Re: LED notification
No. You can get it to stay on but not flash, and this will kill the battery. Here's what Andy (kernel dev) said: It's possible to leave a GTA02 LED lit during suspend, but without waking-suspending each time, from PMU RTC interrupt for example, not to have it blink. It sounds a pretty hairy thing to attempt and it will halve suspend life at least to have an LED lit during it. from: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-October/032608.html -Nick Jason Cawood wrote: What I think I didn't communicate very well is: 1. phone is in suspend mode. 2. GSM wakes phone for sms notification 3. screen blanks after timeout 4. LED blinks while phone is not in suspend. Would that be a possible solution? On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 23:51 +, zing wrote: On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:21:08 -0600, Jason Cawood wrote: Someone posted awhile back and asked about a blinking LED to notify that was me :) missed call or message and someone responded with can't do it when the phone is suspended. In the current state, if you don't have your setting to suspend automatically, wouldn't the phone wake up from suspended mode to notify of an event? and while in that state, couldn't we make the LED blink? My understanding was that blinking in suspend mode is no go (or at least not exactly battery efficient because you'd need to wake/blink/suspend/ wash/rinse/repeat), but brightness fully on during suspend was possible (eating into your battery though also.) AIUI. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Raster+FSO] Silent Zhone
On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 01:03:18 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well I still get no sound with Zhone, calls are silent both ends, and it never rings. I can play back audio with aplay and mplayer (wave, ogg, mp3), and Raster's alarm clock works. If I manually invoke 'alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state restore' while in a silent call, I get two-way sound. But still no ringing, and of course manually calling alsactl whenever I'm lucky enough to notice that it's ringing so It sounds similar to the problem I had getting ringing working with zhone in Debian. look in the mailing list, but this is the essence: cd / ln -s /usr/share this was due to a pkg problem in Debian. I dont know if it helps you. also try playing the arkanoid sid tune with sidplay and see if that works. Well, I bricked it. Reflashed Raster, brought it back where I'd had it, and bricked it again. then a third time running right now, without opkg upgrade this time. So I haven't had a chance to worry about sound. :( That link command is missing something, needs both target link. What arkanoid sid tune? j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: mdbus not available - but where?
ons 2008-10-08 klockan 15:58 +0200 skrev Arne Zachlod: if I try gprs-on.sh there is this answer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/card# ./gprs-on.sh /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device: ActivateContext failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.Exception i have no idea what that means or what i could do to fix this problem, does anybody has a hint? I got this a couple of times (after reboots) if zhone hadn't started. Might have changed since I last had time to dig in/try out. / Fredrik signature.asc Description: Detta är en digitalt signerad meddelandedel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New pulseaudio supports bluetooth devices
tor 2008-10-09 klockan 01:19 +0100 skrev Rui Miguel Silva Seabra: PulseAudio 0.9.13 introduces support for Bluetooth audio devices http://pulseaudio.org/milestone/0.9.13 Very exciting. I've been using my SonyEricsson BT-headset for about 18 months using alsa's support for bluetooth and A2DP. With Ubuntu 8.04 the quality (hifi) went down marginally (I haven't had the time to search on how to increase sbc bitpool[0] (which is my guess on what happened)). However, It's been working very well, even enabling me to actually use the restrooms at work whithout having to pause/stop until I get back to my desk. :) However, the bluetooth adapter[1] I used with my previous laptop had better performance (range, distance from headset to laptop) than the builtin chip/stuff in my T61. / Fredrik [0] This is from my .a2dprc file I used when I compiled alsa-bt stuff myself (before Ubuntu 8.04): # Allows to specify the sbc bitpool, this can help reducing bandwith # 8 Allows to run on a 115200 bauds with corresponding quality ;) # 64 needs USB or 921600 bauds # Recommended value from Bluetooth spec. is 53 sbcbitpool=53 [1] lsusb says Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0a5c:200a Broadcom Corp. Bluetooth dongle signature.asc Description: Detta är en digitalt signerad meddelandedel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Raster+FSO] Silent Zhone
Arkanoid-Sid Tune ist the ringtone. You need to install gst-sid (Or gst-plugins-sid or similar) to hear that. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Qtopia / qtextended: crashing icons
They might have the most complete distro of them all, a few wrong presses can break the entire installation like it's nothing. I am the latest qtextended. Below the main screen you have a few icons, the phone, the menu, favourites, and something I don't remember. When I press the phone, qtopia crashes and will never boot again. Does anyone know what I did and what file I need to fix to get it going again? (I had to reflash qtextended 3 times already... It also crashed when I enabled the wheel thing.) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenMoko codesprint at FSCONS, 24th Oct
Hi freedom lovers, The organizers of this year's FSCONS[0], hosted in Gothenburg Sweden, earlier this week announced[1] that it will host an OpenMoko code sprint. The details posted[2] says that the goal of the sprint is to work on an application called voj (see the site for details) but also to just shed light on the project and answer questions for any of those not familiar to the OpenMoko project. I'm one of those that will be at the site and try to get as many as possible to throw their Nokias, SE:s and Motorolas out the window and instead decide they choose freedom and OpenMoko over ... some bad words regarding their current locked in phones. :) I'm glad this takes place in my hometown and I urge anyone that has the possibility to take part to either visit the conference which I feel is truly one a kind, or by joining the mailing list at http://mail.fscons.org/mailman/listinfo or jump in on irc://irc.freenode.net/fscons and say hi. Hopefully we'll get the media present interested enough to run a story on how open source collaboration can look like (Agile, very close to it's users and leveraging functionality actually requested by real users and not some developer apartment). Apologies if you consider this being spam. I hope to see you at the conference! / Fredrik Wendt [0] http://fscons.org/ October 24th - 26th @ IT University Gothenburg [1] http://fscons.org/2008/10/07/openmoko-code-sprint/ [2] http://fscons.org/openmoko-codesprint/ PS. Briefly on FSCONS: As three of the biggest names in community organisations, Free Software Foundation Europe, Creative Commons and Wikimedia Sverige are joining forces under the banner of Free Society at this years FSCONS. With the help of many different organisations like Debian GNU/linux, KDE, Postgres, OpenStreetMap, Midgard, CCMixter, Magnatune and the Icelandic Fab Labs, FSCONS will be a truly unique experience. DS signature.asc Description: Detta är en digitalt signerad meddelandedel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
New Gllin version available
Dear Community, I am happy to announce that a new version of gllin has been uploaded to http://3rdparty.downloads.openmoko.org/gllin/ Changes include: * The gllin files now reside in /usr/share/gllin and not in /home/root anymore. A convenience wrapper is provided in /usr/bin/gllin. * An init script is available at /etc/init.d/gllin with configuration in /etc/defaults/gllin. * The default init script disables logging and sending NMEA data to a named pipe. Only UDP packets to port 6000 are enabled. Best Regards, The Openmoko Team ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian Wiki] Update of DebianOnFreeRunner by jidanni
Hi jidanni,
I hope you are reading this.
Am Donnerstag, den 09.10.2008, 01:00 + schrieb Debian Wiki :
Dear Wiki user,
You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category on Debian Wiki for
change notification.
The following page has been changed by jidanni:
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner
The comment on the change is:
sparse file savings
Thanks for your contributions to the wiki. But please do not use the
Wiki page as medium for discussion. The page is already too large
anyways, and having TODO items and unanswered questions on it does not
help the user.
Instead, please post the questions on one of the mailing lists, discuss
them, and if there is a solution, make a concise addition to the wiki.
Now to your concrete questions:
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= Installing and Using Debian on an OpenMoko FreeRunner =
You can install Debian on your
[http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner OpenMoko FreeRunner], and use
that system to fulfill your telephone needs. You can then use almost all of
the packages available for Debian, with just one call to {{{apt-get
install}}}. It’s still the same full featured Distribution that you know from
your desktop or server.
+ TODO: please mention at this point in the article if we will end up with
dual booting ability with the former system or not.
+
This is already explained at “Adjusting your uBoot environment”. I don’t
think this should be duplicated.
== Notes ==
This installer is relatively new and probably contains bugs. You use it at
your own risk.
@@ -15, +17 @@
== Backup ==
If you do not have a card reader to backup your MicroSD card, you can copy
the contents of the card including partition data over a network. You will
need a booted Freerunner with network access (USB, Wireless etc.) and a
*nix-based machine. Make sure power management is not set to suspend on the
FreeRunner.
+ TODO: please mention if we need to backup other disks/items of the
FreeRunner or not and why.
+
If you wish to take a backup of your MicroSD card to restore from later,
run the following from your Freerunner:
The installer does not touch anything else, so nothing to mention here.
{{{
dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] gzip -9 sdcard.gz
}}}
- This will create a compressed backup of your card performing the
compression on the backup server (assuming that it's more powerful than
400MHz). To restore, run the following from your backup server:
+ This will create a compressed backup of your card performing the
compression on the backup server (assuming that it's more powerful than
400MHz). (Then one can get bigger squeezings if one uses sparse files:)
+ {{{
+ $ gunzip sdcard.gz; zum sdcard; tar zScf sdcard.tar.gz sdcard; ls -sog
+ 51 -r--r--r-- 1 510132224 2008-10-07 13:18 sdcard
+ 3 -rw-r--r-- 1 2745 2008-10-09 08:29 sdcard.tar.gz
+ }}}
+ To restore, run the following from your backup server:
What is zum?
II) Set boot partition to be vfat by running {{{SD_PART1_FS=vfat
./install.sh all}}}. Now you do not need to mess with modifying U-Boot's
default setup.
+ (Though the partition exists, it takes up all the disk, and we need to make
more partitions.)
+
What do you mean by this? I don’t quite understand that.
Now be patient for a while, as the script downloads, installs and sets up
everything it needs. Once it finishes without an error, you have to adjust
your uBoot environment:
In case of temporary errors (for example network problems), you can
re-enter the installation by specifying the stages you want to run:
Thanks,
Joachim
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Debian Developer
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Re: LED notification
On Thursday 09 October 2008 07:49:32 nickd wrote: No. You can get it to stay on but not flash, and this will kill the battery. Please forgive me if this was discussed already. But how do other linux powered devices (e.g. Nokia N8x0) manage their suspend? They seem to not go into such a deep suspend like the om's do. They just turn off the display (touchscreen is able to wake it up) but are still able to reach a battery life of 10 days. They do have blinking leds on incoming IM or e-mail messages even during suspend. Any ideas? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FR adapter - shocking experience!
Hi, this morning, I pulled the FR adapter out of the (230 VAC) socket, and accidentally touched one of the prongs. I experienced a short shock. Is there a capacitor in there that can do that? It was fully out of the socket when I touched it! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] problems with roaming
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 14:27, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will try, when I have time, to get both logs from qtopia 4.3.3 and qtextended 4.4.1 to compare AT commands when selecting an operator. (I noticed for example that 4.3.3 issued a ATE0 before AT+COPS=, and not 4.4.1) Also I do not know if in my qtopia 4.3.3, GSM noise reduction was activated, but it was on 4.4.1 (AT%N0187) Me again... looking at logs, it looks like in 4.4.1, GSM multiplexing is used, and not in 4.3.2. Is that right ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: LED notification
2008/10/9 Michael Zanetti [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please forgive me if this was discussed already. But how do other linux powered devices (e.g. Nokia N8x0) manage their suspend? they have a separate, very-low-powered processor, that handles only power usage of the phone, which runs continuously. they are generally very low clock-rate, and couldn't do much in the way of general-purpose processing, but are more than capable of this sort of thing the neo doesn't have one They seem to not go into such a deep suspend like the om's do. They just turn off the display (touchscreen is able to wake it up) but are still able to reach a battery life of 10 days. They do have blinking leds on incoming IM or e-mail messages even during suspend. the main cpu is suspended, like in the neo, but the power management unit is not ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New pulseaudio supports bluetooth devices
On Thursday 09 October 2008 08:30:55 Fredrik Wendt wrote: tor 2008-10-09 klockan 01:19 +0100 skrev Rui Miguel Silva Seabra: PulseAudio 0.9.13 introduces support for Bluetooth audio devices http://pulseaudio.org/milestone/0.9.13 Very exciting. I've been using my SonyEricsson BT-headset for about 18 months using alsa's support for bluetooth and A2DP. With Ubuntu 8.04 the quality (hifi) went down marginally (I haven't had the time to search on how to increase sbc bitpool[0] (which is my guess on what happened)). 53 is indeed the best setting for the bitpool. Using higher bitpool values doesn't increase the quality much and I haven't seen many devices (mobile phones, headsets...) so far that support higher values. Instead, make sure you are using 8 Subbands (4 Subbands really smashes down quality) and a blocklenght of 16 (shorter blocklengths increase data throughput). Support for these settings is mandatory and most likely you have already set it up this way. If quality still isn't getting better I guess its the encoder you are using. I have seen some devices that have problems encoding/decodig with certain settings while other settings may work well. I haven't had any experience with alsa a2dp streaming so far though as I _really_ hate alsa config files. So I didn't take the time to setup a2dp streaming on my linux devices here... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable
On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 16:19 -0700, Michael Shiloh wrote: Just did that. I reorganized the WLAN page and incoporated a number of community suggestions, including Tom's. In particular, this should work for most people: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Wifi#Using_iwconfig_manually Feedback and other working examples appreciated. Is feedback by mail ok ? I always use the manual iwconfig+udhcpc method. It works most of the time right after reboot, but often looses the network after a few minutes (sometimes it works for hals an hour). After that, redoing the iwconfig sometimes works, sometimes not and another reboot is in order. HTH, Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Mobile phone comparison
http://files.myopera.com/Ilya%20Shpan'kov/albums/616329/difference.jpg :-) -- Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ICQ: 115226275] http://feldgendler.livejournal.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: omview is cool!
2008/10/8 Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey! I didn't fiddle with my neo for a few weeks now and flashed 2008.8_20080903 today (which suspends/resumes fine for me, hooray, but settings doesn't start yet...) and installed omview because I had heard of it here. I just need to say: to whoever made omview, this thing is really cool! Controlling it through gestures works fine and it simply does what it's intended to do (I think so, from what I know it does). Keep that up! Thanks a lot, nice to hear that. I really took care to make the program simply work without fiddling, and it's good to hear this is appreciated. And yes it does not much, show images. 1:1 zoom on click. That's all. No hidden features (Ok aside from raw file support - I'm propably the only one using that). hendrik ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Gllin version available
Thanks for thinking about the NEO!!! Much appreciated. Good job ;-) Regards, Marc. On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Daniel Willmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Community, I am happy to announce that a new version of gllin has been uploaded to http://3rdparty.downloads.openmoko.org/gllin/ Changes include: * The gllin files now reside in /usr/share/gllin and not in /home/root anymore. A convenience wrapper is provided in /usr/bin/gllin. * An init script is available at /etc/init.d/gllin with configuration in /etc/defaults/gllin. * The default init script disables logging and sending NMEA data to a named pipe. Only UDP packets to port 6000 are enabled. Best Regards, The Openmoko Team ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
New to Freerunner
Hello, I recieved my Freerunner a week ago and I have some questions/issues. -I have 2 sim cards: An old one issued to me 5 years ago by my Telco (Mobistar in Belgium) This one works in the freerunner perfectly I have a newer one also issued just in januari wich is linked to the phone number i'm intending on using in the future. When I insert this sim card regardless in what distribution (FSO,2008.8/9, QTextended) I have to enter my PIN twice and then it returns me Sim card not present When I use the working sim card with FSO the sound isn't working. I get no dialtone when making calls or no ringtones when recieving when the freerunner is set up to ring and vibrate. Is there anyone with tips / information regarding these issues? Thank you in advance Raf Goetschalckx / RaGoe ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QT Extended] Wheel Server problem
First, congratulations on getting an improved version out the door and thanks for that. However, I didn't get to play around with it too much because I've already managed to mess it up. While trying out the new features in the Home Screen toolkit, I activated Wheel Server. Now when I choose the application icon from the home screen, the icons for the applications normally on the next screen come swooping in from the right side in a circular motion and stop. I can't seem to choose any so I can't remove the Wheel Server function. I didn't load mwester's modules when I flashed QT Extended - is that the cause or is this tool incomplete? Is there a way to reverse this from the command line via usb ssh? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-QT-Extended--Wheel-Server-problem-tp1311907p1311907.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Qtextended] Roadmap2 - invalid tar magic while installing
Hi, I am trying to install the Roadmap application from http://www.onkelinx.com/qtopia.on.neo/?page_id=4 and on my Freerunner, and am following instructions given therein. However, when I do this: tar -xvpf roadmap2.tgz I get an error message: tar: invalid tar magic. I have also tried it with tar -xvf roadmap2.tgz, but still the same result. I have tested the downloaded file with 7-zip and it seems to be OK. I had read somewhere on a forum that the version of tar shipped by busybox (v1.16.1?) is broken. Is that the case here? Where can I find an unbroken version for Qtextended? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qtextended] Roadmap2 - invalid tar magic while installing
2008/10/9 Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I am trying to install the Roadmap application from http://www.onkelinx.com/qtopia.on.neo/?page_id=4 and on my Freerunner, and am following instructions given therein. However, when I do this: tar -xvpf roadmap2.tgz try tar -xvzf roadmap2.tgz Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qtextended] Roadmap2 - invalid tar magic while installing
When this happened to me (different file, but principle is the same), I found the invalid tar magic occurred quite a way into the file so most of it uncompressed ok. To complete it, I uncompressed it on my desktop then rsynced the two trees. BillK On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 18:18 +0530, Nishit Dave wrote: Hi, I am trying to install the Roadmap application from http://www.onkelinx.com/qtopia.on.neo/?page_id=4 and on my Freerunner, and am following instructions given therein. However, when I do this: tar -xvpf roadmap2.tgz I get an error message: tar: invalid tar magic. I have also tried it with tar -xvf roadmap2.tgz, but still the same result. I have tested the downloaded file with 7-zip and it seems to be OK. I had read somewhere on a forum that the version of tar shipped by busybox (v1.16.1?) is broken. Is that the case here? Where can I find an unbroken version for Qtextended? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qtextended] Roadmap2 - invalid tar magic while installing
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Nicola Mfb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/10/9 Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I am trying to install the Roadmap application from http://www.onkelinx.com/qtopia.on.neo/?page_id=4 and on my Freerunner, and am following instructions given therein. However, when I do this: tar -xvpf roadmap2.tgz try tar -xvzf roadmap2.tgz Nicola, it's working! Thanks a lot. Usage review follows in 3...2...1... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: LED notification
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Norton wrote: 2008/10/9 Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the main cpu is suspended, like in the neo, but the power management unit is not I'm sure I recently read a datasheet for a PMU which supported various flash patterns for LEDs even during suspend. Unfortunately I can't Not really a PMU but an i2c device for just doing that. We might be using one or another in future products, eg, http://www.nxp.com/acrobat_download/datasheets/PCA9632_3.pdf http://www.national.com/ds/LP/LP5521.pdf - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjt29MACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqBvACfUsU+27mrxa98K2HOcQ12fTCj +TwAnAvQ7pxKxMW+pPPStFtorfrdEAjA =qbVL -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Snapshots? Yes, please!
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I think if someone even works out why the headset requires speakerphone mode to be set, and which too only works halfways, that would be a big leap forward. The interference problem is a hardware bug, and looking at the history, it may be one of the hardest ones to be solved through software. Oh, okay, so it is a bit more complicated then. Did you try GPRS? Where and how did you specify the APN? I can't figure it out either. Yes: Setup, Internet, Options, New, GPRS, Account name, APN. I need to investigate more myself. Another thing: I need to be sure that my phone is totally silent: In fact, I hate gadgets that make any sounds. So I have muted sound in the General profile. But when I get a reminder, I would appreciate to have the phone vibrating. In the Calendar, I can choose if the alarm should be none/silent/audible, but audible is for me not a good choice, since I want whatever profile I am using to decide if an alarm results in something audible and/or vibration. What I am suggesting, is to change the word audible to active (or something similar), and make sure the settings in the profile is obeyed when an alarm kicks in. Also, really make sure that the phone is silent when told to. For example, make sure the low battery warning does not make any sound, it's so freakin' embarrassing at the library... -MartinG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qtextended] Roadmap2 - invalid tar magic while installing
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, I am trying to install the Roadmap application from http://www.onkelinx.com/qtopia.on.neo/?page_id=4 and on my Freerunner, and am following instructions given therein. However, when I do this: tar -xvpf roadmap2.tgz I get an error message: tar: invalid tar magic. I have also tried it with tar -xvf roadmap2.tgz, but still the same result. I have tested the downloaded file with 7-zip and it seems to be OK. I had read somewhere on a forum that the version of tar shipped by busybox (v1.16.1?) is broken. Is that the case here? Where can I find an unbroken version for Qtextended? Further, the directory structure inside the roadmap2.tgz archive seems to point to /media/mmcblk0p2, while my card is mounted at /media/card from /dev/mmcblk0p1. I tried to change the directory name inside the archive to point it to /media/card, but it made no difference. So there is a need to check if the version of tar included in qtextended 4.4.1 is indeed broken, and if the directory structure of the archive should be corrected as well. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [QT Extended] Wheel Server problem
AUX button opens a menu, there you can choose the server widget. Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 05:41:54 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: [QT Extended] Wheel Server problem First, congratulations on getting an improved version out the door and thanks for that. However, I didn't get to play around with it too much because I've already managed to mess it up. While trying out the new features in the Home Screen toolkit, I activated Wheel Server. Now when I choose the application icon from the home screen, the icons for the applications normally on the next screen come swooping in from the right side in a circular motion and stop. I can't seem to choose any so I can't remove the Wheel Server function. I didn't load mwester's modules when I flashed QT Extended - is that the cause or is this tool incomplete? Is there a way to reverse this from the command line via usb ssh? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-QT-Extended--Wheel-Server-problem-tp1311907p1311907.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community _ Die neue Generation der Windows Live Services - jetzt downloaden! http://get.live.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Qtextended] Kernel modules from mwester
Hi, I am using the current kernel for qtexended on FR available from mwester. I also downloaded the minimal kernel module set from http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#kernels. The version of the module set and the kernel seems to be matching, but after extracting the modules on my system, I now have two directories under /lib/modules (as I had expected): 2.6.24 (the original kernel) and 2.6.24mw-g291a9d50 (the minimal module set). My question is if I was actually supposed to install the module set, and if so, whether they would be in use, and what difference they are supposed to make. The file names therein match the module names inside the kernel, but the sizes are obviously smaller, so they weren't meant to be a replacement. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] Bluetooth kbd?
Christ van Willegen wrote: On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christ van Willegen wrote: Hi, did anybody have luck with FDOM and a bluetooth keyboard (iGo to be exact). hidd seems to be broken, in that it says 'scanning' and immediately quits... Christ van Willegen It'll do this if bluetooth isn't on and working. Use hciconfig to check this. I turned on Bluetooth in the settings screen (I also tried in the 'services' screen), but I didn't have any luck. Let me try that again... According to both 'Services' and 'Settings', Bluetooth is 'on', but hciconfig returns zilch. Christ van Willegen echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/reset echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/reset wait a few seconds then try hciconfig again. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] Bluetooth kbd?
Christ van Willegen wrote: Hi, did anybody have luck with FDOM and a bluetooth keyboard (iGo to be exact). hidd seems to be broken, in that it says 'scanning' and immediately quits... Christ van Willegen It'll do this if bluetooth isn't on and working. Use hciconfig to check this. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
The best approach to change network configuration from applications.
I'm trying to write a test application that should change the network configuration with a gui, what's the best approach? Manually change /etc/network/interfaces? a wrapper library to do that? dbus api call? Regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] Bluetooth kbd?
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christ van Willegen wrote: On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christ van Willegen wrote: Hi, did anybody have luck with FDOM and a bluetooth keyboard (iGo to be exact). hidd seems to be broken, in that it says 'scanning' and immediately quits... Christ van Willegen It'll do this if bluetooth isn't on and working. Use hciconfig to check this. I turned on Bluetooth in the settings screen (I also tried in the 'services' screen), but I didn't have any luck. Let me try that again... According to both 'Services' and 'Settings', Bluetooth is 'on', but hciconfig returns zilch. Christ van Willegen echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/reset echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/reset Whew, the hard way with the on-screen keyboard and the stylus, but now it _searches_. I don't have the kbd handy, will try this evening... Thanks! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Snapshots? Yes, please!
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 3:57 PM, MartinG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you try GPRS? Where and how did you specify the APN? I can't figure it out either. Yes: Setup, Internet, Options, New, GPRS, Account name, APN. I need to investigate more myself. I rather meant asking how you managed to enter the APN, because on my phone, that option is unclickable / disabled and does not respond to the stylus. I can't even Tab to it with the keyboard, as the keyboard forcibly disappears when you tab across from account name to connection type. Do you specify it in any of the configuration files in /etc/ppp or etc/ppp/peers? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qtextended] Roadmap2 - invalid tar magic while installing
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 6:30 PM, William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: When this happened to me (different file, but principle is the same), I found the invalid tar magic occurred quite a way into the file so most of it uncompressed ok. To complete it, I uncompressed it on my desktop then rsynced the two trees. BillK Thanks. Actually, the whole issue is now moot, as roadmap2 is for QT 4.3.2 and not for Qtextended as Filip Onkelinx told me just now. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] Bluetooth kbd?
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christ van Willegen wrote: Hi, did anybody have luck with FDOM and a bluetooth keyboard (iGo to be exact). hidd seems to be broken, in that it says 'scanning' and immediately quits... Christ van Willegen It'll do this if bluetooth isn't on and working. Use hciconfig to check this. I turned on Bluetooth in the settings screen (I also tried in the 'services' screen), but I didn't have any luck. Let me try that again... According to both 'Services' and 'Settings', Bluetooth is 'on', but hciconfig returns zilch. Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: omview is cool!
Thanks a lot, nice to hear that. I really took care to make the program simply work without fiddling, and it's good to hear this is appreciated. And yes it does not much, show images. 1:1 zoom on click. That's all. No hidden features (Ok aside from raw file support - I'm propably the only one using that). hendrik May I suggest to let the .dirs to be hidden somehow? If you have a lot of applications and you want to navigate through your home it can take a lot of time. Apart from that, really cool! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] Bluetooth kbd?
Christ van Willegen wrote: On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christ van Willegen wrote: On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christ van Willegen wrote: Hi, did anybody have luck with FDOM and a bluetooth keyboard (iGo to be exact). hidd seems to be broken, in that it says 'scanning' and immediately quits... Christ van Willegen It'll do this if bluetooth isn't on and working. Use hciconfig to check this. I turned on Bluetooth in the settings screen (I also tried in the 'services' screen), but I didn't have any luck. Let me try that again... According to both 'Services' and 'Settings', Bluetooth is 'on', but hciconfig returns zilch. Christ van Willegen echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/reset echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-bt.0/reset Whew, the hard way with the on-screen keyboard and the stylus, but now it _searches_. I don't have the kbd handy, will try this evening... Try with the GUI again, and if it causes problems then report a bug as it needs to work reliably. hidd --search picks up my iGo Stowaway without problems. Just press Ctrl-Fn-Fn until the green LED flashes before running it. This method will be disappearing soon though as hidd is deprecated. With luck someone (me?) will write a GUI app to do the job... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The best approach to change network configuration from applications.
Nicola Mfb wrote: 2008/10/9 Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Nicola Mfb wrote: I'm trying to write a test application that should change the network configuration with a gui, what's the best approach? Manually change /etc/network/interfaces? a wrapper library to do that? dbus api call? That depends on which distro you're using, and how complete its network management is. 2008.x is using ConnMan which is an attempt at a lighter weight version of NetworkManager, but it seems rather incomplete. I think FSO is sticking with the basic debian-based interface using /etc/network/interfaces which mostly works according to the debian networking handbook. IIRC the bits needed for roaming connections are Hi Alastair, here a better explanation of what I'd like to do: I'm trying to use dbus with C++/QT under FSO, to test it I'm writing a simple gui that is able to turn on/off the bluetooth adapter, and to spawn a pan connection to my nap gentoo boxes. This is really simple with dbus, and works fine with dbus-send or mdbus, now I'd like to support network configuration to have different pan profiles, with or without dhcp, with or without default routing and so on. Sounds good. So actually should I modify /etc/network/interfaces directly in my application or spawn some external script that does this with sed and after launch ifdown/ifup bnep0? This seems not much elegant to me, and to avoid mistakes on the configuration file, I should read busybox c code to understand how it read that file (a curiosity, there is a doc file in busybox that says please do not use ifup/ifdown approach:)) Debian lets you have multiple configurations for the same interface, so you can have for example different configs for eth0 at home and at work, or for wifi at different locations. I've not dealt with it in depth myself, except for trying to use its wifi roaming config and finding bits of that system missing. The problem become bigger if I want to add a pan server option and so change ip forwarding and iptables rules, launch dhcp or change the its ip range, and so on... What's we may expect in the future? would be nice to have frameworkd offer nice api to hide and abstract all this tasks? should we ask for connman/networkmanager official/default support in OE? OE already has both connman and networkmanager. I built it under fso-testing yesterday but haven't tried it yet. The KDE front end for NetworkManager may be close to what you're aiming at, depending on how much of it is pure Qt and how much KDE. I haven't used networkmanager much so I don't know if it supports configuring bluetooth connections. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: one day usage of qtextended
Lorn Potter wrote: Matt wrote: gtalk uses jabber protocol, so should be doable. Certainly. If telepathy and gabble were available for the Neo's. There's a telepathy-gabble package in OE that seems to build. Is that what you need? Nishit Dave wrote: On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a gtalk presence indicator. Million dollar question: where is gtalk? how do I install and configure it? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Raster+FSO] Some issues
On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 11:50:34 +0200 (CEST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Hello. I have recently installed the new Raster's image, and I was surprised of how beautiful it is, and how well 3D effects work. I want to congratulate rasterman for his work. I decided to give FSO a try, so I installed frameworkd and zhone. Unfortunately, I also have a lot of issues with it (making the phone unusable). I'll try to enumerate: slight problem - never meant to make the illume image a usable phone far from it - it's n ultra-minimal raw desktop only image where i can/will configure e +illume how it really was meant to be used/configured. :) 1 Sound doesn't work well. This is being covered in other mails, so I won't extend here. After installing oss packages, some applications managed to get sound working, but not the calls or ringtones. well sound does - this is a zhone issue specifically - alarm sound works doesn't it? :) so sound works. just some apps don't. 2 Sometimes, the illume controls just dissapear, and I can only access to zhone. You can still see a tiny (one pixel height, I think) noisy band up, but can't do anything with it. Restarting X doesn't work, neither rebooting the phone. The only solution I have found is to delete .e/e directory, but I lose all the configuration (and doesn't last for long). i have never seen this. bizarre. unfortunately - until i see it - it's hard to debug. it doesn't ring any bells as to what it could be. 3 Wifi gadget doesn't work at all. all it does is open the netlink socket and ask the kernel for signal strength of the first wifi dev it finds (fr only has 1)- it does work. i'm staring at it right now. the problem you may see is it's always 100% and this is a driver problem. already reported in trac: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# iwconfig eth0 eth0 AR6000 802.11g ESSID:raster Mode:Managed Frequency:2.437 GHz Access Point: 00:16:01:25:11:44 Bit Rate=54 Mb/s Tx-Power=16 dBm Sensitivity=0/3 Retry:on Encryption key:0102-0304-0506-0708-0901-0203-04 Security mode:open Power Management:off Link Quality:198/94 Signal level:-153 dBm Noise level:-96 dBm Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:1 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:1 (note i manually edited interfaces file and set wireless_essid and key etc.) 4 I can't set a wallpaper. When you select a image, e says you that the wallpaper can't be set because of a conversion error, and then, that file .e/e/fileman/favorites (or something similar) can't be found. I'm very sorry for not giving you the exact error, but I can't test it right now as I have no illume controls (view 2). i know. the wallpaper dialog is useless on the screen res there. intend to redo the e dialog so not only does it work on desktop but looks great on tiny touchscreens. i just haven't gotten there - been busy with other things. no one's paying for this stuff - but they are for other things... so priorities first. btw the error you get is just that i didn't include edje-utils in the image :) again - when i get to fixing the dialogs of course that'd get get added :) 5 Wake up doesn't work. Anytime the phone suspend, I have to turn it off and on again. It seems to poweroff well, so I think the problem is with the screen which doesn't turn on. Only once, I have met the infamous WSOD (first time since I have the phone). same. this is just the kernel OE builds from upstream for OM/gta02. i don't touch it. 6 The alarm doesn't power on the phone, so I'm arriving late at work. i know! :) related to the above i think too as well as a bug in waker code i have fixed locally - but also i think because of some rtc issues. 7 Some application launchers don't appear in the Home menu. At least, the one of the Battle for Wesnoth package, that used to appear on 2008.X . it all depends on application categories. a lot just don't have any or don't have any in the applications.menu file list. i have not even tried to fix/change this. this is the same one FSO ships. my focus is on a container for other things i'm doing and bit by bit polish up pieces and make it better - illume, e17, theme, etc. etc. I think that's all by now. I hope this report help finding bugs. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Raster+FSO] Some issues
Hello. I have recently installed the new Raster's image, and I was surprised of how beautiful it is, and how well 3D effects work. I want to congratulate rasterman for his work. I decided to give FSO a try, so I installed frameworkd and zhone. Unfortunately, I also have a lot of issues with it (making the phone unusable). I'll try to enumerate: 1 Sound doesn't work well. This is being covered in other mails, so I won't extend here. After installing oss packages, some applications managed to get sound working, but not the calls or ringtones. 2 Sometimes, the illume controls just dissapear, and I can only access to zhone. You can still see a tiny (one pixel height, I think) noisy band up, but can't do anything with it. Restarting X doesn't work, neither rebooting the phone. The only solution I have found is to delete .e/e directory, but I lose all the configuration (and doesn't last for long). 3 Wifi gadget doesn't work at all. 4 I can't set a wallpaper. When you select a image, e says you that the wallpaper can't be set because of a conversion error, and then, that file .e/e/fileman/favorites (or something similar) can't be found. I'm very sorry for not giving you the exact error, but I can't test it right now as I have no illume controls (view 2). 5 Wake up doesn't work. Anytime the phone suspend, I have to turn it off and on again. It seems to poweroff well, so I think the problem is with the screen which doesn't turn on. Only once, I have met the infamous WSOD (first time since I have the phone). 6 The alarm doesn't power on the phone, so I'm arriving late at work. 7 Some application launchers don't appear in the Home menu. At least, the one of the Battle for Wesnoth package, that used to appear on 2008.X . I think that's all by now. I hope this report help finding bugs. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Raster+FSO] Silent Zhone
On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 08:41:42 +0200, Richy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arkanoid-Sid Tune ist the ringtone. You need to install gst-sid (Or gst-plugins-sid or similar) to hear that. gst-plugin-sid, still nothing. When a call comes inbound the screen doesn't even undim, and I get no audible ringer regardless of alsa state. (no vibrate either for that matter) If I invoke alsactl /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state restore then in-call audio works (although it's loud and echoing like mad) but no ring. In addition, it continues to work until reboot, or until I manually change alsa state again, so whatever mechanism is supposed to auto-change either isn't working or isn't installed... Where is the Arkanoid sid ringer located, and where is the configuration to tell Zhone what ringtone to use? j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: numptyphisics
good news, i'll try it soon.. On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 6:26 AM, Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have installed the raster type keyboard (with the qwerty button in the upper left) then hit qwerty and then when the keyboard pops up hit the letter 'r' and you should be good to go. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Qtextended] Kernel modules from mwester
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nishit Dave wrote: Hi, I am using the current kernel for qtexended on FR available from mwester. I also downloaded the minimal kernel module set from http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#kernels. The version of the module set and the kernel seems to be matching, but after extracting the modules on my system, I now have two directories under /lib/modules (as I had expected): 2.6.24 (the original kernel) and 2.6.24mw-g291a9d50 (the minimal module set). A given kernel is going to look for its modules down only one path. We have been using these build-specific paths in the git build system for some time, they eliminate the problem that incorrect modules get loaded into kernel space when you change the main kernel binary. I dunno what our packaging side is doing about modules because it's not discussed anywhere that I read. Anyway it's good news mwester is using the same system, it just means that you only actually need the dir that matches the build stamp of the monolithic kernel you are using; any other dirs left lying around don't make any trouble except waste space if you will never revert to the kernel that matches them. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjt7DcACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqymwCfcs6sGhJSWnb6tydDS/SRfJp1 BVwAn2GDr16d9CZlfkKSkxbGKAbLRKlQ =TLS0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: LED notification
2008/10/9 Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the main cpu is suspended, like in the neo, but the power management unit is not I'm sure I recently read a datasheet for a PMU which supported various flash patterns for LEDs even during suspend. Unfortunately I can't remember where I found it or exactly why I was reading it. I have a feeling I may have followed a link on the OM wiki. Did GTA01 have a PMU which supported this? Anyone know what I'm talking about? Robert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The best approach to change network configuration from applications.
2008/10/9 Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nicola Mfb wrote: I'm trying to write a test application that should change the network configuration with a gui, what's the best approach? Manually change /etc/network/interfaces? a wrapper library to do that? dbus api call? That depends on which distro you're using, and how complete its network management is. 2008.x is using ConnMan which is an attempt at a lighter weight version of NetworkManager, but it seems rather incomplete. I think FSO is sticking with the basic debian-based interface using /etc/network/interfaces which mostly works according to the debian networking handbook. IIRC the bits needed for roaming connections are Hi Alastair, here a better explanation of what I'd like to do: I'm trying to use dbus with C++/QT under FSO, to test it I'm writing a simple gui that is able to turn on/off the bluetooth adapter, and to spawn a pan connection to my nap gentoo boxes. This is really simple with dbus, and works fine with dbus-send or mdbus, now I'd like to support network configuration to have different pan profiles, with or without dhcp, with or without default routing and so on. So actually should I modify /etc/network/interfaces directly in my application or spawn some external script that does this with sed and after launch ifdown/ifup bnep0? This seems not much elegant to me, and to avoid mistakes on the configuration file, I should read busybox c code to understand how it read that file (a curiosity, there is a doc file in busybox that says please do not use ifup/ifdown approach:)) The problem become bigger if I want to add a pan server option and so change ip forwarding and iptables rules, launch dhcp or change the its ip range, and so on... What's we may expect in the future? would be nice to have frameworkd offer nice api to hide and abstract all this tasks? should we ask for connman/networkmanager official/default support in OE? Regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Fwd: Re: [Raster+FSO] Some issues]
For some unknown reason, my mail client usually select the list as destinatary when replying, but sometimes it selects the original sender. I didn't notice that I was having this conversation on private with raster. With his permission, I forward it FYI. Mensaje original Asunto: Re: [Raster+FSO] Some issues De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Jue, 9 de Octubre de 2008, 1:06 pm Para: Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- slight problem - never meant to make the illume image a usable phone far from it - it's n ultra-minimal raw desktop only image where i can/will configure e +illume how it really was meant to be used/configured. :) It's ok, raster. I had realized that. This mail is not only for you, but for the commnunity who is willing to use your image a usable phone ;) well sound does - this is a zhone issue specifically - alarm sound works doesn't it? :) so sound works. just some apps don't. Yeah. I think something more has to be installed, but I have no idea. Perhaps someone manage to get it working. 2 Sometimes, the illume controls just dissapear, and I can only access to zhone. You can still see a tiny (one pixel height, I think) noisy band up, but can't do anything with it. Restarting X doesn't work, neither rebooting the phone. The only solution I have found is to delete .e/e directory, but I lose all the configuration (and doesn't last for long). i have never seen this. bizarre. unfortunately - until i see it - it's hard to debug. it doesn't ring any bells as to what it could be. I have to send a picture, but I can't right now. If that helps, first time it happened to me was when I was trying to set other theme than the default. When changing, it got to that state. The other times is after a reboot. Maybe there's a better way to shutdown e than calling 'poweroff'. 3 Wifi gadget doesn't work at all. all it does is open the netlink socket and ask the kernel for signal strength of the first wifi dev it finds (fr only has 1)- it does work. i'm staring at it right now. the problem you may see is it's always 100% and this is a driver problem. already reported in trac: No. That's not my problem. When I press the applet, it shows a nice window, and then you can select wifi, lan, etc. But inside the window you can't see the networks. Then, I press Select Network or something similar, and the window disappears. i know. the wallpaper dialog is useless on the screen res there. intend to redo the e dialog so not only does it work on desktop but looks great on tiny touchscreens. i just haven't gotten there - been busy with other things. no one's paying for this stuff - but they are for other things... so priorities first. btw the error you get is just that i didn't include edje-utils in the image :) again - when i get to fixing the dialogs of course that'd get get added :) Ok. Now I know that it was not intended to work ;) 6 The alarm doesn't power on the phone, so I'm arriving late at work. i know! :) related to the above i think too as well as a bug in waker code i have fixed locally - but also i think because of some rtc issues. Ok. I have just remembered that yesterday, when I powered on the phone, the alarm started to sound. But the alarm window was absolutely blank, so I had to open a terminal, look for the process and kill it. Today it didn't start, but I think that's because issue 2. it all depends on application categories. a lot just don't have any or don't have any in the applications.menu file list. i have not even tried to fix/change this. this is the same one FSO ships. Ok. I'll look it. my focus is on a container for other things i'm doing and bit by bit polish up pieces and make it better - illume, e17, theme, etc. etc. And I think everybody in the community is thankful for that. Just in case, I wasn't trying to blame you for each thing that doesn't work on my phone :) Thanks for your responses. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The best approach to change network configuration from applications.
Nicola Mfb wrote: I'm trying to write a test application that should change the network configuration with a gui, what's the best approach? Manually change /etc/network/interfaces? a wrapper library to do that? dbus api call? That depends on which distro you're using, and how complete its network management is. 2008.x is using ConnMan which is an attempt at a lighter weight version of NetworkManager, but it seems rather incomplete. I think FSO is sticking with the basic debian-based interface using /etc/network/interfaces which mostly works according to the debian networking handbook. IIRC the bits needed for roaming connections are missing though. Debian and Gentoo use their respective networking practices. NetworkManager is another option. The key is to pick one method and stick to it - mixing them usually ends up in them fighting for control of the interfaces. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: mdbus not available - but where?
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer schrieb: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/card# ./gprs-on.sh /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device: ActivateContext failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.Exception Please enable debbuging logs (see the mdbus wiki page on how to do that) and show both the frameworkd log as well as the output of the syslog (where ppp emits its logs), then we can debug further. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community i have done this now: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.frameworkd /org/freesmartphone/Framework org.freesmartphone.Framework.SetDebugLevel ogsmd DEBUG [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.frameworkd /org/freesmartphone/Framework org.freesmartphone.Framework.SetDebugDestination syslog DEBUG but what now? where can i find the logs? i have no idea :( zachso ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QTExtended package repository
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 3:51 AM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles Pax wrote: I'm looking for the package repository for QTExtended. http://qtextended.org/packages/feed/4.4.1/neo does not seem to be there, but this is what is in the package manager I flashed to my neo. Please advise. I haven't gotten around to getting packages built for this. Once the sdk starts building again, I will add packages there. Hi Lorn, Thanks for the great work so far. Can you tell us what to expect in packages? Would it be just updates to the default install, or will there be more packages to choose from? Any hints? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Raster+FSO] Some issues
No. That's not my problem. When I press the applet, it shows a nice window, and then you can select wifi, lan, etc. But inside the window you can't see the networks. Then, I press Select Network or something similar, and the window disappears. eh? u... what applet? the wifi signal meter in illume wont react to a press or run anything... you are pressing on something else! :) You're right. I'm sorry. It was Network Manager. oh no blame taken! just letting you know that i can't just jum in and address issues t the drop of a hat :) I understand that. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OE merge ABI changes
Hi, I have just merged OE-OM for this week, this brings in the OE staging ABI change so I will hold off pushing this patchset until 12:00 GMT on Friday! People will need to rm -rf tmp/ before a build will work. Sorry about this, but its an essential change needed to make arm versions work properly when mixed in the same build. Graeme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[qtextended] After 4 days...
I must say I am quite pleased with the Freerunner and QTextended. Battery life is quite good (much more than 1 day). Do note I don't call much and don't play around with wifi/gprs/gps at the moment. I noticed that plugging in the headset (while in the car for handsfree phone) or listening to music makes the FR switch to plugged in mode, and unplugging the headset did not switch the FR back to unplugged. Did more people notice this? Paul -- Good friends are good for your health. -Irwin Sarason http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
I found it lasted around three hours (moderate usage) BUT I did have Bluetooth and wifi turned on. Will try again tomorrow! Disappointed that it doesn't wake up from suspend on an incoming call - but we can't have everything, can we? 2008/10/9 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] I must say I am quite pleased with the Freerunner and QTextended. Battery life is quite good (much more than 1 day). Do note I don't call much and don't play around with wifi/gprs/gps at the moment. I noticed that plugging in the headset (while in the car for handsfree phone) or listening to music makes the FR switch to plugged in mode, and unplugging the headset did not switch the FR back to unplugged. Did more people notice this? Paul -- Good friends are good for your health. -Irwin Sarason http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Russ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 17:48, Russell Hay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found it lasted around three hours (moderate usage) BUT I did have Bluetooth and wifi turned on. Will try again tomorrow! Disappointed that it doesn't wake up from suspend on an incoming call - but we can't have everything, can we? Wake up on call /sms works pretty well for me. Still a lot of problems though (as reported by others too) Battery life is not too bad... even if sometimes it is suddenly emptied really quickly (even if I did not try to use wifi/bluetooth). And I often have to reboot into qtopia 4.3.2 just to force my GSM to register to my operator (once it has switch to roaming operator it comes into a very erratic behaviour and can't register elsewhere...) Also there is still the bug in vibrate only mode... when called it begins vibrating and only a shutdown can stop it... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [FDOM] Bluetooth kbd?
I have had no trouble connecting to my iGo bluetooth keyboard initially. However, after a suspend I have noticed that bluetooth will no longer work. Perhaps the device never gets powered back on? Has anyone else noticed this? A nice zenity gui for connecting to bluetooth keyboards (or really anything bluetooth) was written by ScaredyCat a while back. I use it and it works great! (see www.bufferunderflow.com?entry=6 for pics and a quick video using the keyboard) Get btkb at: http://projects.openmoko.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/app_btkb/?rev=14amp;root=scutil -Dan Staley ___ From: Christ van Willegen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 7:41 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: [FDOM] Bluetooth kbd? On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christ van Willegen wrote: Hi, did anybody have luck with FDOM and a bluetooth keyboard (iGo to be exact). hidd seems to be broken, in that it says 'scanning' and immediately quits... Christ van Willegen It'll do this if bluetooth isn't on and working. Use hciconfig to check this. I turned on Bluetooth in the settings screen (I also tried in the 'services' screen), but I didn't have any luck. Let me try that again... According to both 'Services' and 'Settings', Bluetooth is 'on', but hciconfig returns zilch. Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable
Sarton O'Brien wrote: On Thursday 09 October 2008 11:50:14 Steve Mosher wrote: well since this is wifi specific it needs to be referenced in the wifi section. If I had the wifi problem THAT would be the first place I looked. or in the known problem section. I can't say I'm extremely familiar with the wiki but I imagine there is a troubleshooting section? With possibly a FAQ? I think a link to the selected blogs page would be valuable in such a place along with a link on the wiki index. All things wifi, including known issues and a link to Tom's article, are here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Wifi As blogs tend be general, linking specifically within wifi might not be appropriate but a link to the troubleshooting page within wifi that then allows you to choose internal or external sources of information sounds better and keeps the non-official documentation contained and a little more consolidated for all areas of troubleshooting. For actual wiki content this isn't a problem but it would allow for an actual troubleshooting index of wiki approved content as well. I imagine linking directly, even if only to the selected blogs page, may require more maintenance down the track as online information is pretty fluid and relevance can change pretty quickly. If the site disappeared you'd have to modify more than one page to accommodate it. Having two primary links, faqs and troubleshooting, seems less confusing and easier to maintain to me. Just a thought :) Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
2008/10/9 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also there is still the bug in vibrate only mode... when called it begins vibrating and only a shutdown can stop it... sorry - but I just creased up when I read that - haven't come across that bug yet! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable
Xavier Bestel wrote: On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 16:19 -0700, Michael Shiloh wrote: Just did that. I reorganized the WLAN page and incoporated a number of community suggestions, including Tom's. In particular, this should work for most people: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Wifi#Using_iwconfig_manually Feedback and other working examples appreciated. Is feedback by mail ok ? It is my favorite method actually :-) I always use the manual iwconfig+udhcpc method. It works most of the time right after reboot, but often looses the network after a few minutes (sometimes it works for hals an hour). After that, redoing the iwconfig sometimes works, sometimes not and another reboot is in order. Very interesting. Do you kill udhcpc in between invokations? I think it's a daemon. Of course the real issue is why in looses the connection. I presume you have suspend disabled? Have you tried a different channel? One of my neighbors is on a close channel and things got better when I changed my AP to an unused channel. iwlist is a great help here. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Wifi#Disable_power_management suggests that power management caused problems. You might try this too. Please let us know what works and what doesn't. Better yet add it to the wiki. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] State of annoying memory card corruption bug?
Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The kernel shipped with debian has the corruption bug. To update your kernel you must do it by hand. The instruction how to do this is in the debian page in the openmoko wiki [1]. I changed my /boot partition from vfat to ext2 and symlink the boot-kernel to the one i want to use because i switch between the actual OM and FSO kernels. I followed the instructions and installed a new kernel. I still get the corruption bug whenever I shut down the FR unexpectedly. Ciao, Rainer [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#How_to_replace_the_default_kernel_with_a_recent_openmoko_kernel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which kernel and from when do you use? This bug should be fixed in newer kernels. But i still use the apm suspend/resume script which works for me since i installed debian. Ok, how do I ensure I have a newer kernel? I just use the kernel shipped with Debian, I think. Ciao, Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is rather annoying to fix the memory card whenever it gets corrupted and wont boot. I know there are workaround scripts, but they dont work for me, since I most often get corruption after booting after unexpected power down. Is there any progress on this bug? Any working workarounds ? -- Joakim Verona ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
Disappointed that it doesn't wake up from suspend on an incoming call - but we can't have everything, can we? We can't. But I think this feature is essential! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
What vesion did you use? I could not install the stable one, as I didn't want the echo problem. Hearing EVERYONE say I can hear myself as if there's something I can do about it, is very annoying. After I installed QTExtended I tried a few settings. I tried activating the wheel thing. It crashed. And it didn't want to start qtopia again. I had to reflash. Second time I pressed the telephone icon on the main screen. It crashed. It didn't want to start qtopia again. I was at work, so I couldn't reflash, I just deleted a few files and it came back. Now I come home and I see my phone is shut off. I try to start it again, but it does absolutely nothing. Nothing! It's as if it's bricked. Then I plugged in my USB cable and I saw it boot. Although, qtopia didn't want to start again. When I remove the cable and shut the phone off again (even though it never really boot up) it won't start by pressing the button again. I guess I'll have to reflash again! It's a shame, beyond these unbelievably bad crashes it's really very easy fast to use. /Met vriendelijke groeten,/ *Jelle De Loecker* Kipdola Studios - Tomberg Paul schreef: I must say I am quite pleased with the Freerunner and QTextended. Battery life is quite good (much more than 1 day). Do note I don't call much and don't play around with wifi/gprs/gps at the moment. I noticed that plugging in the headset (while in the car for handsfree phone) or listening to music makes the FR switch to plugged in mode, and unplugging the headset did not switch the FR back to unplugged. Did more people notice this? Paul ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
Jelle De Loecker wrote: What vesion did you use? Qtextended 4.4.2 and uImage-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.bin I could not install the stable one, as I didn't want the echo problem. Hearing EVERYONE say I can hear myself as if there's something I can do about it, is very annoying. I heard today that turning down the speaker volume should fix this somewhat. Problem is that, after a reboot, this is set to max again. I intend to have a look at some files and see if I can incorporate a dirty hack for the time being, to fix this. No promises that this will bring anything, though. After I installed QTExtended I tried a few settings. I tried activating the wheel thing. It crashed. And it didn't want to start qtopia again. I had to reflash. I know about the wheel not working. I reflashed also, but learnt later that hitting the AUX button would have fixed the problem. You live and learn. Second time I pressed the telephone icon on the main screen. It crashed. It didn't want to start qtopia again. I was at work, so I couldn't reflash, I just deleted a few files and it came back. Now I come home and I see my phone is shut off. I try to start it again, but it does absolutely nothing. Nothing! It's as if it's bricked. ... I guess I'll have to reflash again! It's a shame, beyond these unbelievably bad crashes it's really very easy fast to use. Too bad you're experiencing all that crap! Maybe try an older image like 4.3.2 ? (Just an idea, I own the freerunner for almost a full week now...) /Met vriendelijke groeten,/ En vriendelijke groeten terug... Paul -- Good friends are good for your health. -Irwin Sarason http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
Cédric Berger wrote: On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 17:48, Russell Hay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found it lasted around three hours (moderate usage) BUT I did have Bluetooth and wifi turned on. Will try again tomorrow! Disappointed that it doesn't wake up from suspend on an incoming call - but we can't have everything, can we Wake up on call /sms works pretty well for me. Also for me. Actually it did that 3 minutes ago again! Also there is still the bug in vibrate only mode... when called it begins vibrating and only a shutdown can stop it... shudder That is not nice. Paul -- Good friends are good for your health. -Irwin Sarason http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] State of annoying memory card corruption bug?
What do you mean by shut down unexpectedly ? The sd-card corruption patch which is in the recent kernels fixes the sd-bug when going into suspend and resume which isn't unexpected. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The kernel shipped with debian has the corruption bug. To update your kernel you must do it by hand. The instruction how to do this is in the debian page in the openmoko wiki [1]. I changed my /boot partition from vfat to ext2 and symlink the boot-kernel to the one i want to use because i switch between the actual OM and FSO kernels. I followed the instructions and installed a new kernel. I still get the corruption bug whenever I shut down the FR unexpectedly. Ciao, Rainer [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#How_to_replace_the_default_kernel_with_a_recent_openmoko_kernel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which kernel and from when do you use? This bug should be fixed in newer kernels. But i still use the apm suspend/resume script which works for me since i installed debian. Ok, how do I ensure I have a newer kernel? I just use the kernel shipped with Debian, I think. Ciao, Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is rather annoying to fix the memory card whenever it gets corrupted and wont boot. I know there are workaround scripts, but they dont work for me, since I most often get corruption after booting after unexpected power down. Is there any progress on this bug? Any working workarounds ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
I heard today that turning down the speaker volume should fix this somewhat. Problem is that, after a reboot, this is set to max again. I intend to have a look at some files and see if I can incorporate a dirty hack for the time being, to fix this. No promises that this will bring anything, though. Right. No fix, since I don't see a place where I could grab it in the neck. I did find that the phone volume setting is in /home/root/Settings/Trolltech/Phone.conf. Somehow, after a reboot, the setting of this file is not used and implemented, but some default setting is used. I found the default Qtopia Phone.conf and played around with that, but to no avail. After a reboot the speaker volume is at 127 (max), not at 90 (which is in the Phone.conf in $HOME/Settings/Trolltech/Phone.conf). After just looking at the setting, Phone.conf is updated already, overwriting the preferred setting. Paul -- Good friends are good for your health. -Irwin Sarason http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] State of annoying memory card corruption bug?
Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do you mean by shut down unexpectedly ? The sd-card corruption patch which is in the recent kernels fixes the sd-bug when going into suspend and resume which isn't unexpected. Ok, what I mean is that if the FR hangs for some reason, looses power or whatever, I must powercycle it to reboot it. When this happens the debian part of the sd card is unbootable. I can then normally rescue it with testdisk. I dont think I ever even tried suspend/resume on debian. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The kernel shipped with debian has the corruption bug. To update your kernel you must do it by hand. The instruction how to do this is in the debian page in the openmoko wiki [1]. I changed my /boot partition from vfat to ext2 and symlink the boot-kernel to the one i want to use because i switch between the actual OM and FSO kernels. I followed the instructions and installed a new kernel. I still get the corruption bug whenever I shut down the FR unexpectedly. Ciao, Rainer [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#How_to_replace_the_default_kernel_with_a_recent_openmoko_kernel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which kernel and from when do you use? This bug should be fixed in newer kernels. But i still use the apm suspend/resume script which works for me since i installed debian. Ok, how do I ensure I have a newer kernel? I just use the kernel shipped with Debian, I think. Ciao, Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is rather annoying to fix the memory card whenever it gets corrupted and wont boot. I know there are workaround scripts, but they dont work for me, since I most often get corruption after booting after unexpected power down. Is there any progress on this bug? Any working workarounds ? -- Joakim Verona ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Freerunner won't boot without USB cable after QTextended crash
Hi everyone, I installed QTextended yesterday. I loved how snappy it was and how good it worked overall. But some things went wrong. Pressing some buttons crashed qpe. When I came home today I discovered my phone was completely off. I tried to start it up again, but it didn't work. The only way I got any life out of it was by attaching the usb cable and trying again. And that's the way it still is. If I want to boot up my phone, I have to attach it to the usb cable or it won't do ANYTHING. I have already flashed u-boot, I have installed the 4.3.2 version of qtopia, reflashed uImage aswell, still won't work. -- /Met vriendelijke groeten,/ *Jelle De Loecker* Kipdola Studios - Tomberg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The best approach to change network configuration from applications.
Am Donnerstag, den 09.10.2008, 11:24 +0200 schrieb Nicola Mfb: I'm trying to write a test application that should change the network configuration with a gui, what's the best approach? Manually change /etc/network/interfaces? a wrapper library to do that? dbus api call? Networking is on scope for FSO, but will be tackled not before end of this year. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable
Le jeudi 09 octobre 2008 à 09:10 -0700, Michael Shiloh a écrit : Xavier Bestel wrote: I always use the manual iwconfig+udhcpc method. It works most of the time right after reboot, but often looses the network after a few minutes (sometimes it works for hals an hour). After that, redoing the iwconfig sometimes works, sometimes not and another reboot is in order. Very interesting. Do you kill udhcpc in between invokations? I think it's a daemon. Yes (in fact I tried both ways). Of course the real issue is why in looses the connection. I presume you have suspend disabled? Yes. Have you tried a different channel? One of my neighbors is on a close channel and things got better when I changed my AP to an unused channel. iwlist is a great help here. I didn't try that, but every other wifi device had no problem so far. Changing the channel on the other end is a bit tricky. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Wifi#Disable_power_management suggests that power management caused problems. You might try this too. I tried that long ago, thought I found the magic bullet at first, but nowadays it seems it doesn nothing. Please let us know what works and what doesn't. Better yet add it to the wiki. HTH, Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
Paul wrote: I heard today that turning down the speaker volume should fix this somewhat. Problem is that, after a reboot, this is set to max again. I intend to have a look at some files and see if I can incorporate a dirty hack for the time being, to fix this. No promises that this will bring anything, though. Right. No fix, since I don't see a place where I could grab it in the neck. I did find that the phone volume setting is in /home/root/Settings/Trolltech/Phone.conf. Somehow, after a reboot, the setting of this file is not used and implemented, but some default setting is used. I found the default Qtopia Phone.conf and played around with that, but to no avail. After a reboot the speaker volume is at 127 (max), not at 90 (which is in the Phone.conf in $HOME/Settings/Trolltech/Phone.conf). After just looking at the setting, Phone.conf is updated already, overwriting the preferred setting. Paul You can do this to twiddle with volumes: alsactl restore -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarious/stereout.state alsamixer alsactl store -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarious/stereout.state this goes for any of the files in there, like gsmhandset.state -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Qt Software, Nokia Pty Ltd ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR adapter - shocking experience!
It might be a case of the transformator working in reverse: A small voltage applied to the usb output leads to a high voltage at the prongs. This could also be caused by a capacitator on the low voltage end, but I am not sure. Just guessing here. However, if you were to touch the prongs the moment they were out of the socket, the coil could still hold some potential to shock you. Also just guessing. Thorben 2008/10/9 Christ van Willegen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, this morning, I pulled the FR adapter out of the (230 VAC) socket, and accidentally touched one of the prongs. I experienced a short shock. Is there a capacitor in there that can do that? It was fully out of the socket when I touched it! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
Hello Lorn, You can do this to twiddle with volumes: alsactl restore -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarious/stereout.state alsamixer alsactl store -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarious/stereout.stat Magic! Thank you! New toys to play with. :-) Paul -- Good friends are good for your health. -Irwin Sarason http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR adapter - shocking experience!
Hi, Am Donnerstag 09. Oktober 2008 9:36:26 am schrieb Christ van Willegen: this morning, I pulled the FR adapter out of the (230 VAC) socket, and accidentally touched one of the prongs. I experienced a short shock. I can confirm that. I had the same feeling this morning, too. Greetings, Carsten -- Hier ist mein öffentlicher GPG-Schlüssel: http://daswaldhorn.funpic.de/gpg.html = www.stopptdievorratsdatenspeicherung.de signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Charging and USB host mode
Hi, I think I am having a problem with my FR. i put it in USB host mode using Debian and Sephora. Then, I guess the battery emtied, and now even with the Power adapter plugged in it is not starting at all. Could it be that it is not charging because it is still in USB host mode? Any help would be appreciated. /peter GTalk:neubauer.peter Skypepeter.neubauer ICQ18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software. http://www.qi4j.org- New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: omview is cool!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May I suggest to let the .dirs to be hidden somehow? If you have a lot of applications and you want to navigate through your home it can take a lot of time. yes, i want sugest this also. and while we are at it. i would prefere to let it start in $HOME and/or remember the last directory it was in. thanx, ... clemens ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: omview is cool!
Am Thursday 09 October 2008 21:20:42 schrieb Clemens Kirchgatterer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May I suggest to let the .dirs to be hidden somehow? If you have a lot of applications and you want to navigate through your home it can take a lot of time. yes, i want sugest this also. and while we are at it. i would prefere to let it start in $HOME and/or remember the last directory it was in. Yep, that would be useful. :) -Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] State of annoying memory card corruption bug?
I don't think that this behaviour is a real software bug because this situation shouldn't happen at all. So i don't think that there could be some patch to really fix this. And for me these situations you describe nearly never exist. The problem that the FR hangs occured for me only when the memory usage gets to the limit of the 128MB. But since i use a 64MB swapfile i never experienced it again. And my FR never loosed power since i got it. So i'm wondering what things you do to your FR. ;) I never lost my partition table and i only use debian for quite some weeks. Anbd i'm happy that the current OM kernel works with suspend/resume without problems. Ciao, Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do you mean by shut down unexpectedly ? The sd-card corruption patch which is in the recent kernels fixes the sd-bug when going into suspend and resume which isn't unexpected. Ok, what I mean is that if the FR hangs for some reason, looses power or whatever, I must powercycle it to reboot it. When this happens the debian part of the sd card is unbootable. I can then normally rescue it with testdisk. I dont think I ever even tried suspend/resume on debian. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The kernel shipped with debian has the corruption bug. To update your kernel you must do it by hand. The instruction how to do this is in the debian page in the openmoko wiki [1]. I changed my /boot partition from vfat to ext2 and symlink the boot-kernel to the one i want to use because i switch between the actual OM and FSO kernels. I followed the instructions and installed a new kernel. I still get the corruption bug whenever I shut down the FR unexpectedly. Ciao, Rainer [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#How_to_replace_the_default_kernel_with_a_recent_openmoko_kernel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which kernel and from when do you use? This bug should be fixed in newer kernels. But i still use the apm suspend/resume script which works for me since i installed debian. Ok, how do I ensure I have a newer kernel? I just use the kernel shipped with Debian, I think. Ciao, Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is rather annoying to fix the memory card whenever it gets corrupted and wont boot. I know there are workaround scripts, but they dont work for me, since I most often get corruption after booting after unexpected power down. Is there any progress on this bug? Any working workarounds ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR adapter - shocking experience!
Carsten Gerlach wrote: Hi, Am Donnerstag 09. Oktober 2008 9:36:26 am schrieb Christ van Willegen: this morning, I pulled the FR adapter out of the (230 VAC) socket, and accidentally touched one of the prongs. I experienced a short shock. I can confirm that. I had the same feeling this morning, too. This is a nice way to better wake up in the morning. :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] State of annoying memory card corruption bug?
Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think that this behaviour is a real software bug because this situation shouldn't happen at all. So i don't think that there could be some patch to really fix this. And for me these situations you describe nearly never exist. The problem that the FR hangs occured for me only when the memory usage gets to the limit of the 128MB. But since i use a 64MB swapfile i never experienced it again. And my FR never loosed power since i got it. So i'm wondering what things you do to your FR. ;) Bad things I suppose :) The swap file sounds like a good idea. Did you put the swap partition on the internal flash or the sd card? Intuitively it would appear to be better to have the swap on internal flash, if the main os is on the sd card. I never lost my partition table and i only use debian for quite some weeks. Anbd i'm happy that the current OM kernel works with suspend/resume without problems. Ciao, Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do you mean by shut down unexpectedly ? The sd-card corruption patch which is in the recent kernels fixes the sd-bug when going into suspend and resume which isn't unexpected. Ok, what I mean is that if the FR hangs for some reason, looses power or whatever, I must powercycle it to reboot it. When this happens the debian part of the sd card is unbootable. I can then normally rescue it with testdisk. I dont think I ever even tried suspend/resume on debian. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The kernel shipped with debian has the corruption bug. To update your kernel you must do it by hand. The instruction how to do this is in the debian page in the openmoko wiki [1]. I changed my /boot partition from vfat to ext2 and symlink the boot-kernel to the one i want to use because i switch between the actual OM and FSO kernels. I followed the instructions and installed a new kernel. I still get the corruption bug whenever I shut down the FR unexpectedly. Ciao, Rainer [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#How_to_replace_the_default_kernel_with_a_recent_openmoko_kernel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which kernel and from when do you use? This bug should be fixed in newer kernels. But i still use the apm suspend/resume script which works for me since i installed debian. Ok, how do I ensure I have a newer kernel? I just use the kernel shipped with Debian, I think. Ciao, Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is rather annoying to fix the memory card whenever it gets corrupted and wont boot. I know there are workaround scripts, but they dont work for me, since I most often get corruption after booting after unexpected power down. Is there any progress on this bug? Any working workarounds ? -- Joakim Verona ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR adapter - shocking experience!
hahaha. We should find the way to send a litle shock when trying to snooze the alarm three times. :-) Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - Fox Mulder escribió: Carsten Gerlach wrote: Hi, Am Donnerstag 09. Oktober 2008 9:36:26 am schrieb Christ van Willegen: this morning, I pulled the FR adapter out of the (230 VAC) socket, and accidentally touched one of the prongs. I experienced a short shock. I can confirm that. I had the same feeling this morning, too. This is a nice way to better wake up in the morning. :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: omview is cool!
2008/10/9 Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Thursday 09 October 2008 21:20:42 schrieb Clemens Kirchgatterer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May I suggest to let the .dirs to be hidden somehow? If you have a lot of applications and you want to navigate through your home it can take a lot of time. yes, i want sugest this also. and while we are at it. i would prefere to let it start in $HOME and/or remember the last directory it was in. Yep, that would be useful. :) Ok hide hidden files is in svn. To remeber the last used directory or to have a home directory I need to add configuration files. I'll do this and also add configuration of everything else, but this will take some time I don't have :(. But don't worry it will come. For now you can instead add your start directory to the desktop file. Like this: In file /usr/share/applications/omview.desktop ... Exec=omview --ewl-evas-xrender-x11 --ewl-theme ewl_om /home/user/Documents ... hendrik ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] Bluetooth kbd?
Cool. I went looking for this a while ago, but couldn't find it... Two questions: Does anyone have an ipk for zenity? Has anyone got the iGo running using a PIN? Chur, Rich 2008/10/10 Staley, Daniel L [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have had no trouble connecting to my iGo bluetooth keyboard initially. However, after a suspend I have noticed that bluetooth will no longer work. Perhaps the device never gets powered back on? Has anyone else noticed this? A nice zenity gui for connecting to bluetooth keyboards (or really anything bluetooth) was written by ScaredyCat a while back. I use it and it works great! (see www.bufferunderflow.com?entry=6 for pics and a quick video using the keyboard) Get btkb at: http://projects.openmoko.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/app_btkb/?rev=14amp;root=scutil -Dan Staley ___ From: Christ van Willegen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 7:41 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: [FDOM] Bluetooth kbd? On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christ van Willegen wrote: Hi, did anybody have luck with FDOM and a bluetooth keyboard (iGo to be exact). hidd seems to be broken, in that it says 'scanning' and immediately quits... Christ van Willegen It'll do this if bluetooth isn't on and working. Use hciconfig to check this. I turned on Bluetooth in the settings screen (I also tried in the 'services' screen), but I didn't have any luck. Let me try that again... According to both 'Services' and 'Settings', Bluetooth is 'on', but hciconfig returns zilch. Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] Bluetooth kbd?
2008/10/10 Richard Guest [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Two questions: Does anyone have an ipk for zenity? http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] Bluetooth kbd?
2008/10/10 Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/10/10 Richard Guest [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Two questions: Does anyone have an ipk for zenity? sorry, i meant http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/armv4t/zenity_2.20.1-r0_armv4t.ipk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Using a webcam on the Openmoko
Hi community, I just wanted to let you know that I got a webcam to work on my Freerunner. I have written some instructions on the official wiki in both English and French: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Webcam It could be made much easier already by enabling video input support by default in the official kernel builds. I'll file a bug for this next thing. HTH, -- Pierre Pronchery, Hackable devices RD, Bearstech email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]42 boulevard Sébastopol PGP: AE49 5F7D D56A 4BD6 7B1F 75003 Paris, France 8655 125C 0FE6 5566 EBD8 Web: http://bearstech.com Phone: +49 177 472 7481 Phone: +33 6 71 62 42 74 Fax: +49 304 208 1861 Fax: +33 1 42 72 20 03 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Raster+FSO] Silent Zhone
You are describing a bug. I opened two tickets about that, #174, which describes your situation and is closed, and the next one, #176, which another one altogether :-). You can find them on trac.freesmartphone.org. -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Charging and USB host mode
Michele Renda wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter... I think it will be better, if you remove the host mode from your Freerunner. Until now, no one reported damaging of his FR when putted to recharge in host mode, but I think it will be better to don't be the first one :) I am pretty sure that FR will not charge when in host mode. I think that your phone simply remained without battery. That is correct. In normal host mode the FR will not charge. Details at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_host ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable
On Friday 10 October 2008 03:05:07 Michael Shiloh wrote: All things wifi, including known issues and a link to Tom's article, are here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Wifi Yep, but my point was that Tom's article covers way more than wifi and therefore could be indexed under multiple troubleshooting categories, along with other external sources. Currently you would have to access each applicable wiki area and add the link, then do the same when the link changes. Rather than than say 'this person did this here', why not say 'see the wifi section in troubleshooting' and have a small write up for each link? There's no problem with linking haphazardly, it just eliminates a single point of maintenance. This is just my view, no need to reply with any links, unless it to a troubleshooting index ;) ... I may even compile one up myself for personal use as I only use the wiki for troubleshooting and I tend to do more reading and searching than anything else. Something like this would be easy to create on the fly. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using a webcam on the Openmoko
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Pierre Pronchery [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I just wanted to let you know that I got a webcam to work on my Freerunner. I have written some instructions on the official wiki in both English and French: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Webcam Massively cool. -Charles Pax ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Accelerometer question
Hi, Big question: Are the accelerometers constantly draining battery life? or... The rate at which they feed me data only starts up when the file handle is opened, and stops when it's closed? If it's the first case, then the init scripts should shut both accelerometers down as soon as possible, and software that uses them should turn them on as needed. I'm just wondering, because my 1 year old Nokia 2670 just lasted a whole week in idle on an 700mAh battery, and OpenMoko lasts only about 8/9 hours in idle with a 1200mAh battery. It is nuts, we all know that, but I'm more interested right now into extending battery life, as it is my single greatest problem with OpenMoko right now. Yes, the software still has edges too rough for non Free Software passionate developers, but at least for me it is usable enough as a daily phone except for battery life. Great job so far guys! :) Rui -- Pzat! Today is Pungenday, the 64th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OE merge ABI changes
On Thu, Oct 09, 2008 at 11:55:09AM +0100, Graeme Gregory wrote: Hi, I have just merged OE-OM for this week, this brings in the OE staging ABI change so I will hold off pushing this patchset until 12:00 GMT on Friday! People will need to rm -rf tmp/ before a build will work. Sorry about this, but its an essential change needed to make arm versions work properly when mixed in the same build. Will 2.6.26 finally land in? I'm particularly interested in the effect of the tickless Linux patch on battery life. Rui -- Or not. Today is Pungenday, the 64th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: The best approach to change network configuration from applications.
Hi Michele, reading you message you told that in a future is possible that fso framework will manage network interface too. Is correct to think that I can use the fso dbus interface to manage wireless? DBus yes. At this point of time it's still unclear how much FSO will have to do on their own in the network space and how much it can delegate to one of the existing connection managers. I'm leaning towards just a bunch of simple high level calls like: * Setup the fastest IP connection and notify me when it's up * Setup the cheapest IP connectoin and notify me when it's up * Tell me about devices in vincinity * Send a file to a device delegating all the hard work to other software. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using a webcam on the Openmoko
Amazing work, Pierre. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometer question
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:01:14 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Big question: Are the accelerometers constantly draining battery life? or... The rate at which they feed me data only starts up when the file handle is opened, and stops when it's closed? If it's the first case, then the init scripts should shut both accelerometers down as soon as possible, and software that uses them should turn them on as needed. AFAIK by default they're always powered up. Certainly apart from the times I hit 'dead accelerometers' that took a few reflashes to get going again, I've never had to power them up unless I'd previously powered down. According to the datasheet at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ST_LIS302DL: Symbol Parameter Test conditions Min.Max.Unit Idd Supply current T = 25°C, ODR=100Hz 0.3 0.4 mA IddPdn Current consumption in T = 25°C 1 5 μA power-down mode So the power draw is pretty low, both together being less than one milliamp. I suspect that frameworkd will be able to shut them down automatically if nothing needs them, once accel support is incorporated. (IIRC it does that now for other subsystems, like gps) j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Raster+FSO] Silent Zhone
On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 23:52:18 +0200, Julien Cassignol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are describing a bug. I opened two tickets about that, #174, which describes your situation and is closed, and the next one, #176, which another one altogether :-). You can find them on trac.freesmartphone.org. This is good news, #174 fixed and in the chute. I was just about to pluck my SIM and stick it back in my old phone, now I think I'll hold off and see if it shows up in the unstable feed soon. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Raster] safe repo?
What package feeds are safe to use with the Raster image? (what about Raster plus frameworkd zhone?) I bricked my FR a few times making the mistake of doing opkg upgrade against the FSO-unstable feed I set up to get frameworkd and zhone. As long as I manually opkg what I want from that feed I'm fine, but an 'opkg upgrade tries to replace most of E - Enlightenment segv's a couple times, and on shutdown/reboot it hangs (often with an unclickable segv alter onscreen) and I can remain SSH'd to it, where I see exquisite-write sucking up 95%+ CPU. If I manage to shut down at that point, booting freezes when the kernel is up and the first boot progress screen comes up - I see the 'E' logo and an vertical white line marking the leftmost edge of the progress bar. Brick. (unfortunately I was doing all this with a reconstruction script right after flashing, so it took me a couple reflashes to realize I was causing the problem ;) j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
car charger
Just wanted to post that I received http://www.cross-mark.com/charger-adapter-black-1000mah-p-962.html in the mail today. The FreeRunner automatically kicks into 1000ma charge mode. :) Best $3.00 (delivered) I've spent in a while. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
3G and FR
Hi there, http://anuradha.sayura.net/2008/04/mobitel-3g-with-huawei-e220-on-debian.html seems to be a good addition to the OpenMoko Wiki if it isn't there already? Will try it as soon as I get my FR back into working state. /peter GTalk:neubauer.peter Skypepeter.neubauer ICQ18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software. http://www.qi4j.org- New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
