Can not register to network?

2008-11-18 Thread Siegfried De Bleeckere
Hi folks,

My neo works perffect with my girlfriends sim on the Proximus carier in
Belgium but my own sim from Base does not register after entering the pin
code.
I checked the wiki and trac tickets and didn't find a way to troubleshoot my
problem. Do i create a trac ticket or what would be the best way to go.

Greetings,

Siegfried
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Re: Android open sourced

2008-11-18 Thread Cédric Berger
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 06:40, Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:35:27 +0100
 Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PV) wrote:

I flashed this new image and it doesn't boot anymore.
Tried with the same SD card as before, deleted the old files from the
ext3 partition, and nothing. All I see is a black screen.



 the image is gone from the url now. i guess some rework is being done.


yes, see 
http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/f7bb35d5b79850da/a68a12ba578fe676
:

Packet Video was suppressed in this image, due to codec license issue.
But the rootfs was not functional anymore. It is being reworked.

I had downloaded this rootfs and had to add libs ins /system/lib/ from
previous rootfs : libmedia_jni.so was the one missing preventing it to
start.
I do not know if others missing also would have prevented it to start
since I copied them all back (10 files libopencore*.so, and
modules/wlan.ko)

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Re: Can not register to network?

2008-11-18 Thread FilipBE

Siegfried,

is it a 3G SIM ?

see:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner_unable_to_work_with_3G_SIM_cards

Cheers,

Filip.


Siegfried De Bleeckere wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 My neo works perffect with my girlfriends sim on the Proximus carier in
 Belgium but my own sim from Base does not register after entering the pin
 code.
 I checked the wiki and trac tickets and didn't find a way to troubleshoot
 my
 problem. Do i create a trac ticket or what would be the best way to go.
 
 Greetings,
 
 Siegfried
 
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Re: Can not register to network?

2008-11-18 Thread Erin Yueh
Siegfried De Bleeckere wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 My neo works perffect with my girlfriends sim on the Proximus carier in
 Belgium but my own sim from Base does not register after entering the
 pin code.
 I checked the wiki and trac tickets and didn't find a way to
 troubleshoot my problem. Do i create a trac ticket or what would be the
 best way to go.
 
 Greetings,
 
 Siegfried
The first thing we need to know is what image you are using? is it
Om2008.09 Qtopia-X11? Did you update or install anything?

Please read http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/wiki/NewTicket; first. if you
are using Om2008.09 Qtopia image, refer to
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Bug_Filing_Policy;. Since it's a GSM
network problem, you'd better to attach a log file to trac. Thanks!

Regards,
Erin


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Volume, a kingdom for a volume lever...

2008-11-18 Thread Theo

To me a phone is not a phone if you cannot adjust the volume during a call. 

Being able to open a terminal and guessing which lever out of hundreds in the 
alsamixer is the one handling the volume just won't cut it. I bought my 
FreeRunner in the beginning of August, and since then I have never been able 
to use the phone at all as I don't want to share my phone calls with the rest 
of the world. The high volume also creates an irritating echo to the other 
caller.

I am amazed how much time seems to be spent making GPS, 
Bluetooth and Wireless work on the phone whilst such a basic function as 
adjusting the volume seems to be totally forgotten.

Then again, maybe Its just me who cannot find this feature in any of the 
Distributions available...

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Re: Volume, a kingdom for a volume lever...

2008-11-18 Thread gromez
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Theo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 To me a phone is not a phone if you cannot adjust the volume during a call.

 Being able to open a terminal and guessing which lever out of hundreds in the
 alsamixer is the one handling the volume just won't cut it. I bought my
 FreeRunner in the beginning of August, and since then I have never been able
 to use the phone at all as I don't want to share my phone calls with the rest
 of the world. The high volume also creates an irritating echo to the other
 caller.

 I am amazed how much time seems to be spent making GPS,
 Bluetooth and Wireless work on the phone whilst such a basic function as
 adjusting the volume seems to be totally forgotten.

 Then again, maybe Its just me who cannot find this feature in any of the
 Distributions available...

A ticket has been opened for this feature in SHR :
http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/ticket/41
But I didn't have any idea when it will be done...

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Re: Volume, a kingdom for a volume lever...

2008-11-18 Thread William Kenworthy
or install zenity and create a /usr/share/applications/Volume.desktop
file containg the lines below:


[Desktop Entry]
Comment=Volume Control
Exec=/usr/bin/amixer set PCM `zenity --scale --display=:0.0
--text=Volume  --min-value=100 --max-value=255 --value=235`
MimeType=
Name=.Volume
StartupNotify=false
Terminal=true
TerminalOptions=
Type=Application
Categories=Application;Utility;
Icon=xterm


On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 10:18 +0100, gromez wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Theo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  To me a phone is not a phone if you cannot adjust the volume during a call.
 
  Being able to open a terminal and guessing which lever out of hundreds in 
  the
  alsamixer is the one handling the volume just won't cut it. I bought my
  FreeRunner in the beginning of August, and since then I have never been able
  to use the phone at all as I don't want to share my phone calls with the 
  rest
  of the world. The high volume also creates an irritating echo to the other
  caller.
 
  I am amazed how much time seems to be spent making GPS,
  Bluetooth and Wireless work on the phone whilst such a basic function as
  adjusting the volume seems to be totally forgotten.
 
  Then again, maybe Its just me who cannot find this feature in any of the
  Distributions available...
 
 A ticket has been opened for this feature in SHR :
 http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/ticket/41
 But I didn't have any idea when it will be done...
 
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Re: Can not register to network?

2008-11-18 Thread Siegfried De Bleeckere
Hi Filip,

I had a second look at the sim card and i fear it is indeed a 3G sim because
it has a banxsafe logo on it.
I've assumed Base Belgium was using low end technology, my wrong.
I'll wait untill the update, i read somewhere that the november update will
include a patch for 3G sims.


Thx,

Siegfried

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:39 AM, FilipBE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Siegfried,

 is it a 3G SIM ?

 see:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner_unable_to_work_with_3G_SIM_cards

 Cheers,

 Filip.


 Siegfried De Bleeckere wrote:
 
  Hi folks,
 
  My neo works perffect with my girlfriends sim on the Proximus carier in
  Belgium but my own sim from Base does not register after entering the pin
  code.
  I checked the wiki and trac tickets and didn't find a way to troubleshoot
  my
  problem. Do i create a trac ticket or what would be the best way to go.
 
  Greetings,
 
  Siegfried
 
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Re: Volume, a kingdom for a volume lever...

2008-11-18 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:03:34AM +0100, Theo wrote:
 
 To me a phone is not a phone if you cannot adjust the volume during a call. 
 
 Being able to open a terminal and guessing which lever out of hundreds in the 
 alsamixer is the one handling the volume just won't cut it. I bought my 
 FreeRunner in the beginning of August, and since then I have never been able 
 to use the phone at all as I don't want to share my phone calls with the rest 
 of the world. The high volume also creates an irritating echo to the other 
 caller.
 
 I am amazed how much time seems to be spent making GPS, 
 Bluetooth and Wireless work on the phone whilst such a basic function as 
 adjusting the volume seems to be totally forgotten.
 
 Then again, maybe Its just me who cannot find this feature in any of the 
 Distributions available...

I know that there's one in the oven possibly for 2008.11

Rui

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Re: Volume, a kingdom for a volume lever...

2008-11-18 Thread Petr Vanek
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:03:34 +0100
Theo [EMAIL PROTECTED] (T) wrote:


To me a phone is not a phone if you cannot adjust the volume during a
call. 

Being able to open a terminal and guessing which lever out of hundreds
in the alsamixer is the one handling the volume just won't cut it. I
bought my FreeRunner in the beginning of August, and since then I have
never been able to use the phone at all as I don't want to share my
phone calls with the rest of the world. The high volume also creates
an irritating echo to the other caller.

I am amazed how much time seems to be spent making GPS, 
Bluetooth and Wireless work on the phone whilst such a basic function
as adjusting the volume seems to be totally forgotten.

Then again, maybe Its just me who cannot find this feature in any of
the Distributions available...


How about PyMixer? Changes volume and can also recall/save alsa-state
files.

all the way down at
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Volume

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Re: Volume, a kingdom for a volume lever...

2008-11-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:03:34 +0100 Theo [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 
 To me a phone is not a phone if you cannot adjust the volume during a call. 
 
 Being able to open a terminal and guessing which lever out of hundreds in the 
 alsamixer is the one handling the volume just won't cut it. I bought my 
 FreeRunner in the beginning of August, and since then I have never been able 
 to use the phone at all as I don't want to share my phone calls with the rest 
 of the world. The high volume also creates an irritating echo to the other 
 caller.
 
 I am amazed how much time seems to be spent making GPS, 
 Bluetooth and Wireless work on the phone whilst such a basic function as 
 adjusting the volume seems to be totally forgotten.
 
 Then again, maybe Its just me who cannot find this feature in any of the 
 Distributions available...

e already has a mixer gadget - just enable the module (tricky given the config
dialog doesnt fit on screen... but thats a matter of time before it's fixed)
and then u get a little mixer icon u can press and get a volume slider... :)
it's always available then.


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Re: MP2/MP3-free image based on Om2008.9

2008-11-18 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/11/18 William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Are there any changes/improvements?  i.e., will it reliably work as a
 phone or is it just 2008.9 - mp3 ??

It's 2008.9 like it states, just with the fix of removing
patent-problematic mp3/mp2 support.

It has also been stated that 2008.11 should be coming soon, and
that's the one with a lot of important fixes.

The kernel in the new 2008.9 release seems to be called
20081106.uImage.bin though, and it might be that it's a newer kernel
the original 2008.9 one. That would mean the touch screen works
better, accelerometers have seen some rework and Glamo memory is
slightly overclocked (but the core clock is not, which together with
the wait state reductions would bring a very visible improvement when
the stable-tracking kernel is made into the stable one). Anyway, the
real improvements (echo cancellation, re-register problem workaround)
will be in 2008.11, hopefully soon with the new kernel too (which
would hopefully fix the rest of the suspend issues among else, and the
Glamo speedup).

-Timo, just looking at the kernel git logs

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Re: Yet Another OpenMoko Presentation

2008-11-18 Thread David Samblas
Don't worry I have made a more generic openmoko presentation here.
Spanish/English opd/pdf aviable
http://www.openmoko-spain.org/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=3

El lun, 17-11-2008 a las 00:11 +, Tim Dobson escribió:
 David Samblas wrote:
  El sáb, 08-11-2008 a las 12:38 +0100, David Samblas escribió:
  Count with an Spanish translation in short too :)
 
  I want to use it in more general presentation of openmoko not FDOM
  focused, Can I make a smooth version regarding other distributions...
  you have been ummh eemmhh a little mh rough?
 
 When I get some more free time, I'll see what I can do.
 
 originally it was used for an event where other people were presenting 
 the different distributions (and in their cases saying why it wasn't 
 their main phone) so in context it didn't look so harsh on them but I do 
 take your point.
 
 At the moment (always actually) my life is really busy, and I can't see 
 when I will have time, but when I will do my best :)
 
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Re: [android] new version with page flipping corrected.

2008-11-18 Thread Cédric Berger
I tried the version Sean published yesterday (without video codecs,
but broken and not available anymore). And I put back the missing lib
preventing it to start.

- GPS seems might be ok now.
GPSTracker does not complain anymore and tries to locate me... but I
am in a building and I could not get a fix yet.

- Wifi scanning still fails, but with another error : before it
complained about /data/system/wpa_supplicant/eth0 , now it is :

D/WifiHW  (  618): Unable to open connection to supplicant on
/data/misc/wifi/sockets/eth0: No such file or directory
V/WifiStateTracker(  618): Connection to supplicant lost
D/SettingsWifiEnabler(  844): Received wifi state changed from
Disabled to Enabling
D/SettingsWifiEnabler(  844): Received wifi state changed from
Enabling to Enabled
E/SettingsWifiLayer(  844): Unable to scan for networks

- I am also trying to have gprs/mms working, but still no luck. Though
I have to try different settings since I am not really sure about what
I have to put for my provider (SFR, france). And without keyboard, I
reboot each time in another distro to change settings :-p
I put APN settings directly in
/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/telephony.db .
Or I can also put them in xml : system/etc/apns-conf.xml , so that
they are put into database at creation time  :
for mms I tried : (I guessed the xml syntax from source code, but I do
not know what is expected in type field) :

?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
apns version=6
apn carrier=SFR MMS mcc=208 mnc=10 apn=mmssfr
mmsproxy=10.151.0.1 mmsport=8080 mmsc=http://mms1; type=wap /
/apns

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Re: [2008.x] Settings app not working

2008-11-18 Thread Benedikt Schindler
Marek Lindner schrieb:
 On Tuesday 18 November 2008 01:40:42 Ivar Mossin wrote:
   
 November 1st I upgraded from 2008.9 stable to 2008.x testing, using opkg
 update  opkg upgrade. This broke the settings applications which no
 longer starts. I have just now updated and upgraded again to see if there
 would be a fix in the repository without any luck. 
 

 May be the upgrade path is broken ? Did you try to install the latest testing 
 image ? If that does not help we can reopen the bug ...


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Re: Can not register to network?

2008-11-18 Thread Yorick Moko
that would be a firmware update for the calypso gsm chip to moko10

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Siegfried De Bleeckere
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Filip,

 I had a second look at the sim card and i fear it is indeed a 3G sim because
 it has a banxsafe logo on it.
 I've assumed Base Belgium was using low end technology, my wrong.
 I'll wait untill the update, i read somewhere that the november update will
 include a patch for 3G sims.


 Thx,

 Siegfried

 On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:39 AM, FilipBE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Siegfried,

 is it a 3G SIM ?

 see:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner_unable_to_work_with_3G_SIM_cards

 Cheers,

 Filip.


 Siegfried De Bleeckere wrote:
 
  Hi folks,
 
  My neo works perffect with my girlfriends sim on the Proximus carier in
  Belgium but my own sim from Base does not register after entering the
  pin
  code.
  I checked the wiki and trac tickets and didn't find a way to
  troubleshoot
  my
  problem. Do i create a trac ticket or what would be the best way to go.
 
  Greetings,
 
  Siegfried
 
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Re: fennec -force-depends doesn't help

2008-11-18 Thread Carl Lobo
hi,
opkg -nodeps worked for me. :)

the text on the screen is extremely blurred. does anyone have any tips
to fix that?


On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 6:44 AM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Leonti Bielski wrote:
 Hi!
 I'm trying to install fennec on my beloved Neo.
 I have added angstrom-distribution.org feed and try to do opkg install fennec
 It give me gtk eror similar to this one
 http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/device-owners/2007-November/000759.html

 Download the ipk file, extract it somewhere with dpkg -x fennec*.ipk .;
 then copy your ./usr/lib/fennec to the phone and run it from there...

 This works without any opkg trick...

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Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-18 Thread Dale Maggee
Tig wrote:
 Ok I will bite :)

 Q:  Why did OM cross the road?
 A:  To get to another toolkit :)

 Q:  How many OM devs does it take to change a lightbulb?
 A:  Well first we need to abandon the old lightbulb holder because at a later
 date we may not be able to plug a floodlight in,  bring in a new lightbulb
 holder and adapt it to multiple floodlights,  meanwhile the engineering team 
 has
 realized that this will only run green floodlights and has started rewiring 
 the
 whole house.. :)  The burnt out lightbulb is due to be fixed at a later date 
 :) 

 Please not this is not a cue for a thread on lightbulb analogies :)

 Q:  What is the difference between a professional photographer and OM user?
 A:  The OM user has to flash more often :)

 Q:  Why did the OM newbie log onto #openmoko?
 A:  Because they had not read:
 a)  the wiki
 and
 b)  the topic

 As then they would know you slide your finder up on the keyboard to get 
 the
 numbers to enter your sim pin.

 I will be here all week,  try the salad :)

 Regards (apologies for posting via gmane moving e-mail around) 


   
Hehe, love the lightbulb one!

Q: What's the difference between an iphone and a freerunner?
A: One works but takes away your freedom, the other is free but needs 
your work

Knock, Knock
Who's There?
A Neo User
A Neo User

Q: What did the Neo say to the insomniac?
A: At least when you go to sleep you know you'll wake up!

Ancient chinese proverb: Neo owner is man carrying wall charger

And I've saved my favorite for last:

Q: What's the difference between a brick and a freerunner?
A: A brick isn't designed to make phone calls.

;)

-Dale

(All in good fun)

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Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-18 Thread Nicola Mfb
2008/11/14 Minh Ha Duong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   I hope the software stack becomes less of a joke in time for GTA03
   or it'll be hard to get much new customers...

 Actually I have never read any jokes about the software stack. But it is a
 sign of good mental health when a community is able to make fun of itself.
 Besides, where else would one share jokes about Openmoko ? Open fire !


Yes! When someone asks me if it's a good idea to give a try to gentoo (my
preferred distro) I point them to:
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Gentoo
:)

May we start an openmoko page there :)

   Nicola
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Re: How to use links-x11?

2008-11-18 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Leonti Bielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 But when I try to run it with links I get Illegal instruction all the 
 time.
 Do I need to install something else?

Which instruction is it?

Use gdb --args links
run
bt
x/4i $pc
info register
quit


to find out


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Re: For Sale: Neo Freerunner

2008-11-18 Thread shawn sullivan
This phone is still for sale. Lowering price to $300 OBO. I'll include 
shipping inside the continental US.

Thanks!

shawn sullivan wrote:
 Gang,
 
 I'm selling my 850Mhz Neo Freerunner. This was part of the 10 pack that 
 we bought, so it has the extra goodies. This will include:
 Phone
 wired headset
 neoprene case
 512 card
 stylus
 charger
 usb connector for computer
 Full Body Invisible Protector (currently applied to the phone)
 
 There is absolutely nothing wrong with the phone. There is not a scratch 
 on either the screen or the body. I simply don't have time to dedicate 
 to it.
 
 I'm in Colorado at 80226. I would prefer to ship this only within the 
 US. I'm asking $350. Please email me off list if you are interested or 
 have questions.
 
 thanks!
 
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Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-18 Thread Nicola Mfb
2008/11/17 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [...]

no - it's not possible to do a scroll (via blit) as you have
 alpha channels, layered objects etc. etc. - just trust me in that the cost
 of
 trying to figure out a blit - if it is possible is probably much higher
 than
 the cost of just doing a redraw in almost all cases - the upload speed of
 the
 glamo is so low though that it may just be worth it...


I understand and trust your huge experience :), so correct me where wrong,
I'm not expert but I'd like to have an high level view on this:

*) standard toolkit do complex operation so it's simple/better recompute and
upload the view, this means that porting existing software based on them may
result in slow performance.
*) toolkits that advantages of OpenGL to accelerate its widgets (for example
Qt let you choose an opengl viewport for their canvas implementation)  does
not advantage as Glamo has only 2d acceleration.
*) when necessary you can use directly Xlib because X is 2d accelerated ?
*) when necessary you may use lowlevel library/toolkit to bypass X overhead
and use accelerated 2d graphics (sdl?) ?
*) about video streams, bandwidth is not an issue if decoding mpeg4 in
glamo, but is a issue if you decode the stream with the main CPU and upload
the frames to the glamo?
*) glamo will be abandoned, the cost to develop a 3d driver is very high,
what's about completing 2d acceleration and mpeg4 hardware decoding?
*) the community may produce now or at later time the wanted 3d driver, but
this is hard as openmoko has to extend the nda in some legal way

Regards

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Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-18 Thread Nicola Mfb
2008/11/17 Iain B. Findleton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I have implemented an image display script on the FR that demonstrates
 smooth scroll in the form of dragging the image about the screen. Works
 for fairly large images (colour weather maps of North America). The
 application uses the FLTK tool kit with double buffering through X.


May you share it?

Thanks

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Re: Toolchain opkg postinst Error

2008-11-18 Thread Michael Tansella
 install libqtcore4
 Reinstalling libqtcore4 (4.4.3-r1.1) on root...
 Downloading http://www.angstrom-
 distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libqtcore4_4.4.3-
 r1.1_armv4t.ipk
 Configuring libqtcore4
 (offline root mode: not running libqtcore4.postinst)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/openmoko/arm/bin#

This error message is OK because postinst processes are disabled in toolchain
I found the real problem.
Until now I only had to install metapackage qt-x11-free, but because of 
dependancy issues with qt4opengl it doesnt't install correct.
Now I just indtalled the dev packages of the libraries (ie libQtCore-dev) by 
hand  and now it works.

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Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-18 Thread Iain B. Findleton
No problem, although my setup is not opkg ready yet. As my stuff uses
Tcl, libjpeg,libpng,libtiff, the setup is not pretty yet, but if you are
a Linux handyman type, it can be done. Otherwise, it will have to wait
until I get around to package it all up...

Nicola Mfb wrote:
 2008/11/17 Iain B. Findleton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I have implemented an image display script on the FR that demonstrates
 smooth scroll in the form of dragging the image about the screen.
 Works
 for fairly large images (colour weather maps of North America). The
 application uses the FLTK tool kit with double buffering through X.


 May you share it?

 Thanks
  
 Nicola
 

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Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-18 Thread Petr Vanek
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:58:41 -0500
Iain B. Findleton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (IBF) wrote:

No problem, although my setup is not opkg ready yet. As my stuff uses
Tcl, libjpeg,libpng,libtiff, the setup is not pretty yet, but if you
are a Linux handyman type, it can be done. Otherwise, it will have to
wait until I get around to package it all up...

Yes please, do share anyways,

thank you

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Re: What theme is this?

2008-11-18 Thread Tilman Baumann
Richy wrote:
 I think hire did create the colorful theme.
 You should be able to catch him in #openmoko-cdevel

I did. It was not him.

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Re: What theme is this?

2008-11-18 Thread Richy
Oh! Sorry for that.

Where can I get it though?

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 17:50, Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Richy wrote:
  I think hire did create the colorful theme.
  You should be able to catch him in #openmoko-cdevel

 I did. It was not him.

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Re: What theme is this?

2008-11-18 Thread Julien Cassignol
The grey theme was done by BluesLee on #openmoko-cdevel, for SHR.
It'll be packaged as soon as I have some spare time :-)

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Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-18 Thread Iain B. Findleton
Okay, for those of you who would like to test out this thing on your FR,
you can get an ipk from the fltkwish project on sourceforge.net. Once
you have Tcl on your phone (opkg install tcl), and the required
graphics libraries, you can do a quick test with the following script:

#!/bin/sh
# \
exec fltkwish $0 ${1+$@}
#
# Create an Image widget and load up a file
#
Image t.t -f myfile.jpg -w 460 -h 570 -autoscale false -center false;

Show t

You can now drag the image about with your finger, or pen. On my machine
the dragging is nice and smooth. You should have an image that is bigger
than the display screen to fully appreciate the results.

If you have troubles, and if you have read the documentation and still
have troubles, feel free to contact me.

Iain F.



Petr Vanek wrote:
 On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:58:41 -0500
 Iain B. Findleton
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (IBF) wrote:

   
 No problem, although my setup is not opkg ready yet. As my stuff uses
 Tcl, libjpeg,libpng,libtiff, the setup is not pretty yet, but if you
 are a Linux handyman type, it can be done. Otherwise, it will have to
 wait until I get around to package it all up...
 

 Yes please, do share anyways,

 thank you

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Re: [android] new version with page flipping corrected.

2008-11-18 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Cédric Berger wrote:
 I tried the version Sean published yesterday (without video codecs,
 but broken and not available anymore). And I put back the missing lib
 preventing it to start.

Please could you share them somewhere? :P

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[Om2008.9] gsmspeakerout.state

2008-11-18 Thread Matthias Apitz

Hello,

Anybody has a good file to use the speaker as output during a phone
call? I think the idea is to load this with

# alsactl -f gsmspeakerout.state restore

before placing a call, I'm wrong? Or is there some other magic way?
Thx

matthias

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Re: [Om2008.9] gsmspeakerout.state

2008-11-18 Thread photonmedia
I'm not entirely sure this helps, but I just noticed with SHR release, the 
speakerphone works! Maybe you could use the configuration from there?

James
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Hello,

Anybody has a good file to use the speaker as output during a phone
call? I think the idea is to load this with

# alsactl -f gsmspeakerout.state restore

before placing a call, I'm wrong? Or is there some other magic way?
Thx

matthias

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Re: [Om2008.9] gsmspeakerout.state

2008-11-18 Thread Johny Tenfinger
 Anybody has a good file to use the speaker as output during a phone
 call? I think the idea is to load this with

 # alsactl -f gsmspeakerout.state restore

 before placing a call, I'm wrong? Or is there some other magic way?

In 2007.2 you have button, which exactly call that command what you
write. I don't know how do it on other distros, but in Qtopia/QT
Extended (so, I think, the same way is in 2008.9) it was in menu
during call. You can load this state file when phone call is active,
not only before it.
dos

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Re: fennec -force-depends doesn't help

2008-11-18 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Carl Lobo wrote:
 the text on the screen is extremely blurred. does anyone have any tips
 to fix that?

Give a look to this [1]. BTW that's due mostly to the fact that the
illume keyboard pop-ups automatically and that this makes Fennec
resizing the web page to a lower value than the maximum possible. As
soon as you hide the keyboard you've to wait fennec to redraw the page
to the newer Fennec size.
I figure that this is the case in which an on-top-only keyboard could
help.

[1] http://n2.nabble.com/Fennec-on-Openmoko-tp781547p1350938.html

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Freerunner's GSM Calypso Modem Firmware Upgrade...

2008-11-18 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
This is just to notify the community users who don't read the devel
list: Joerg, Dieter and Werner set up some tools to upgrade the firmware
of the GSM Modem of the Frerunner (TI Calypso) to a newer image [1].

If you're affected by the infamous #666 - No SIM found - bug, you could
try to upgrade your phone's firmware using the tools provided by OM guys
to the moko10 (beta2) version [2].

Look at the wiki [3] for more help and keep us (and the Devs) informed!

[1] http://n2.nabble.com/Calypso-firmware-update-tp1503771p1513061.html
[2] They're closed, but it's not an OM fault, and I think we should
thank them for this too.
[3] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing

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Re: [Om2008.9] gsmspeakerout.state

2008-11-18 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm not entirely sure this helps, but I just noticed with SHR release,
 the speakerphone works! Maybe you could use the configuration from there?

I can confirm this both for Om2008 and SHR, but is there a way to
improve the sound volume?

It's too low to be used... Using it while driving my car is practically
impossible since I can't hear anything... :| (not to mention the fact
that in this case the echo is not fixed by the modem hidden command).

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Re: How to use links-x11?

2008-11-18 Thread Leonti Bielski
Hi! Thanks for answering.
gdb --args links gives me 'Segmentations fault' :(

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Re: [Om2008.9] gsmspeakerout.state

2008-11-18 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Tuesday, November 18, 2008 a las 07:42:16PM +0100, Johny Tenfinger 
escribió:

  Anybody has a good file to use the speaker as output during a phone
  call? I think the idea is to load this with
 
  # alsactl -f gsmspeakerout.state restore
 
  before placing a call, I'm wrong? Or is there some other magic way?
 
 In 2007.2 you have button, which exactly call that command what you
 write. I don't know how do it on other distros, but in Qtopia/QT
 Extended (so, I think, the same way is in 2008.9) it was in menu
 during call. You can load this state file when phone call is active,
 not only before it.
 dos

I've played around with it and it seems:
- if you load the above file before the call it is reseted to the values
  of 'gsmhandset.state'
- if you load the above file after placing the dial, i.e. during the
  call, it works: the speakerout is used;

there is a lot of 'acoustic feedback' between the micro and the speaker
and perhaps one must have a look into the values in the file; will have
a look into the files ot Qtopia and others...

creating a desktop icon for switching to/from speakerout is the
simplest task :-)

matthias

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Re: [Om2008.9] gsmspeakerout.state

2008-11-18 Thread photonmedia
I can only suggest running alsamixer via ssh and upping the volume. That or 
install pymixer.


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm not entirely sure this helps, but I just noticed with SHR release,
 the speakerphone works! Maybe you could use the configuration from there?

I can confirm this both for Om2008 and SHR, but is there a way to
improve the sound volume?

It's too low to be used... Using it while driving my car is practically
impossible since I can't hear anything... :| (not to mention the fact
that in this case the echo is not fixed by the modem hidden command).

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Re: [android] new version with page flipping corrected.

2008-11-18 Thread Cédric Berger
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 19:36, Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cédric Berger wrote:
 I tried the version Sean published yesterday (without video codecs,
 but broken and not available anymore). And I put back the missing lib
 preventing it to start.

 Please could you share them somewhere? :P

well I presume I'm not allowed to :-p 

anyway I haven't them  here just now and won't have internet access
till tomorrow.

If you still have the 2 jffs2 images... I did reflash old one,
extracted libs, then flashed again new image

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Re: Volume, a kingdom for a volume lever...

2008-11-18 Thread Levy A. M. Sant'Anna
 Then again, maybe Its just me who cannot find this feature in any of the
 Distributions available...

On Debian I use the xfce volume applet, it's easy and fast with stylus pen.

Look at the screenshot:
http://levysantanna.blogspot.com/2008/11/screenshots-debian-com-xfce-no.html

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Re: [Om2008.9] gsmspeakerout.state

2008-11-18 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I can only suggest running alsamixer via ssh and upping the volume. That or 
 install pymixer.

I've already all to maximum values... -_-
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Re: Freerunner's GSM Calypso Modem Firmware Upgrade...

2008-11-18 Thread Richy
If I don't suffer from #1024 nor #666. Are there any other advantages, or is
it useless to do the flashing then?

Thanks

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Re: is FDOM unstable

2008-11-18 Thread Levy A. M. Sant'Anna
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 19:29, Atilla Filiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello
 I was trying my FR as my primary phone for one week. It went good with
 QTextended 4.4.1. Today, I decided to try FDOM. It is really nice that it
 comes withh the apss and fixes I would manually install anyway but it
 occasionally freezes, doesn't receive calls in time, and some apps(remoko,
 moocow etc.) simply won't start.

Hi all,
I simply don't know what is going on before launch a new version of FDOM!

Remoko was working with the last image but before launch the last
images it was not tested again.

The GPS Sub-Menu was not tested too, because it is one which still
working after choose an app, making impossible open a new Sub-Menu,
unlike Config Sub-Menu that work smoothly.

We should make a RC before launch a FDOM or something; FDOM is so cool
and have so much potential that I try to use it every day, all the
apps.

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[Paroli] Update #3

2008-11-18 Thread Mirko Lindner
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Hi,

A quick update on things happening on the paroli-front.

In short the svn is growing in size and so is the wiki.

I just uploaded a new version of the paroli-dialer application which
makes use of of edje rather than a toolkit.

This version of the dialer shows a new dial-pad design, implements a
dummy contacts list and allows to call a person from the contact list.

This is a version without functionality, but implementing this is not
difficult and the dialer has been written to be easily adapted to
actually work.

The reason for this non-working is that the tichy-fso components do
currently not work on the testing image and thus the phone doesn't
register on a network. As soon as that is solved we'll implement the
functions needed.

But nevertheless this application shows very well were paroli is headed
right now and forms a very nice basis for discussions.

I hope we get some more applications or at least their respective GUIs
up in the svn this week to have a basis to build a first paroli package
installable via opkg :)

More updates on this and other issues soon ;)

/mirko
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Re: [Om2008.9] gsmspeakerout.state

2008-11-18 Thread Matthias Apitz

Switching the FR to

# alsactl -f gsmspeakerout.state restore

without doing a phone call, makes the FR 'unreachable' in network;
switching it now back to

# alsactl -f gsmhandset.state restore

makes it receiving the call but it does not RING anymore; one must kill and
restart 'qpe' to get RING again;

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Re: [Paroli] Update #3

2008-11-18 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Mirko Lindner wrote:
 I just uploaded a new version of the paroli-dialer application which
 makes use of of edje rather than a toolkit.
 
 This version of the dialer shows a new dial-pad design, implements a
 dummy contacts list and allows to call a person from the contact list.
 
 This is a version without functionality, but implementing this is not
 difficult and the dialer has been written to be easily adapted to
 actually work.
 
 The reason for this non-working is that the tichy-fso components do
 currently not work on the testing image and thus the phone doesn't
 register on a network. As soon as that is solved we'll implement the
 functions needed.

Well, today I've followed your RunParoli wiki to get it working in my
phone. I've used SHR as base updating the FSO framework and getting
tichy and paroli from upstream (respectively from svn and git).

Well, after applying the changes you've suggested I wasn't able to get
Paroli running but only tichy-etk... Maybe my guy.py wasn't correct
(since it doesn't seem to reflect the wiki), so please could you provide
a fresh explanation?

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Re: Calling interested Glamo OpenGL developers (was: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL)

2008-11-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:01:51 +0100 Nicola Mfb [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:

 2008/11/17 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  [...]
 
 no - it's not possible to do a scroll (via blit) as you have
  alpha channels, layered objects etc. etc. - just trust me in that the cost
  of
  trying to figure out a blit - if it is possible is probably much higher
  than
  the cost of just doing a redraw in almost all cases - the upload speed of
  the
  glamo is so low though that it may just be worth it...
 
 
 I understand and trust your huge experience :), so correct me where wrong,
 I'm not expert but I'd like to have an high level view on this:
 
 *) standard toolkit do complex operation so it's simple/better recompute and
 upload the view, this means that porting existing software based on them may
 result in slow performance.

it depends. its a tradeoff of flexibility and power to change the look and feel
of things vs cost.

 *) toolkits that advantages of OpenGL to accelerate its widgets (for example
 Qt let you choose an opengl viewport for their canvas implementation)  does
 not advantage as Glamo has only 2d acceleration.

evas supports opengl too. no it doesn't have an advantage, as glamo won't be
doing opengl at VGA (the resolution of the device) so you won't be doing it for
normal 2D UI's (thus my comments of it being of limited use for some fullscreen
games for example where you drop to QVGA for the game). also the 256x256 max
texture size leads to problems even if it could do VGA output. you'd need to
now do texture meshes - and these are nasty if you want scaling to work right
(with interpolation and/or mipmaps, anisotropic filtering etc. etc. - in the
more general case).

 *) when necessary you can use directly Xlib because X is 2d accelerated ?

you ALWAYS use xlib* - if you want to interact with x in any way.

(* or xcb... or write your own x protocol but same - both are x protocol wrapper
libraries.)

 *) when necessary you may use lowlevel library/toolkit to bypass X overhead
 and use accelerated 2d graphics (sdl?) ?

sdl offers screen setup - not acceleration (really - ok for some specific
things it wraps that too - but not in general). sdl USES x. same as anyone else
(i am ignoring using sdl on the framebuffer - that's no different to using the
fb directly).

 *) about video streams, bandwidth is not an issue if decoding mpeg4 in
 glamo, but is a issue if you decode the stream with the main CPU and upload
 the frames to the glamo?

yes. it's an issue in this case. decoding mpeg4 on glamo is problematic due to
audio not being decoded on the glamo and having to synchronise. all uploads to
video block the cpu so you have no cycles to decode the next frame while
uploading the current one (slowly). same with ANY pixel uploads.

 *) glamo will be abandoned, the cost to develop a 3d driver is very high,
 what's about completing 2d acceleration and mpeg4 hardware decoding?

imho it'd dubiously useful - sure. it works. the audio issues, synchronisation,
there being no standard x extension/mechanism to upload codec data (having to
invent one - this is though a very worthy idea) etc.

 *) the community may produce now or at later time the wanted 3d driver, but
 this is hard as openmoko has to extend the nda in some legal way

om can't. unless you work for om. smedia control the nda - not om.

 Regards
 
 Nicola
 


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Re: The forbidden topic: Glamo OpenGL

2008-11-18 Thread George Brooke
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:01:47 +1100
Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tig wrote:
  Ok I will bite :)
 
  Q:  Why did OM cross the road?
  A:  To get to another toolkit :)
 
  Q:  How many OM devs does it take to change a lightbulb?
  A:  Well first we need to abandon the old lightbulb holder because
  at a later date we may not be able to plug a floodlight in,  bring
  in a new lightbulb holder and adapt it to multiple floodlights,
  meanwhile the engineering team has realized that this will only run
  green floodlights and has started rewiring the whole house.. :)
  The burnt out lightbulb is due to be fixed at a later date :) 
 
  Please not this is not a cue for a thread on lightbulb analogies :)
 
  Q:  What is the difference between a professional photographer and
  OM user? A:  The OM user has to flash more often :)
 
  Q:  Why did the OM newbie log onto #openmoko?
  A:  Because they had not read:
  a)  the wiki
  and
  b)  the topic
 
  As then they would know you slide your finder up on the
  keyboard to get the numbers to enter your sim pin.
 
  I will be here all week,  try the salad :)
 
  Regards (apologies for posting via gmane moving e-mail around) 
 
 

 Hehe, love the lightbulb one!
 
 Q: What's the difference between an iphone and a freerunner?
 A: One works but takes away your freedom, the other is free but needs 
 your work
 
 Knock, Knock
 Who's There?
 A Neo User
 A Neo User
 
 Q: What did the Neo say to the insomniac?
 A: At least when you go to sleep you know you'll wake up!
 
 Ancient chinese proverb: Neo owner is man carrying wall charger
 
 And I've saved my favorite for last:
 
 Q: What's the difference between a brick and a freerunner?
 A: A brick isn't designed to make phone calls.
 
 ;)
 
 -Dale
 
 (All in good fun)

Maybe these should appear on the splash screen of the Neos

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Re: is FDOM unstable

2008-11-18 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2008/11/18 Levy A. M. Sant'Anna [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 19:29, Atilla Filiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello
 I was trying my FR as my primary phone for one week. It went good with
 QTextended 4.4.1. Today, I decided to try FDOM. It is really nice that it
 comes withh the apss and fixes I would manually install anyway but it
 occasionally freezes, doesn't receive calls in time, and some apps(remoko,
 moocow etc.) simply won't start.

 Hi all,
 I simply don't know what is going on before launch a new version of FDOM!

 Remoko was working with the last image but before launch the last
 images it was not tested again.
The last image was generated from a standard 2008.9 image executing
the FDOMizer script.
I forget to add a the opkg install  necessary library in FDOMizer

 The GPS Sub-Menu was not tested too, because it is one which still
 working after choose an app, making impossible open a new Sub-Menu,
 unlike Config Sub-Menu that work smoothly.
Strange, I will take a look, because in theory is the same script with
different params :-/

 We should make a RC before launch a FDOM or something;
I totally agree and we are working hard to have a beter infrastructure
to be able to make a more solid FDOM (well as solid as a bunch of
volunteers guided by a noob can be) and as the community news letter
announce we will build the next FDOM release using OpenEbedded tools.
Trying to make it more reliable on versioning and able to update
trough opkg update/upgrade
FDOM is so cool
 and have so much potential that I try to use it every day, all the
 apps.
Tanks a lot :) feel free to join the devel list to discuss about
pre-release policy if one day is any  :)

 []s
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Re: [Paroli] Update #3

2008-11-18 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
good news :) , I want to try this as soon as you have a package ready
to install even if is not working , only to see what it looks like I'm
very curious on this paroli-tichy tandem.

2008/11/18 Mirko Lindner [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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 Hi,

 A quick update on things happening on the paroli-front.

 In short the svn is growing in size and so is the wiki.

 I just uploaded a new version of the paroli-dialer application which
 makes use of of edje rather than a toolkit.

 This version of the dialer shows a new dial-pad design, implements a
 dummy contacts list and allows to call a person from the contact list.

 This is a version without functionality, but implementing this is not
 difficult and the dialer has been written to be easily adapted to
 actually work.

 The reason for this non-working is that the tichy-fso components do
 currently not work on the testing image and thus the phone doesn't
 register on a network. As soon as that is solved we'll implement the
 functions needed.

 But nevertheless this application shows very well were paroli is headed
 right now and forms a very nice basis for discussions.

 I hope we get some more applications or at least their respective GUIs
 up in the svn this week to have a basis to build a first paroli package
 installable via opkg :)

 More updates on this and other issues soon ;)

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Re: Freerunner's GSM Calypso Modem Firmware Upgrade...

2008-11-18 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Tuesday 18 November 2008 21:09:13 schrieb Richy:
 If I don't suffer from #1024 nor #666. Are there any other advantages, or
 is it useless to do the flashing then?

Mostly useless, then. The improvements wrt. +CSIM won't affect basic 
operation.

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Re: [Paroli] Update #3

2008-11-18 Thread Guillaume Chereau
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 22:13 +0100, Mirko Lindner wrote:
 This is a version without functionality, but implementing this is not
 difficult and the dialer has been written to be easily adapted to
 actually work.
 
 The reason for this non-working is that the tichy-fso components do
 currently not work on the testing image and thus the phone doesn't
 register on a network. As soon as that is solved we'll implement the
 functions needed.
Should be fixed on last git version of tichy. See this commit for the
fix:
http://git.openmoko.org/?p=tichy.git;a=commit;h=75ce9fa91083fea79e64a155ce809c0bb57b24c1

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luvcview and uvccapture problem

2008-11-18 Thread g9612753
Hi,

I'm trying to make the Logitech quickcam pro for notebooks(046d:0991) work on 
the freerunner. After cross-compiling the uvcvideo driver, luvcview and 
uvccapture, I copied them from my PC into the freerunner. Everything seems OK, 
but I didn't see any images on the freerunner's screen when executing luvcview. 
Terminal shows:

Video driver: x11
A window manager is available
video /dev/video0
Segmentation fault

I got the Segmentation fault message on the freerunner's terminal when 
executing uvccapture, too. Anyone could give me a hand to solve this problem?

Thanks,
centuries

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Re: [Paroli] Update #3

2008-11-18 Thread Guillaume Chereau
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 22:52 +0100, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
 Well, today I've followed your RunParoli wiki to get it working in my
 phone. I've used SHR as base updating the FSO framework and getting
 tichy and paroli from upstream (respectively from svn and git).
 
 Well, after applying the changes you've suggested I wasn't able to get
 Paroli running but only tichy-etk... Maybe my guy.py wasn't correct
 (since it doesn't seem to reflect the wiki), so please could you
 provide
 a fresh explanation?
 

I modified gui.py so that we can select backends without manually
modifying the code.

It relies on a global variable so I don't like it so much, but couldn't
think of a better way to modify the behavior of a module at import time
(well I could import all backends, and then dynamically decide which one
to use, but that would be wasting memory for nothing)

This commit allow us to set the backend by setting the global variable
'tichy_gui_backend' from the main script :
http://git.openmoko.org/?p=tichy.git;a=commit;h=9b41828f1de05af0183d66c1b46397c0133f831c

This one allow us to use command line option in tichy to do so
(e.g. ./tichy --gui-backend=etk)
http://git.openmoko.org/?p=tichy.git;a=commit;h=c0af0cce3f3567e92378827f8955c53e1a67165e

And this one allow use to use paroli specific backend (even though it is
not in tichy tree yet):
http://git.openmoko.org/?p=tichy.git;a=commit;h=2fe69ed611082770f8200183aa83c308ea55bf9c

So now we can just add the line :

tichy_gui_backends = ['paroli']

In the main script of paroli to use the correct gui backend.

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Re: fennec -force-depends doesn't help

2008-11-18 Thread Carl Lobo
Thanks for the help. It renders much better now. Still crashes with an
illegal instruction.
incase this helps:
bt = 0x404faf24 in ?? ()
(gdb) x/5i $pc
0x404faf24: fmsrs14, r7
0x404faf28: fsitod  d0, s14
0x404faf2c: vstrd0, [r11, #-8]
0x404faf30: str r7, [r8, #2008]
0x404faf34: str r7, [r5]



On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:23 AM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Carl Lobo wrote:
 the text on the screen is extremely blurred. does anyone have any tips
 to fix that?

 Give a look to this [1]. BTW that's due mostly to the fact that the
 illume keyboard pop-ups automatically and that this makes Fennec
 resizing the web page to a lower value than the maximum possible. As
 soon as you hide the keyboard you've to wait fennec to redraw the page
 to the newer Fennec size.
 I figure that this is the case in which an on-top-only keyboard could
 help.

 [1] http://n2.nabble.com/Fennec-on-Openmoko-tp781547p1350938.html

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Re: [Om2008.9] gsmspeakerout.state

2008-11-18 Thread Carl Lobo
I think you need to restore the gsm*.state files only when you are on
call. the ringing from speaker requires mappings from stereoout.state.

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:54 AM, Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Switching the FR to

 # alsactl -f gsmspeakerout.state restore

 without doing a phone call, makes the FR 'unreachable' in network;
 switching it now back to

 # alsactl -f gsmhandset.state restore

 makes it receiving the call but it does not RING anymore; one must kill and
 restart 'qpe' to get RING again;

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Re: [Om2008.9] gsmspeakerout.state

2008-11-18 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Wednesday, November 19, 2008 a las 08:46:27AM +0530, Carl Lobo escribió:

 I think you need to restore the gsm*.state files only when you are on
 call. the ringing from speaker requires mappings from stereoout.state.

Ok, I think that without deeper knowledge about the files I'm lost. Can
some kindly soul sheet a bit light into this darkness? I.e.
- Why there are different files?
- Which process is reading them, in which order and when?

The Wiki http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem
speaks about 'states' like 'State: GSM - Built-in Handset (file
gsmhandset.state)', but does not explain what a given 'state' is and how
the transit between them happens...

Thx

matthias

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Re: What theme is this?

2008-11-18 Thread Joop Boonen
 The grey theme was done by BluesLee on #openmoko-cdevel, for SHR.
 It'll be packaged as soon as I have some spare time :-)

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That's great to hear. :)

Thanks.

Regards,

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