Re: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Christoph Pulster openm...@pulster.dewrote: since i have not heard any other Moko-owner from Greece. I shipped around 5 units to Greece. We shipped with registeredinsured DHL airmail parcel. Unfortunately the local Greece post services does delivery of these shiments, which always is causing a lot of trouble and delays. So please dont blame it on Truebox, as I can see they offered you maximum of service. Christoph Openmoko Shop www.pulster.de Postal service in general is A PROBLEM! I have bad experience with the German, the French and the Dutch Post! Once (in Germany!) it took them 3 weeks to find the package (not an Openmoko one!). Finally I got it but ... what a trouble! Cheers Tony ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
QT Extended
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm having a couple of problems with QT Extended (the fixed version from http://other.lastnetwork.net/OpenMoko/): 1. The predictive keyboard. I deleted the dictionary file as suggested elsewhere to disable the predictive keyboard, but it still predicts words which are found in my address book, like people's names, which makes it even less useful because now it never ever suggests the word I'm trying to type! 2. The Messaging app - it's doing strange things, like sometimes it creates duplicates of messages, so I'll see 2 or 3 copies of the same SMS in my inbox. So I'll move all messages to trash and empty trash, then a couple of minutes later an SMS will arrive and it'll say '17 messages recieved' and I'll see many duplicates of old messages I just deleted in my inbox. Also it will only store about 130 messages - is this storing SMS messages on the SIM? can it be configured to store them in it's own database? 3. The clock - every time I reboot the device I need to set the clock, it seems to revert to GMT and not take my timezone into account, or something. I tried using the 'hwclock --systohc' command but got an error. 4. I'm told that the echo is back (which wasn't there with Trolltech's QT extended image, the one which didn't ring) Does anybody have any ideas on any of these things? apart from this and the fact that I can't run any of the cool software being produced for 2008.x, I like Qt Extended alot! I'd also like to know if anybody knows if there's a new version of QT Extended in the works - I've noticed Lorn Potter has been pretty quiet on these lists lately... Apologies if this has been asked / solved elsewhere - I had a bit of a look but couldn't find anything much... TIA, - -Dale -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD4DBQFJQiLYkcvySXv0+acRAvu3AKCB/K20pov0px664Gb8h09HrwK4aACXW2Qy dY74QK+If4ARtYXg9zYd1w== =RSJu -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QT Extended
Dale Maggee wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm having a couple of problems with QT Extended (the fixed version from http://other.lastnetwork.net/OpenMoko/): 1. The predictive keyboard. I deleted the dictionary file as suggested elsewhere to disable the predictive keyboard, but it still predicts words which are found in my address book, like people's names, which makes it even less useful because now it never ever suggests the word I'm trying to type! 2. The Messaging app - it's doing strange things, like sometimes it creates duplicates of messages, so I'll see 2 or 3 copies of the same SMS in my inbox. So I'll move all messages to trash and empty trash, then a couple of minutes later an SMS will arrive and it'll say '17 messages recieved' and I'll see many duplicates of old messages I just deleted in my inbox. Also it will only store about 130 messages - is this storing SMS messages on the SIM? can it be configured to store them in it's own database? 3. The clock - every time I reboot the device I need to set the clock, it seems to revert to GMT and not take my timezone into account, or something. I tried using the 'hwclock --systohc' command but got an error. 4. I'm told that the echo is back (which wasn't there with Trolltech's QT extended image, the one which didn't ring) Does anybody have any ideas on any of these things? apart from this and the fact that I can't run any of the cool software being produced for 2008.x, I like Qt Extended alot! I'd also like to know if anybody knows if there's a new version of QT Extended in the works - I've noticed Lorn Potter has been pretty quiet on these lists lately... Apologies if this has been asked / solved elsewhere - I had a bit of a look but couldn't find anything much... I am still here. Just been busy with other things. I will try to get a snapshot out before the solstice. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Qt Software, Nokia Pty Ltd ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
rakshat hooja ha scritto: ponoko.com http://ponoko.com would do it for you, or emachineshop.com http://emachineshop.com if you get some pricing, could you let us know -- even your desgin? i am still pondering the idea of a new casing ... Thanks. will update when I get pricing. My design is still at the idea stage - add a USB keyboard (qwerty) into the case design itself. Will make it heavier but helps my use case as I want to stop carrying my laptop with me when I have the Freerunner and the onscreen kb (illume), though good, is slightly small when typing out documents. (Guess I am looking for a Blackberry equvalent) Rakshat Great idea :) What about adding an HSDPA modem like Huawei's Internet keys (adding only the board, not the full external modem) connected via a bypass to the USB port (to achieve charging even in host mode)? This could be useful too as we could have a dual SIM phone ;) Bye :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
Samuel Pereira schrieb: Hi, Try this, Turn off built-in qtopia keyboard add export QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia The testing image dont have this disabled. Samuel was one of the first things i did... i don't know what happened, but now its gone (rebooted again, now when i choose no virtual keyboard in illume config, the qtopia keyboard is gone, don't aks me why, but now i'm happy) thx to everyone for the quick replies ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, Steve Mosher wrote: :The standard package does not come with a stylus or a SD card. : :For the first few months of sales we shipped the laser stylus and the :512MB card as gifts or extras for single pack purchases. : :Subsequently we substituted a regular stylus as opposed to the Laser :Stylus/pen/pointer and stopped shipping the 512MB cards as they are :difficult to source. : :check the green label on the box exterior. It should have the proper box :contents. : I've purchased single pack + debug board at beginning of september. On the green paper strip around the black box is clearly printed : Package includes: USB cable, stylus+laser pen, AC adapter, 1200mAh Li-ion rechargable battery. So when I visit http://openmoko.com/product-include.html - there was no mention at all that part of the listed package content is a gift ;) Anyway, it is very wise to ship mobile device with touchscreen without stylus, especially Neo, wich is not intented to operate without it. Or may be you have another Neo experience ? I was not impressed by missed package contents, but OpenMoko attention to my letter, in which I was asking help to clarify things - they didn't answer at all ;( Ok, let's close this silly thread and concentrate at developing ;) : : Rus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 rakshat hooja wrote: ponoko.com would do it for you, or emachineshop.com if you get some pricing, could you let us know -- even your desgin? i am still pondering the idea of a new casing ... Thanks. will update when I get pricing. My design is still at the idea stage - add a USB keyboard (qwerty) into the case design itself. Will make it heavier but helps my use case as I want to stop carrying my laptop with me when I have the Freerunner and the onscreen kb (illume), though good, is slightly small when typing out documents. (Guess I am looking for a Blackberry equvalent) Rakshat Hi, I've had this thought before as well - if you end up getting one be sure to let me know, because I'd love something like this! - -Dale -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJQjWfFbVnQRV3OEYRAtp7AKCL/Z0ZI/klSY5MZhvyco3Ab3FEgwCeJ5FJ CnvvU8nnQB3Mj7tt3btRt28= =zUcY -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QT Extended
I am still here. Just been busy with other things. I will try to get a snapshot out before the solstice. Sweet release it before the 22.12 My Report to the original QTExtended Image i'll shorten and mention only what was not working Bluetooth Email Call receiving and sending only with postpaid SIMs Report about mwesters kernel and the advanced image with Gtalk ringtone working: Call sending came always back to the device no matter what dialed and this is my major problem right now I tried pretty much all of the distros and QTExtended seems to me to be the most mature (even GPRS throu GUI) If someone can help me fix this problem i'll stick with QtExtended Fantastic kudos to all the devs Juergen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 7:42 AM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.comwrote: 2008/12/12 rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com: Thanks. will update when I get pricing. My design is still at the idea stage - add a USB keyboard (qwerty) into the case design itself. Will make it heavier but helps my use case as I want to stop carrying my laptop with me when I have the Freerunner and the onscreen kb (illume), though good, is slightly small when typing out documents. (Guess I am looking for a Blackberry equvalent) excellent - i'd be interested in one of those if you're building more than one. are you designing the thing collaboratively, or on your own? This is a personal project, so doing it on my own. I will post the design I have in mind by monday (will try and build a mock prototype). Rakshat PS - also wanted to clarify that I am not a trained engineer so don't expect something very professional. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QT Extended
Call sending came always back to the device no matter what dialed and this is my major problem right now Can you elaborate. Do you mean that you are unable to make outgoing calls with this image? Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: current testing repos - endless upgrade?
I used 'screen -DR' and went fine Thanks On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 1:49 AM, roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote: Hi Tony, Tony Berth wrote: Dear Group, if I 'opkg upgrade' once, shouldn't do the same when I reboot and try to upgarde one more time? Why does opkg keep 'upgrading'? Probably because it's updating dropbear and you aren't using screen or nohup. Try 'nohup opkg install dropbear' first, then upgrade .. .then see if it keeps upgrading. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Postal services (was Customer support from Truebox.com)
If the issue regarding Truebox is solved, please use another subject. On Fri, December 12, 2008 09:27, Tony Berth wrote: On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Christoph Pulster openm...@pulster.dewrote: since i have not heard any other Moko-owner from Greece. I shipped around 5 units to Greece. We shipped with registeredinsured DHL airmail parcel. Unfortunately the local Greece post services does delivery of these shiments, which always is causing a lot of trouble and delays. So please dont blame it on Truebox, as I can see they offered you maximum of service. Christoph Openmoko Shop www.pulster.de Postal service in general is A PROBLEM! I have bad experience with the German, the French and the Dutch Post! Once (in Germany!) it took them 3 weeks to find the package (not an Openmoko one!). Finally I got it but ... what a trouble! Cheers Tony ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
move User:Seanmcneil3 page content to other page
Dear All: Since this page is really popular, but it is not easy to find , http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 So , I create an new page , and move content into this : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android_on_Freerunnerother Then I also translate it into Chinese . http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android_on_Freerunner/zh_cn http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android_on_Freerunner/zh_tw Feel free to edit it. Regards. Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2008] USB events - scripts?
On Fri, December 12, 2008 12:35, Vasco Névoa wrote: Hi all. I want to run a script automatically every time the USB is plugged or unplugged. This is in the udev rules. See http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-November/thread.html#35417 for ideas concerning keybaords and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/289548 concerning networking. Where should I hook in the scripts? /etc/apm/?/... or somewhere else? I've looked into using the /etc/network/interfaces, but this doesn't work because usb0 does not get downed on unplug - so it is always up since booting... Thanks, Vasco. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QT Extended
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Juergen Schinker ba1...@homie.homelinux.net wrote: rakshat hooja wrote: Call sending came always back to the device no matter what dialed and this is my major problem right now Can you elaborate. Do you mean that you are unable to make outgoing calls with this image? yes that is exact my problem dial any number - it dials for 3 sec - call with dialed nr comes in and leaves a missed call (All forwards redirects or barring disabled!) Juergen Thanks. I was planning to move to this image from the stock Nokia QT Extended 4.2.2 (which works fine for me expect bluetooth and multiple sms problems) but will postphone till Lorn potter releases the netx build. Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QT Extended
rakshat hooja wrote: Call sending came always back to the device no matter what dialed and this is my major problem right now Can you elaborate. Do you mean that you are unable to make outgoing calls with this image? yes that is exact my problem dial any number - it dials for 3 sec - call with dialed nr comes in and leaves a missed call (All forwards redirects or barring disabled!) Juergen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OM2008] USB events - scripts?
Hi all. I want to run a script automatically every time the USB is plugged or unplugged. Where should I hook in the scripts? /etc/apm/?/... or somewhere else? I've looked into using the /etc/network/interfaces, but this doesn't work because usb0 does not get downed on unplug - so it is always up since booting... Thanks, Vasco. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: No more optimization team
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:11 AM, Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com wrote: Thanks david, One of the difficulties is CND. cannot duplicate which complicates finding the root cause. If you can generate logs that will probably help. Steve Perhaps say what should be run in the phone and what to do to generate the particular log you want and then I could do it too.. my phone after all can be relied upon to show its #1024.. thank you clare David Garabana Barro wrote: On Thursday 11 December 2008 02:23:14 Steve Mosher wrote: RE 1024. The optimization team was not working on 1024. there is one dedicated engineer working on 1024 who specializes in this area. There is some understanding but not certainty on the root cause which may be related to the base station rather than the phone. I don't intend to distract the engineer assigned this task by asking him is it done yet? But I do want to assure folks that there is a dedicated smart as heck person on the problem. More later. Good news, then If you need some type of help on debugging (e.g. trying possible solutions and/or generating logs) count on me. I suffer this bug even with patch applied. It only works for me if I force calypso to *never* deep sleep. Thank you very much!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] installation
Dear Group, tried to install debian, followed http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner, but when booted from the SD card I get an error cause it can't find uImage.bin! Any hint what could have been wrong? Thanks Tony ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] installation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hey tony, your first partition on the sd-card should be fat-formated. there must be a file called uImage.bin . if it's isn't the, the bootloader couldn't load the kernel! take the kernel for debian (don't know out of the head where it is, look in the script) and put it into your first sd-partition. then it's should work.. greets Tony Berth schrieb: Dear Group, tried to install debian, followed http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner, but when booted from the SD card I get an error cause it can't find uImage.bin! Any hint what could have been wrong? Thanks Tony -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community - -- Vinzenz Hersche Lehrling 2. Lehrjahr Puzzle ITC GmbH www.puzzle.ch Telefon +41 31 370 22 00 Direkt +41 31 370 22 04 Mobile +41 78 845 24 12 Fax +41 31 370 22 01 Puzzle ist Mitglied der Eclipse Foundation: http://www.puzzle.ch/eclipse/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklCZVwACgkQK9d7OHUJmA6yMwCZAUoVMHA2Hq7J/qyYTL2ynQuW IBoAoOCTiHLMx7dpakZnjeqj1Wl2KpgK =2FQq -END PGP SIGNATURE- begin:vcard fn:Vinzenz Hersche n:Hersche;Vinzenz email;internet:hers...@puzzle.ch tel;home:033 336 20 56 tel;cell:077 447 73 74 x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] installation
indeed in the first partition is a uImage.bin file, but doesn't boot! It claims that can't find that uImage.bin! When I do fdsk on the card, both partions are Linux formatted. I don't think that I have to hae the first one in FAT! Thanks On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Vinzenz Hersche hers...@puzzle.ch wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hey tony, your first partition on the sd-card should be fat-formated. there must be a file called uImage.bin . if it's isn't the, the bootloader couldn't load the kernel! take the kernel for debian (don't know out of the head where it is, look in the script) and put it into your first sd-partition. then it's should work.. greets Tony Berth schrieb: Dear Group, tried to install debian, followed http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner, but when booted from the SD card I get an error cause it can't find uImage.bin! Any hint what could have been wrong? Thanks Tony -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community - -- Vinzenz Hersche Lehrling 2. Lehrjahr Puzzle ITC GmbH www.puzzle.ch Telefon +41 31 370 22 00 Direkt +41 31 370 22 04 Mobile +41 78 845 24 12 Fax +41 31 370 22 01 Puzzle ist Mitglied der Eclipse Foundation: http://www.puzzle.ch/eclipse/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklCZVwACgkQK9d7OHUJmA6yMwCZAUoVMHA2Hq7J/qyYTL2ynQuW IBoAoOCTiHLMx7dpakZnjeqj1Wl2KpgK =2FQq -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] installation
the error I get is: unable to read from uImage.bin Wrong Image Format Thanks On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.comwrote: indeed in the first partition is a uImage.bin file, but doesn't boot! It claims that can't find that uImage.bin! When I do fdsk on the card, both partions are Linux formatted. I don't think that I have to hae the first one in FAT! Thanks On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Vinzenz Hersche hers...@puzzle.chwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hey tony, your first partition on the sd-card should be fat-formated. there must be a file called uImage.bin . if it's isn't the, the bootloader couldn't load the kernel! take the kernel for debian (don't know out of the head where it is, look in the script) and put it into your first sd-partition. then it's should work.. greets Tony Berth schrieb: Dear Group, tried to install debian, followed http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner, but when booted from the SD card I get an error cause it can't find uImage.bin! Any hint what could have been wrong? Thanks Tony -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community - -- Vinzenz Hersche Lehrling 2. Lehrjahr Puzzle ITC GmbH www.puzzle.ch Telefon +41 31 370 22 00 Direkt +41 31 370 22 04 Mobile +41 78 845 24 12 Fax +41 31 370 22 01 Puzzle ist Mitglied der Eclipse Foundation: http://www.puzzle.ch/eclipse/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklCZVwACgkQK9d7OHUJmA6yMwCZAUoVMHA2Hq7J/qyYTL2ynQuW IBoAoOCTiHLMx7dpakZnjeqj1Wl2KpgK =2FQq -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] installation
Vinzenz Hersche wrote: hey tony, your first partition on the sd-card should be fat-formated. Not if you update your NAND uboot to a recent (i.e sometime in the last four months or so) version. Then ext2 is fine. I've had mine running this way. More recent uboot's also have some better charging code and other fixes, it's probably worth flashing one if you're still on the factory-shipped version. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-debian--installation-tp1647676p1647789.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] installation
indeed in the first partition is a uImage.bin file, but doesn't boot! It claims that can't find that uImage.bin! When I do fdsk on the card, both partions are Linux formatted. I don't think that I have to hae the first one in FAT! with the default boot environment the first partition on sd has to be fat, the next ext2. this is somehow problematic, since otoh the debian kernel package does not support fat ... but the install script should have a target that replaces the default boot entry for booting from sd with a more recent allowing ext2/3 (not sure which) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] installation
Not if you update your NAND uboot to a recent (i.e sometime in the last four months or so) version. Then ext2 is fine. I've had mine running this way. More recent uboot's also have some better charging code and other fixes, it's probably worth flashing one if you're still on the factory-shipped version. that does not help with the boot environment, since it resides in an entirely different part of the flash. regardless how old uboot is -- as long as the boot environment specifies fat as fs for the first partition, he's in trouble. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] installation
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:55 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: Not if you update your NAND uboot to a recent (i.e sometime in the last four months or so) version. Then ext2 is fine. I've had mine running this way. More recent uboot's also have some better charging code and other fixes, it's probably worth flashing one if you're still on the factory-shipped version. that does not help with the boot environment, since it resides in an entirely different part of the flash. regardless how old uboot is -- as long as the boot environment specifies fat as fs for the first partition, he's in trouble. I have the latest gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin installed! So you say that I should use the SD_PART1_FS=vfat ./install.sh all option? Thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] installation
I have the latest gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin installed! So you say that I should use the SD_PART1_FS=vfat ./install.sh all option? no. what i am saying is, check in the wiki page you used the section Adjusting your uBoot environment ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Persistent Personal Names for Globally Connected Mobile Devices - was openmoko as a ipv6 router
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marc Manthey wrote: i want to use bonjour or avahi for my project BUT Avahi does not implement this functionallity yet, -- On Linux (at least on Debian), you need the mDNSResponder package provided by Apple on the Bonjour downloads page. Unfortunately, Avahi_doesn't_yet implement_all_of_the_API_functions_you will need !!! -- SO i have two choices, use apple OR implement it into avahi, but there is no interest from the avahi developer site so i am not sure what todo right now. Ok, this seems to be way beyond my expertise. So - I'm sorry, I can't help you decide this. and noone from nearly 2000 peoples on this list could give me a hint or idea what the more feasable way ? Persistent Personal Names for Globally Connected Mobile Devices http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/papers/uia:osdi06.pdf No idea about avahi at all and only looked into it when I read your email here. It does look interesting though. I've no time at the moment to look at it but I have started a project in work which uses JXTA, same same but different. There is a C Implementation of the protocols so I might be able to get it running on the FR. I'm as yet in the early stages and can't for the life of me see why I would compile it in though ;-) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJQnjGXlbjSJ5n4BARAjIDAJ93k1EmasOUrmA52qFrR16ymZULeQCeNnNm DCDVqVAZrScJ2ovTqlsfOcU= =f8Wn -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO] M4.1 issues (GPS, Suspend)
Hello ev'rybody. For a few days, I've been testing FSO M4.1, mostly because of my latest (and noisy) problems with QTE. Just to be safe, I kept QTE on the internal storage, and put FSO on the SD card. First of all, kudos to FSO Team : it's really starting to look and feel good. For now, only two things are preventing me to move for real : - It looks like the only way to go into suspend is to press the power button shortly. That's ok for me, but Illume's config is still stating suspend happens just after blanking, which itself occurs after 30s of idling. But since I prefer to chose when I suspend, I won't complain (it's just a little odd). What's worse is that sometimes, after a while, it gets unable to go to sleep. I can press the power button ten times, it still stays on. Only way I found for now is to reboot. Not pretty :/ - I'm not sure whether this one is a problem or not, and I'd like to be (sure, that is). I'm completely in love with the cli-framework command. I mean, this is exactly the reason why I hopped on the OpenMoko wagon. I can tweak, explore, experiment, and I like that. The problem is, GPS subsystem doesn't seem to work at all (either through Zhone, Tango or cli-framework). I launch cli, Request GPS resource (which took less than 10 secondes). And then, I can wait forever, I can't see a single satellite (through GetSatellites()). Not even a little one with a weak signal or anything. gpstime.GetTime() is still returning 0. Maybe it's just my lack of luck (I'd rather). Some time ago, I managed to get a fix both with QTE4.4 demo and another (Gtk based) GPS test app. Is this the normal behaviour of a GwaF (GPS without a Fix), or not? Thanks by advance :) -- Olivier ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] installation
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 3:07 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: I have the latest gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin installed! So you say that I should use the SD_PART1_FS=vfat ./install.sh all option? no. what i am saying is, check in the wiki page you used the section Adjusting your uBoot environment I did that and the way I understand it, I should be able to boot by selecting the SD card without having a FAT partition on it! Namely: Having a OM2008.9 jffs on FR, I did run 'install.sh all'. I did shutdown the device and when rebooted I choose the SD card to boot. That should do the trick! I think the wiki isn't very clear in that point. That was also the reason asking that question in the list! How other people did perform the debian installation? I shouldn't be the only one following that wiki! Thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] installation
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Re: [debian] installation
Tony Berth wrote: Having a OM2008.9 jffs on FR, I did run 'install.sh all'. I did shutdown the device and when rebooted I choose the SD card to boot. That should do the trick! No, no it won't, uyou need to follow the section below - Adjusting your uBoot environment Go back to the wiki and either run that OR use a fat filesystem for the install. You will need to do one or the other or it won't work. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-debian--installation-tp1647676p1648149.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)
Christoph Siegenthaler wrote: Totally agreed. I've got a phone with which I can't make phone calls without echo and buzzing even though the OM folks have been working on the basics for weeks/months now. Come on... Phone calls are the only basic functionality I can think of in a cell phone. It is a cell phone with gps. The gps part seems to work well enough. But of course the phone part ought to work too. :-/ Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] M4.1 issues (GPS, Suspend)
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Re: [debian] installation
arne anka wrote: How other people did perform the debian installation? I shouldn't be the only one following that wiki! maybe other people hadn't any problems? imho the booting issue is made clear pretty well just below the big brown frame in the Installation section. I followed the installation guide and it worked for me. The install script did its work for me just fine. With a FAT partition. Paul -- Nothing is so awesomely unfamiliar as the familiar that discloses itself at the end of a journey. -Cynthia Ozick http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2009 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
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Re: case manufacturing
would it be possible, this way, to find a possible way to remove the frame around the screen? In other words: could a new case be made that hasn't the frame around the screen? that would increase the usable surface my thoughts exactly ;-) any help from the hardware guys or those having the fr disassembled already? is the beveled border somehow necessary? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Crackly Calls and Battery Tips! A5/A6 rework. Corrected URL
Quick question for Steve/Jeorg: Would a 3528 package capacitor fit? And if so, would Tantalum be suitable instead of Ceramic? My guy here says he'd chose tantalum for filter use like this, and the cost difference is dramatic, though the size is larger than the ceramic shown in the pdf. (price diff: Ceramic around $2 each qty 100, tantalum around $0.25 each qty 100) The resistors are $0.02 each qty 100, so they're practically free. Ceramic: http://mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=t7T%252bw6J1MVWG%252bwA9gt9uDg%3d%3d Tantalum: http://mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=N31o%252bt096gsr1Po3ON6skg%3d%3d j On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:44:30 -0500, Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us wrote: I'm going to talk to the guys at work tomorrow and show them the rework PDF - we are equipped to make this fix, could probably offer it inexpensively to those nearby (southeastern North Carolina) or those willing to ship. (among other things - like security systems and internet services - we repair handheld radios and wireless broadband networking gear, including replacing BGAs and more mundane SMD components) I'm betting we have the resistors on hand, would probably need to order a hundred or so of the caps. I'll post back here if the answer is positive. We're located in Hamlet NC, near Ft Bragg, but we're gearing up to offer repairs nationwide for specific wireless networking gear, so shipping and processing of customer repair items in/out is forthcoming anyway, this is just a different board with a much simpler fix to be performed, I'm just not sure they'll be interested in offering it as inexpensively as I'd like. j On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:29:32 -0800, Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com wrote: If guys raise there hand to help others out I'll come up with a program to help them out/ reward them. If you are willing to raise your hand, drop me a mail. st...@openmoko.com Sargun Dhillon wrote: Very cool. Now, all the hardware hackers out there who want to make a buck to fix our Free runners, raise your hands. On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com wrote: Probably best to send the requests directly to Joerg. Vasco Névoa wrote: I'd really like pictures with better focus and a little more light... especially the last one, which is very blurred! Citando Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com: Sorry, I pulled the old copy. See below SOP paper (draft3, 2008-12-10 19:00) placed here: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP__DRAFT3__.pdf Please have a look and report on any mistakes or things that need improvement. Thanks jOERG Neil Jerram wrote: 2008/12/10 Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com: The DRAFT fix for the buzz problem is here: CP of joerg's mail. http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP__DRAFT!!__.pdf I'm getting 404 for this URL. Neil -- Joel Newkirk http://jthinks.com (blog) http://newkirk.us/om (FR stuff) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] installation
I recently tried to reinstall Debian with a FAT partition. I got errors indicating Debian (kernel?) couldn't be installed that way. (This didn't happen when I had originally installed some time ago.) Anyway, I tried again with ext2 on both partitions and got the recursive white-screen and reboot. Updating my NAND fixed that. Debian now works but I see a Python exception when running Zhone (seems to be a known problem). Just wanted to share :-) - aliasid On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 10:42 AM, Paul p...@nlpagan.net wrote: arne anka wrote: How other people did perform the debian installation? I shouldn't be the only one following that wiki! maybe other people hadn't any problems? imho the booting issue is made clear pretty well just below the big brown frame in the Installation section. I followed the installation guide and it worked for me. The install script did its work for me just fine. With a FAT partition. Paul -- Nothing is so awesomely unfamiliar as the familiar that discloses itself at the end of a journey. -Cynthia Ozick http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2009 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] M4.1 issues (GPS, Suspend)
This is the behavour I noticed; it seems that the GPS resets itself for some reason and then ogpsd/frameworkd can't talk to it any more because it is expecting UBX but is getting NMEA. There's a bug #265 against it but not been a lot of activity on that recently. Search the mailing list for GPS - it came up originally in a debian distro but with the same symptoms so it's most likely a frameworkd problem rather than FSO specific. On FSO M4 , on the GPS app in Zhone, you can get status info for each satellite by pressing the unlabled buttons on screen; even without a fix you should normally get a few with 'signal unusable' or 'downloading' or something other than 'searching' even if you are indoors (for certain values of indoors of course). On Friday 12 December 2008 14:53:53 Olivier Migeot wrote: For a few days, I've been testing FSO M4.1, mostly because of my snip problem is, GPS subsystem doesn't seem to work at all (either through Zhone, Tango or cli-framework). I launch cli, Request GPS resource (which took less than 10 secondes). And then, I can wait forever, I can't see a single satellite (through GetSatellites()). Not even a little one with a weak signal or anything. gpstime.GetTime() is still returning 0. Maybe it's just my lack of luck (I'd rather). Some time ago, I managed to get a fix both with QTE4.4 demo and another (Gtk based) GPS test app. Is this the normal behaviour of a GwaF (GPS without a Fix), or not? Thanks by advance :) -- Antony King - 01908 268 901 Systems Consultant SolutionTrax Technologies - http://www.solutiontrax.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
mxDateTime on Openmoko?
Has anyone had any joy installing Egenix mx base on openmoko?
Specifically I need mxDateTime, but I'm not having any luck getting
anything installed:
r...@om-gta02:~/egenix-mx-base-3.1.1# python setup.py install
running install
running build
running mx_autoconf
arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -DNDEBUG
-g -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -fPIC -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -I/usr/include
-c _configtest.c -o _configtest.o
arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No
such file or directory
failure.
removing: _configtest.c _configtest.o
arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -DNDEBUG
-g -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -fPIC -D_GNU_SOURCE=1
-I/usr/include/python2.5 -I/usr/include -c _configtest.c -o
_configtest.o
arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No
such file or directory
failure.
removing: _configtest.c _configtest.o
macros to define: [('BAD_STATIC_FORWARD', '1')]
macros to undefine: ['HAVE_STRPTIME']
running build_ext
building extension mx.DateTime.mxDateTime.mxDateTime (required)
building 'mx.DateTime.mxDateTime.mxDateTime' extension
arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -march=armv4t -mtune=arm920t -DNDEBUG
-g -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -fPIC -DUSE_FAST_GETCURRENTTIME
-DBAD_STATIC_FORWARD=1 -UHAVE_STRPTIME -Imx/DateTime/mxDateTime
-I/usr/include/python2.5 -I/usr/include -c
mx/DateTime/mxDateTime/mxDateTime.c -o
build/temp.linux-armv4tl-2.5_ucs2/mx-DateTime-mxDateTime-mxDateTime/mx/DateTime/mxDateTime/mxDateTime.o
arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1': execvp: No
such file or directory
error: command 'arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc' failed with exit status 1
r...@om-gta02:~/egenix-mx-base-3.1.1#
Any pointers etc would be gratefully received.
Thanks, Joseph
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Re: [debian] installation
I recently tried to reinstall Debian with a FAT partition. I got errors indicating Debian (kernel?) couldn't be installed that way. (This didn't happen when I had originally installed some time ago.) yes, that has been discussed a while ago: there's debian kernel package now and dpkg does not support creating links in fat. the first versions of the install.sh simply wgot the kernel file and copied it to fat, nowadays the deb is used. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2008] USB events - scripts?
In my work to bring sanity to basic networking I explored this. For 2008.x the solution I ended with was udev. Two files in my netfix tarball pertain to this: #/etc/udev/rules.d/usbnet subsystem==power_supply, RUN+=/etc/udev/scripts/usbnet.sh #/etc/udev/scripts/usbnet.sh #!/bin/sh # when USB is plugged/unplugged in device mode, udev triggers this script on power change # udevd does clearenv(). Export shell PATH to children. export PATH if [[ $(cat /sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-ohci/usb_mode) = device ]] then if [[ $(cat /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/chgmode) = play-only ]] then ifdown usb0 else ifup usb0 sleep 5 if [[ $(ping -c2 -q $(ip r | grep usb0 | grep default | cut -d' ' -f3) | grep loss | cut -d' ' -f4) = 0 ]] then ifdown usb0 fi fi fi The only problem with this approach so far is that on powerup it doesn't trigger, only on USB insertion after fully booted. j On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:48:41 -0800, Sargun Dhillon xbmodder+openm...@gmail.com wrote: You might even want to look at oeventsd, part of FSO ( freesmartphone.org ). URL: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Events.html;hb=HEAD On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 4:25 AM, Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: On Fri, December 12, 2008 12:35, Vasco Névoa wrote: Hi all. I want to run a script automatically every time the USB is plugged or unplugged. This is in the udev rules. See http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-November/thread.html#35417 for ideas concerning keybaords and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/289548 concerning networking. Where should I hook in the scripts? /etc/apm/?/... or somewhere else? I've looked into using the /etc/network/interfaces, but this doesn't work because usb0 does not get downed on unplug - so it is always up since booting... Thanks, Vasco. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Joel Newkirk http://jthinks.com (blog) http://newkirk.us/om (FR stuff) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: case manufacturing
arne anka wrote: would it be possible, this way, to find a possible way to remove the frame around the screen? In other words: could a new case be made that hasn't the frame around the screen? that would increase the usable surface my thoughts exactly ;-) any help from the hardware guys or those having the fr disassembled already? is the beveled border somehow necessary? Mh, When I removed the front cover to put in my homemade screen protector (a transparent foil for projections :P), I noticed that there's space for keeping the LCD on the surface of the cover. I'm I wrong? -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] installation
I haven't successfully got Debian to work on my FR, but i do have QTE4.4.2
working on a single ext2 partition, no fat partitions by editing my uboot
environment and adding this option:
setenv menu_9 Boot from microSD (ext2): setenv bootargs \${bootargs_base}
rootfstype=ext2 root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 rootdelay=5 \${mtdparts} ro\; mmcinit\;
ext2load mmc 1 0x3200 \${sd_image_name}\; bootm 0x3200
It could be modified slightly to work with 2 ext2 partitions, one for kernel,
rest for everything else.
see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_from_SD#Add_uboot_boot_entry for how
to add the boot menu entry.
Alternatively you can use the debian configure-uboot.sh script, and modify it
for ext2 instead of fat for the kernel partition if necessary.
see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner to find the configure-uboot.sh
-feywulf
--- On Fri, 12/12/08, Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com wrote:
From: Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com
Subject: Re: [debian] installation
To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org
Date: Friday, December 12, 2008, 8:00 AM
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 3:07 PM, arne anka
openm...@ginguppin.de wrote:
I have the latest gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin
installed!
So you say that I should use the SD_PART1_FS=vfat
./install.sh all
option?
no. what i am saying is, check in the wiki page you
used the section
Adjusting your uBoot environment
I did that and the way I understand it, I should be able to
boot by
selecting the SD card without having a FAT partition on it!
Namely:
Having a OM2008.9 jffs on FR, I did run 'install.sh
all'. I did shutdown the
device and when rebooted I choose the SD card to boot. That
should do the
trick!
I think the wiki isn't very clear in that point. That
was also the reason
asking that question in the list!
How other people did perform the debian installation? I
shouldn't be the
only one following that wiki!
Thanks
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Re: Sad Story
On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 04:13:51 +0800, Wolfgang Spraul wolfg...@openmoko.com wrote: bad management forces us to work on next- gen product to rip off community. Ah-ha!!! Burn him! Burn him! :) j PS - anybody else notice how far off-topic this thread has gone, while nevertheless fitting the subject line just as aptly as the OP's stolen FreeRunner? -- Joel Newkirk http://jthinks.com (blog) http://newkirk.us/om (FR stuff) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sad Story
Well, CRAP. I apologize to anyone confused by that post - I should have sent it to Support ML but had a senior moment... j On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:59:18 -0500, Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 04:13:51 +0800, Wolfgang Spraul wolfg...@openmoko.com wrote: bad management forces us to work on next- gen product to rip off community. Ah-ha!!! Burn him! Burn him! :) j PS - anybody else notice how far off-topic this thread has gone, while nevertheless fitting the subject line just as aptly as the OP's stolen FreeRunner? -- Joel Newkirk http://jthinks.com (blog) http://newkirk.us/om (FR stuff) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Joel Newkirk http://jthinks.com (blog) http://newkirk.us/om (FR stuff) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2008] USB events - scripts?
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:22:29 +0100, DJDAS dj...@djdas.net wrote: Joel Newkirk ha scritto: The only problem with this approach so far is that on powerup it doesn't trigger, only on USB insertion after fully booted. j Did you try forcing udev events triggering by using udev-trigger command? Bye! No. Where/how do I do that? I don't see a console command by that name, but that would fix one of the (to me at least) glaring deficiencies remaining in my networking fixes. j -- Joel Newkirk http://jthinks.com (blog) http://newkirk.us/om (FR stuff) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: mxDateTime on Openmoko?
Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com writes: Has anyone had any joy installing Egenix mx base on openmoko? Specifically I need mxDateTime, but I'm not having any luck getting anything installed: Not sure how much this helps with openmoko distro but with debian mxdatetime seems to install just fine on the phone: li...@ginger$ sudo apt-get install python-egenix-mxdatetime Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: libdrm2 Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. The following extra packages will be installed: python-egenix-mxtools Suggested packages: python-egenix-mxdatetime-dbg python-egenix-mxtools-dbg The following NEW packages will be installed: python-egenix-mxdatetime python-egenix-mxtools 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 1178kB of archives. After this operation, 2023kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y Get:1 http://ftp.fi.debian.org unstable/main python-egenix-mxtools 3.1.1-1 [512kB] Get:2 http://ftp.fi.debian.org unstable/main python-egenix-mxdatetime 3.1.1-1 [667kB] Fetched 1178kB in 3min47s (5177B/s) debconf: delaying package configuration, since apt-utils is not installed Selecting previously deselected package python-egenix-mxtools. (Reading database ... 36487 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking python-egenix-mxtools (from .../python-egenix-mxtools_3.1.1-1_armel.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package python-egenix-mxdatetime. Unpacking python-egenix-mxdatetime (from .../python-egenix-mxdatetime_3.1.1-1_armel.deb) ... Setting up python-egenix-mxtools (3.1.1-1) ... Setting up python-egenix-mxdatetime (3.1.1-1) ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] M4.1 issues (GPS, Suspend)
Hi, Andy Green a...@openmoko.com writes: | while, it gets unable to go to sleep. I can press the power button ten | times, it still stays on. Only way I found for now is to reboot. Not | pretty :/ This is a kernel issue I think, it should be gone in andy-tracking based kernels with Balaji's new regulator based PMU driver in. It seems to me it's not. I used stable for some time and seen the same issue. Now i switched to andy-tracking and it's just the same (though suspends now seems to be faster). The FSO issues several commands to the GSM modem prior to suspending, if they fail, it doesn't try to enter suspend. The suspend should work, it can be checked by echo mem /sys/power/state (though it will resume shortly and consume more energy than needed, because of the GSM). Also i'm always able to suspend again after restarting gsm0710muxd (by exiting Zhone, in example) or killing the whole frameworkd along with gsm0710muxd. But you are right, it's time to try the new kernel, as FSO works ok with it (minor modifications necessary, reported on fso trac). -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QT Extended
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lorn Potter wrote: Dale Maggee wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm having a couple of problems with QT Extended (the fixed version from http://other.lastnetwork.net/OpenMoko/): 1. The predictive keyboard. I deleted the dictionary file as suggested elsewhere to disable the predictive keyboard, but it still predicts words which are found in my address book, like people's names, which makes it even less useful because now it never ever suggests the word I'm trying to type! 2. The Messaging app - it's doing strange things, like sometimes it creates duplicates of messages, so I'll see 2 or 3 copies of the same SMS in my inbox. So I'll move all messages to trash and empty trash, then a couple of minutes later an SMS will arrive and it'll say '17 messages recieved' and I'll see many duplicates of old messages I just deleted in my inbox. Also it will only store about 130 messages - is this storing SMS messages on the SIM? can it be configured to store them in it's own database? 3. The clock - every time I reboot the device I need to set the clock, it seems to revert to GMT and not take my timezone into account, or something. I tried using the 'hwclock --systohc' command but got an error. 4. I'm told that the echo is back (which wasn't there with Trolltech's QT extended image, the one which didn't ring) Does anybody have any ideas on any of these things? apart from this and the fact that I can't run any of the cool software being produced for 2008.x, I like Qt Extended alot! I'd also like to know if anybody knows if there's a new version of QT Extended in the works - I've noticed Lorn Potter has been pretty quiet on these lists lately... Apologies if this has been asked / solved elsewhere - I had a bit of a look but couldn't find anything much... I am still here. Just been busy with other things. I will try to get a snapshot out before the solstice. Hi Lorn, thanks for your reply. I look forward to seeing it! :) - -Dale -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJQv2sFbVnQRV3OEYRAh4vAJ96rPOspesBRfEAvI628XM7oPWPOwCgiepq S+0LcfeQ+mgwek9gG0TCv5E= =cUNP -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FreeRunner Happiness
Hi, With all the recent talk about FR problems I think its a good time to share my recent good experiences. When the kernel with the WSOD fix went into testing I immediately installed a clean image on a 2Gb SD card. I changed the boot params to remove the ro, installed Raster's keyboard, I got rid of the default keyboard, switched to the illume theme, changed the engine to the software_x, and imported my contacts. I've been using it as a daily phone for a week now with no problems. No WSOD (Yay!), no recamping issues, only one caller mentioned echo (their end was loud, so I turned the vol down - sorted). Everything just worked. Sure, the UI seems a bit slow, and answering calls can take a bit of guessing as to when the audio paths are setup, but I'm really happy with it. I get about 60 hours before the battery icon starts to go red, which is not a huge amount, but easily enough to work with. Now I have a phone with a notepad, an ebook reader, a PDF reader, and a GPS. This means I can always take notes, refer to manuals and locate new sites. Since I work for a systems integration company this is great stuff - its like having a toolkit and reference set in my pocket. Oh yeah - it is also a phone :-) Have fun, Greg. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Happiness
With all the recent talk about FR problems I think its a good time to share my recent good experiences. seconded... Sure everybody's mileage varies. At the beginning, I thought I will be able to play with Freerunner more than I became capable to do due to time constraints. Since FR became my primary phone from the first day I bought it right after it appeared for sales, I had no chance but to keep it running. Since some time I switched to FDOM, then I upgraded it with daily testing, broke it, figured out what was the problem, switched to illume theme, found why it segfaults in many places (report on the list and in bugreport about those evil shadows), so I didn't have to switch to software_x (which is slower), installed russian keyboard, installed more gadgets of all kinds, and the beast is running nicely -- I do use it as a daily phone, I do make/receive calls, I do send/receive SMS but really rarely, I do use GPS from time to time, battery time has improved considerably so I charge it whenever I recall to do so. Unfortunately it still does lack some basic phone functionality (mailbox alters, stable alarm etc), but I bet they will come ;) Sure thing there are glitches, and many people have different experience, but so far I see steady growth of improvement/fixes/new projects/joy. Thus -- I am only thankful to openmoko team and all the developers/users who spend their precious private time making freerunner the only thus the best ( ;) ) open-sourced phone. Keep on good work -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QT Extended
Dale Maggee schrieb: [..] 2. The Messaging app - it's doing strange things, like sometimes it creates duplicates of messages, so I'll see 2 or 3 copies of the same SMS in my inbox. So I'll move all messages to trash and empty trash, then a couple of minutes later an SMS will arrive and it'll say '17 messages recieved' and I'll see many duplicates of old messages I just deleted in my inbox. Also it will only store about 130 messages - is this storing SMS messages on the SIM? can it be configured to store them in it's own database? The messages are stored in the Sim and in the sqlite-db. When i delete copies of my sms, these sms are not copied. The message '17' new messages habe arrived is caused when 17 messages are stored in the sim. when you delete the messages, next time there are just 1 or 2 messages. I guess, that on an arrived sms the messages is forgotten to be deleted from sim. Maybe that just 1 line of code may be the solution of the problem. But I don't know the code, so I can't give a 100% correct comment. This are just my expierences. [..] 4. I'm told that the echo is back (which wasn't there with Trolltech's QT extended image, the one which didn't ring) There is just no echo, because the volume set in QT extended ist quite low. with this volume I had no problem with any image. Does anybody have any ideas on any of these things? apart from this and the fact that I can't run any of the cool software being produced for 2008.x, I like Qt Extended alot! You can't run these apps because QT Extended has no support for GTK-Apps. Greetungs Bastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: mxDateTime on Openmoko?
Thanks, i can do the same on my ubuntu laptop, but i really want it to happen on an openmoko distribution. -original message- Subject: Re: mxDateTime on Openmoko? From: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Date: 12/12/2008 11:07 PM Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com writes: Has anyone had any joy installing Egenix mx base on openmoko? Specifically I need mxDateTime, but I'm not having any luck getting anything installed: Not sure how much this helps with openmoko distro but with debian mxdatetime seems to install just fine on the phone: li...@ginger$ sudo apt-get install python-egenix-mxdatetime Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: libdrm2 Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. The following extra packages will be installed: python-egenix-mxtools Suggested packages: python-egenix-mxdatetime-dbg python-egenix-mxtools-dbg The following NEW packages will be installed: python-egenix-mxdatetime python-egenix-mxtools 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 1178kB of archives. After this operation, 2023kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y Get:1 http://ftp.fi.debian.org unstable/main python-egenix-mxtools 3.1.1-1 [512kB] Get:2 http://ftp.fi.debian.org unstable/main python-egenix-mxdatetime 3.1.1-1 [667kB] Fetched 1178kB in 3min47s (5177B/s) debconf: delaying package configuration, since apt-utils is not installed Selecting previously deselected package python-egenix-mxtools. (Reading database ... 36487 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking python-egenix-mxtools (from .../python-egenix-mxtools_3.1.1-1_armel.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package python-egenix-mxdatetime. Unpacking python-egenix-mxdatetime (from .../python-egenix-mxdatetime_3.1.1-1_armel.deb) ... Setting up python-egenix-mxtools (3.1.1-1) ... Setting up python-egenix-mxdatetime (3.1.1-1) ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Qt Extended on FSO
Hi, I couldn't find too much on this, but does anyone know how well Qt Extended on FSO works? About as well as plain Qt Extended? I saw the image on mwester's site but have not had a chance to try it out. Also is that the best/most current image and where does the addressbook store my entries? It wouldn't happen to be /home/root/Applications/Qtopia/qtopia_db.sqlite ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner Happiness
ok, but its not all roses: If you switch to software_x, the gsm icon no longer shows signal the settings app no longer works (I think they are tied together) and I still miss/get delayed SMS messages when suspended (I can improve by removing the battery module, but thats a real pita as you cant tell at a glance what charge is left) but overall, a *LOT* better than 2008.9 BillK On Sat, 2008-12-13 at 11:47 +1100, Greg wrote: Hi, With all the recent talk about FR problems I think its a good time to share my recent good experiences. When the kernel with the WSOD fix went into testing I immediately installed a clean image on a 2Gb SD card. I changed the boot params to remove the ro, installed Raster's keyboard, I got rid of the default keyboard, switched to the illume theme, changed the engine to the software_x, and imported my contacts. I've been using it as a daily phone for a week now with no problems. No WSOD (Yay!), no recamping issues, only one caller mentioned echo (their end was loud, so I turned the vol down - sorted). Everything just worked. Sure, the UI seems a bit slow, and answering calls can take a bit of guessing as to when the audio paths are setup, but I'm really happy with it. I get about 60 hours before the battery icon starts to go red, which is not a huge amount, but easily enough to work with. Now I have a phone with a notepad, an ebook reader, a PDF reader, and a GPS. This means I can always take notes, refer to manuals and locate new sites. Since I work for a systems integration company this is great stuff - its like having a toolkit and reference set in my pocket. Oh yeah - it is also a phone :-) Have fun, Greg. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
