RE: 9-Track Magtape Drive ID

2019-06-02 Thread Steve Malikoff via cctalk
Henk said
> Regarding the rubber rings on the hubs of the tape drive, I remember that 
> somebody
> once told that when the rubber tension is weak (because the ring diameter got 
> a bit
> bigger, you can get the ring back to its original shape by putting it in warm 
> water.

I tried this. It didn't work, at all. I had a few sizes of nitrile O-rings I 
use for
another purpose (micro lathe drive belts) and tried a range, the BS336 as 
mentioned
worked perfectly. It may perhaps work for other brands of tape unit if the hub 
pinch
clamp arrangement is the same diameter but that is for someone else to try.

Steve.



RE: 9-Track Magtape Drive ID

2019-06-02 Thread Henk Gooijen via cctalk



Van: Mark J. Blair via cctalk<mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>
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Onderwerp: Re: 9-Track Magtape Drive ID

> On Jun 1, 2019, at 14:57, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> Is this the system that was on Reddit?

Yes. I’ll be fetching it next weekend. I’m excited! I wonder if the hard drive 
is still usable, and if there is anything interesting on it?

By a chance meeting with my neighbor today, I learned he has a bunch of pallet 
racking from a defunct business he emptied out. He offered that I could go grab 
some for myself. He also mentioned that he planned to bring some to his farm 
next door to me before he sells off the rest. Since I’m planning to rent a 
truck next weekend anyway, I offered to help out by hauling for both of us in 
exchange for taking a skim off the top of the pile. It’ll be a busy weekend!

--
Mark J. Blair 
http://www.nf6x.net

Mark, you probably know …
It is best to get a truck with a tail lift. Then you can roll the entire rack 
into the truck.
No hassle with disassembly and making notoes how everything was routed.
BTW, the disk drive in the bottom is *heavy*. You could lift it by yourself, 
but that
Is not very clever. Better lift it with two persons. The same goed for the 
Kennedy
tape drive – heavy!  And the 11/34, in a 10.5” box will be heavy at the rear 
side
where the transformer and power supplies are.
So, disassembly will give you 3 heavy items best lifted by 2 guys. Leaving it 
in the
rack and pay a bit more for a truck with tail lift, is a wise decision for your 
back!

Regarding the rubber rings on the hubs of the tape drive, I remember that 
somebody
once told that when the rubber tension is weak (because the ring diameter got a 
bit
bigger, you can get the ring back to its original shape by putting it in warm 
water.
Worth a try if needed …

Henk, PA8PDP



Re: 9-Track Magtape Drive ID

2019-06-01 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk



> On Jun 1, 2019, at 4:22 PM, Steve Malikoff via cctalk  
> wrote:
> 
> BTW If the old rubber rings one the hubs are too
> expanded and won't allow a tape reel to slide on, just replace with a # BS336 
> O-ring
> from a bearings/seals/gasket shop. These are cheap, readily available and 
> takes seconds
> to install for a perfect fit.

Thanks! That's bound to be helpful advice... if not now, then someday in the 
future.

-- 
Mark J. Blair 
http://www.nf6x.net/



Re: 9-Track Magtape Drive ID

2019-06-01 Thread Steve Malikoff via cctalk
Mark said
> Does anybody here recognize the make and model of this tape drive?
>
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7_mfdfUIAMcTly.jpg
>
> --
> Mark J. Blair, NF6X 
> http://www.nf6x.net/

As Al said, Kennedy 9000.
Slide the test buttons door panel upwards on the top left and all will be 
revealed :)

I racked one of these a fortnight ago. BTW If the old rubber rings one the hubs 
are too
expanded and won't allow a tape reel to slide on, just replace with a # BS336 
O-ring
from a bearings/seals/gasket shop. These are cheap, readily available and takes 
seconds
to install for a perfect fit.

Steve.



Re: 9-Track Magtape Drive ID

2019-06-01 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> On Jun 1, 2019, at 15:27, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> 
> Congrats!!  Should be fun to play with.  I just picked up a Micro PDP-11/53 
> which is about the biggest I can fit into my office/computer room.  lol
> 

Neat! I’d like to get a PDP-11 in that form factor someday. 


Re: 9-Track Magtape Drive ID

2019-06-01 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk

On 6/1/2019 5:24 PM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote:

On Jun 1, 2019, at 14:57, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk  
wrote:
Is this the system that was on Reddit?

Yes. I’ll be fetching it next weekend. I’m excited! I wonder if the hard drive 
is still usable, and if there is anything interesting on it?

By a chance meeting with my neighbor today, I learned he has a bunch of pallet 
racking from a defunct business he emptied out. He offered that I could go grab 
some for myself. He also mentioned that he planned to bring some to his farm 
next door to me before he sells off the rest. Since I’m planning to rent a 
truck next weekend anyway, I offered to help out by hauling for both of us in 
exchange for taking a skim off the top of the pile. It’ll be a busy weekend!

--
Mark J. Blair 
http://www.nf6x.net



Congrats!!  Should be fun to play with.  I just picked up a Micro PDP-11/53 
which is about the biggest I can fit into my office/computer room.  lol

--
John H. Reinhardt
  PRRT  #8909
  C HS  #11530
  N-Trak   #7566



Re: 9-Track Magtape Drive ID

2019-06-01 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> On Jun 1, 2019, at 14:57, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk 
>  wrote:
> Is this the system that was on Reddit?

Yes. I’ll be fetching it next weekend. I’m excited! I wonder if the hard drive 
is still usable, and if there is anything interesting on it?

By a chance meeting with my neighbor today, I learned he has a bunch of pallet 
racking from a defunct business he emptied out. He offered that I could go grab 
some for myself. He also mentioned that he planned to bring some to his farm 
next door to me before he sells off the rest. Since I’m planning to rent a 
truck next weekend anyway, I offered to help out by hauling for both of us in 
exchange for taking a skim off the top of the pile. It’ll be a busy weekend!

--
Mark J. Blair 
http://www.nf6x.net



Re: 9-Track Magtape Drive ID

2019-06-01 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk

On 6/1/2019 1:23 PM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote:

Thanks!

I am taking the whole system. It's in a rack with a PDP-11/34A, a System 
Industries 9400 controller, and what looks to me like a Fujitsu M228x series 
hard drive:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D77fRMFU0AEQtSO.jpg

I grabbed the M228x manuals from Bitsavers to look up how the spindle and 
positioner locks work. I had been planning to de-rack it all so my dad and I 
could load it into my pickup truck in bite-sized pieces, but I think I would be 
better off renting a box truck with a lift gate.

What are the chances that it's the same PDP-11/34A that Warner did backups on? 
:D

Would the brown panel between the tape drive and computer be a filler panel, or 
part of the 11/34A? I don't know anything about the system configuration yet 
other than what can be seen in that picture.


Is this the system that was on Reddit?

--
John H. Reinhardt
  PRRT  #8909
  C HS  #11530
  N-Trak   #7566



Re: 9-Track Magtape Drive ID

2019-06-01 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
Cool. So that means that this 11/34A has more backplane slots than the base 
model? The programmer panel is also appealing. I presume that the Kennedy 9000 
doesn’t have a Pertec interface, then?

It remains to be seen whether I ever start my 11/44 restoration vs. moving it 
along to another collector and using some of the boards I accumulated for it in 
the 11/34A. I’m on the fence about that. 

--
Mark J. Blair 
http://www.nf6x.net




Re: 9-Track Magtape Drive ID

2019-06-01 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk



On 6/1/19 11:23 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote:

> Would the brown panel between the tape drive and computer be a filler panel, 
> or part of the 11/34A?

it is the top half of the 10.5" CPU chassis

the tape controller is probably internal to the cpu and with have three ribbon 
cables going from the
drive to the controller (read,write and control)

there should be a 26 and 60 pin ribbon cable going to the smd drive from the SI 
and a unibus cable from the
SI to the CPU




Re: 9-Track Magtape Drive ID

2019-06-01 Thread Robert via cctalk
Looks like a Kennedy 9000 series, with the sliding panel and all.

On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 12:53 PM Mark J. Blair via cctalk
 wrote:
>
> Does anybody here recognize the make and model of this tape drive?
>
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7_mfdfUIAMcTly.jpg
>
> --
> Mark J. Blair, NF6X 
> http://www.nf6x.net/
>


Re: 9-Track Magtape Drive ID

2019-06-01 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
Thanks!

I am taking the whole system. It's in a rack with a PDP-11/34A, a System 
Industries 9400 controller, and what looks to me like a Fujitsu M228x series 
hard drive:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D77fRMFU0AEQtSO.jpg

I grabbed the M228x manuals from Bitsavers to look up how the spindle and 
positioner locks work. I had been planning to de-rack it all so my dad and I 
could load it into my pickup truck in bite-sized pieces, but I think I would be 
better off renting a box truck with a lift gate.

What are the chances that it's the same PDP-11/34A that Warner did backups on? 
:D

Would the brown panel between the tape drive and computer be a filler panel, or 
part of the 11/34A? I don't know anything about the system configuration yet 
other than what can be seen in that picture.

-- 
Mark J. Blair 
http://www.nf6x.net/



Re: 9-Track Magtape Drive ID

2019-06-01 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
45ips tension arm 800/1600 looking at the 'density' slide switch

make shure you get the cables and controller board if you don't take the whole 
system


On 6/1/19 10:56 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> kennedy 9000
> 
> On 6/1/19 10:53 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote:
>> Does anybody here recognize the make and model of this tape drive?
>>
>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7_mfdfUIAMcTly.jpg
>>
> 



Re: 9-Track Magtape Drive ID

2019-06-01 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
I don't know for sure,  but it looks a heck of a lot like the drive I
loaded for backups on a 11/34a that the company I worked summers for had.
1983 or 1984 was the time frame.

Warner

On Sat, Jun 1, 2019, 11:53 AM Mark J. Blair via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

> Does anybody here recognize the make and model of this tape drive?
>
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7_mfdfUIAMcTly.jpg
>
> --
> Mark J. Blair, NF6X 
> http://www.nf6x.net/
>
>


Re: 9-Track Magtape Drive ID

2019-06-01 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
kennedy 9000

On 6/1/19 10:53 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote:
> Does anybody here recognize the make and model of this tape drive?
> 
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7_mfdfUIAMcTly.jpg
>