Re: [CentOS-virt] Upgrading Xen 3 on SL 5 server with CentOS 5 and SL 5

2015-03-11 Thread George Dunlap
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 3:33 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia nka...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 2:01 PM, George Dunlap dunl...@umich.edu wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia nka...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen pa...@iki.fi wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 10:07:54AM -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
 Sorry about the accidental bulky quoting! Boston public transit is still 
 slow from storms, and I'm using my phone right now.

 Also, has Xen console access gotten any better for fully virtualized 
 guests? I've just been forcibly reminded how awkward it was to access the 
 Linux installation screens to manipulate kickstart setups.


 I haven't had problems accessing the graphical console of PV or HVM 
 guests. I'm usually using virt-viewer to use the VNC console.

 -- Pasi

 I was referring to the TTY text console, the one that allows
 manipulation of boot options. It looks like it's still pretty awkward.

 What's awkward about it?  When I've passed serial=pty in the HVM
 config file and run xl console, everything seems to work pretty well
 for me.


 And playing with the grub settings. And making sure that the installer
 correctly handles serial access, which tends to confuse the heck out
 of anaconda, and has only gotten worse with the pointlessly and
 insistently graphical installers in CentOS 7.

 I'm not blaming the CentOS team, this came from Fedora upstream to RHEL.

Ah, right -- my primary hat is as Xen developer, so I thought you were
complaining about something on the xen side, not on the installer
side. :-)

 -George
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Re: [CentOS-virt] Upgrading Xen 3 on SL 5 server with CentOS 5 and SL 5

2015-03-09 Thread George Dunlap
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia nka...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen pa...@iki.fi wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 10:07:54AM -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
 Sorry about the accidental bulky quoting! Boston public transit is still 
 slow from storms, and I'm using my phone right now.

 Also, has Xen console access gotten any better for fully virtualized 
 guests? I've just been forcibly reminded how awkward it was to access the 
 Linux installation screens to manipulate kickstart setups.


 I haven't had problems accessing the graphical console of PV or HVM guests. 
 I'm usually using virt-viewer to use the VNC console.

 -- Pasi

 I was referring to the TTY text console, the one that allows
 manipulation of boot options. It looks like it's still pretty awkward.

What's awkward about it?  When I've passed serial=pty in the HVM
config file and run xl console, everything seems to work pretty well
for me.

 -George
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Re: [CentOS-virt] Upgrading Xen 3 on SL 5 server with CentOS 5 and SL 5

2015-03-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 2:01 PM, George Dunlap dunl...@umich.edu wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia nka...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen pa...@iki.fi wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 10:07:54AM -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
 Sorry about the accidental bulky quoting! Boston public transit is still 
 slow from storms, and I'm using my phone right now.

 Also, has Xen console access gotten any better for fully virtualized 
 guests? I've just been forcibly reminded how awkward it was to access the 
 Linux installation screens to manipulate kickstart setups.


 I haven't had problems accessing the graphical console of PV or HVM guests. 
 I'm usually using virt-viewer to use the VNC console.

 -- Pasi

 I was referring to the TTY text console, the one that allows
 manipulation of boot options. It looks like it's still pretty awkward.

 What's awkward about it?  When I've passed serial=pty in the HVM
 config file and run xl console, everything seems to work pretty well
 for me.


And playing with the grub settings. And making sure that the installer
correctly handles serial access, which tends to confuse the heck out
of anaconda, and has only gotten worse with the pointlessly and
insistently graphical installers in CentOS 7.

I'm not blaming the CentOS team, this came from Fedora upstream to RHEL.
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Re: [CentOS-virt] Upgrading Xen 3 on SL 5 server with CentOS 5 and SL 5

2015-02-23 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen pa...@iki.fi wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 10:07:54AM -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
 Sorry about the accidental bulky quoting! Boston public transit is still 
 slow from storms, and I'm using my phone right now.

 Also, has Xen console access gotten any better for fully virtualized guests? 
 I've just been forcibly reminded how awkward it was to access the Linux 
 installation screens to manipulate kickstart setups.


 I haven't had problems accessing the graphical console of PV or HVM guests. 
 I'm usually using virt-viewer to use the VNC console.

 -- Pasi

I was referring to the TTY text console, the one that allows
manipulation of boot options. It looks like it's still pretty awkward.

Either way, I'm alive right now with fully virtualized CentOS 6
installations. I'd love to switch them to be paravirtualized for the
performance benefits, especially since I can't do CD based
installations of new hosts on para-virtualized setups, and I don't
have a PXE server running for this setup.
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Re: [CentOS-virt] Upgrading Xen 3 on SL 5 server with CentOS 5 and SL 5

2015-02-23 Thread Edward L Heron
On Sat, 2015-02-21 at 13:20 -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
 ...
 Following up: I've gotten full virtualization of CentOS 6 on an SL 5
 Xen server by using the virt-install command and avoiding manual
 editing of /etc/xen/ config files.
 
 I've also been reminded, forcibly, of why I hated the /etc/xen
 directory. The lack of distinction between a /etc/xen/myserfer, the
 example files there, and any other unqualified files there as valid
 configation files means making safe backups of the files such as
 myserver.hvm or myserver.old quite painful. I wound up putting
 /etc/xen/ under git source control, just for tracking changes.

  I use virsh list --all to get currently defined VMs and virsh dumpxml
vm name to get domain definitions.


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Re: [CentOS-virt] Upgrading Xen 3 on SL 5 server with CentOS 5 and SL 5

2015-02-22 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 09:56:46AM -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
I'm dealing with an old Xen 3 server, and badly need to update it and all
the vm's on it to more contemporary operating systems.  So far, so good!
Can the Xen server on CentOS 5 para-virtualized CentOS 6?


Yes, CentOS 5 Xen host can run CentOS 6 PV domUs. Or CentOS 6 HVM guests.


And if not, I'm having real trouble getting a live cd or installation 
 media to boot in
full virtualization to do the update of the guests.
I'd normally start by updating the Xen server first, but that's not
workable right now.


Yeah CentOS 6 runs as Xen HVM (fully virtualized) aswell. With or without PV 
drivers (PVHVM).

-- Pasi

 
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  On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 3:10 AM, C. L. Martinez
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On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Sven Kieske [4]s.kie...@mittwald.de
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 On 17/02/15 09:18, C. L. Martinez wrote:
 Hi all,

 How can I stop/disable a nic in a virtual guest using a virsh
 command?? I am searching the same effect like if I unplug network
 cable ... Is it possible?? I have tried with detach-interface
 command without luck. I don't want to remove the nic from guest
 configuration, only to stop the nic ...

 Depending on your network architecture you could just ifdown
 the vmnet, but this just works if you don't have multiple
 vms on one vmnet (which you shouldn't).

 HTH

 --
 
Ok, to do a ifdown of virtual bridge it seems the only option.
 
Many thanks to all for your answers.
 
  * Definitely look to Juerg Haefliger's solution.  It's exactly what you
  want since you requested a method that can be done from the virsh
  interface.  Thanks Juerg!
  1) down the vnetX interface from the host node
ip link show dev vnetX
ip link set down vnetX
ip link show dev vnetX
  And if using bridged networking, you have one more option.
  2) remove the vnetX interface from the bridge
brctl delif bridge_int vnetX
  Certainly downing the interface using either Juerg's solution via virsh
  or mine via iproute2 tools is most ideal since it's easier/simpler to
  reinstate.  You can use ifconfig if you prefer it over ip tools, but
  enjoy those tools and syntax while it remains! [0]  ;-)
  [0] 
 [5]https://dougvitale.wordpress.com/2011/12/21/deprecated-linux-networking-commands-and-their-replacements/
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