Re: Case mod feasible
Dear Breakable, The Minty power links at the bottom of http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Battery demonstrates that building a 2 AAA battery pack USB charger is feasible. As 1.2 * 4 is almost 5, building a 4-pack would probably be simpler. You will probably want to connect a 47.5 kOhms resistor between the ID pin and the GND pin in the USB connector to identify it as a FreeRunner compatible charger. -- Minh HA DUONG, Chargé de Recherche, CNRS CIRED, Centre International de Recherches sur l'Environnement et le Développement http://minh.haduong.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New rotate for OpenMoko
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:51:46 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (VNNGO) wrote: If you install it via the *.ipk package on the wiki page, you'll get an init script to launch the daemon. Then copy the latest binary version over the one installed by the package (it is much older). From there, all you have to do is to configure the daemon to launch at the chosen runlevel (can't remember the specific commands, sorry!). Citando Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: could someone provide some hints for how to set this to autostart, either system-wide or for a specific user? for a specific user, would i place a link to it in ~/.xinitrc? cheers I have just created .desktop file and run it if necessary. It wouldn't be bad to implement a function if it is already running, kill it, so one could end the application without having to have a second icon (i might as well just do this through a bash). Anyways, as the window manager was trying to indicate looong startup of rotate (even with StartupNotify=false ), i run it now like this and get an excellent result: Exec=/usr/bin/rotate Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ASU, 2008.8/.9] remove bottom section
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:59:20 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (François TOURDE) (FT) wrote: Le 14144ième jour après Epoch, Marco Trevisan écrivait: Vikas Saurabh wrote: I have removed the assassin installer so it doesn't show up any more (I do everything command line while ssh'd in) and I want to get rid of the bottom thing with the little pluses. Is this a possibility? Anyone know how to do this? I am not exactly sure how to do that. But the tango theme doesn't have it, so it should surely be possible to have some modification in .edj file for illume. Yes... It should be quite easy. Just decompile the edj file, comment the proper section (compare to the tango freerunner.edc file) and recompile it back. Not so simple, but it seems to be the right place... check for * or +, they are in the .edc In place, I've added the value Bar; in the Categories of qtopia-clock.desktop and qtopia-ringtones.desktop to get these two appli accessible from the bottom bar. Great, thank you :) I actually removed the Bar tag from assasin.desktop to get rid of Installer and replaced it with something else. -- Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Concept arts. Interface - how I would like it to see.
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:48:07 -0700 Kelvie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] (KW) wrote: On September 23, 2008 15:16:26 wp wrote: http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept1.png These look really nice :) One problem I see, though, it seems that without a stylus, the links (and just hyperlinks in general) are _really_ hard to press. I think we should be optimizing for finger-based usability instead. What you say makes sense. Just think about the REMOVE link in Shelve. 80% impossible without a stylus. But as far as the REMOVE link stays as it is and one has a stylus in his hand already, than the small links are actually OK. So the whole concept has to go either one direction or another. -- Petr Vaněk http://biodynamika.cz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 19:21, David Samblas any news about the real openess of android? first phone has just been announced to be released, and then the code should be open sourced : http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/09/announcing-android-10-sdk-release-1.html So what's next for us? Well, we'll keep working on the SDK, as I said. But we're also working hard with our partners in the Open Handset Alliance on the open-source release, with the aim of making the code available in the fourth quarter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: unable to read from Sandisk 8Gb SD
Andy Green wrote: It used to be that our kernel packages followed our stable kernel git daily. But the hash on that one tells it is stuck at Aug 23 patchlevel... Yet another reason why the openmoko autobuilder configuration should be documented and published somewhere. As an example, the person in charge of the openmoko autobuilder should publish the same information as can be found on http://downloads.freesmartphone.org and make the web server show the *actual* conf files used, like in http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/conf/ ... -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: unable to read from Sandisk 8Gb SD
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 08:59, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clearly that doesn't have the patch. This from today doesn't have it either. http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02/kernel-image-2.6.24_2.6.24+gitr105+a1e97c611253511ffc2d8c45e3e6d6894fa03fa3-r2_om-gta02.opk It used to be that our kernel packages followed our stable kernel git daily. But the hash on that one tells it is stuck at Aug 23 patchlevel... what about this one (/unstable) ? directory date on http repository is 15 Sep only, so should not be the latest either.. http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/om-gta02/kernel-image-2.6.24_2.6.24+gitr75974+1b6ea684646a9a793543ca54c8d937d5fa25cc3f-r2_om-gta02.opk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: python-pyqt -- building against Qtopia in 2008.8
Kelvie Wong wrote: Hello Erin, On Thursday, September 18, 2008 03:50:36 Erin Yueh wrote: also, i will discuss with Holger to see whether we can change Qt lib to '/usr/lib', instead of '/opt/Qtopia/lib'. That's great; though it doesn't solve the problem of actually building against Qtopia using OE -- it will have to go in the staging area for that to happen (and perhaps there needs to be a bbclass for it?) There are also issues with QMessageBox's using the X11 version of Qt, do you see this as well? I can't seem to get a modal QMessageBox to show up (via the static functions similar to QMessageBox::warning()) Regards, Hi Kelvie, After discussed with few co-workers, we think that we should separate Qtopia Qt lib and Qt4 Qt lib and let them store at different places. When we would run qt applications, we can use LD_LIBRARY_PATH to set qt lib. Currently, I use 'env' before running my AP. About QMessageBox, I can run it correctly before I re-installing all qt related packages. But now, it wont show up and crash my AP. Now, I only install libQtCore, libQtGui, libQtNetwork, libQtWebKit, python-sip and python-pyqt. I guess I need to install more related Qt4 lib packages. Regards, Erin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed
it would be nice, to have more control over gps. to see the status, satellites, do a warm / cold restart, time to first fix, like in the gps-ui for openmoko distribution. thats missing in debian and fso :( but thanks for this great program, can't wait to test it. best regards vale Michele Renda wrote: Hire wrote: WOW very nice :D Do you can use a distro like damn small linux, installa a minimal xfce with this interface and put into the NAND instead Microsd? ehh... I think that to do this the distro that you use must to be ported to armel4 platform. Until now only debian I know is officially supported to this architecture. I am using DEBIAN (installed with the procedure present in this ML), disabling Zhone autostart, and launching xfce-panel. I seem to be good enought. Best regards Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-debian--Sephora-0.1---Suggestions-needed-tp1113729p1114691.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed
vale wrote: it would be nice, to have more control over gps. to see the status, satellites, do a warm / cold restart, time to first fix, like in the gps-ui for openmoko distribution. thats missing in debian and fso :( Perfect, I am collecting ideas: [GPS] Fix status Time to fist fix Warm / Cold restart and... Satellite time button to set the internal clock with satellite time [Phone] button to set the internal clock with time token by internet Thank you for your ideas, would like to see something else? :) Michele Renda but thanks for this great program, can't wait to test it. best regards vale ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: unable to read from Sandisk 8Gb SD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 08:59, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Clearly that doesn't have the patch. | | This from today doesn't have it either. | | http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02/kernel-image-2.6.24_2.6.24+gitr105+a1e97c611253511ffc2d8c45e3e6d6894fa03fa3-r2_om-gta02.opk | | It used to be that our kernel packages followed our stable kernel git daily. | | But the hash on that one tells it is stuck at Aug 23 patchlevel... | | what about this one (/unstable) ? directory date on http repository | is 15 Sep only, so should not be the latest either.. | http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/om-gta02/kernel-image-2.6.24_2.6.24+gitr75974+1b6ea684646a9a793543ca54c8d937d5fa25cc3f-r2_om-gta02.opk It's a bit later but still nearly two weeks and several patches out of date. Somebody made a decision that we don't make up to date packages any more of our stable kernel, they are done but go in a special place (not testing or unstable?), or this is just a messup? If it's a decision, it needs rethinking. - -Andy BTW why is this -devel list so eerily quiet lately? It seems like openmoko still is in Open software development business but just not here? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjZ7ckACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqEwgCeNOkrX613+Gm0veukCaFtGpkO xF4AnAtqoVKLKBLVoB2YfMEN1nwtjxv5 =LURu -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: unable to read from Sandisk 8Gb SD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy Green wrote: | It used to be that our kernel packages followed our stable kernel git daily. | | But the hash on that one tells it is stuck at Aug 23 patchlevel... | | Yet another reason why the openmoko autobuilder configuration should be | documented and published somewhere. | | As an example, the person in charge of the openmoko autobuilder should | publish the same information as can be found on | http://downloads.freesmartphone.org and make the web server show the | *actual* conf files used, like in | http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/conf/ ... Yes, they (whoever they are) have packages from 16th September, it doesn't look like we broke the build since everywhere is different aged package. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjZ7iMACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqOTwCdG0xiBRnLdPoxiLUJrIJv/kbD 03EAni3ZnB9MgYzqpHtjsHgtqjy0SmLg =2Pn6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Duke Nukem 3D on Openmoko Neo
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Alasal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've put it into a package, so it is easy to install/remove. see http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/09/getting-duke-nukem-3d-on-your-neo.html Well done, thank you!! I installed it and was able to start it in the vertical screen mode so the controls and buttons didn't work properly. I think this had something to do with my previous trials to install it. But anyway I was able to see movements there so I think I'm almost there. I was running it without sounds. I removed some of my own scripts and tried reinstalling your package. I have duke3d in /usr/bin but when I run it I get: -sh: ./duke3d: not found I had a similar problem earlier and I was able to fix it by removing the first line, the one with #:/usr/bash or similar. I have no idea where this comes from but removing it makes it work and I'm able to play. COOL, THANK YOU!! This is a nice game to demonstrate the capabilities to other people :) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] Booting from SD, unable to open an initial console
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Did you use -p in your unpack? I forgot it once and had similar issues. You can get this excitement if your SD card was mounted with nodev at unpack as well, usually that is complaining about no /dev/pts/* or other valid /dev bits needed. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjZ73EACgkQOjLpvpq7dMrysQCfcp6TILazhPJLFmj+/cCfJWds QpAAn1wQuJSe+cIaEv/wl6GjQjqvUeJ3 =vaP5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed
Mmh, very nice work indeed! I could think of having different icons for active/inactive Wifi, BT, Chargins etc so you can skip going into that section explicitely for only seeing the status and not the details. /peter GTalk: neubauer.peter Skype peter.neubauer ICQ 18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software. http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I am realizing a setting manager for Freerunner. It is focused to run under Debian + XFCE. It use PyGtk libraries and Fso framework. Please tell to me what would you like to be present in this tool (and how to do it :) Here you can find some screenshots and the deb package to install it on your freerunner: http://rubino.dyndns.org/ Best regards Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed
yeah more ideas :D - Power: suspend, shutdown, reboot - Screen: brightness, touchscreen on/off, rotate - Sound: volume / mute - LED control - Accelereometers: read out data - Network: show connections (ifconfig) greetings bubbas Michele Renda wrote: vale wrote: it would be nice, to have more control over gps. to see the status, satellites, do a warm / cold restart, time to first fix, like in the gps-ui for openmoko distribution. thats missing in debian and fso :( Perfect, I am collecting ideas: [GPS] Fix status Time to fist fix Warm / Cold restart and... Satellite time button to set the internal clock with satellite time [Phone] button to set the internal clock with time token by internet Thank you for your ideas, would like to see something else? :) Michele Renda but thanks for this great program, can't wait to test it. best regards vale ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-debian--Sephora-0.1---Suggestions-needed-tp1113729p1114738.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Java Application output and working directory on 2008.8?
Hi Folks, does anyone know where the standard output from a Java application that I start via the visual desktop icon ends up? The app is starting from the terminal but not from the Desktop, so I would like to see what's going on ... /peter GTalk: neubauer.peter Skype peter.neubauer ICQ 18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software. http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: unable to read from Sandisk 8Gb SD
Andy Green wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy Green wrote: | It used to be that our kernel packages followed our stable kernel git daily. | | But the hash on that one tells it is stuck at Aug 23 patchlevel... | | Yet another reason why the openmoko autobuilder configuration should be | documented and published somewhere. | | As an example, the person in charge of the openmoko autobuilder should | publish the same information as can be found on | http://downloads.freesmartphone.org and make the web server show the | *actual* conf files used, like in | http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/conf/ ... Yes, they (whoever they are) have packages from 16th September, it doesn't look like we broke the build since everywhere is different aged package. The fso-testing distro builds the version of the linux-openmoko kernel denotes as latest stable by the conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc file, which currently in OE git (not OM git) on the org.openembedded.dev branch says: SRCREV_pn-linux-openmoko ?= ca19d156400f817960efe0d14680324b2ea34171 In OM git, that same file (in the org.openmoko.dev branch) says: SRCREV_pn-linux-openmoko ?= a1e97c611253511ffc2d8c45e3e6d6894fa03fa3 which surprise surprise matches the ipk in http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02/ I have no idea what determines which version is built for the feeds at http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/om-gta02/ since there is no published build configuration on downloads.openmoko.org anywhere to be found. It's up the the person in charge of testing the linux-openmoko bitbake recipe to determine what the latest stable version in the feeds should be by updating that sane-srcrevs.inc file (after booting an image using that kernel of course). -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java Application output and working directory on 2008.8?
you have to look into the corresponding .desktop file in /usr/share/applications i think .. there is a line exec= which contains the command used to start the application. it should look like the command you use from the terminal Peter Neubauer wrote: Hi Folks, does anyone know where the standard output from a Java application that I start via the visual desktop icon ends up? The app is starting from the terminal but not from the Desktop, so I would like to see what's going on ... /peter GTalk: neubauer.peter Skype peter.neubauer ICQ 18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software. http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Java-Application-output-and-working-directory-on-2008.8--tp1114743p1114771.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.9 Basic questions
On 9/21/08 Tom Yates wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Hire wrote: Instead I find it very usable and better stability. The only thing that I find totally useless is the OM-Locations... we need a very usable gps sotfware like navit ( with complete maps as navteq o telealtas and a routes engine ) so why don't port it onto Openmoko and use it instead of Om-Locations? i don't think it offers a routing engine, but have you tried tangoGPS? it does everything else you want, given the excellent hooks to openstreetmap.org. i am told that others are working on general-purpose routing engines using PSM data, but i can't find confirmation. anyway, having a map's the main thing for me. All The point of Locations is not to become a routing engine. It's reverse routing if you will. I'm in a place I want to remember, so I tag that location. And share it friends. Or friends want to share a location with me. So they send me a tag that appears on my map. That's it. Very very simple. You can read more about it here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8_Locations Hope that helps clarify things. -Sean ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] Booting from SD, unable to open an initial console
2008/9/24 William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Did you use -p in your unpack? I forgot it once and had similar issues. No, I didn't - because the Wiki (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD#Prepare_the_SD_card) doesn't say that. I'll update it. Thanks! Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] Booting from SD, unable to open an initial console
2008/9/24 Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You can get this excitement if your SD card was mounted with nodev at unpack as well, usually that is complaining about no /dev/pts/* or other valid /dev bits needed. Thanks. I checked that at the time, though (because the Wiki covers it), and it didn't have nodev. I'll try Bill's -p, and report back. (Another factor that may be relevant is that I did the unpacking on the FR, from within Qtopia - which means that I was using the Busybox implementation of tar. Perhaps I also need to make sure that I'm using a proper tar?) Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM 2008.9 update?
Yes we will release one in short, and also we are preparing infrastructure to be able to admit and manage colaborations, more details on release readme. Thank to all for you interest El mar, 23-09-2008 a las 21:54 -0400, Tomas Riveros Schober escribió: i read a couple messages ago that its being worked on. so, being patient or getting involved are the only 2 options for now... regards Tom Glen Ogilvie escribió: Hi, I enjoyed using FDOM, with the already configured stuff it was nice and easy to get things working. Is the going to be an update that is based on om2008.9 release? Regards Glen Ogilvie ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: unable to read from Sandisk 8Gb SD
That may be, but despite that I need a daily package for kernel I can point people to. Actually blocking current stable kernel from users by not packaging it, which seems to be the case, is completely backwards. That may be the case, and you defintely should be able to point experienced alpha testers to such isolated packages for testing, but you don't want inexperienced Joe Random User permanently setting their opkg feeds to a such a directory, so you don't really want it as part of the official feeds ... -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats the name of the app FDOM uses to do display switching ?
tapuntap.py it's in /usr/bin it's a simply script using xrandr El mié, 24-09-2008 a las 17:09 +0800, William Kenworthy escribió: Whats the name of the app FDOM uses to do display switching ? (portrait/landscape) BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.X] Flashing the kernel live
I was just wondering, is there a way to flash the kernel live (i.e. with the software still running)? Is the boot partition (it's on the NAND Flash somewhere) something I can just mount and override a file? Or do I have to use dd? Or is there some trickery I can do with dfu-util? -- Kelvie Wong ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Whats the name of the app FDOM uses to do display switching ?
Thanks, BillK On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 11:30 +0200, David Samblas wrote: tapuntap.py it's in /usr/bin it's a simply script using xrandr El mié, 24-09-2008 a las 17:09 +0800, William Kenworthy escribió: Whats the name of the app FDOM uses to do display switching ? (portrait/landscape) BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2008.9] illume FreeBSD 7.0
Hello, Since I have now updated to Om2008.9 I want to programm a bit the 'desktop' in my FreeRunner; the Wiki explains file how to install 'illume' in Ubuntu or other Linuxes; I've tried to port 'enlightenment' to my FreeBSD latop but the pieces it brings to the system or to old for compiling 'illume'; has anymody setup an 'illume' environment in FreeBSD successfull? If not I have to setup a VM for Ubuntu :-( thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian gps] How to check gps
On Wednesday 24 September 2008, Dima Kogan wrote: Can you please elaborate? Do any of the actions you mentioned actually BREAK fso-gpsd? The reason for having a gps daemon in the first place is to provide shared access to a resource that isn't directly sharable. Having 2 daemons running at the same time, or manually poking the gps while the daemon is running, is asking for trouble and will more than likely cause problems, but you might get lucky. So as a general rule if you want to mess with the gps manually then stop the daemon first. Only run one daemon at a time. Note that fso-gpsd is a compatibility layer to add gpsd output to ogpsd, not a separate daemon. On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:54:32 +0200 Sascha Wessel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 05:24:16PM -0700, Dima Kogan wrote: To check the raw data coming out of the device, do cat /dev/ttySAC1 | grep GGA This should give you a line of data every second or so. Once a fix has been established, these lines contain latitude,longitude values in plain ASCII. The gpsd daemon (whether true gpsd or fso-gpsd) should make this data available on port 2947. Check this with nc 127.0.0.1 2947 | grep GGA If the daemon works, you should get the same data here, as above. Good luck. Exactly this is the most common problem. Please... * do NOT echo 1 neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron * do NOT read from /dev/ttySAC1 * do NOT write to /dev/ttySAC1 * do NOT run the original gpsd Then it should just work. Greetings, Sascha ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java Application output and working directory on 2008.8?
Hi, On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:40 AM, vale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: put in your starterscript: cd /path/to/your/workingdir before you call the applet ... and also export DISPLAY=:0 has your applet graphical output? because you say output to console ... ? Yes, it is a Swing app, but even doing debug output via java.logging ... /peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner a month after
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Ajay Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Also, after setting up QEMU and following the MakeFile instructions for Ubuntu i got the Qtopia build running. With 4 icons and on clicking them nothing happens. Plus I also see No Network I think you are using an old official image as this is an old looking gui. Try to build your image and flash qemu with that. About your project it's a nice challenge. Which gui tookit are you going to use? I'm waiting always for answers, in the meaning i'm doing some experiments i want to report: 1) i bitbaked qt4-x11-free in order to have qt library in the staging area of the asu oe tree, fixed my old myappliaction.bb, compiled my application and moved to freerunner, when i launched it i got unknown zymbol :_ZXXX:QTableModel (or similiar). So as i suspected before qt4-x11-free is incompatible with qtopia-phone-x11 and should be cleaned from the forked oe tree (if not, again why fork?), the second should provide staging files, and a new bb class should be proviede (i'll open an issue track for this). 2) i tryed to build fso-image with the right makefile for two day, every time i run make it updates repository with new stuff, so it's fail on something different every time, for exemple desktop-file-utils not finding glib-2.0-native, or fetch errors on kernel git and so on. I do not know if the buildhost builds from scratch or not, as some errors may come out only from scratch (it happened to me on python-etk-git on the asu tree, now it's fixed). 3) now i removed rm_work from my local.conf in asu tree and i'm rebitbaking qtopia-phone-x11, in order to try to compile my application manually taking qtopiamake, include, qmake, libraries and so on from the work dir! 4) i'm going to flash my phone with fso, as i like it uses directly the oetree (there are a lot more and bleeding edge package) 5) i'm setupping oe.stable and oe.dev trees with angstrom as distro, to try to produce a package for fso, as i was not able yet to resolv step 2 and build qt4-x11-free I hope in the hours/days i will give you a feedback on all these experiments! the nightmare continues :) Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] getting zhone sid ringtones working
Angus Ainslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Angus Ainslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 12:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using debian and zhone. sid ringtones doesnt work, only the buzzer works. I installed sidplay2, and oss-compat, and sidplay2 works from the command line. zhone cant find it though. Any hints? -- use the gstream sid plugin Ok, I tried: apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly apt-get install python-gst0.10 this was not sufficient. Any more hints? apt-cache search gstreamer sid The problem persisted, but I managed to solve it like this: cd / ln -s /usr/share I think this is some kind of packaging problem in Debian of fso-frameworkd. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Joakim Verona ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Concept arts. Interface - how I would like it to see.
I think this concept looks very good and it shows you have thought about it thoroughly. Starting from top to bottom, The topmost area with signal levels and should be there all the time but as small as possible because they steal screen estate. The running apps area is the best way i can imagine to show what apps are running and quickly and painlessly switch between them. Its pure genius and i cant really think of a better way to do it. Having the applications menu sliding in from the left should work pretty well and allows it to use almost all of the screen to show applications. I think the applications menu should split one or two times in a tree structure to allow for big icons on phones with many applications installed. That way you can easily start them without a stylus. Perhaps one should put an icon for closing currently running application here too. Speed dial is nice and the big icons makes using phone functions without a pen easy. Overall i would really love a phone that looked like this. The biggest gripe i have with mobiles right now is an easy way to see what applications are running, switching between them and closing a running application. //danielh 2008/9/24 wp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear Community, As first, I want to say thank you for all your great job, by which I can do what I do now. Om2008.* is, (in my opinion!), not very comfortable in use (Qtopia goes way better, but it is still not what I want). I mean - I know that versions we have today are not supposed to look good, that everything can get changed and the biggest prioritaire is to bring it all work flawlessly. I know and I'm happy with it and I can't stand waiting for everything that lay ahead ;) While having some free time, I decided to create some concept arts of interface. They are created from what we can have today in Qtopia and Om, but I have added some features and polished them a little. So.. here you go: Main idea: http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=structure.png And concept arts. http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept1.png http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept2.png http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept3.png What is your opinion? Say what you like, and what you don't? Make your own pics, share it with us. Free the imagination! WP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GPS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I found a MMCX GPS antenna at ebay and want to know your statements about it: http://cgi.ebay.de/EXTERNE-AKTIVE-GPS-ANTENNE-MMCX-NAVIGATION-5M-KABEL_W0QQitemZ350100709576QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item350100709576_trkparms=72%3A823%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 -- mfg/br, christian Flurstraße 14 29640 Schneverdingen Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefon: +49 5193 97 14 95 Mobile: +49 171 357 59 57 http://wesselch.homelinux.org signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian gps] How to check gps
Am Dienstag, den 23.09.2008, 22:55 -0600 schrieb -stacy: First, lets look at the players in this mess... gpsd - this is our good old friend from http://gpsd.berlios.de/ True gpsd someone called it. ogpsd - this is a subsystem of FSO's frameworkd. It replaces gpsd it implements the Gypsy API communicating with applications via dbus fso-gpsd - is a compatibility shim to translate Gypsy messages for applications that expect gpsd tangogps - a map/gps application tangogps-fso - a version of tangogps that has been modified to understand Gypsy messages sarcasm I don't know how you could find this confusing. /sarcasm That is why I said something is talking to your GPS, if you have a stock FSO then you have ogpsd talking to the gps and tangogps (the FSO version) and Zhone are getting their data via Gypsy. You don't need gpsd or fso-gpsd in this situation. Thanx for the detail explaination, but I am still a little confused. After installation of Debian I followed the tangogps guide from OM wiki. I installed fso-gps and tangogps, both with apt-get install fso-gps tangogps and it doesn't work together. Neither 'location' nor 'tango'. After a selfmade confusion with my servers iptables I installed also netutils-ping and dnsutils. Thats all. So, please give me a hint what to de-install and which combination to install and how to configured it. Maybe also the startup with zhone gui, currently I need to start tangogps by xterm. BTW, I checked my process list and couldn't find any other gpsd except fso-gpsd: debian-gta02:~# ps -ef|grep gps root 1524 1 0 11:32 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/fso-gpsd -P /var/run/fso-gpsd.pid The reboot was several hours before... -- mfg/br, christian Flurstraße 14 29640 Schneverdingen Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefon: +49 5193 97 14 95 Mobile: +49 171 357 59 57 http://wesselch.homelinux.org signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ALSA] wiki RFC
Le 14145ième jour après Epoch, vasco nevoa écrivait: Hi. To anyone who actually knows the dark magic of ALSA state files and the way they are actually being used in the Freerunner, please go read the wiki page and let me know if it has anything wrong, and if it should have anything else. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem I put some small changes on the page, but I've no time yet to detail more. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian fails to boot after some reboots
There is a problem with suspending causing the partition table to be corrupted on the SD card. There are some workarounds that seem to prevent this from happening, but I don't know whether they apply to Qtopia. See http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1802 Yes this applies to all distributions. Once distributions will ship a kernel with this patch below, it should no longer be necessary to create the suspend and resume scripts anymore.. http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=commit;h=ca19d156400f817960efe0d14680324b2ea34171 If you build your own image using MokoMakeFile you can define a more recent revision for linux-openmoko in conf/distro/include/sane-srcrevs.inc, otherwise you'll have to wait until OM bumps the rev on linux-openmoko for you. Sander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
inotify-tools on openmoko
hi, Do openmoko has support for inotify-tools. (more information on inotify tools on http://inotify-tools.sourceforge.net/) if not, how can I port inotify-tools to openmoko. TIA Jitender Singh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
CAD conversion and editing
Hi, Anybody got any success for editing CAD files for the phone case? Basically I am trying to get them open in brlcad (which seems to be the best free CAD software ever), without any success yet. I had some success in VariCad demo (proprietary) where parts of the design are imported using STEP format, but it does not seem good enough, as I see about 50% of the shapes usually. IGES on the other hand seems like a total dissaster. The only solution I currently see is buying or pirating the Pro/ENGINEER to edit or convert them to brlcad .g format using the Pro/E to BRLCAD converter plugin for Pro/ENGINEER from the brlcad suite. Buying or pirating for this task is not the option I like. Anybody that has a Pro/ENGINEER license can assist with that? There is a nice description how to do it in http://brlcad.org/w/images/6/66/Converting_Geometry.pdf in section 4.9 page 27 of pdf. After this is done properly, maybe the BRLCAD to DXF converter can be used to improve accessibility of design files for those that have AutoCad. If this issue wont be resolved I don't believe a community effort to build on the openness of the device will ever succeed. Regards, Ignas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Java Application output and working directory on 2008.8?
On Wednesday 24 September 2008, Peter Neubauer wrote: Yes, it is a Swing app, but even doing debug output via java.logging Pu something like this in your startup script: pwd /home/root/working_dir.txt and launch your application from the launcher. The working_dir.txt file should then contain your WD. Cheers, Florian -- DI Florian Hackenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hackenberger.at ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone
Even if the code is open, will the hardware be? The hardware could easily check if the software has been changed and then cut power. Hopefully there will at least be some interesting bits to borrow. On 9/24/08, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 19:21, David Samblas any news about the real openess of android? first phone has just been announced to be released, and then the code should be open sourced : http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/09/announcing-android-10-sdk-release-1.html So what's next for us? Well, we'll keep working on the SDK, as I said. But we're also working hard with our partners in the Open Handset Alliance on the open-source release, with the aim of making the code available in the fourth quarter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Steven Kurylo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FR as a USB-Key
Hi, is it possible to make the FreeRunner act like a regular media storage device ? The inherent question is how to specify which file or partition would be mapped to this simulated device. Although, I'm thinking about simulating plugin out and plugin in. Would switching the usb_mode back and forth from device and host be a reliable solution? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 15:46, Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if the code is open, will the hardware be? The hardware could easily check if the software has been changed and then cut power. What is interesting is that the code is open so that you can port it a more open hardware (Neo !) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Concept arts. Interface - how I would like it to see.
Really cool, somthing like that we need at 2008.8, i think.. Am Mittwoch, den 24.09.2008, 00:16 +0200 schrieb wp: Dear Community, As first, I want to say thank you for all your great job, by which I can do what I do now. Om2008.* is, (in my opinion!), not very comfortable in use (Qtopia goes way better, but it is still not what I want). I mean - I know that versions we have today are not supposed to look good, that everything can get changed and the biggest prioritaire is to bring it all work flawlessly. I know and I'm happy with it and I can't stand waiting for everything that lay ahead ;) While having some free time, I decided to create some concept arts of interface. They are created from what we can have today in Qtopia and Om, but I have added some features and polished them a little. So.. here you go: Main idea: http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=structure.png And concept arts. http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept1.png http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept2.png http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept3.png What is your opinion? Say what you like, and what you don't? Make your own pics, share it with us. Free the imagination! WP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD conversion and editing
Please see inline and below... On Wednesday 24 September 2008 08:59:12 am Breakable wrote: Hi, Anybody got any success for editing CAD files for the phone case? Basically I am trying to get them open in brlcad (which seems to be the best free CAD software ever), without any success yet. I had some success in VariCad demo (proprietary) where parts of the design are imported using STEP format, but it does not seem good enough, as I see about 50% of the shapes usually. IGES on the other hand seems like a total dissaster. The IGES files I created seemed to work in Pro/E and CATIA V5. Can you figure out if the files are corrupted or if it is a non-working import filter in brlcad that does not work? Have you tried opening a single file and not the complete assembly? The only solution I currently see is buying or pirating the Pro/ENGINEER to edit or convert them to brlcad .g format using the Pro/E to BRLCAD converter plugin for Pro/ENGINEER from the brlcad suite. Buying or pirating for this task is not the option I like. Anybody that has a Pro/ENGINEER license can assist with that? There is a nice description how to do it in http://brlcad.org/w/images/6/66/Converting_Geometry.pdf in section 4.9 page 27 of pdf. I have access to a Pro/E licencense and can look into that. However, it won't happen till the weekend... After this is done properly, maybe the BRLCAD to DXF converter can be used to improve accessibility of design files for those that have AutoCad. DXF is essentially a 2D format. Since there is no conversion from 3D to 2D that does not lose information, a usefull conversion heavily depends on the need of the user of those 2D DXF files. IF the list could agree on a limited number of planes/slices through the 3D model I might be willing to put the time into creating them. If this issue wont be resolved I don't believe a community effort to build on the openness of the device will ever succeed. Regards, Ignas As said above, I will look into this brlcad over the weekend and look into the conversion of the files into the appropriate format. However, I can't promise anything... (BTW, I have never heard of brlcad, but I also hardly use anything else than CATIA these days...) Regards, Claus -- Claus Christmann Graduate Research Assistant Georgia Institute of Technology 270 Ferst Drive Atlanta, GA 30332-0150, USA http://uav.ae.gatech.edu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR as a USB-Key
Hi, is it possible to make the FreeRunner act like a regular media storage device ? The inherent question is how to specify which file or partition would be mapped to this simulated device. I thought that no, but it seems the opposite: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Using_the_Neo_as_a_Mass_storage_device (there you find also how to configure the partition. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: unable to read from Sandisk 8Gb SD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | That may be, but despite that I need a daily package for kernel I | can point people to. Actually blocking current stable kernel from | users by not packaging it, which seems to be the case, is | completely backwards. | | That may be the case, and you defintely should be able to point | experienced alpha testers to such isolated packages for testing, but | you don't want inexperienced Joe Random User permanently setting | their opkg feeds to a such a directory, so you don't really want it | as part of the official feeds ... -- Rod Uh... yes in fact I do want it as part of an official feed. Someone has taken time to make a stable / testing / and even unstable branches of stuff, and you think it is right that our stable kernel git HEAD is so radioactive it doesn't even belong in testing or unstable? This is certainly something we need, the only question is where to put it so people who want to update to it can routinely get it. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjaS98ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqKzwCgkjtjR4leS67vnVELt4iDCZGk GwgAn0RAddxfaxzJffViDhX2iPPK+Ssn =Ue37 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian gps] How to check gps
On Wednesday 24 September 2008, Christian Weßel wrote: Am Dienstag, den 23.09.2008, 22:55 -0600 schrieb -stacy: First, lets look at the players in this mess... gpsd - this is our good old friend from http://gpsd.berlios.de/ True gpsd someone called it. ogpsd - this is a subsystem of FSO's frameworkd. It replaces gpsd it implements the Gypsy API communicating with applications via dbus fso-gpsd - is a compatibility shim to translate Gypsy messages for applications that expect gpsd tangogps - a map/gps application tangogps-fso - a version of tangogps that has been modified to understand Gypsy messages sarcasm I don't know how you could find this confusing. /sarcasm That is why I said something is talking to your GPS, if you have a stock FSO then you have ogpsd talking to the gps and tangogps (the FSO version) and Zhone are getting their data via Gypsy. You don't need gpsd or fso-gpsd in this situation. Thanx for the detail explaination, but I am still a little confused. After installation of Debian I followed the tangogps guide from OM wiki. I installed fso-gps and tangogps, both with apt-get install fso-gps tangogps and it doesn't work together. Neither 'location' nor 'tango'. After a selfmade confusion with my servers iptables I installed also netutils-ping and dnsutils. Thats all. So, please give me a hint what to de-install and which combination to install and how to configured it. Maybe also the startup with zhone gui, currently I need to start tangogps by xterm. BTW, I checked my process list and couldn't find any other gpsd except fso-gpsd: debian-gta02:~# ps -ef|grep gps root 1524 1 0 11:32 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/fso-gpsd -P /var/run/fso-gpsd.pid The reboot was several hours before... I think you need ogpsd running too. ogpsd talks to the gps and outputs data in gypsy format over dbus. fso-gpsd reads gypsy format data from dbus and outputs gpsd format data for apps needing to use gpsd. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR as a USB-Key
Thanks, it seems pretty strait forward. I will try this. 2008/9/24 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, is it possible to make the FreeRunner act like a regular media storage device ? The inherent question is how to specify which file or partition would be mapped to this simulated device. I thought that no, but it seems the opposite: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Using_the_Neo_as_a_Mass_storage_device (there you find also how to configure the partition. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian gps] How to check gps
Ok, if I understand in right: HW SW SW SW gps - ogpsd - fso-gpsd - tangogps - location Right? Ok, and in which package I can find ogpsd? I search for 'ogpsd' and got no pos result. I just want to have a gps function, christian Am Mittwoch, den 24.09.2008, 15:22 +0100 schrieb Al Johnson: On Wednesday 24 September 2008, Christian Weßel wrote: Am Dienstag, den 23.09.2008, 22:55 -0600 schrieb -stacy: First, lets look at the players in this mess... gpsd - this is our good old friend from http://gpsd.berlios.de/ True gpsd someone called it. ogpsd - this is a subsystem of FSO's frameworkd. It replaces gpsd it implements the Gypsy API communicating with applications via dbus fso-gpsd - is a compatibility shim to translate Gypsy messages for applications that expect gpsd tangogps - a map/gps application tangogps-fso - a version of tangogps that has been modified to understand Gypsy messages sarcasm I don't know how you could find this confusing. /sarcasm That is why I said something is talking to your GPS, if you have a stock FSO then you have ogpsd talking to the gps and tangogps (the FSO version) and Zhone are getting their data via Gypsy. You don't need gpsd or fso-gpsd in this situation. Thanx for the detail explaination, but I am still a little confused. After installation of Debian I followed the tangogps guide from OM wiki. I installed fso-gps and tangogps, both with apt-get install fso-gps tangogps and it doesn't work together. Neither 'location' nor 'tango'. After a selfmade confusion with my servers iptables I installed also netutils-ping and dnsutils. Thats all. So, please give me a hint what to de-install and which combination to install and how to configured it. Maybe also the startup with zhone gui, currently I need to start tangogps by xterm. BTW, I checked my process list and couldn't find any other gpsd except fso-gpsd: debian-gta02:~# ps -ef|grep gps root 1524 1 0 11:32 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/fso-gpsd -P /var/run/fso-gpsd.pid The reboot was several hours before... I think you need ogpsd running too. ogpsd talks to the gps and outputs data in gypsy format over dbus. fso-gpsd reads gypsy format data from dbus and outputs gpsd format data for apps needing to use gpsd. ... -- mfg/br, christian weßel Flurstraße 14 29640 Schneverdingen Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefon: +49 5193 97 14 95 Mobile: +49 171 357 59 57 http://wesselch.homelinux.org signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian fails to boot after some reboots
Sander van Grieken [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are some workarounds that seem to prevent this from happening, but I don't know whether they apply to Qtopia. See http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1802 Yes this applies to all distributions. Thanks to you both. I will give it a try immediately. Greetings Sven pgpAFwZ84NXKg.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I use an antenna I bought off ebay that looks exactly like that. It works great. Reduces TTFF to around 15 secs and the magnet stays on my car fine even at high speeds. (See http://www.bufferunderflow.com/?entry=7 ) -Dan On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 08:00 -0400, Christian Weßel wrote: I found a MMCX GPS antenna at ebay and want to know your statements about it: http://cgi.ebay.de/EXTERNE-AKTIVE-GPS-ANTENNE-MMCX-NAVIGATION-5M-KABEL_W0QQitemZ350100709576QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item350100709576_trkparms=72%3A823%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: inotify-tools on openmoko
On Wednesday 24 September 2008, jitendersingh wrote: hi, Do openmoko has support for inotify-tools. (more information on inotify tools on http://inotify-tools.sourceforge.net/) if not, how can I port inotify-tools to openmoko. OpenEmbedded has inotify-tools 3.12 so there is a fair chance it will build and run on openmoko. Under mokomakefile it would be: make build-package-inotify-tools ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD conversion and editing
Breakable wrote: Hi, Anybody got any success for editing CAD files for the phone case? Basically I am trying to get them open in brlcad (which seems to be the best free CAD software ever), without any success yet. Well... someone seems to have been successful nine days ago!? http://brlcad.org/gallery/s/screenshots/iges-openmoko-conversion.png.html Or is there something I don't get about that screenshot? Regards, Andreas I had some success in VariCad demo (proprietary) where parts of the design are imported using STEP format, but it does not seem good enough, as I see about 50% of the shapes usually. IGES on the other hand seems like a total dissaster. The only solution I currently see is buying or pirating the Pro/ENGINEER to edit or convert them to brlcad .g format using the Pro/E to BRLCAD converter plugin for Pro/ENGINEER from the brlcad suite. Buying or pirating for this task is not the option I like. Anybody that has a Pro/ENGINEER license can assist with that? There is a nice description how to do it in http://brlcad.org/w/images/6/66/Converting_Geometry.pdf in section 4.9 page 27 of pdf. After this is done properly, maybe the BRLCAD to DXF converter can be used to improve accessibility of design files for those that have AutoCad. If this issue wont be resolved I don't believe a community effort to build on the openness of the device will ever succeed. Regards, Ignas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian gps] How to check gps
On Wednesday 24 September 2008, Christian Weßel wrote: Ok, if I understand in right: HW SW SW SW gps - ogpsd - fso-gpsd - tangogps - location Right? That's my understanding, yes. Ok, and in which package I can find ogpsd? I search for 'ogpsd' and got no pos result. I can't say - haven't tried debian yet as I can't get my SD to behave reliably as rootfs. I just want to have a gps function, christian Am Mittwoch, den 24.09.2008, 15:22 +0100 schrieb Al Johnson: On Wednesday 24 September 2008, Christian Weßel wrote: Am Dienstag, den 23.09.2008, 22:55 -0600 schrieb -stacy: First, lets look at the players in this mess... gpsd - this is our good old friend from http://gpsd.berlios.de/ True gpsd someone called it. ogpsd - this is a subsystem of FSO's frameworkd. It replaces gpsd it implements the Gypsy API communicating with applications via dbus fso-gpsd - is a compatibility shim to translate Gypsy messages for applications that expect gpsd tangogps - a map/gps application tangogps-fso - a version of tangogps that has been modified to understand Gypsy messages sarcasm I don't know how you could find this confusing. /sarcasm That is why I said something is talking to your GPS, if you have a stock FSO then you have ogpsd talking to the gps and tangogps (the FSO version) and Zhone are getting their data via Gypsy. You don't need gpsd or fso-gpsd in this situation. Thanx for the detail explaination, but I am still a little confused. After installation of Debian I followed the tangogps guide from OM wiki. I installed fso-gps and tangogps, both with apt-get install fso-gps tangogps and it doesn't work together. Neither 'location' nor 'tango'. After a selfmade confusion with my servers iptables I installed also netutils-ping and dnsutils. Thats all. So, please give me a hint what to de-install and which combination to install and how to configured it. Maybe also the startup with zhone gui, currently I need to start tangogps by xterm. BTW, I checked my process list and couldn't find any other gpsd except fso-gpsd: debian-gta02:~# ps -ef|grep gps root 1524 1 0 11:32 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/fso-gpsd -P /var/run/fso-gpsd.pid The reboot was several hours before... I think you need ogpsd running too. ogpsd talks to the gps and outputs data in gypsy format over dbus. fso-gpsd reads gypsy format data from dbus and outputs gpsd format data for apps needing to use gpsd. ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
this is not freedom [was:Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone]
Hi, I not sure , but, AFAIK , I can run free software for any purpose (freedom 0) , but the Google phone is locked to one cellular provider , T-mobile , and the device is SIM-locked [1] (paragraph 9 - first line). This is not freedom ! [1] http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080923-t-mobile-google-finally-unveil-the-first-android-phone.html - doron Steven Kurylo wrote: Even if the code is open, will the hardware be? The hardware could easily check if the software has been changed and then cut power. Hopefully there will at least be some interesting bits to borrow. On 9/24/08, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 19:21, David Samblas any news about the real openess of android? first phone has just been announced to be released, and then the code should be open sourced : http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/09/announcing-android-10-sdk-release-1.html So what's next for us? Well, we'll keep working on the SDK, as I said. But we're also working hard with our partners in the Open Handset Alliance on the open-source release, with the aim of making the code available in the fourth quarter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.09] resolv.conf
Simple Question Is /etc/resolv.conf still an issue with 2008.09? As far as I'm concerned it is a problem according to a simple Ping, but perhaps I'm wrong with that. Surely to God this should be fix and in the 2008.09 release. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone
Yes, take for sure than HTC will not release as an open phone as Openmoko, when I was talking about openess I was talking of the sofware stack, to precisely to the posiblitiy neo can run that software on it. El mié, 24-09-2008 a las 15:53 +0200, Cédric Berger escribió: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 15:46, Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if the code is open, will the hardware be? The hardware could easily check if the software has been changed and then cut power. What is interesting is that the code is open so that you can port it a more open hardware (Neo !) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD conversion and editing
Hi, I have converted as much as possible from the CAD files into BRLCAD files. Propably I have forgotten to tell Michael Shiloh where the converted files are. (As of I had eMail contact to him) Also I am not much familar with the BRL CAD and I also could not compare the files to their orginal versions. Where could I put the tgz file that contains all the others (~ 16 MB) ? The file also contains a script. (How I have converted the igs files) Regards, Lothar Am 24.09.2008 um 16:09 schrieb Claus Christmann: Please see inline and below... On Wednesday 24 September 2008 08:59:12 am Breakable wrote: Hi, Anybody got any success for editing CAD files for the phone case? Basically I am trying to get them open in brlcad (which seems to be the best free CAD software ever), without any success yet. I had some success in VariCad demo (proprietary) where parts of the design are imported using STEP format, but it does not seem good enough, as I see about 50% of the shapes usually. IGES on the other hand seems like a total dissaster. The IGES files I created seemed to work in Pro/E and CATIA V5. Can you figure out if the files are corrupted or if it is a non-working import filter in brlcad that does not work? Have you tried opening a single file and not the complete assembly? The only solution I currently see is buying or pirating the Pro/ ENGINEER to edit or convert them to brlcad .g format using the Pro/E to BRLCAD converter plugin for Pro/ENGINEER from the brlcad suite. Buying or pirating for this task is not the option I like. Anybody that has a Pro/ENGINEER license can assist with that? There is a nice description how to do it in http://brlcad.org/w/images/6/66/Converting_Geometry.pdf in section 4.9 page 27 of pdf. I have access to a Pro/E licencense and can look into that. However, it won't happen till the weekend... After this is done properly, maybe the BRLCAD to DXF converter can be used to improve accessibility of design files for those that have AutoCad. DXF is essentially a 2D format. Since there is no conversion from 3D to 2D that does not lose information, a usefull conversion heavily depends on the need of the user of those 2D DXF files. IF the list could agree on a limited number of planes/slices through the 3D model I might be willing to put the time into creating them. If this issue wont be resolved I don't believe a community effort to build on the openness of the device will ever succeed. Regards, Ignas As said above, I will look into this brlcad over the weekend and look into the conversion of the files into the appropriate format. However, I can't promise anything... (BTW, I have never heard of brlcad, but I also hardly use anything else than CATIA these days...) Regards, Claus -- Claus Christmann Graduate Research Assistant Georgia Institute of Technology 270 Ferst Drive Atlanta, GA 30332-0150, USA http://uav.ae.gatech.edu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR as a USB-Key
The module g_file_storage is only available in the testing repositories... Citando martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks, it seems pretty strait forward. I will try this. 2008/9/24 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, is it possible to make the FreeRunner act like a regular media storage device ? The inherent question is how to specify which file or partition would be mapped to this simulated device. I thought that no, but it seems the opposite: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Using_the_Neo_as_a_Mass_storage_device (there you find also how to configure the partition. ___ Openmoko community mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Ligações: - [1] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [2] mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone
Has anyone tried to install Android on a Freerunner? - Original Message - From: David Samblas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:58:18 AM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone Yes, take for sure than HTC will not release as an open phone as Openmoko, when I was talking about openess I was talking of the sofware stack, to precisely to the posiblitiy neo can run that software on it. El mié, 24-09-2008 a las 15:53 +0200, Cédric Berger escribió: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 15:46, Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if the code is open, will the hardware be? The hardware could easily check if the software has been changed and then cut power. What is interesting is that the code is open so that you can port it a more open hardware (Neo !) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.09] resolv.conf
El día Wednesday, September 24, 2008 a las 03:58:01PM +0100, Arigead escribió: Simple Question Is /etc/resolv.conf still an issue with 2008.09? As far as I'm concerned it is a problem according to a simple Ping, but perhaps I'm wrong with that. Surely to God this should be fix and in the 2008.09 release. I run Om2008.09; I don't know what exactly the issue with the /etc/resolv.conf should be, in fact it is just empty; I don't care because I need diffrent lines in it when I'm in my home office or at work and I just fill in what I need by SSH'ing to the Gadget; what should be there per default? matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: this is not freedom [was:Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone]
Again I don't know how much google will open their software, It's clear than if HTC + T-movile are involved in the phone the phone itself will not be free, that not worry me is a no go on hardware openness. I had some hope on the software stack not in hardware. El mié, 24-09-2008 a las 17:49 +0300, doron escribió: Hi, I not sure , but, AFAIK , I can run free software for any purpose (freedom 0) , but the Google phone is locked to one cellular provider , T-mobile , and the device is SIM-locked [1] (paragraph 9 - first line). This is not freedom ! [1] http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080923-t-mobile-google-finally-unveil-the-first-android-phone.html - doron Steven Kurylo wrote: Even if the code is open, will the hardware be? The hardware could easily check if the software has been changed and then cut power. Hopefully there will at least be some interesting bits to borrow. On 9/24/08, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 19:21, David Samblas any news about the real openess of android? first phone has just been announced to be released, and then the code should be open sourced : http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/09/announcing-android-10-sdk-release-1.html So what's next for us? Well, we'll keep working on the SDK, as I said. But we're also working hard with our partners in the Open Handset Alliance on the open-source release, with the aim of making the code available in the fourth quarter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone
It's need to be ported before can be runned, and needs to be open to port it, they said they will open it at final of this year. El mié, 24-09-2008 a las 09:05 -0600, Vince M. Clark escribió: Has anyone tried to install Android on a Freerunner? - Original Message - From: David Samblas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:58:18 AM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone Yes, take for sure than HTC will not release as an open phone as Openmoko, when I was talking about openess I was talking of the sofware stack, to precisely to the posiblitiy neo can run that software on it. El mié, 24-09-2008 a las 15:53 +0200, Cédric Berger escribió: On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 15:46, Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if the code is open, will the hardware be? The hardware could easily check if the software has been changed and then cut power. What is interesting is that the code is open so that you can port it a more open hardware (Neo !) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone
IIRC android needs a armv5 Instruction Set and the FR has a armv4 one. maybe google will change this in the future? or maybe gta03 will have an armv5 cpu? at least, now, on the freerunner, it's not possible. sl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Christian Weßel wrote: I found a MMCX GPS antenna at ebay and want to know your statements about it: http://cgi.ebay.de/EXTERNE-AKTIVE-GPS-ANTENNE-MMCX-NAVIGATION-5M-KABEL_W0QQitemZ350100709576QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item350100709576_trkparms=72%3A823%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 I don't speak German, but I don't see a lot of technical details on that page; active antenna, magnetic, 5m cable. That is not a lot of information to go on. The key piece of information that seems to be missing is the voltage requirements for the antenna. Another important piece of information would be the signal gain. As far as I know, the freerunner supplies 3 volts to the antenna. I have seen a lot of inexpensive antennae that will work with any voltage between 1.8V and 5V but I have also seen others that will only work with 5V. I am cautious with ebay sellers who don't put basic technical information in the descriptions (unless they have a precise part # and I know what the specs are. in that case I don't care if the seller knows :-) -stacy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
CAD conversion and editing
Great, If there are people up to it, I hope someone will get it done sometime (soon?). I also got an email from someone named Christoph, he might do it tonight. I hope whoever is first will post to the newsgroup, so there is no dublication of effort. As of getting IGES files loading into BRL-CAD it would be great to get some directions on that, because I tried it myself, by following the manual, and did not succeed neither in BRL-CAD nor in VariCad. I am almost positive the files were not corrupted as there was not error. This link proves it is possible http://brlcad.org/gallery/s/screenshots/iges-openmoko-conversion.png.html but the question is how? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Concept arts. Interface - how I would like it to see.
Am Mittwoch, 24. September 2008 schrieb wp: While having some free time, I decided to create some concept arts of interface. They are created from what we can have today in Qtopia and Om, but I have added some features and polished them a little. So.. here you go: Main idea: http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=structure.png And concept arts. http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept1.png http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept2.png http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept3.png What is your opinion? Say what you like, and what you don't? Make your own pics, share it with us. Free the imagination! cool, I like your mockups. I have also made some [1], wich are in some points similar to yours. The main idea is to have multiple workspaces like on a linux desktop. the first is freely customisable with google, yahoo, apple-dashboard, karamba or other widgets, where you can also place quickstarters for the dialprogram and so on. so it is a combination of your INFO BOX and the SPEED DIAL area. the top bar is unneccesery on a freely custobizable screen. On every other screen there is the topbar wich is also freely custobizable with miniwidgets or tools like you know it from the kde-bar. I would replace he slidermenu with a gesture from left to right to reach the config. And an other gesture to reach an applicationmenu with favorits, taskmanager and other program categorys. With gestures from left to right or rigth to left on the top bar you can change throu all running programs. with a gesture from the top bar down you can change to the homescreen. I hope you understand my text :-) [1] http://comiles.eu/~natanael/bilder/omoko/mockups/ be blessed Natanael -- Web: http://natanael.comiles.eu E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber/XMPP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 168210209 Skype: white_gecko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian/FSO] A different SID tune for different callers?
Is there some simple way to get fso-frameworkd play different sid tunes when different people call? If not, where do I hack apropriately? -- Joakim Verona ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I brought your question (in German language) to saler. Waiting for answer. Am Mittwoch, den 24.09.2008, 09:30 -0600 schrieb -stacy: ... I don't speak German, but I don't see a lot of technical details on that page; active antenna, magnetic, 5m cable. That is not a lot of information to go on. The key piece of information that seems to be missing is the voltage requirements for the antenna. Another important piece of information would be the signal gain. As far as I know, the freerunner supplies 3 volts to the antenna. I have seen a lot of inexpensive antennae that will work with any voltage between 1.8V and 5V but I have also seen others that will only work with 5V. I am cautious with ebay sellers who don't put basic technical information in the descriptions (unless they have a precise part # and I know what the specs are. in that case I don't care if the seller knows :-) -stacy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- mfg/br, christian weßel Flurstraße 14 29640 Schneverdingen Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefon: +49 5193 97 14 95 Mobile: +49 171 357 59 57 http://wesselch.homelinux.org signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[qtopia]how to add script to the dev tools menu?
is it possible? how? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone
On Wednesday 24 September 2008, Sébastien Lorquet wrote: IIRC android needs a armv5 Instruction Set and the FR has a armv4 one. maybe google will change this in the future? or maybe gta03 will have an armv5 cpu? at least, now, on the freerunner, it's not possible. Google's released binaries need armv5, but I suspect that if we had the source it would compile for an armv4 target. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR as a USB-Key
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 .. and when you are able to 'rmmod g_file_storage' i would be glad if you tell how you did .. Am 24.09.2008 um 17:03 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The module g_file_storage is only available in the testing repositories... Citando martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks, it seems pretty strait forward. I will try this. 2008/9/24 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, is it possible to make the FreeRunner act like a regular media storage device ? The inherent question is how to specify which file or partition would be mapped to this simulated device. I thought that no, but it seems the opposite: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Using_the_Neo_as_a_Mass_storage_device (there you find also how to configure the partition. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community - -- - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFI2mEkr81gVylJyzERAtv5AKCGZGp0FkLZHjkQGosn7MscM94OjQCglSFu sr7bYYr/I0EwkRLnmZBap5A= =GAOT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian gps] How to check gps
Al Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 24 September 2008, Christian Weßel wrote: Ok, if I understand in right: HW SW SW SW gps - ogpsd - fso-gpsd - tangogps - location Right? That's my understanding, yes. As far as i know Location doesn't use FSO-gpsd. It uses the more FSO native access method (ogpsd?) for communication. FSO-gpsd is only for programs like tangogps or navit which uses gpsd and now needs this wrapper for that purpose. If someone of you manage to use fso-gpsd with tangogps for more than a few minutes without problems than please report it. My try to do so ended in a failure why i use (old) gpsd at the moment. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone
I watched a press conference (on youtube) that took place in London and there were many important questions. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS5s89H6BW4 (woot he's canadian to boot no doobt aboot it) One person asked if we will be able to run Android on other open phones and the rep said why not? There were also alot of other questions about openmoko and the rep was asking if anyone in the room had one he could look at. Once the code is released it can be compiled to run on arm4, but developers will need to write some kind of interface to connect the software with the hardware. The rep said drivers would need to be written for the specific hardware of the open device in question (which are already being worked on) but they may need to be slightly modified to understand Android commands. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-OT--First-rumors-about-first-Google-phone-tp1113024p1115716.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR as a USB-Key
I'm using the stable OM2008.9, and so I can't even do rmmod g_ether, because it is built-in. (or maybe it's cdc_ether, but the problem is the same) . So there is no chance for me. :( I guess you have to use a custom kernel, or perhaps an FSO or Testing image... Citando Christian Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 .. and when you are able to 'rmmod g_file_storage' i would be glad if you tell how you did .. Am 24.09.2008 um 17:03 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The module g_file_storage is only available in the testing repositories... Citando martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks, it seems pretty strait forward. I will try this. 2008/9/24 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, is it possible to make the FreeRunner act like a regular media storage device ? The inherent question is how to specify which file or partition would be mapped to this simulated device. I thought that no, but it seems the opposite: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Using_the_Neo_as_a_Mass_storage_device (there you find also how to configure the partition. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community - -- - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFI2mEkr81gVylJyzERAtv5AKCGZGp0FkLZHjkQGosn7MscM94OjQCglSFu sr7bYYr/I0EwkRLnmZBap5A= =GAOT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtopia]how to add script to the dev tools menu?
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is it possible? how? I do not know the simple way, but if you want try the hard way you have to patch devices/ficgta01/src/devtools/* in qtopia sources, compile it and deploy. Howewer i did some experiment, and adding a simple desktop file in the filesystem does not work. When developing with sdk, and doing a make install, it installs a desktop file and launch a content_installer utility that modify the qtopia sqlite database. This is a x86 application that modify this db on the image to deploy to the device. I'm quite sure that you may copy the db on pc, modify it and redeploy to the freerunner and it should work. Another option could be to compile content_installer for the device directly and launch from it. The best would be if some trolltech guru answers to this question giving for example some qcop tricks as it's becoming a FAQ to report on the wiki :) Regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Concept arts. Interface - how I would like it to see.
wp wrote: What is your opinion? Say what you like, and what you don't? Make your own pics, share it with us. Free the imagination! Very very nice :) Why not substitute the touch for the left panel with an accel gesture that slides the panel tilting the phone? This could lock the panel and using other accel gestures like up or down (to speak like accelgest language) slide the application panels or something else like paper sheets. Touching the icons could launch the application or (in some point of the screen) unlock the panel and go back to the main screen. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian gps] How to check gps
Fox Mulder, 2008-09-24 17:51:30 +0200 : If someone of you manage to use fso-gpsd with tangogps for more than a few minutes without problems than please report it. My try to do so ended in a failure why i use (old) gpsd at the moment. It works for me. I don't record traces these days because I'm stuck at home working, but I get a fix that lasts for as long as I've looked at it so far. Roland. -- Roland Mas Au royaume des aveugles, les borgnes n'ont qu'un oeil. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone
On Wednesday 24 September 2008 17:44:53 Al Johnson wrote: Google's released binaries need armv5, but I suspect that if we had the source it would compile for an armv4 target. Maybe we should ask Google for doing the port. They have the resources and are well known for supporting OpenSource projects. Best regards, Mark Weinem ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.09] resolv.conf
On Wednesday 24 September 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing should be in there by default!!! In openmoko, the file /etc/resolv.conf is managed dynamically by the program resolvconf. Editing it by hand is a hack (that must only be used when the DHCP server does not provide a nameserver IP, or when the interface is configured by hand). See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/07/msg00438.html I know resolvconf is supposed to manage it, but in 2008.8 it didn't. By default usb0 is up, so resolvconf should have populates it with a suitable resolver, but instead it is empty. In 2008.8 resolvconf didn't populate it with the nameserver supplied by dhcp when the wifi interface was brought up. I don't know if this is still the case in 2008.9. Citando Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: El día Wednesday, September 24, 2008 a las 03:58:01PM +0100, Arigead escribió: Is /etc/resolv.conf still an issue with 2008.09? what should be there per default? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR as a USB-Key
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using the stable OM2008.9, and so I can't even do rmmod g_ether, because it is built-in. (or maybe it's cdc_ether, but the problem is the same) . So there is no chance for me. :( I guess you have to use a custom kernel, or perhaps an FSO or Testing image... The last FSO GTA02 kernel+modules from 16-Sep-2008 12:37 doesn't support usb gadget modules like the OM kernels. So there is no need to try this kernel if you want this feature. I hope the FSO developer changes their kernel soon to compile external gadget modules like OM does. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian gps] How to check gps
Roland Mas wrote: Fox Mulder, 2008-09-24 17:51:30 +0200 : If someone of you manage to use fso-gpsd with tangogps for more than a few minutes without problems than please report it. My try to do so ended in a failure why i use (old) gpsd at the moment. It works for me. I don't record traces these days because I'm stuck at home working, but I get a fix that lasts for as long as I've looked at it so far. And you use debian and only deinstalled gpsd und installed fso-gpsd for that to work? Is the gps-time correctly shown in tangogps? Maybe i should try it again if this works for you. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian gps] How to check gps
On Wednesday 24 September 2008, Fox Mulder wrote: Al Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 24 September 2008, Christian Weßel wrote: Ok, if I understand in right: HWSW SW SW gps - ogpsd - fso-gpsd - tangogps - location Right? That's my understanding, yes. As far as i know Location doesn't use FSO-gpsd. It uses the more FSO native access method (ogpsd?) for communication. FSO-gpsd is only for programs like tangogps or navit which uses gpsd and now needs this wrapper for that purpose. I read the diagram as showing both fso-gpsd and location consuming the gypsy-format output from ogpsd, and tangogps consuming the gpsd-format output from fso-gpsd. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian gps] How to check gps
Fox Mulder, 2008-09-24 18:10:13 +0200 : It works for me. I don't record traces these days because I'm stuck at home working, but I get a fix that lasts for as long as I've looked at it so far. And you use debian and only deinstalled gpsd und installed fso-gpsd for that to work? Yes. Is the gps-time correctly shown in tangogps? I must confess I don't look at GPS time that often (NTP is there for a reason :-). Now you mention it, it seems to believe we are currently on the 30th of November, 2008 at midnight. Roland. -- Roland Mas Bonjour, je suis un virus de signature. Propagez-moi dans la vôtre ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian/FSO] A different SID tune for different callers?
Am Mittwoch, den 24.09.2008, 17:38 +0200 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is there some simple way to get fso-frameworkd play different sid tunes when different people call? If not, where do I hack apropriately? First, have a look at ./etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml. This is our rules file, where we define that a ringtone should play once a call comes in. Now you probably have to enhance the RingTone atom to make it aware of the 'peer' entry in the dbus signal CallStatus. Once you have that, you should be able to add numbers to the rules that trigger different ringtones. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian gps] How to check gps
Ok, than this bug still exists. I think i will stick to gpsd a bit longer until fso-gpsd works a bit more reliable. ;) Roland Mas wrote: Fox Mulder, 2008-09-24 18:10:13 +0200 : It works for me. I don't record traces these days because I'm stuck at home working, but I get a fix that lasts for as long as I've looked at it so far. And you use debian and only deinstalled gpsd und installed fso-gpsd for that to work? Yes. Is the gps-time correctly shown in tangogps? I must confess I don't look at GPS time that often (NTP is there for a reason :-). Now you mention it, it seems to believe we are currently on the 30th of November, 2008 at midnight. Roland. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian gps] How to check gps
Fox Mulder, 2008-09-24 18:28:25 +0200 : Ok, than this bug still exists. Actually... I left the FR running since my last mail, and it now displays the correct GPS time. I didn't keep an eye on it, so I don't know how long it took. Roland. -- Roland Mas Bee There Orr Bee A Rectangular Thyng! -- in Soul Music (Terry Pratchett) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone
I just emailed google asking if they would be interested. Lets hope they are =D -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-OT--First-rumors-about-first-Google-phone-tp1113024p1115876.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Concept arts. Interface - how I would like it to see.
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:00:56 +0200 DJDAS [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: shameless plug: http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-01.ogg http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-02.ogg http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-03.ogg http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-04.ogg new (incomplete though) theme with e's new scaleability options enabled and demos in multiple dpi's and resolutions - keyboard had a few minor tweaks. theme is INCOMPLETE. definitely not done, but on its way. wp wrote: What is your opinion? Say what you like, and what you don't? Make your own pics, share it with us. Free the imagination! Very very nice :) Why not substitute the touch for the left panel with an accel gesture that slides the panel tilting the phone? This could lock the panel and using other accel gestures like up or down (to speak like accelgest language) slide the application panels or something else like paper sheets. Touching the icons could launch the application or (in some point of the screen) unlock the panel and go back to the main screen. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Concept arts. Interface - how I would like it to see.
Petr Vanek wrote: On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:48:07 -0700 Kelvie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] (KW) wrote: On September 23, 2008 15:16:26 wp wrote: http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=artconcept1.png These look really nice :) One problem I see, though, it seems that without a stylus, the links (and just hyperlinks in general) are _really_ hard to press. I think we should be optimizing for finger-based usability instead. What you say makes sense. Just think about the REMOVE link in Shelve. 80% impossible without a stylus. But as far as the REMOVE link stays as it is and one has a stylus in his hand already, than the small links are actually OK. So the whole concept has to go either one direction or another. I would like to have the 'remove' button in the upper right corner as a big button (named close not remove) which i can press with my thumb. This would even make one handed finger use possible. -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. Please print this mail only on recycled paper. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Will software compatible in google phone?
Google phone seems to come out soon. Will you guys concern software compatibility between the pioneer neo1973 (which I can't get one from the market) and gphone from daily news paper? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD conversion and editing
Hi,
I have tried another run on files that were not successfully converted.
For sample this file:
mac:brl-cad-conv lothar$ ls -l gta02-mme01_asm.igs*
-r--r--r-- 1 lothar staff 152091796 30 Jun 16:09 gta02-
mme01_asm.igs # Converts to
-rw-r--r-- 1 lothar staff104 24 Sep 18:55 gta02-
mme01_asm.igs.g# this, when deleted
mac:brl-cad-conv lothar$ ./convert.sh
#!/bin/sh
for file in *.igs; do
if [ ! -e $file.g ]; then
/usr/brlcad/bin/iges-g -t -o $file.g $file
fi
done
Can anybody else convert this file ?
Thanks
Lothar
**
BRL-CAD Release 7.10.4 Crash Report
Thu Nov 29 17:25:17 EST 2007, Compilation 2
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/brlcad/rel-7.10.4
Command: iges-g
Process: 5011
Path: /usr/brlcad/bin/iges-g
Date: Wed Sep 24 18:56:05 2008
Call stack backtrace:
#1 0x9224e900 in nanosleep ()
#2 0x92265cd0 in sleep ()
#3 0x0017e4dc in bu_backtrace (fp=0xa0398e5c) at backtrace.c:377
start = {
tv_sec = 175365,
tv_usec = 435849
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end = {
tv_sec = 175380,
tv_usec = 436193
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start = {
tv_sec = 175365,
tv_usec = 435849
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end = {
tv_sec = 175380,
tv_usec = 436193
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start = {
tv_sec = 175365,
tv_usec = 435849
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end = {
tv_sec = 175380,
tv_usec = 436193
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start = {
tv_sec = 175365,
tv_usec = 435849
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tv_sec = 175380,
tv_usec = 436193
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#4 0x0018515c in bu_crashreport (filename=0x1a9654 iges-g-5011-
bomb.log) at crashreport.c:109
#5 0x0017f370 in bu_bomb (str=0xa0360424 \00580\006) at bomb.c:186
#6 0x008641f4 in rt_nurb_s_eval (srf=0x7783f10, u=1.046846010283,
v=2.5684601028290004, final_value=0xb230) at nurb_eval.c:88
mesh_ptr = (fastf_t *) 0x7784210
curves = (fastf_t *) 0x2
i = -1073745360
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col_size = 2
c_ptr = (fastf_t *) 0x8e17b4
diff_curve = (fastf_t *) 0x7784b70
ev_pt = (fastf_t *) 0xe
k_index = -1
coords = 3
#7 0x00019418 in Assign_vu_geom (vu=0x7784930, u=1.046846010283,
v=2.5684601028290004, srf=0x7783f10) at trimsurf.c:390
uvw = {3.4869690200662636e-76, 8.9972621536927546e-311,
6.1918101183250712e-316}
pt_on_srf = {0, 0, 0, 0}
moved = 1
#8 0x000198d8 in Add_trim_curve (entity_no=125323632, lu=0x77848d0,
srf=0x7783f10) at trimsurf.c:478
entity_type = 110
crv = (struct edge_g_cnurb *) 0x7784970
eu = (struct edgeuse *) 0x77848d0
new_eu = (struct edgeuse *) 0x1dc40
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srf=0x7783f10, fu=0x77849f4) at trimsurf.c:635
curve_count = 4
curve_list = (int *) 0x77849f0
lu = (struct loopuse *) 0x77848d0
new_eu = (struct edgeuse *) 0x10a0
entity_type = 102
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u = -1.3347076269835431e+88
v = 0
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#10 0x0001a584 in Make_loop (entity_no=121920, orientation=1,
on_surf_de=2115, srf=0x7783f10, fu=0x7784780) at trimsurf.c:828
lu = (struct loopuse *) 0xe
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param_curve_de = 2129
model_curve_de = 2119
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trimsurf.c:1080
m = (struct model *) 0x5501d50
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Re: Concept arts. Interface - how I would like it to see.
woho! I see great things to come. I like the slider checkbox from illume-02.ogg And the keyboard zoom thing. But i also really like WP's idea for a desktop shelf homescreen with info screen and quicklauncher. And if i may throw some ideas in the pot too. * Move the Remove button as bigger button to the top right corner of the (opened) illume slider. (As proposed in my earlier mail) * App launcher as scrollable list like in the 2008.2 home screen. (with sections as in 2008.2 too) Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:00:56 +0200 DJDAS [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: shameless plug: http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-01.ogg http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-02.ogg http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-03.ogg http://www.rasterman.com/files/illume-04.ogg new (incomplete though) theme with e's new scaleability options enabled and demos in multiple dpi's and resolutions - keyboard had a few minor tweaks. theme is INCOMPLETE. definitely not done, but on its way. -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. Please print this mail only on recycled paper. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian gps] (solved) How to check gps
Hello folks, first thanx to all of you for support. Second, now I get clear GPS data. I don't know what was happen, but I de-install fso-gpsd, install gpsd, check it unsuccessfull, de-install gpsd and re-install fso-gpsd again. And now I get a fix in less than one minute. Tango shows me the correct data and location does it too. I will verify it tomorrow during a small trip. Great, this issue is solved, now to the next :-). Thanx a lot, christian Am Mittwoch, den 24.09.2008, 18:43 +0200 schrieb Roland Mas: Fox Mulder, 2008-09-24 18:28:25 +0200 : Ok, than this bug still exists. Actually... I left the FR running since my last mail, and it now displays the correct GPS time. I didn't keep an eye on it, so I don't know how long it took. Roland. -- mfg/br, christian Flurstraße 14 29640 Schneverdingen Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefon: +49 5193 97 14 95 Mobile: +49 171 357 59 57 http://wesselch.homelinux.org signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian gps] How to check gps
Christian Weßel wrote: Thanx for the detail explaination, but I am still a little confused. After installation of Debian I followed the tangogps guide from OM wiki. I installed fso-gps and tangogps, both with apt-get install fso-gps tangogps and it doesn't work together. Neither 'location' nor 'tango'. After a selfmade confusion with my servers iptables I installed also netutils-ping and dnsutils. Thats all. So that means you have the tangogps that uses gpsd not the version that has been modified for gypsy, thus you need fso-gpsd, which you have. So far so good. So, please give me a hint what to de-install and which combination to install and how to configured it. Maybe also the startup with zhone gui, currently I need to start tangogps by xterm. As I said in my previous email, I think your software is configured and working properly; you just don't have a fix and no combination of software will help that. To help clarify, follow along with this: Here [1] is a screen shot of the tangogps trip page when there is no gpsd for tango to talk to. As you can see, everything is blank. Here [2] is a screen shot when there is a gpsd to talk to, but the gps is powered off so gpsd can't talk to it. Now everything is zero instead of blank, with the exception of GPS Time which is epoch incorrrectly converted from my local time to GPS Time. Here [3] is a screen shot when the gps is powered on but there is no fix. Now that satellite count has changed to 14/0, which means the gps can see 14 satellites in the sky but has not locked on to any of them. The GPS Time is now correct as well which means that gps has received time from at least one of the satellites. And finally, for completeness sake, here [4] is a screen shot of everything working. The satellite count is now 14/7; 14 in view, 7 used in calculating position. [1] http://www.millions.ca/~stacy/neoFreeRunner/no-gpsd.png [2] http://www.millions.ca/~stacy/neoFreeRunner/no-gps.png [3] http://www.millions.ca/~stacy/neoFreeRunner/no-fix.png [4] http://www.millions.ca/~stacy/neoFreeRunner/fix.png Based on your description of what showed on your screen, you are in situation 3, your gps can see satelites, ogpsd is talking to your gps, fso-gpsd is talking to ogpsd and tangogps is talking to fso-gpsd. All you need now is a fix. I would suggest you go outside, sit in an open space with a good view of the sky, have a beer (or two :-) and see what happens. If you still can't get a fix, then I would suggest there is a hardware problem. There are two possibilities that I know of. The most likely is the SD Card [5] I don't know if debian includes the driver fix for this or not. The other one is an issues with the connector for the internal antenna [6]. Using an external antenna will bypass both of those issues. [5] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS_Problems [6] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner_GPS_antenna_repair_SOP BTW, I checked my process list and couldn't find any other gpsd except fso-gpsd: ogpsd will not show up as a process under that name, it will show up as python. I would recommend you install lsof and then if you type lsof /dev/ttySAC1 you will see what process has the gps device open. -stacy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] Sephora 0.1 - Suggestions needed
Michele Renda wrote: Perfect, I am collecting ideas: [GPS] Fix status Time to fist fix Warm / Cold restart and... ... Allowing to start/stop gpsd not only the interface. According to linuxtop it's one of the most power consuming process... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD conversion and editing
Please see inline and below: On Wednesday 24 September 2008 10:58:59 am Lothar Behrens wrote: Hi, I have converted as much as possible from the CAD files into BRLCAD files. Propably I have forgotten to tell Michael Shiloh where the converted files are. (As of I had eMail contact to him) Also I am not much familar with the BRL CAD and I also could not compare the files to their orginal versions. Where could I put the tgz file that contains all the others (~ 16 MB) ? If you want, I can host the files at webspace of mine, next to the IGES and STEP files. If that sounds like an option, simply email me the files. (Once Michael Shiloh gets in contact with you the files can then be transfered to downloads.openmoko.org/CAD as well) The file also contains a script. (How I have converted the igs files) Regards, Lothar Am 24.09.2008 um 16:09 schrieb Claus Christmann: Please see inline and below... On Wednesday 24 September 2008 08:59:12 am Breakable wrote: Hi, Anybody got any success for editing CAD files for the phone case? Basically I am trying to get them open in brlcad (which seems to be the best free CAD software ever), without any success yet. I had some success in VariCad demo (proprietary) where parts of the design are imported using STEP format, but it does not seem good enough, as I see about 50% of the shapes usually. IGES on the other hand seems like a total dissaster. The IGES files I created seemed to work in Pro/E and CATIA V5. Can you figure out if the files are corrupted or if it is a non-working import filter in brlcad that does not work? Have you tried opening a single file and not the complete assembly? The only solution I currently see is buying or pirating the Pro/ ENGINEER to edit or convert them to brlcad .g format using the Pro/E to BRLCAD converter plugin for Pro/ENGINEER from the brlcad suite. Buying or pirating for this task is not the option I like. Anybody that has a Pro/ENGINEER license can assist with that? There is a nice description how to do it in http://brlcad.org/w/images/6/66/Converting_Geometry.pdf in section 4.9 page 27 of pdf. I have access to a Pro/E licencense and can look into that. However, it won't happen till the weekend... After this is done properly, maybe the BRLCAD to DXF converter can be used to improve accessibility of design files for those that have AutoCad. DXF is essentially a 2D format. Since there is no conversion from 3D to 2D that does not lose information, a usefull conversion heavily depends on the need of the user of those 2D DXF files. IF the list could agree on a limited number of planes/slices through the 3D model I might be willing to put the time into creating them. If this issue wont be resolved I don't believe a community effort to build on the openness of the device will ever succeed. Regards, Ignas As said above, I will look into this brlcad over the weekend and look into the conversion of the files into the appropriate format. However, I can't promise anything... (BTW, I have never heard of brlcad, but I also hardly use anything else than CATIA these days...) Regards, Claus -- Claus Christmann Graduate Research Assistant Georgia Institute of Technology 270 Ferst Drive Atlanta, GA 30332-0150, USA http://uav.ae.gatech.edu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen The files would then be available via http://controls.ae.gatech.edu/claus/web/openmoko.html -- Claus Christmann Graduate Research Assistant Georgia Institute of Technology 270 Ferst Drive Atlanta, GA 30332-0150, USA http://uav.ae.gatech.edu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: CAD conversion and editing
Please see inline and below: On Wednesday 24 September 2008 10:09:10 am Claus Christmann wrote: Please see inline and below... On Wednesday 24 September 2008 08:59:12 am Breakable wrote: Hi, Anybody got any success for editing CAD files for the phone case? Basically I am trying to get them open in brlcad (which seems to be the best free CAD software ever), without any success yet. I had some success in VariCad demo (proprietary) where parts of the design are imported using STEP format, but it does not seem good enough, as I see about 50% of the shapes usually. IGES on the other hand seems like a total dissaster. The IGES files I created seemed to work in Pro/E and CATIA V5. Can you figure out if the files are corrupted or if it is a non-working import filter in brlcad that does not work? Have you tried opening a single file and not the complete assembly? The only solution I currently see is buying or pirating the Pro/ENGINEER to edit or convert them to brlcad .g format using the Pro/E to BRLCAD converter plugin for Pro/ENGINEER from the brlcad suite. Buying or pirating for this task is not the option I like. Anybody that has a Pro/ENGINEER license can assist with that? There is a nice description how to do it in http://brlcad.org/w/images/6/66/Converting_Geometry.pdf in section 4.9 page 27 of pdf. I have access to a Pro/E licencense and can look into that. However, it won't happen till the weekend... Hurray to procrastination... Well, I downloaded brlcad and briefly looked into that conversion thing. However, I could not figure out how to do it (again, I neither am a a regular Pro/E user nor have I ever heard of brlcad before). After this is done properly, maybe the BRLCAD to DXF converter can be used to improve accessibility of design files for those that have AutoCad. DXF is essentially a 2D format. Since there is no conversion from 3D to 2D that does not lose information, a usefull conversion heavily depends on the need of the user of those 2D DXF files. IF the list could agree on a limited number of planes/slices through the 3D model I might be willing to put the time into creating them. If this issue wont be resolved I don't believe a community effort to build on the openness of the device will ever succeed. Regards, Ignas As said above, I will look into this brlcad over the weekend and look into the conversion of the files into the appropriate format. However, I can't promise anything... (BTW, I have never heard of brlcad, but I also hardly use anything else than CATIA these days...) Regards, Claus It seems that I can't (for the lag of a better word) load the brlcad converter in Pro/E. The rather vague PDF calls for a file labeled *protk.dat* that shoul reside inside a /pro_engineer/ directory in the brlcad branch. I neither could find the file nor the directory. (I only tried the Windows binary download of brlcad since I only have a Windows Pro/E license.) So if anybody has a source to a step-by-step instruction on how to do the export from Pro/E, please let me know. Otherwise I will drop this conversion (as Andreas pointed out the IGES conversion seems to work after all). Regards, Claus -- Claus Christmann Graduate Research Assistant Georgia Institute of Technology 270 Ferst Drive Atlanta, GA 30332-0150, USA http://uav.ae.gatech.edu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
ReMoKo and openSuSE 11
Hi, I got very excited to learn about ReMoKo, but got frustrated even more that hidd (the command necessary to bind the Neo to the desktop as a hid device, see [1]) is not present on openSuSE [2]. Before I start looking into that matter I just wanted to check if anybody got ReMoKo to cooperate with kinputwizard (the part of kbluetooth in openSuSE that should do the stuff hidd used to do [3] ...) So, anybody any hints? In exchange for answers I would opt in to update the Wiki with my success story... Thanks, Claus [1]:http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ReMoko#Install_Instructions [2]:http://forums.opensuse.org/hardware/392726-hidd-not-found-system-suse-11-a.html [3]:http://en.opensuse.org/Bluetooth/kinputwizard -- Claus Christmann Graduate Research Assistant Georgia Institute of Technology 270 Ferst Drive Atlanta, GA 30332-0150, USA http://uav.ae.gatech.edu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
