Re: [om2008-testing] illume-config-illume + illume-theme-illume + illume
John Lee schrieb: On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 12:29:40PM +1100, Sarton O'Brien wrote: Hey all, Been out of the loop for a few weeks and decided to see if testing was working again. After updating I had the icons issue and used the combination of: illume-config-illume + illume-theme-illume + illume Which seems to be working except that when prompted to enter my pin I get the SEGV error popup. It seems to coincide with the keyboard popping up but that may be coincidence. At one point I saw this on the console: enlightenment: malloc(): memory corruption I don't have the entire message but it's probably unimportant. Everything else seems fine, it's just when prompted for my pin. Any ideas? Sarton seems like #1767 to me. a temporary workaround will be using software engine instead of software_16. you can find this option in configuration (wrench) - engine - John ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community works for me. thx. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2008.9] dropbear hangs on exit
Hello, I encounter from time to time that on SSH to the FR via the USB network the SSH-connection on exit does not terminate; a next SSH-connection (from another xterm) is possible, but does hang as well on exit; I've look into the details strace'ing the /usr/sbin/dropbear child proc and it turns out that it hangs in a wait(2) syscall waiting indefinitely for something; before debugging this further: is this a known issue? or is it even more advised to install some opensshd? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian][neo1973] Forwarding GSM port to PC
You can use the nc/pty combination for that as described in http://unadventure.wordpress.com/2007/10/28/qpe-430-plus-qemu/ Note though that due to some weird bug this doesn't work for multiplexing mode :/ -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] Answer calll problems
El jue, 06-11-2008 a las 15:46 -0800, Gothnet escribió: Well colour me impressed. I've had a play with android on the Freerunner and (no disrespect to the openmoko guys) it's renewed my faith that the device will some day be useable as a phone. To increase a little more your believes , imagine you can have the best of the two worlds, as Rasterman has said before is possible to have in future(and seeing the rhythm this community works, in near future) android+gtk+java+qt+e17 apps living peacefully together in this little device. Managed to get it running, import contacts from the SIM and make calls, with acceptable volume and none of the echo that the OM distros suffered from. There's a lot that's not working (receive calls for instance) but this looks really good guys. Kudos and thanks. -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400 Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2008.9] hints and results about using GPS on/with FR
Hello, In the last days (nights :-)) I did some tests with GPS on my FR and here are the results in compact form; HIH matthias ... 12. GPS Install the following packages: # opkg install gpsd # opkg install http://www.tangogps.org/downloads/tangogps_0.9.3-r1_armv4t.ipk # opkg install openmoko-agpsui # opkg install gpsdcontrol_0.3_all.opk The last one (gpsdcontrol) removes the starting of the 'gpsd' from the boot run-level, which is a good idea at all for saving power; One must edit the /etc/default/gpsd to point it to the correct serial device of the GSM antenna: # vi /etc/default/gpsd GPS_DEV=/dev/ttySAC1 gpsdcontrol as well powers on the GSM antenna by writing '1' to the drivers file; you could do this as well (and you should if you don't use gpsdcontrol) in the gpsd start script /etc/init.d/gpsd in the start/stop sequence, writing '1' on start and '0' on stop; echo 1 /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron in any case you must correct a bug in the /etc/init.d/gpsd which tries to kill the gpsd, but kills to the running script itself; change: killall gpsd by: pgrep -x gpsd | grep -v $$ | xargs -r kill The installed tool openmoko-agpsui allows you to check if your GSM antenna and chip work fine; some notes about this, GSM and TTFF: - openmoko-agpsui does not need the 'gpsd' to be started and it goes out of the way if some application (like tangoGPS) instructs the 'gpsd' to read the GSM chip; - the internal radio antenna of the GSM chip is in the upper part of the Freerunner, above the loudspeaker; while waiting for TTFF (Time To First Fix) use the FR in upright position (and with nothing above it, no building, no trees, no hand or other parts of your body); - I managed TTFF between 23 seconds and 400 seconds which is good enough if you keep in mind the small antenna; the Wiki explains about TTFF for cold start (and the FR do this) about ~15 minutes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_to_first_fix - in the 'SS' menu of the openmoko-agpsui you can check after TTFF very good the number of the satellites and the strength of their signals; any value greater then -145 dbm should be fine; I normally manage average values around -130 dbm; - I normally use openmoko-agpsui to get the First Fix and after this I start the gpsd and tangoGPS which find the GSM chip already well located on earth; - some screenshoots of openmoko-agpsui can be seen here: http://www.unixarea.de/GPS-test01.jpg http://www.unixarea.de/GPS-test02.jpg http://www.unixarea.de/GPS-test03.jpg http://www.unixarea.de/GPS-test04.jpg Some notes about tangoGPS: - my cached maps are now stored in the SD card: # mkdir /media/card/osm # rm -rf OSM # ln -s /media/card/osm OSM - I pre-fetched maps with some tool from http://www.millions.ca/~stacy/osmtiles.tgz which let me define the two points of a rectangle, generate the URL's of OpenStreetMap and fetch down the *.png files which I store below /media/card/osm where tangoGPS will pick them up; see the README of the tar-ball for more details; for example the complete city of Munich inside the Highway-Ring A99 are some 3000 files for zoom level 11-16 and occupy only ~32 MByte; - I run tangoGPS as well in my FreeBSD laptops and connect it to the 'gpsd' which runs on the Freerunner, i.e. using the Freerunner as the GSM device for my laptop; this give you better view to the maps with tangoGPS, of course :-) more information: Wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GPS ... -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 7:19:05 am Chris Samuel wrote: On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 2:23:03 am Kishore wrote: As is a classic case, I missed the attachment! ;) Thanks for that, I'll play with it today. Works rather nicely, thanks! -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] usb keyboard
On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 10:36:37 + Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AJ) wrote: Petr Vanek wrote: I am thinking of connecting a usb keyboard to android on fr simply by calling in the init.rc: ifconfig usb0 down echo host /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode we can turn in back to device mode in the terminal application (in dev tools, if it works...) my usb keyboard is not around now, but has anybody tried this yet? I added it in /init.rc but it didn't work. The keyboard powers up, so it looks like host mode is working, but I don't get any input in the terminal app. Also NumLock etc.don't light their respective LEDs. I don't think the numlock led lits up for me when connected to fr. i will try this tonight if i get some time. if you get any other idea, just post us, would be cool to figure this out -- Petr Vanek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] hints and results about using GPS on/with FR
El día Friday, November 07, 2008 a las 11:41:28AM +0100, Matthias Apitz escribió: Hello, In the last days (nights :-)) I did some tests with GPS on my FR and here are the results in compact form; HIH matthias ... 12. GPS Install the following packages: # opkg install gpsd # opkg install http://www.tangogps.org/downloads/tangogps_0.9.3-r1_armv4t.ipk # opkg install openmoko-agpsui # opkg install gpsdcontrol_0.3_all.opk The last one (gpsdcontrol) removes the starting of the 'gpsd' from the boot run-level, which is a good idea at all for saving power; One must edit the /etc/default/gpsd to point it to the correct serial device of the GSM antenna: ^^^ 1,$s-GSM-GPS- sorry, please replace GSM by GPS in all places of my mail; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Vote! Zimbra Mobile on the Openmoko
Hello all, I am to write a component for Zimbra for my study course. I would like to write something for openmoko (better developing on FSO i think?) could you guys say what would be most wanted, or at least to start with? -- because a guy @freenode said there are many things to do :) Something initiative, small, e.g. a contacts client? Thanks a pint for the hint :) -- sledge -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Vote%21-Zimbra-Mobile-on-the-Openmoko-tp9362p1469807.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Synchronizing contacts from Kontact in KDE4 ?
On Thursday 06 November 2008 11:03:29 Jelle De Loecker wrote: Sascha Peilicke schreef: On Wednesday 05 November 2008 12:08:11 Jelle De Loecker wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) schreef: Sascha Peilicke wrote: As I mentioned in the Funambol threat, there is already a tool which can synchronise via SyncML, but it was written for Qtopia-4.3.1 so someone might have to look at it .. Wait, here is the text of the older post: I guess this is an open secret already, but just in case someone wants to have a synchronisation solution which uses SyncML: Ehm... Link has changed [1] :P. [1] https://code.launchpad.net/~saschpe/+junk/qtopia-ds I might be tempted to port it to QtExtended but I currently have neither a phone nor much time. basically it should work just fine, if QtExtended is binary compatible to Qtopia-4.3.1. Maybe I'll find the time to fix it up in the next weeks ... Ah, I thought someone already said it didn't work. I'll be happy to give it a try tonight. I've never really compiled anything for my freerunner yet. Is this just a small program I need to compile, or is there more to it? It's a standalone all-in-one package and you don't need anything further that a working Qtopia/QtExtended development environment (the SDK for example). -- Sascha Peilicke http://saschpe.wordpress.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Qtextended] Access to Feeds forbidden?
I don't know why, but I suddenly found today that access to http://qtextended.org/packages/feed/ was forbidden. Aren't we supposed to go and see what packages become available? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Vote! Zimbra Mobile on the Openmoko
On Fri, November 7, 2008 15:22, sledge wrote: Hello all, I am to write a component for Zimbra for my study course. I would like to write something for openmoko (better developing on FSO i think?) could you guys say what would be most wanted, or at least to start with? -- because a guy @freenode said there are many things to do :) Something initiative, small, e.g. a contacts client? Personally, here is some work (also regarding contacts) for which contribution would be welcomed with a big smile: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/openmoko-manager Support for opensync would enable syncing contacts with Zimbra and many other tools. Thanks a pint for the hint :) -- sledge -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Vote%21-Zimbra-Mobile-on-the-Openmoko-tp9362p1469807.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Vote! Zimbra Mobile on the Openmoko
Hi Sledge, Sounds like a great project! Let me know if there's any testing or similar you want done. I'm currently using the Mail for Exchange application to sync my Nokia N96 with the Zimbra system we've got here at work; it's working very nicely and I'd love to have something similar for Openmoko. Features I use and like: * Synchronizing of mail and calender items (I don't use the contact synching, although there are a couple of people here that do) * Peak / Off Peak synching schedules And really, that's about it. A short list for sure! My emails come through just as text messages do and my calender is up to date. Something simple that just works would be great :) Joseph 2008/11/7 sledge [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello all, I am to write a component for Zimbra for my study course. I would like to write something for openmoko (better developing on FSO i think?) could you guys say what would be most wanted, or at least to start with? -- because a guy @freenode said there are many things to do :) Something initiative, small, e.g. a contacts client? Thanks a pint for the hint :) -- sledge -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Vote%21-Zimbra-Mobile-on-the-Openmoko-tp9362p1469807.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2008.9] calendar app wanted
Hello, Is there some small calendar application I could use with Om2008.9? I saw gpe-calendar_0.92-r0.1_armv4t.ipk, but this need a lot of other stuff to be more recent: # opkg install gpe-calendar_0.92-r0.1_armv4t.ipk Installing gpe-calendar (0.92-r0.1) to root... Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for gpe-calendar: * libgpevtype1 (= 0.50) * libmimedir-0.4-0 (= 0.4.2) * * libeventdb2 (= 0.90) * libhandoff0 (= 0.1) * * libgthread-2.0-0 (= 2.18.1) * libxml2 (= 2.7.2) * * libgcrypt11 (= 1.4.1) * libsoundgen0 (= 0.6) * * libdbus-glib-1-2 (= 0.76) * libdbus-1-3 (= 1.2.1) * * libschedule0 (= 0.17) * gtk+ (= 2.14.2) * libgio-2.0-0 * (= 2.18.1) * pango (= 1.22.0) * libcairo2 (= 1.7.6) * * libpixman-1-0 (= 0.12.0) * libpng12-0 (= 1.2.31) * * libgobject-2.0-0 (= 2.18.1) * libgmodule-2.0-0 (= * 2.18.1) * libglib-2.0-0 (= 2.18.1) * Maybe something like http://www.bitrot.de/plan.html ??? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GPG for SMS?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello there, i didn't work with qtopia-sdk or something like until now, so i couldn't code something in qt(extended), but i've an idea; for more security, it's possible to build gpg into the qtopia-sms-application wich is in om 2008. sms/mms are a great securityhole now. with the fr, it's could change! i think, if someone had a basic/good expirience with coding in the openmoko, it didn't include much things to do, because the basics exist. sadly i havn't the time to code, and, how i said, not the expirience, but i think, there could be someone with time, lust and expirience :) hope, this idea could be usefull for the community. would be great, if it's possible. :D greets - -- Vinzenz Hersche Lehrling 2. Lehrjahr Puzzle ITC GmbH www.puzzle.ch Telefon +41 31 370 22 00 Direkt +41 31 370 22 04 Mobile +41 78 845 24 12 Fax +41 31 370 22 01 Puzzle ist Mitglied der Eclipse Foundation: http://www.puzzle.ch/eclipse/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJFFkLK9d7OHUJmA4RAn8vAJ9lkN/ugYSZ5/EGEXPqwRp4WrL3/ACfVUdK 6B+fgPZiMS+Z8aJURToDTWM= =uvou -END PGP SIGNATURE- begin:vcard fn:Vinzenz Hersche n:Hersche;Vinzenz email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;home:033 336 20 56 tel;cell:077 447 73 74 x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.9 repositories
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hello i've got no problems with depences until yesterday. now, i've the same problem like you, but for deforaos-player and mokoko.. did someone know what's going wrong with these repos? greets Tony Berth schrieb: Dear Group, I'm not very clear which repository I should use when having the 2008.9 image installed. The current opkg conf files point to the 2008.8 repository and when I try to upgrade nothing occurs. Probably everything is alredy up to date! On the other hand, I tried to install minimo. Followed the stpes as described in: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner but got following error: -- Installing minimo (1:0.02+cvs20070626-r0) to root... Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for minimo: * libfreetype6 (= 2.3.6) * libxt6 (= 1.0.5) * --- these requested versions can be found either in 'testing' or 'unstable' repositories! Which one is advisable to use? In some e-mails in that list, I saw people were referring to the 'testing' one and would like to verify before doing so. Thanks for your help Cheers Tony -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community - -- Vinzenz Hersche Lehrling 2. Lehrjahr Puzzle ITC GmbH www.puzzle.ch Telefon +41 31 370 22 00 Direkt +41 31 370 22 04 Mobile +41 78 845 24 12 Fax +41 31 370 22 01 Puzzle ist Mitglied der Eclipse Foundation: http://www.puzzle.ch/eclipse/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJFFnuK9d7OHUJmA4RAkYwAJ0R+ndIMGJbXCvSgqFHFfNnObWE0ACgxrQm veJ3cPhtml6DUBjpxTVpKK4= =SvyM -END PGP SIGNATURE- begin:vcard fn:Vinzenz Hersche n:Hersche;Vinzenz email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;home:033 336 20 56 tel;cell:077 447 73 74 x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB Networking
With Ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10 I've had 100% success on four or five different systems with: auto usb0 iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.201 netmask 255.255.255.252 post-up iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.202 post-up iptables -I PREROUTING -i usb0 -p udp --dport 53 -j DNAT --to 192.168.0.254 post-up echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward post-up iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT pre-down iptables -D POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.202 pre-down iptables -D PREROUTING -i usb0 -p udp --dport 53 -j DNAT --to 192.168.0.254 in /etc/network/interfaces, and the fix noted on the wiki at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Usb_networking#Ubuntu_Issues If you use allow-hotplug instead of auto, it should work without needing any fix. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPG for SMS?
Vinzenz Hersche [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: wich is in om 2008. sms/mms are a great securityhole now. with the fr, echo a a gpg --encrypt a already produces a file with 337 bytes. SMS only does 160 characters (I have forgotten how many octets it is). So you'd probably want to use symmetric cipher? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5
some cases a good alternative is to simply hide the icon of the disabled hardware components i think hiding is the worst way. other phones use to fade icons of services not available/disabled (frinst the treo does it with the bluetooth icon -- gray when disabled, blue when active). the problem with the gps icon is, that it is hard to determine if it means disabled or enabled -- the meaning of those icons is exactly opposite: deliver the crucial information at first sight w/o any pondering. that said -- i still have no idea how an easily recognized icon for gps should look like. bluetooth and wlan got their respective logos, for gsm this thingumabob showing signla strength (what's the term?) is pretty common and transports more information then just on/off. i also would like to be able to un-/lock screen with power-button .. but actually i don't know how to disable touch so it doesn't emmit events .. anyone some ideas ? I don't know if/how you can do that. But you can place a window at the very forefront that hides everything else and grabs all events. after all, it's an X/kernel issue -- so, probably below /sys there's an interface. but shouldn't frameworkd handle that kind of things? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPG for SMS?
sms/mms are a great securityhole now. with the fr, how's that? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2 / found problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have to add a problem i encountered. * I got a call from an no saved number which I wanted to save. When a klick on save to contact the dialoge is shown if i want to create a new contact. The yes-option seems not to work. The no-option does only work if I press the AUX-button to quit the dialoge. * To the problem with the incoming calls: The Speakerphone-mode is used not everytime. Luckily you can switch to Handset-mode with the options-dialoge. * Indeed the speakervolume could be a bit louder. But I think I will handle this by changing the statefile. Greetings Bastian Marcel Meyer schrieb: Hi list, (sorry, if the information in this mail comes doubled - I sent it first using a wrong sender email address. In case it is unlocked by some admin: apologies :-) ) I'd like to use this thread to add some problems I found so far. I won't repeat the ones I encountered which were already reported by others. But let me start with some plaudit (and here I allow myself to repeat the positive statements from others)! * The battery life is sooo much better. Standby for almost 2 days is now possible. That looks like the right way to go! * GPRS is now (most of the time ;-) ) working! I can - albeit slow - now surf on my Freerunner. * Sending SMS and calling seems to work. (Problems mentioned by other apply to me too (Echo, no ring tone, etc.) ) So thank you Trolls! (Always complaining without saying thank you is not very diplomatic, I think, right? *g* ) Now, let me outline my new problems. * I'm not sure, if it was mentioned somewhere on the list. Just for completeness: the echo-problem applies to me. The other end hears its own voice. * QtExtended (using the mw-kernel incl. modules) insists that I do not have a SIM card... System Info, the application SIM applications and even the settings when I try to change my Call Options moan about a missing one. (I have an obviously working O2-3G-card from Germany.) When I choose a contact out of the dialer application, some kind of text box pops up with the title Phone Number and the word No as single content. Only a non-functional Cancel in the button bar. The dialer then hangs, I can't do anything more in it. Pressing the AUX button brings me back to the home screen and the dialer app crashes (?) so I can restart. Dialing manually works! Also choosing a contact wihtin the address book and then selecting Call is a way to call out. At least it should be pulled through! (I'm happy that it isn't in this case.) ;-) * The most severe problem is not sth. as easily reproducible. I switched on my GPRS yesterday evening and choose Always On and No Timeout to let it be online over night. I want to have some XMPP-client to be always online on the phone some day. When starting the browser this morning, I switched with the AUX button to look after some notes I added into the notes application. The browser seemed to kill itself (which looks like the default reaction of applications when I press AUX :-p ). Now, the browser doesn't want to start anymore. It always complains about some internal error and closes itself (well, perhaps this is just a QtE-dialog telling me the called app segfaulted? Dunno). So I wanted to reboot to cleanse the memory. The problem now is that QtE behaves strange. The battery indicator is showing that the battery is beeing loaded. Which it isn't of course. And despite the homescreen there is a text box overlayed with the instruction to enter my PIN and unlock it. The Unlock button is visible but non-functional. But that's it. There is _no_ input widget to enter my pin. Just the homescreen with the overlayed text box. Nothing reacts to any input despite pressing the power button for 8+ seconds. (Taking out the battery and waiting a few seconds didn't change anything.) I can still ssh into the FR in this state if I connect the USB cable. CPU is bored (load under 0.1) so at least there is nothing running amok. Phew, sorry for that long post. But I hope the long descriptions make it easier to understand what I want to describe in my clumsy english. ;-) Have a nice day, Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJFGZ/lYiDScJJ+7QRAvK0AJ45NzEax72cPMQJyxxKrYpxEm5vtACgmLMk O8GFtqYJLqF6eQIG8km9t2g= =5tWR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
2008.9 repositories
Dear Group, I'm not very clear which repository I should use when having the 2008.9 image installed. The current opkg conf files point to the 2008.8 repository and when I try to upgrade nothing occurs. Probably everything is alredy up to date! On the other hand, I tried to install minimo. Followed the stpes as described in: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner but got following error: -- Installing minimo (1:0.02+cvs20070626-r0) to root... Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for minimo: * libfreetype6 (= 2.3.6) * libxt6 (= 1.0.5) * --- these requested versions can be found either in 'testing' or 'unstable' repositories! Which one is advisable to use? In some e-mails in that list, I saw people were referring to the 'testing' one and would like to verify before doing so. Thanks for your help Cheers Tony ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Installingusing Om .pik or .opk under Debian?
Is there somewhere a user guide to use Om applications under Debian? Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] usb keyboard
Petr Vanek wrote: I am thinking of connecting a usb keyboard to android on fr simply by calling in the init.rc: ifconfig usb0 down echo host /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode we can turn in back to device mode in the terminal application (in dev tools, if it works...) my usb keyboard is not around now, but has anybody tried this yet? I added it in /init.rc but it didn't work. The keyboard powers up, so it looks like host mode is working, but I don't get any input in the terminal app. Also NumLock etc.don't light their respective LEDs. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] openmoko-panel-plugin 0.5
- The GPS off icon doesn't use the read slashed circle contrary to all others. i just had no good ideas for new icons for the others yet .. You mean you want to get rid of the red slashed circle for the others as well? I'm surprised: I thought it was a good idea. Of course, in some cases a good alternative is to simply hide the icon of the disabled hardware components (and provide a turn on button somehow somewhere else for them). BTW, I also noticed that the USB icon (and corresponding control panel) disappeared here. Is that intentional? openmoko-panel-plugin is a lot better, tho I still think the power button should mostly be bound to a form of lock. I.e. it could put you in a lock mode where you can take several actions, one of which being unlock, others being shutdown or suspend (and the suspend should be performed by default after 30s). I.e. basically make your menu a bit more difficult to use so it can double as a lock, rename close to unlock, and add a timeout that makes it suspend. i also would like to be able to un-/lock screen with power-button .. but actually i don't know how to disable touch so it doesn't emmit events .. anyone some ideas ? I don't know if/how you can do that. But you can place a window at the very forefront that hides everything else and grabs all events. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Installingusing Om .pik or .opk under Debian?
Stefan Monnier wrote: Is there somewhere a user guide to use Om applications under Debian? You can just extract the opkg files and copy the content to the required directories. To extract a *.ipk file just do ar x filename.ipk and you got a data archive with the content of the ipg file. Extract this and copy the content to where it belongs. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new Game for freerunner: xlogical
I'll try to create a bitbake recipe for it so it can track the distro(s). Good Did you disable the sound because it was choppy? (like I experienced with Pingus) I did't even test sounds. I think games played on phone should be silent. (If somebody wants musics and sound effects, It can be default disabled, but player has option to enabel it.) -Aapo Rantalainen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2
Chris Samuel wrote: [...] Does QT 4.4.2 not use the AT command that was recently discovered to activate the echo canceller / noise reduction feature of calypso ? cheers, Chris -- According to Lorn Potter, it does. And as you wrote earlier in this thread, it only appears to send these commands with outgoing calls, since incoming calls still have the echo (and the phone set to handsfree/speaker instead of handset). I'm curious about the alsa-settings that were posted by Kishore, what do they exactly fix? As I understand it would fix incoming calls being set to speaker (instead of handset), right? Cheers, Tha_Man -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-QT-Extended--Observersation-on-QtE-4.4.2-tp1456360p1469370.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] Answer calll problems
Christophe Badoit wrote: Andreas Wallin a écrit : Im having problems with answer phone calls on android.. Its ringing but how to anser is the question ? Probably with the keypad that the FR doesn't have :) I've suggested to Sean McNeil in his wiki talk page to use the AUX button not only as a rejecting button, but also as a accept button. My idea is: - Brief pressure of the AUX: green button - Pressure longer than 0.5 sec (enough?): red button Could it be done easily? I figure... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.9 repositories
*This will solve your problem*: = To get packages from *testing*, use this */etc/opkg/testing.conf* : src/gz testing-all http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/all src/gz testing-arm http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t src/gz testing-neo http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/neo1973 src/gz testing-gta02 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/om-gta02 = source: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download 2008/11/7 Vinzenz Hersche [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hello i've got no problems with depences until yesterday. now, i've the same problem like you, but for deforaos-player and mokoko.. did someone know what's going wrong with these repos? greets Tony Berth schrieb: Dear Group, I'm not very clear which repository I should use when having the 2008.9 image installed. The current opkg conf files point to the 2008.8 repository and when I try to upgrade nothing occurs. Probably everything is alredy up to date! On the other hand, I tried to install minimo. Followed the stpes as described in: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner but got following error: -- Installing minimo (1:0.02+cvs20070626-r0) to root... Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for minimo: * libfreetype6 (= 2.3.6) * libxt6 (= 1.0.5) * --- these requested versions can be found either in 'testing' or 'unstable' repositories! Which one is advisable to use? In some e-mails in that list, I saw people were referring to the 'testing' one and would like to verify before doing so. Thanks for your help Cheers Tony -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community - -- Vinzenz Hersche Lehrling 2. Lehrjahr Puzzle ITC GmbH www.puzzle.ch Telefon +41 31 370 22 00 Direkt +41 31 370 22 04 Mobile +41 78 845 24 12 Fax +41 31 370 22 01 Puzzle ist Mitglied der Eclipse Foundation: http://www.puzzle.ch/eclipse/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJFFnuK9d7OHUJmA4RAkYwAJ0R+ndIMGJbXCvSgqFHFfNnObWE0ACgxrQm veJ3cPhtml6DUBjpxTVpKK4= =SvyM -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Installingusing Om .pik or .opk under Debian?
Is there somewhere a user guide to use Om applications under Debian? You can just extract the opkg files and copy the content to the required directories. To extract a *.ipk file just do ar x filename.ipk and you got a data archive with the content of the ipg file. Extract this and copy the content to where it belongs. I guess it's good to know that this simple approach works (this means that libraries are mostly compatible, at least), but I was hoping for something that could do some amount of dependency checking, offer uninstall, and the usual set of features you expect from a package management system. I guess something like `alien' for ipk/opk files, but `alien' doesn't seem to understand ipk files. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Touch screen calibration?
It appears that my touch screen is out of calibration for some reason. Is there a utility or a method available to recalibrate the touch screen? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Touch screen calibration?
xtscal Or some menu position in Qtopia/Qt Extended. dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TangoGPS svn/git ?
On 07/11/2008, Glen Ogilvie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sent Marcus an email on Monday and have not heard back, so figured he must be busy or on holiday.. or have a spam filter that does not like me :). So was just wondering if anyone here happened to know of a repository for it. You could start your own git repo from the latest available tarball. That will help you keep track of your own work, and it should also be trivial to merge in future updates from Marcus. Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPG for SMS?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 arne anka schrieb: sms/mms are a great securityhole now. with the fr, how's that? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community because they are uncrypt. and the gsm-connection isn't secure, some peoble written a programm, wich could crack this connection in 5-10 minutes.. echo a a gpg --encrypt a already produces a file with 337 bytes. SMS only does 160 characters (I have forgotten how many octets it is). So you'd probably want to use symmetric cipher? ok, this is a real problem. i didn't think on it. but i think, a reason is possible in some way (not gpg).. there is a programm, wich could crypt sms, but it's not gpl. it is open source, but just the demo-version is free for downloads and use. http://sites.google.com/site/smscrypt/ another con is the art of smscrypt is, it's send and recive the sms's and does all the things. i think, it's much easier if the peoble could use the qtopia-application, because the community does develop ever and make it from self better, and it's also integrated. so if you just could click encrypt as an option. in my eyes, this is more usefull. a alternative to use gpg could be the e-mailpart of the application. it's possible to send mails over gsm, so there it's possible. what do you think about? - -- Vinzenz Hersche Lehrling 2. Lehrjahr Puzzle ITC GmbH www.puzzle.ch Telefon +41 31 370 22 00 Direkt +41 31 370 22 04 Mobile +41 78 845 24 12 Fax +41 31 370 22 01 Puzzle ist Mitglied der Eclipse Foundation: http://www.puzzle.ch/eclipse/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJFJzxK9d7OHUJmA4RAvddAJ4oFtPT1lgn5eUfndaHWGIE1gXhbQCfWnoz v6Nqmg2ptd1QMXkKkujroBE= =fqFg -END PGP SIGNATURE- begin:vcard fn:Vinzenz Hersche n:Hersche;Vinzenz email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;home:033 336 20 56 tel;cell:077 447 73 74 x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
(Debian) Problem installing kernel modules
Hi all, I am installing Debian again, on the new 8GB card. Unfortunately it dies on me (second try also), with this error: I: System configured I: Done with stage configuration Running stage kernel Installing kernel image and modules * Dowloading kernel image Connecting to downloads.openmoko.org (88.198.93.219:80) uImage.bin 100% |***| 1890k 00:00:00 ETA * Downloading kernel modules Connecting to downloads.openmoko.org (88.198.93.219:80) -100% |***| 21112k 00:00:00 ETA * Running depmod WARNING: Couldn't open directory /lib/modules/2.6.24mw-g291a9d50: No such file or directory FATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.24mw-g291a9d50/modules.dep.temp for writing: No such file or directory [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# I ran: SD_PART1_FS=vfat INST_MIRROR=http://ftp.nl.debian.org /debian ./install.sh all to get things going, like I did with the 512MB card, and that ran fine. The installer-script is right, too: the directory mentioned does not exist. Now, what is the smart thing to do? Paul -- Success seems to be largely a matter of hanging on after others have let go. -William Feather http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Touch screen calibration?
When I run xtscal I get: XCALIBRATE extension missing. Any ideas? Johny Tenfinger wrote: xtscal Or some menu position in Qtopia/Qt Extended. dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Touch screen calibration?
Okay, the solution is to use ts_calibrate. xtscal does not work on 2007.x Iain B. Findleton wrote: When I run xtscal I get: XCALIBRATE extension missing. Any ideas? Johny Tenfinger wrote: xtscal Or some menu position in Qtopia/Qt Extended. dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OM2008] Events/0 eats 30% -- Causing Doom to run slow.
Hello All - I believe I've read that this issue was posted and a (won't fix) was tacked on. I was tracking down the reasons why Doom would run slow sometimes, and nice others... It appears to be events/0 causing 27-30% cpu usage. What is the remedy for this? Reboot? (Like MS-Windows?).. Otherwise, for all of you out there, this is why Doom runs slow on some machines. -Scott -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-OM2008--Events-0-eats-30-Causing-Doom-to-run-slow.-tp1471459p1471459.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2008] Events/0 eats 30% -- Causing Doom to run slow.
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 01:06:04PM -0800, SCarlson wrote: I believe I've read that this issue was posted and a (won't fix) was tacked on. I was tracking down the reasons why Doom would run slow sometimes, and nice others... It appears to be events/0 causing 27-30% cpu usage. What is the remedy for this? Reboot? (Like MS-Windows?).. Yes, reboot :( I heard some people say suspend will also solve it, but for my Freerunner Rev5, suspend is a huge nono :( Rui -- You are what you see. Today is Sweetmorn, the 19th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Touch screen calibration?
Hmm, xtscal worked for me some time ago on 2007.2. Now it isn't working to me too :x Why? On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 21:42, Iain B. Findleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, the solution is to use ts_calibrate. xtscal does not work on 2007.x Iain B. Findleton wrote: When I run xtscal I get: XCALIBRATE extension missing. Any ideas? Johny Tenfinger wrote: xtscal Or some menu position in Qtopia/Qt Extended. dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2008] Events/0 eats 30% -- Causing Doom to run slow.
I heard some people say suspend will also solve it, but for my Freerunner Rev5, suspend is a huge nono :( Try to change kernel and use scripts in /etc/apm.d - on my GTA02v5 suspend and resume works pretty well. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Installingusing Om .pik or .opk under Debian?
Conversion .ipk to/from .deb are dealt with in section 6) in the ipkg building HOWTO: http://download.intrinsyc.com/supported/os/linux/distribution/i-linux-4.1/i-packages-1.1/src/hello-world/HOWTO-ipkg Yours, Minh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2008] Events/0 eats 30% -- Causing Doom to run slow.
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 13:06:04 -0800 (PST), SCarlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All - I believe I've read that this issue was posted and a (won't fix) was tacked on. I was tracking down the reasons why Doom would run slow sometimes, and nice others... It appears to be events/0 causing 27-30% cpu usage. What is the remedy for this? Reboot? (Like MS-Windows?).. Otherwise, for all of you out there, this is why Doom runs slow on some machines. -Scott Indeed it is a known problem with a fairly long ticket, https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1597, but it is NOT won't fix at all. As I understand it the problem was tracked back to SDIO support in the kernel, which the wifi uses. (there's a thread from this morning on the Support list asking about it as well) For now, reboot will of course fix it, for 12-20 hours it appears. (like my Symbian-based Nokia 6600, hadda reboot every day or two ;) j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Suspend on Rev5 [Was: Re: [OM2008] Events/0 eats 30% -- Causing Doom to run slow.]
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 10:31:58PM +0100, Johny Tenfinger wrote: I heard some people say suspend will also solve it, but for my Freerunner Rev5, suspend is a huge nono :( Try to change kernel and use scripts in /etc/apm.d - on my GTA02v5 suspend and resume works pretty well. Change the kernel to what? I'm running the daily (20081104)... Rui -- Today is Sweetmorn, the 19th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Touch screen calibration?
There are, according to the net, issues on other distros with xtscal. Perhaps the maintainers retired? Johny Tenfinger wrote: Hmm, xtscal worked for me some time ago on 2007.2. Now it isn't working to me too :x Why? On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 21:42, Iain B. Findleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, the solution is to use ts_calibrate. xtscal does not work on 2007.x Iain B. Findleton wrote: When I run xtscal I get: XCALIBRATE extension missing. Any ideas? Johny Tenfinger wrote: xtscal Or some menu position in Qtopia/Qt Extended. dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Debian) Problem installing kernel modules
Hi, Am Freitag, den 07.11.2008, 20:55 +0100 schrieb Paul: to get things going, like I did with the 512MB card, and that ran fine. The installer-script is right, too: the directory mentioned does not exist. Now, what is the smart thing to do? Without knowing what goes wrong, try this unreleased version of the installer: http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-fso/files.git;a=blob_plain;f=install.sh;h=HEAD;hb=HEAD It will install the kernel from a Debian package (and not with wget/tar), maybe then your problem does not occur. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Debian) Problem installing kernel modules
Hallo Joachim, Without knowing what goes wrong, try this unreleased version of the installer: http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-fso/files.git;a=blob_plain;f=install.sh;h=HEAD;hb=HEAD It will install the kernel from a Debian package (and not with wget/tar), maybe then your problem does not occur. Thanks, it is running now. I'll let you know how it worked out! Schönen Abend noch! Paul -- Success seems to be largely a matter of hanging on after others have let go. -William Feather http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] Answer calll problems
On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:55:44 +0100, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christophe Badoit wrote: Andreas Wallin a écrit : Im having problems with answer phone calls on android.. Its ringing but how to anser is the question ? Probably with the keypad that the FR doesn't have :) I've suggested to Sean McNeil in his wiki talk page to use the AUX button not only as a rejecting button, but also as a accept button. My idea is: - Brief pressure of the AUX: green button - Pressure longer than 0.5 sec (enough?): red button Could it be done easily? I figure... If it's only going to be one, why not 'accept'?? Worst-case I would be more willing to let it 'ring out' than be unable to answer... For a dual-action as you proposed, I'd suggest silencing the ringer at 'button down' of AUX, so that if you're going to hold it down .5-1 sec to 'reject' then the ringer will still stop right away, which I suspect is the main reason that most people use 'reject'. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Debian) Problem installing kernel modules
Joachim Breitner wrote: Without knowing what goes wrong, try this unreleased version of the installer: http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-fso/files.git;a=blob_plain;f=install.sh;h=HEAD;hb=HEAD After running the new install.sh, it all ended well: I: Kernel installed I: Done with stage kernel Running stage unmount Unmounting microSD card partitions I: microSD card partitions unmounted I: Done with stage unmount I: All done! Now reboot, switch on the Openmoko FreeRunner with both AUX+PWR, buttons, choose Boot from microSD (FAT+ext2) and wait! I rebooted, Zhone came up and that does not desire to go beyond Connecting w/ dbus... May be related to the frameworkd.conf file from another thread, I'll play with that later. Now sleep. Thanks for this one!! Paul -- Success seems to be largely a matter of hanging on after others have let go. -William Feather http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation
Recently, I helped do a talk at my local free software group[1] about Openmoko/Neo Freerunner etc. (video coming soon!) for which I wrote a short presentation, five minutes before it started. It wasn't very good, but it got a message across - a message that a Freerunner + FDOM = a smartphone that worked as a smartphone. Today, I sat down and went through the presentation, improved it a bit, and put it more into the style I like to do presentations in. :) You can find my improved presentation, available under CC-BY-SA 3.0 at: http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/presentation/openmokopresentation1.2.odp http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/presentation/openmokopresentation1.2.pdf My apologies to the developers and users of anything which isn't FDOM, you guys do an amazing job on your projects and I don't give you enough credit. I'm sorry. Keep on innovating and doing cool stuff! :) Cheers Tim P.S. My original presentation and other things can be found at http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/presentation/ [1] http://manchester.fsuk.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation
On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 12:24:56AM +, Tim Dobson wrote: Recently, I helped do a talk at my local free software group[1] about Openmoko/Neo Freerunner etc. (video coming soon!) for which I wrote a short presentation, five minutes before it started. A Wiki page should be setup with this presentation and translations as well. I will try to make a pt_PT translation. Rui -- All Hail Discordia! Today is Boomtime, the 20th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation
On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 12:35:54AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 12:24:56AM +, Tim Dobson wrote: Recently, I helped do a talk at my local free software group[1] about Openmoko/Neo Freerunner etc. (video coming soon!) for which I wrote a short presentation, five minutes before it started. A Wiki page should be setup with this presentation and translations as well. I will try to make a pt_PT translation. Done! While there isn't a wiki page, it's at: http://blog.1407.org/2008/11/08/apresentacao-sobre-o-openmoko/ Rui -- Or is it? Today is Boomtime, the 20th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: I will try to make a pt_PT translation. Done! While there isn't a wiki page, it's at: http://blog.1407.org/2008/11/08/apresentacao-sobre-o-openmoko/ Wow! This has really made my day! :D Thank you, I feel honoured that you thought it was worth translating! Tim P.S. I added your translation to http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/presentation/ -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Optimization team update (11/02 ~ 11/08)
Hi community, A brief summary of what the optimization team did last week: Erin worked on qtopia to improve the network registering time. Qtopia 4.3.2: camp network about 26~36 sec and it would display 'No Network' on screen before that. Qt extended 4.4.2: 40 sec from qpe main() to Ready [black screen first, home screen 20 sec] Qtopia 4.3.2 + X11 [17 + 52 sec before, 52 sec -12 -20 = 30 sec, by applying two patches] http://git.openmoko.org/?p=qtopia.git;a=commit;h=9f0eb58ab7cca96e90bd49845d23b10ecf7ba664 http://git.openmoko.org/?p=qtopia.git;a=commit;h=9c8c832f77f4f24adc5ad17f5031016ce8562a34 FSO: 10-20 sec Google Android: 20 sec Olv tried to replace u-boot by qi along with various improvements to bring down the boot time to illume (without qtopia) to about 30 secs. qi does not support dfu-util so only do this if you know what you're doing. He dived into a lot of code reading to see if there are further possibilities. Jeremy looked into the two issues about suspend/resume that we may fix in userspace. One is #1991, here is his update: As I inspected, qpe and apmd opens /dev/apm_bios right now, and I found two possible scenarios for this issue as below: 1) in qpe, we need to wait for the reply of prepare_suspend for the modem. in this case, we may need to wait for a period +of time that exceed 30 seconds, and we don't know how long it could be, waitfing for the response from modem. 2) It goes to blank, but then ompower doesn't get any request for doing suspend. I doubt in some case, illume doesn't set +the suspend_delay timer. for 1), I will go to check what does that mean by the AT commands we emit before executing apm --suspend. for 2), I will debug illume for a while. Another one #1347 is about after the resume, it goes to suspend immediately. For this one, it's because screensaver timeouts right after the resume. We can fix this by invoking xset s off before going +to sleep, and reset it after the resume. Though I am looking into the possbilities of enabling apm in xglamo and checking the apm_bios driver code to see if we can fix this in xglamo. BTW, Matt has patches to solve ticket #1884. It works. Matt is arranging them and he is going to update some information about it. Julian wrote an initial version of python loader. It imports various modules first, listens on dbus and forks on demand to execfile. This brought down the load time of pyefl-sudoko from 2.59s to 1.38, a 46% improvement, and om-settings from 3.99 to 1.60, 59% improvement. There was already a daemon in Om2008 just for the sake of loading om-settings (and it cleverly sleeps for 4 seconds before starting up, make the booting even slower), we take it out to get the 3.99 number. It is just a start, there are many issues left regarding the python loader and we will keep working on it. Once the code is in a better shape Julian will put it into our svn/git. Tick mainly worked on the upgrade path this week (#2109). Regards, John ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] hints and results about using GPS on/with FR
El día Saturday, November 08, 2008 a las 04:45:30PM +1300, Robin Paulson escribió: 2008/11/7 Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: # opkg install gpsd # opkg install http://www.tangogps.org/downloads/tangogps_0.9.3-r1_armv4t.ipk # opkg install openmoko-agpsui # opkg install gpsdcontrol_0.3_all.opk The last one (gpsdcontrol) removes the starting of the 'gpsd' from the boot run-level, which is a good idea at all for saving power; which repo is gpsdcontrol in? i'm running 2008.9 and it's not found by opkg I've fetched this from http://projects.openmoko.org/ http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/gpsdcontrol/ HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation
Tim Dobson wrote: Recently, I helped do a talk at my local free software group[1] about Openmoko/Neo Freerunner etc. (video coming soon!) for which I wrote a short presentation, five minutes before it started. Fantastic!! I have my own 'freerunner experience' webpage, is it okay if I link to your PDF-presentation from there? Paul -- Success generally depends upon knowing how long it takes to succeed. -Charles de Montesquieu http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
