Re: OpenVMS software repositories?

2018-02-09 Thread Michael-John Turner via cctalk

On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 03:30:17AM +, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:

On Feb 7, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk  
wrote:
I'd suggest that you redirect your question to the comp.os.vms 
newsgroup.  I frequently see discussions there about software archives. 
In fact, you can probably search an archive of the group and find some 
answers to your question.


I need to see about getting back on comp.os.vms, I???ve not been active there 
in a decade.


There's also the info-vax mailing list, which is a mail<->Usenet gateway 
for comp.os.vms.


[1] http://info-vax.com/mailman/listinfo/info-vax_info-vax.com

Cheers, MJ
--
Michael-John Turner * m...@mjturner.net * http://mjturner.net/ 



Re: OpenVMS software repositories?

2018-02-08 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk

> On Feb 8, 2018, at 8:02 AM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 2/8/2018 9:56 AM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote:
>> You might try  . I don't know if tin will 
>> work, but it's recommended by Hoff and others.  It's free and reasonably 
>> frustration free.  They have had a couple server hiccups in the last year 
>> though.  I use it via Thunderbird on my Mac without too much trouble.
> 
> Apparently tin will work. It's listed under their "FAQ" section as possibly 
> needing a special tweak.
> 
> tin
> add the following line to the .newsauth file in your home directory (or 
> create the file, if it doesn't exist) and make sure the file is only readable 
> and writable for your user (chmod .newsauth 600):
> 
> news.eternal-september.org password username
> 
> and start tin with the -A option

Thanks!  If it’s recommended by Hoff, that’s good enough for me. :-)  I had to 
rebuild ‘tin’ as the version in the ports for OpenBSD doesn’t seem to work.  
I’m now connected and reading through comp.os.vms. :-)  It’s good to see how 
many of the folks I remember are still there.

Zane





Re: OpenVMS software repositories?

2018-02-08 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk

On 02/08/2018 08:39 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
I’m sure.  I just need to figure out how to get access, preferably 
with ’tin'.  One of the reasons I dropped off was time, another was 
my ISP dropping USENET access.


There are a number of free Usenet test-only servers, and a number of 
next to free binary feeds for text-only volumes.


 - Eternal-September (purportedly has issues from time to time)
 - AIOE

Those are the two that come to mind at the moment.

If that doesn't work for you let me know and I'll set you up with an 
account on my personal news server.




--
Grant. . . .
unix || die


Re: OpenVMS software repositories?

2018-02-08 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk


On 02/08/2018 11:02 AM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote:
> On 2/8/2018 9:56 AM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote:
>> On 2/8/2018 9:39 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>>>
 On Feb 8, 2018, at 5:28 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk 
  wrote:

 On 02/07/2018 10:30 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>> On Feb 7, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> On 02/07/2018 06:35 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>>> What sites still exist that have VMS software?  I know the about 
>>> the OpenVMS Freeware CD’s from HP VMS Engineering.
>> I'd suggest that you redirect your question to the comp.os.vms 
>> newsgroup.  I frequently see discussions there about software 
>> archives. In fact, you can probably search an archive of the 
>> group and find some answers to your question.
> I need to see about getting back on comp.os.vms, I’ve not been 
> active there in a decade.
>
>

 Don't worry, it hasn't changed a bit.  :-)

 bill
>>>
>>> I’m sure.  I just need to figure out how to get access, preferably 
>>> with ’tin'.  One of the reasons I dropped off was time, another was 
>>> my ISP dropping USENET access.
>>>
>>> Zane
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You might try  . I don't know if 
>> tin will work, but it's recommended by Hoff and others. It's free and 
>> reasonably frustration free.  They have had a couple server hiccups 
>> in the last year though.  I use it via Thunderbird on my Mac without 
>> too much trouble.
>>
>
> Apparently tin will work. It's listed under their "FAQ" section as 
> possibly needing a special tweak.
>
> tin
> add the following line to the .newsauth file in your home directory 
> (or create the file, if it doesn't exist) and make sure the file is 
> only readable and writable for your user (chmod .newsauth 600):
>
> news.eternal-september.org password username
>
> and start tin with the -A option
>
>
>
I recommended new.individual.net.  It isn't free, but 10 Euros a year
isn't really a concern.  (I spend more than that a month on beer!)
Service has always been great.  Been with them since the days when
it was U Berlin.

bill




Re: OpenVMS software repositories?

2018-02-08 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk

On 2/8/2018 9:56 AM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote:

On 2/8/2018 9:39 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:



On Feb 8, 2018, at 5:28 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk  
wrote:

On 02/07/2018 10:30 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:

On Feb 7, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk  
wrote:

On 02/07/2018 06:35 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:

What sites still exist that have VMS software?  I know the about the OpenVMS 
Freeware CD’s from HP VMS Engineering.

I'd suggest that you redirect your question to the comp.os.vms newsgroup.  I 
frequently see discussions there about software archives. In fact, you can 
probably search an archive of the group and find some answers to your question.

I need to see about getting back on comp.os.vms, I’ve not been active there in 
a decade.




Don't worry, it hasn't changed a bit.  :-)

bill


I’m sure.  I just need to figure out how to get access, preferably with ’tin'.  
One of the reasons I dropped off was time, another was my ISP dropping USENET 
access.

Zane





You might try  . I don't know if tin will 
work, but it's recommended by Hoff and others.  It's free and reasonably frustration 
free.  They have had a couple server hiccups in the last year though.  I use it via 
Thunderbird on my Mac without too much trouble.



Apparently tin will work. It's listed under their "FAQ" section as possibly 
needing a special tweak.

tin
add the following line to the .newsauth file in your home directory (or create 
the file, if it doesn't exist) and make sure the file is only readable and 
writable for your user (chmod .newsauth 600):

news.eternal-september.org password username

and start tin with the -A option



--
John H. Reinhardt


R: OpenVMS software repositories?

2018-02-08 Thread Mazzini Alessandro via cctalk
Tin user here.

Just use : diesel.cu.mi.it  as usenet server
(another alternative would be registering for a free free.xsusenet.com account, 
but that one needs to be renewed every few weeks. Anyway they warn and send a 
link every time)

-Messaggio originale-
Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di Zane Healy via 
cctalk
Inviato: giovedì 8 febbraio 2018 16:40
A: Bill Gunshannon; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Oggetto: Re: OpenVMS software repositories?


> On Feb 8, 2018, at 5:28 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk 
> <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> 
> On 02/07/2018 10:30 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>>> On Feb 7, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 02/07/2018 06:35 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>>>> What sites still exist that have VMS software?  I know the about the 
>>>> OpenVMS Freeware CD’s from HP VMS Engineering.
>>> I'd suggest that you redirect your question to the comp.os.vms newsgroup.  
>>> I frequently see discussions there about software archives. In fact, you 
>>> can probably search an archive of the group and find some answers to your 
>>> question.
>> I need to see about getting back on comp.os.vms, I’ve not been active there 
>> in a decade.
>> 
>> 
> 
> Don't worry, it hasn't changed a bit.  :-)
> 
> bill

I’m sure.  I just need to figure out how to get access, preferably with ’tin'.  
One of the reasons I dropped off was time, another was my ISP dropping USENET 
access.

Zane




Re: OpenVMS software repositories?

2018-02-08 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk

On 2/8/2018 9:39 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:



On Feb 8, 2018, at 5:28 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk  
wrote:

On 02/07/2018 10:30 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:

On Feb 7, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk  
wrote:

On 02/07/2018 06:35 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:

What sites still exist that have VMS software?  I know the about the OpenVMS 
Freeware CD’s from HP VMS Engineering.

I'd suggest that you redirect your question to the comp.os.vms newsgroup.  I 
frequently see discussions there about software archives. In fact, you can 
probably search an archive of the group and find some answers to your question.

I need to see about getting back on comp.os.vms, I’ve not been active there in 
a decade.




Don't worry, it hasn't changed a bit.  :-)

bill


I’m sure.  I just need to figure out how to get access, preferably with ’tin'.  
One of the reasons I dropped off was time, another was my ISP dropping USENET 
access.

Zane





You might try  . I don't know if tin will 
work, but it's recommended by Hoff and others.  It's free and reasonably frustration 
free.  They have had a couple server hiccups in the last year though.  I use it via 
Thunderbird on my Mac without too much trouble.

--
John H. Reinhardt


Re: OpenVMS software repositories?

2018-02-08 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk

> On Feb 8, 2018, at 5:28 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 02/07/2018 10:30 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>>> On Feb 7, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 02/07/2018 06:35 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
 What sites still exist that have VMS software?  I know the about the 
 OpenVMS Freeware CD’s from HP VMS Engineering.
>>> I'd suggest that you redirect your question to the comp.os.vms newsgroup.  
>>> I frequently see discussions there about software archives. In fact, you 
>>> can probably search an archive of the group and find some answers to your 
>>> question.
>> I need to see about getting back on comp.os.vms, I’ve not been active there 
>> in a decade.
>> 
>> 
> 
> Don't worry, it hasn't changed a bit.  :-)
> 
> bill

I’m sure.  I just need to figure out how to get access, preferably with ’tin'.  
One of the reasons I dropped off was time, another was my ISP dropping USENET 
access.

Zane




Re: OpenVMS software repositories?

2018-02-08 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk


On 02/07/2018 10:30 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>> On Feb 7, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk  
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 02/07/2018 06:35 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>>> What sites still exist that have VMS software?  I know the about the 
>>> OpenVMS Freeware CD’s from HP VMS Engineering.
>> I'd suggest that you redirect your question to the comp.os.vms newsgroup.  I 
>> frequently see discussions there about software archives. In fact, you can 
>> probably search an archive of the group and find some answers to your 
>> question.
> I need to see about getting back on comp.os.vms, I’ve not been active there 
> in a decade.
>
>

Don't worry, it hasn't changed a bit.  :-)

bill



Re: OpenVMS software repositories?

2018-02-08 Thread Robert via cctalk
If it's of any interest, I recently found a copy of WordPerfect 7 for
OpenVMS. I'd be happy to upload an ISO, if one isn't already available
everywhere.

On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 9:30 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk
 wrote:
>
>> On Feb 7, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk  
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 02/07/2018 06:35 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>>> What sites still exist that have VMS software?  I know the about the 
>>> OpenVMS Freeware CD’s from HP VMS Engineering.
>>
>> I'd suggest that you redirect your question to the comp.os.vms newsgroup.  I 
>> frequently see discussions there about software archives. In fact, you can 
>> probably search an archive of the group and find some answers to your 
>> question.
>
> I need to see about getting back on comp.os.vms, I’ve not been active there 
> in a decade.
>
> Zane
>
>
>
>


Re: OpenVMS software repositories?

2018-02-07 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk

> On Feb 7, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> On 02/07/2018 06:35 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>> What sites still exist that have VMS software?  I know the about the OpenVMS 
>> Freeware CD’s from HP VMS Engineering.
> 
> I'd suggest that you redirect your question to the comp.os.vms newsgroup.  I 
> frequently see discussions there about software archives. In fact, you can 
> probably search an archive of the group and find some answers to your 
> question.

I need to see about getting back on comp.os.vms, I’ve not been active there in 
a decade.

Zane






Re: OpenVMS software repositories?

2018-02-07 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk

> On Feb 7, 2018, at 7:05 PM, Carlos E Murillo-Sanchez 
>  wrote:
> 
> Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
>> What sites still exist that have VMS software?  I know the about the OpenVMS 
>> Freeware CD’s from HP VMS Engineering.
>> 
>> http://h41379.www4.hpe.com/openvms/freeware/collections.html
>> 
>> As an example, I’ve found part of the old DECwindows archive, but it looks 
>> like that site is basically gone.
>> 
> Probably not what you are looking for, but these are handy:
> 
> http://nchrem.tnw.tudelft.nl/openvms/software2.html
> http://de.openvms.org/OpenVMS-Ports/list.php?by=Category
> 
> carlos.
> 

WOW!!!  That first one is quite impressive, though it’s a shame they aren’t 
offering binaries.

The second one looks most promising.  I’ll have to see about getting SQLite3 
running on my VAX and Alpha systems, as that might be the answer to my one 
problem.

This actually makes me want an Itanium system.

Zane





Re: OpenVMS software repositories?

2018-02-07 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk

On 02/07/2018 06:35 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
What sites still exist that have VMS software?  I know the about the 
OpenVMS Freeware CD’s from HP VMS Engineering.


I'd suggest that you redirect your question to the comp.os.vms 
newsgroup.  I frequently see discussions there about software archives. 
In fact, you can probably search an archive of the group and find some 
answers to your question.




--
Grant. . . .
unix || die


Re: OpenVMS software repositories?

2018-02-07 Thread Carlos E Murillo-Sanchez via cctalk

Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:

What sites still exist that have VMS software?  I know the about the OpenVMS 
Freeware CD’s from HP VMS Engineering.

http://h41379.www4.hpe.com/openvms/freeware/collections.html

As an example, I’ve found part of the old DECwindows archive, but it looks like 
that site is basically gone.


Probably not what you are looking for, but these are handy:

http://nchrem.tnw.tudelft.nl/openvms/software2.html
http://de.openvms.org/OpenVMS-Ports/list.php?by=Category

carlos.



OpenVMS software repositories?

2018-02-07 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
What sites still exist that have VMS software?  I know the about the OpenVMS 
Freeware CD’s from HP VMS Engineering.  

http://h41379.www4.hpe.com/openvms/freeware/collections.html

As an example, I’ve found part of the old DECwindows archive, but it looks like 
that site is basically gone.

Zane