Re: Openttd is now in opkg.org!
Hi Aapo, Aapo Rantalainen schrieb: Tell me how OE works (or is mentioned to work)? Or link to manual. I have some other recipe that I want to be merged in OE, but no idea how the system works. http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Documentation If you have something ready, put it in the bugzilla and add me to the CCers. Regards Robert signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openttd is now in opkg.org!
Hi, Sander van Grieken schrieb: On Sunday 07 December 2008 13:30:14 Robert Schuster wrote: Hi Aapo, Aapo Rantalainen schrieb: Openttd is now in opkg.org! I would like it better if the bitbake recipe changes can be moved into OE. That's theory. In practice, you submit the recipe plus patches in OE bugtracker and then it's forgotten about. Sure, OE people are just people. AFAIK everyone is pretty busy. I submitted 2 games there a couple of months ago and they're still not merged, and thus not available to the openmoko community, except in binary form from opkg.org Please give me the links to those bugzilla entries. Maybe I can do something about it. Regards Robert signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
case manufacturing
Does anyone know where one can get alternate case designs for the freerunner manufactured in quantities of less than 100. Any information would be appreciated. Rakshat -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OMoney Milestone 1
unfortunatelly not! The only '.log' which exists in the whole system is: /var/volatile/tmp/x.log Thanks Tony On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Thomas Bumbl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it should be /home/root/*.log 2008/12/10 Tony Berth [EMAIL PROTECTED] probably a stupid question but ... where can I find the log of that application? I'm using the latest jffs (Om2008.9-gta02-20081117.rootfs.jffs2) and did the updates from the test repos Thanks On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Thomas Bumbl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for your replies. First question would be: why the hell is this thread mixed up with anotherone at nabble? Then: @Arigead: I have planned in location awareness (the database includes a field for gps coords) All location based features will come later though Other stuff has higher priority (delete/modify history; settings; clean up code) I'd not like to look at the history on the phone as even on that great screen I think you're on a hiding to nothing @KaZer: feel free to add it I know, but I am willing to take that challange as this is a feature I'd like to see A desktop client would be nice too though @Tony Berth: please post the log and which rootfs you use everything works fine here @all: omoney should be available over the shr repo so just opkg install omoney when you are on shr 2008/12/10, Tony Berth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Thomas Bumbl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to announce the initial release of OMoney! OMoney ... bookkeeping on the go. One might ask, why the hell do we need a bookkeeping software on a phone? Because my experience shows that if one does not record the gains and expenses one forgets half of them. And ... Because we can. As OMoney is one of those release early, release often programs milestone 1 at the moment includes only the following corefeatures: * Displays the current available amount of money * One can do transactions to add and deduce money * Automatic keyboard call * A history table which includes date, time, amount, purpose and location of the transaction * Basic error handling Downloadlink for the ipk: [1] More features will come soon: Currently I am implementing a settings dialog (to e.g. set the currency [at the moment one has to edit a constant in the omoney file]) For more planned features look at the project's bug tracker. From a technical point of view OMoney uses: * python * python-ecore * python-evas * python-edje * python-etk (for entry and table widget) * python-sqlite3 What do I want from you? * Feedback:Do you like the app or do you think the author has gone round the bend? What could be improved? Features you would like to see? How could one display the history more efficiently? * Patches:If you think a part of code is inefficient, too unflexible, incomplete, buggy, etc feel free to contribute a patch. Be kind, this is my first application with GUI I hope there are a few people who find this application useful. The sources and the bugtracker are located here [2] P.S.: Special thanks to Ainulindale for helping me with bitbake. And special thanks [1] http://omoney.googlecode.com/files/omoney_milestone1-1-r0_armv4t.ipk [2] http://code.google.com/p/omoney/ Hi I did install it , rebboted FR but when I tried to run I got an 'Application Error' dialog! Thanks Tony -- mfg Bumbl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- mfg Bumbl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
2008/12/11 rakshat hooja [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anyone know where one can get alternate case designs for the freerunner manufactured in quantities of less than 100. Any information would be appreciated. ponoko.com would do it for you, or emachineshop.com there are a few companies around that will do 3d printing [1], and that's pretty cheap and immediate. try a google search you'd need to design and spec the thing yourself of course, and i have no idea on costs [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_printing ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
rakshat, ponoko.com would do it for you, or emachineshop.com if you get some pricing, could you let us know -- even your desgin? i am still pondering the idea of a new casing ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No more optimization team
On Thursday 11 December 2008 02:23:14 Steve Mosher wrote: RE 1024. The optimization team was not working on 1024. there is one dedicated engineer working on 1024 who specializes in this area. There is some understanding but not certainty on the root cause which may be related to the base station rather than the phone. I don't intend to distract the engineer assigned this task by asking him is it done yet? But I do want to assure folks that there is a dedicated smart as heck person on the problem. More later. Good news, then If you need some type of help on debugging (e.g. trying possible solutions and/or generating logs) count on me. I suffer this bug even with patch applied. It only works for me if I force calypso to *never* deep sleep. Thank you very much!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Notes about the current testing image
Dear community, Here is the note I kept about the current testing image. Part of it was already in the status update I sent before. I modified a bit to match the current situation and put it here so it could be archived. Please remember that since it's not in stable repo, it is a subject to change. What I wrote here only applies to the testing image for the last couple days. Upgrade from Om2008.9 - Note: you can also flash new image in http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing Note: only upgrade from a clean Om2008.9 image is tested. sed -i -e 's%Om2008.8%testing%' /etc/opkg/*.conf /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop screen -DR opkg update opkg -force-overwrite upgrade # please ans Y to all questions # the sshd (dropbear) will restart, so you need to reconnect and do # 'screen -DR' again opkg upgrade # just in case shutdown -r now To get the fastest boot time you also need to remove the following packages: opkg remove task-base-nfs task-base-smbfs task-base-bluetooth \ task-base-usbgadget avahi-daemon avahi-autoipd blueprobe \ usb-gadget-mode portmap exquisite exquisite-theme-freerunner \ exquisite-themes Known problems about upgrade * Dropbear restart during opkg upgrade * some obsolete packages (like kernel modules) still left in system * will purge your incompatible e config, so you might need to set stuffs like suspend time again. Known issues * usb network won't work at first boot if you flash new image (#2096) * Illume sigsegv (#1767) - make sure you use asu theme if you use software_16 engine. If you want to use illume theme, you must switch to 'software' engine via illume config (in the upper shelf) * must remove 'ro' in kernel boot parameter if you use sd boot. * Most of the http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8#Known_Issues are still there. Changes related to the dismissed optimization team -- #1267: echo AT%N patch applied, credit of Treviño #1489: qtopia volume bar #69: boot time scripts. Some qtopia modifications as well. #1347, #2113: userspace suspend/resume Touch screen driver enhancement: see http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/002822.html #2031: Scroll list enhancement. There are still many todo items left on my list and some items half done, but we didn't have enough time to finish them all. Sorry. Echo No definitive software solution yet. A way to improve it is: control.4 Speaker Playback Volume in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state the max value is 127, 95 works best on my neo. With volume level 3 or 4 in qtopia dialer, the other side can only hear a minor trace of echo while I get good audio quality. Regards, John ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
Shapeways seems to be a decent 3D-printing shop, with different materials to choose from: http://www.shapeways.com/ F. On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:58:08 +0100, rakshat hooja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know where one can get alternate case designs for the freerunner manufactured in quantities of less than 100. Any information would be appreciated. Rakshat -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No more optimization team
On Wednesday 10 December 2008 12:11:53 arne anka wrote: setting ti_calypso_deep_sleep = never. That way, it drains a lot of battery even when suspended :( don't see that with debian/fso -- i was afraid of it too, but mickey said it wouldn't matter compared to the amount of power drawn by permanent re-connecting ... I know it, but this is not a solution for me. At this moment, I'm only getting reliable calls with SHR. I lose calls when suspended with all the other distros I tried so far. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No more optimization team
setting ti_calypso_deep_sleep = never. That way, it drains a lot of battery even when suspended :( don't see that with debian/fso -- i was afraid of it too, but mickey said it wouldn't matter compared to the amount of power drawn by permanent re-connecting ... I know it, but this is not a solution for me. At this moment, I'm only getting reliable calls with SHR. I lose calls when suspended with all the other distros I tried so far. sorry, but i fail to understand how this relates to the question of power consumption. and doesn't shr use fso as well? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ALSA
Clemens Dörrhöfer wrote: Is there any useful Information in the net, which tells me a little something about the big mistery ALSA on openmoko? After installing the pymixer I can no longer use my moko as phone because I neither have sound nor microfone. All information I find about this topic is more or less useless. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Thanks you all for the help I think I can go on from here. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Switching the orientation of the screen
2008/12/11 Clemens Dörrhöfer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am starting to learn pygtk and my helloworld Project is this primitiv gui, which lets you switch the orientatin of the screen. I don't like the automatic switching and with the help of this, I can do it manually. It's not pretty, but it works. If you find it usefull, feel free to use. The tar archive contains a mercurial repository so don't hesitate to send me changelogs if you come along big programming sins. does it cure the problems that are present when this is done from the commend-line, with xrandr? i've been using a shell script, but find switching orientation more than about 3 times will give problems like a misaligned screen and screen artefacts, that need an x restart ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No more optimization team
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:55 AM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: setting ti_calypso_deep_sleep = never. That way, it drains a lot of battery even when suspended :( don't see that with debian/fso -- i was afraid of it too, but mickey said it wouldn't matter compared to the amount of power drawn by permanent re-connecting ... I know it, but this is not a solution for me. At this moment, I'm only getting reliable calls with SHR. I lose calls when suspended with all the other distros I tried so far. sorry, but i fail to understand how this relates to the question of power consumption. and doesn't shr use fso as well? shr uses indeed fso, but they disable deep sleep by default, just because of the bouncing calypso issue (one can simply enable deep sleep if feeling adventurous). Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No more optimization team
On Thursday 11 December 2008 10:55:35 arne anka wrote: sorry, but i fail to understand how this relates to the question of power consumption. and doesn't shr use fso as well? Sorry, I'm not explaying myself... #1024 is annoying me a lot for two reasons 1) If I want to receive calls with phone suspended, I have only one option: SHR As SHR is based in FSO, I suppose you're right, FSO should also work. But only SHR works out of the box. I have tried FSO M4, but I haven't tried to force calypso to never deep sleep. 2) Not deep sleeping, power consumption is not optimal. I know continuously reconnecting consumes more power, but we're consuming more than necessary. And my battery lifetime is not the best in the world ;) I can live without PIM, without calendar, even without Doom ;), but I do need GSM telephony for my work. Having this bug solved, probably I could use FR as daily phone, and be more active on community. I think a lot other people are on the same situation as me. But, as you can read on Steve Mosher's answer, there is one person actively working on this bug. Great news! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Switching the orientation of the screen
Robin Paulson wrote: 2008/12/11 Clemens Dörrhöfer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am starting to learn pygtk and my helloworld Project is this primitiv gui, which lets you switch the orientatin of the screen. I don't like the automatic switching and with the help of this, I can do it manually. It's not pretty, but it works. If you find it usefull, feel free to use. The tar archive contains a mercurial repository so don't hesitate to send me changelogs if you come along big programming sins. does it cure the problems that are present when this is done from the commend-line, with xrandr? i've been using a shell script, but find switching orientation more than about 3 times will give problems like a misaligned screen and screen artefacts, that need an x restart ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Since it just uses xrandr the answer must be no. It is just a handy gui for xrandr not more. But so far I did not run into major broblems with xrandr, that is not with 2008.9. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Switching the orientation of the screen
Robin Paulson ha scritto: 2008/12/11 Clemens Dörrhöfer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am starting to learn pygtk and my helloworld Project is this primitiv gui, which lets you switch the orientatin of the screen. I don't like the automatic switching and with the help of this, I can do it manually. It's not pretty, but it works. If you find it usefull, feel free to use. The tar archive contains a mercurial repository so don't hesitate to send me changelogs if you come along big programming sins. does it cure the problems that are present when this is done from the commend-line, with xrandr? i've been using a shell script, but find switching orientation more than about 3 times will give problems like a misaligned screen and Sorry for being a little OT, but what do you mean with problems that are present when this is done from the commend-line, with xrandr? If you mean the mess after the rotation (strange lines/graphic that fixes after a refresh) I noticed this doesn't appear using the gestures rotation, anyone knows why? If you mean misalignment of the touchscreen calibration, I noticed (speaking about gestures rotation) that this appears only when the screen is rotated upside down (phone oriented vertically with hole on top ;) ), while the remaining three positions are well calibrated. Is there an explanation about this? Thank you in advance, bye! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Am I completely daft or isn't the focus on FSO and Paroli et all precisely what you're whining about? If you have to whine, do so at serious problems like the White Screen of Death (which is now apparently solved, at least worksforme). There is a kernel image somewhere that doesn't go WSOD under any circumstances? Or just some patches? I would like to switch to 2.6.28 - much faster and the WIFI seems to work well. I never suspend so I don't know about WSOD on resume, but all 2.6.28/2.6.26 kernels I have tried tends to go white whenever I start a game that switch screen orientation. Duke nukem is impossible, numptyphysics may also fail to start. The screen is dead then, but not the phone. (ssh works) So I use old 2.6.24, which seems to work, but nothing is as snappy as with the newer kernels. Menus appear slower, games are slow and jumpy, there is generally more waiting. And forget the WIFI. But at least I have a useable phone with SHR. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Switching the orientation of the screen
2008/12/11 DJDAS [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sorry for being a little OT, but what do you mean with problems that are present when this is done from the commend-line, with xrandr? If you mean the mess after the rotation (strange lines/graphic that fixes after a refresh) I noticed this doesn't appear using the gestures rotation, anyone knows why? yes. how do you refresh, without restarting x server - could it be done in a .sh script? If you mean misalignment of the touchscreen calibration, I noticed (speaking about gestures rotation) that this appears only when the yes. i'm not using gestures, too unreliable for me. i've got 2 scripts, such as: xrandr -o 0 to get portrait, and similar for landscape. both produce the same problems, as does numptyphysics when it exits screen is rotated upside down (phone oriented vertically with hole on top ;) ), while the remaining three positions are well calibrated. Is there an explanation about this? Thank you in advance, bye! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Switching the orientation of the screen
Clemens Dörrhöfer wrote: I am starting to learn pygtk and my helloworld Project is this primitiv gui, which lets you switch the orientatin of the screen. I don't like the automatic switching and with the help of this, I can do it manually. It's not pretty, but it works. If you find it usefull, feel free to use. The tar archive contains a mercurial repository so don't hesitate to send me changelogs if you come along big programming sins. I have written some time ago the same application ;-) It's called pygtk-rotate and is available on OpenMokoProjects http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/pygtk-rotate/ http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/434/pygtk-rotate_1.1_armv4t.ipk -- Valéry Febvre ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone
Steve Mosher wrote: Hi Steve, A list on the wiki of all severe problems and the end user details would be great, especially for future reference. Some of the problems, like Buzz, 1024 (recamp) seem to happen to some people and not others. I never had the buzz problem, go figure. I've created the page. 1. problems: WSOD, recamp, Buzz, echo ( insert gripe) 2. End user data: a. email (optional) b. Date code on phone ( under battery) c. s/n d. p/n e carrier. f. 900Mhz or 850? g distro etc... The page links from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Hardware_Issues#Poor_Audio_Quality And you can find it here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Buzz_or_not Please ad fields if necessary anything else? It might be nice to know what band the phone is operating on ( 900/1800/1900) if that's possible. Tell me how I can find that info on the phone :) Steve Regards, Michel -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:49:03AM +0100, Helge Hafting wrote: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Am I completely daft or isn't the focus on FSO and Paroli et all precisely what you're whining about? If you have to whine, do so at serious problems like the White Screen of Death (which is now apparently solved, at least worksforme). There is a kernel image somewhere that doesn't go WSOD under any circumstances? Or just some patches? At https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1841 is a patch a pre-compiled kernel for FSO M4.1 The daily testing images already integrate this patch (AFAIK). Rui -- Or not. Today is Setting Orange, the 53rd day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Switching the orientation of the screen
Valery Febvre wrote: Clemens Dörrhöfer wrote: I am starting to learn pygtk and my helloworld Project is this primitiv gui, which lets you switch the orientatin of the screen. I don't like the automatic switching and with the help of this, I can do it manually. It's not pretty, but it works. If you find it usefull, feel free to use. The tar archive contains a mercurial repository so don't hesitate to send me changelogs if you come along big programming sins. I have written some time ago the same application ;-) It's called pygtk-rotate and is available on OpenMokoProjects http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/pygtk-rotate/ http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/434/pygtk-rotate_1.1_armv4t.ipk Well I guess I have invented the wheel once again. But since this was primarly a project for learning pygtk it was no waste of time :-) I have some nice ideas, which I want to implement with pygtk and this time I will search for it before I create a second wheel. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:49:03AM +0100, Helge Hafting wrote: | Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: | Am I completely daft or isn't the focus on FSO and Paroli et all | precisely what you're whining about? | | If you have to whine, do so at serious problems like the White Screen of | Death (which is now apparently solved, at least worksforme). | | There is a kernel image somewhere that doesn't go WSOD under | any circumstances? Or just some patches? | | At https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1841 is a patch a pre-compiled | kernel for FSO M4.1 | | The daily testing images already integrate this patch (AFAIK). Both stable and andy-tracking have the no deep sleep workaround from Nicolas Dufresne and so far no customer has told they saw a WSOD from blanking or suspend since using it. Something different (hopefully easier to figure out) is busted if there is a different WSOD now on game[s] that switch screen orientation. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklA+SsACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpQYACeISV3xmboRixnCUDqr2EX7Q/7 zfoAoIAntTCpVGX06xyRzYBuQ00IBwY5 =BRP+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Notes about the current testing image
Hello John, I try yesterday image, and the boot speed is really fast, its great! I flash the neo, change /etc/enlightment/default for illume! And when i try to change config illume, desktops, fonts, theme, the qpe crash, and i cannot change it! This is a detected bug? Thanks for your work, Samuel Dear community, Here is the note I kept about the current testing image. Part of it was already in the status update I sent before. I modified a bit to match the current situation and put it here so it could be archived. Please remember that since it's not in stable repo, it is a subject to change. What I wrote here only applies to the testing image for the last couple days. Upgrade from Om2008.9 - Note: you can also flash new image in http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing Note: only upgrade from a clean Om2008.9 image is tested. sed -i -e 's%Om2008.8%testing%' /etc/opkg/*.conf /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop screen -DR opkg update opkg -force-overwrite upgrade # please ans Y to all questions # the sshd (dropbear) will restart, so you need to reconnect and do # 'screen -DR' again opkg upgrade # just in case shutdown -r now To get the fastest boot time you also need to remove the following packages: opkg remove task-base-nfs task-base-smbfs task-base-bluetooth \ task-base-usbgadget avahi-daemon avahi-autoipd blueprobe \ usb-gadget-mode portmap exquisite exquisite-theme-freerunner \ exquisite-themes Known problems about upgrade * Dropbear restart during opkg upgrade * some obsolete packages (like kernel modules) still left in system * will purge your incompatible e config, so you might need to set stuffs like suspend time again. Known issues * usb network won't work at first boot if you flash new image (#2096) * Illume sigsegv (#1767) - make sure you use asu theme if you use software_16 engine. If you want to use illume theme, you must switch to 'software' engine via illume config (in the upper shelf) * must remove 'ro' in kernel boot parameter if you use sd boot. * Most of the http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8#Known_Issues are still there. Changes related to the dismissed optimization team -- #1267: echo AT%N patch applied, credit of Treviño #1489: qtopia volume bar #69: boot time scripts. Some qtopia modifications as well. #1347, #2113: userspace suspend/resume Touch screen driver enhancement: see http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/002822.html #2031: Scroll list enhancement. There are still many todo items left on my list and some items half done, but we didn't have enough time to finish them all. Sorry. Echo No definitive software solution yet. A way to improve it is: control.4 Speaker Playback Volume in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state the max value is 127, 95 works best on my neo. With volume level 3 or 4 in qtopia dialer, the other side can only hear a minor trace of echo while I get good audio quality. Regards, John ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Notes about the current testing image
If you read the email you attached below ... bug #1767 BillK On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 12:04 +, Samuel Pereira wrote: Hello John, I try yesterday image, and the boot speed is really fast, its great! I flash the neo, change /etc/enlightment/default for illume! And when i try to change config illume, desktops, fonts, theme, the qpe crash, and i cannot change it! This is a detected bug? Thanks for your work, Samuel Dear community, Here is the note I kept about the current testing image. Part of it was already in the status update I sent before. I modified a bit to match the current situation and put it here so it could be archived. Please remember that since it's not in stable repo, it is a subject to change. What I wrote here only applies to the testing image for the last couple days. Upgrade from Om2008.9 - Note: you can also flash new image in http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing Note: only upgrade from a clean Om2008.9 image is tested. sed -i -e 's%Om2008.8%testing%' /etc/opkg/*.conf /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop screen -DR opkg update opkg -force-overwrite upgrade # please ans Y to all questions # the sshd (dropbear) will restart, so you need to reconnect and do # 'screen -DR' again opkg upgrade # just in case shutdown -r now To get the fastest boot time you also need to remove the following packages: opkg remove task-base-nfs task-base-smbfs task-base-bluetooth \ task-base-usbgadget avahi-daemon avahi-autoipd blueprobe \ usb-gadget-mode portmap exquisite exquisite-theme-freerunner \ exquisite-themes Known problems about upgrade * Dropbear restart during opkg upgrade * some obsolete packages (like kernel modules) still left in system * will purge your incompatible e config, so you might need to set stuffs like suspend time again. Known issues * usb network won't work at first boot if you flash new image (#2096) * Illume sigsegv (#1767) - make sure you use asu theme if you use software_16 engine. If you want to use illume theme, you must switch to 'software' engine via illume config (in the upper shelf) * must remove 'ro' in kernel boot parameter if you use sd boot. * Most of the http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8#Known_Issues are still there. Changes related to the dismissed optimization team -- #1267: echo AT%N patch applied, credit of Treviño #1489: qtopia volume bar #69: boot time scripts. Some qtopia modifications as well. #1347, #2113: userspace suspend/resume Touch screen driver enhancement: see http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/002822.html #2031: Scroll list enhancement. There are still many todo items left on my list and some items half done, but we didn't have enough time to finish them all. Sorry. Echo No definitive software solution yet. A way to improve it is: control.4 Speaker Playback Volume in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state the max value is 127, 95 works best on my neo. With volume level 3 or 4 in qtopia dialer, the other side can only hear a minor trace of echo while I get good audio quality. Regards, John ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
Thursday 11 December 2008 skrev rakshat hooja: ponoko.com would do it for you, or emachineshop.com if you get some pricing, could you let us know -- even your desgin? i am still pondering the idea of a new casing ... Thanks. will update when I get pricing. My design is still at the idea stage - add a USB keyboard (qwerty) into the case design itself. Will make it heavier but helps my use case as I want to stop carrying my laptop with me when I have the Freerunner and the onscreen kb (illume), though good, is slightly small when typing out documents. (Guess I am looking for a Blackberry equvalent) If you end up getting this made... be sure to tell people here, i'm sure you could make a bit of coin selling those :) (i for one would be happy to take one off you if they turn out well ;) ) -- ..Dan // Leinir.. http://leinir.dk/ Co- existence or no existence - Piet Hein ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
ponoko.com would do it for you, or emachineshop.com if you get some pricing, could you let us know -- even your desgin? i am still pondering the idea of a new casing ... Thanks. will update when I get pricing. My design is still at the idea stage - add a USB keyboard (qwerty) into the case design itself. Will make it heavier but helps my use case as I want to stop carrying my laptop with me when I have the Freerunner and the onscreen kb (illume), though good, is slightly small when typing out documents. (Guess I am looking for a Blackberry equvalent) Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone
I'm kinda confused here... is this buzz issue the one where the caller (not the neo) hears the GSM buzzing? The one that has a SOP repair paper with the Big C?... or is it something else? Citando Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Steve Mosher wrote: Hi Steve, A list on the wiki of all severe problems and the end user details would be great, especially for future reference. Some of the problems, like Buzz, 1024 (recamp) seem to happen to some people and not others. I never had the buzz problem, go figure. I've created the page. 1. problems: WSOD, recamp, Buzz, echo ( insert gripe) 2. End user data: a. email (optional) b. Date code on phone ( under battery) c. s/n d. p/n e carrier. f. 900Mhz or 850? g distro etc... The page links from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Hardware_Issues#Poor_Audio_Quality And you can find it here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Buzz_or_not Please ad fields if necessary anything else? It might be nice to know what band the phone is operating on ( 900/1800/1900) if that's possible. Tell me how I can find that info on the phone :) Steve Regards, Michel -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone
Hi All, I added another column to indicate echo problems - I think it would be good to get info on both of these issues. With regard to buzz, do you think it is necessary to differentiate between no buzz at all, always buzz, and buzz only with headset? My understanding was that using a headset also has an influence. Regards, Andreas Michel wrote: Steve Mosher wrote: Hi Steve, A list on the wiki of all severe problems and the end user details would be great, especially for future reference. Some of the problems, like Buzz, 1024 (recamp) seem to happen to some people and not others. I never had the buzz problem, go figure. I've created the page. 1. problems: WSOD, recamp, Buzz, echo ( insert gripe) 2. End user data: a. email (optional) b. Date code on phone ( under battery) c. s/n d. p/n e carrier. f. 900Mhz or 850? g distro etc... The page links from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Hardware_Issues#Poor_Audio_Quality And you can find it here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Buzz_or_not Please ad fields if necessary anything else? It might be nice to know what band the phone is operating on ( 900/1800/1900) if that's possible. Tell me how I can find that info on the phone :) Steve Regards, Michel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Service commands
Am Thursday 11 December 2008 08:41:20 schrieb Atilla Filiz: Are these Dbus signals? org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.SendUssdRequest() is a dbus command, org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.IncomingUssd() is a signal. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.testing (2008.9 upgraded) - Settings not running
Unfortunately, this doesnt fix it - Ive added to the bug report. BillK On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 09:27 +0100, Gunnar AAstrand Grimnes wrote: The problem is probably broken python-ekt bindings, the upgrade path from 2008.08 to testing is (was?) broken. See https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2127 for a fix and more explanation. - Gunnar W.Kenworthy wrote: I am using 2008.testing (2008.9 upgraded) and the Settings app wont start - same if I run exposure.py in a terminal, and no debug is printed. A ps aux shows exposure running, but no window appears and the command line returns without printing anything. Is there a way to debug python apps and see where its going wrong? BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.testing (2008.9 upgraded) - Settings not running
Hi BillK, Your version of python-etk is correct so this doesn't seem to be related to upgrade. Can you try exposure.py -f run and paste the results just like in https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2088 ? - John On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 09:36:46PM +0900, William Kenworthy wrote: Unfortunately, this doesnt fix it - Ive added to the bug report. BillK On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 09:27 +0100, Gunnar AAstrand Grimnes wrote: The problem is probably broken python-ekt bindings, the upgrade path from 2008.08 to testing is (was?) broken. See https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2127 for a fix and more explanation. - Gunnar W.Kenworthy wrote: I am using 2008.testing (2008.9 upgraded) and the Settings app wont start - same if I run exposure.py in a terminal, and no debug is printed. A ps aux shows exposure running, but no window appears and the command line returns without printing anything. Is there a way to debug python apps and see where its going wrong? BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: top bar clock in testing
On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 20:16 +0100, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 02:11:21 +0300 Vadim, Efimov [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 00:21:35 +0300, ivvmm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another vote for this. The analog clock is rather useless. enlightenment have extra module - tclock,( many useful modules ) who can package them? you don't need a whole module - just the theme can change the clock look. Ok, but what about just showing a bigger clock on mouse/finger-over? :P Something like the OSX dock (or itask-ng :P). No animation is needed, but the analog clock size should be improved for embedded devices (I'd prefer using an analog clock if it is well visible)... Been playing with the illume edje file ... not what you have asked for but a usable clock. http://wdk.dyndns.org/freerunner/illume.edj mv your existing /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/illume.edj somewhere safe and replace with the above and reboot. I have fiddled with a few other things, but if someone wants an original with just the clock, let me know. I have not deleted the existing clock, just added the asu textual one in as well. If its useful to people I can clean it up properly ... BillK -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Andreas Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I added another column to indicate echo problems - I think it would be good to get info on both of these issues. With regard to buzz, do you think it is necessary to differentiate between no buzz at all, always buzz, and buzz only with headset? My understanding was that using a headset also has an influence. Have also added WSOD - the page may need to be renamed and linked from other pages Regards, Andreas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery
Bad move, guys. If the customer says the goods haven't arrived, you have to take it on the chin send a replacement, unless you can prove otherwise. ankostis' words i had personally instructed you suggest to me that he may be a demanding unwelcome customer - if I were writing I would advise you to choose a service with tracking capabilities - but that does not justify accusing him of bad mouthing you. Your mother brought you up better than for you to make such a response!! Customer service requires you often to exceed expectations. I know, because I've had to swallow the expense myself of hardware lost by the post office. He's a customer and he's entitled to bad mouth you, as long as he states the facts. I just don't get it: 1) you send out a phone with a duff battery. Not your fault. 2) you send out a replacement battery which gets lost in the post. Not your fault. 3) you send out a second replacement battery. Why the heck did you choose not to send it Special Delivery this time?? It was behove upon you to do so - hang the cost - in order to demonstrate your exemplary customer service. You failed. If I were in your position now - which I would not be!! I should be shamed to admit that I have failed customers on more than one occasion, but never over something as straight-forward as taking a jiffy bag to the post office - I would now be thinking I need to pay Fed Ex or someone £80 or more to get a battery to Greece within 24 or 48 hours. Stroller. On 10 Dec 2008, at 15:20, ankostis wrote: ... 2) Since you claimed to have sent me already 1 battery and got lost, and after i had personally instructed you to choose a service with tracking capabilities from my country's postal-service, why did you choose to ignore that mail? [3] ... On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Customer Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kostis It is a real shame that you consider bad mouthing us in public is good practice. We have sent you 2 batteries that have not arrived entirely at our cost, you claim you have not received them but we have no way to verify that is the case. We cannot send batteries with tracking numbers as that increases the cost 3 fold, we have done everything we can to rectify your problem, we cannot be held responsible for courier/postal services in your country. We get complains from customers who ask why we send packages that must be signed for! Whatever we do as a company we cannot make everyone happy, people have different opinions of what should be done. What I will say is that we have many happy customers and your bad mouthing of us in public when we have tried to resolve your problem is not acceptable and you can take it from us now that we will no longer do business with you as an individual because of that. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone
On 10 Dec 2008, at 16:01, arne anka wrote: ... android g1 ... i don't want to support any effort in that way. +1 Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
missing eth0
hello list, i purchased a neo freerunner and flashed it successfully with Om2008.9-gta02-20081106.uImage.bin Om2008.9-gta02-20081117.rootfs.jffs2 my problem is that the eth0 device (interface) is not present on the system: # ls /sys/class/net/ /sys/class/net/lo//sys/class/net/usb0/ therefore i am unable bring up the eth0 interface i.e: # /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up ifconfig: SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device on my friends device with the same system and kernel the eth0 interface is brought up and we can see it in /sys/class/net/eth0/ and also it can be brought up with the ifconfig command. any help would be appreciated peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: missing eth0
Have you tried after rebooting once again. Not all modules are loaded on first boot. Rakshat PS - support list! On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 6:56 PM, peter boehm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello list, i purchased a neo freerunner and flashed it successfully with Om2008.9-gta02-20081106.uImage.bin Om2008.9-gta02-20081117.rootfs.jffs2 my problem is that the eth0 device (interface) is not present on the system: # ls /sys/class/net/ /sys/class/net/lo//sys/class/net/usb0/ therefore i am unable bring up the eth0 interface i.e: # /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up ifconfig: SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device on my friends device with the same system and kernel the eth0 interface is brought up and we can see it in /sys/class/net/eth0/ and also it can be brought up with the ifconfig command. any help would be appreciated peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone
arne anka wrote: om provides and develops only one distribution! if there are more than this one it is done by community effort -- people who bought the freerunner exactly because the _could_ do that. i for one don't see any sense in helping google to do their homework -- and control people even more. the facts known about google's remote control of the android g1 (privately owned devoces, mind you!) are absolutely horrible, and i don't want to support any effort in that way. +1 from me too. Don't use Big Evil Google ! -- Swisslinux.org − Le carrefour GNU/Linux en Suisse − http://www.swisslinux.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery
If I were in your position now - which I would not be!! I should be shamed to admit that I have failed customers on more than one occasion, but never over something as straight-forward as taking a jiffy bag to the post office - I would now be thinking I need to pay Fed Ex or someone £80 or more to get a battery to Greece within 24 or 48 hours. Stroller. Or if you feel shipping batteries to Greece is unreliable/ not possible offer the customer a 10-15% discount on their next purchase from your store. Maybe something like that can be worked out even now and everyone can be happy. Rakshat PS - in my market customers are encouraged via government campaigns to publicly air their grievances if there is no response from the seller so I dont find it odd if a problem/issue has been made public. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone
Didier Raboud wrote: arne anka wrote: the facts known about google's remote control of the android g1 (privately owned devoces, mind you!) are absolutely horrible, and i don't want to support any effort in that way. +1 from me too. Don't use Big Evil Google ! I don't want them having my data, it's true, I don't use their services (other than search) because I don't believe in giving control to third parties. However, in this case, they have provided an open source mobile phone operating environment that is responsive, pretty and provides a hardware agnostic application environment. With a little bit of market penetration (and there are already many vendors looking with phones in the works) a software community far wider than a single device could spring up. And with it being OSS I can make sure the version I run is not subject to any google control. I agree that google are currently in a moral grey area, (and outright wrong about controlling people's phones) but I don't think android should be dismissed for this. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Android--Converting-a-brick-into-a-phone-tp1638865p1643164.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
missing eth0
yes i already rebooted several times with no success. peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Proposal for new mailing list was: Re: Get rid of the Buzz Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone
On 10 Dec 2008, at 19:22, Michel wrote: ... You just state what I already stated, that there is an unofficial fix but not an official one, so I have been reading the archives. I say in my e-mail Yes there are several soldering hacks around, but not one is official. And I know that OM will come with a warranty statement only when the fix becomes official. I would just like that the optimization team (or the resources provided to them) get focused towards getting the FreeRunner to do what it should do from the moment it leaves the factory, placing a normal phone call. It was my response to the whole distro/android discussion that the focus should be on getting a working phone part, the software already has proven itself on that front, now it's time for the hardware. I propose a new mailing list for this kinds of discussion: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: top bar clock in testing
Hi Bill, I get an Forbidden You don't have permission to access /freerunner/illume.edj on this server. If i try to download the edje file. Kind regards, Ed(je) Apache Server at wdk.dyndns.org Port 80 On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 22:10 +0900, William Kenworthy wrote: On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 20:16 +0100, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 02:11:21 +0300 Vadim, Efimov [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 00:21:35 +0300, ivvmm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another vote for this. The analog clock is rather useless. enlightenment have extra module - tclock,( many useful modules ) SNIP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Notes about the current testing image
Yeah, you are correct! Thanks, Samuel If you read the email you attached below ... bug #1767 BillK On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 12:04 +, Samuel Pereira wrote: Hello John, I try yesterday image, and the boot speed is really fast, its great! I flash the neo, change /etc/enlightment/default for illume! And when i try to change config illume, desktops, fonts, theme, the qpe crash, and i cannot change it! This is a detected bug? Thanks for your work, Samuel Dear community, Here is the note I kept about the current testing image. Part of it was already in the status update I sent before. I modified a bit to match the current situation and put it here so it could be archived. Please remember that since it's not in stable repo, it is a subject to change. What I wrote here only applies to the testing image for the last couple days. Upgrade from Om2008.9 - Note: you can also flash new image in http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing Note: only upgrade from a clean Om2008.9 image is tested. sed -i -e 's%Om2008.8%testing%' /etc/opkg/*.conf /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop screen -DR opkg update opkg -force-overwrite upgrade # please ans Y to all questions # the sshd (dropbear) will restart, so you need to reconnect and do # 'screen -DR' again opkg upgrade # just in case shutdown -r now To get the fastest boot time you also need to remove the following packages: opkg remove task-base-nfs task-base-smbfs task-base-bluetooth \ task-base-usbgadget avahi-daemon avahi-autoipd blueprobe \ usb-gadget-mode portmap exquisite exquisite-theme-freerunner \ exquisite-themes Known problems about upgrade * Dropbear restart during opkg upgrade * some obsolete packages (like kernel modules) still left in system * will purge your incompatible e config, so you might need to set stuffs like suspend time again. Known issues * usb network won't work at first boot if you flash new image (#2096) * Illume sigsegv (#1767) - make sure you use asu theme if you use software_16 engine. If you want to use illume theme, you must switch to 'software' engine via illume config (in the upper shelf) * must remove 'ro' in kernel boot parameter if you use sd boot. * Most of the http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8#Known_Issues are still there. Changes related to the dismissed optimization team -- #1267: echo AT%N patch applied, credit of Treviño #1489: qtopia volume bar #69: boot time scripts. Some qtopia modifications as well. #1347, #2113: userspace suspend/resume Touch screen driver enhancement: see http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-October/002822.html #2031: Scroll list enhancement. There are still many todo items left on my list and some items half done, but we didn't have enough time to finish them all. Sorry. Echo No definitive software solution yet. A way to improve it is: control.4 Speaker Playback Volume in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state the max value is 127, 95 works best on my neo. With volume level 3 or 4 in qtopia dialer, the other side can only hear a minor trace of echo while I get good audio quality. Regards, John ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone
arne anka wrote: om provides and develops only one distribution! if there are more than this one it is done by community effort -- people who bought the freerunner exactly because the _could_ do that. i for one don't see any sense in helping google to do their homework -- and control people even more. the facts known about google's remote control of the android g1 (privately owned devoces, mind you!) are absolutely horrible, and i don't want to support any effort in that way. +1 from me too. Don't use Big Evil Google ! Google is watching you Tysiace zabawnych wierszyk�w.Dodaj swoj Sprawdz http://link.interia.pl/f1fcd ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.testing (2008.9 upgraded) - Settings not running
By me it was the same problem. But with the update upgarde from yesterday all works fine again. So the problem should be solved. cu Beni btw: for the gta02 feeds i use the unstable-feeds. (armv4 all are testing-feeds) So i have the most up to date kernel. maybe a package in the gta02-feeds solve the problem? John Lee schrieb: Hi BillK, Your version of python-etk is correct so this doesn't seem to be related to upgrade. Can you try exposure.py -f run and paste the results just like in https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2088 ? - John On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 09:36:46PM +0900, William Kenworthy wrote: Unfortunately, this doesnt fix it - Ive added to the bug report. BillK On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 09:27 +0100, Gunnar AAstrand Grimnes wrote: The problem is probably broken python-ekt bindings, the upgrade path from 2008.08 to testing is (was?) broken. See https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2127 for a fix and more explanation. - Gunnar W.Kenworthy wrote: I am using 2008.testing (2008.9 upgraded) and the Settings app wont start - same if I run exposure.py in a terminal, and no debug is printed. A ps aux shows exposure running, but no window appears and the command line returns without printing anything. Is there a way to debug python apps and see where its going wrong? BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery
Am Thursday 11 December 2008 14:55:09 schrieb arne anka: ankostis' words i had personally instructed you suggest to me that he may be a demanding unwelcome customer - if I were writing I would advise you to choose a service with tracking capabilities well, it might be due to the fact that he is no native speaker -- i do not know modern greek, but i think it possible sentences like that might be completely ok in greek. and if not -- considering the alleged number of mail w/o response it might be justifiable. in my experience often a harsh remark provokes a reaction of otherwise thick-skinned and ignorant companies (telcos in particular) which do not respond to several polite mails ... I, being a german student, would also see no offence in instructing people, especially in this case where, as you said, some insistence is necessary to make the company react... --- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 3:55 PM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ankostis' words i had personally instructed you suggest to me that he may be a demanding unwelcome customer - if I were writing I would advise you to choose a service with tracking capabilities well, it might be due to the fact that he is no native speaker -- i do not know modern greek, but i think it possible sentences like that might be completely ok in greek. and if not -- considering the alleged number of mail w/o response it might be justifiable. That is exactly the case since i'm not a native speaker. My exact words were: ...but i would recommend that your postage-service does indeed provide for package-tracking... I have no revenging feelings towards a company that has helped Openmoko FR to spread, and it is my belief that nothing has happened that it cannot be undone! Kostis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
qwerty keyboard
Dear Group, I have Om2008.9-gta02-20081117.rootfs.jffs2 installed updated from the test repos and was trying to get a qwerty keyboard running. I did follow ' http://www.unixarea.de/openmoko.txt' paragraph 1 but can't see the keyboard yet! Any help? Thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, ankostis wrote: :as a last resort i'm reporting publicly my problems regarding a :broken-on-arrival battery from Truebox.com after i had ordered from :them OpenMoko's FR, on August 2008. You are lucky - my case is somewhat funnier - I've purchased the Neo FreeRunner and debug board from the True Box UK (order #200800435). The received package is missed stylus and SD card. After contacting TrueBox support service I've got sequentally 3 different answers : 1. The styluses are gifts from OpenMoko and probably OpenMoko stoped their delivery 2. Laser pens is illegal in my country (I'm living in Ukraine - they are legal) 3. They proposed to contact delivery company (UPS) and ask why there are missing things in package. The SD card I have to buy locally, this rare kind of stylus I can't. So I will never buy any thing from TrueBox, nor my friends. Rus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
removing the Sudoku package
Dear Group, how is it possible to completely remove the Sudoku application which comes by default with the distro? I don't want just to 'hide' the icon from the GUI! Thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: removing the Sudoku package
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#opkg list_installed | grep sudoku pyefl-sudoku - 0.0.2+svnr49-r1.01 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~9#opkg remove pyefl-sudoku (probably) 2008/12/11 Tony Berth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear Group, how is it possible to completely remove the Sudoku application which comes by default with the distro? I don't want just to 'hide' the icon from the GUI! Thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: top bar clock in testing
confirm -- the same effect On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, Ed Kapitein wrote: Hi Bill, I get an Forbidden You don't have permission to access /freerunner/illume.edj on this server. If i try to download the edje file. Kind regards, Ed(je) -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: removing the Sudoku package
Joseph Reeves ha scritto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#opkg list_installed | grep sudoku pyefl-sudoku - 0.0.2+svnr49-r1.01 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~9#opkg remove pyefl-sudoku no, don't work because depend of another package (i don't remember the name) i have use the installer gui (click in bottom installer) for uninstall ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: removing the Sudoku package
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~9#opkg remove -force-depends pyefl-sudoku ? 2008/12/11 Carlo Minucci [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Joseph Reeves ha scritto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#opkg list_installed | grep sudoku pyefl-sudoku - 0.0.2+svnr49-r1.01 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~9#opkg remove pyefl-sudoku no, don't work because depend of another package (i don't remember the name) i have use the installer gui (click in bottom installer) for uninstall ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ALSA
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 3:05 AM, Clemens Dörrhöfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks you all for the help I think I can go on from here. To restore the settings just reinstall the alsa state files using opkg. pymixer will only save the state if you ask it to and should only change the controls relevant to that state. If you find it has different behavior please send me a bug report. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: removing the Sudoku package
Joseph Reeves ha scritto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~9#opkg remove -force-depends pyefl-sudoku ? mh... maybe work i haven't tried... try :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery
Not to deny or minimize anything that others have said in this thread, but just to provide a balancing data point... I personally had excellent service from TrueBox. No problems, and always courteous emails. I hope they will quickly make amends in ankostis' case, and I also hope that they will stay in the business of supporting and distributing OpenMoko phones. Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
Hey Tony, One thing you my consider would be try install the 'illume-keyboards-terminal' (found here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate#How_to_install_the_illume_.28Raster.27s.29_keyboard_.3F). If you install the 'illume-config-illume' package, you will also be able to choose your default keyboard as well. This is what I've been using a lot and it comes with three keyboards you can flip between. An 'intelli-type' keyboard (which is alright for SMS') and a matching numbers/symbols keyboard and then a terminal keyboard which is a tiny keyboard to be typing any kind of terminal commands with, but it's still useful. Until we can get any significant change in using the accelerometers to automatically rotate the interface and give us a bigger keyboard, this is what's available. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: removing the Sudoku package
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 05:07:47PM +0100, Carlo Minucci wrote: Joseph Reeves ha scritto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#opkg list_installed | grep sudoku pyefl-sudoku - 0.0.2+svnr49-r1.01 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~9#opkg remove pyefl-sudoku no, don't work because depend of another package (i don't remember the name) i have use the installer gui (click in bottom installer) for uninstall Hi Joseph, If I recall correctly, task-openmoko-asu depends on pyefl-sudoku. you can force remove pyefl-sudoku on no risk. -Ju1ian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] How can I configure WLAN and Bluetooth on Android/Freerunner
이종국 wrote: Hi, I'm using Android/Freerunner built by following the instructions described in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android#Building_the_Koolu_Android_Source. That is, I'm using a system image from Koolu, and the kernel from andy-tracking. Everything looks good until now. However, I can't configure Wi-Fi and Bluetooth with it. I wanted to key in each password for Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. When I tried to configure them, the keyboard invoked by the menu button wasn't activated because the configuration windows (asking for passwords) were positioned at the top-most layer. How can I use the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth? Could you give me a hand? First, please don't cross-post this type of question to multiple lists, and it's best to prefix your subject line with [android] to make it easy for people to filter. You're right that Rui's keyboard doesn't yet work with modal dialogs in Android, like those the Settings app uses for Wi-Fi and Bluetooth configuration. One workaround is to install qad-keyboard.apk, available at http://code.google.com/p/netgents/downloads/list. With that keybaord you can compose your text, hit the OK button to copy it to the clipboard, then launch the dialog and use Android's long-press paste menu to paste it into the field. Having said all that, wi-fi doesn't seem to work with the current source. Scanning has never worked, and while with one of Sean's earlier builds if you entered your SSID into settings it would connect, that no longer seems to work. I've played with a bit and haven't come up with a solution. I don't have a bluetooth device to try with it. You can try the keyboard trick above and see how it works for you. Best wishes, Jim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: top bar clock in testing
2008/12/12 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au: http://wdk.dyndns.org/freerunner/illume.edj mv your existing /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/illume.edj somewhere safe and replace with the above and reboot. is an xserver restart enough, or does it need a full reboot? and is there a method for swapping themes without moving .edj files around, i.e. a config option somewhere? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: top bar clock in testing
Fixed. Forgot to chown/chmod after copying it to the webserver :( Sorry, BillK On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 15:03 +0100, Ed Kapitein wrote: Hi Bill, I get an Forbidden You don't have permission to access /freerunner/illume.edj on this server. If i try to download the edje file. Kind regards, Ed(je) Apache Server at wdk.dyndns.org Port 80 On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 22:10 +0900, William Kenworthy wrote: On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 20:16 +0100, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 02:11:21 +0300 Vadim, Efimov eva...@evadim.ru babbled: On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 00:21:35 +0300, ivvmm unachieva...@gmail.com wrote: Another vote for this. The analog clock is rather useless. enlightenment have extra module - tclock,( many useful modules ) SNIP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] How can I configure WLAN and Bluetooth on Android/Freerunner
You're right that Rui's keyboard doesn't yet work with modal dialogs in Android, like those the Settings app uses for Wi-Fi and Bluetooth configuration. One workaround is to install qad-keyboard.apk, available at http://code.google.com/p/netgents/downloads/list. With that keybaord you can compose your text, hit the OK button to copy it to the clipboard, then launch the dialog and use Android's long-press paste menu to paste it into the field. I am using notepad to write the desired text. Long press on the text then invokes menu with Copy all option. Text box on modal dialog has after long press Paste option. Having said all that, wi-fi doesn't seem to work with the current source. Works for me if i enter the ssid manualy. I am using the Qi to boot and kernel+rootfs from sean's download page. My wifi is not encrypted. Cheers Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: top bar clock in testing
Sorry ... fixed. Went to bed before properly checking its available :( BillK On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 11:06 -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: confirm -- the same effect On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, Ed Kapitein wrote: Hi Bill, I get an Forbidden You don't have permission to access /freerunner/illume.edj on this server. If i try to download the edje file. Kind regards, Ed(je) -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: top bar clock in testing
The themes are in set in /etc/enlightenment/default_profile The actual files are in /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/ You could try just renaming the edj? (I have not tried it) The spanner tool has a theme change, but it seems to require deleting the .e directory to work properly after changing to asu and back. I just restart the xserver - but eventually a reboot is needed as power drain (dont know where its going) gets rather large(and the FR hot). Mind you, building edje files and changing things around makes it work hard anyway. BillK On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 09:11 +1300, Robin Paulson wrote: 2008/12/12 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au: http://wdk.dyndns.org/freerunner/illume.edj mv your existing /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/illume.edj somewhere safe and replace with the above and reboot. is an xserver restart enough, or does it need a full reboot? and is there a method for swapping themes without moving .edj files around, i.e. a config option somewhere? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.testing (2008.9 upgraded) - Settings not running
Thanks John, I've also attached to bug 2127, as 2088 is closed. Had to kill the running exposure.py first. I tried the force-depends remove/re-install in bug 2088, as well as reinstalling all the ecore packages already installed without effect. ~#killall exposure.py ~#killall exposure.py killall: exposure.py: no process killed ~# ~#exposure.py -f run [Etk-Warning] (ecore_evas_x11.c:190 - _engine_init()): Ecore_X initialization failed! [Etk-Warning] (etk_engine.c:221 - etk_engine_load()): Etk can not initialize the requested engine! Segmentation fault ~# BillK On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 21:09 +0800, John Lee wrote: Hi BillK, Your version of python-etk is correct so this doesn't seem to be related to upgrade. Can you try exposure.py -f run and paste the results just like in https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2088 ? - John On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 09:36:46PM +0900, William Kenworthy wrote: Unfortunately, this doesnt fix it - Ive added to the bug report. BillK On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 09:27 +0100, Gunnar AAstrand Grimnes wrote: The problem is probably broken python-ekt bindings, the upgrade path from 2008.08 to testing is (was?) broken. See https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2127 for a fix and more explanation. - Gunnar W.Kenworthy wrote: I am using 2008.testing (2008.9 upgraded) and the Settings app wont start - same if I run exposure.py in a terminal, and no debug is printed. A ps aux shows exposure running, but no window appears and the command line returns without printing anything. Is there a way to debug python apps and see where its going wrong? BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
Will Siddall schrieb: Hey Tony, One thing you my consider would be try install the 'illume-keyboards-terminal' (found here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate#How_to_install_the_illume_.28Raster.27s.29_keyboard_.3F). If you install the 'illume-config-illume' package, you will also be able to choose your default keyboard as well. This is what I've been using a lot and it comes with three keyboards you can flip between. An 'intelli-type' keyboard (which is alright for SMS') and a matching numbers/symbols keyboard and then a terminal keyboard which is a tiny keyboard to be typing any kind of terminal commands with, but it's still useful. Until we can get any significant change in using the accelerometers to automatically rotate the interface and give us a bigger keyboard, this is what's available. I CAN'T GET RID OF THAT F*CKING QTOPIA KEYBOARD!!! followed the instructions, even tried to mess with qpe but after about 15 minutes is keeps coming back. how to disable this royal pain in the a**? i like my phone but without a rasters keyboard it's pretty useless. really i am in severe pain right now. as much as i like the testing image, this is f*cked up sh*t. sorry about the abusive language, but i'm thinking about throwing my neo against the wall as last resort to that evil black monster which is claimed to be a keyboard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
Bernd Prünster wrote: I CAN'T GET RID OF THAT F*CKING QTOPIA KEYBOARD!!! followed the instructions, even tried to mess with qpe but after about 15 minutes is keeps coming back. how to disable this royal pain in the a**? i like my phone but without a rasters keyboard it's pretty useless. really i am in severe pain right now. as much as i like the testing image, this is f*cked up sh*t. sorry about the abusive language, but i'm thinking about throwing my neo against the wall as last resort to that evil black monster which is claimed to be a keyboard Chill out and flash something with a normal keyboard, like SHR. -- W naszym konkursie SAM wybierasz sobie nagrode! Sprawdz http://link.interia.pl/f1fcc ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
Try installing vnc, much better if you don't need the keyboard function out in the wild: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Host_OS_Tips#VNC A. On Fri, 12 Dec 2008, Bernd Prünster wrote: Will Siddall schrieb: Hey Tony, One thing you my consider would be try install the 'illume-keyboards-terminal' (found here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate#How_to_install_the_illume_.28Raster.27s.29_keyboard_.3F). If you install the 'illume-config-illume' package, you will also be able to choose your default keyboard as well. This is what I've been using a lot and it comes with three keyboards you can flip between. An 'intelli-type' keyboard (which is alright for SMS') and a matching numbers/symbols keyboard and then a terminal keyboard which is a tiny keyboard to be typing any kind of terminal commands with, but it's still useful. Until we can get any significant change in using the accelerometers to automatically rotate the interface and give us a bigger keyboard, this is what's available. I CAN'T GET RID OF THAT F*CKING QTOPIA KEYBOARD!!! followed the instructions, even tried to mess with qpe but after about 15 minutes is keeps coming back. how to disable this royal pain in the a**? i like my phone but without a rasters keyboard it's pretty useless. really i am in severe pain right now. as much as i like the testing image, this is f*cked up sh*t. sorry about the abusive language, but i'm thinking about throwing my neo against the wall as last resort to that evil black monster which is claimed to be a keyboard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
Micha? Brzozowski schrieb: Bernd Prünster wrote: I CAN'T GET RID OF THAT F*CKING QTOPIA KEYBOARD!!! followed the instructions, even tried to mess with qpe but after about 15 minutes is keeps coming back. how to disable this royal pain in the a**? i like my phone but without a rasters keyboard it's pretty useless. really i am in severe pain right now. as much as i like the testing image, this is f*cked up sh*t. sorry about the abusive language, but i'm thinking about throwing my neo against the wall as last resort to that evil black monster which is claimed to be a keyboard Chill out and flash something with a normal keyboard, like SHR. -- W naszym konkursie SAM wybierasz sobie nagrode! Sprawdz http://link.interia.pl/f1fcc that's the point, i like the new testing image (spent days configuring and customizing the official one, works flawlessly, but it is slow, that is why i switched to testing) shr is a great image, but the telephony applications aren't talking with each other. afaik they are currently working on this, so i wanted something that is fast and turns my fr into a fully featured phone... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ALSA
Angus Ainslie angus.ains...@gmail.com writes: pymixer will only save the state if you ask it to and should only change the controls relevant to that state. If you find it has different behavior please send me a bug report. Would it be possible to make pymixer take the path to alsa state files as an argument? Configuration stuff should not be written to /usr. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
Alexander Lehner schrieb: Try installing vnc, much better if you don't need the keyboard function out in the wild: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Host_OS_Tips#VNC A. i do need the keyboard function out in the wild ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
Change to the illume theme - instructions on the wiki To stop the other kb's from appearing unexpectedly: opkg list_installed|grep keyboard. Uninstall the numbers and default - leave only the terminal one. I cant be more specific as I have already done so! You will get an occasional flash as it tries to switch, but it comes back with the terminal. Downside is if you go back to asu, you dont have a keyboard - no great loss as with the standard keyboard its unusable anyway. This may be fixable, but I have not looked further. Billk On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 00:33 +0100, Bernd Prünster wrote: Will Siddall schrieb: Hey Tony, One thing you my consider would be try install the 'illume-keyboards-terminal' (found here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate#How_to_install_the_illume_.28Raster.27s.29_keyboard_.3F). If you install the 'illume-config-illume' package, you will also be able to choose your default keyboard as well. This is what I've been using a lot and it comes with three keyboards you can flip between. An 'intelli-type' keyboard (which is alright for SMS') and a matching numbers/symbols keyboard and then a terminal keyboard which is a tiny keyboard to be typing any kind of terminal commands with, but it's still useful. Until we can get any significant change in using the accelerometers to automatically rotate the interface and give us a bigger keyboard, this is what's available. I CAN'T GET RID OF THAT F*CKING QTOPIA KEYBOARD!!! followed the instructions, even tried to mess with qpe but after about 15 minutes is keeps coming back. how to disable this royal pain in the a**? i like my phone but without a rasters keyboard it's pretty useless. really i am in severe pain right now. as much as i like the testing image, this is f*cked up sh*t. sorry about the abusive language, but i'm thinking about throwing my neo against the wall as last resort to that evil black monster which is claimed to be a keyboard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
W.Kenworthy schrieb: Change to the illume theme - instructions on the wiki To stop the other kb's from appearing unexpectedly: opkg list_installed|grep keyboard. Uninstall the numbers and default - leave only the terminal one. I cant be more specific as I have already done so! You will get an occasional flash as it tries to switch, but it comes back with the terminal. Downside is if you go back to asu, you dont have a keyboard - no great loss as with the standard keyboard its unusable anyway. This may be fixable, but I have not looked further. Billk i ma not talkig about the different illume keyboards, i am talking about the QTOPIA keyboard (btw i know how the illume kbd works and tweaked the layout a little in my past image - it is not necessary to remove de default keyboard if you dont want to use it as default for messages, ect...) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 01:17 +0100, Bernd Prünster wrote: W.Kenworthy schrieb: Change to the illume theme - instructions on the wiki To stop the other kb's from appearing unexpectedly: opkg list_installed|grep keyboard. Uninstall the numbers and default - leave only the terminal one. I cant be more specific as I have already done so! You will get an occasional flash as it tries to switch, but it comes back with the terminal. Downside is if you go back to asu, you dont have a keyboard - no great loss as with the standard keyboard its unusable anyway. This may be fixable, but I have not looked further. Billk i ma not talkig about the different illume keyboards, i am talking about the QTOPIA keyboard (btw i know how the illume kbd works and tweaked the layout a little in my past image - it is not necessary to remove de default keyboard if you dont want to use it as default for messages, ect...) Sorry, missunderstood what you are trying to do. The only way I could stop the other keyboards from appearing at inopportune times was to remove them altogether. BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: current testing repos - endless upgrade?
Hi Tony, Tony Berth wrote: Dear Group, if I 'opkg upgrade' once, shouldn't do the same when I reboot and try to upgarde one more time? Why does opkg keep 'upgrading'? Probably because it's updating dropbear and you aren't using screen or nohup. Try 'nohup opkg install dropbear' first, then upgrade .. .then see if it keeps upgrading. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
Hi, Try this, Turn off built-in qtopia keyboard add export QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia The testing image dont have this disabled. Samuel W.Kenworthy schrieb: Change to the illume theme - instructions on the wiki To stop the other kb's from appearing unexpectedly: opkg list_installed|grep keyboard. Uninstall the numbers and default - leave only the terminal one. I cant be more specific as I have already done so! You will get an occasional flash as it tries to switch, but it comes back with the terminal. Downside is if you go back to asu, you dont have a keyboard - no great loss as with the standard keyboard its unusable anyway. This may be fixable, but I have not looked further. Billk i ma not talkig about the different illume keyboards, i am talking about the QTOPIA keyboard (btw i know how the illume kbd works and tweaked the layout a little in my past image - it is not necessary to remove de default keyboard if you dont want to use it as default for messages, ect...) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Proposal for new mailing list was: Re: Get rid of the Buzz Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone
Stroller wrote: On 10 Dec 2008, at 19:22, Michel wrote: ... You just state what I already stated, that there is an unofficial fix but not an official one, so I have been reading the archives. I say in my e-mail Yes there are several soldering hacks around, but not one is official. And I know that OM will come with a warranty statement only when the fix becomes official. I would just like that the optimization team (or the resources provided to them) get focused towards getting the FreeRunner to do what it should do from the moment it leaves the factory, placing a normal phone call. It was my response to the whole distro/android discussion that the focus should be on getting a working phone part, the software already has proven itself on that front, now it's time for the hardware. I propose a new mailing list for this kinds of discussion: whin...@lists.openmoko.org Hehe ... that's the /dev/null one right ;) Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL
If guys raise there hand to help others out I'll come up with a program to help them out/ reward them. If you are willing to raise your hand, drop me a mail. st...@openmoko.com Sargun Dhillon wrote: Very cool. Now, all the hardware hackers out there who want to make a buck to fix our Free runners, raise your hands. On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com wrote: Probably best to send the requests directly to Joerg. Vasco Névoa wrote: I'd really like pictures with better focus and a little more light... especially the last one, which is very blurred! Citando Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com: Sorry, I pulled the old copy. See below SOP paper (draft3, 2008-12-10 19:00) placed here: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP__DRAFT3__.pdf Please have a look and report on any mistakes or things that need improvement. Thanks jOERG Neil Jerram wrote: 2008/12/10 Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com: The DRAFT fix for the buzz problem is here: CP of joerg's mail. http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP__DRAFT!!__.pdf I'm getting 404 for this URL. Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Global Domination 0.9
It's on the list of things to do rakshat hooja wrote: Is it will be possible to add an Openmoko logo to the look of the store page in the near future? I am going to send an email to all my friends who may be willing to spend $25 to support OM but not really buy the Freerunner. But the current page is very generic looking and does not connect with Openmoko at first glance. Rakshat On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 7:00 PM, rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Sean Moss-Pultz s...@openmoko.comwrote: rakshat hooja wrote: Is ir possible to have a T-Shirt with the Open CAD poster design. That would be cool. Here you go: http://www.cafepress.com/openmoko_inc.337325440 I put a few more colors up there, too. Let me know if you like this. -Sean Thanks. I am ordering one in black right now. Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: top bar clock in testing
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:11:15 +1300 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com babbled: 2008/12/12 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au: http://wdk.dyndns.org/freerunner/illume.edj mv your existing /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/illume.edj somewhere safe and replace with the above and reboot. is an xserver restart enough, or does it need a full reboot? and is there a method for swapping themes without moving .edj files around, i.e. a config option somewhere? e has a whole theme config dialog... but it's not very usable on the freerunner screen atm - that's on my list of things to fix. wallpaper and theme browser. (actually were even have a whole online theme browser built in that can browse themes on exchange.enlightenment.org and download them - used to be get-e.org -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: top bar clock in testing
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:10:54 +0900 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au babbled: On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 20:16 +0100, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 02:11:21 +0300 Vadim, Efimov eva...@evadim.ru babbled: On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 00:21:35 +0300, ivvmm unachieva...@gmail.com wrote: Another vote for this. The analog clock is rather useless. enlightenment have extra module - tclock,( many useful modules ) who can package them? you don't need a whole module - just the theme can change the clock look. Ok, but what about just showing a bigger clock on mouse/finger-over? :P Something like the OSX dock (or itask-ng :P). No animation is needed, but the analog clock size should be improved for embedded devices (I'd prefer using an analog clock if it is well visible)... Been playing with the illume edje file ... not what you have asked for but a usable clock. http://wdk.dyndns.org/freerunner/illume.edj mv your existing /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/illume.edj somewhere safe and replace with the above and reboot. I have fiddled with a few other things, but if someone wants an original with just the clock, let me know. I have not deleted the existing clock, just added the asu textual one in as well. If its useful to people I can clean it up properly ... instead of playing with system files from packages... you can just put your theme in ~/.e/e/themes/ and it will override the system theme of the same name :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: top bar clock in testing
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:49:47 +0900 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au babbled: The themes are in set in /etc/enlightenment/default_profile The actual files are in /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/ You could try just renaming the edj? (I have not tried it) The spanner tool has a theme change, but it seems to require deleting the .e directory to work properly after changing to asu and back. asu theme i think makes your config spanner non-functional that's why. :( btw - u can just restart e with: killall -HUP enlightenment (the good old HUP signal for restarting things works). I just restart the xserver - but eventually a reboot is needed as power drain (dont know where its going) gets rather large(and the FR hot). Mind you, building edje files and changing things around makes it work hard anyway. BillK On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 09:11 +1300, Robin Paulson wrote: 2008/12/12 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au: http://wdk.dyndns.org/freerunner/illume.edj mv your existing /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes/illume.edj somewhere safe and replace with the above and reboot. is an xserver restart enough, or does it need a full reboot? and is there a method for swapping themes without moving .edj files around, i.e. a config option somewhere? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Funding Global Domination Mk II The Console
(My apologies if this is a duplicate, I used a different sender address and it seems to have been greylisted or blocked or something) Hey Stroller, Stroller wrote: On 10 Dec 2008, at 01:02, roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote: Stroller wrote: For me, personally, a fully open-source ADSL router would be more compelling. Whilst you can do just about anything you want with iptables, most of us need a separate ADSL box of some sort [1]. Given any arbitrary ADSL router I'm sure I could find something about it I don't quite like, for some certain obscure configuration. The Wanadoo Livebox has, for instance, a USB port, which would allow you to run a print server on it or BitTorrent to an external hard-drive (like the Asus WL-700gE). But you can't because it's bleedin' closed. Out of curiosity, what's the main benefit in having a hackable ADSL router? Outside of consolidating router and modem? Consolidating router modem is good enough for me. :) I don't want the extra box cluttering up my trendy designer apartment *cough*. ~1x4x2 is hardly taking up a lot of space. One unit, two units, the corner of my apartment wouldn't look discernably different either way. I've always bridged and considered an ADSL modem to be a transparent device whilst using OpenWRT on routers to perform all required networking and authentication. I've never done that - it'll be the approach I take when I go ADSL2 (hopefully soon), but wasn't the obvious way to do things when I got my last router (perhaps as much as 6 years ago, now). I have to say, I don't entirely trust a cheap ADSL modem used in this way. I kinda feel that it adds another level of potential confusion troubleshooting for me, as an administrator. There's a problem with incoming packets being dropped - is it in the modem or the router? And the ADSL router must, as things stand, be closed source. I certainly see this as flawed compared to having the one device doing the whole job. And from a hardware point of view you're doubling everything in having separate ethernet router ADSL modem - I put the last in quotes because all the external ethernet ADSL modems I've seen contain enough hardware to do routing, they just have a crippled firmware. I agree for the most part and I'd definitely be happy to see an ADSL modem that _is_ open. From experience, even the cheapest modems have performed almost flawlessy when bridged. What problems I've encountered have nearly always been telco related. I admit that access to the modem at a lower level may enable me to diagnose this properly or harvest more detailed statistics but as it stands, aliasing a static IP on the wan interface to allow me to ssh and map the web management interface port locally does all I need, including rebooting the modem and/or router. Another 'from experience', a lot of ADSL/wireless/router combo units have been prone to heat issues due to the number of heat generating components. Although strapping a fan to the top has fixed the problem, I've avoided them as much as possible since. This may not be as much of a concern now with current offerings. Now if Openmoko were to create an OpenWRT compatible router with stupid amounts of storage space, awesome wireless range, a screaming CPU ... I'm not an expert on home ethernet routers - from my naive point of view there's little very new about that. OK, well ... from the home router consumer perspective, there'd be little benefit. But when you're knocking up wirless hotspots and multi-site VPNs, obtaining a consistent unit from a supplier can be a pain. Currently units vary greatly betwen models and even minor revisions. It's not uncommon to have to break warranty on day one by flashing the firmware or replacing the wireless module with something more linux appropriate. Without building your own, this is unavoidable. ... currently consumer routers (I use the Asus WL-500GP and WL-500W) are less than optimal, but do the job. Out of curiosity, could you give me a quick run-down of their failings? Warranty for intended use is the main one. Storage space would be second, with CPU speed coming third. Ideally, hardware that is based more around supported linux drivers would be good. Storage space quickly runs low when the maximum out there tends to be 32MB. I have a habit of using things that require quite a few libraries. tcpdump, nmap, openvpn and various other facilities. If you expand on that with asterix, transparent proxying, qos, smb redirection, blah blah ... then an external drives becomes mandatory. With all that processing (specifically asterix), a faster CPU would be useful, the WRTs tend to handle 4 simultaneous calls OK. Currently I tend to stick with ASUS, the wl-500w with three antenna seems to deliver at this point. I still have to switch out the broadcom module for an athereos one however (2.6 kernel related more so), if I want to be able to do site
Re: case manufacturing
There are a few options. Tully can explain. rakshat hooja wrote: Does anyone know where one can get alternate case designs for the freerunner manufactured in quantities of less than 100. Any information would be appreciated. Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No more optimization team
Thanks david, One of the difficulties is CND. cannot duplicate which complicates finding the root cause. If you can generate logs that will probably help. Steve David Garabana Barro wrote: On Thursday 11 December 2008 02:23:14 Steve Mosher wrote: RE 1024. The optimization team was not working on 1024. there is one dedicated engineer working on 1024 who specializes in this area. There is some understanding but not certainty on the root cause which may be related to the base station rather than the phone. I don't intend to distract the engineer assigned this task by asking him is it done yet? But I do want to assure folks that there is a dedicated smart as heck person on the problem. More later. Good news, then If you need some type of help on debugging (e.g. trying possible solutions and/or generating logs) count on me. I suffer this bug even with patch applied. It only works for me if I force calypso to *never* deep sleep. Thank you very much!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
2008/12/12 rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com: Thanks. will update when I get pricing. My design is still at the idea stage - add a USB keyboard (qwerty) into the case design itself. Will make it heavier but helps my use case as I want to stop carrying my laptop with me when I have the Freerunner and the onscreen kb (illume), though good, is slightly small when typing out documents. (Guess I am looking for a Blackberry equvalent) excellent - i'd be interested in one of those if you're building more than one. are you designing the thing collaboratively, or on your own? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Converting a brick into a phone
The Buzz is introduced into the Neo mic. ( Rf enters the mixer, and you will see a ripple on the DC coming out to the mic) consequently the far end of the call may hear a buzz. There are two potential fixes: The rework Joerg is drafting ( adding a CAP) smooths the ripple and theoretically attenuates the buzz. I think you may see some loss in mic sensitivity so a minor adjustment to the mic sensitivity ( via ALSA states) may be in order. Another fix would be to address the root cause and prevent the RF from entering the mixer. This change is more substantial and requires a layout change. It would involve adding some beads, changing the mic, and minor mechanical changes to the case. My preferred path is to test out the simple fix detailed in Joergs document as that fix can easily be applied ( the theory goes) to devices in the field. Vasco Névoa wrote: I'm kinda confused here... is this buzz issue the one where the caller (not the neo) hears the GSM buzzing? The one that has a SOP repair paper with the Big C?... or is it something else? Citando Michel mic...@xternal.nl: Steve Mosher wrote: Hi Steve, A list on the wiki of all severe problems and the end user details would be great, especially for future reference. Some of the problems, like Buzz, 1024 (recamp) seem to happen to some people and not others. I never had the buzz problem, go figure. I've created the page. 1. problems: WSOD, recamp, Buzz, echo ( insert gripe) 2. End user data: a. email (optional) b. Date code on phone ( under battery) c. s/n d. p/n e carrier. f. 900Mhz or 850? g distro etc... The page links from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Hardware_Issues#Poor_Audio_Quality And you can find it here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Buzz_or_not Please ad fields if necessary anything else? It might be nice to know what band the phone is operating on ( 900/1800/1900) if that's possible. Tell me how I can find that info on the phone :) Steve Regards, Michel -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL
I'm going to talk to the guys at work tomorrow and show them the rework PDF - we are equipped to make this fix, could probably offer it inexpensively to those nearby (southeastern North Carolina) or those willing to ship. (among other things - like security systems and internet services - we repair handheld radios and wireless broadband networking gear, including replacing BGAs and more mundane SMD components) I'm betting we have the resistors on hand, would probably need to order a hundred or so of the caps. I'll post back here if the answer is positive. We're located in Hamlet NC, near Ft Bragg, but we're gearing up to offer repairs nationwide for specific wireless networking gear, so shipping and processing of customer repair items in/out is forthcoming anyway, this is just a different board with a much simpler fix to be performed, I'm just not sure they'll be interested in offering it as inexpensively as I'd like. j On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:29:32 -0800, Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com wrote: If guys raise there hand to help others out I'll come up with a program to help them out/ reward them. If you are willing to raise your hand, drop me a mail. st...@openmoko.com Sargun Dhillon wrote: Very cool. Now, all the hardware hackers out there who want to make a buck to fix our Free runners, raise your hands. On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com wrote: Probably best to send the requests directly to Joerg. Vasco Névoa wrote: I'd really like pictures with better focus and a little more light... especially the last one, which is very blurred! Citando Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com: Sorry, I pulled the old copy. See below SOP paper (draft3, 2008-12-10 19:00) placed here: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP__DRAFT3__.pdf Please have a look and report on any mistakes or things that need improvement. Thanks jOERG Neil Jerram wrote: 2008/12/10 Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com: The DRAFT fix for the buzz problem is here: CP of joerg's mail. http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP__DRAFT!!__.pdf I'm getting 404 for this URL. Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Joel Newkirk http://jthinks.com (blog) http://newkirk.us/om (FR stuff) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery
The standard package does not come with a stylus or a SD card. For the first few months of sales we shipped the laser stylus and the 512MB card as gifts or extras for single pack purchases. Subsequently we substituted a regular stylus as opposed to the Laser Stylus/pen/pointer and stopped shipping the 512MB cards as they are difficult to source. check the green label on the box exterior. It should have the proper box contents. Rus wrote: On Wed, 10 Dec 2008, ankostis wrote: :as a last resort i'm reporting publicly my problems regarding a :broken-on-arrival battery from Truebox.com after i had ordered from :them OpenMoko's FR, on August 2008. You are lucky - my case is somewhat funnier - I've purchased the Neo FreeRunner and debug board from the True Box UK (order #200800435). The received package is missed stylus and SD card. After contacting TrueBox support service I've got sequentally 3 different answers : 1. The styluses are gifts from OpenMoko and probably OpenMoko stoped their delivery 2. Laser pens is illegal in my country (I'm living in Ukraine - they are legal) 3. They proposed to contact delivery company (UPS) and ask why there are missing things in package. The SD card I have to buy locally, this rare kind of stylus I can't. So I will never buy any thing from TrueBox, nor my friends. Rus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ALSA
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Angus Ainslie angus.ains...@gmail.com writes: pymixer will only save the state if you ask it to and should only change the controls relevant to that state. If you find it has different behavior please send me a bug report. Would it be possible to make pymixer take the path to alsa state files as an argument? Configuration stuff should not be written to /usr. It could be changed but seeing as the current files are in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/ I'm not sure what the objective would be. pymixer doesn't do the state transitions it only changes the mixer values relevant to a state and then saves those for the system. Angus -- Angus Ainslie http://www.handheldshell.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ALSA
Angus Ainslie angus.ains...@gmail.com writes: It could be changed but seeing as the current files are in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/ I'm not sure what the objective would be. pymixer doesn't do the state transitions it only changes the mixer I keep them under /etc. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Switching the orientation of the screen
Robin Paulson wrote: 2008/12/11 DJDAS dj...@djdas.net: Sorry for being a little OT, but what do you mean with problems that are present when this is done from the commend-line, with xrandr? If you mean the mess after the rotation (strange lines/graphic that fixes after a refresh) I noticed this doesn't appear using the gestures rotation, anyone knows why? yes. how do you refresh, without restarting x server - could it be done in a .sh script? If you mean misalignment of the touchscreen calibration, I noticed (speaking about gestures rotation) that this appears only when the yes. i'm not using gestures, too unreliable for me. i've got 2 scripts, such as: xrandr -o 0 to get portrait, and similar for landscape. both produce the same problems, as does numptyphysics when it exits I've noticed that calibration is off if you xrandr twice in a row to the same orientation. Getting back to -o normal fixes things. -- Charles-Henri ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Problem with Kernel and WLAN
Hi everybody, i've sent my FR to repair / guarantee issue and recieved a new Freerunner recently. But unfortantly every Image i try on the new Phone has a Problem with WLAN. dmesg says the following (OM 2008.09-Image) [7.48] sdio_wlan 00:01: driver attached [7.48] sdio_wlan 00:01: SDIO device, IDs SD_0001 (active) [7.58] TIMEOUT [7.58] SDICON:0x0009 [7.58] SDIPRE:0x0001 [7.58] SDICmdArg: 0x04000500 [7.58] SDICmdCon: 0x0274 a lot of lines similar to the above 4, then: [7.58] Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address [7.585000] pgd = c0004000 [7.585000] [] *pgd= [7.59] Internal error: Oops: 817 [#1] PREEMPT [7.59] Modules linked in: [7.59] CPU: 0Not tainted (2.6.24 #1) [7.59] PC is at pnp_remove_card_device+0x34/0x68 [7.59] LR is at put_lock_stats+0x14/0x30 [7.59] pc : [c016a29c]lr : [c0065f10]psr: 4013 [7.59] sp : c7d6df28 ip : c7d6dec0 fp : c7d6df3c [7.59] r10: r9 : r8 : [7.59] r7 : r6 : c03bc358 r5 : c03ac2e0 r4 : c7d97050 [7.59] r3 : 00100100 r2 : r1 : r0 : c7d97240 [7.59] Flags: nZcv IRQs on FIQs on Mode SVC_32 ISA ARM Segment kernel [7.59] Control: c000717f Table: 374dc000 DAC: 0017 [7.59] Process SDIO Helper (pid: 293, stack limit = 0xc7d6c268) [7.59] Stack: (0xc7d6df28 to 0xc7d6e000) then stack and backtrace follows [7.59] Backtrace: [7.59] [c016a268] (pnp_remove_card_device+0x0/0x68) from [c01f3438] (OS_RemoveDevice+0x1c/0x68) [7.59] r5:c7d97000 r4:c7d97000 [7.59] [c01f341c] (OS_RemoveDevice+0x0/0x68) from [c01ef1f0] (ProbeForFunction+0x1dc/0x270) [7.59] r4:c03bc354 [7.59] [c01ef014] (ProbeForFunction+0x0/0x270) from [c01f2b4c] (DeviceAttach+0x114/0x130) [7.59] r6:0001 r5:c7d97000 r4:c03bb5f4 [7.59] [c01f2a38] (DeviceAttach+0x0/0x130) from [c01f2e90] (CardDetectHelperFunction+0x100/0x150) [7.59] r7: r6:c01f41f0 r5:c7d81114 r4:c7d81114 [7.59] [c01f2d90] (CardDetectHelperFunction+0x0/0x150) from [c01f420c] (HelperLaunch+0x1c/0x28) [7.59] r4:c7d81114 [7.59] [c01f41f0] (HelperLaunch+0x0/0x28) from [c005dbc4] (kthread+0x60/0x94) [7.59] r4:c7d6c000 [7.59] [c005db64] (kthread+0x0/0x94) from [c004b20c] (do_exit+0x0/0x6f4) [7.59] r6: r5: r4: [7.59] Code: e2840e1f e5901004 e59421f0 e59f3028 (e5812000) [7.595000] ---[ end trace 6d5fbb844a90d45c ]--- where's the problem? is the wlan-chip broken? Greetings Torsten ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
