Re: "Live coding" on Mac OS X
Hi Arnaud, I know I'm a bit late here, but did you get this working? When you say "not working", what is/isn't happening? Is it your REPL that's not responding, or your game-thread? Sometimes these things are caused by the REPL i/o blocking the game-thread. That is, the read on stdin from the main thread is blocking the game-threads Perhaps that is what you are seeing. If so, just giving the REPL a newline should unfreeze the game-thread. For various technical reasons, this blocking i/o is often less problematical on a REPL that's over a network port instead of just stdin. You could try hosting the repl with the nrepl egg, start it outside of emacs, and connect to it from emacs with `C-u run-scheme nc localhost 1234` for example. This sort of thing is a pretty common problem, unfortunately, were srfi-18 threads can easily block each other. Here is one session where we worked through this. Maybe the code here might be helpful to you: https://paste.call-cc.org/paste?id=dc1ec82557b9ea5846ec976a9987d53d83f401e3 K. On Tue, May 11, 2021, 16:26 Arnaud Bailly wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Thanks for your answer Vasilij! > > You're right, this works when I copy/paste in the REPL And define from > there, but not when I evaluate it from Emacs buffer. > I am using basic scheme-mode with run-scheme function and using C-M-x to > evaluate top-level definition and send it to the REPL which "should" work > but seems like it's not. > > - -- > - -- > Arnaud Bailly - @dr_c0d3 > > On 2021-05-11 at 14:16, m...@vasilij.de wrote: > > Hello Arnaud, > > > > > But it's not working properly: What I observe is that when I change a > > > procedure that's called from the background thread, the thread becomes > > > blocked. Is this some new behaviour that's not taken into account in > > > those posts? > > > > It's tricky to reproduce such issues without a minimal repro. I wrote my > > own and I do not experience such behavior. When I run the attached file > > with `csi -:x test.scm`, I see it printing 1 every 10s. I can then > > copy-paste `(define (game-loop-iteration) (print 2))` into the REPL and > > if I wait another 10 seconds, it prints 2. Do you have the same > > behavior? If yes, then chances are it's the fault of the code change > > (for example it might perform a thread blocking operation). > > > > > $ csi -version > > > CHICKEN > > > (c) 2008-2020, The CHICKEN Team > > > (c) 2000-2007, Felix L. Winkelmann > > > Version 5.2.0 (rev 317468e4) > > > macosx-unix-clang-x86-64 [ 64bit dload ptables ] > > > > > > I am on Mac OS X Catalina 10.15.7. > > > > I'm on the same CHICKEN version, but on Arch Linux. > > > > Vasilij > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: FlowCrypt Email Encryption 8.0.6 > Comment: Seamlessly send and receive encrypted email > > wsFzBAEBCAAGBQJgmpP7ACEJEAgADOwkMld2FiEENp8aNWMznkzbE41KCAAM > 7CQyV3bwGA//djzC+xN0djgNOs29OWsCPayOnVTZg1UN138Onk72m6QzaDs2 > DozVEWL11hg2uJOvOQVDWSYdPFdau6+gIdsK3MIHmrREhYknMU3zp5S7axVg > 8zT3sU3451/6LHLxpnv8ObmuwBEzGXfxj4UieXlWv7pVkhbFxSLy0n8JJtAN > z6Dbt3l/WDjRPYqAJGiQo0AapZqVmRRcXGSa4z7pcBPY2dbHPVuxAP4/vLuN > 43zZDQ+em7oKn5Q7k7tLXF+Ho3/0AX04Cd8pS1TERp+mAAuKqRK52mIKxpoh > nQHewJxLuklaQdATI6uuzPmTQUkGYVzoWmgsSfqy0eRnSNtymLgAs/roWkrD > /fgw2A81VTb4Q+D8rEQ7E/pIk4ARUH7yRM8UTbB/l5pAdjGlJfgbz0A35eLy > ENsCUU7x/jnWPJuhe2Oa0JSwOhsS6Bz4vie1CpsDRJftqr+jyg+E3Wg/32sw > ECuWO/+uDHUYYsoannCwuSuZA/OZe51F0V2FuwqYYkSLL16oBJ665CzWtnpX > bfSuj8ACe5qD4zGOQlfVVQeFD4ig/etjkHpKHTctGq1cPa9v6VCHUr+CiDJm > JuyKEhKO5LYW23IapTfoyS9o30yv3HYfaKVSrz5KbaoPsbFBYI3SMmV5V2PP > yxDja2AuMAp0v+McZi5+AzR1yRUWs70kWUk= > =5yE8 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- >
Re: "Live coding" on Mac OS X
Hello Arnaud, > But it's not working properly: What I observe is that when I change a > procedure that's called from the background thread, the thread becomes > blocked. Is this some new behaviour that's not taken into account in > those posts? It's tricky to reproduce such issues without a minimal repro. I wrote my own and I do not experience such behavior. When I run the attached file with `csi -:x test.scm`, I see it printing 1 every 10s. I can then copy-paste `(define (game-loop-iteration) (print 2))` into the REPL and if I wait another 10 seconds, it prints 2. Do you have the same behavior? If yes, then chances are it's the fault of the code change (for example it might perform a thread blocking operation). > $ csi -version > CHICKEN > (c) 2008-2020, The CHICKEN Team > (c) 2000-2007, Felix L. Winkelmann > Version 5.2.0 (rev 317468e4) > macosx-unix-clang-x86-64 [ 64bit dload ptables ] > > I am on Mac OS X Catalina 10.15.7. I'm on the same CHICKEN version, but on Arch Linux. Vasilij (import scheme) (import (chicken base)) (import (srfi 18)) (define (game-loop-iteration) (print 1)) (define (main) (let loop () (game-loop-iteration) (thread-sleep! 10) (loop))) (define game-thread (thread-start! main)) (cond-expand ((or chicken-script compiling) (thread-join! game-thread)) (else)) (cond-expand (csi (import live-define)) (else)) #; (when (eqv? 'terminated (thread-state game-thread)) (set! game-thread (thread-start! main))) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: "Live coding" on Mac OS X
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Thanks for your answer Vasilij! You're right, this works when I copy/paste in the REPL And define from there, but not when I evaluate it from Emacs buffer. I am using basic scheme-mode with run-scheme function and using C-M-x to evaluate top-level definition and send it to the REPL which "should" work but seems like it's not. - -- - -- Arnaud Bailly - @dr_c0d3 On 2021-05-11 at 14:16, m...@vasilij.de wrote: > Hello Arnaud, > > > But it's not working properly: What I observe is that when I change a > > procedure that's called from the background thread, the thread becomes > > blocked. Is this some new behaviour that's not taken into account in > > those posts? > > It's tricky to reproduce such issues without a minimal repro. I wrote my > own and I do not experience such behavior. When I run the attached file > with `csi -:x test.scm`, I see it printing 1 every 10s. I can then > copy-paste `(define (game-loop-iteration) (print 2))` into the REPL and > if I wait another 10 seconds, it prints 2. Do you have the same > behavior? If yes, then chances are it's the fault of the code change > (for example it might perform a thread blocking operation). > > > $ csi -version > > CHICKEN > > (c) 2008-2020, The CHICKEN Team > > (c) 2000-2007, Felix L. Winkelmann > > Version 5.2.0 (rev 317468e4) > > macosx-unix-clang-x86-64 [ 64bit dload ptables ] > > > > I am on Mac OS X Catalina 10.15.7. > > I'm on the same CHICKEN version, but on Arch Linux. > > Vasilij -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: FlowCrypt Email Encryption 8.0.6 Comment: Seamlessly send and receive encrypted email wsFzBAEBCAAGBQJgmpP7ACEJEAgADOwkMld2FiEENp8aNWMznkzbE41KCAAM 7CQyV3bwGA//djzC+xN0djgNOs29OWsCPayOnVTZg1UN138Onk72m6QzaDs2 DozVEWL11hg2uJOvOQVDWSYdPFdau6+gIdsK3MIHmrREhYknMU3zp5S7axVg 8zT3sU3451/6LHLxpnv8ObmuwBEzGXfxj4UieXlWv7pVkhbFxSLy0n8JJtAN z6Dbt3l/WDjRPYqAJGiQo0AapZqVmRRcXGSa4z7pcBPY2dbHPVuxAP4/vLuN 43zZDQ+em7oKn5Q7k7tLXF+Ho3/0AX04Cd8pS1TERp+mAAuKqRK52mIKxpoh nQHewJxLuklaQdATI6uuzPmTQUkGYVzoWmgsSfqy0eRnSNtymLgAs/roWkrD /fgw2A81VTb4Q+D8rEQ7E/pIk4ARUH7yRM8UTbB/l5pAdjGlJfgbz0A35eLy ENsCUU7x/jnWPJuhe2Oa0JSwOhsS6Bz4vie1CpsDRJftqr+jyg+E3Wg/32sw ECuWO/+uDHUYYsoannCwuSuZA/OZe51F0V2FuwqYYkSLL16oBJ665CzWtnpX bfSuj8ACe5qD4zGOQlfVVQeFD4ig/etjkHpKHTctGq1cPa9v6VCHUr+CiDJm JuyKEhKO5LYW23IapTfoyS9o30yv3HYfaKVSrz5KbaoPsbFBYI3SMmV5V2PP yxDja2AuMAp0v+McZi5+AzR1yRUWs70kWUk= =5yE8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- 0x08000CEC24325776.asc Description: application/pgp-keys
"Live coding" on Mac OS X
Hello, I am a chicken noob (and so far loving it). I am trying to do some live coding/hot reloading like it's explained in this blog post by Kooda https://www.upyum.com/en/post/7.xhtml and this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXB3I3S3vJc But it's not working properly: What I observe is that when I change a procedure that's called from the background thread, the thread becomes blocked. Is this some new behaviour that's not taken into account in those posts? $ csi -version CHICKEN (c) 2008-2020, The CHICKEN Team (c) 2000-2007, Felix L. Winkelmann Version 5.2.0 (rev 317468e4) macosx-unix-clang-x86-64 [ 64bit dload ptables ] I am on Mac OS X Catalina 10.15.7. Thanks for your help. -- Arnaud Bailly - @dr_c0d3
