalk]

On 6/4/2020 8:09 AM, Tor Arntsen via cctalk wrote:


Good PDF copies of the three can be found at archive.org though.


There are three sets of scans of some editions.

I'm looking for a photographic ad placed by ACP (Advanced Computer 
Products).  It's supposed to be back cover or inside back cover (I've 
also looked inside the front).


There's an ad similar to the Jameco, Jade, etc with all the components 
and crap, but for a while, they took out a second ad.


I've looked at a lot of these again, looking for the ad.

The photo is of the ACP Swapmeet going full tilt.  If you look at the 
person in the very center looking at the camera, that's me. Would love a 
copy.


Photo was by Dave Freeman, who is still a fantastic photographer.

I've checked with Tom and Dave Freeman, and they remember it, but not 
the when.


I guessed it was around the time of the fight with Apple over mail order 
sales (which resulted in a lawsuit, which ACP lost).  They did move to a 
dual full page ad, a couple pages inside the back, which is a premium 
spot, but I didn't find any second ad or anything on the back cover.


thanks
Jim

Re: BYTE Magazines

[Tor Arntsen via cctalk]

> https://vintageapple.org/byte/pdf/198610_Byte_Magazine_Vol_11-11_Inside_the_IBM_PC.pdf

That one, plus 
198806_Byte_Magazine_Vol_13-06_New_Benchmarks_Ultra_High-speed_Modems.pdf
and 198905_Byte_Magazine_Vol_14-05_Unix_CAD_and_Technology_Breakthroughs.pdf
are corrupted on the vintageapple.org web site (shows up as 'data'
instead of "PDF document" if you do a "file" on them). If there are
others I don't know, but at least the rest are detected as PDF.

Good PDF copies of the three can be found at archive.org though.

RE: BYTE Magazines

[Electronics Plus via cctalk]

When I try, it says error, failed to download document.

-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Will Cooke via 
cctalk
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2020 3:51 AM
To: Will Cooke via cctalk
Subject: Re: BYTE Magazines

> On June 3, 2020 at 5:29 PM "John H. Reinhardt via cctech" 
>  wrote:
>
>
> > The ones at vintageapple.org are almost complete. Some of the scans are bad 
> > last time I checked (such as Oct 86 I think.) But that has almost all of 
> > them.> WillApparently they are complete.
>
>
> --John H. Reinhardt


does that mean you can download and view the Oct 86 "Inside the IBM PC" issue?


https://vintageapple.org/byte/pdf/198610_Byte_Magazine_Vol_11-11_Inside_the_IBM_PC.pdf


I can't.  There are several others with the same problem.


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Re: BYTE Magazines

[ED SHARPE via cctalk]

Looking though  some of  these BYTE sites your mileage varies

The apple one think had  the  hp 150 issue with a nasty glare on it alas... 
Be sure you check several sites  to  get the best you can  get.All depends on 
what you are seeking too something  to go in a display or just read an 
article.
Ed#
In a message dated 6/4/2020 2:00:20 AM US Mountain Standard Time, 
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:

On Thu, 04 Jun 2020 10:51:27 +0200, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote:
> does that mean you can download and view the Oct 86 "Inside the IBM PC" issue?


The file seems broken on the "apple" site but this one works:

https://ia803009.us.archive.org/13/items/eu_BYTE-1986-fall-3-IBM_special_OCR/BYTE-1986-fall-3-IBM_special_OCR.pdf

/Tomas

Re: BYTE Magazines

[Tomas By via cctalk]

On Thu, 04 Jun 2020 10:51:27 +0200, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote:
> does that mean you can download and view the Oct 86 "Inside the IBM PC" issue?


The file seems broken on the "apple" site but this one works:

https://ia803009.us.archive.org/13/items/eu_BYTE-1986-fall-3-IBM_special_OCR/BYTE-1986-fall-3-IBM_special_OCR.pdf

/Tomas

Re: BYTE Magazines

[Will Cooke via cctalk]

> On June 3, 2020 at 5:29 PM "John H. Reinhardt via cctech" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> > The ones at vintageapple.org are almost complete. Some of the scans are bad 
> > last time I checked (such as Oct 86 I think.) But that has almost all of 
> > them.> WillApparently they are complete.
> 
> 
> --John H. Reinhardt


does that mean you can download and view the Oct 86 "Inside the IBM PC" issue?


https://vintageapple.org/byte/pdf/198610_Byte_Magazine_Vol_11-11_Inside_the_IBM_PC.pdf


I can't.  There are several others with the same problem.

Re: BYTE Magazines

[Boris Gimbarzevsky via cctalk]

Will, thanks for that link to Mac books.  My Inside MacIntosh books 
suffered water damage when had a flood in room they were stored and 
nice to have information as a pdf files.  Prefer actual books with my 
annotations, but now just use virtual Mac running under 
BasiliskII.  Judge how fast computers can become when, under 
BasiliskII run a virtual MacIIvx in which run a DOS emulation so can 
run a C64 emulation under DOS considerably faster than a physical C64.


Had an extensive collection of Byte magazines that unfortunately had 
to go.  Main thing I liked in Byte was Steve Ciarcia's column and 
still have all my Circuit Cellar magazines and bought a backup 
flashdrive with all Circuit cellar content from start.  Seems to be 
the way to go with magazines as much easier for me to find a 
particular Circuit Cellar article on the flash drive than trying to 
remember in which room/box that particular issue might be located.


Boris Gimbarzevsky

> On June 3, 2020 at 2:22 PM John Herron via cctalk 
 wrote:

>
> I'm not quickly finding it but weren't there some magazines 
missing or hasit been decided all are scanned and it usable 
quality? I see one listhttps://vintageapple.org/byte/ and 
archive.org also has a collection butthey weren't in order in my browser.

> >>>>

The ones at vintageapple.org are almost complete.  Some of the scans 
are bad last time I checked (such as Oct 86 I think.) But that has 
almost all of them.


Will

Re: BYTE Magazines

[Richard Sheppard via cctalk]

That photo is the perfect opportunity to mention the wonderful cover art by 
Robert Tinney.

Richard
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Re: BYTE Magazines

[John H. Reinhardt via cctalk]

On 6/3/2020 2:30 PM, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote:

On June 3, 2020 at 2:22 PM John Herron via cctalk  wrote:

I'm not quickly finding it but weren't there some magazines missing or hasit 
been decided all are scanned and it usable quality? I see one 
listhttps://vintageapple.org/byte/ and archive.org also has a collection 
butthey weren't in order in my browser.

The ones at vintageapple.org are almost complete.  Some of the scans are bad 
last time I checked (such as Oct 86 I think.) But that has almost all of them.

Will


Apparently they are complete.


*2/11/19*: Last 8 issues of Byte Magazine added; the Byte archive is now complete. 
Many thanks to The National Museum of Computing in Canada for providing 4 of the 
mising issues. (Please consider donating to them 
 to support computer history.)


Lots of good Mac stuff there I didn't know about.  Looks like I can offload my 
10 boxes of Mac System 6 and System 7 programming manuals and books to someone 
that wants hardcopy.  Everything I have is in PDF on that site now.

--
John H. Reinhardt

RE: BYTE Magazines

[Tom Gardner via cctalk]

My understanding is that the Computer History Museum has a complete bound set - 
maybe Al can confirm

And there is likely a fairly complete set at Stanford's GSB periodicals 
collection.

Other computer or technical history museums might want a fairly complete set; 
e.g., Charles Babbage Institute, and u would have to check them one by one.

Tom

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Parker [mailto:tras...@internode.on.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 4:15 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: BYTE Magazines

I know the response to this might be quite subjective and depends on your 
particular interests.

Do BYTE magazines have any collectability (maybe even from a historical 
perspective or something else)?

I have to make some decisions about space (the perennial problem for a 
collector of course) and I have quite a few of these taking up a few shelves.

Thank you.


Kevin Parker

Re: BYTE Magazines

[Will Cooke via cctalk]

> On June 3, 2020 at 2:22 PM John Herron via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm not quickly finding it but weren't there some magazines missing or hasit 
> been decided all are scanned and it usable quality? I see one 
> listhttps://vintageapple.org/byte/ and archive.org also has a collection 
> butthey weren't in order in my browser.
> 

The ones at vintageapple.org are almost complete.  Some of the scans are bad 
last time I checked (such as Oct 86 I think.) But that has almost all of them.

Will

Re: BYTE Magazines

[John Herron via cctalk]

I'm not quickly finding it but weren't there some magazines missing or has
it been decided all are scanned and it usable quality? I see one list
https://vintageapple.org/byte/ and archive.org also has a collection but
they weren't in order in my browser.

On Wed, Jun 3, 2020, 1:19 AM ED SHARPE via cctalk 
wrote:

> My  favorite BYTE   issue  had  the HP 150 on the  cover.  It  changed
> the  entire  direction of  a segment of my business.
> My very first issues  of BYTE and Kilobaud were  a  gift from Ray Morrison
> of  Ill. Bell Teletype  fame
> In today's world at the SMECC museum project  BYTE and KILOBAUD and
> other  serve  as a reference  source and  we  have bound  sets of  them
>  and  some   loose  ones that  are easier to put in a scanner . The  bound
> issues are  better  to   flip  through.  They are  also  great  to scan out
> of  and a certain amount of up sizing  can be  done  to imagery to be
> integrated into displays
> Ed#
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 6/2/2020 8:35:43 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 7:15 PM Kevin Parker via cctalk
>  wrote:
> > Do BYTE magazines have any collectability (maybe even from a historical
> > perspective or something else)?
>
> I know certain ones are sought after based on specific contributors or
> specific machines gracing the cover (Amiga, Apple, etc.)  I'd say
> "value" fluctuates wildly and is definitely subjective.
>
> In my personal case, I'm fond of the issues before the PC took over
> because I started reading it in the early 80s and even though I didn't
> have a CP/M machine, I still read those articles with fascination (I
> devoured the hardware articles by Steve Ciarcia and others and
> anything for the PET or could be adapted to the PET).  Specific ones,
> like the launch of the Amiga 3000 aside, I am not as interested in
> anything past the end of the 80s.
>
> Other people will have completely different opinions based on what
> content tickles them.
>
> Except for, say, the first few issues, it's not like they aren't
> somewhat abundant - issues were preserved by a lot of people.  I am on
> my second set because I lost most of my originals in a flood 25 years
> ago.  I did a rescue and was asked if I wanted 4 bankers boxes of
> Byte Magazines going back to the late 70s.  How could I resist.
>
> As mentioned, many of them have been digitized and I do reference the
> PDFs a lot, but I still like the paper and being able to flop open to
> an ad or schematic and leave it open for reference.
>
> > I have to make some decisions about space (the perennial problem for a
> > collector of course) and I have quite a few of these taking up a few
> > shelves.
>
> Sure.  That's always the challenge.  I wish I had a better place for
> mine, but I'll have to rearrange a few things first.
>
> -ethan
>
>

Re: BYTE Magazines

[Bill Degnan via cctalk]

Looks cool, may already have them though, eh?

On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 2:04 PM Donald via cctalk 
wrote:

> Computer Museum of America might be interested.  They have a Byte wall.
>
> http://www.myimagecollection.com/webpics/cmoabyte.jpg
>
>
>
> Contact Lonnie Mimms  lon...@mimms.com to see if he has any interest.
>
>
>
> Donald
>
>
>
>

Re: BYTE Magazines

[Donald via cctalk]

Computer Museum of America might be interested.  They have a Byte wall.

http://www.myimagecollection.com/webpics/cmoabyte.jpg

 

Contact Lonnie Mimms  lon...@mimms.com to see if he has any interest.

 

Donald

 

Re: BYTE Magazines

[ED SHARPE via cctalk]

My  favorite BYTE   issue  had  the HP 150 on the  cover.  It  changed  the  
entire  direction of  a segment of my business.
My very first issues  of BYTE and Kilobaud were  a  gift from Ray Morrison of  
Ill. Bell Teletype  fame
In today's world at the SMECC museum project  BYTE and KILOBAUD and  other  
serve  as a reference  source and  we  have bound  sets of  them   and  some   
loose  ones that  are easier to put in a scanner . The  bound issues are  
better  to   flip  through.  They are  also  great  to scan out of  and a 
certain amount of up sizing  can be  done  to imagery to be integrated into 
displays
Ed# 








In a message dated 6/2/2020 8:35:43 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 7:15 PM Kevin Parker via cctalk
 wrote:
> Do BYTE magazines have any collectability (maybe even from a historical
> perspective or something else)?

I know certain ones are sought after based on specific contributors or
specific machines gracing the cover (Amiga, Apple, etc.)  I'd say
"value" fluctuates wildly and is definitely subjective.

In my personal case, I'm fond of the issues before the PC took over
because I started reading it in the early 80s and even though I didn't
have a CP/M machine, I still read those articles with fascination (I
devoured the hardware articles by Steve Ciarcia and others and
anything for the PET or could be adapted to the PET).  Specific ones,
like the launch of the Amiga 3000 aside, I am not as interested in
anything past the end of the 80s.

Other people will have completely different opinions based on what
content tickles them.

Except for, say, the first few issues, it's not like they aren't
somewhat abundant - issues were preserved by a lot of people.  I am on
my second set because I lost most of my originals in a flood 25 years
ago.  I did a rescue and was asked if I wanted 4 bankers boxes of
Byte Magazines going back to the late 70s.  How could I resist.

As mentioned, many of them have been digitized and I do reference the
PDFs a lot, but I still like the paper and being able to flop open to
an ad or schematic and leave it open for reference.

> I have to make some decisions about space (the perennial problem for a
> collector of course) and I have quite a few of these taking up a few
> shelves.

Sure.  That's always the challenge.  I wish I had a better place for
mine, but I'll have to rearrange a few things first.

-ethan

Re: BYTE Magazines

[Ethan Dicks via cctalk]

On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 7:15 PM Kevin Parker via cctalk
 wrote:
> Do BYTE magazines have any collectability (maybe even from a historical
> perspective or something else)?

I know certain ones are sought after based on specific contributors or
specific machines gracing the cover (Amiga, Apple, etc.)  I'd say
"value" fluctuates wildly and is definitely subjective.

In my personal case, I'm fond of the issues before the PC took over
because I started reading it in the early 80s and even though I didn't
have a CP/M machine, I still read those articles with fascination (I
devoured the hardware articles by Steve Ciarcia and others and
anything for the PET or could be adapted to the PET).  Specific ones,
like the launch of the Amiga 3000 aside, I am not as interested in
anything past the end of the 80s.

Other people will have completely different opinions based on what
content tickles them.

Except for, say, the first few issues, it's not like they aren't
somewhat abundant - issues were preserved by a lot of people.  I am on
my second set because I lost most of my originals in a flood 25 years
ago.   I did a rescue and was asked if I wanted 4 bankers boxes of
Byte Magazines going back to the late 70s.  How could I resist.

As mentioned, many of them have been digitized and I do reference the
PDFs a lot, but I still like the paper and being able to flop open to
an ad or schematic and leave it open for reference.

> I have to make some decisions about space (the perennial problem for a
> collector of course) and I have quite a few of these taking up a few
> shelves.

Sure.  That's always the challenge.  I wish I had a better place for
mine, but I'll have to rearrange a few things first.

-ethan

Re: BYTE Magazines

[Tomas By via cctalk]

> On 02/06/2020 19:15, Kevin Parker via cctalk wrote:
> > Do BYTE magazines have any collectability (maybe even from a
> > historical perspective or something else)?

On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 01:18:31 +0200, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote:
> Actually, yes.


Quite a few are available on archive.org, but I would guess the
hardcopies are valuable also (depending on condition etc).

/Tomas

Re: BYTE Magazines

[Nigel Johnson via cctalk]

Actually, yes.  I had the first two years of them bound - the first 
issue sold to me personally by Wayne Green, and let them go for a song 
.  A couple of years later each bound edition was advertised for $200 - 
that was in 1995 prices!


No idea wha tthey woul dbe worth now.

cheers,

NIgel


On 02/06/2020 19:15, Kevin Parker via cctalk wrote:
I know the response to this might be quite subjective and depends on 
your particular interests.


Do BYTE magazines have any collectability (maybe even from a 
historical perspective or something else)?


I have to make some decisions about space (the perennial problem for a 
collector of course) and I have quite a few of these taking up a few 
shelves.


Thank you.


Kevin Parker


 


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BYTE Magazines

[Kevin Parker via cctalk]

I know the response to this might be quite subjective and depends on 
your particular interests.


Do BYTE magazines have any collectability (maybe even from a historical 
perspective or something else)?


I have to make some decisions about space (the perennial problem for a 
collector of course) and I have quite a few of these taking up a few 
shelves.


Thank you.


Kevin Parker