Re: [CentOS] Mementos

[Dave Stevens via CentOS]

On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 19:44:52 -0500
Chris Adams  wrote:

>   I wonder if it would install in a modern VM?

me too but not interested enough to do it. Thank you for taking on this
important work!

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Re: [CentOS] Mementos

[Dave Stevens via CentOS]

On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 20:06:40 -0400
mark  wrote:

> I said RH 5.2

hmm. I have a 4.2, any rarity value to these?

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Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

[Dave Stevens]

On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 10:56:11 -0600
Valeri Galtsev  wrote:

> PS Not everything that paces fast with new "releases" and which
> releases security patches even more often (yes, I look at you,
> Mozilla firefox and thunderbird) is "pretty much dead". 

and claws for me or roundcube works fine.

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Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

[Dave Stevens]

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 21:05:42 +0100
Rainer Duffner  wrote:

> It’s also not often the case that you can split this kind of work
> into a thousand work-packages and have everybody just work 1/2 hour a
> day on it.

not like Debian for instance

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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Where to buy S/MIME ??

[Dave Stevens]

On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 00:54:12 +0100
Rainer Duffner  wrote:

> It’s of course a free country

haven't heard that for quite a while...

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Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

[Dave Stevens]

On Sat, 21 Jul 2018 20:41:40 -0700
Keith Keller  wrote:

> On 2018-07-22, Valeri Galtsev  wrote:
> >
> > And on top of all: MS Windows is the only systems I know of whose
> > vendor tells you, it is not safe to run without 3rd party software
> > (antivirus).  
> 
> AFAIK (my son runs Windows, to my shame) Windows now comes bundled
> with antivirus software.  I have no idea if it actually works or not.

Yes, isn't it blatant? MS makes defective systems that attract
malicious software (viruses) then claims its anti-virus SW is an extra
added attraction. No doubt they monetize it somehow.Too baroque for me.

The apt cache description of xbill (qv) is just right: 

"Ever get the feeling that nothing is going right?  You're a sysadmin,
and someone's trying to destroy your computers.  The little people
running around the screen are trying to infect your computers with
Wingdows [TM], a virus cleverly designed to resemble a popular
operating system.  Your objective is to click the mouse on them, ending
their potential threat. If one of the people reaches a computer, it
will attempt to replace your operating system with the virus it
carries. It will then attempt to run off the screen with your vital
software."

Dave

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Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

[Dave Stevens]

On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 09:57:22 -0500
Valeri Galtsev  wrote:

> 
> As far as google anything goes, not everybody volunteers one's 
> information into paws of google (and quite likely one or more of 3 
> letter agencies collecting information that way). I know (call it 
> educated guess) that about 70% of messages I send are ending up in 
> google databases whether I want it or not. Someone said quite some
> time ago: you don't need to recruit spies anymore, just roll out
> "free" services, and information will trickle to you. I am old enough
> to know what collection of information on everybody leads to (Hitler
> Germany, Stalin Russia, ...), but I also know that the worst lesson
> of history is: people do not learn lessons of history. So, I do the
> best I can do: roll out services people I work for may need, and
> avoid by any means advertising google whatever myself, I just keep
> neutral when that surfaces in discussions with my people.
> 

it's what Bertolt Brecht said, "Not everyone who shows you their teeth
is smiling."
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Re: [CentOS] Replacement web server time - catalog CPAN and PEAR installs

[Dave Stevens]

On Thu, 28 Jun 2018 20:16:27 +
"Philipoff, Andrew"  wrote:

> Try running "pear list -a > pear_list.txt" to get a list of install
> PEAR modules.
> 
> Andrew

thanks Andrew, very handy!

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Re: [CentOS] Server disposal

[Dave Stevens]

On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 13:49:12 -0700
Kenneth Porter  wrote:

> Can anyone recommend a mailing list or other resource for finding a
> home for old server hardware? I've got a growing bone pile of retired
> Dell and Supermicro rack servers. I've stripped the drives and memory
> but hate to see the other old parts go to waste, like old RAID
> controllers and other proprietary parts.

do you have a parts list?

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Re: [CentOS] Passwords in plain text

[Dave Stevens]

On Fri, 15 Jun 2018 17:44:47 -0500
Johnny Hughes  wrote:

> WRT mailing the password in clear text .. how else would it mail it?
> 
> Mailman does not store any kind of encryption keys for email, and
> frankly, most people don't know how to use encrypted email.  This list
> probably has a (much) higher percentage of people who would know how
> to use encrypted mail (ie, Linux users .. who are more computer
> literate than the average person).  But, I don't think mailman has
> sending administrative mails to users encrypted as an option.
> 
> WRT this issue .. several hundred gmail accounts (and few other
> accounts) were disabled at a specific time today.  We don't yet know
> exactly why this happened and before we mass reenable the accounts, we
> need to make sure it is not going to happen again.
> 
> Since so many of the mails are gmail.com  accounts, this has to be
> something that gmail did today at 1530 GMT (when all the accounts were
> disabled) and the mails were sent).
> 
> We will try to figure out exactly what happened and get everything
> back to normal as soon as we can.

see here:
https://investorplace.com/2016/09/gmail-down-outage-googl-goog-stock/

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> Thanks,
> Johnny Hughes
> 
> On 06/15/2018 02:32 PM, rebecca coleman wrote:
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Re: [CentOS] OT - lowest power, cheapest python interpreter

[Dave Stevens]

On Fri, 9 Jun 2017 15:44:47 -0400
Fred Smith  wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 09:00:42PM +0200, Andrew Holway wrote:
> > I am searching for the cheapeat *nix SOC device with ethernet and
> > wifi that can run Python 2.7. Ethernet should be 100mbit and
> > hopefully supporting PXE.
> > 
> > OT because im doubting you can squeeze our bloaty friend onto such a
> > device :)  
> 
> Raspberry Pi 3B  35 bucks notincluding power supply or SD card.
> 
> the only thing I'm not sure of is the PXE part.
> 
> 

see here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/48af52/raspberry_pi_3_usb_and_pxe_network_boot_boot/

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Re: [CentOS] humor (was Re: OT: systemd Poll)

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On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 15:59:41 -0500 (CDT)
"Valeri Galtsev"  wrote:

> On Wed, April 12, 2017 2:39 pm, Mauricio Tavares wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Holway
> >  wrote:  
> >>>
> >>> When Windows 2000 came out some called it "bloated pig". Some 6
> >>> years down
> >>> the road Linux started catching up ;-) Then we stopped laughing
> >>> about Windows.
> >>>  
> >>
> >> All in the name of progress..  
> >
> >   I have been told that Windows developers were taught not to
> > optimize their code for memory/cpu/etc since those could be solved
> > by throwing more hardware at it. Instead they should make clean
> > readable code. Not claiming that is exclusive to Windows or the
> > clean readable part is followed...
> >  
> 
> Continuing in the same spirit. Way back SELinux (before it made it
> into main stream kernel) had a competitor. LIDS. De-ciphers as Linux
> Intrusion Detection System (but name is confusing). Creature of
> Purdue University Computer science department. Basically LISD was a
> kernel patch that upon end of boot sequence demotes root account to
> privileges of user nobody. This makes system impregnable on the fly
> (but real pain to administer - any change can only be done as: shut
> down, change, boot). I was so impressed, I still remember about it.
> Never came to using it though. If it did, it might give big pain to
> NSA and friends. But SELinux won, and LIDS never made it into main
> stream kernel - to my regret. As far as SELinux is concerned, several
> people still think that several (how many?) thousands of extra code
> in the kernel may bring more harm than do good. Anyway, the last IMHO
> is where "tastes differ".
> 
> Valeri

the wikipedia confirms my memory that SELinux is a child of the NSA.
Is anyone astonished that this allowed them to hack into Linux?

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Re: [CentOS] question about directory size in linux..

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On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 07:27:05 +1100
Anthony K  wrote:

> On 23/02/17 06:04, John R Pierce wrote:
> > on many modern file systems, larger directories are stored as some 
> > sort of B-Tree or hash tree, so there's quite a lot of indexing
> > data in there along with the actual directory entries   
> So I gather this depends on the file system.
> 
> On my ext4 file system, I have a directory that has >2TB and the 
> directory entry itself only shows:
> 
> $ ls -ld Stuff
> drwxrwxr-x 146 akk akk   36864 Feb 21 21:18 Stuff/
> 
> $ du -bs Stuff
> 2093651427987Stuff
> 
> Not sure what to take away from that!

certainly sounds like (-) bs

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Re: [CentOS] Noise Cancellation of Server Noise

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Quoting Digimer :


On 24/12/16 04:43 PM, H wrote:
Has anyone come across a device that could cancel out the noise  
from servers, ie. the fan noise? I have  a server rack near my  
office and would like to see if i can decrease the noise level. It  
would seem to me that the steady drone of the fans could be  
cancelled out to a large extent.


There are rack chassis designed to reduce noise. An example are the APC
NetShelter CS line.

http://www.apc.com/shop/ca/en/categories/racks-and-accessories/racks-and-enclosures/netshelter-cx/_/N-1ks6cn2

I don't know of any other way to make servers quieter, though.


noise cancelling headphones?


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Re: [CentOS] Alternative to cPanel

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On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 22:16:15 +0100
Dario Lesca  wrote:

> Il giorno gio, 15/12/2016 alle 15.17 +, FrancisM ha scritto:
> > Im looking for alternative for cPanel and somehow  
> 
> ISPconfig is open source and work well.
> 
> http://www.ispconfig.org/documentation/
> 

as is virtualmin - virtualmin.com

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Re: [CentOS] Alternative to cPanel

[Dave Stevens]

On Thu, 15 Dec 2016 18:23:31 +0100
Andrew Holway  wrote:

> I think most of the market is moving towards AWS Elastic Beanstalk,
> OpenShift and Docker. It seems control panels are not really much of a
> thing anymore.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Andrew

the people at virtualmin.com don't agree. Neither do I, I use it a lot
and like it.

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> 
> On 15 December 2016 at 16:17, FrancisM 
> wrote:
> 
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Im looking for alternative for cPanel and somehow I read that the
> > 'cwp control web panel' (http://centos-webpanel.com) and Sentora (
> > http://www.sentora.ga) is the good alternative for cPanel.
> >
> > Is there someone using this application and what can you tell about
> > or recommend.
> >
> > Thank you all.
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Re: [CentOS] script to make webpage snapshot

[Dave Stevens]

Quoting Valeri Galtsev :



On Thu, August 11, 2016 5:02 pm, John R Pierce wrote:

On 8/11/2016 1:46 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:

Could someone recommend a script or utility one can run from command
line
on Linux or UNIX machine to make a snapshot of webpage?

We have a signage (xibo) and whoever creates/changes content, likes to
add
URLs of some webpages there. All works well if these are webpages on our
servers (which are pretty fast), but some external servers often take
time
to respond and take time to assemble the page, in addition these servers
sometimes get really busy, and when response is longer than time devoted
for that content in signage window, this window hangs forever with blank
white field until you restart client. Trivial workaround: just to get
snapshot (as, say daily cron job), and point signage client to that
snapshot definitely will solve it, and simultaneously we will stop
bugging
other people servers often without much need for it.

But when I tried to search for some utility or script that makes webpage
snapshot, I discovered that my ability to search degraded somehow...


many/most webpages these days are heavily dynamic content, a static
snapshot would likely break.  plus any site-relative links on that
snapshot would be pointing to your server, not the original, any ajax
code on that webpage would try to interact with your server which won't
be running the right back end stuff, etcetc.


I usually am not good at explaining what I need. I really only need an
image of what one would see in web browser if one point to that URL. I do
not care it to be interactive. I also don't want to get the content
("mirror") of stuff that URL points to on variety of "depths" - I don't
want to use wget or curl for this reason. That is what I tried first and
it breaks with at lest one of the web sites - they do seem protect
themselves from "robots" or similar. And we don't need it. We just need to
show what they page shows today, that's all.

Valeri


why not File -> Print -> .pdf?

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Re: [CentOS] Firefox 39

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On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 20:40:25 -0400
TE Dukes tdu...@palmettoshopper.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Trying to access webmin but I get the error:
 ssl_error_weak_server_cert_key.
 
 I tried uninstalling Firefox and re-installing 38.x but still get the
 error.
 
 I tried installing Chrome but the dependencies are an endless loop.
 
 I found instructions on how to fix the error but I can't access
 webmin to do it.
 
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.

what you've got to do is make FF accept the certificate. I had to do
this and found a setting in FF that allowed it to happen. You've got a
browser that is so secure it won't do what you want. Mind you, the
certificate system is there for a good reason. Only defeat it if you
know what you're doing.

No, I don't remember which setting I changed but Google is your friend.

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[CentOS] can't mount an LVM volume inCentos 5.10

[Dave Stevens]

I have a degraded raid array (originally raid-10, now only two drives)  
that contains an LVM volume. I can see in the appended text that the  
Xen domains are there but I don't see how to mount them. No doubt this  
is just ignorance on my part but I wonder if anyone would care to  
direct me? I want to be able to retrieve dom-0 and one of the dom-Us  
to do data recovery, the others are of no interest.


Suggestions? Will rtfm if directed.

Dave

excerpt from failed mount attempts

--- starting here 

root@Microknoppix:/home/knoppix# vgchange -ay bulkley
  Volume group bulkley not found
root@Microknoppix:/home/knoppix# vgchange -ay /dev/VolGroup00/bulkley
  Invalid volume group name: VolGroup00/bulkley
  Run `vgchange --help' for more information.
root@Microknoppix:/home/knoppix# vgimport -f VolGroup00
  Volume group VolGroup00 is not exported
root@Microknoppix:/home/knoppix# vgchange -ay VolGroup00
  8 logical volume(s) in volume group VolGroup00 now active
root@Microknoppix:/home/knoppix# lvscan
  ACTIVE'/dev/VolGroup00/Dom0' [40.00 GiB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/VolGroup00/babine' [100.00 GiB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/VolGroup00/centos-template' [100.00 GiB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/VolGroup00/bulkley-old' [100.00 GiB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/VolGroup00/ubuntu' [10.00 GiB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/VolGroup00/morice' [200.00 GiB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/VolGroup00/oldserver' [80.00 GiB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/VolGroup00/bulkley' [100.00 GiB] inherit
root@Microknoppix:/home/knoppix# mount /dev/mapper/VolGroup00 aa
mount: special device /dev/mapper/VolGroup00 does not exist
root@Microknoppix:/home/knoppix# mount /dev/mapper/bulkley aa
mount: special device /dev/mapper/bulkley does not exist
root@Microknoppix:/home/knoppix# mount /dev/mapper/dev/VolGroup00 aa
mount: special device /dev/mapper/dev/VolGroup00 does not exist
root@Microknoppix:/home/knoppix# mount /dev/mapper/dev/VolGroup00/bulkley aa
mount: special device /dev/mapper/dev/VolGroup00/bulkley does not exist
root@Microknoppix:/home/knoppix# mount /dev/mapper/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 aa
mount: special device /dev/mapper/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00 does not exist
root@Microknoppix:/home/knoppix# mount  
/dev/mapper/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00/bulkley aa
mount: special device /dev/mapper/dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00/bulkley does  
not exist

root@Microknoppix:/home/knoppix# mount /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00/bulkley aa
mount: special device /dev/VolGroup00/LogVol00/bulkley does not exist

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[CentOS] sw raid issue with C5.10-xen

[Dave Stevens]

My raid array won't boot, gives a kernel panic - attempt to kill init  
message and goes into endless reboots.


MB is a supermicro 2P with opteron 2376 4-core cpus, centos sw raid,  
installed C5.3, updated as possible, currently c5.10. 5 seagate 750GB  
drives as raid-10 and hot spare. we set this up about 5 years ago and  
IIRC we set aside the first 10GB on drive 0 as a boot partition.


Grub runs and the system tries to boot 2.6.18-308.20.1.el5xen, sees a  
dirty raid array and


md: md0: raid array is not clean - starting background reconstruction

which looks hopeful but then

md10: not enough operational mirrors for raid 10

and then the panic and reboot.

ideas? stuff to read? diagnostics?

TIA,

Dave



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Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

[Dave Stevens]

Quoting Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net:



On Thu, 2015-01-08 at 09:35 -0700, Warren Young wrote:


Once a thing becomes reliable, it stops being technology.


Oh No. Just because something works well it does not stop being
technology unless the USA people, who have decimated my language
(English), have a new definition for technology.


ah, yes. Two great nations, divided by a common language...

Dave



Warren are you serious that things that do not work well are
technology but things that do work well are *not* technology ?


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Re: [CentOS] WARNING: No module xenblk found for kernel

[Dave Stevens]

Quoting Ulf Volmer u.vol...@u-v.de:


On 12/18/2014 08:11 PM, Dave Stevens wrote:

ran routine updates on the lernel this morning and got this:

WARNING: No module xenblk found for kernel 2.6.18-400.1.1.el5,
continuing anyway


i'm not sure that i can help you, i have currently no centos5 vm on xen.

But i guess the warning is from the normal, not xen enabled kernel.

Does /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-400.1.1.el5xen exists?


yes, exists and first option in grub.conf

is the error likely to affect my storage on reboot?

Dave



And is kernel-xen installed and the default kernel in the grub- config?

regards
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Re: [CentOS] WARNING: No module xenblk found for kernel

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Quoting Ulf Volmer u.vol...@u-v.de:


On 12/23/2014 11:11 PM, Dave Stevens wrote:

Quoting Ulf Volmer u.vol...@u-v.de:


On 12/18/2014 08:11 PM, Dave Stevens wrote:

ran routine updates on the lernel this morning and got this:

WARNING: No module xenblk found for kernel 2.6.18-400.1.1.el5,
continuing anyway


i'm not sure that i can help you, i have currently no centos5 vm on xen.

But i guess the warning is from the normal, not xen enabled kernel.

Does /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-400.1.1.el5xen exists?


yes, exists and first option in grub.conf

is the error likely to affect my storage on reboot?


If you boot the xen- kernel, you storage is not affected.



yes, that worked fine, thanks!

Dave



And after the reboot you can remove the standart kernel.

regards
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[CentOS] WARNING: No module xenblk found for kernel

[Dave Stevens]

ran routine updates on the lernel this morning and got this:

WARNING: No module xenblk found for kernel 2.6.18-400.1.1.el5,  
continuing anyway



The only references I can find are a year or so old. Anyone able to  
comment? or refer me? Have not rebooted.


uname -a
Linux bulkley.bvserver.ca 2.6.18-400.el5xen #1 SMP Thu Dec 4 13:29:23  
EST 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux


Thanks,

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Re: [CentOS] centos7 raid

[Dave Stevens]

Quoting dustin kempter dust...@consistentstate.com:
hi all, is there any documentation out there about setting up a raid  
array in centos7?


thanks


I found the docs obscure, but this:

http://binblog.info/2014/10/25/centos-7-on-md-raid-1/

may help. It is actually a simpler and better thought out method but  
badly documented.


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Re: [CentOS] Need to Understand booting process of CENTOS-7

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Quoting keshab mahapatra ping2...@gmail.com:


Thanks to all.


At this address:

https://www.edx.org/course/linuxfoundationx/linuxfoundationx-lfs101x-introduction-1621#.VC77Ya02l-g

Is the start of edX's Intro to Linux course. I found the section on  
the Linux boot process clear and up to date.


Dave



On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Timothy Murphy gayle...@alice.it wrote:


m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

 It's very simple actually. The first step in the booting process of
 CENTOS-7 is the application of emf to the system, following which it
 would initiate the cmos process to load the GPT from disk and hand
 over to LILO which will bootstrap the kernel from the file allocation
 table into the high memory area before running systemd to complete the
 booting process.

 I didn't think LILO had been used for years ...?

 Geez! I bet he didn't think that he'd have to add sarcasm/sarcasm
 around that I've lost track of who posted that, but *I* thought it
was
 funny

Why send a smartass reply to a simple query?

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[CentOS] C7 - implementation guide URL?

[Dave Stevens]

I went to the RH site and used wget to download an offline copy for  
some work I'm doing. When I went back I had a gig of text and no end  
in sight. This was due to multiple (a lot) languages. I tried  
downloading the English version only but it seems there are links  
somehow that lead every time to other languages.


Does anyone have a URL for a downloadable implementation guide for  
English only?


TIA

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 7 RAID tutorial?

[Dave Stevens]

Quoting Digimer li...@alteeve.ca:


On 10/09/14 06:45 PM, Dave Stevens wrote:

Quoting Digimer li...@alteeve.ca:


On 10/09/14 05:35 PM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote:

On 09/10/2014 02:33 AM, Digimer wrote:

The problem with ZFS on linux is license related more than technical.

It exists for ubutnu so I can use it from a ppa for testing.
I would like to understand more about this license issue.
If you can sound me with more about it will help me understand the
issue.

Thanks,
Eliezer


http://zfsonlinux.org/faq.html#WhatAboutTheLicensingIssue

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#Linux

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Dear All,

This list reminds me of the wizards in the Terry Pratchett novels -
confronted with a need to take action they would by far rather discuss
all possibilities, however remote, than address the need in a simple
way, after all  they're WIZARDS.

The discussion has been pretty interesting, I've figured out what I
wanted to know through other means.

Thanks for the perspectives.

Dave


Hi Dave,

  I can understand your feeling, but I need to say that storage,  
as a topic, is a very big one. People form entire careers around the  
topic. So when discussing storage without a specific context,  
conversations like this are inevitable.


  All the points that have been made in this thread are valid and  
important. So I suppose the better thing would be, if you were still  
looking for answers, would be to ask the question with a particular  
use-case in mind. That would allow people to stay more focused in  
their answers.


Cheers!

digimer


Quoting Digimer li...@alteeve.ca:


On 10/09/14 06:45 PM, Dave Stevens wrote:

Quoting Digimer li...@alteeve.ca:


On 10/09/14 05:35 PM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote:

On 09/10/2014 02:33 AM, Digimer wrote:

The problem with ZFS on linux is license related more than technical.

It exists for ubutnu so I can use it from a ppa for testing.
I would like to understand more about this license issue.
If you can sound me with more about it will help me understand the
issue.

Thanks,
Eliezer


http://zfsonlinux.org/faq.html#WhatAboutTheLicensingIssue

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#Linux

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Dear All,

This list reminds me of the wizards in the Terry Pratchett novels -
confronted with a need to take action they would by far rather discuss
all possibilities, however remote, than address the need in a simple
way, after all  they're WIZARDS.

The discussion has been pretty interesting, I've figured out what I
wanted to know through other means.

Thanks for the perspectives.

Dave


Hi Dave,

  I can understand your feeling, but I need to say that storage,  
as a topic, is a very big one. People form entire careers around the  
topic. So when discussing storage without a specific context,  
conversations like this are inevitable.


  All the points that have been made in this thread are valid and  
important. So I suppose the better thing would be, if you were still  
looking for answers, would be to ask the question with a particular  
use-case in mind. That would allow people to stay more focused in  
their answers.


Cheers!

digimer




Ok, maybe one more. I manage a server with CentOS 5.10 that has a raid  
10 array with a hot spare. It was well set up by someone else and has  
worked very well. It also has a Xen kernel and several VMs, also all  
working well.


The age of the OS and accumulated cruft in the application side,  
together with the absence of the person who did the original setup,  
have me thinking about a new clean install - first on a transitional  
box for continuity, then a new config on the current hardware with the  
same basic design but more up-to-date; we are now a long way from  
version 5.3.


I had seen reference to a much improved raid installation procedure in  
version 7. I can now confirm that the process is indeed much simpler  
and so I have been able to get on with performance testing in various  
scenarios, which was what I wanted to do. My experience has been that  
of you want a tutorial on any topic the internet is flooded with the.  
But I didn't see one for this topic, so I thought a routine query on  
this list would get me a starting point.


That didn't exactly happen. But there's lots of food for thought in  
the answers I got and I'll be able to take at least some of that  
forward. And if I'm motivated enough may I'LL make the tutorial!


Dave


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Re: [CentOS] Centos 7 RAID tutorial?

[Dave Stevens]

Quoting Digimer li...@alteeve.ca:


On 10/09/14 05:35 PM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote:

On 09/10/2014 02:33 AM, Digimer wrote:

The problem with ZFS on linux is license related more than technical.

It exists for ubutnu so I can use it from a ppa for testing.
I would like to understand more about this license issue.
If you can sound me with more about it will help me understand the issue.

Thanks,
Eliezer


http://zfsonlinux.org/faq.html#WhatAboutTheLicensingIssue

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#Linux

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Dear All,

This list reminds me of the wizards in the Terry Pratchett novels -  
confronted with a need to take action they would by far rather discuss  
all possibilities, however remote, than address the need in a simple  
way, after all  they're WIZARDS.


The discussion has been pretty interesting, I've figured out what I  
wanted to know through other means.


Thanks for the perspectives.

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 7 RAID tutorial?

[Dave Stevens]

Quoting Digimer li...@alteeve.ca:


On 07/09/14 11:01 PM, Keith Keller wrote:

On 2014-09-08, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote:


Even more: system failure or power loss is more likely to destroy all data
on software RAID than on a single drive when there is a lot of IO present
(to the best of my understanding, loss of cache software RAID is using is
more catastrophic compared to journaled filesystem under same
circumstances - somebody may correct me). So, there may be worth thinking
about hardware RAID.


I think an essential feature of any md RAID that's not a RAID1 is a UPS
and a mechanism for a clean shutdown in case of extended power failure.
(An md RAID1 might be okay in this instance, but I wouldn't want to risk
it.)  But this is true for any RAID, which is why many controllers come
with a BBU (and if you don't have a BBU on your hardware RAID controller,
then you absolutely need the UPS setup I described).

OTOH, the OP wasn't clear on what he was doing; perhaps he is just
playing around, and doesn't care about data preservation at this time.
If you're just testing performance then data integrity in the face of a
power failure is less of a concern.

--keith


A UPS is certainly better than nothing, but I would not consider it  
safe enough. A BBU/FBU will protect you if the node loses power,  
right up to the failure of the PSU(s). I've seen shorted cable  
harnesses taking out servers with redundant power supplies, popped  
breakers in PDUs/UPSes, knocked out power cords, etc. So a UPS is  
not a silver-bullet to safe write-back caching in software arrays.  
Good, yes, but not perfect.


This is a pretty interesting discussion but has not revealed an  
on-line tutorial. Anyone?


Dave



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[CentOS] Centos 7 RAID tutorial?

[Dave Stevens]

I want to set up a new CentOS install using version 7 and would like  
to experiment with various RAID levels. Anyone care to point out a  
tutorial?


TIA

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Re: [CentOS] Sorry

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Quoting Alexander Dalloz ad+li...@uni-x.org:

 Am 17.05.2014 23:22, schrieb Always Learning:

 Top posting ALWAYS makes sense when the poster has included nearly 200
 lines of redundant and time-wasting waffle from previous posters.

 False argument.


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Re: [CentOS] Death of dyndns

[Dave Stevens]

Quoting Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net:

 I'm running two servers, one with a fixed IP address
 and the other with a dynamic address.

 This is probably a very ignorant question,
 but what does dyndns do that I could not do myself?

In principle, nothing. But you aren't their use case. At wikipedia's  
page on dyn is, Dyn was conceived as an open source, community-led  
student project back by Jeremy Hitchcock, Tom Daly, Tim Wilde and  
Chris Reinhardt while pursuing undergraduate studies at Worcester  
Polytechnic Institute.[2] In the beginning, Dyn enabled students to  
access lab computers and print documents remotely. The project quickly  
outgrew its original purpose and soon gravitated towards domain name  
system (DNS) services. The first iteration was a free dynamic DNS  
service known as DynDNS, which allowed users to register a subdomain  
that points to a computer with regularly changing IP addresses, such  
as those served by many consumer-level Internet service providers. An  
update client installed on the user's computer, or built into a  
networked device, such as a router or webcam, keeps the hostname up to  
date with its current IP address.

This free service eventually became costly for the founders to  
support. Looking to gauge interest, the project was set to be shut  
down unless users were able to reach a $25,000 fundraising goal. They  
ended up raising over $40,000. There's more.

So with sufficient free time and education and resources anyone could  
do what dyn did. They commodified it and made it easy for  
non-specialists, that's all.

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[CentOS] new Centos 6.5 32 bit yum issue

[Dave Stevens]

When I fire up the virtualbox VM Centos starts as I would expect, but  
when I try to use yum list updates (or any of several other yum  
command I've tried) I get a repo error - 
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
Could not retrieve mirrorlist  
http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=6arch=i386repo=os error was
14: PYCURL ERROR 6 - Couldn't resolve host 'mirrorlist.centos.org'
Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: base

I looked in the repo.d and the base CentOS-Base.repo suggests that if  
the mirrorlist= does not work I should try the commented out baseurl=  
instead. But I don't seem to have nano and can't install it - yum  
install fails as above.

Ideas?

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Re: [CentOS] new Centos 6.5 32 bit yum issue

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Quoting Earl A Ramirez earlarami...@gmail.com:

 On 19 February 2014 03:01, Dave Stevens g...@uniserve.com wrote:

 When I fire up the virtualbox VM Centos starts as I would expect, but
 when I try to use yum list updates (or any of several other yum
 command I've tried) I get a repo error - 
 Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
 Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 Could not retrieve mirrorlist
 http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=6arch=i386repo=os error was
 14: PYCURL ERROR 6 - Couldn't resolve host 'mirrorlist.centos.org'
 Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: base

 I looked in the repo.d and the base CentOS-Base.repo suggests that if
 the mirrorlist= does not work I should try the commented out baseurl=
 instead. But I don't seem to have nano and can't install it - yum
 install fails as above.

 Ideas?

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 Does the VirtualBox VM have access to the internet, are there any proxy
 setting on the host?

seems so - I have a terminal and can ping out and ftp, the host  
computer is a home ubuntu box on a wifi network, I'm typing right now  
on another computer on the same network, I'm not aware of any  
connectivity issues, I haven't set up any proxy.

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Re: [CentOS] I Know It's A Stupid Question......

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Quoting Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. eoconno...@gmail.com:

 But I'm trying to give my son a cool-yet-kind-of-geeky 13th
 Birthday Present..he hinted he liked the CentOS logo, but where
 would I find things that are branded with it?searching the web
 doesn't really help me much, only because I'm not sure what I need to be
 looking for...any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!!


why not take the logo to a t-shirt shop and give him a custom shirt?

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Re: [CentOS] Update on spam, postfix, fail2ban, centos 6

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Quoting Bob Hoffman b...@bobhoffman.com:

 I have been using centos 6 in a virtualized system for a few months now.
 Took a while to batten down the hatches with postfix, rbls, and to use
 fail2ban correctly.

Thanks for this,Bob. I'm having trouble making fail2ban work in my  
Centos 5.8 box. Would you be willing to share your fail2ban setup?  
Jails.conf would be most welcome.

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houses, refreshing themselves with more non-alcoholic thirst-quenchers,
cooking more new, appetizing dishes, affording themselves that little extra
touch which means so much? Or would the whole desperate whirligig slow
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[CentOS] anyone care to helop with a fail2ban problem on Centos 5.8?

[Dave Stevens]

I've got an up-to-date Centos 5.8 and can't seem to get fail2ban to  
get rid of troublesome sshd login attempts. /etc/fail2ban/jail.conf  
has these sections:

[ssh]

enabled = true
port= ssh
filter  = sshd
logpath  = /var/log/auth.log
maxretry = 6

# Generic filter for pam. Has to be used with action which bans all ports
# such as iptables-allports, shorewall
[pam-generic]

enabled = false
# pam-generic filter can be customized to monitor specific subset of 'tty's
filter  = pam-generic
# port actually must be irrelevant but lets leave it all for some  
possible uses
port = all
banaction = iptables-allports
port = anyport
logpath  = /var/log/auth.log
maxretry = 6

and an excerpt from a logwatch run just now is:

  - pam_unix Begin 

  sshd:
 Authentication Failures:
unknown (190.145.98.179): 2460 Time(s)
root (58.51.95.75): 285 Time(s)
unknown (122.70.128.5): 125 Time(s)
postgres (190.145.98.179): 64 Time(s)
mail (190.145.98.179): 40 Time(s)
mysql (190.145.98.179): 40 Time(s)
root (190.145.98.179): 36 Time(s)
unknown (58.51.95.75): 26 Time(s)
ftp (190.145.98.179): 17 Time(s)
root (122.70.128.5): 15 Time(s)
root (221.226.215.117): 13 Time(s)
root (cloud-128-117.diagcomputing.org): 13 Time(s)
adm (190.145.98.179): 12 Time(s)

so advice? redirection? rtfm?

Dave


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Re: [CentOS] This doesn't make sense

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Quoting Johnny Hughes mailing-li...@hughesjr.com:

 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 On 09/23/2011 12:29 PM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
 On 09/23/2011 06:57 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
 On 09/23/2011 09:06 AM, Stefan Held wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, den 22.09.2011, 07:28 -0500 schrieb Johnny Hughes:

 No matter what we try to do ... some kind of rolling updates for people
 who do not want to wait ... or whatever the next thing is ... well you
 do not seem to be happy.

 Your Customers are not unhappy because they don't like what you do.
 Your Customers are unhappy because they don't know what you do.

 The Release and QA Process seems recently to have become a mirracle.
 There is nothing discussed where your Problems are in getting things
 done.

 So if nobody knows where you are stuck. (Who are the persons anyway
 hidden in the secret labs?!) Nobody can step up and help out.

 Where is this discussion maintained anyway? The Currents process is
 untransparent. And for a COMMUNITY Enterperise Operating System
 this fact is not acceptable.

 We know that the big boys at RH changed the whole system, but the
 community accepted that you need time for 6.0 to adept to these changes.

 Since then we all thought the issues would have been solved. So what
 now? What exactly is holding of the release of 6.1 and where can we as a
 community step in and help?

 If you aren't happy, well then we would recommend something else that
 does make you happy.

 Or give us the possibility to help becoming happy again. But doing it
 like Dumbledore in secret regions of the Centos-Hogwards Terrertory is
 an bad option as it seems.

 Happy is important ... don't go through life unhappy because of an OS.

 You seem very unhappy at the moment ;)

 We just want you to be happy Les.

 see my above text.


 Are we going to start this again ... we are doing the best we can and we
 are building things as we go along to take care of issue when we  
 hit a snag.

 There is a whole channel of RPMs that we are not allowed to look at from
 upstream now.  They do not release them on any ISOs and we can't pull
 things directly off RHN (the only way to get the optional channel) and
 use it.  This is just one of many issues we are having right now.

 If you can do it better, then do it.

 If you can not do it better, great, neither can we ... if we could have
 been done by now, we would have been by now.

 You can, as always, pay Red Hat for RHEL if you have servers where
 CentOS does not meet your update requirements.

 What you are suggesting here is that people should expect centos systems to
 be insecure and go the RHEL if they want secure systems.
 Have you pondered the moral implications of your statement? Does that mean
 that the centos project is perfectly fine with knowingly distributing a
 system that insecure and a danger not only to its users but to  
 others as well?


 Absolutely ... BINGO ... NOW YOU GET IT.

 If you want point releases on the day they are released by Red Hat,
 then you need RHEL ... CUT AND DRY.

 We will release things as fast as we can.  If it is not fast enough for
 you personally, then yes, you need something else.

or someone else



 If as you also seem to suggest the project is so severly understaffed have
 the people in charge considered shutting down the project? This might be
 the more responsible option compared to having a lot of unsecured systems
 out there for long periods of time.

or accepting money to pay devs?


 Another issue are the priorities of the project. So apparently you are busy
 working on 6.0/cr and 6.x which is fine. But there is a major but in the
 current apache packages with a known and released fix upstream. Why can

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.6 Implications of PGP53 ?

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Quoting Always Learning cen...@u61.u22.net:


 If one stays with Centos 5.x (currently on 5.6) is the
 problem/enhancement/incompatibility involving PHP53 likely to be
 resolved by general updates and/or the introduction of Centos 5.7 ?

 Paul.



Me too. I have working Drupal installs that I want to move up a  
version (to 7.4) but need 5.3. I'm reluctant to do this until I have  
some experience in hand about whether it will go smoothly. Yum picks  
up the updates but so far I have refrained.

Anyone have experience on this?

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[CentOS] OT?

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I have a CentOS server with postfix running. A pop user's account was  
compromised and a lot of spam started being sent. My upstream ISP's  
mail program started refusing to talk to me because of the very high  
rate of mail, error 451. I disabled the compromised account. I then  
changed the postfix settings to deliver mail directly and flushed the  
mail queue. This resulted in spam being sent out.

There were about 20K mails in the queue. I don't know how I might have  
handled this better, I would have preferred to not send the spam, but  
the volume was large and the labour of sorting out spam from legit  
email was prohibitive.

Advice? A better list for this issue perhaps?

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Re: [CentOS] Recommended mailing list manager for CentOS 5.6

[Dave Stevens]

On Tuesday, July 19, 2011 05:07:16 PM John J. Boyer wrote:
 Does CentOS 5.6 have a mailing list manager like ecartis or majordomo? I
 want to set up mailing lists for my server in the cloud for three
 domains that I own. What mailing list managers do yourecommend, and
 where can they be found? I don't ming compiling source code.
 
 Thanks,

mailman has always worked well for me, easy to use, reasonable defaults, mail 
archived by default.

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Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6

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Quoting Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org:

 Hi,

 On 07/09/2011 05:23 PM, Edson - PMSS wrote:
 I really like CentOS, but it is undeniable the delay in the release of
 version 6.0.

 yes, we all clearly take that on board - I hope the changes we are
 bringing in helps clear that,

please say what those changes are

  and prevent this sort of a situation. But
 there are still lots of places for improvements, and over the next few
 months lets try and address all of those.

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Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6

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Quoting Steven Crothers steven.croth...@gmail.com:

 How is the site excellent if it changes nearly every other day, displays
 zero useful information on the development cycle, and discourages people to
 register and be a part of the community or development process (Now before
 anyone says its not a development cycle and its only repackaging you're
 full of crap. You're linkedin says you're developing, so that will no longer
 fly).

 It's the most closed source project for open source software I've ever seen.

probably no one here wants to take on your personal experiences, no  
matter how vivid they may be to you...


 It's a lack of responsibility, if you don't want to make a commitment, move
 over; don't keep playing it up like you're doing something positive.

 Thankfully some good things have come of this complete disaster that is
 CentOS 6.


Not a complete disaster. CentOS is a viable free/libre OS that serves  
nicely as an alternative to a paid version and is a handy incubator  
for Red Hat regardless of that not being a project goal. I have made  
some criticisms of the release and development model on this list but  
I also made a suggestion of how to address it and am willing to work  
toward resolving some problems I see. All points absent from your mail.

What in particular do you suggest?

Dave

 * Scientific Linux 6
 * Oracle Enterprise 6 (Which is free to download folks)
 * Clear-OS Core (Which is ran by a professional organization instead of a
 group if you're into that)

 On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Florin Andrei flo...@andrei.myip.orgwrote:

 On 07/08/2011 01:48 AM, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote:
 
  right, there is a website with status updates, and Jeff and others are
  doing a great job at keeping it up to date (thanks!).
  http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/qa/dashboard

 This site is excellent. Now, if I could only adjust the time zone
 displayed to match my own, so as to make more sense of the timestamps on
 the various posts in there, that would be perfect. :)

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Re: [CentOS] centos friends?

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On Friday, May 06, 2011 03:41:04 PM Karanbir Singh wrote:
 On 05/06/2011 07:05 PM, fred smith wrote:
  On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 04:54:39PM +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote:
  On 05/06/2011 04:49 PM, Kevin Thorpe wrote:
   http://centospubcrawl.eventbrite.com/ if you havent seen it
   already.
  
  Unfortunately, it's a bit of a swim from North America,... while I
  wasn't directly invited, I nevertheless won't be able to make it.
  I'd also dearly love a Centos shirt,... do similar events ever
  occur in or around Boston?
 
 Its a case of getting together a few people and organising it. There are
 a few open source events that take place in the Boston area - how about
 starting with identifying one open source friendly event, apply for a
 centos table / booth there - find a few people to man it, and we can try
 to get some stuff like T-Shirts etc over there.
 
 Stephen Cox is working on a generic format for something that people can
 take away and use as a template for organising and managing such a
 'presence'.  But he is based in South Africa, and they seem to not have
 a lot of such events there - how about you guys drop in onto the
 centos-promo list, and maybe we can all jump start something. The CentOS
 Promo team has been very active in Europe, but pretty much everywhere
 else its been a blank slate. Would be awesome to kickstart localised
 efforts around the world.
 
 - KB

and linuxcon would provide great visibility, August 17 - 19,  2011 · Hyatt 
Regency Vancouver · Vancouver, Canada

http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon

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[CentOS] centos friends?

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Hello All,

I want to ask about CentOS and money. Please do not start some kind of 
shitstorm over this, it isn't productive.

I have just been looking at archive.org to see when the paypal option went 
missing from the donate menu at centos.org. I can't pin it down, but it was 
there on October 16, 2010 and isn't now, so that's the information I have on 
that point.

There was a great deal of argy-bargy on this list when the 5.6 update was slow 
arriving. I don't want to go there, I was happy to see it when it arrived, as 
I always am when there's an update.

The impression I got was that the maintainers and packagers were working as 
hard as they could and were tetchy about being nagged, being unable to do 
more. Fair enough, but we need not adopt the status quo entirely.

The donate menu on the web site has this to say, (and more) ...

The CentOS team would like to remind you that the primary means of 
substaining the development of CentOS is via contributions by CentOS users.

CentOS is now, and will continue to be totally free; however, it takes money 
and resources to make CentOS available.

If you are able, please consider donating to the CentOS Project. Donations of 
promo material, public mirrors and dedicated servers are all vital to our 
contined operations.

Monetary

CentOS is currently reviewing our cash donation program. In the mean time we 
are not accepting any financial donations. We do appreciate though, if you 
want to - for example - help out with promo material. See our Wiki page on 
donations for more up to date information.

So referring as directed to the wiki page shows:

Resource and financial needs

The CentOS Project is entirely based on the efforts of volunteers. We rely on 
contributions and donations from CentOS users as well, for:

* Logistics related to promotion and infrastructure
* Specific hardware needs
* Bandwidth and connectivity
* Promotion material at conferences and exhibitions
* Organizing CentOS-related events 

I don't see anything there about money except in the first line and I'm really 
curious why. Internally it is clear that if the team hasn't put in place some 
cash donation basis probably the capacity isn't there. But the current team 
need not go into areas where they have no time or (perhaps) expertise. There 
are lots of capable money folks in the free software world who can and do 
accept donations and deal with administrative infrastructure and channel 
support to projects. So the name apache-friends is suggestive. Without 
necessarily using that model I wonder why there isn't a CentOS Friends group 
or fund to which I and others can donate. I can't help but believe that if 
there were, say, a couple of paid staff with CentOS as the day job, things 
would not be so burdensome to the devs we have now and maybe we could build on 
that.

For my part, I installed CentOS on some machines I administer for non-profit 
groups in Canada. The lack of licencing fees makes a big difference to them, 
non-profits groups are perpetuually long on brains and short on cash. But even 
so I think we could cough up, say, ten bucks a year per machine to put some 
payback into CentOS. Given general widespread goodwill this might be 
multiplied significantly.

I have not seen this discussed on the list and would be happy to know if there 
is some reason it hasn't been attempted.

Please let me repeat, this is meant as a constructive suggestion, there is no 
problem with the product, quite the reverse.

Comments?

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Re: [CentOS] centos friends?

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On Thursday, May 05, 2011 04:04:06 PM Karanbir Singh wrote:
 On 05/05/2011 10:51 PM, Phil Schaffner wrote:
  Scott Silva wrote on 05/05/2011 05:03 PM:
  Here is a bit of why the donation button went away (It was back in 2009
  or so)...
  
  Old news, that does not explain why monetary donations are still not
  being accepted.
 
 One of the tasks on the table for this summer is to setup a mechanism to
 accept financial donations / contributions from people. If you want to
 contribute towards specific people's efforts - I am sure most of the
 guys have amazon wish lists etc in place.
 
 - KB

Thank you. How can I find out who the guys are?

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Re: [CentOS] Setting up a GUI remote access

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Quoting Monty Shinn mon...@videopost.com:

 On 04/26/2011 11:25 AM, Todd Cary wrote:
 Currently I have VNC running on my Windows desktop with Samba
 providing access to my Linux server.  Since Linux is more
 reliable than Windows, I would like to be able to access my Linux
 (Centos 5.5) via my Windows notebook - hopefully via VNC or some
 similar application and then access the Windows desktop (if it is
 not locked up :-) ) with Samba.

 What is the best VNC like application to install or use on the
 Linux server?

It depends on what you do on the server, but for monitoring I use  
Virtualmin, both GPL and paid versions on different machines and find  
it very useful.

Dave


 Todd


 Todd,

 I have been using noamchine for a while now and has worked flawlessly.
 They have free versions of their server as well as clients for linux,
 macosx, and windows.

 http://www.nomachine.com/products.php

 Hope this helps.

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

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Quoting Michael Simpson mikie.simp...@gmail.com:

see my remarks below

 On 4 April 2011 23:11, David Brian Chait dch...@invenda.com wrote:
 I have to provide a reliable and scalable infrastructure, and that  
 requires a reliable provider / updates. While I do not need Centos  
 6 today, this development cycle has certainly raised questions as  
 to whether the development process can be relied upon. The whole  
 when it's ready mantra works well for academic/individual users,  
 but you can't plan business processes based on it.


 Yet you can.
 The only 5.6 update that has been rated as critical has been firefox.
 The previous critical update was exim which was for 5.5 which we had.
 I would place this firefox update at low priority as i would guess
 that close to 100% of the millions of installations will be running
 CentOS on servers rather than on workstations.
 Whilst i use CentOS for my desktops, and appreciate the complete
 stability that i have enjoyed since deploying 5.0 on these platforms i
 really care about my internet facing production servers and these are
 not impacted at all by waiting for 5.6 (or 6).

 I am looking forward to 6 coming out but just so that i can play with
 it and install it on some boxen that i have waiting in their packaging
 but i am in no rush. In the same way i would rather have 5.6 when it
 is done. Therefore the business process for remaining on 5 doesn't
 change especially with php53 and bind97 in testing so already
 available

 Based on previous experience, if there was a critical update for a
 core server service (or if there was an issue which was going to be
 critical to systems within a certain time zone c) then it would be
 pushed sooner.

 If your business process demands some feature of 6 (kvm / tpm / power
 savings / storage drivers) then you have enough money to buy some
 licences for rhel 6 to enable your testing and the beauty of CentOS is
 knowing that you can then replicate and upscale your testing
 environment to production on CentOS 6 without worrying about having to
 go though another full testing cycle due to the promise of full binary
 compatibility, not sure that you can do that with SL as they have a
 different raison d'etre

 With regards to communication to the community IMHO you can assume
 that the lack of it indicates the effort required to get 4.9, 5.6 and
 6 out the door and underlines the devs determination to get it right
 first time. As evidence of this, follow CentOS mailing list and look
 at how many help threads are from problems with the core product.

 It must be quite a burden to know that releasing CentOS that isn't bug
 for bug compatible with RHEL or is flawed in some way could cause
 many, many production servers to fall over.

 I would like to thank the devs for all their time and effort

 mike

sure, me too. I run CentOS servers and do all the patches every day  
and get great value for the money. But that doesn't make me deaf dumb  
and blind, the project management badly needs work. The firefox issue  
is a bit misleading for reasons mike points out, but for instance I  
can't deploy Drupal 7, for which there is a lot of demand, unless I  
open up non-CentOS repos. Not the end of the world, but one more  
avenue into the system and one more thing to watch out for. I mean I'd  
be happy to make a cash donation to get more bodies on the problem  
(when taken with all the other well-wishers and would-be supporters)  
but it doesn't seem as if there is a way.

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[CentOS] respawning apache on centos

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Hi 

I have a centos instance on a host where uname -a shows:

Linux cl28810.com 2.6.18-194.26.1.el5.028stab079.2PAE #1 SMP Fri Dec 17 
19:34:22 MSK 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

Periodically my ssh access and http access slow dramatically and I get out of 
memory when trying to do rudimentary stuff like ls. I've been advised by tech 
support to try service httpd restart. This works. But the first thing that 
happens after the command is issued is that the load goes up to about 15 then 
slowly declines to a more typical figure, in the range feom .1 to 1.3, which 
is fine. It takes several minutes before the site is really usable. I now have 
22 apache instances out of 66 total processes, which seems excessive.

One site hosted, running drupal 7, 1.5G RAM lots of disk spece, two cores, 
Xeon based host. I don't know if this is an apache issue or CentOS related or 
what.

Ideas? Debugging I can do?

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Re: [CentOS] respawning apache on centos

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On Thursday, March 17, 2011 01:09:46 pm Eero Volotinen wrote:
 2011/3/17 Brunner, Brian T. bbrun...@gai-tronics.com:
  centos-boun...@centos.org wrote:
  One site hosted, running drupal 7, 1.5G RAM lots of disk
  spece, two cores, Xeon based host.
  I don't know if this is an apache issue or
  CentOS related or
  what.
  
  My first recommendation: You could double (or quadruple) that RAM far
  cheaper than talking about it.
 
 is this openvz based virtual machine?

virtuozzo is what the hosting org says

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Re: [CentOS] respawning apache on centos

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On Thursday, March 17, 2011 01:09:48 pm m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 Dave Stevens wrote:
  Periodically my ssh access and http access slow dramatically and I get
  out of memory when trying to do rudimentary stuff like ls. I've been
  advised by
 
 snip
 
  is fine. It takes several minutes before the site is really usable. I now
  have 22 apache instances out of 66 total processes, which seems
  excessive.
  
  One site hosted, running drupal 7, 1.5G RAM lots of disk spece, two
  cores, Xeon based host. I don't know if this is an apache issue or
  CentOS related or what.
  
  Ideas? Debugging I can do?
 
 For one thing, I'd strongly urge you to add at least another .5G RAM, if
 not 2.5G. Second, look at the apache configuration, and see how many
 workers it can use - you might want to lower the limit.

ok, I'll look at that

 
 Also, what's your connection to the 'Net like,my measured download to the 
server is 40 mbps

 and how heavily is your
 website being hit?

almost not at all, not in production



 
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 It's happened here.
 
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Re: [CentOS] respawning apache on centos

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On Thursday, March 17, 2011 02:31:28 pm Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 On 3/18/11, Dave Stevens g...@uniserve.com wrote:
  Hi
  
  I have a centos instance on a host where uname -a shows:
  
  Linux cl28810.com 2.6.18-194.26.1.el5.028stab079.2PAE #1 SMP Fri Dec 17
  19:34:22 MSK 2010 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
 
 I would suggest you look into the swap settings on both the Centos*
 host and the Centos* guest.
 
 Is swap stored on RAID0+1 etc.
 
 Is the VM stored in LVM or on  filesystem, if any, which?
 
 It is also difficult to make out if the 1.5G RAM you mentioned is
 physically on the host or allocated to VM.
 
 Having some such details would make an interest furtherance to this thread.
 
 HTH
 
 Regards,
 
 Rajagopal

Thanks to all who replied, I'm taking the matter forward with the hosting 
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[CentOS] email to web posting software?

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Dear CentOS,

I have a user group that would like to be able to routinely post (easily) 
emails to a web site. Must be usable without special training. I have no 
experience with this. Anyone have a suggestion? LAMP stack installed.

Dave

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Re: [CentOS] email to web posting software?

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On Monday, March 07, 2011 02:41:03 pm Dave Stevens wrote:
 Dear CentOS,
 
 I have a user group that would like to be able to routinely post (easily)
 emails to a web site. Must be usable without special training. I have no
 experience with this. Anyone have a suggestion? LAMP stack installed.
 
 Dave

Thanks. I'll need to sort through this a bit. Frank if you do generalize your 
work so others can use it will you let us know please?

dave

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Re: [CentOS] Ken Olsen od DEC, 1927-2011

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Quoting Dr. Ed Morbius dredmorb...@gmail.com:

 on 16:34 Tue 08 Feb, Raymond Lillard (r...@sonic.net) wrote:
 On 02/08/2011 03:28 PM, Dr. Ed Morbius wrote:
  on 17:02 Tue 08 Feb, Les Mikesell (lesmikes...@gmail.com) wrote:
  On 2/8/2011 4:40 PM, Johnny H wrote:
  Thanks Mark, for this and your previous email.

  Unfortunately, the thing he will probably be most remembered for is the
  1977 quote: There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in
  his home.

 I respectfully disagree.  One mis-statement in a public speech
 does not come close to defining the man.

 The statement is generally quoted without context as it is
 here.  He was actually speaking of computer controlled homes,
 (temperature, lighting, etc...)  rather than the PC (entertainment
 and communication) found in most homes today.  We are of course,
 sneaking up on the home control thing (energy management), so in
 time he will have been mistaken in the context he intended.

 Ironically, in those years my well appointed apartment was
 furnished with a surplus PDP-8, an air mattress, stereo system
 and a Mr Coffee.  This was of course prior to wife and family.  :-)
 I did get to keep the stereo system.

  In fairness, Olsen wasn't the only one to make a comically understated
  estimate of future widespread computer use.  Ed Yourdon proclaimed in
  1975 (the year Apple Computer was founded):  unless you're very rich
  or very eccentric, you'll never have your own computer.  In fairness, he
  fessed up to it in a later book:  http://bit.ly/hlIO1v

 Others have made similarly short-sighted remarks in public places.
 Most of us make them on less exalted stages and so are not called
 to account.

 Most of us aren't CEOs of leading tech firms, with a core professional
 competency being to sort which way the wind blows (or self-proclaimed
 tech visionaries in Yourdon's case).

 That said:  in tech, the wind changes direction often, and there are
 many examples of the one-time pack leader making what are seen to be
 highly inaccurate dismissals of an upstart technology or products.
 Usually in the midst of trying to turn back the tide.

 I'm just wracking my brains right now to think if there might possibly
 be some examples involving Linux, but I can't for the life of me think
 of one.

How about, this will be the year of Linux on the desktop!


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Re: [CentOS] simple website hit counter

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On Friday, November 26, 2010 02:00:04 pm Frank Cox wrote:
 Googling for this finds me a ton of stuff that doesn't actually do what I'm
 looking for.
 
 I want a simple hit counter cgi script of some kind that will increment a
 counter on every page load but I want to access the counter from a
 different page.
 
 In other words, I don't want to have a visible hit counter on the webpage
 itself.  I want to have a different webpage that will show me the number.

wouldn't webalyzer do that for you?

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[CentOS] experience with Sympa to Mailman?

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I have a Centos 5.5 box with Mailman installed. A new user will host lists 
using Mailman, moving from a Sympa based host. Sympa isn't in the repos, does 
anyone know why? or have any experience moving the archive from Sympa to 
Mailman?

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Re: [CentOS] upcoming mailman version change?

[Dave Stevens]

On Sunday, November 21, 2010 05:49:25 pm Morten P.D. Stevens wrote:
 2010/11/22 Dave Stevens g...@uniserve.com:
  Hi,
  
  I'm using CentOS on a box that, among other things, offers mailman
  mailing lists, currently mailman 2.1.9. Version 2.1.14 is avilable
  from the developers but integrating it into the system promises to be
  tedious. I looked at RHEL 6 and don't know where to look to find the
  version there, which I assume will be the version in CentOS 6. Can
  anyone either confirm what version will be in C6 or where to find the
  full feature list in RHEL 6?
  
  Dave
 
 Hi Dave,
 
 It is mailman 2.1.12.


Thank you very much.

Dave

 
 [r...@x86-002 ~]# yum info mailman
 Loaded plugins: rhnplugin, security
 Available Packages
 Name   : mailman
 Arch   : x86_64
 Epoch  : 3
 Version: 2.1.12
 Release: 14.el6
 Size   : 7.2 M
 Repo   : rhel-x86_64-server-6
 Summary: Mailing list manager with built in Web access
 License: GPLv2+
 Description: Mailman is software to help manage email discussion lists,
 much like
 
: Majordomo and Smartmail. Unlike most similar products, Mailman
: gives each mailing list a webpage, and allows users to
: subscribe, unsubscribe, etc. over the Web. Even the list
: manager can administer his or her list entirely from the Web.
: Mailman also integrates most things people want to do with
: mailing lists, including archiving, mail - news gateways,
: and so on.
: 
: Documentation can be found in: /usr/share/doc/mailman-2.1.12
: 
: When the package has finished installing, you will need to
: perform some additional installation steps, these are
: described in: /usr/share/doc/mailman-2.1.12/INSTALL.REDHAT
 
 Best regards,
 
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[CentOS] upcoming mailman version change?

[Dave Stevens]

Hi,

I'm using CentOS on a box that, among other things, offers mailman  
mailing lists, currently mailman 2.1.9. Version 2.1.14 is avilable  
from the developers but integrating it into the system promises to be  
tedious. I looked at RHEL 6 and don't know where to look to find the  
version there, which I assume will be the version in CentOS 6. Can  
anyone either confirm what version will be in C6 or where to find the  
full feature list in RHEL 6?

Dave

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[CentOS] upgrading Centos-Xen when version 6 comes along

[Dave Stevens]

I am curious what is the best way to upgrade my dom0 and domUs to V.6  
(currently 5) when it releases. Any experience or docs on this?

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Re: [CentOS] upgrading Centos-Xen when version 6 comes along

[Dave Stevens]

Quoting Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org:

 On 11/16/2010 12:36 AM, Dave Stevens wrote:
 I am curious what is the best way to upgrade my dom0 and domUs to V.6
 (currently 5) when it releases. Any experience or docs on this?

 the Base CentOS-6 will have no Xen dom0 support, so you will almost
 certainly want to stick with centos-5 on the dom0, for the DomU's you
 can rebuild / upgrade using the regular process.

 While centos-6 goes through beta and qa, its customary to make notes
 about potential upgrade paths. So keep a lookout for those closer to
 release time.

 - KB

OK, thanks very much.

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[CentOS] installing 32 bit vlc on Centos 5.5??

[Dave Stevens]

I'm in yum dependency hell using epel, rpmforge and rpmfusion repos to  
install vlc on 32 bit Centos 5.5. Anyone have a better idea? Doesn't  
really have to be vlc I just want to be able to play a dvd and Movie  
Player complains about missing plugins without saying what they are.

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Re: [CentOS] installing 32 bit vlc on Centos 5.5??

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Quoting Scott Robbins scot...@nyc.rr.com:

 On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 10:36:19PM -0700, Dave Stevens wrote:
 I'm in yum dependency hell using epel, rpmforge and rpmfusion repos to
 install vlc on 32 bit Centos 5.5. Anyone have a better idea? Doesn't
 really have to be vlc I just want to be able to play a dvd and Movie
 Player complains about missing plugins without saying what they are.

 Is movieplayer mplayer?

I don't think so I think it's Totem

  If not, that's what I'd suggest, it's always
 handled everything I've thrown at it--I install it from rpmforge.

 I also have rpmforge's vlc, (and rpm -qR |wc -l shows 140 dependencies),
 compared to mplayer's 84.

 I would strongly recommend using priorities.

ok, will do


 If you give a sample of the sort of dependency error you're getting,
 someone might be better able to help.


good idea, will have to wait until tomorrow now.

Thanks

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[CentOS] yum downgrade working?

[Dave Stevens]

Hi,

I recently accepted some updates that broke functionality due to a  
change in mapserver on my centos 5.5 box. I would like to try yum  
downgrade mapserver but when I do it goes through the motions and  
gives no output. What am I missing?

Dave

see:

[r...@babine dave]# yum downgrade mapserver
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror
Setting up Downgrade Process
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
  * addons: www.muug.mb.ca
  * base: www.muug.mb.ca
  * extras: www.muug.mb.ca
  * rpmforge: apt.sw.be
  * updates: www.muug.mb.ca
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Re: [CentOS] can't update CENTOS - mirrore issue? or what?

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Quoting Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org:

 On 05/20/2010 09:57 PM, Ryan Manikowski wrote:
 Could not retrieve mirrorlist
 http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=5arch=i386repo=addons error was
 [Errno 4] IOError:urlopen error (-3, 'Temporary failure in name
 resolution')
 Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: addons

 Disable the 'addons' repo and your problem will be resolved.

 That sounds like a bit of very random advice, given that Dave's dns is
 not responding - how would disabling the addons repo have an impact on
 Dave's nameserver ?

 - KB

well I did disable addons and then was able to do the update. Then  
when I checked for available updates I got only three showing, all  
listed as epel. For the moment those updates are of no special  
importance so I'm happy to deal with other problems. Nonetheless I  
remained puzzled by both the original problem and the fix.

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[CentOS] can't update CENTOS - mirrore issue? or what?

[Dave Stevens]

For about a week a biug stack of updates have been pending for CENTOS  
but I can't install them. The yum update command leads to dependency  
resolution in the usual way but it always ends in this:

--- Package poppler-utils.i386 0:0.5.4-4.4.el5_4.11 set to be updated
--- Package xorg-x11-drv-qxl.i386 0:0.0.12-1.2.el5 set to be updated
-- Running transaction check
-- Processing Dependency: gmime = 2.2.10-5.el5.centos for package:  
gmime-sharp
--- Package java-1.6.0-openjdk.i386 1:1.6.0.0-1.7.b09.el5 set to be updated
http://linux.mirrors.es.net/fedora-epel/5/i386/repodata/0a2db1a48154104f63a81022653699a425c794c3-filelists.sqlite.bz2:
 [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not  
Found
Trying other mirror.
http://www.muug.mb.ca/pub/epel/5/i386/repodata/0a2db1a48154104f63a81022653699a425c794c3-filelists.sqlite.bz2:
 [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not  
Found
Trying other mirror.

[...and about another thirty lines with some intended-to-be-helpful  
suggestions that don't work.]

At first I thought it might just be that the mirrors were busy with  
lotsa downloads but as time goes by this is a progressively less and  
less satisfactory situation. Does anyone else have this problem? or a  
suggestion?

TIA,

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Re: [CentOS] can't update CENTOS - mirrore issue? or what?

[Dave Stevens]

Quoting m.r...@5-cent.us:

 Dave wrote:

 For about a week a biug stack of updates have been pending for CENTOS
 but I can't install them. The yum update command leads to dependency
 resolution in the usual way but it always ends in this:

 --- Package poppler-utils.i386 0:0.5.4-4.4.el5_4.11 set to be updated
 --- Package xorg-x11-drv-qxl.i386 0:0.0.12-1.2.el5 set to be updated
 -- Running transaction check
 -- Processing Dependency: gmime = 2.2.10-5.el5.centos for package:
 gmime-sharp
 --- Package java-1.6.0-openjdk.i386 1:1.6.0.0-1.7.b09.el5 set to be
 updated
 http://linux.mirrors.es.net/fedora-epel/5/i386/repodata/0a2db1a48154104f63a81022653699a425c794c3-filelists.sqlite.bz2:
 [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not
 Found
 Trying other mirror.
 snip
 I see it's trying to get a file list. I started upgrading this week, and
 get the occasional pkgKey not found. You might try what I found as the
 answer: yum clean all, yum clean metadata.

  mark

well, I'm now much better off in consequence of disabling epel, 179  
updates went through just fine. the cleanup with yum didn't seem to  
have the desired effect:

[r...@cserver admin]# yum check-update
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, priorities
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
  * addons: ftp.telus.net
  * base: ftp.telus.net
  * epel: linux.mirrors.es.net
  * extras: ftp.telus.net
  * updates: ftp.telus.net

gmime.i386  2.2.25-1.el5
epel
wxBase.i386 2.8.11-1.el5
epel
wxGTK.i386  2.8.11-1.el5
epel
[r...@cserver admin]# yum clean all
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, priorities
Cleaning up Everything
Cleaning up list of fastest mirrors
[r...@cserver admin]# yum clean metadata
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, priorities
0 metadata files removed
0 sqlite files removed
0 metadata files removed
[r...@cserver admin]# yum update
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, priorities
Determining fastest mirrors
Could not retrieve mirrorlist  
http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=5arch=i386repo=addons error was
[Errno 4] IOError: urlopen error (-3, 'Temporary failure in name  
resolution')
Error: Cannot find a valid baseurl for repo: addons
[r...@cserver admin]#

so definite progress but not quite there yet. thanks for the help.

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[CentOS] ethernet outages C5.4

[Dave Stevens]

Hello All,

I don't have any reason to believe CENTOS (5.4) is underlying my  
difficulties but it's what I've got to work with so here's the setup:

I have a 2P motherboard with 2 Opteron 2376s and two ethernet ports.  
The setup is fully virtualized, with Dom0, dom4 and Dom1 up and  
running. dom4 is attached to a dhcp service on eth0 and has no problems.

I've recently connected dom1 to eth1. eth1 is connected to a dsl modem  
(no router) and to the ISP's dsl signal It has a static IP address,  
204.174.35.205. At intervals of a few hours the dom1 service on eth1  
became inaccessible, not responding for either web or ssh access. eth0  
on another provider's network remains up at this time. I can fix the  
availability issue by ssh'ing to the eth0 side, then ssh from there to  
dom1 (at 192.168.0.117) and then from the inside out ping any external  
address, it doesn't seem to matter which one. Then the connections get  
through and all is well for a while.

I have a workaround in place with this command:

watch -n 60 ping -c 1 uniserve.com

That's been running for two days and access from outside has been  
uninterrupted.

I don't know where to start on this one. It could be a funny router  
setup at the ISp's end or maybe the port (previously disused) on this  
board is really flaky (but then why does pinging help?). The board,  
fyi is a Tyan Thunder 3600m, S2932.

Ideas?

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Re: [CentOS] ethernet outages C5.4

[Dave Stevens]

Quoting JohnS jse...@gmail.com:


 On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 12:39 -0700, Dave Stevens wrote:
 Hello All,

 I don't have any reason to believe CENTOS (5.4) is underlying my
 difficulties but it's what I've got to work with so here's the setup:

 I have a 2P motherboard with 2 Opteron 2376s and two ethernet ports.
 The setup is fully virtualized, with Dom0, dom4 and Dom1 up and
 running. dom4 is attached to a dhcp service on eth0 and has no problems.

 I've recently connected dom1 to eth1. eth1 is connected to a dsl modem
 (no router) and to the ISP's dsl signal It has a static IP address,
 204.174.35.205. At intervals of a few hours the dom1 service on eth1
 became inaccessible, not responding for either web or ssh access. eth0
 on another provider's network remains up at this time. I can fix the
 availability issue by ssh'ing to the eth0 side, then ssh from there to
 dom1 (at 192.168.0.117) and then from the inside out ping any external
 address, it doesn't seem to matter which one. Then the connections get
 through and all is well for a while.

 I have a workaround in place with this command:

 watch -n 60 ping -c 1 uniserve.com

 Effectively your telling it to KeepAlive.
 Is the router/modem going to sleep?
 Preston seems to think like me also I just read his reply to you.


 John

OK, I'm talking to the modem supplier/tech support. Will let you know.

Thanks,

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[CentOS] C5 XEN domain not startable

[Dave Stevens]

Hi,

I have a Centos 5 box with dom0 and several domUs and one of them is  
not runnable. I ran updates several days ago and the update included a  
kernel update so I used virt-manager to reboot. But it won't book. It  
shows as not running and when I try to run it I get a dialog box with  
this:

Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/share/virt-manager/virtManager/engine.py, line 498, in  
run_domain
 vm.startup()
   File /usr/share/virt-manager/virtManager/domain.py, line 573, in startup
 self.vm.create()
   File /usr/lib64/python2.4/site-packages/libvirt.py, line 287, in create
 if ret == -1: raise libvirtError ('virDomainCreate() failed', dom=self)
libvirtError: Unknown failure

I don't know what to do about this. Anyone have ideas?

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Re: [CentOS] compilers a security risk?

[Dave Stevens]

On Sunday 07 March 2010 09:54:23 am Les Mikesell and MANY others wrote:

 
 While I typically do have the compilers and kernel headers installed on
 general purpose servers where I might want to run VMware server or rebuild
 a source rpm, I would not be very comfortable if I did not have a matching
 test machine where I could build and test before trying it in production -
 and then it would be possible to just copy the binary anyway.

and all in all I've had a lot of good advice.

So, we will run a separate VM as a development environment with authorized 
access to about 4 people. I already run updates every day so it seems we 
should be fairly safe there. 

Thanks to all who answered.

Dave
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[CentOS] compilers a security risk?

[Dave Stevens]

I manage a web hosting server that we've recently upgraded, in part so  
we could accommodate a domain that will enable community mapping. In a  
recent exchange of mails one developer said:


I could build the package directly on the server machine you have,
provided that the potential security risk posed by having compilers
installed is not an issue.

and another said:

What sort of security risk is there in having compilers installed on a
working server?

Obviously we can remove the compilers, however when Mapserver or postgis
get updated, we will need to build new packages somewhere. One option:
create a second VM for mapchat. We'll put the build environment on it,
and only turn it on to make new packages.

I don't have enough experience to assess the security issues. Does  
anyone have an opinion on this? It would be simple and feasible to  
allocate another domain as suggested above.

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Re: [CentOS] XEN

[Dave Stevens]

Quoting Matt lm7...@gmail.com:

 I have a fairly high disk i/o intensive email server I am thinking of
 upgrading.  I was thinking of upgrading it to CentOS 5.x 64bit.  I was
 also thinking of running it as a guest under XEN.  Would this allow me
 to more easilly transfer it to faster hardware in the future?  Or
 would running as a guest seriously hurt disk i/o?

I'm running a web and mail server in a guest xen domain with a raid 10  
setup and have no disk i/o issues. I think you haven't supplied enough  
info for a complete answer, though. How much traffic, how much RAM,  
what disk(s) size and config will make a difference.

Dave

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.4 and TYAN s4985 motherboard....

[Dave Stevens]

On Monday 04 January 2010 07:09:32 am Tom Bishop wrote:
 Was wondering if anyone has any luck with the Tyan s4985 motherboard, I had
 loaded up the latest 5.4 release and in installed most everything that I
 wanted but when I loaded it up, as in processor wise it would lock up.
 Funny thing I could still ssh to it but not do a su - or anything from the
 console.  I think it is kernel related and tried the previous kernel but it
 still exhibited the same symptom.  The only thing I saw in the log was a
 message about a soft lockup on cpu0, there is a open bug for that but from
 the description doesn't appear to cause any issues.  I am running 4 opteron
 8356 just for clarification

is your BIOS up to date?

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Re: [CentOS] Some basic LVM questions

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Quoting Monte Milanuk memila...@gmail.com:

 M. Hamzah Khan wrote:
 On Sun, 2009-11-08 at 10:44 -0800, Monte Milanuk wrote:

 What I think most people do (and what I am doing now), is to setup
 RAID-1 or so behind the volume group. This way you will still be safe if
 one of the drives fail. Keep in mind that RAID is not a backup solution,
 and you should still create regular backups. :)


 In practical terms, it may all be a moot point.  I'm not too sure how
 much more I can jam in that mini-tower case without other problems, and
 (hopefully) 500GB should be enough storage for now; intended usage is
 just backing up users home directories from a few PCs  laptops in the
 house.  If I truly intend to implement LVM + RAID it may have to be in a
 newer dedicated setup.  I think for the time being though, I will look
 at removing the 500gb drive from the first volume group and creating a
 second one with just it in there.  Who knows, I might get brave and
 start mucking about w/ software raid and see what I can put together ;)

 I know everyone says RAID is not substitute for a proper backup
 solution... but this machine *is* the backup for the rest of the
 network.  At what point should one draw the line for backing up?  What
 is there out there that is still reasonably economical for backing up
 say, a RAID 1 setup of two 1TB drives, or a RAID 5 setup of three drives
 that size?  Tape?  Looks to be just about out-stripped in size by cheap
 hard drives, at least in anything even remotely in my price range.  NAS
 - which is probably going to have its own version of RAID?

well, I'm dealing with this right now, I've taken delivery of a pile  
of parts that will be a new server Real Soon Now (TM). The four 750  
drives will be a sw RAID 0+1 array with striping for performance and  
mirroring for redundancy. There will be an identical 5th drive in the  
box and not connected as a spare for 1 drive failure. Then there will  
be an off-site 1.5T in another box doing rsync as the last line of  
backup. The reason for sw raid is that I get to use eight opteron  
cores rather than the dinky cpu on a raid card and that I don't need  
to be concerned that a replacement raid controller might have a  
different BIOS than the one I started with.

HTH

Dave



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Re: [CentOS] firefox on 5.4

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Quoting John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com:

 I just installed 5.3 about a week ago, fairly minimal install, x86_64
 platform...  then upgraded to 5.4 this AM, and just installed firefox

 $ sudo yum -y install firefox
 .
 Installed:
   firefox.i386 0:3.0.12-1.el5.centos   firefox.x86_64
 0:3.0.12-1.el5.centos

 $ firefox
 Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.0.12 and 1.9.0.12.



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[CentOS] RAID advice? and KVM advice?

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Hello All,

In the not too distant future I will be commissioning a new CentOS  
(5.4?) box with 4 identical SATA drives. I'd like to set them up as  
RAID 1+0 for speed and redundancy. I've read the RHEL 5 deployment  
guide on raid setup and it seems to cover the basics of software raid  
pretty well, but doesn't cover 1+0. Does anyone have a reference for  
that kind of configuration?

I'd also like to have two virtual domains, one for CentOS and one for  
Debian. any suggestions for setup docs for that kind of arrangement?

TIA.

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Re: [CentOS] ftp issue in Centos 5.3

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Quoting Lanny Marcus lmmailingli...@gmail.com:

 On 9/29/09, Dave Stevens g...@uniserve.com wrote:
 I manage a small server that I back up weekly. I do this by making a
 tarball of relevant files then transferring it over the local subnet
 to my station (Fedora 11), whereupon I burn it to DVD. There is no
 optical burner on the server. The tarball amounts to a bit under 5
 gigs. Recently I've started getting an error telling me to try PASV or
 PORT first. I use the gFTP client on my machine and as far as I know
 there is no option in this program to use either option either locally
 or remotely (on the server.)

 Any ideas on this one?

 I use gFTP to transfer small files to/from one of my web sites. Are
 you using a proxy? In the Options, for FTP, there is an Ignore PASV
 address.  You may want to Google for this error and surf over to
 http://www.gftp.org/  Strange that you began getting these errors and
 I wonder if it has to do with your Fedora 11 box and not your server.
GL

yes, it apparently was a problem at my end. I removed and reinstalled  
gFTP and things started to work again. The robustness (or lack  
thereof) of the backup method will get solved in the not too distant  
future since I have just ordered the new dream server and will be  
rsyncing off-site more-or-less continuously.

Thanks for the tips.

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[CentOS] ftp issue in Centos 5.3

[Dave Stevens]

I manage a small server that I back up weekly. I do this by making a  
tarball of relevant files then transferring it over the local subnet  
to my station (Fedora 11), whereupon I burn it to DVD. There is no  
optical burner on the server. The tarball amounts to a bit under 5  
gigs. Recently I've started getting an error telling me to try PASV or  
PORT first. I use the gFTP client on my machine and as far as I know  
there is no option in this program to use either option either locally  
or remotely (on the server.)

Any ideas on this one?

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Re: [CentOS] yum issue with extras repo? OMG OMFG OMFFG!!!

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On Wednesday 09 September 2009 01:02:53 pm Dave Stevens wrote:
 Hello All,

 As you can see below I am having a problem checking for updates. This
 happens repeatedly. I have to kill the process then rerun. I have
 tried yum clean all but no joy - the process hangs again on extras
 - see second listing below. Suggestions?

 Dave

well, I didn't expect to stir up such a lot of contention, that's for sure.

I tried Akemi's suggestions to no avail. The suggestions others have made are 
worth pursuing too but I haven't got to them yet.

Yes, I do have a good reason for including third party repos. One of my sites 
uses a web GIS application hosted on the server and it needs the pgdg83 repo. 
I use Virtualmin to manage the server and so their repos are in there too.

In actual practice this issue is going to get solved in another way. I've just 
been given enough budget to replace the server so I plan to go to Centos 5.4 
and to provide a virtual machine for that one app on its own. Then it will be 
up to the developer to manage repos as needed.

Some of the remarks have referenced corrupt metadata. I thought of this, ran 
yum clean all, no joy. I assume that if there were a problem with a core 
Centos repo I'd hear about it on the list so I have not worried about that.

Thanks to all who answered.

Dave


 [r...@cserver ~]# yum check-update
 Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, priorities
 Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile


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Re: [CentOS] yum issue with extras repo?

[Dave Stevens]

On Friday 11 September 2009 10:47:31 am Jim Perrin wrote:
 yum -d6
 check-update

Like this:

[r...@cserver ~]# yum -d6 check-update
Loading fastestmirror plugin
Loading priorities plugin
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, priorities
Running config handler for priorities plugin
Config time: 0.449
Running init handler for fastestmirror plugin
Yum Version: 3.2.19
COMMAND: yum -d6 check-update 
Installroot: /
Setting up Package Sacks
Running postreposetup handler for fastestmirror plugin
Determining fastest mirrors
 * epel: fedora.mirror.facebook.net
 * base: ftp.telus.net
 * updates: ftp.telus.net
 * addons: ftp.telus.net
 * extras: ftp.telus.net
epel | 2.1 kB 00:00 
primary.sqlite.bz2   | 2.6 MB 00:15 
virtualmin   |  951 B 00:00 
primary.xml.gz   |  70 kB 00:00 
virtualmin 254/254
pgdg83   | 1.9 kB 00:00 
primary.sqlite.bz2   | 120 kB 00:00 
virtualmin-universal |  951 B 00:00 
primary.xml.gz   |  11 kB 00:00 
base | 1.1 kB 00:00 
primary.xml.gz   | 878 kB 00:03 
base   2508/2508
updates  |  951 B 00:01 
primary.xml.gz   | 318 kB 00:01 
updates479/479
addons   |  951 B 00:00 
primary.xml.gz   |  157 B 00:00 
extras   | 1.1 kB 00:00 
primary.xml.gz   | 107 kB 00:00 
extras 324/324
Running exclude handler for priorities plugin
pkgsack time: 48.960
Reading Local RPMDB
rpmdb time: 0.001
Building updates object


hangs here

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[CentOS] yum issue with extras repo?

[Dave Stevens]

Hello All,

As you can see below I am having a problem checking for updates. This  
happens repeatedly. I have to kill the process then rerun. I have  
tried yum clean all but no joy - the process hangs again on extras  
- see second listing below. Suggestions?

Dave

[r...@cserver ~]# yum check-update
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, priorities
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
  * epel: fedora.mirror.facebook.net
  * base: ftp.telus.net
  * updates: ftp.telus.net
  * addons: ftp.telus.net
  * extras: ftp.telus.net
epel | 2.1 kB 00:00
virtualmin   |  951 B 00:00
pgdg83   | 1.9 kB 00:00
virtualmin-universal |  951 B 00:00
base | 1.1 kB 00:00
updates  |  951 B 00:00
addons   |  951 B 00:00
extras   | 1.1 kB 00:00

--- hangup here -

 listing 2 ---

[r...@cserver ~]# yum clean all
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, priorities
Cleaning up Everything
Cleaning up list of fastest mirrors
[r...@cserver ~]# yum check-update
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, priorities
Determining fastest mirrors
  * epel: fedora.mirror.facebook.net
  * base: ftp.telus.net
  * updates: ftp.telus.net
  * addons: ftp.telus.net
  * extras: ftp.telus.net
epel | 2.1 kB 00:00
primary.sqlite.bz2   | 2.6 MB 00:16
virtualmin   |  951 B 00:00
primary.xml.gz   |  70 kB 00:00
virtualmin 254/254
pgdg83   | 1.9 kB 00:00
primary.sqlite.bz2   | 120 kB 00:01
virtualmin-universal |  951 B 00:00
primary.xml.gz   |  11 kB 00:00
base | 1.1 kB 00:00
primary.xml.gz   | 878 kB 00:04
base   2508/2508
updates  |  951 B 00:00
primary.xml.gz   | 318 kB 00:01
updates479/479
addons   |  951 B 00:00
primary.xml.gz   |  157 B 00:00
extras   | 1.1 kB 00:00
primary.xml.gz   | 107 kB 00:00
extras 324/324



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Re: [CentOS] Million linux virtual machines

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Quoting Jake Shipton jak...@hotmail.co.uk:

 On 05/08/09 14:15, Bob Hoffman wrote:
 ~Snip~
 Scientists get a million Linux kernels to run at once
 ~Snip~

 (how long before shared hosts use thislol)

 ~Snip! ~

see here: http://xkcd.com/619/

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 Awesome news :D But I hope that computer is Energy efficient and
 doesn't use to much power.. well OK maybe not. (I also kinda don't care)

 I'm guessing that box pulls some power :-D Imagine your power bill after
 running that constantly for a month :o

 Thus I doubt Shared Hosts could afford to run one, let alone more.

 PS: Was the box running CentOS?

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Re: [CentOS] One of my servers crashed, need help

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Quoting Filipe Brandenburger filbran...@gmail.com:

 Hi,

 On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 14:20, Gilbert
 Sebensteseben...@weather.admin.niu.edu wrote:
 No need to...Seagate screws me again. 3rd bad hard drive on this server.
 Unbelievable. Under warranty, but...g.

 I heard something about the 1.5TB Seagate drives having bugs that
 would cause data corruption, and that it could be fixed by doing a
 firmware upgrade, which can be accomplished with a tool downloaded
 from their website... It's second hand information, but maybe check
 their website and google for your exact model to see if there is
 something wrong with it...

you're right, there was a firmware bug and Seagate has a diagnostic  
program to check whether your drive is affected and an update patch to  
fix it. Not only that but if the drive is bricked they are [were]  
offering data recovery.

Dave


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Re: [CentOS] OT: Photo Editor to reduce 272 photos to VGA at once

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Quoting Bill Campbell cen...@celestial.com:

 On Thu, May 07, 2009, John R Pierce wrote:
 Lanny Marcus wrote:
 I returned from Bogotá and have a Folder with 272 photos that total
 419.9 MB. I would like to email them to several people who were there
 for the concerts I attended. I have Picasa, gThumb (not really an
 Editor but I believe it can reduce the quality of photos) and The GIMP
 installed. Is there a way I can have a photo editor reduce all of them
 to VGA size, without doing that 272 times? The people who will receive
 them  are using M$ Windoze.  Also, they are in a folder and it doesn't
 seem possible to attach a folder in gmail. A good way to zip them up
 in one file that can be unzipped on Windoze boxes? TIA!

look around for mass-image-resize. does just what you want

d



 why not post them on a website like picasaweb.google.com (since you
 mentioned picasa) and then just email the URL ?

 The ``convert'' program from ImageMagick will do pretty much
 anything you want including scaling, conversion from one image
 type to another, combining multiple images into PDF or fax/tif
 files, etc.

 It is far better to e-mail links to files on a web or ftp site
 than to send the images directly.

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Re: [CentOS] Is there a web-based server status package?

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Quoting Xn Nooby xno...@gmail.com:

 I have a small squirrelmail server using Postfix  Dovecot, and I
 would like to add a web-based status screen to remotely check its
 health. Is there a preferred packaged for doing this?

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[CentOS] cpu load monitoring

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Hi,

I have a server running Centos 5.2 and am implementing a GIS mapserver app. I 
have some sample logs from another implementation that give me an idea of 
bandwidth requirements but I would like to check the cpu load. I can not be 
at the server during the test and am interested in knowing if there is 
logging of cpu load available. Anyone have experience with this? 
Recommendations?

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[CentOS] anyone using an ATI card and fglrx with 5.2?

[Dave Stevens]

And does it work ok? any special use cases or installation issues? I'm 
thinking of a 64 bit installation with an RV530 chipset.

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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2 yum check-update fails - repo change?

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On Saturday 13 December 2008 03:32:20 am Kai Schaetzl wrote:
 Dave Stevens wrote on Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:32:51 -0800:
  #baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/5/$basearch
  mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=epel-5arch=$
 basearch

 Hm, not hardcoded then. I looked again at ftp://ftp.muug.mb.ca/mirror/
 The epel mirror is to be found in the hierarchy below fedora. That's why it
 looked to be absent.
 I don't think this is a problem on your end.

you must be right. I tried it again this am and everything just works.

Thanks,

Dave

 If this problem persists, I'd contact them as there might be a problem.
 You could change to the baseurl instead for a while and then try again.
 I don't know a way to exclude certain mirrors.

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[CentOS] Centos 5.2 yum check-update fails - repo change?

[Dave Stevens]

A couple of days ago I run yum update to take care of installing new updates 
for evolution.i386, evolution-data-server.i386 and nscd.i386 . The update 
went through with no fuss. Yesterday when I ran check-update I got the exact 
same updates list. So I did not run yum update, thinking this was a sync 
error or a repo issue.

Today (just a few minutes ago) I ran the update check again and got the same 
list. So I ran yum clean all and now I get a different error, detailed below. 
Anyone know why this happens or what to do? I see the epel mirror has changed 
but don't know why or what to make of it. Advice welcome.

Dave

--- transcript follows ---


[ad...@cserver ~]$ yum check-update
Loading fastestmirror plugin
Loading priorities plugin
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * epel: www.muug.mb.ca
 * virtualmin: software.virtualmin.com
 * virtualmin-universal: software.virtualmin.com
 * base: centos.arcticnetwork.ca
 * updates: www.muug.mb.ca
 * addons: www.muug.mb.ca
 * extras: www.muug.mb.ca
0 packages excluded due to repository priority protections

evolution.i386   2.12.3-8.el5_2.3   updates 
evolution-data-server.i386   1.12.3-6.el5_2.3   updates 
nscd.i3862.5-24.el5_2.2 updates 
[ad...@cserver ~]$ man yum
[ad...@cserver ~]$ yum clean all
Loading fastestmirror plugin
Loading priorities plugin
You need to be root to perform this command.
[ad...@cserver ~]$ su -
Password: 
[r...@cserver ~]# yum clean all
Loading fastestmirror plugin
Loading priorities plugin
Cleaning up Everything
Cleaning up list of fastest mirrors
[r...@cserver ~]# exit
logout

[ad...@cserver ~]$ yum check-update
Loading fastestmirror plugin
Loading priorities plugin
Determining fastest mirrors
 * epel: www.muug.mb.ca
 * virtualmin: software.virtualmin.com
 * virtualmin-universal: software.virtualmin.com
 * base: www.muug.mb.ca
 * updates: www.muug.mb.ca
 * addons: www.muug.mb.ca
 * extras: www.muug.mb.ca
Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: epel. 
Please verify its path and try again
[ad...@cserver ~]$ yum check-update
Loading fastestmirror plugin
Loading priorities plugin
Determining fastest mirrors
 * epel: mirror.its.uidaho.edu
 * virtualmin: software.virtualmin.com
 * virtualmin-universal: software.virtualmin.com
 * base: ftp.telus.net
 * updates: ftp.telus.net
 * addons: ftp.telus.net
 * extras: ftp.telus.net
Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: epel. 
Please verify its path and try again
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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2 yum check-update fails - repo change?

[Dave Stevens]

On Friday 12 December 2008 12:31:47 pm Kai Schaetzl wrote:
 Dave Stevens wrote on Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:22:46 -0800:
  Anyone know why this happens or what to do? I see the epel mirror has
  changed

 No, the mirror for base changed.

  Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository:
  epel.

 It doesn't appear to mirror EPEL:
 ftp://ftp.muug.mb.ca/mirror/
 You have likely hardcoded this.

 Kai

Thanks, but I only partly understand. here is the (part) yum.conf

- list ---

[ad...@cserver etc]$ cd yum.repos.d
[ad...@cserver yum.repos.d]$ ls
CentOS-Base.repo   epel.repo  virtualmin.repo
CentOS-Media.repo  epel-testing.repo
[ad...@cserver yum.repos.d]$ ls -al
total 44
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root  4096 Dec  9 23:16 .
drwxr-xr-x 115 root root 12288 Dec 11 21:40 ..
-rw-r--r--   1 root root  2049 Jun 19 06:48 CentOS-Base.repo
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   626 Jun 19 06:48 CentOS-Media.repo
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   954 Apr 25  2008 epel.repo
-rw-r--r--   1 root root  1054 Apr 25  2008 epel-testing.repo
-rwsr-sr-x   1 root root   410 Jul 19  2007 virtualmin.repo
[ad...@cserver yum.repos.d]$ cat epel.repo
[epel]
name=Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux 5 - $basearch
#baseurl=http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/5/$basearch
mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=epel-5arch=$basearch
failovermethod=priority
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-EPEL



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Re: [CentOS] Re: mapserver experience?

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On Friday 07 November 2008 09:29:42 am Dave Stevens wrote:
 On Friday 07 November 2008 12:39:50 am Laurent Wandrebeck wrote:
  2008/11/7 Scott Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   on 11-6-2008 3:35 PM Dave Stevens spake the following:
   I have Centos 5.2 and want to install mapserver. On my Fedora 7 box it
   is in the repo. Should I just enable that repo? Anyone done this?
   Tips/warnings?
  
   Dave
 
  I have some home build (x86_64 from src.rpm) 5.0.2 if you want.
  Laurent.

 thanks, the box is 32 bit cpu.
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I have advice to use this repo:

http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/EPEL/5/

but I don't understand how to enable it. Usually I would put it into yum.conf 
but it seems yum is reading from yum.conf.d. Do I make a text snippet as a 
file or add this to another repo's file or what? Example welcome.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: mapserver experience?

[Dave Stevens]

On Thursday 13 November 2008 02:09:53 pm Laurent Wandrebeck wrote:
 2008/11/13 Dave Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Friday 07 November 2008 09:29:42 am Dave Stevens wrote:
  On Friday 07 November 2008 12:39:50 am Laurent Wandrebeck wrote:
   2008/11/7 Scott Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
on 11-6-2008 3:35 PM Dave Stevens spake the following:
I have Centos 5.2 and want to install mapserver. On my Fedora 7 box
it is in the repo. Should I just enable that repo? Anyone done
this? Tips/warnings?
   
Dave
  
   I have some home build (x86_64 from src.rpm) 5.0.2 if you want.
   Laurent.
 
  thanks, the box is 32 bit cpu.
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  I have advice to use this repo:
 
  http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/EPEL/5/
 
  but I don't understand how to enable it. Usually I would put it into
  yum.conf but it seems yum is reading from yum.conf.d. Do I make a text
  snippet as a file or add this to another repo's file or what? Example
  welcome.
 
  Dave

 you'll find everything you need here:
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL
 Laurent

yes, lovely, thanks very much! installed and working

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Re: [CentOS] Re: mapserver experience?

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On Friday 07 November 2008 12:39:50 am Laurent Wandrebeck wrote:
 2008/11/7 Scott Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  on 11-6-2008 3:35 PM Dave Stevens spake the following:
  I have Centos 5.2 and want to install mapserver. On my Fedora 7 box it
  is in the repo. Should I just enable that repo? Anyone done this?
  Tips/warnings?
 
  Dave

 I have some home build (x86_64 from src.rpm) 5.0.2 if you want.
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[CentOS] mapserver experience?

[Dave Stevens]

I have Centos 5.2 and want to install mapserver. On my Fedora 7 box it is in 
the repo. Should I just enable that repo? Anyone done this? Tips/warnings?

Dave

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