Re: Bounties?
Le mercredi 03 décembre 2008, Sargun Dhillon a écrit : Just out of curiosity, how many OpenMoko users out there would be willing to pay for bounties? Additionally, how many developers would work for bounties? What sort of bounties would you guys request? How much would you pay? I was thinking that knowing that someone works a graphical alsamixer, based on the real circuit layout, that highlights in real time the connected circuits, where you click on a control to change it, that can manage the .state files etc... would be worth about €50 pocket money to me. Minh -- Minh HA DUONG, Chargé de Recherche, CNRS CIRED, Centre International de Recherches sur l'Environnement et le Développement http://minh.haduong.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Funding Global Domination
Could somebody official in OpenMoko respond to this email and perhaps indicate whether the company would be interested in this idea and perhaps some way of gauging if the community is interested? Perhaps somebody in the Community could design a cool subtle OpenMoko garment? The second option is more like it. It takes a few hours to design a T-Shirt and upload it to an online store where everybody else can go and buy it. So just do it: the entry costs are so low that there is no real need for a formal market study ! Minh -- Minh HA DUONG, Chargé de Recherche, CNRS CIRED, Centre International de Recherches sur l'Environnement et le Développement http://minh.haduong.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Optimization team update (11/23 ~ 11/29)
On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 19:50 +0800, John Lee wrote: Dear Community, As Sushama (our new testing team member) indicated in http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-November/003493.html , we won't have a release in Nov. Currently the testing team is going ... Ive been using this for a couple of days now and have some more items: SMS messages are still being held up. If the phone is suspended, it will wake but never indicate an SMS has been received. They only show up when rebooting the phone, or mostly on restarting the xserver. There are a few bugs on this like 1766, but thats not exactly the same and was supposed to be fixed in testing - would this fix come in as part of the upgrade? The wifi icon is still dodgy - comes on when wifi started, never stops when wifi is stopped. The GSM icon stays at one bar (or is it a !), never moves, even before/after registration. Other than the last, I though these issues were solved in testing, so they might be upgrade issues. BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian and xfce?
Le mercredi 03 décembre 2008, Christopher J. White a écrit : On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 21:37 +, Joachim Breitner wrote: Someone willing to do some cleanup and general QA on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian ? I can take a crack at this, since I just recently went through the pain of an install. What are your thoughts about duplication of effort between the openmoko.org page and the debian.org page? There's some duplicate copy now, but there is unique and valuable information both pages. I would prefer everything on Debian's wiki, and just a link in the wiki.openmoko.org . Simplest way to avoid duplication. Minh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bounties?
2008/12/3 Sargun Dhillon [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Just out of curiosity, how many OpenMoko users out there would be willing to pay for bounties? Additionally, how many developers would work for bounties? What sort of bounties would you guys request? How much would you pay? I think I'd be prepared to pay for bounties. Probably on the order of €30-40. One thing I'd be prepared to pay for is some sort of handwriting recognition or grafitti-style input. First, though, I need to be convinced that my Freerunner is usable as a phone. I have problems with GSM buzz and too low audio level at the remote end. My Freerunner is basically sitting on a shelf until OpenMoko get that stuff sorted out. /Erland ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] cannot save attachments in qtmail email application
okay, it seems like nobody knows an answer to my question. let me ask it differently. is there an e-mail client for FDOM that i can use including attachments? (that can save attachments of e-mails on the phone) ? thanks for your help Gerard Gerard_2009 wrote: FDOM email account in the qtmail/messages application. ... problem I cannot save attachments. When I click on the attachment, I can than click on Add to documents but i always end up with the error message: Please ensure that there is space available for Documents my / is on the internal storage and i got 100.6 MB available i checked in the /home/root/Applications but didnt find a setting and chmoding the content to 777 didnt bring anything also in .config i didnt find a setting for the save path... -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-FDOM--cannot-save-attachments-in-qtmail-email-application-tp1576480p1608106.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bounties?
Just out of curiosity, how many OpenMoko users out there would be willing to pay for bounties? Additionally, how many developers would work for bounties? What sort of bounties would you guys request? How much would you pay? I would certainly pay bounties. The only problem I see really is that there are many issues which are wrapped up together. For example, I'd happily pay AU$100 to have rock-solid with all the basic phone functionality, but for me this means suspend / resume, no echo, a simple (as in easy to use and understand) graphical volume control which can be adjusted during calls and automatically saves changes to the appropriate state file, PIM database and PIM synchronisation, Tasks / Calendar / alarms. From a user's perspective, these are kind of one big compound issue which I'd call give me equal functionality / reliability to a cheap nokia, whereas from a developer's perspective they're many small and widely diverse things that need to be done / improved. I certainly think it could be worth somebody setting up a bounties website, I believe I've seen similar things in the past... -Dale ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Koolu announces open-source Android port
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Rui Castro wrote: I downloaded the code from http://git.koolu.org/ and tried to make the generic image, simply executing make, but it fails with the following error -- make: *** No rule to make target `out/host/linux-x86/framework/swt.jar', needed by `out/host/common/obj/JAVA_LIBRARIES/sdkstats_intermediates/javalib.jar'. Stop. -- Have you tried to run the compilation process with: make TARGET_PRODUCT=freerunner This seems to compile... What should I do to compile a jffs2 image? Is it possible already? I don't think that it is automatized, but maybe taking the out/ files, comparing and merging them (mostly the settings files like init.rc) with the ones from the Sean's image we could get a working rootfs... Is this a seperate porting project to the one we already knew about, or are they combining their efforts? More importantly, does it work as a phone? -Dale ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bounties?
The only problem I see really is that there are many issues which are wrapped up together. For example, I'd happily pay AU$100 to have rock-solid with all the basic phone functionality, but for me this means suspend / resume, no echo, a simple (as in easy to use and understand) graphical volume control which can be adjusted during calls and automatically saves changes to the appropriate state file, PIM database and PIM synchronisation, Tasks / Calendar / alarms. From a user's perspective, these are kind of one big compound issue which I'd call give me equal functionality / reliability to a cheap nokia, whereas from a developer's perspective they're many small and widely diverse things that need to be done / improved. I certainly think it could be worth somebody setting up a bounties website, I believe I've seen similar things in the past... Looks sane. As virtually everybody want what you just enumerated, these $100-200-300-more(?) can be collected from large crowd of Openmoko users. Written once -- used by many. And yet it doesn't violate open source/development spirit. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
bootloader contacts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello there, thanks for the help by the xfce-debian-thread. it was very fast very usefull. by time, i would update this part in the wiki. now, i've got 2 other problems. if i restart my moko, the bootloader hangs up and i see just the splashscreen. i flashed it once with dfu-util in section u-boot with the file http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.9/gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin . did someone know anythin about? my workaround is to press the aux-key and then select boot. i think also, it's just, if the usb-cable is connecting to the computer, but i didn't check it exactly. the other thing, which is a smaller problem, how could i delete every contact with one or two clicks in qtextended 4.4.2? if i must delete every contact by hand, i had a day or more ;) which sqlite-file is just for the contacts? (i've found 2 files, maybe there are more?) or is there a possibility by the system? great thanks for your help. :) vince - -- Vinzenz Hersche Lehrling 2. Lehrjahr Puzzle ITC GmbH www.puzzle.ch Telefon +41 31 370 22 00 Direkt +41 31 370 22 04 Mobile +41 78 845 24 12 Fax +41 31 370 22 01 Puzzle ist Mitglied der Eclipse Foundation: http://www.puzzle.ch/eclipse/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkk2U98ACgkQK9d7OHUJmA5rLwCgo+VXqoiI0OZdDYM5e+j+F+3w /ZkAmgLjHYSCjdHEuPjJ9Vj0OADwqXKP =guLO -END PGP SIGNATURE- begin:vcard fn:Vinzenz Hersche n:Hersche;Vinzenz email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;home:033 336 20 56 tel;cell:077 447 73 74 x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bounties?
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 8:02:04 pm Erland Lewin wrote: One thing I'd be prepared to pay for is some sort of handwriting recognition or grafitti-style input. That's already in QT Extended 4.4.2. I can't use it, but it's all a matter of taste! -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bootloader contacts
now, i've got 2 other problems. if i restart my moko, the bootloader hangs up and i see just the splashscreen. booting what? and from where? did someone know anythin about? my workaround is to press the aux-key and then select boot. i think also, it's just, if the usb-cable is connecting to the computer, but i didn't check it exactly. maybe you should check your nand boot env? the other thing, which is a smaller problem, how could i delete every contact with one or two clicks in qtextended 4.4.2? if i must delete every contact by hand, i had a day or more ;) which sqlite-file is just for the contacts? (i've found 2 files, maybe there are more?) or is there a possibility by the system? not hint on the file, but there's a plugin for firefox that allows opening sqlite files with a gui http://code.google.com/p/sqlite-manager/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bounties?
One thing I'd be prepared to pay for is some sort of handwriting recognition or grafitti-style input. That's already in QT Extended 4.4.2. not everybody uses qtopia. and i certainly am willing to spend some money if handwriting recognition would be available for eg debian, like GraffitiAnywhere does: using the whole screen to write, and simple to learn. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bootloader contacts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 arne anka schrieb: now, i've got 2 other problems. if i restart my moko, the bootloader hangs up and i see just the splashscreen. booting what? and from where? i mean just the normal u-boot. most, i want to start qtextended, but i didn't think that this is important, cause it hang up by show the bootloader-splash. did someone know anythin about? my workaround is to press the aux-key and then select boot. i think also, it's just, if the usb-cable is connecting to the computer, but i didn't check it exactly. maybe you should check your nand boot env? yeah, because of this, i send the link too. is something wrong with this file, version? is there a more stable u-boot-image? the other thing, which is a smaller problem, how could i delete every contact with one or two clicks in qtextended 4.4.2? if i must delete every contact by hand, i had a day or more ;) which sqlite-file is just for the contacts? (i've found 2 files, maybe there are more?) or is there a possibility by the system? not hint on the file, but there's a plugin for firefox that allows opening sqlite files with a gui thanks, could be a good thing :D but, how i could connect over firefox into the openmoko? ff doesn't support the fish-protocoll, on sftp it didn't make something, and sqlite hadn't a deamon, so i don't know, how i could connect to the FR (with firefox). another thing is the file; which file i must modify exactly? could i also just delete to delete all contacts or make this a crash? http://code.google.com/p/sqlite-manager/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community - -- Vinzenz Hersche Lehrling 2. Lehrjahr Puzzle ITC GmbH www.puzzle.ch Telefon +41 31 370 22 00 Direkt +41 31 370 22 04 Mobile +41 78 845 24 12 Fax +41 31 370 22 01 Puzzle ist Mitglied der Eclipse Foundation: http://www.puzzle.ch/eclipse/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEUEARECAAYFAkk2XEkACgkQK9d7OHUJmA4xdgCXZMy+ygzdPyQdjfceGStjTRB/ 1wCgpawDwXGJvv8IjpVOtK+PioET0Ms= =v7uU -END PGP SIGNATURE- begin:vcard fn:Vinzenz Hersche n:Hersche;Vinzenz email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;home:033 336 20 56 tel;cell:077 447 73 74 x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bootloader contacts
booting what? and from where? i mean just the normal u-boot. most, i want to start qtextended, but i didn't think that this is important, cause it hang up by show the bootloader-splash. imo it matters, since the splash is shown when booting from flash only. maybe you should check your nand boot env? yeah, because of this, i send the link too. is something wrong with this file, version? is there a more stable u-boot-image? u-boot != boot env the configuration of the boot environment (ie the menu you) lives somewhere else, search the archives for devirginator. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bounties?
I haven't tested it but maybe this works for you: http://www.handhelds.org/project/rosetta/ Saludos On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:05 AM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing I'd be prepared to pay for is some sort of handwriting recognition or grafitti-style input. That's already in QT Extended 4.4.2. not everybody uses qtopia. and i certainly am willing to spend some money if handwriting recognition would be available for eg debian, like GraffitiAnywhere does: using the whole screen to write, and simple to learn. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Oscar Morante GPG: CA7417FF La nostalgia ya no es lo que era - Anónimo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bounties?
I haven't tested it but maybe this works for you: http://www.handhelds.org/project/rosetta/ looks a tad better then cellwriter. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bounties?
Sargun Dhillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just out of curiosity, how many OpenMoko users out there would be willing to pay for bounties? Additionally, how many developers would work for bounties? What sort of bounties would you guys request? How much would you pay? How about using http://cofundos.org/ for this? Cofundos helps to realize open-source software ideas, by providing a platform for their discussion enrichment and by establishing a process for organizing the contributions and interests of different stakeholders in the idea. It's bit like http://www.getacoder.com/ or http://www.rentacoder.com/ but geared towarads FLOSS. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OM2008.x] praise for the new testing image
I've followed the community update tip and upgraded from OM2008.8 stable to testing. After a little havoc caused by the previously installed gsm0710muxd, I finally got it to work on the GTA02v5. I've only had it for a day now, but already I am very pleased with the results! Reduced boot time, volume control during calls, and apparently a very well optimized energy consumption (still evaluating that). Jolly good show, lads!! :D Keep hacking that kernel, you're definitely in the right track now. ;) I can't wait for WiFi to get on track... :) My only gripe is the absence of Raster's keyboard, that I haven't been able to recover after the update... what's the magic there? Happy Hacking, Vasco. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Funding Global Domination
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 09:51:44AM +0100, Minh Ha Duong wrote: Could somebody official in OpenMoko respond to this email and perhaps indicate whether the company would be interested in this idea and perhaps some way of gauging if the community is interested? Perhaps somebody in the Community could design a cool subtle OpenMoko garment? The second option is more like it. It takes a few hours to design a T-Shirt and upload it to an online store where everybody else can go and buy it. So just do it: the entry costs are so low that there is no real need for a formal market study ! There may be trademark issues, better clear that with OpenMoko first! Rui -- P'tang! Today is Boomtime, the 45th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR applications on Debian
Joachim Breitner schreef: Hi, Am Dienstag, den 02.12.2008, 15:01 +0100 schrieb Jelle De Loecker: No package 'libmokojournal2' found No package 'libmokoui2' found No package 'alsa' found Where can I get libmokojournal2 libmokoui2 ? Since they're also part of the 2007.2 branch, shouldn't they be in the repository, too? 2007.2 hasn’t been packaged for Debian yet, so you’ll need to compile these libraries yourself as well. Not sure what package will provide the alsa dependency. Greetings, Joachim After installing the libasound packages (regular and -dev) it went away. I also had to do some searching, but eventually I found libmokojournal2 and was able to compile them myself. Unfortunately, I was trying to compile the GTK version of some library, which apparantly isn't finished yet (It won't compile, under development) I switched to the enlightenment version, but now it complains about ETK and Elemental, but I have NO idea where I need to get these. I can't find any packages in the repo, on any source repository, ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2008.x] praise for the new testing image
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Vasco Névoa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've followed the community update tip and upgraded from OM2008.8 stable to testing. After a little havoc caused by the previously installed gsm0710muxd, I finally got it to work on the GTA02v5. I've only had it for a day now, but already I am very pleased with the results! Reduced boot time, volume control during calls, and apparently a very well optimized energy consumption (still evaluating that). Jolly good show, lads!! :D Keep hacking that kernel, you're definitely in the right track now. ;) I can't wait for WiFi to get on track... :) My only gripe is the absence of Raster's keyboard, that I haven't been able to recover after the update... what's the magic there? Happy Hacking, Vasco. didn't you get WSOD? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Funding Global Domination
The second option is more like it. It takes a few hours to design a T-Shirt and upload it to an online store where everybody else can go and buy it. So just do it: the entry costs are so low that there is no real need for a formal market study ! There may be trademark issues, better clear that with OpenMoko first! not only that. didn't the op intend to propose a way for _openmoko_ to earn more money? while anybody might donate artwork, the actual distribution has to be done on behalf of openmoko -- or more reasonably by openmoko itself. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2008.x] praise for the new testing image
Can you confirm that you can receive an SMS after being *suspended* for ~10 minutes or so? For me the phone comes out of suspend, but I have to reboot (or restart X) to get at the message, and twice the phone (not X) crashed after I accessed a message. Looking for confirmation I am not the only one seeing this with the update ... I got rasters keyboard - in fact I cant get rid of the bloody thing! - I would like to just have terminal and none of the others as they keep changing back and forward halfway through typing messages :) Billk On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 10:43 +, Vasco Névoa wrote: I've followed the community update tip and upgraded from OM2008.8 stable to testing. After a little havoc caused by the previously installed gsm0710muxd, I finally got it to work on the GTA02v5. I've only had it for a day now, but already I am very pleased with the results! Reduced boot time, volume control during calls, and apparently a very well optimized energy consumption (still evaluating that). Jolly good show, lads!! :D Keep hacking that kernel, you're definitely in the right track now. ;) I can't wait for WiFi to get on track... :) My only gripe is the absence of Raster's keyboard, that I haven't been able to recover after the update... what's the magic there? Happy Hacking, Vasco. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR applications on Debian
Hi, On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 11:55:29AM +0100, Jelle De Loecker wrote: I switched to the enlightenment version, but now it complains about ETK and Elemental, but I have NO idea where I need to get these. I can't find any packages in the repo, on any source repository, ... http://svn.enlightenment.org/svn/e/ Next time please search... http://git.openembedded.net/ http://shr.bearstech.com/git/ Greetings, Sascha ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2008.x] praise for the new testing image
Citando Tony Berth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: didn't you get WSOD? No, I never got it, with this image or with any other. I suppose it is HW-related?... probably one of those HW tolerances that is triggered by bad SW habits... :( ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2008.x] praise for the new testing image
Citando William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can you confirm that you can receive an SMS after being *suspended* for ~10 minutes or so? For me the phone comes out of suspend, but I have to reboot (or restart X) to get at the message, and twice the phone (not X) crashed after I accessed a message. Looking for confirmation I am not the only one seeing this with the update ... No problem so far over here, sorry!... I just got a couple of messages a few minutes ago, and it was definitely sleeping... Make sure your home files (if they are on card) that are acessed by QPE are not a problem. Search in logread for any binary compatibility qtopia problems; I remember there are some registry files that qtopia keeps that maybe out of synch with the real libs installed... Something that happened to me was that QPE was exiting because some file-indexing thread was dying... it works fine now that I disabled sd-card (home) indexing in /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Storage.conf. I got rasters keyboard - in fact I cant get rid of the bloody thing! - I would like to just have terminal and none of the others as they keep changing back and forward halfway through typing messages :) You're right, it is a PITA. Do you have QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 inside /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia ? Happy Hacking! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2008.x] praise for the new testing image
Another 2 positive points I forgot to mention: - the UCSD messages are now correctly displayed (yay, I can see my account balance!!) - the illume resume bug (on first tap) is finally gone! (yay, no more danger of running out of battery during the night if an SMS or call comes in). Citando Vasco Névoa [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've followed the community update tip and upgraded from OM2008.8 stable to testing. After a little havoc caused by the previously installed gsm0710muxd, I finally got it to work on the GTA02v5. I've only had it for a day now, but already I am very pleased with the results! Reduced boot time, volume control during calls, and apparently a very well optimized energy consumption (still evaluating that). Jolly good show, lads!! :D Keep hacking that kernel, you're definitely in the right track now. ;) I can't wait for WiFi to get on track... :) My only gripe is the absence of Raster's keyboard, that I haven't been able to recover after the update... what's the magic there? Happy Hacking, Vasco. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
TwitterMoko 0.4 out
hi (sorry for my bad english) i have released a new version of TwitterMoko (a client for twitter) check the wiki page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/TwitterMoko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2008.x] praise for the new testing image
On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 11:53 +, Vasco Névoa wrote: Citando William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can you confirm that you can receive an SMS after being *suspended* for ~10 minutes or so? For me the phone comes out of suspend, but I have to reboot (or restart X) to get at the message, and twice the phone (not X) crashed after I accessed a message. Looking for confirmation I am not the only one seeing this with the update ... No problem so far over here, sorry!... I just got a couple of messages a few minutes ago, and it was definitely sleeping... Make sure your home files (if they are on card) that are acessed by QPE are not a problem. Search in logread for any binary compatibility qtopia problems; I remember there are some registry files that qtopia keeps that maybe out of synch with the real libs installed... Something that happened to me was that QPE was exiting because some file-indexing thread was dying... it works fine now that I disabled sd-card (home) indexing in /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Storage.conf. I got rasters keyboard - in fact I cant get rid of the bloody thing! - I would like to just have terminal and none of the others as they keep changing back and forward halfway through typing messages :) You're right, it is a PITA. Do you have QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 inside /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia ? Happy Hacking! Yes, SD card indexing is off. The only distro that worked was 2007.2 - all the later ones wont receive SMS while suspended. I also used to get registering/PIN problems until I flashed moko10b2 into the GSM, so probably more issues there (vodafone 128K SIM). There are some fixed bugs with almost, but not quite the same symptoms (voice calls are fine for me, they were affected by the bugs too) - - so my thought is that maybe the upgrade didnt cover the fixes. And also yes, I have modified 89qtopia - but it doesn't seem to have much of an effect :( BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2008.x] praise for the new testing image
Citando William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: And also yes, I have modified 89qtopia - but it doesn't seem to have much of an effect :( I found out how my illume keyboard went missing. From the wiki: edit '/etc/enlightenment/default_profile' to use illume theme instead of 'asu' So, if you just want to get rid of it, replace illume with asu inside /etc/enlightenment/default_profile ... But if you want to keep it exclusively for the terminal, I don't know how... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: mplayer with glamo and audio - very slow
Le 03/12/2008 03:38, Leonti Bielski a écrit : Hello! I'm trying to play some video preencoded for my phone with: mencoder file_to_encode.avi -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:vbitrate=300 \ -vf scale=320:240,eq2=1.2:0.5:-0.25,rotate=2 -oac mp3lame -lameopts br=64:cbr \ -o file_for_openmoko To watch it I run: mplayer -vo glamo -zoom -x 480 -y 640 your_file.avi It is played very slow and I get message from mplayer - your system is very slow or something like that. Than I tried it with -nosound option - and I don't get that message and the fps seem acceptable. I've always though video was an issue, but this shows me that audio can significantly slow down the playback. Hi ! I'm having the same trouble, encoding in qPAL as stated for glamo decoding, with the following options: mencoder in.avi -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:vbitrate=300 -ffourcc mp4v -vf scale=352:-2,expand=352:288,eq2=1.2:0.5:-0.25,rotate=2 -oac mp3lame -lameopts br=64:cbr -o out.avi Whe playing the file with nosound (and no zoom), top shows a very low CPU% from mplayer (2-5 at most) so the chip is used, but when the sound gets involved, framerate drops and the sound is not syncronised. (everything done from flash, not the microsd, so the bandwith stufff shouldn't mess). Maybe the problem comes from frame/sound sync in the glamo driver. Pierre. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bounties?
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 9:05:42 pm arne anka wrote: not everybody uses qtopia. I didn't mean to imply that they did, just that it exists. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TwitterMoko 0.4 out
Hi Carlo, TwitterMoko is very cool and I always use it ;) However, are you interested to make a client for Facebook? I really appreciate it too :) Bye and thank you for twittermoko PS: i am italian too :D 2008/12/3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] hi (sorry for my bad english) i have released a new version of TwitterMoko (a client for twitter) check the wiki page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/TwitterMoko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TwitterMoko 0.4 out
Riccardo Centra ha scritto: Hi Carlo, TwitterMoko is very cool and I always use it ;) thanks a lot However, are you interested to make a client for Facebook? I really appreciate it too :) use a browser :) i hate facebook Bye and thank you for twittermoko PS: i am italian too :D e allora parla italiano :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: mplayer with glamo and audio - very slow
I seem to recall there was an issue a while back with pulseaudio transcoding the audio on the fly between identical formats and gobbling CPU in the process. Could that be a possibility here ? On Wednesday 03 December 2008 12:43:26 Pierre Lascar wrote: Le 03/12/2008 03:38, Leonti Bielski a écrit : Hello! I'm trying to play some video preencoded for my phone with: mencoder file_to_encode.avi -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq:vbitrate=300 \ -vf scale=320:240,eq2=1.2:0.5:-0.25,rotate=2 -oac mp3lame -lameopts br=64:cbr \ -o file_for_openmoko To watch it I run: mplayer -vo glamo -zoom -x 480 -y 640 your_file.avi It is played very slow and I get message from mplayer - your system is very slow or something like that. Than I tried it with -nosound option - and I don't get that message and the fps seem acceptable. I've always though video was an issue, but this shows me that audio can significantly slow down the playback. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] gps still no solution
...after installing new fso some weeks ago my gps stopped working... I installed all requested packages, fso-config-gta02, but no gps working (like previous versions...). I tried to downgrade but i have no idea what/where i have to download. I searched on wiki... checked all the possibilities and the frameworkd conf file... now: ogpsd comes with fso? ogpsd it's not packaged on debian (if it's something to be packaged)... with debian comes only gpsd but seems that fso dislikes it, and the config file mentions only ogpsd... I'm sure that someone uf you uses debian with gps... how in the hell??? ;-) with old fso??? if i type cat /dev/ttySAC1 i have no output while when my gps worked i got lots of output... please help me! ;-) d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian and xfce?
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 03.12.2008, 00:36 + schrieb Christopher J. White: On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 21:37 +, Joachim Breitner wrote: Someone willing to do some cleanup and general QA on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian ? I can take a crack at this, since I just recently went through the pain of an install. Thanks! What are your thoughts about duplication of effort between the openmoko.org page and the debian.org page? There's some duplicate copy now, but there is unique and valuable information both pages. I’d prefer if the debian.org wiki contains only concise install information and maybe important warning. Unrelated or general stuff (e.g. how to make a backup) ought to be moved out to a subpage or the openmoko wiki IMHO and only linked. The openmoko wiki page seems (and that’s ok) more a place for discussion and further (inofficial, or risky) hacks related to Debian. I think this is a useful separation. The openmoko wiki page needs to be cleaned up thoroughly, it seem, as it is large, confusing and has some outdated information. TIA, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] gps still no solution
Davide Scaini [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: now: ogpsd comes with fso? ogpsd it's not packaged on debian (if it's It is part of fso-frameworkd package. It is not a separate binary or process. I'm sure that someone uf you uses debian with gps... how in the hell??? ;-) with old fso??? I use sys_pm_gps=/sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0 if [ ! -d $sys_pm_gps ]; then sys_pm_gps=/sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0 fi echo 1 | sudo tee $sys_pm_gps/pwron to turn GPS on and gpsd -F gpsd.sock -N -n -D 1 /dev/ttySAC1 to talk to it. I can then run e.g. echo rw | netcat localhost gpsd gps.dump to capture all GPS data. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TwitterMoko 0.4 out
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 03.12.2008, 13:03 +0100 schrieb Carlo Minucci: i have released a new version of TwitterMoko (a client for twitter) are there any DebianOnFreeRunner users that would use TwitterMoko? I could package it, but as I’m not using twitter myself I would need someone to test the package and be responsive to user requests. Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] gps still no solution
Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 03.12.2008, 15:20 +0100 schrieb Davide Scaini: ...after installing new fso some weeks ago my gps stopped working... I installed all requested packages, fso-config-gta02, but no gps working (like previous versions...). I tried to downgrade but i have no idea what/where i have to download. I searched on wiki... checked all the possibilities and the frameworkd conf file... now: ogpsd comes with fso? ogpsd it's not packaged on debian (if it's something to be packaged)... with debian comes only gpsd but seems that fso dislikes it, and the config file mentions only ogpsd... I'm sure that someone uf you uses debian with gps... how in the hell??? ;-) with old fso??? if i type cat /dev/ttySAC1 i have no output while when my gps worked i got lots of output... it works here. Are you testing it with zhone? Greetings, Joachim -- Joachim nomeata Breitner Debian Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | ICQ# 74513189 | GPG-Keyid: 4743206C JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~nomeata signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] gps still no solution
Joachim Breitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 03.12.2008, 15:20 +0100 schrieb Davide Scaini: ...after installing new fso some weeks ago my gps stopped working... I installed all requested packages, fso-config-gta02, but no gps working (like previous versions...). I tried to downgrade but i have no idea what/where i have to download. I searched on wiki... checked all the possibilities and the frameworkd conf file... now: ogpsd comes with fso? ogpsd it's not packaged on debian (if it's something to be packaged)... with debian comes only gpsd but seems that fso dislikes it, and the config file mentions only ogpsd... I'm sure that someone uf you uses debian with gps... how in the hell??? ;-) with old fso??? if i type cat /dev/ttySAC1 i have no output while when my gps worked i got lots of output... it works here. Are you testing it with zhone? I'm having the same experience. fso-gpsd used to work fine and now all of a sudden after upgrades it has refused to work for a while. Greetings, Joachim -- Joakim Verona ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] gps still no solution
does your issue match http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/265 ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: mplayer with glamo and audio - very slow
Le mercredi 03 décembre 2008 à 13:51 +, Antony King a écrit : I seem to recall there was an issue a while back with pulseaudio transcoding the audio on the fly between identical formats and gobbling CPU in the process. Could that be a possibility here ? I used -vo oss with alsa-oss on 2008.9, so there should be no pulseaudio around. Pierre. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TwitterMoko 0.4 out
Joachim Breitner schreef: Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 03.12.2008, 13:03 +0100 schrieb Carlo Minucci: i have released a new version of TwitterMoko (a client for twitter) are there any DebianOnFreeRunner users that would use TwitterMoko? I could package it, but as I’m not using twitter myself I would need someone to test the package and be responsive to user requests. Greetings, Joachim I'm currently using Twitux on my debian install, I don't mind trying out TwitterMoko Greetings, Jelle De Loecker ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
andy-tracking kernel?
I've seen a lot of references to the andy-tracking kernel. A search of archives yields some info about this with regard to a shift to the 2.6.27 kernel. However, I've not been able to really understand what's in it, or what the current state of the kernel is. Would someone mind elaborating a little on a few points: 1. Is this generally available? If so, where? 2. I'm currently running Debian with the stock kernel that gets put in place by the install.sh script. Can I use this kernel with Debian? There are caveats on the Debian pages about using other kernel, so has anyone used this with Debian successfully? 3. What do I get with it? What is at risk? Thanks... I apologize if this info is out there somewhere, but I have spent a significant amount of time digging through past threads, and I'm just not getting a complete picture. ...cj ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OMoney? :O
Hi all, I was thinking about an expense handling program (like HandyExpenses on Symbian phones), I have many ideas in mind but didn't write anything yet, but looking at some screenshots at linuxtogo I saw these: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/index.php?page=6 I didn't find such an application (tried googling and at opkg.org)...Does anybody knows where to find and try it? Thank you in advance, bye! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First impressions on new Android rootfs
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Gothnet [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: //just kidding, though am interested because android currently looks like the best possibility of turning my neo from an interesting looking brick to an actual phone I agree Android looks like it has a lot of promise - but if you want a functioning phone today - I'd suggest trying out QtExtended 4.4.2 - it doesn't give you much more than basic phone functionality, but I've been using it as my day-to-day phone for a month now, and am generally pretty happy with it... Warren ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] gps still no solution
Hi, On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 04:00:00PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joachim Breitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 03.12.2008, 15:20 +0100 schrieb Davide Scaini: ...after installing new fso some weeks ago my gps stopped working... I installed all requested packages, fso-config-gta02, but no gps working (like previous versions...). I tried to downgrade but i have no idea what/where i have to download. I searched on wiki... checked all the possibilities and the frameworkd conf file... now: ogpsd comes with fso? ogpsd it's not packaged on debian (if it's something to be packaged)... with debian comes only gpsd but seems that fso dislikes it, and the config file mentions only ogpsd... I'm sure that someone uf you uses debian with gps... how in the hell??? ;-) with old fso??? if i type cat /dev/ttySAC1 i have no output while when my gps worked i got lots of output... it works here. Are you testing it with zhone? I'm having the same experience. fso-gpsd used to work fine and now all of a sudden after upgrades it has refused to work for a while. Hmm, I just reinstalled frameworkd and it works without problems. Can you try the same? 1. backup 2. remove everything fso related $ dpkg -P fso-config-gta02 fso-frameworkd fso-frameworkd-wireless-glue fso-gpsd fso-sounds-openmoko-nonfree nodm gpsd 3. I got some warnings about non empty directories and removed them manually 4. install $ apt-get update $ apt-get install fso-frameworkd fso-frameworkd-wireless-glue fso-sounds-openmoko-nonfree fso-config-gta02 5. disbable frameworkd $ mv /etc/init.d/fso-frameworkd /etc/init.d/fso-frameworkd.backup 6. reboot 7. ssh and start screen with 3 windows (in this order): $ frameworkd # and wait some seconds $ /usr/share/doc/fso-frameworkd/examples/ogpsd_resource.py $ /usr/share/doc/fso-frameworkd/examples/ogpsd_signals.py 8. go outside for at least 10 minutes 9. check screen window 3 optional: strace the pid/fd (get them with `lsof | grep ttySAC1`) Greetings, Sascha ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] gps still no solution
$ dpkg -P fso-config-gta02 fso-frameworkd fso-frameworkd-wireless-glue fso-gpsd fso-sounds-openmoko-nonfree nodm gpsd this comes down to what i suspected already: some conflicting configuration settings. the far more interesting part would be, to narrow down the config files involved. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Optimization team update (11/23 ~ 11/29)
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:42 PM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: buzz / echo / hiss... no software change can fix buzz. It's baked into the hardware and you will have to do fairly extreme meddling with your soldering iron to impact it. Would it be better to wait until A7 is out and then buy a Freerunner? How hard is it to do the component change on a A6? Jake ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2008.x] praise for the new testing image
I've been trying the illume (gray) theme with the testing image, and it is badly broken - Enlightenment keeps crashing at random moments for reasons unknown. I gave up on trying to have illume's keyboard, and reverted to the original asu (black) theme. The qtopian keyboard sucks, but at least everything else rocks. I find it very strange that the whole image works so solidly with the asu theme and is so flakey with the illume theme... Citando Vasco Névoa [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Citando William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: And also yes, I have modified 89qtopia - but it doesn't seem to have much of an effect :( I found out how my illume keyboard went missing. From the wiki: edit '/etc/enlightenment/default_profile' to use illume theme instead of 'asu' So, if you just want to get rid of it, replace illume with asu inside /etc/enlightenment/default_profile ... But if you want to keep it exclusively for the terminal, I don't know how... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster keyboard on daily testing
See: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate#How_to_install_the_illume_.28Raster.27s.29_keyboard_.3F Beware: at least on my system, when I replace the base asu theme with the illume theme, Enlightenment crashes a lot. Citando Armin ranjbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How to get raster keyboard working on daily testing images ? -- Armin ranjbar , System Administrator ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: andy-tracking kernel?
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Christopher J. White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've seen a lot of references to the andy-tracking kernel. A search of archives yields some info about this with regard to a shift to the 2.6.27 kernel. However, I've not been able to really understand what's in it, or what the current state of the kernel is. Would someone mind elaborating a little on a few points: 1. Is this generally available? If so, where? http://people.openmoko.org/andy/ Right now the kernel is bigger than 2MB, and you have to either use Qi as the boot loader (it's still under heavy development now but some people use it) or use U-Boot. For U-boot check: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-f528198 I read this kernel will be smaller when it becomes the stable kernel (with a recommended configuration for distributors). You might want to read this email: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-November/006945.html 2. I'm currently running Debian with the stock kernel that gets put in place by the install.sh script. Can I use this kernel with Debian? There are caveats on the Debian pages about using other kernel, so has anyone used this with Debian successfully? I don't know. Some paths have changed in /sys and some user-space tools will have to change. I don't know how this affects Debian. Check: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-November/006789.html 3. What do I get with it? What is at risk? I've hear that it has better suspend/resume support. It has some improvements but I don't know about all of them. Thanks... I apologize if this info is out there somewhere, but I have spent a significant amount of time digging through past threads, and I'm just not getting a complete picture. To build from sources you need to: git clone git://git.openmoko.org/git/kernel.git linux-2.6 git-checkout --track -b local-andy-tracking origin/andy-tracking git-pull # it should be up to date cd linux-2.6 cp ./arch/arm/configs/gta02-moredrivers-defconfig .config There's a build script that you can run. You need to install a toolchain to build it. For instance, in the build script I use: export CROSS_COMPILE=ccache /usr/local/openmoko/arm/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2008.x] praise for the new testing image
On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:18:37 + Vasco Névoa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been trying the illume (gray) theme with the testing image, and it is badly broken - Enlightenment keeps crashing at random moments for reasons unknown. I find this too, but if you go into Illume's settings (this requires a little patience for the obvious reason), press Engine and select Software, then it should go away. I've been using that for weeks now with no problems after that adjustment. Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [latest 2008.9] USB issues?
On 2008.12.02.19.57, Tony Berth wrote: | On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | You must add g_ether to /etc/modules to get the module to load on | boot. | | | On 2008.12.02.18.34, Tony Berth wrote: | | Dear list, | | | | I just installed the latest 2008.9 kernel and jffs2 and when I connect to | a | | debian 4 box it doesn't get listed as a USB device. As a result, I can't | | establish USB networking. Am I doing something wrong here? | | | | Thanks | | | | Tony | | | is that the solution and how can I add that module? The /etc/modules file is just a plain-text list of modules that are dynamically loaded at boot time. My solution is only a guess really, but worked for me in a similar situation. When running the latest kernel that had this issue, try running modprobe g_ether on the openmoko command line. That should enable the usb ethernet module. If that works, you can then add just g_ether as a line in the /etc/modules file to automatically do this modprobe every boot. --Brock ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] gps still no solution
thanks i'll try this solutions this evening hopefully or next week (i'm going abroad for some days). thanks d On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 5:14 PM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $ dpkg -P fso-config-gta02 fso-frameworkd fso-frameworkd-wireless-glue fso-gpsd fso-sounds-openmoko-nonfree nodm gpsd this comes down to what i suspected already: some conflicting configuration settings. the far more interesting part would be, to narrow down the config files involved. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: andy-tracking kernel?
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| I've seen a lot of references to the andy-tracking kernel. A search
| of archives yields some info about this with regard to a shift to the
| 2.6.27 kernel. However, I've not been able to really understand what's
| in it, or what the current state of the kernel is.
|
| Would someone mind elaborating a little on a few points:
|
| 1. Is this generally available? If so, where?
http://people.openmoko.org/andy has new binary versions every day or two
at the moment. These are moredriver kernels that have everything
critical built in the kernel, but there's also a matching module tarball.
If you're using U-Boot to boot it, U-Boot has a 2MByte kernel limit by
default and you need to meddle it:
setenv bootcmd setenv bootargs \${bootargs_base} \${mtdparts}\; nand
read.e 0x3200 kernel 0x30\; bootm 0x3200
saveenv
Qi (the new bootloader replacing U-Boot) doesn't have these problems.
| 2. I'm currently running Debian with the stock kernel that gets put in
| place by the install.sh script. Can I use this kernel with Debian?
| There are caveats on the Debian pages about using other kernel, so has
| anyone used this with Debian successfully?
Dunno what the caveats involve, I used Debian in runlevel 3 anyway with
random kernels.
| 3. What do I get with it? What is at risk?
|
| Thanks... I apologize if this info is out there somewhere, but I have
| spent a significant amount of time digging through past threads, and I'm
| just not getting a complete picture.
You can try it out on an SD Card for very low risk.
The main features are
~ - Suspend / Resume changes (should be way more stable)
~ - pcf50633 driver rewrite (fixes some troubles)
~ - WLAN driver now uses mainline SDIO stack (should fix some probs)
~ - Android-ready
~ - Kernel features and fixes between 2.6.24 and 2.6.28
There will be some breakage of features for a while since there are many
changes to /sys paths used by various things, but the rootfs people
should catch up soon.
- -Andy
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Re: [OM2008.x] praise for the new testing image
Read the bugreport: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1767 So we have a slow illume-theme with rasters keyboard or a fast asu-theme without an usable keyboard (especially for non-engish users)... Maybe i'll try to hack the edj-file, did manage to get the qwerty-menu back in the wrench, but messing around with the keyboard only gave me errors when running build.sh... (See Method 2 from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Toggle) cheers Martin Vasco Névoa wrote: I've been trying the illume (gray) theme with the testing image, and it is badly broken - Enlightenment keeps crashing at random moments for reasons unknown. I gave up on trying to have illume's keyboard, and reverted to the original asu (black) theme. The qtopian keyboard sucks, but at least everything else rocks. I find it very strange that the whole image works so solidly with the asu theme and is so flakey with the illume theme... Citando Vasco Névoa [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Citando William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: And also yes, I have modified 89qtopia - but it doesn't seem to have much of an effect :( I found out how my illume keyboard went missing. From the wiki: edit '/etc/enlightenment/default_profile' to use illume theme instead of 'asu' So, if you just want to get rid of it, replace illume with asu inside /etc/enlightenment/default_profile ... But if you want to keep it exclusively for the terminal, I don't know how... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-OM2008.x--praise-for-the-new-testing-image-tp1608389p1609603.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian and xfce?
Hi, On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 08:20:58PM +0100, Pander wrote: What are the window managers to have been reported to work on OpenMoko so far: - enlightenment - icewm - xfce - fvwm :) Greetings, Sascha ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bounties?
I would be willing to contribute to a bounty that interests me. Of particular interest is getting syncronization support for Openmoko into Conduit [1]. Anyone else into that? Also think about ransoms. If you have a project you'd like to work on, present it to the community and see what kind of funding can be slapped together. -Charles Pax [1] http://www.conduit-project.org/ On 12/3/08, Chris Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 9:05:42 pm arne anka wrote: not everybody uses qtopia. I didn't mean to imply that they did, just that it exists. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bounties?
Erland Lewin ha scritto: 2008/12/3 Sargun Dhillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Just out of curiosity, how many OpenMoko users out there would be willing to pay for bounties? Additionally, how many developers would work for bounties? What sort of bounties would you guys request? How much would you pay? I think I'd be prepared to pay for bounties. Probably on the order of €30-40. One thing I'd be prepared to pay for is some sort of handwriting recognition or grafitti-style input. Something is coming also for Illume [1], thanks to Swisscom ;) [1] http://www.om.vptt.ch/site/?p=382 -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
dualboot. u-boot now, Qi later
I was considering starting to use the Neo as a daily phone, so I need to dualboot. Are there anything special I need to consider to make the partitioning compatible with future Qi bootloader? I thought of making a few smaller partitions for different kernels and a few larger of different rootfs + one large for my personal data. But that will mean more than 4 partitions. Will logical partions work just as well with Qi? Are there any special order which is better? Or will I have wipe all systems and start over when Qi arrives? /Peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First impressions on new Android rootfs
Warren Baird wrote: I agree Android looks like it has a lot of promise - but if you want a functioning phone today - I'd suggest trying out QtExtended 4.4.2 - it doesn't give you much more than basic phone functionality, but I've been using it as my day-to-day phone for a month now, and am generally pretty happy with it... Warren Qtopia is one of the two things I didn't try, SHR being the other. I gave up on the rest because of the unresponsive interfaces, poor battery life, terrible remote echo (tried everything I could find), refusal to wake up in a timely fashion on incoming calls etc. I was also discouraged by the prominence of we should work on stuff for GTA03 comments on the lists. I now have a cheap sony-ericsson for the sake of my sanity, so I'll wait until android or other distro can provide a bit more than basic phone functions, or at least do it better than what I have. Android looks like it could be the quickest route to solving most of the issues and the echo was gone straight away. i know I ought to get off my a*se and help, but after the dayjob I don't have much appetite for coding and debugging right now. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/First-impressions-on-new-Android-rootfs-tp1603648p1609901.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Funding Global Domination
Le mercredi 03 décembre 2008, arne anka a écrit : The second option is more like it. It takes a few hours to design a T-Shirt and upload it to an online store where everybody else can go and buy it. So just do it: the entry costs are so low that there is no real need for a formal market study ! There may be trademark issues, better clear that with OpenMoko first! not only that. didn't the op intend to propose a way for _openmoko_ to earn more money? while anybody might donate artwork, the actual distribution has to be done on behalf of openmoko -- or more reasonably by openmoko itself. Rui: There are lots of cool artwork under a Cc: license on the wiki including the hardware schematics and : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Desktop_wallpaper_gallery Copyright are not an issue, please. No company will give you a blanket agreement to use their name as you please in any derivative product, but no company will deny fans the right to make T-Shirts with their name on it, if you show them specific T-Shirts design. Arne: OpenMoko made it clear that they were not into selling derived products (I can't bother to find the post, that was a few months ago.). Cordially, Minh -- Minh HA DUONG, Chargé de Recherche, CNRS CIRED, Centre International de Recherches sur l'Environnement et le Développement http://minh.haduong.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bounties?
This site looks like what we should start using. I'd be willing to add money to a bounty for several things - a good integrated media player, decent volume control, wifi that 'just works', etc. Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Sargun Dhillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just out of curiosity, how many OpenMoko users out there would be willing to pay for bounties? Additionally, how many developers would work for bounties? What sort of bounties would you guys request? How much would you pay? How about using http://cofundos.org/ for this? Cofundos helps to realize open-source software ideas, by providing a platform for their discussion enrichment and by establishing a process for organizing the contributions and interests of different stakeholders in the idea. It's bit like http://www.getacoder.com/ or http://www.rentacoder.com/ but geared towarads FLOSS. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: andy-tracking kernel?
Andy Green wrote:
Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| I've seen a lot of references to the andy-tracking kernel. A search
| of archives yields some info about this with regard to a shift to the
| 2.6.27 kernel. However, I've not been able to really understand what's
| in it, or what the current state of the kernel is.
|
| Would someone mind elaborating a little on a few points:
|
| 1. Is this generally available? If so, where?
http://people.openmoko.org/andy has new binary versions every day or two
at the moment. These are moredriver kernels that have everything
critical built in the kernel, but there's also a matching module tarball.
If you're using U-Boot to boot it, U-Boot has a 2MByte kernel limit by
default and you need to meddle it:
setenv bootcmd setenv bootargs \${bootargs_base} \${mtdparts}\; nand
read.e 0x3200 kernel 0x30\; bootm 0x3200
saveenv
Qi (the new bootloader replacing U-Boot) doesn't have these problems.
| 2. I'm currently running Debian with the stock kernel that gets put in
| place by the install.sh script. Can I use this kernel with Debian?
| There are caveats on the Debian pages about using other kernel, so has
| anyone used this with Debian successfully?
Dunno what the caveats involve, I used Debian in runlevel 3 anyway with
random kernels.
| 3. What do I get with it? What is at risk?
|
| Thanks... I apologize if this info is out there somewhere, but I have
| spent a significant amount of time digging through past threads, and I'm
| just not getting a complete picture.
You can try it out on an SD Card for very low risk.
The main features are
~ - Suspend / Resume changes (should be way more stable)
~ - pcf50633 driver rewrite (fixes some troubles)
~ - WLAN driver now uses mainline SDIO stack (should fix some probs)
~ - Android-ready
~ - Kernel features and fixes between 2.6.24 and 2.6.28
There will be some breakage of features for a while since there are many
changes to /sys paths used by various things, but the rootfs people
should catch up soon.
Yesterday i tried to boot debian from sd-card with andy-tracking kernel
version 2d1d9ec0e2d009d0 and it didn't work very well.
First problem was that it seems to lack support for vfat partitions. I
use a 64MB swapfile which is on a vfat partition used by fstab while
booting. But at the point when activating the swap file it hangs and get
a timeout after 120sec and than do nothing.
After i removed the corresponding fstab line it boots up but the
hal-daemon didn't work anymore with the new kernel. Therefore some
things like the oevents from fso doesn't work anymore. This is maybe
related to the changed sysfs structure.
So at the moment i stay at the 2.6.24 openmoko kernel from the daily
build url as long as the userland tools use the old sysfs values.
Ciao,
Rainer
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Re: Raster keyboard on daily testing
Beware:
at least on my system, when I replace the base asu theme with the
illume theme, Enlightenment crashes a lot.
just wanted to confirm since I am not sure on how to troubleshoot it
it crashes with
*** glibc detected *** enlightenment: malloc(): memory corruption: 0x004fcf98
***
in the terminal
strace is not very informative to me (I have no clue in internals of
enlightment)
[pid 1122] write(13,
;\3\5\0%\0\240\0\0\0\0\0Z\1\302\0D\0\22\0\201\3\n\0$\0..., 64) = 64
[pid 1122] read(13,
\1\1\357A\0\0\0\0\21\2\240\0\350\341\25\0+\0\0\0(5\21\0..., 32) = 32
[pid 1122] gettimeofday({1701625338, 2388}, NULL) = 0
[pid 1122] write(13, 8\3\4\0%\0\240\0\0\0\10\0\0\0\0\0, 16) = 16
[pid 1122] gettimeofday({1701625338, 8092}, NULL) = 0
[pid 1122] ioctl(13, FIONREAD, [0])= 0
[pid 1122] gettimeofday({1701625338, 14974}, NULL) = 0
[pid 1122] --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) ---
[pid 1122] write(2, SEGMENTATION FAULT \n, 29) = 29
where 13 is
lrwx--1 root root 64 Dec 3 12:31 /proc/1122/fd/13 -
inotify
ok ... installing gdb and -dbg packages ;-)
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Re: First impressions on new Android rootfs
Gothnet wrote: Warren Baird wrote: I agree Android looks like it has a lot of promise - but if you want a functioning phone today - I'd suggest trying out QtExtended 4.4.2 - it doesn't give you much more than basic phone functionality, but I've been using it as my day-to-day phone for a month now, and am generally pretty happy with it... Warren Qtopia is one of the two things I didn't try, SHR being the other. I gave up on the rest because of the unresponsive interfaces, poor battery life, terrible remote echo (tried everything I could find), refusal to wake up in a timely fashion on incoming calls etc. I was also discouraged by the prominence of we should work on stuff for GTA03 comments on the lists. I now have a cheap sony-ericsson for the sake of my sanity, so I'll wait until android or other distro can provide a bit more than basic phone functions, or at least do it better than what I have. Android looks like it could be the quickest route to solving most of the issues and the echo was gone straight away. i know I ought to get off my a*se and help, but after the dayjob I don't have much appetite for coding and debugging right now. I'm uploading a new image right now that includes Ruis virtual keyboard. Please give it 30 minutes or so to complete the upload. Sean ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster keyboard on daily testing
ok... got a backtrace
[Switching to Thread 0x4088fba0 (LWP 1851)]
0x407c396c in _int_free () from /lib/libc.so.6
(gdb) bt full
#0 0x407c396c in _int_free () from /lib/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.
#1 0x407c3cc8 in free () from /lib/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.
#2 0x40dad958 in _ds_shpix_free () from
/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/dropshadow/linux-gnueabi-arm/module.so
No locals.
#3 0x40daf7d8 in _ds_shadow_reshape () from
/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/dropshadow/linux-gnueabi-arm/module.so
No locals.
#4 0x0002a0c0 in _e_main_cb_idler_before ()
No locals.
#5 0x4062d804 in _ecore_idle_enterer_call () from /usr/lib/libecore.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#6 0x40630ea0 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libecore.so.0
No symbol table info available.
and unloaded drop dropshadow module still alive although I did a few things
;-)
do you have dropshadow enabled?
also previously stracing it was making it less prone to crashing... I wondered
why -- now it seems to match -- it never entered _ecore_idle_enterer_call I
guess -- was constantly somewhat busy?
On Wed, 03 Dec 2008, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
Beware:
at least on my system, when I replace the base asu theme with the
illume theme, Enlightenment crashes a lot.
just wanted to confirm since I am not sure on how to troubleshoot it
it crashes with
*** glibc detected *** enlightenment: malloc(): memory corruption: 0x004fcf98
***
in the terminal
strace is not very informative to me (I have no clue in internals of
enlightment)
[pid 1122] write(13,
;\3\5\0%\0\240\0\0\0\0\0Z\1\302\0D\0\22\0\201\3\n\0$\0..., 64) = 64
[pid 1122] read(13,
\1\1\357A\0\0\0\0\21\2\240\0\350\341\25\0+\0\0\0(5\21\0..., 32) = 32
[pid 1122] gettimeofday({1701625338, 2388}, NULL) = 0
[pid 1122] write(13, 8\3\4\0%\0\240\0\0\0\10\0\0\0\0\0, 16) = 16
[pid 1122] gettimeofday({1701625338, 8092}, NULL) = 0
[pid 1122] ioctl(13, FIONREAD, [0])= 0
[pid 1122] gettimeofday({1701625338, 14974}, NULL) = 0
[pid 1122] --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) ---
[pid 1122] write(2, SEGMENTATION FAULT \n, 29) = 29
where 13 is
lrwx--1 root root 64 Dec 3 12:31 /proc/1122/fd/13 -
inotify
ok ... installing gdb and -dbg packages ;-)
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Re: First impressions on new Android rootfs
I'm uploading a new image right now that includes Ruis virtual keyboard. Please give it 30 minutes or so to complete the upload. Sounds fabulous, Sean. I wonder... will I be able to use the virtual keyboard to enter a PIN for the simcard? I can't remove that from the card (some providers think it's fun to make that so). Paul -- Heaven from all creatures hides the book of Fate. -Alexander Pope http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2009 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First impressions on new Android rootfs
On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:12:59 +0700 Sean McNeil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm uploading a new image right now that includes Ruis virtual keyboard. Please give it 30 minutes or so to complete the upload. Sean Sean, which uImage should we take? uImage-android or uImage-tracking? Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First impressions on new Android rootfs
Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: Sean, which uImage should we take? uImage-android or uImage-tracking? Franky Take a look here - http://n2.nabble.com/andy-tracking-kernel--td1609293.html for details on the kernel difference. and what you'll need to do to u-boot to get the tracking kernel to boot. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/First-impressions-on-new-Android-rootfs-tp1603648p1610252.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
How to remove microSD card
Ok, so I'm feeling totally moronic now ... I'm pretty sure I entered my microSD card some 3 months ago, but I can't seem to figure out how to remove it again ... some howto for a gta02? I can't seem to find any lever or pressure thingie to get it to pop open there and the info mentioned on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo1973 (gently sliding) doesn't apply, nothing slides ... Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to remove microSD card
On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 20:05 +0100, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: Ok, so I'm feeling totally moronic now ... I'm pretty sure I entered my microSD card some 3 months ago, but I can't seem to figure out how to remove it again ... some howto for a gta02? I can't seem to find any lever or pressure thingie to get it to pop open there and the info mentioned on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo1973 (gently sliding) doesn't apply, nothing slides ... The general method is hook your nails under the metal pull and pray! Graeme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to remove microSD card
Ok, so I'm feeling totally moronic now ... I'm pretty sure I entered my microSD card some 3 months ago, but I can't seem to figure out how to remove it again ... some howto for a gta02? My how-to for you: carefully put a finger nail in the center of the lid and gently pull up. I always do it like that and it has worked all the time. Paul -- Heaven from all creatures hides the book of Fate. -Alexander Pope http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2009 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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The general method is hook your nails under the metal pull and pray! Right. I forgot that last bit. Thanks. p ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to remove microSD card
On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:19:52 +0100 Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, so I'm feeling totally moronic now ... I'm pretty sure I entered my microSD card some 3 months ago, but I can't seem to figure out how to remove it again ... some howto for a gta02? My how-to for you: carefully put a finger nail in the center of the lid and gently pull up. I always do it like that and it has worked all the time. Paul yes! tx! Oh, btw: I prayed first :-) Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to remove microSD card
On Dec 3, 2008, at 11:05 AM, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: Ok, so I'm feeling totally moronic now ... I'm pretty sure I entered my microSD card some 3 months ago, but I can't seem to figure out how to remove it again ... some howto for a gta02? I can't seem to find any lever or pressure thingie to get it to pop open there and the info mentioned on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo1973 (gently sliding) doesn't apply, nothing slides ... Franky There is a space at the top of the SD card. put your finger nail in there and pull up gently. I just figured this out as well. PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: Ok, so I'm feeling totally moronic now ... I'm pretty sure I entered my microSD card some 3 months ago, but I can't seem to figure out how to remove it again ... some howto for a gta02? I can't seem to find any lever or pressure thingie to get it to pop open there and the info mentioned on What about using a piece of scotch tape to pull the metal? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First impressions on new Android rootfs
The image doesn't work for me. I'm using the daily u-boot build from yesterday, and the latest android rootfs and kernel. I have tried it with 2 different sd cards, a 256, and a 2gb both formatted with a 50mb fat16 and the rest ext2. it just sits at a black screen, I've waited over 20 minutes to see if it does anything. I've also checked out the sd card in my computer to discover that android didn't write anything to the ext2 partition.. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/First-impressions-on-new-Android-rootfs-tp1603648p1610406.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First impressions on new Android rootfs
which uImage should we take? uImage-android or uImage-tracking? Right.. I stuck the new jffs and uImage-android on the Freerunner. I can get to the system even though the SIM card is not recognised (probably because the SIM's pin is still in place). Pressing menu (power button) takes me away from the prompt, works well. Looks nice, works well. Good job! Could not get to a shell, but perhaps I should've tried that as root? Paul (Just too bad about the phone bit... ;-) -- Heaven from all creatures hides the book of Fate. -Alexander Pope http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2009 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Internet Key on Neo Freerunner?
Al Johnson wrote: Only some 3G SIMs are problematic (bug #666), and that seems to have been fixed with the recent gsm firmware update. It now works for my O2 UK SIM anyway. It does? I'll have to check that out! Thanks for the heads up! (I moved from Orange UK to O2 because of this bug.) -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: First impressions on new Android rootfs
I tried this with 512MB SD (it works): Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/mmcblk0p1 17814 250040 6 FAT16 /dev/mmcblk0p27815 15568 248128 83 Linux Make sure you do in fdisk f,2,6 as described in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD#Prepare_the_SD_card (Preparing and formating). I think f,2,6 or the size of FAT16 partition solves the problem. Both partitions are empty (not sure if necessary). Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:39:37 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: First impressions on new Android rootfs The image doesn't work for me. I'm using the daily u-boot build from yesterday, and the latest android rootfs and kernel. I have tried it with 2 different sd cards, a 256, and a 2gb both formatted with a 50mb fat16 and the rest ext2. it just sits at a black screen, I've waited over 20 minutes to see if it does anything. I've also checked out the sd card in my computer to discover that android didn't write anything to the ext2 partition.. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/First-impressions-on-new-Android-rootfs-tp1603648p1610406.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community _ Werden Sie Mitglied der neuen Windows Live Messenger Familie! http://get.live.com___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2008.x] praise for the new testing image
Another 2 positive points I forgot to mention: - the UCSD messages are now correctly displayed (yay, I can see my account balance!!) how? i call *102# and dialer just disappear... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: First impressions on new Android rootfs
Sorry not f, use t,2,6 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 20:38:29 + Subject: RE: First impressions on new Android rootfs I tried this with 512MB SD (it works): Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/mmcblk0p1 17814 250040 6 FAT16 /dev/mmcblk0p27815 15568 248128 83 Linux Make sure you do in fdisk f,2,6 as described in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD#Prepare_the_SD_card (Preparing and formating). I think f,2,6 or the size of FAT16 partition solves the problem. Both partitions are empty (not sure if necessary). Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:39:37 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: First impressions on new Android rootfs The image doesn't work for me. I'm using the daily u-boot build from yesterday, and the latest android rootfs and kernel. I have tried it with 2 different sd cards, a 256, and a 2gb both formatted with a 50mb fat16 and the rest ext2. it just sits at a black screen, I've waited over 20 minutes to see if it does anything. I've also checked out the sd card in my computer to discover that android didn't write anything to the ext2 partition.. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/First-impressions-on-new-Android-rootfs-tp1603648p1610406.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hol dir noch heute die neue Beta des Windows Live Messengers! Hier klicken! _ Werden Sie Mitglied der neuen Windows Live Messenger Familie! http://get.live.com___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: mplayer with glamo and audio - very slow
I tried it with andy-tracking kernel and with mplayer -vo glamo my_file.avi it worked well. But when I tried to resize it with -zoom -x 480 -y 620 it started to play slow again. Is there any way to make scaling in glamo chip? My conclusion that the sound problem lies in kernel - I switched back to 2.6.24 and I can't play video with sound again. Leonti On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Pierre Lascar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le mercredi 03 décembre 2008 à 13:51 +, Antony King a écrit : I seem to recall there was an issue a while back with pulseaudio transcoding the audio on the fly between identical formats and gobbling CPU in the process. Could that be a possibility here ? I used -vo oss with alsa-oss on 2008.9, so there should be no pulseaudio around. Pierre. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Why echo solution is not in framework?
Hello! A lot of FSO, SHR users use echo solution from: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1486414|a1518726 to get rid of echo. It works very well. So why it is still not in framework git? Does it have some drawbacks which can't allow fso guys to include it in frameworkd? Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Raster keyboard on daily testing
On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:13:28 -0500 Yaroslav Halchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and unloaded drop dropshadow module still alive although I did a few things ;-) do you have dropshadow enabled? where did you do this ? -- Armin ranjbar , System Administrator ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: TwitterMoko 0.4 out
Jelle De Loecker ha scritto: I'm currently using Twitux on my debian install, I don't mind trying out TwitterMoko Greetings, Jelle De Loecker thanks :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why echo solution is not in framework?
Leonti Bielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1486414|a1518726 Grr, that link does not work without javascript. Had to wait a while for iceweasel to start. It works very well. So why it is still not in framework git? Does it have some drawbacks which can't allow fso guys to include it in frameworkd? $ git clone git://git.freesmartphone.org/framework.git $ grep -r %N0 . ./framework/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/channel.py: c.append( %N028B ) # Long Echo Cancellation: active, -6db ./framework/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/channel.py: c.append( %N0125 ) # Noise reduction: active, -6db So yes, instead of %N0187 it has %N028B and %N0125. Is there any documentation on what %N0187 is supposed to do? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] gps still no solution
hi sasha, i followed your recipe (without removing nodm, i'm frightened about playing with this...), but /usr/share/doc/fso-frameworkd/examples/ogpsd_resource.py and i get dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freesmartphone.ousaged was not provided by any .service files so it breaks... right now i have no tools to test your recipe till the end... now i'll try if it works out of the box with its /etc/init.d/frameworkd then i'll give up... (..for a while) d On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Sascha Wessel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 04:00:00PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joachim Breitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Am Mittwoch, den 03.12.2008, 15:20 +0100 schrieb Davide Scaini: ...after installing new fso some weeks ago my gps stopped working... I installed all requested packages, fso-config-gta02, but no gps working (like previous versions...). I tried to downgrade but i have no idea what/where i have to download. I searched on wiki... checked all the possibilities and the frameworkd conf file... now: ogpsd comes with fso? ogpsd it's not packaged on debian (if it's something to be packaged)... with debian comes only gpsd but seems that fso dislikes it, and the config file mentions only ogpsd... I'm sure that someone uf you uses debian with gps... how in the hell??? ;-) with old fso??? if i type cat /dev/ttySAC1 i have no output while when my gps worked i got lots of output... it works here. Are you testing it with zhone? I'm having the same experience. fso-gpsd used to work fine and now all of a sudden after upgrades it has refused to work for a while. Hmm, I just reinstalled frameworkd and it works without problems. Can you try the same? 1. backup 2. remove everything fso related $ dpkg -P fso-config-gta02 fso-frameworkd fso-frameworkd-wireless-glue fso-gpsd fso-sounds-openmoko-nonfree nodm gpsd 3. I got some warnings about non empty directories and removed them manually 4. install $ apt-get update $ apt-get install fso-frameworkd fso-frameworkd-wireless-glue fso-sounds-openmoko-nonfree fso-config-gta02 5. disbable frameworkd $ mv /etc/init.d/fso-frameworkd /etc/init.d/fso-frameworkd.backup 6. reboot 7. ssh and start screen with 3 windows (in this order): $ frameworkd # and wait some seconds $ /usr/share/doc/fso-frameworkd/examples/ogpsd_resource.py $ /usr/share/doc/fso-frameworkd/examples/ogpsd_signals.py 8. go outside for at least 10 minutes 9. check screen window 3 optional: strace the pid/fd (get them with `lsof | grep ttySAC1`) Greetings, Sascha ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
working SIM install, network problems
Debian stable, and neorunner I have a semi-functioning Neo right now, thanks to the Hackable:1 folkes (http://www.hackable1.org/) I have changed all instances, that I find, from 192.168.0.* to 192.168.1.*, for my lan. I've followed this wiki page for networking debian; http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#Debian.2C_Ubuntu_and_others also changing the 192.168.0.* address'. even though I have the Neo debian machines configured. not sure what log files would be helpful, but it the output from the debian /var/log/syslog; Dec 3 14:00:34 riverside kernel: usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 13 Dec 3 14:00:35 riverside kernel: usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices Dec 3 14:00:35 riverside kernel: usb0: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:10.1-2, CDC Ethernet Device, 8e:0b:55:07:0b:6c Dec 3 14:00:35 riverside NetworkManager: debug info^I[1228341635.150394] nm_hal_device_added (): New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/ usb_device_1457_5122_noserial'). Dec 3 14:00:35 riverside NetworkManager: debug info^I[1228341635.151091] nm_hal_device_added (): New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/ usb_device_1457_5122_noserial_if1'). Dec 3 14:00:35 riverside NetworkManager: debug info^I[1228341635.244100] nm_hal_device_added (): New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/ usb_device_1457_5122_noserial_if0'). Dec 3 14:00:35 riverside NetworkManager: debug info^I[1228341635.291089] nm_hal_device_added (): New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/net_8e_0b_55_07_0b_6c'). Dec 3 14:00:35 riverside NetworkManager: debug info^I[1228341635.310031] nm_hal_device_added (): New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/ usb_device_1457_5122_noserial_usbraw'). Dec 3 14:00:35 riverside avahi-daemon[2868]: New relevant interface usb0.IPv4 for mDNS. Dec 3 14:00:35 riverside avahi-daemon[2868]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface usb0.IPv4 with address 192.168.1.200. Dec 3 14:00:35 riverside avahi-daemon[2868]: Registering new address record for 192.168.1.200 on usb0. Dec 3 14:00:45 riverside kernel: usb0: no IPv6 routers present any help would be greatly appreciated. thank you PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] gps still no solution
sorry but... as far as i know gpsd is not something to use with fso now... because fso uses ogpsd (that is embedded in fso)... or am i totally wrong? d On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Davide Scaini [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: now: ogpsd comes with fso? ogpsd it's not packaged on debian (if it's It is part of fso-frameworkd package. It is not a separate binary or process. I'm sure that someone uf you uses debian with gps... how in the hell??? ;-) with old fso??? I use sys_pm_gps=/sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0 if [ ! -d $sys_pm_gps ]; then sys_pm_gps=/sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0 fi echo 1 | sudo tee $sys_pm_gps/pwron to turn GPS on and gpsd -F gpsd.sock -N -n -D 1 /dev/ttySAC1 to talk to it. I can then run e.g. echo rw | netcat localhost gpsd gps.dump to capture all GPS data. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to remove microSD card
On 12/3/08, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: Ok, so I'm feeling totally moronic now ... I'm pretty sure I entered my microSD card some 3 months ago, but I can't seem to figure out how to remove it again ... some howto for a gta02? I can't seem to find any lever or pressure thingie to get it to pop open there and the info mentioned on What about using a piece of scotch tape to pull the metal? -- check also following thread: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1490212 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First impressions on new Android rootfs
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Matthias Camenzind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried this with 512MB SD (it works): Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/mmcblk0p1 17814 250040 6 FAT16 /dev/mmcblk0p27815 15568 248128 83 Linux Would you please spend 5 minutes and post a short list of what works and what does not. Perhaps worth a spot on the WIKI. I'd like to know what to expect before I embark on re-flashing from current QTExtended 4.4.2 (calls working well with no echo or buzz when on handset, suspend/resume, occasional late or duplicate sms notifications and other minor grizzles ) and also having to prepare an SD card just to find out on Android I still can't do the basics again like make or receive calls, sms or suspend. cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: dualboot. u-boot now, Qi later
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I was considering starting to use the Neo as a daily phone, so I need to | dualboot. | | Are there anything special I need to consider to make the partitioning | compatible with future Qi bootloader? | | I thought of making a few smaller partitions for different kernels and a | few larger of different rootfs + one large for my personal data. | | But that will mean more than 4 partitions. Will logical partions work | just as well with Qi? Are there any special order which is better? | | Or will I have wipe all systems and start over when Qi arrives? No Qi is adapatable to existing common partition schemes on uSD. What it does is look in first three uSD partitions in turn for ext2 / 3 filesystem, if it finds one and /boot/uImage-GTA02.bin in there it will pull it in and try to boot it. If none of those worked out, on GTA02 anyway it will try to boot from NAND kernel similar to U-Boot (except Qi studies the image and pulls the correct length of NAND for any size kernel). If it sees a FAT partition it'll just skip it for consideration for booting and try the next one. On GTA03 it'll be a similar deal except it looks for /boot/uImage-GTA03.bin, it means you can isert the same uSD and filesystems on multiple kinds of device and it will pull the correct kernel for that device. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkk3D6wACgkQOjLpvpq7dMrWOQCdHaheLMJUVaZ9asFRAOw6q2bV FzoAnijsmj314/sWMjggPgTsLUg4G2U4 =iPdK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First impressions on new Android rootfs
Paul wrote: which uImage should we take? uImage-android or uImage-tracking? Right.. I stuck the new jffs and uImage-android on the Freerunner. I can get to the system even though the SIM card is not recognised (probably because the SIM's pin is still in place). Pressing menu (power button) takes me away from the prompt, works well. Looks nice, works well. Good job! Could not get to a shell, but perhaps I should've tried that as root? Paul (Just too bad about the phone bit... ;-) Hi, do you know whether the wake from suspend issue has been resolved in this image? Peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] gps still no solution
Yeah! Finally it works! Needed to work is to remove a file named something like ogpsd.conf in /etc/freesmartphone and remove also the folder.Now i'm not that sure about the names,but right now i have no way to check it..Pretty sure.Next week i'll send you the right one if something wrong. D 2008/12/3, Davide Scaini [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ...after installing new fso some weeks ago my gps stopped working... I installed all requested packages, fso-config-gta02, but no gps working (like previous versions...). I tried to downgrade but i have no idea what/where i have to download. I searched on wiki... checked all the possibilities and the frameworkd conf file... now: ogpsd comes with fso? ogpsd it's not packaged on debian (if it's something to be packaged)... with debian comes only gpsd but seems that fso dislikes it, and the config file mentions only ogpsd... I'm sure that someone uf you uses debian with gps... how in the hell??? ;-) with old fso??? if i type cat /dev/ttySAC1 i have no output while when my gps worked i got lots of output... please help me! ;-) d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First impressions on new Android rootfs
Hi Thanks for providing an image. Few words from me: I'm able to make calls, but it's rather hard to hear other person in a speaker (he does hear me very well, no echo issue). After receiving a message (yep, it works) I lost contact with my gsm network, so I can't answer. Reboots did not work, i'm reflashing right now. Couldn't find my wifi network, but it maybe my router's issue. Resume from a suspend does not work. Browser and few apps too, but it's not high prioritaire right now, I think ;) Everything beside that - is great! Thanks and waiting for more ;) ps. After reflashing, I still don't have a gsm connection. After reinserting sim, I've got a connection and lost it again. Some problems here.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
