Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng UV-5R MK4

[Jim Unroe]

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 12:05 PM  wrote:
>
> When I looked at the details, I realized all of the frequencies I was trying
> to copy were DIG mode. Thanks for pointing out that distinction. Is there a
> Chirp manual?
>
> Rich Kramarik
>

There is a "documentation" link on the CHIRP home page.
https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/Home

There is also a CHRP section on the miklor.com website.
https://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_CHIRP.php

Jim KC9HI
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Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng UV-5R MK4

[Kramarik]

When I looked at the details, I realized all of the frequencies I was trying
to copy were DIG mode. Thanks for pointing out that distinction. Is there a
Chirp manual?

Rich Kramarik

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Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng UV-5R MK4

Hi Rich,

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 11:08 AM  wrote:
>
> Is there a manual I can read to understand the details/nuances for using
Chirp? I am trying to import a few lines of detail from an open tab in chirp
(Repeater list) into a different open tab that is the current IMG file for
my radio. I have tried to copy (Control/C) and paste (CTL/V) and that does
not work. I do not want to import the entire file, because I am only missing
3-4 frequencies. Thanks.
>
> Rich Kramarik

How does Ctrl-C / Ctrl-V not work? Do you get an error message? Which OS?
Unless features of the tab that the memory row being copied from are
incompatible with the radio based on the tab it is being copied to, it
should work. If it doesn't, you should see an error message.

For example, you can't copy a memory row of a repeater having a Mode that is
something other than FM or NFM into a tab for a UV-5R. Or you can't copy a
memory row from a 1-1/4 meter repeater into a dual-band VHF/UHF radio model.

Jim KC9HI
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Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng UV-5R MK4

[Jim Unroe]

Hi Rich,

On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 11:08 AM  wrote:
>
> Is there a manual I can read to understand the details/nuances for using 
> Chirp? I am trying to import a few lines of detail from an open tab in chirp 
> (Repeater list) into a different open tab that is the current IMG file for my 
> radio. I have tried to copy (Control/C) and paste (CTL/V) and that does not 
> work. I do not want to import the entire file, because I am only missing 3-4 
> frequencies. Thanks.
>
> Rich Kramarik

How does Ctrl-C / Ctrl-V not work? Do you get an error message? Which
OS? Unless features of the tab that the memory row being copied from
are incompatible with the radio based on the tab it is being copied
to, it should work. If it doesn't, you should see an error message.

For example, you can't copy a memory row of a repeater having a Mode
that is something other than FM or NFM into a tab for a UV-5R. Or you
can't copy a memory row from a 1-1/4 meter repeater into a dual-band
VHF/UHF radio model.

Jim KC9HI
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Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng UV-5R MK4

[Kramarik]

Is there a manual I can read to understand the details/nuances for using Chirp? 
I am trying to import a few lines of detail from an open tab in chirp (Repeater 
list) into a different open tab that is the current IMG file for my radio. I 
have tried to copy (Control/C) and paste (CTL/V) and that does not work. I do 
not want to import the entire file, because I am only missing 3-4 frequencies. 
Thanks.

Rich Kramarik

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Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2021 8:54 AM
To: Discussion of CHIRP 
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng UV-5R MK4

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 10:34 PM ken smith  wrote:
>
> I have successfully been able to use Chirp to upload .csv files etc. All 
> communications between the software and radio seem to work. However, when 
> manually loading HAM repeater information, the upload info seems to not take 
> correctly. For example, I used the software to put in a 2m frequency, no 
> tone, “-“ offset at 0.60 and low transmit power. After the upload, the radio 
> shows the correct frequency and memory name but that’s it. The transmit power 
> shows Medium (which isn’t even an option in the software) and also shows both 
> “+” and “-“ on the radio screen. When keying the mike, it shows CT as if 
> there is a tone being transmitted. Something is not syncing right but I am 
> not getting any error messages. Any help here is appreciated.

It is hard to know what you may have done wrong without having access to the 
CSV file or the actual "image" sent to the radio. I will do my best to guess.

These UV-5R and UV-82 like radios do not use or store the shift direction or 
offset in a memory channel. They aren't required. For this reason, the SFT-D 
and OFFSET menus only function in VFO mode.

What is stored in a memory channel is an RX frequency and a TX frequency. When 
the RX frequency and TX frequency are not the same (as they would not be the 
same for a repeater, odd-split, cross-band or TX disabled channel), there is a 
"+-" indication in the upper status display area. This is to let the user know 
the RX frequency and TX frequency of the selected channel are not the same. 
CHIRP lets users enter the parameters for a repeater as a frequency, shift 
direction and offset, but in the case of a UV-5R and similar radios, CHIRP 
computes the TX frequency and stores that in the "image" to be sent to the 
radio because that is what it requires.

Since your radio can display "MID" as a TXP option, you have a radio with 3 TX 
power levels. You are most likely incorrectly selecting and using the UV-5R 
model when downloading from your radio. The UV-5R model selection is for a 
UV-5R like radio with 2 TX power levels. A UV-5R image with the TXP set to HIGH 
uploaded to a radio with 3 TX power levels would be correctly set to MID in a 
radio with 3 TX power levels. To work with your radio correctly, you should be 
selecting BF-F8HP, which is for UV-5R like radio models with 3 TX power levels, 
to program your radio.

If there is a CT showing up in the left status display area when the [PTT] 
button button is pressed and nothing showing when it is released, you must Tone 
Mode set to Tone and the radio is picking up the default 88.5 Hz tone. It 
should be set to "(None)" in CHIRP and in the CSV file it would be {blank} (in 
other words there would be nothing between the commas (",,").

One way to help understand how the fields of a CSV file should look would be to 
program some working memories in the CHIRP spreadsheet style memory editor and 
export them to a CSV file. An easy way to get working channels would be to 
import some from RepeaterBook or load one of the stock config files.

Jim KC9HI
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Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng UV-5R MK4

[ken smith]

Thanks Jim. I will try using the F8HP to program it. I failed to mention
that I did try to upload repeater info into the radio using RepeaterBook
but it ended up the same way as me manually programming it in chirp. I can
easily program these repeaters into the radio manually with VFO so that may
be the way I go for the HAM frequencies.

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 7:54 AM Jim Unroe  wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 10:34 PM ken smith  wrote:
> >
> > I have successfully been able to use Chirp to upload .csv files etc. All
> communications between the software and radio seem to work. However, when
> manually loading HAM repeater information, the upload info seems to not
> take correctly. For example, I used the software to put in a 2m frequency,
> no tone, “-“ offset at 0.60 and low transmit power. After the upload, the
> radio shows the correct frequency and memory name but that’s it. The
> transmit power shows Medium (which isn’t even an option in the software)
> and also shows both “+” and “-“ on the radio screen. When keying the mike,
> it shows CT as if there is a tone being transmitted. Something is not
> syncing right but I am not getting any error messages. Any help here is
> appreciated.
>
> It is hard to know what you may have done wrong without having access
> to the CSV file or the actual "image" sent to the radio. I will do my
> best to guess.
>
> These UV-5R and UV-82 like radios do not use or store the shift
> direction or offset in a memory channel. They aren't required. For
> this reason, the SFT-D and OFFSET menus only function in VFO mode.
>
> What is stored in a memory channel is an RX frequency and a TX
> frequency. When the RX frequency and TX frequency are not the same (as
> they would not be the same for a repeater, odd-split, cross-band or TX
> disabled channel), there is a "+-" indication in the upper status
> display area. This is to let the user know the RX frequency and TX
> frequency of the selected channel are not the same. CHIRP lets users
> enter the parameters for a repeater as a frequency, shift direction
> and offset, but in the case of a UV-5R and similar radios, CHIRP
> computes the TX frequency and stores that in the "image" to be sent to
> the radio because that is what it requires.
>
> Since your radio can display "MID" as a TXP option, you have a radio
> with 3 TX power levels. You are most likely incorrectly selecting and
> using the UV-5R model when downloading from your radio. The UV-5R
> model selection is for a UV-5R like radio with 2 TX power levels. A
> UV-5R image with the TXP set to HIGH uploaded to a radio with 3 TX
> power levels would be correctly set to MID in a radio with 3 TX power
> levels. To work with your radio correctly, you should be selecting
> BF-F8HP, which is for UV-5R like radio models with 3 TX power levels,
> to program your radio.
>
> If there is a CT showing up in the left status display area when the
> [PTT] button button is pressed and nothing showing when it is
> released, you must Tone Mode set to Tone and the radio is picking up
> the default 88.5 Hz tone. It should be set to "(None)" in CHIRP and in
> the CSV file it would be {blank} (in other words there would be
> nothing between the commas (",,").
>
> One way to help understand how the fields of a CSV file should look
> would be to program some working memories in the CHIRP spreadsheet
> style memory editor and export them to a CSV file. An easy way to get
> working channels would be to import some from RepeaterBook or load one
> of the stock config files.
>
> Jim KC9HI
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Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng UV-5R MK4

[Jim Unroe]

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 10:34 PM ken smith  wrote:
>
> I have successfully been able to use Chirp to upload .csv files etc. All 
> communications between the software and radio seem to work. However, when 
> manually loading HAM repeater information, the upload info seems to not take 
> correctly. For example, I used the software to put in a 2m frequency, no 
> tone, “-“ offset at 0.60 and low transmit power. After the upload, the radio 
> shows the correct frequency and memory name but that’s it. The transmit power 
> shows Medium (which isn’t even an option in the software) and also shows both 
> “+” and “-“ on the radio screen. When keying the mike, it shows CT as if 
> there is a tone being transmitted. Something is not syncing right but I am 
> not getting any error messages. Any help here is appreciated.

It is hard to know what you may have done wrong without having access
to the CSV file or the actual "image" sent to the radio. I will do my
best to guess.

These UV-5R and UV-82 like radios do not use or store the shift
direction or offset in a memory channel. They aren't required. For
this reason, the SFT-D and OFFSET menus only function in VFO mode.

What is stored in a memory channel is an RX frequency and a TX
frequency. When the RX frequency and TX frequency are not the same (as
they would not be the same for a repeater, odd-split, cross-band or TX
disabled channel), there is a "+-" indication in the upper status
display area. This is to let the user know the RX frequency and TX
frequency of the selected channel are not the same. CHIRP lets users
enter the parameters for a repeater as a frequency, shift direction
and offset, but in the case of a UV-5R and similar radios, CHIRP
computes the TX frequency and stores that in the "image" to be sent to
the radio because that is what it requires.

Since your radio can display "MID" as a TXP option, you have a radio
with 3 TX power levels. You are most likely incorrectly selecting and
using the UV-5R model when downloading from your radio. The UV-5R
model selection is for a UV-5R like radio with 2 TX power levels. A
UV-5R image with the TXP set to HIGH uploaded to a radio with 3 TX
power levels would be correctly set to MID in a radio with 3 TX power
levels. To work with your radio correctly, you should be selecting
BF-F8HP, which is for UV-5R like radio models with 3 TX power levels,
to program your radio.

If there is a CT showing up in the left status display area when the
[PTT] button button is pressed and nothing showing when it is
released, you must Tone Mode set to Tone and the radio is picking up
the default 88.5 Hz tone. It should be set to "(None)" in CHIRP and in
the CSV file it would be {blank} (in other words there would be
nothing between the commas (",,").

One way to help understand how the fields of a CSV file should look
would be to program some working memories in the CHIRP spreadsheet
style memory editor and export them to a CSV file. An easy way to get
working channels would be to import some from RepeaterBook or load one
of the stock config files.

Jim KC9HI
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Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng UV-5R MK4

[Galen Thurber]

you'll need to upload .img files not csv
download from radio, save as img file
open in chirp csv file
select data banks / slots you want
copy paste over to img
then upload

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 11:33 PM ken smith  wrote:

> I have successfully been able to use Chirp to upload .csv files etc. All
> communications between the software and radio seem to work. However, when
> manually loading HAM repeater information, the upload info seems to not
> take correctly. For example, I used the software to put in a 2m frequency,
> no tone, “-“ offset at 0.60 and low transmit power. After the upload, the
> radio shows the correct frequency and memory name but that’s it. The
> transmit power shows Medium (which isn’t even an option in the software)
> and also shows both “+” and “-“ on the radio screen. When keying the mike,
> it shows CT as if there is a tone being transmitted. Something is not
> syncing right but I am not getting any error messages. Any help here is
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[chirp_users] Baofeng UV-5R MK4

[ken smith]

I have successfully been able to use Chirp to upload .csv files etc. All
communications between the software and radio seem to work. However, when
manually loading HAM repeater information, the upload info seems to not
take correctly. For example, I used the software to put in a 2m frequency,
no tone, “-“ offset at 0.60 and low transmit power. After the upload, the
radio shows the correct frequency and memory name but that’s it. The
transmit power shows Medium (which isn’t even an option in the software)
and also shows both “+” and “-“ on the radio screen. When keying the mike,
it shows CT as if there is a tone being transmitted. Something is not
syncing right but I am not getting any error messages. Any help here is
appreciated.
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