FLAC (was Re: [OT]Software patents end? ??:) ligh t at the end of tunnel)
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:06:30 +1000, Denis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Atilla Filiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mp3 is also a lossy format. so other formats are not lower quality. The thing is, converting from one format to another is also a lossy operation itself. So if you convert an ogg music to mp3, you may also end up with slightly worse file. If I may add, I recommend that your music collection should be ripped and archived from CD using FLAC http://flac.sourceforge.net/. Preferably using something like http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/ (if someone knows a Linux equivalent please chime in) Only if your device does not support FLAC playback, convert from FLAC to whatever is best for the device. Although I don't know if the FR supports FLAC, does anyone know ? cheers Denis Annoyingly, no, not at the moment - at least not that I can find in OM/FSO/SHR repos. Primarily we need gst-plugin-flac (plus any dependencies) so gstreamer groks flac. Angstrom has that package but not for armv4, while they do have other flac libs for armv4 so I presume it's feasible. The lack of an armv4 gst plugin at Angstrom makes me wonder if there's some assembly code involved. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rotate single application
It seems the most feasible solution is to ask the developer of the application for a self-rotating mode. On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 2:12 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:53:01 + Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Thursday 27 November 2008, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 03:04:03 +0300 Alexander Chemeris [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 2:39 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:43:49 +0300 Alexander Chemeris [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Bernd Prünster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexander Chemeris schrieb: Is there any possibility to rotate screen for a selected application? Now I use xrandr -o 1 app xrandr -o 0 to run application in landscape mode, but this rotates screen for the whole system. I rather want to rotate single application window. sure it is, just make shellscript which does the rotation, then launches the application an then rotates tzhe screen back. you can also change the keycode for the aux button just for one application in the same way! (just look at the scummvm wiki page if you want to have a good example!) That's exactly what I'm doing - xrandr -o 1 app xrandr -o 0 But this change screen orientation for the whole X. If you tap on the top, choose Home, you'll see it also rotated. What I'm asking for is an ability to rotate a single aplpication, leaving illume and other apps in portrait orientation. Btw, thanks for pointing to ScummVM, I should try this. :) you will need to make the app itself handle its own rotated drawing. it's up to the app. That's what I expected. I wonder why there are still no such feature in illume. A handful of applications want this. nothing to do with illume. this is x. apps draw their own window contents and handle their own window even inputs. the app would need to rotate its own draws and translate all input even co-ordinates. I was thinking of a window manager plugin that applies rotation when the window is activated. Compiz can apply many of its effects selectively according to application (window name?) so I'm guessing wildly that calling an xrandr setting by name on change of active window should be possible. Then again I know nothing abut the internals of window managers... that would require xevie (so every mouse event go through the compositor and it can try translate (rotate them), so you will add more latency to mouse events), and compositing (which will slow down rendering as all rendering now has to happen to a backing pixmap) AND you will not have accelerated rotates/transforms as xrender is unaccelerated on glamo - so your output will become nice and slow... really slow. as such you could selectively rotate thew WHOLE screen if a particular window is focused, but e has no such code - a module could be written that does just that. but then the keyboard, top-bar etc. will also rotate. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT]Software patents end? ??:) light at the end of tunnel
On Thu, November 27, 2008 7:06 am, Denis Johnson wrote: ... Preferably using something like http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/ (if someone knows a Linux equivalent please chime in) The linux equivalent is cdparanoia. Like EAC it will produce bit perfect rips of audio CDs. It is a command line program If you want a GUI, then you can use Grip. It is a GTK based program that automates the whole process of ripping, track listing lookups, and transcoding to your prefered compressed format. If you have a big stack of CDs to rip, then you can easily sit there using your computer for other things, and feed in a new CD every few minutes. -- David Pottage Error compiling committee.c To many arguments to function. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] Where to set Illume's preferences?
Chris Hogan wrote:
Not sure if anyone else followed this up, but this was bugging me as
well. I have no idea how to tell Illume to prefer one keyboard layout
over the rest, but I was able to work around it. The keyboard layouts
are stored in:
/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards
I moved the default one ('Default.kbd') out of the way (renamed it to
'Default.bak', in case something goes wrong and i need it back), then
renamed 'Terminal.kbd' to 'Default.kbd'. It's a dodgy fix but it
worked for me... the terminal layout now appears by default.
Chris.
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Minh Ha Duong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the 'querty' icon brings up keyboard, with most recently used layout;
how can I configure the 'Terminal' is the one which comes up
with the PIN dialog ?
I have the same question. I would like the Terminal layout to always show
when I use the terminal. So is there a way to tell illume's keyboard:
THIS application uses THAT layout ?
Dirty solution, but still thanks.
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Re: Rotate single application
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Atilla Filiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems the most feasible solution is to ask the developer of the application for a self-rotating mode. Does anyone know how to do this in Qt? -- Regards, Alexander Chemeris. SIPez LLC. SIP VoIP, IM and Presence Consulting http://www.SIPez.com tel: +1 (617) 273-4000 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO M4 - nice GSM sound
I confirm that this is working (and needed) for current SHR images as well.
Solves the greatest issue of them all.
A bit of advertising for SHR: I consider the current SHR as good as
phone-ready (except for the integration between dialer, sms and contacts)!
:-)
Franky
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Richy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for that message: it's working great! YEAH, now I can actually start
calling people again ;)
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:24, superalex
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, I'm using FSO since yesterday and found that the famous echo bug was
still appearing. I found a solution that is working for me based in the
2008.8 one.
In file
/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/unsolicited.py,
function percentCPI, line 210 aprox
Where it says:
info = {}
I have:
devchannel =
self._object.modem.communicationChannel(DeviceMediator)
devchannel.enqueue( %N0187 )
info = {}
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Re: [Debian -FSO -GPS] No Fix
Yesterday I flashed the latest SHR image and the problem has disappeared, everything is working fine again. I don't know where the problem was as before flashing I was doing an opkg update/upgrade everyday and the issue was still there. ant wrote: My FSO 4.1 is running the fso-gpsd too. The only oddity with mine is that it lives on the SD card. I deliberately kept everything clean as far as the install goes - I just installed tangoGPS after installing FSO 4.1, then when the GPS didn't work I did a opkg update/upgrade on 24th and tried it again, then I enabled logging and reported on my findings. Anyone got any pointers ? I'm a bit of a noob with the freerunner though I've been sysadmining on Linux for, um, more years than I care to remember :-) On Tuesday 25 November 2008 22:13:08 Julien Cassignol wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 10:24 PM, glownan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm using SHR and having the same problem. SHR latest image was shipped with gpsd instead of fso-gpsd. Just opkg remove --force-depends gpsd; opkg install fso-gpsd and it'll work. Future images will be corrected. -- Antony King - 01908 268 901 Systems Consultant SolutionTrax Technologies - http://www.solutiontrax.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Debian--FSO--GPS--No-Fix-tp1521077p1584706.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO M4 - nice GSM sound
I didn't do this for my SHR and I have no echo. But a person I'm talking to hear an echo. Does this fix my echo (which I don't have anyway) or an echo for another person? Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] OnScreen Keyboard
Rui Castro wrote: Hi, I implemented an OnScreen Keyboard in the Android framework. It works with all applications and it's possible to answer calls :) I already uploaded the changes to Android repository, here ( http://review.source.android.com/4801) and here ( http://review.source.android.com/3087). I've tried to upload all the changes at the same time, but something went wrong :) I don't expect the changes to be merged in the android official code because they are developing their own IMF and also because my implementation is very simplistic, it's just to be able to use Android until the IMF is ready. I've attached some screenshots of the keyboard in several applications running on the emulator. Now, I just need someone (Sean/Brian) to create an image for Neo :) Please hurry!!! :D PS: I removed the attached photos, because the last message is stuck because of the message size :) You can view them here http://picasaweb.google.pt/rui.castro/AndroidOnScreenKeyboard# Rui Castro ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Fantastic! Good Job man :D -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Android--OnScreen-Keyboard-tp1583918p1585067.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO M4 - nice GSM sound
the echo of the other person. On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Leonti Bielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't do this for my SHR and I have no echo. But a person I'm talking to hear an echo. Does this fix my echo (which I don't have anyway) or an echo for another person? Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fix no-icon for Calculator: Where to post a patch?
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 05:53:00PM +0300, Alexander Chemeris wrote:
Hi,
Attached patch fixes problem with openmoko-calculator2 BitBake recipe,
which points incorrect icon location. Thus no icon were shipped with
.ipk file and no icon displayed on home screen (on FSO-M4.1).
I think this belongs to OpenEmbedded bugtracker, but probably
OM guys can get this committed into git faster?
OE will automatically find files in several dirs, one of them is
${PN}, so the bb file itself is actully correct. I have just tested
installing openmoko-calculator2 and the icon shows up alright, so you
might want to check if there is something else going wrong..
- John
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diff --git a/packages/openmoko2/openmoko-calculator2_svn.bb
b/packages/openmoko2/openmoko-calculator2_svn.bb
index 66a8707..0da838f 100644
--- a/packages/openmoko2/openmoko-calculator2_svn.bb
+++ b/packages/openmoko2/openmoko-calculator2_svn.bb
@@ -5,11 +5,11 @@ PV = 0.1.0+svnr${SRCREV}
PR = r1
inherit openmoko2
-SRC_URI += file://openmoko-calculator.png
+SRC_URI += file://${PN}/openmoko-calculator.png
do_install_append_openmoko() {
install -d ${D}/${datadir}/pixmaps/
-install ${WORKDIR}//openmoko-calculator.png
${D}/${datadir}/pixmaps/openmoko-calculator.png
+install ${WORKDIR}/${PN}/openmoko-calculator.png
${D}/${datadir}/pixmaps/openmoko-calculator.png
}
PKG_TAGS_${PN} = group::unknown alias::Om_Calculator
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Re: Zhone doesn't show my contacts and messages after restart
(I CC smartphones.userland hoping to move the discussion there, it was my fault to write about it in community, sorry) Hi, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Wednesday 26 November 2008 21:56:19 schrieb Paul Fertser: Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am Monday 24 November 2008 13:33:54 schrieb Paul Fertser: I think i know what happens. If i restart Zhone without restarting frameworkd it never receives ReadyStatus signal from org.freesmartphone.GSM.SIM because sim was ready long ago it started. This should no longer be a problem as nowadays, if the last GSM user vanishes from the bus, the GSM resource (hence the modem) gets shutdown completely. ... Moreover, even provided zhone is the only app using the GSM resource, are you sure that gsm0710muxd will power-cycle the modem? Yes. Shutting down the resource will shut down gsm0710muxd, which in effect, turns off the modem. I'll try to provide the logs where after the Zhone restart %CSTAT never comes but it's still possible to read the information from SIM. In fact, as a quick work-around i added activation of SimReady to the network registration event. What i see every time i reboot zhone+frameworkd+gsm0710muxd is that right after the registration zhone receives the SimReady signal and tries to read the Phonebook. Not all entries are read, however as the sim is not really ready yet. After some time %CSTAT finally comes and zhone rereads the book, now with all entries present. I think i saw the same behaviour using some simple (probably Nokia) cellphone. Actually, i've just tried to gather the logs for the case of restarting zhone and it seems that part of the phonebook was lost during transfer from the phone to the ogsmd. No, really. 2008.11.27 13:40:33 ogsmdDEBUGMiscChannel via /dev/pts/3: got 256 bytes from: '51071,145,004500780061006D0073\r\n+CPBR: 37,xxx,129,00560054\r\n+CPBR: 38,xxx,145,0041006E0074006F006E00200050006F007A0064006E00650076\r\n+CPBR: 39,xxx,129,0041006E0074006F006E00200050006F007A0064006E0065007600200048\r\n+CPBR: 40,79' 2008.11.27 13:40:35 ogsmdDEBUGMiscChannel via /dev/pts/3: got 122 bytes from: 'xxx,145,005000650072006C0061006D006F006E\r\n+C07500650074007A0020004D\r\n+CPBR: 220,xxx,145,0041007200610' 2008.11.27 13:40:35 ogsmdDEBUGMiscChannel via /dev/pts/3: got 32 bytes from: '070006F0076002000530059\r\n\r\nOK\r\n' 2008.11.27 13:40:42 ogsmdDEBUGMiscChannel via /dev/pts/3: TIMEOUT 'AT+CPBS=SM;+CPBR=1,220' = ??? Notice the garbage right before the 220th entry. We saw something equally weird from my other log. :( And there's an entry number 41 as well as others (41-219) present in the debug log: Nov 27 13:40:33 debian-gta02 /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[27748]: gsm0710muxd.c:374:syslogdump(): s : 50 42 52 3a 20 34 31 2c-22 37 39 df 7e 7e 05 ef PBR: 41,79DF~~.EF Nov 27 13:40:33 debian-gta02 /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[27748]: gsm0710muxd.c:374:syslogdump(): s 0010: 32 36 35 35 37 38 39 30-30 22 2c 31 34 35 2c 22 26xxx,145, Nov 27 13:40:33 debian-gta02 /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[27748]: gsm0710muxd.c:374:syslogdump(): s 0020: 30 30 35 33 30 30 36 46-30 30 36 42 30 30 36 46 0053006F006B006F etc... I will attach the full logs later to an appropriate ticket. I don't know how what i see is possible, but if it is what it seems to be, then it's a serious bug that can influence anything. Why is muxing so hard?.. As the exact documentation on %CSTAT is unavailable (thank you, TI), i looked it up in Enfora's. It says that the %CSTAT codes will be delivered only after power on. If it is really the case with calypso it is no surprise that we never get SimReady signal as we don't power-cycle the modem (ATZ seems to be not equivalent, and we can't do $RESET). So it seems that %CSTAT should be avoided altogether... It's a question of alternatives. I don't think hammering the modem with read/write contact requests until it stops answering with 'SIM busy' is better than using %CSTAT. Do it once, then if 'SIM busy' received, wait for the %CSTAT. What's wrong with this approach? The fact that it only works if the Calypso is in a good mood. If the timing is wrong, you get an empty list of contacts... So, the modem firmware is buggy, the documentation is absent, and though you can probably convince the guy who can modify the firmware to fix this bug, it would be too late (he's now busy fixing #1024, i suppose) and you don't want to mass-upgrade it anyway. So the only possible solution i see is to let applications get the phone- and messagebooks anyway. You tell them that sim is probably not ready but if they try, they can get whatever the modem gives. When %CSTAT received, you send them a signal to reread. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Om2008.9] Where to set Illume's preferences?
Not sure if anyone else followed this up, but this was bugging me as
well. I have no idea how to tell Illume to prefer one keyboard layout
over the rest, but I was able to work around it. The keyboard layouts
are stored in:
/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards
I moved the default one ('Default.kbd') out of the way (renamed it to
'Default.bak', in case something goes wrong and i need it back), then
renamed 'Terminal.kbd' to 'Default.kbd'. It's a dodgy fix but it
worked for me... the terminal layout now appears by default.
Chris.
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Minh Ha Duong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the 'querty' icon brings up keyboard, with most recently used layout;
how can I configure the 'Terminal' is the one which comes up
with the PIN dialog ?
I have the same question. I would like the Terminal layout to always show
when I use the terminal. So is there a way to tell illume's keyboard:
THIS application uses THAT layout ?
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Re: [Debian -FSO -GPS] No Fix
My FSO 4.1 is running the fso-gpsd too. The only oddity with mine is that it lives on the SD card. I deliberately kept everything clean as far as the install goes - I just installed tangoGPS after installing FSO 4.1, then when the GPS didn't work I did a opkg update/upgrade on 24th and tried it again, then I enabled logging and reported on my findings. Anyone got any pointers ? I'm a bit of a noob with the freerunner though I've been sysadmining on Linux for, um, more years than I care to remember :-) On Tuesday 25 November 2008 22:13:08 Julien Cassignol wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 10:24 PM, glownan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm using SHR and having the same problem. SHR latest image was shipped with gpsd instead of fso-gpsd. Just opkg remove --force-depends gpsd; opkg install fso-gpsd and it'll work. Future images will be corrected. -- Antony King - 01908 268 901 Systems Consultant SolutionTrax Technologies - http://www.solutiontrax.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problem installing mokoko and pidgin
mallikarjun arjun wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 2:24 AM, ivvmm [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mallikarjun arjun wrote: Hello guys, I am using om-2008.9. When i try installing some packages it gives these errors. opkg install mokoko. Configuring libid3tag0 Collected errors: * Warning: remove /usr/lib/libcurl.so.4.0.1 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/libcurl.so.4.0.1 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/libcurl.so.4.0.1 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/libcurl.so.4.0.1 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/libcurl.so.4.0.1 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/libcurl.so.4.0.1 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/libgcrypt.so.11.4.3 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/libgcrypt.so.11.4.3 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/libgcrypt.so.11.4.3 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/libgcrypt.so.11.4.3 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/libgcrypt.so.11.4.3 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/libgcrypt.so.11.4.3 failed: No such file or directory * Package libgobject-2.0-0 wants to install file /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 But that file is already provided by package * libglib-2.0-0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# I have the same on FDOM. So it seems like we are not able to use Pidgin in 20081023. Help wanted on this :) What i feel is some library files are not able to update to latest version. Also my phone is not booting now after a restart. Hello. I subscribed to Fdom-development mail list and got an answer: Original Message Subject: Re: [Fdom-development] Pidgin package. Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 23:07:34 +0100 From: David Reyes Samblas Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ivvmm [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This was the main reason it has gone, I was unable to make it work, I remember it's finally install forcing all dependencies but the it badly segfaults at start. Sorry but no pidgin now... I will try to install directly form OE to see what happens in short, I will report soon 2008/11/26 ivvmm [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, where did the pidgin package gone? Also can't install it from angstrom distribution because of conflicting dependencies. Thanks. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian -FSO -GPS] No Fix
this seems to a debian thread, no? i still have no gps fix, neither the number of satellites after the upgrading of fso on my debian... this is very annoying! any hints? logs needed? d On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:17 AM, glownan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday I flashed the latest SHR image and the problem has disappeared, everything is working fine again. I don't know where the problem was as before flashing I was doing an opkg update/upgrade everyday and the issue was still there. ant wrote: My FSO 4.1 is running the fso-gpsd too. The only oddity with mine is that it lives on the SD card. I deliberately kept everything clean as far as the install goes - I just installed tangoGPS after installing FSO 4.1, then when the GPS didn't work I did a opkg update/upgrade on 24th and tried it again, then I enabled logging and reported on my findings. Anyone got any pointers ? I'm a bit of a noob with the freerunner though I've been sysadmining on Linux for, um, more years than I care to remember :-) On Tuesday 25 November 2008 22:13:08 Julien Cassignol wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 10:24 PM, glownan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm using SHR and having the same problem. SHR latest image was shipped with gpsd instead of fso-gpsd. Just opkg remove --force-depends gpsd; opkg install fso-gpsd and it'll work. Future images will be corrected. -- Antony King - 01908 268 901 Systems Consultant SolutionTrax Technologies - http://www.solutiontrax.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Debian--FSO--GPS--No-Fix-tp1521077p1584706.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
python-ctypes and binutils
Hi all, Not sure where to send this - perhaps a more development oriented list? Anyway, the issue is about python-ctypes, the library for easy access to shared libraries from python. This includes a utility class for finding the REAL name of a library, i.e. getting from GL to /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 This code is found here: /usr/lib/python2.5/ctypes/util.py (assuming python-ctypes is installed) Now this relies in turn on several external tools for finding the library (see [1]), in particular ldconfig, gcc and objdump. Now ldconfig we have by default, gcc we do not want to install and objdump is in the binutils package. Now the binutils package only includes weird named binaries for objdump, i.e. /usr/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-objdump - and this is not found by ctypes... How do we fix this? Can binutils not ship with a /usr/bin/objdump symlinked to /usr/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-objdump? A semi-related question : Say I've written a new .bb file for python-opengl. How can I most easily get this put into openembedded? Cheers, - Gunnar [1] http://www.python.org/doc/2.5.2/lib/ctypes-finding-shared-libraries.html -- Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes gunnar.grimnes [AT] dfki.de DFKI GmbH Knowledge Management Trippstadter Strasse 122 D-67663 Kaiserslautern Germany Office: +49 631 205 75-117 Mobile: +49 177 277 4397 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: help~After using the MokoMakefile to build the qemu, the qemu-neo1973 restart at once when it boot the kernel
Joan.doe wrote: On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:56:18 -0800 (PST) lostdays [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I could not boot openmoko too. But with replacing and flashing u-boot with the u-boot image of the pre buid windows image (http://yorick.keymeulen.com/openmoko-emulator-bin-20070625.rar) i was able to start. So replace /openmoko/build/qemu/openmoko/gta01bv4 with the uboot.bin from above and run openmoko/flash.sh from directory /openmoko/build/qemu/ After that you should be able to boot. But i didnot manage to get usb networking work because of a missing terminal in OM 2008.9 .. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hi, Thanks. I have followed your mail to try it, it works. I have replaced the kernel and roof fs file but don't replaced the uboot image. I guess there is some bug in the new uboot image. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/help%7EAfter-using-the-MokoMakefile-to-build-the-qemu%2C-the-qemu-neo1973-restart-at-once-when-it-boot-the-kernel-tp1574858p1585315.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO M4 - nice GSM sound
I tried it and it's working great! Thanks. Leonti On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Carl Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the echo of the other person. On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Leonti Bielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't do this for my SHR and I have no echo. But a person I'm talking to hear an echo. Does this fix my echo (which I don't have anyway) or an echo for another person? Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian -FSO -GPS] No Fix
For me setting the corect timezone (/etc/localtime) and time (ntpdate) solved the gps problem. I don know why, and I'm not shure if it was solved by the changes I have made, but after time and timezone was correct fso-gpsd fixed in less then 2min. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Debian--FSO--GPS--No-Fix-tp1521077p1585370.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fix no-icon for Calculator: Where to post a patch?
Hi,
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 4:35 PM, John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 05:53:00PM +0300, Alexander Chemeris wrote:
Attached patch fixes problem with openmoko-calculator2 BitBake recipe,
which points incorrect icon location. Thus no icon were shipped with
.ipk file and no icon displayed on home screen (on FSO-M4.1).
I think this belongs to OpenEmbedded bugtracker, but probably
OM guys can get this committed into git faster?
OE will automatically find files in several dirs, one of them is
${PN}, so the bb file itself is actully correct. I have just tested
installing openmoko-calculator2 and the icon shows up alright, so you
might want to check if there is something else going wrong..
Ah, I've got why I was confused. My previous build is about two weeks
old, and it didn't have patch [1] applied. Now things works out of the box
indeed.
1.
http://git.openembedded.net/?p=openembedded.git;a=commitdiff;h=e3e6454f61ce53b9f33dfcfffc73bb7654be8c1d
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Re: [Android] OnScreen Keyboard
Sean McNeil wrote: Excellent. Then we can just include it within the image as it won't affect operations otherwise. Got any sort of ETA on an updated image? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Android--OnScreen-Keyboard-tp1583918p1585457.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian -FSO -GPS] No Fix
I don know why, and I'm not shure if it was solved by the changes I have made, but after time and timezone was correct fso-gpsd fixed in less then 2min. if that's really the cause it needs fixing -- my fr is always about 3 min behind in time when rebooted and i do not always have a ntp source available to sync. wasn't there recently something about fso feeding the u-blox data on startup and that the data needs to match time and so on? then this routine needs to be more tolerant. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] OnScreen Keyboard
Gothnet wrote: Sean McNeil wrote: Excellent. Then we can just include it within the image as it won't affect operations otherwise. Got any sort of ETA on an updated image? In kernel ML Sean said: egardless, there will be a new image posted on or before Monday morning. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: python-ctypes and binutils
Hi Gunnar, I'm not sure if this will answer your question or not, but it sounds like you are looking for the following package: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=binutils-symlinks which will create symlinks to the weird named binaries. Cheers, Andrew Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes wrote: Hi all, Not sure where to send this - perhaps a more development oriented list? Anyway, the issue is about python-ctypes, the library for easy access to shared libraries from python. This includes a utility class for finding the REAL name of a library, i.e. getting from GL to /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 This code is found here: /usr/lib/python2.5/ctypes/util.py (assuming python-ctypes is installed) Now this relies in turn on several external tools for finding the library (see [1]), in particular ldconfig, gcc and objdump. Now ldconfig we have by default, gcc we do not want to install and objdump is in the binutils package. Now the binutils package only includes weird named binaries for objdump, i.e. /usr/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-objdump - and this is not found by ctypes... How do we fix this? Can binutils not ship with a /usr/bin/objdump symlinked to /usr/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-objdump? A semi-related question : Say I've written a new .bb file for python-opengl. How can I most easily get this put into openembedded? Cheers, - Gunnar [1] http://www.python.org/doc/2.5.2/lib/ctypes-finding-shared-libraries.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenMooCow 0.2
While waiting for the Christmas puddings to cook this afternoon, I've been making a few updates to OpenMooCow. You can get version 0.2 from the same place as before: http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~taw27/openmoko/openmoocow/ Changes since version 0.1 are: - Moos when tilted either up or down (not just after tilting both ways like before). This seems to be what people expect, even though it's not quite what I remember genuine mooboxes doing. - The packaging has been fixed to depend on the things it needs. - You can now press the cow to make her moo. - Mooing still occurs even if the graphics can't be shown. Run the following on a terminal and your Freerunner will be mooing until the next reboot: $ nohup openmoocow And some improvements under the hood: - It should behave a little better if the accelerometers are sticky. - Code simplified and altered to make it easier to add support for other types of accelerometer. OpenMooCow won't alter your accelerometer parameters in any way, so you might have a configuration which it doesn't like. In particular, the threshold setting can cause problems. If this happens to you, try this: # echo 0 /sys/devices/platform/lis302dl.2/threshold Comments or abuse to this address as ever, Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rotate single application
On Thursday 27 November 2008, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:53:01 + Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Thursday 27 November 2008, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 03:04:03 +0300 Alexander Chemeris [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 2:39 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:43:49 +0300 Alexander Chemeris [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Bernd Prünster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexander Chemeris schrieb: Is there any possibility to rotate screen for a selected application? Now I use xrandr -o 1 app xrandr -o 0 to run application in landscape mode, but this rotates screen for the whole system. I rather want to rotate single application window. sure it is, just make shellscript which does the rotation, then launches the application an then rotates tzhe screen back. you can also change the keycode for the aux button just for one application in the same way! (just look at the scummvm wiki page if you want to have a good example!) That's exactly what I'm doing - xrandr -o 1 app xrandr -o 0 But this change screen orientation for the whole X. If you tap on the top, choose Home, you'll see it also rotated. What I'm asking for is an ability to rotate a single aplpication, leaving illume and other apps in portrait orientation. Btw, thanks for pointing to ScummVM, I should try this. :) you will need to make the app itself handle its own rotated drawing. it's up to the app. That's what I expected. I wonder why there are still no such feature in illume. A handful of applications want this. nothing to do with illume. this is x. apps draw their own window contents and handle their own window even inputs. the app would need to rotate its own draws and translate all input even co-ordinates. I was thinking of a window manager plugin that applies rotation when the window is activated. Compiz can apply many of its effects selectively according to application (window name?) so I'm guessing wildly that calling an xrandr setting by name on change of active window should be possible. Then again I know nothing abut the internals of window managers... that would require xevie (so every mouse event go through the compositor and it can try translate (rotate them), so you will add more latency to mouse events), and compositing (which will slow down rendering as all rendering now has to happen to a backing pixmap) AND you will not have accelerated rotates/transforms as xrender is unaccelerated on glamo - so your output will become nice and slow... really slow. I hadn't even considered that approach on this hardware. Not a nice thought. as such you could selectively rotate thew WHOLE screen if a particular window is focused, but e has no such code - a module could be written that does just that. but then the keyboard, top-bar etc. will also rotate. That's what I was thinking of. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] how to add buttons to illume's launcher?
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Re: [SHR] how to add buttons to illume's launcher?
Am Thursday 27 November 2008 21:44:32 schrieb Robin Paulson: 2008/11/28 Joerg Lippmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: After some updating, my tangogps start button is gone from shr's Illume. But tangogps is still there. How can I create a new start entry? does shr have the same launcher as 2008.9? if so, then a .desktop in /usr/share/applications will show up on the front page or reinstall tangogps if there is a .desktop, but it doesn't show in the launcher, some of the settings in it may be wrong - it can be edited with a text editor; try looking at some of the others that do work Especially the categories are important here, some of them (don't ask me which) are not being displayed by illume by default. -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.2
Hi, Am Donnerstag, den 27.11.2008, 20:02 + schrieb Thomas White: - Code simplified and altered to make it easier to add support for other types of accelerometer. Nice! I hacked up some hdaps (read: Thinkpads) support, tested on a T41p: http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-fso/openmoocow.git;a=commitdiff;h=dbf866bf383f6a056542adc234ee77a79bab1ffe It now moos when tilting your laptop 90° away from to or towards you (and again when you tilt it upright, due to the latest change). Greetings, Joachim PS: Enrico, I felt free to run git-import-orig to have something to branch of, but I left the rest of packaging the new version to you :-) -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.2
Joachim Breitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice! I hacked up some hdaps (read: Thinkpads) support, tested on a T41p Great stuff. Enrico told me that there was interest in making it work on Thinkpads, but I didn't expect it to happen within 90 minutes of releasing a new version. Feel the power of open-source... It now moos when tilting your laptop 90° away from to or towards you (and again when you tilt it upright, due to the latest change). Hmmm...mooing when tilted either way makes more sense for something like a phone than for a laptop. If you decide this doesn't feel right, feel free to revert this when using the Thinkpad driver (not that you need any permission for that, of course). When you're happy with the Thinkpad support, could you send me a patch to for the next version? (If a new version is ever necessary...). Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.2
Hi Thomas,
Am Donnerstag, den 27.11.2008, 22:09 + schrieb Thomas White:
It now moos when tilting your laptop 90° away from to or towards you
(and again when you tilt it upright, due to the latest change).
Hmmm...mooing when tilted either way makes more sense for something
like a phone than for a laptop. If you decide this doesn't feel
right, feel free to revert this when using the Thinkpad driver (not
that you need any permission for that, of course). When you're happy
with the Thinkpad support, could you send me a patch to for the next
version? (If a new version is ever necessary...).
I took this as an encouragement to hack slightly on your code, so I did
a slightly larger modification. The diff is here:
http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-fso/openmoocow.git;a=commitdiff;h=6c2116a1df2bb5ff54754f87fc8eb216fe355dd2
And the patch comment is
“Slight refactorization: The decision, whether a moo should happen, is
moved to the driver-specific code (because it knows best what kind of
device to expect). A member “state” is added to the accel struct which
can be used to implement a state machine inside the driver (as was done
before with pos).”
One could probably change the -1000 and 1000 values in the freerunner
driver now to 0 and 1, to indicate the two states (upside down or not),
but I didn’t want to be too intrusive :-)
I have attached the complete diff against your release.
Greetings,
Joachim
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diff --git a/src/accelerometers.c b/src/accelerometers.c
index 61118fc..b1deb7c 100644
--- a/src/accelerometers.c
+++ b/src/accelerometers.c
@@ -45,6 +45,7 @@ struct input_event {
};
#define EV_SYN (0x00)
#define EV_REL (0x02)
+#define EV_ABS (0x03)
#define SYN_REPORT (0x00)
#define REL_X (0x00)
#define REL_Y (0x01)
@@ -63,9 +64,17 @@ AccelHandle *accelerometer_open() {
accel-lx = 0;
accel-ly = 0;
accel-lz = 0;
+ accel-state = 0;
accel-type = ACCEL_UNKNOWN;
/* Determine accelerometer type */
+ accel-fd = open(/dev/input/by-path/platform-hdaps-event-joystick, O_RDONLY, O_NONBLOCK);
+ if ( accel-fd != -1 ) {
+ accel-type = ACCEL_HDAPS;
+ printf(ThinkPad HDAPS detected\n);
+ return accel;
+ }
+
accel-fd = open(/dev/input/event3, O_RDONLY, O_NONBLOCK);
if ( accel-fd != -1 ) {
accel-type = ACCEL_FREERUNNER;
@@ -80,7 +89,48 @@ AccelHandle *accelerometer_open() {
}
-void accelerometer_update_freerunner(AccelHandle *accel) {
+int accelerometer_moo_hdaps(AccelHandle *accel) {
+
+ struct input_event ev;
+ size_t rval;
+
+ rval = read(accel-fd, ev, sizeof(ev));
+ if ( rval != sizeof(ev) ) {
+ fprintf(stderr, Couldn't read accelerometer data);
+ return 0;
+ }
+ if (ev.type == EV_ABS ev.code == REL_Y) {
+ if (accel-state == 0 abs(ev.value)100) {
+ // Laptop tilted far enough
+ accel-state=1;
+ return 0;
+ }
+
+ if (accel-state == 1 abs(ev.value)70) {
+ // Laptop tilted back, play sound
+ accel-state=2;
+ return 1;
+ }
+
+ if (accel-state == 2 abs(ev.value)20) {
+ // Laptop almost at center, enable another round
+ accel-state=0;
+ return 0;
+ }
+ }
+
+ return 0;
+
+ /*
+ fprintf(stderr, Event: time %ld.%06ld, type %s, code %d, value %d\n,
+ ev.time.tv_sec, ev.time.tv_usec,
+ ev.type == EV_REL ? REL :
+ ev.type == EV_ABS ? ABS : Other ,
+ ev.code, ev.value);
+ */
+}
+
+int accelerometer_moo_freerunner(AccelHandle *accel) {
struct input_event ev;
size_t rval;
@@ -88,7 +138,7 @@ void accelerometer_update_freerunner(AccelHandle *accel) {
rval = read(accel-fd, ev, sizeof(ev));
if ( rval != sizeof(ev) ) {
fprintf(stderr, Couldn't read accelerometer data);
- return;
+ return 0;
}
if ( ev.type == EV_REL ) {
@@ -111,23 +161,35 @@ void accelerometer_update_freerunner(AccelHandle *accel) {
}
}
+ if ( (accel-y -500) (accel-state -1000) ) {
+ accel-state = -1000;
+ return 1;
+ }
+
+ if ( (accel-y 500) (accel-state 1000) ) {
+ accel-state = 1000;
+ return 1;
+ }
+
+ return 0;
}
-void accelerometer_update(AccelHandle *accel) {
+int accelerometer_moo(AccelHandle *accel) {
switch ( accel-type ) {
case ACCEL_UNKNOWN : {
- return;
+ return 0;
}
case ACCEL_FREERUNNER : {
- accelerometer_update_freerunner(accel);
- break;
+ return accelerometer_moo_freerunner(accel);
+ }
+ case ACCEL_HDAPS : {
+ return accelerometer_moo_hdaps(accel);
}
- /* Add other types here. You simply need to provide the y
- * component of acceleration in milli-g in the relevant
- * structure. */
+ /* Add other types here. */
}
+ return 0;
}
/* The accelerometer work thread */
@@ -135,22 +197,14 @@ static void *accel_work(void *data) {
AccelHandle *accel;
int *finished = data;
- int pos = 0;
accel = accelerometer_open();
audio_setup();
while ( !(*finished) ) {
-
Re: Rotate single application
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:07:25 + Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: as such you could selectively rotate thew WHOLE screen if a particular window is focused, but e has no such code - a module could be written that does just that. but then the keyboard, top-bar etc. will also rotate. That's what I was thinking of. so as such you'd like it, if application X is focused (active app) then the whole screen rotates as long as its focused - then rotates back to normal when somewhere else? (eg it's a game or video that prefers to run in landscape mode). -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] Where to set Illume's preferences?
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:54:26 +0100 Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
El día Thursday, November 27, 2008 a las 09:16:40PM +1100, Chris Hogan
escribió:
Not sure if anyone else followed this up, but this was bugging me as
well. I have no idea how to tell Illume to prefer one keyboard layout
over the rest, but I was able to work around it. The keyboard layouts
are stored in:
/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards
I moved the default one ('Default.kbd') out of the way (renamed it to
'Default.bak', in case something goes wrong and i need it back), then
renamed 'Terminal.kbd' to 'Default.kbd'. It's a dodgy fix but it
worked for me... the terminal layout now appears by default.
Chris.
Hi Chris,
Thanks for that nice idea (even if it is a bit dirty);
I have had a look into the file Terminal.kbd and will play around with
it as well to see if I could manage the Spanish tilde chars: ñáéíóú¿¡...
is there any documentation about the syntax for this file?
Thx
comments in the files - 3 of them provided by default. Numbers also has
accented chars - put them in in utf8. :)
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Re: [SHR] how to add buttons to illume's launcher?
Am Donnerstag 27 November 2008 schrieb Joel Newkirk: On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 22:20:54 +0100, Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Thursday 27 November 2008 21:44:32 schrieb Robin Paulson: 2008/11/28 Joerg Lippmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: After some updating, my tangogps start button is gone from shr's Illume. But tangogps is still there. How can I create a new start entry? Especially the categories are important here, some of them (don't ask me which) are not being displayed by illume by default. If you see application change it to applications. Hey guys! I got it back on the map by setting Categories=GTK;Network; just like in midori.desktop. That's fine for me. Thanks for your help! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume dictionary for Dutch (Nederlands)
Is it possible to put comments in the .dic file? If so, in what format? E.g. only the first couple of lines which start with a #. Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:55:02 +0100 (CET) Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: any dictionary should not care about gsm encodings. it should be just a utf8 dictionary file. it is the job of the sms app to convert normal utf8 unicode to whatever encoding used by the network, and back. :) Small correction to my text: Note that more characters must be Note that certain special characters are in GSM 03.38 which are not in extended ASCII Nevertheless, one complete utf-8 dictionary could be used by most applications, also SMS. The conversion I do for GSM 03.38 could also be done later just before sending the SMS. On Thu, November 20, 2008 10:44, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: I have no idea... I might only make a new version with utf-8 encoded characters. :) On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:40:46AM +0100, Pander wrote: Hi all, I intent to generate the following: - a full list utf-8 (for 8 bit SMS and regular use, default) - b full list utf-8 GSM 03.38[1] (for 7 bit SMS) - c truncated list utf-8 (for 8 bit SMS and regular use) - d truncated list utf-8 GSM 03.38[1] (for 7 bit SMS, default) [1] These utf-8 characters in this list are within the 7-bit range of GSM 03.38, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_message_service#GSM Note that more characters a and b will both have 250,000 words b will be conversion, remapping and normalisation of a c and d are truncations and normalisation of respectively a and b For utf-16, a simple conversion of the utf-8 files can be used, but I'll leave this for now. This could result in two extra files. Note that nor extended nor non-extended ASCII is available. Is this desirable? This can result in four extra files. So, I can come up with 10 different files. Which are according to you the most useful? Regards, Pander On Thu, November 20, 2008 08:58, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 03:02:41AM +0100, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Pander wrote: Of course this particular word list is very long and contains about 250,000 words and has a typical lng tail. Many words or compositions or occur seldom in average day use. What would be a good cut off point in number of words, also in terms of performance? The Portuguese list contains 56,609 words. Is this workable? How many does the English contain? The Italian one can count also 500'000 words (to be short), but I can get a well working dictionary only using a smaller one (with about 150'000 words that I've taken counting its google popularity). Btw I've written more complete posts about this on the list... Well, since my basis was based on a million words taken from the most printed daily newspaper in Portugal (I didn't count but still I removed a lot of non words like numbers, etc...) already with frequency data, my job was so much easier... :) As for writing SMS/text messages... I haven't found yet a word that wasn't there (in fact my problem is that it so often is the first of several matches so I have to use the menu on the left) but I must confess to not be one of those whose primary use of the phone is SMS/text! Rui -- Frink! Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 32nd day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- You are what you see. Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 32nd day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] Where to set Illume's preferences?
For the Dutch language the following characters are important:
àáäâ and upper case
èéëê and upper case
ìíïî and upper case
òóöô and upper case
ùúüû and upper case
ç and upper case
ij (ij ligature) and upper case
Normally it is not possible to easily input the latter ligature by the
use of the compose key. All others are no problem by means of the
compose key.
Most people use 'ij' for 'ij', but the official one is 'ij' which needs
some stimulation in use. When possible, can this one be made available
in illume?
How do I fill the dictionary? Do I use the 'ij' or the 'ij' or do I offer
both?
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:54:26 +0100 Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
El día Thursday, November 27, 2008 a las 09:16:40PM +1100, Chris Hogan
escribió:
Not sure if anyone else followed this up, but this was bugging me as
well. I have no idea how to tell Illume to prefer one keyboard layout
over the rest, but I was able to work around it. The keyboard layouts
are stored in:
/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards
I moved the default one ('Default.kbd') out of the way (renamed it to
'Default.bak', in case something goes wrong and i need it back), then
renamed 'Terminal.kbd' to 'Default.kbd'. It's a dodgy fix but it
worked for me... the terminal layout now appears by default.
Chris.
Hi Chris,
Thanks for that nice idea (even if it is a bit dirty);
I have had a look into the file Terminal.kbd and will play around with
it as well to see if I could manage the Spanish tilde chars: ñáéíóú¿¡...
is there any documentation about the syntax for this file?
Thx
comments in the files - 3 of them provided by default. Numbers also has
accented chars - put them in in utf8. :)
matthias
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Re: [Om2008.9] Where to set Illume's preferences?
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 00:49:57 +0100 Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
For the Dutch language the following characters are important:
àáäâ and upper case
èéëê and upper case
ìíïî and upper case
òóöô and upper case
ùúüû and upper case
ç and upper case
ij (ij ligature) and upper case
Normally it is not possible to easily input the latter ligature by the
use of the compose key. All others are no problem by means of the
compose key.
Most people use 'ij' for 'ij', but the official one is 'ij' which needs
some stimulation in use. When possible, can this one be made available
in illume?
yes. see the Numbers.kbd - it has accented chars as above - as long as an x
keysym exists for such a char at all it will work and just put them into
the .kbd as utf8 text. see the Numbers.kbd :)
How do I fill the dictionary? Do I use the 'ij' or the 'ij' or do I offer
both?
dictionary has bugs with utf8 (non-ascii) chars. so anything in the dict that
is non-ascii will make word matching have problems. i just dont have time to
fix it at the moment.
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:54:26 +0100 Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
El día Thursday, November 27, 2008 a las 09:16:40PM +1100, Chris Hogan
escribió:
Not sure if anyone else followed this up, but this was bugging me as
well. I have no idea how to tell Illume to prefer one keyboard layout
over the rest, but I was able to work around it. The keyboard layouts
are stored in:
/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards
I moved the default one ('Default.kbd') out of the way (renamed it to
'Default.bak', in case something goes wrong and i need it back), then
renamed 'Terminal.kbd' to 'Default.kbd'. It's a dodgy fix but it
worked for me... the terminal layout now appears by default.
Chris.
Hi Chris,
Thanks for that nice idea (even if it is a bit dirty);
I have had a look into the file Terminal.kbd and will play around with
it as well to see if I could manage the Spanish tilde chars: ñáéíóú¿¡...
is there any documentation about the syntax for this file?
Thx
comments in the files - 3 of them provided by default. Numbers also has
accented chars - put them in in utf8. :)
matthias
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Re: Illume dictionary for Dutch (Nederlands)
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 00:20:38 +0100 Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Is it possible to put comments in the .dic file? If so, in what format? E.g. only the first couple of lines which start with a #. no. it doesnt support comments. Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:55:02 +0100 (CET) Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: any dictionary should not care about gsm encodings. it should be just a utf8 dictionary file. it is the job of the sms app to convert normal utf8 unicode to whatever encoding used by the network, and back. :) Small correction to my text: Note that more characters must be Note that certain special characters are in GSM 03.38 which are not in extended ASCII Nevertheless, one complete utf-8 dictionary could be used by most applications, also SMS. The conversion I do for GSM 03.38 could also be done later just before sending the SMS. On Thu, November 20, 2008 10:44, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: I have no idea... I might only make a new version with utf-8 encoded characters. :) On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 10:40:46AM +0100, Pander wrote: Hi all, I intent to generate the following: - a full list utf-8 (for 8 bit SMS and regular use, default) - b full list utf-8 GSM 03.38[1] (for 7 bit SMS) - c truncated list utf-8 (for 8 bit SMS and regular use) - d truncated list utf-8 GSM 03.38[1] (for 7 bit SMS, default) [1] These utf-8 characters in this list are within the 7-bit range of GSM 03.38, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_message_service#GSM Note that more characters a and b will both have 250,000 words b will be conversion, remapping and normalisation of a c and d are truncations and normalisation of respectively a and b For utf-16, a simple conversion of the utf-8 files can be used, but I'll leave this for now. This could result in two extra files. Note that nor extended nor non-extended ASCII is available. Is this desirable? This can result in four extra files. So, I can come up with 10 different files. Which are according to you the most useful? Regards, Pander On Thu, November 20, 2008 08:58, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 03:02:41AM +0100, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Pander wrote: Of course this particular word list is very long and contains about 250,000 words and has a typical lng tail. Many words or compositions or occur seldom in average day use. What would be a good cut off point in number of words, also in terms of performance? The Portuguese list contains 56,609 words. Is this workable? How many does the English contain? The Italian one can count also 500'000 words (to be short), but I can get a well working dictionary only using a smaller one (with about 150'000 words that I've taken counting its google popularity). Btw I've written more complete posts about this on the list... Well, since my basis was based on a million words taken from the most printed daily newspaper in Portugal (I didn't count but still I removed a lot of non words like numbers, etc...) already with frequency data, my job was so much easier... :) As for writing SMS/text messages... I haven't found yet a word that wasn't there (in fact my problem is that it so often is the first of several matches so I have to use the menu on the left) but I must confess to not be one of those whose primary use of the phone is SMS/text! Rui -- Frink! Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 32nd day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- You are what you see. Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 32nd day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Codito, ergo sum
Re: Rotate single application
On Thursday 27 November 2008, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:07:25 + Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: as such you could selectively rotate thew WHOLE screen if a particular window is focused, but e has no such code - a module could be written that does just that. but then the keyboard, top-bar etc. will also rotate. That's what I was thinking of. so as such you'd like it, if application X is focused (active app) then the whole screen rotates as long as its focused - then rotates back to normal when somewhere else? (eg it's a game or video that prefers to run in landscape mode). I think that's what the OP was asking for. Personally it would need some careful interface design to avoid driving me nuts! It's another tool that might be good for some people in some circumstances. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rotate single application
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 00:11:42 + Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Thursday 27 November 2008, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:07:25 + Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: as such you could selectively rotate thew WHOLE screen if a particular window is focused, but e has no such code - a module could be written that does just that. but then the keyboard, top-bar etc. will also rotate. That's what I was thinking of. so as such you'd like it, if application X is focused (active app) then the whole screen rotates as long as its focused - then rotates back to normal when somewhere else? (eg it's a game or video that prefers to run in landscape mode). I think that's what the OP was asking for. Personally it would need some careful interface design to avoid driving me nuts! It's another tool that might be good for some people in some circumstances. noted - but i'd say not a priority :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rotate single application
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 3:11 AM, Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 27 November 2008, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:07:25 + Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: as such you could selectively rotate thew WHOLE screen if a particular window is focused, but e has no such code - a module could be written that does just that. but then the keyboard, top-bar etc. will also rotate. That's what I was thinking of. so as such you'd like it, if application X is focused (active app) then the whole screen rotates as long as its focused - then rotates back to normal when somewhere else? (eg it's a game or video that prefers to run in landscape mode). I think that's what the OP was asking for. Personally it would need some careful interface design to avoid driving me nuts! It's another tool that might be good for some people in some circumstances. Actually I thought more about rotating just application's main window content - that should be much smoother when switching back and forth. But I'd be happy with rotating the whole screen too. And hopefully not only me :) -- Regards, Alexander Chemeris. SIPez LLC. SIP VoIP, IM and Presence Consulting http://www.SIPez.com tel: +1 (617) 273-4000 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMooCow 0.2
tried to install it on 2008.9 - required new glib which predictably, killed some other apps - and on top doesnt run (enlightenment error). Will have to wait for possibly 2008.12 (?) until it can be used unless you are on another distro. BillK Will have to wait for On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 20:02 +, Thomas White wrote: While waiting for the Christmas puddings to cook this afternoon, I've been making a few updates to OpenMooCow. You can get version 0.2 from the same place as before: http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~taw27/openmoko/openmoocow/ Changes since version 0.1 are: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Illume dictionary for Dutch (Nederlands)
On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 10:14 +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: (japanese) sakana - さかな | 魚 | 肴 | 坂な | 茶菓な | 阪な | 差かな | 左かな | 差かな | 査かな | 鎖かな | サカナ | sakana Hi raster, I am curious how we can pass unicode character to applications like those via X. I though the keyboard could only send keycode. How does it work with illume keyboard ? -charlie signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: External wired small USB keyboard
Say, did any of you manage to use your external wired small USB keyboards typing to /dev/tty1, the console, outside of Xwindows? Be careful, as you might not be able to get back to Xwindows, and have to hit the power button, as only [a-z] characters worked for me here on Debian. I.e., you won't be able to type the 2 in http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.smartphones.userland/238 assuming you managed to login with a username and passwd that are all [a-z]. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] apt-get upgrade made the FR die...
JB do you have FAT as your /boot partition? It turned out that that is a JB bad idea when managing the kernel with dpkg. You can either JB * Reformat it as ext2, adjust /etc/fstab, adjust uBoot env and JB re-install kernel package JB * Remove the kernel package and manually download and install your JB kernels. Or make your fstab point to a /boot on the same partition as /, and use http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi . ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Accel digital building level wanted
anybody, write programm digital building level im not programmer, but this programm whether would be useful for example to learn exactly there is a table for billiards or more -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Accel-digital-%22building%22-level-wanted-tp1588059p1588059.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [om2008.9] Did gsm multiplexing, got some problems, have some questions.
Got the solution. First i did wrong move - i update om-settings and python-dbus packages from testing. When I did the right thing - install dbus-x11 - it has the dbus-launch programm, settings began to run but because of earlier wrong updates there was unknown value of Profile and Suspend fields. exposure -f run showed what there, i think, should be some more dbus specification files (don't remember exact extension) Illume and Qtopia. Trying to get them showed what brobably many packages should be updated. I changed repository to testing and did opkg update opkg upgrade. The result was not booting to GUI. I even update uImage.bin - took it from /boot - no result. When I restored te backup of second try. Did install of dbus-x11, settings began to run ok, but there was unknown values again. exposure -f run showed no problems. May be i was not patient to enough time. There was hard to be patient because of 30 sec timeout. When I did another possibly wrong move - I did rm -rf ~/.e/e/config/illume, cp ~/.e/e/config/asu/* ~/.e/e/config/illume After restart i got no timeout and after short waiting in Settings unknown values was changed to actual values. But there was another surprise - no screen keyboard at all. And rm -rf ~/.e/e/config/illume did not help, but it change values in Settings to default. And I was able to change them. Long or short i got back virtual keyboard. The http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume#How_to_install_the_illume_(Raster's)_keyboard (rm and X restart) should be done twice - first after opkg install illume-theme-default --force-reinstall and second after opkg install illume-config --force-reinstall Thats all. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-om2008.9--Did-gsm-multiplexing%2C-got-some-problems%2C-have-some-questions.-tp1579921p1588072.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
