Re: Newer Navit [was: geocaching with tangoGPS on FR]
Dan Staley a écrit : Where could we find this new package? Is it the one linked to on the wiki? I'd like to try it out on my debian install. -Dan Staley Ah, sorry, i forgot the link. http://download.navit-project.org/navit/ You will find there nightly builds for every kind of supported platforms. BTW, the build from this night contains a new feature: background search. Might be a bit buggy, feedback wanted! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 09:30:21 +0300 Vadim, Efimov eva...@evadim.ru wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 23:54:03 +0300, Atilla Filiz atilla.fi...@gmail.com wrote: For some reason, that wiki does not work for me. I start with an 'opkg update' and give all the commands in the wiki, after X restart, nothing happens. No QWERTY button, no wrench icon, no keyboard choice. Am I the only one going insane? you switch profile from ASU to illume in /etc/enlightenment/default_profile ? qwerty button present only in illume theme by default. I've been wondering about that. As I understand, the only way I can have rasterman's or any other illume keyboard in testing right now, is to switch to that horrible grey theme. Am I correct? Before we could use the keyboard with the black theme, would anyone be willing to explain what has happened with that possibility and if there's any hope of getting it to work any time soon. Yogiz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO unstable] - qtopia-x11 not installable
On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:15:16 +0100 Linus Gasser ine...@markas-al-nour.org wrote: Hi list, after having made the round of all distributions (I'm another one who has a Freerunner gathering dust), I thought I'd try the unstable FSO, just for the sake of it. Well, there is no graphic at first, so ssh into it, adding /etc/opkg/unstable.conf with rc/gz unstable-all http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/all src/gz unstable-arm http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t src/gz unstable-neo http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/neo1973 src/gz unstable-gta02 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/om-gta02 opkg update opkg upgrade opkg install qtopia-x11 And it spits out an error that it can't find libxi6... Obviously, as it's not in the repository! How do I get that library? It's in testing, but not in unstable - why? What did I miss? Thanks in advance for any hint, Linus PS: now trying testing... Hmm, if there's no GUI then I figure you installed the console image. There are three out there if I recall correctly. Yogiz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Reliable application for accelerometers?
Hi everyone. I'd need to be able to record accelerometers values and graph them later. The measure should last around 30 minutes. Can anyone recommend an application for that? Thanks in advance. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 12:32:29 +0300, Yogiz yog...@gmail.com wrote: I've been wondering about that. As I understand, the only way I can have rasterman's or any other illume keyboard in testing right now, is to switch to that horrible grey theme. Am I correct? Before we could use the keyboard with the black theme, would anyone be willing to explain what has happened with that possibility and if there's any hope of getting it to work any time soon. Yogiz no, Raster's keyboard work in ASU too, but ASU profile just don'have qwerty button. You need edit ASU theme or get already edited theme, from FDOM from example. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Toggle ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: kismet on freerunner
On Wed, November 26, 2008 2:26 pm, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: snip FATAL: Failed to set monitor mode: Invalid argument. This usually means your drivers either do not support monitor mode, or use a different mechanism for getting to it. Make sure you have a version of your drivers that support monitor mode, and consult the troubleshooting section of the README. snip Nowadays wifi drivers doesn't support monitor mode, the only way to use freerunner as kismet scaner is attaching an usb wifi dongle. Why don't the drivers support monitor mode? Would it be possible to add it to this driver? To me it's not preferable to add an extra wifi dongle when the device has wifi itself. -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400 Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
Switching profile put the qwerty button there but the keyboard was still the predictive one, without any switch buttons. Also the theme frequently crashes the X server so i switched back to ASU On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Vadim, Efimov eva...@evadim.ru wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 23:54:03 +0300, Atilla Filiz atilla.fi...@gmail.com wrote: For some reason, that wiki does not work for me. I start with an 'opkg update' and give all the commands in the wiki, after X restart, nothing happens. No QWERTY button, no wrench icon, no keyboard choice. Am I the only one going insane? you switch profile from ASU to illume in /etc/enlightenment/default_profile ? qwerty button present only in illume theme by default. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reliable application for accelerometers?
KaZeR wrote: Hi everyone. I'd need to be able to record accelerometers values and graph them later. The measure should last around 30 minutes. Can anyone recommend an application for that? Thanks in advance. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community the only thing you need to do is to pipe /dev/input/event2 or /dev/input/event3 into a file. The analysis of the data can be done later. You will get a lot of data though after 30 minutes. This is a python script reading and evaluating the data. Its not mine. I think I got it from the wiki somewhere. Do a hexdump /dev/input/event3 to get an impression how much data we are talking about first. #!/usr/bin/python import struct from math import sqrt x = 0 y = 0 z = 0 secondsensorfile = /dev/input/event2 #int, int, short, short, int fmt = 'iihhi' #open file in binary mode in_file = open(secondsensorfile,rb) event = in_file.read(16) while event: (time1,time2, type, code, value) = \ struct.unpack(fmt,event) time = time1 + time2 / 100.0 if type == 2: if code == 0: x = value if code == 1: y = value if code == 2: z = value if type == 0 and code == 0: sum = int(sqrt(x*x + y*y + z*z)) print x, y, z, sum event = in_file.read(16) in_file.close() ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
2008/12/14 Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de: Hi, today I have installed the current release from navit and it looks much better. But I have a question about the layout of the buttons in the actions panel. How to change the layout from horizontal to vertical ? The problem: I do not see all of the buttons :-( Thanks Lothar Have you modified navit.xml? In this version there is an option to set the gui to a mode called internal, which is optimized for small screens. For the internal gui type you can also specify icon size. I believe the default opkg specifies internal, but doesn't set the icon size, though there is a sample line in the config file for the Neo. I don't like modifying the default /usr/share/navit/navit.xml, so I like to # mkdir ~/.navit # cp /usr/share/navit/navit.xml ~/.navit/ Edit that file, then search for internal. Around line 30 you'll see a sample setting for gui / for the Neo. Uncomment that, then comment out the other gui / element just below it. I also found this setting quite nice: a few more lines down there are number of osd / elements (On Screen Display), set zoom_in, zoom_out, and gui_internal_fullscreen to enabled and disable the rest. This will give you transparent zoom in and zoom out buttons in the bottom corners, and a fullscreen toggle in the upper left corner. In fullscreen mode and with this internal gui type, Navit is really looking like a consumer level map/navigation program on the Neo. Nathan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
i put export ... line in ~/.profile cat /home/root/.profile export QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 I don't see what the point is in that. I already said that it disabled the qtopia keyboard when I added the line in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia. The qtopia one is disabled but how can I use other keyboards in it's place? I did try to put it in .profile and disabling it in 89qtopia but it gives the same exact result -- no keyboard at all. Yogiz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
no, Raster's keyboard work in ASU too, but ASU profile just don'have qwerty button. You need edit ASU theme or get already edited theme, from FDOM from example. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Toggle Thanks for that, but I didn't get it all to work. I did edit the asu.edje theme file and got the qwerty button to appear and work for the default qtopia keyboard. I can't however get the rasterman's keyboard to work. illume-config and illume-config-illume already are at the latest version and disabling the default qtopia keyboard in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia, purging enlightenment's cache and restarting X just leaves me with no keyboard and non-working qwerty button. I can't find any more detailed instructions then these. Or did you mean that I have to change something else in the edje as well to get the terminal keyboard? I'll try to look up the FDOM edje file and see. Yogiz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: kismet on freerunner
On Sunday 14 December 2008, Joop Boonen wrote: On Wed, November 26, 2008 2:26 pm, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: snip FATAL: Failed to set monitor mode: Invalid argument. This usually means your drivers either do not support monitor mode, or use a different mechanism for getting to it. Make sure you have a version of your drivers that support monitor mode, and consult the troubleshooting section of the README. snip Nowadays wifi drivers doesn't support monitor mode, the only way to use freerunner as kismet scaner is attaching an usb wifi dongle. Why don't the drivers support monitor mode? It's not the drivers, it's the firmware on the atheros wifi chip. Much of the wifi processing happens on the chip instead of in the kernel, so we only get the modes it supports. Monitor mode is not among them. Would it be possible to add it to this driver? To me it's not preferable to add an extra wifi dongle when the device has wifi itself. It would indeed be preferable, but you'll have to convince atheros to modify their firmware before it can happen. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Newer Navit [was: geocaching with tangoGPS on FR]
i tried the deb one [svn-1791] but apparently with no success... terminal output launching navit: illegal instruction i'll try older packages soon On 12/14/08, KaZeR ka...@altern.org wrote: Dan Staley a écrit : Where could we find this new package? Is it the one linked to on the wiki? I'd like to try it out on my debian install. -Dan Staley Ah, sorry, i forgot the link. http://download.navit-project.org/navit/ You will find there nightly builds for every kind of supported platforms. BTW, the build from this night contains a new feature: background search. Might be a bit buggy, feedback wanted! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:19:46 +0300, Yogiz yog...@gmail.com wrote: no, Raster's keyboard work in ASU too, but ASU profile just don'have qwerty button. You need edit ASU theme or get already edited theme, from FDOM from example. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Toggle Thanks for that, but I didn't get it all to work. I did edit the asu.edje theme file and got the qwerty button to appear and work for the default qtopia keyboard. I can't however get the rasterman's keyboard to work. illume-config and illume-config-illume already are at the latest version and disabling the default qtopia keyboard in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia, purging enlightenment's cache and restarting X just leaves me with no keyboard and non-working qwerty button. I can't find any more detailed instructions then these. Or did you mean that I have to change something else in the edje as well to get the terminal keyboard? I'll try to look up the FDOM edje file and see. Yogiz i put export ... line in ~/.profile cat /home/root/.profile export QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reliable application for accelerometers?
As far as I know, such an application doesn't exist, but easy to write your own. You just read acc. values from /dev/something On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:42 AM, KaZeR ka...@altern.org wrote: Hi everyone. I'd need to be able to record accelerometers values and graph them later. The measure should last around 30 minutes. Can anyone recommend an application for that? Thanks in advance. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 13:44:41 +0300, Atilla Filiz atilla.fi...@gmail.com wrote: Switching profile put the qwerty button there but the keyboard was still the predictive one, without any switch buttons. Also the theme frequently crashes the X server so i switched back to ASU illume theme work with software engine, ASU optimized for software_16 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Navit actions menu layout ?
Hi, today I have installed the current release from navit and it looks much better. But I have a question about the layout of the buttons in the actions panel. How to change the layout from horizontal to vertical ? The problem: I do not see all of the buttons :-( Thanks Lothar -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Newer Navit
dsca...@gmail.com writes: i tried the deb one [svn-1791] but apparently with no success... terminal output launching navit: illegal instruction It was obviously not compiled for armv4? If the provided source code you could apt-get --build source navit to get packages that work on your system. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
Yorick Moko a écrit : i did that but i get: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ DISPLAY=:0 navit navit:convert_to_attrs:failed to create attribute 'icons_xs' with value '60' vehicle_gpsd:vehicle_gpsd_try_open:Connected to gpsd fd=4 iochan=0x8a078 watch=0x2 navit:main:Using '/home/root/.navit/navit.xml' and see no buttons (except for the zoom in and out button, but when i press the top of the screen i do get into a settings-screen) Using internal gui, it's intended to have no buttons when you are viewing the map, in order to use most space for the map. Touching the map should bring you a black screen with 3 buttons : actions, settings and tools, each one with an icon. Does that work for you? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Newer Navit [was: geocaching with tangoGPS on FR]
dsca...@gmail.com a écrit : i tried the deb one [svn-1791] but apparently with no success... terminal output launching navit: illegal instruction i'll try older packages soon The .deb packages there are intended for pc-compatibles cpus. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
Lothar Behrens a écrit : Hi, today I have installed the current release from navit and it looks much better. But I have a question about the layout of the buttons in the actions panel. How to change the layout from horizontal to vertical ? The problem: I do not see all of the buttons :-( Hi Lothar, Would you be able to make a screenshot of the problem? With the new default configuration it should look nice. I guess that you didn't updated navit.xml (probably not to loose your maps settings) and that you don't have uncommented the icon_xs size tag for example. Then you probably miss a few other enhancements :) Do you have a navit.xml in /home/root/.navit/ ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
Yes, there is a + on bottom right, a - on bottom left, a compas on top left and a eta on top right as I activated them. The plain map display is mostly ok (the info picture in the bottom left may be a bit bigger to easier see it :-) Am 14.12.2008 um 14:59 schrieb KaZeR: Yorick Moko a écrit : i did that but i get: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ DISPLAY=:0 navit navit:convert_to_attrs:failed to create attribute 'icons_xs' with value '60' vehicle_gpsd:vehicle_gpsd_try_open:Connected to gpsd fd=4 iochan=0x8a078 watch=0x2 navit:main:Using '/home/root/.navit/navit.xml' and see no buttons (except for the zoom in and out button, but when i press the top of the screen i do get into a settings-screen) Using internal gui, it's intended to have no buttons when you are viewing the map, in order to use most space for the map. Touching the map should bring you a black screen with 3 buttons : actions, settings and tools, each one with an icon. Does that work for you? It works, but what I mean, is, these are partly out of screen: *=* | | | | ** ** ** || || || || || || ** ** ** | | | | | | ** ** ** || || || || || || ** ** ** | | | | *=* Can these buttons moved by configuration ? BTW, I now have tested the navigation with my car. It works reasonable good. But some crashes - while speaking I think - stops navit to work. I need a simulation car. Could I create such a car by getting the calculated route ? I haven't activated tracking for my car definition in my last test :-( Thanks Lothar ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.x] Forcing screen refresh after xrandr action
Good morning to the List After any any orientation update ( ex: xrandr -o left ), it seems that only the overlaping sections between the two orientations refreshes properly (480x480 area). The remaining 480x160 (or 160x480) region stays black, even though programs whose launchers are in the black areas can be launched. After a UI update (such as launching another program) this black region go away. Is there any way to force an update to the UI following a xrandr command to remove this issue? I remember this has been previously discussed but I can't find the outcome. Kind regards, Cameron signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Newer Navit
KaZeR ka...@altern.org writes: The .deb packages there are intended for pc-compatibles cpus. How can you install them on armel if they have architecture set to i386? dpkg should refuse. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reliable application for accelerometers?
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 4:42 AM, KaZeR ka...@altern.org wrote: Hi everyone. I'd need to be able to record accelerometers values and graph them later. The measure should last around 30 minutes. Can anyone recommend an application for that? You might find this page useful. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer_data_retrieval N.- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
Lothar Behrens a écrit : Yes, there is a + on bottom right, a - on bottom left, a compas on top left and a eta on top right as I activated them. The plain map display is mostly ok (the info picture in the bottom left may be a bit bigger to easier see it :-) It works, but what I mean, is, these are partly out of screen: *=* | | | | ** ** ** || || || || || || ** ** ** | | | | | | ** ** ** || || || || || || ** ** ** | | | | *=* Can these buttons moved by configuration ? Moved, no, resized, yes. It's really weird, since we have the same device, we should have the same results :) BTW, I now have tested the navigation with my car. It works reasonable good. But some crashes - while speaking I think - stops navit to work. I need a simulation car. Could I create such a car by getting the calculated route ? Have a look at the demo vehicule in xml file. Disable the gpsd vehicule, and enable this one Once in navit, touch the map, action, your position, set at position Then you can use navit as usual : if you choose a destination, it will simulate the trip. I haven't activated tracking for my car definition in my last test :-( Ah. Logs could help debugging your crashes. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Graphical GPRS launcher for FSO-based distros
I recently started using SHR and am very happy with it. GPRS worked nicely, but I had no good way of launching it. Yes, I know, there is the framework-settings utility, and it works, but it doesn't tell me the current status or give any feedback other than showing the button as pressed and sometimes the button would be pressed, yet the connection failed in the background. Anyway, I put together a small tool that uses Gtkdialog. Hopefully it could be useful to someone else: http://natha.nkinka.de/gprs_launcher.sh It seems to work nicely for me. It can be used to start the connection, stop the connection, or to simply find out the current GPRS status. It requires Gtkdialog which didn't have a package in the SHR repository, so I built an ipk from the latest sources. It's the first ipk I ever built, so it's surely of low quality in terms of metadata, but it works: http://natha.nkinka.de/gtkdialog-0.7.9_0.1_armv4t.ipk Nathan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
for sale
I'm selling my FR. I need to recoop some of the money I invested in it, unfortunately. If anyone would like to make an offer, please email me at: step...@stephenashelton.com I'm in the southern United States. I purchased this on opening day. I can provide pictures. All original packaging and materials are available. The phone has an Invisible Shield and is in pristine condition. I'll be putting this on ebay in a few days if I don't get much response here. Thanks! -- Stephen Shelton step...@stephenashelton.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
Yuo have installed (bad english sorry!) illume-config and illume-config-illume? and after the reboot in the new illume config (at the top in the pager when is expanded) the keyboard at defoult.. 2008/12/14 Yogiz yog...@gmail.com: i put export ... line in ~/.profile cat /home/root/.profile export QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 I don't see what the point is in that. I already said that it disabled the qtopia keyboard when I added the line in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia. The qtopia one is disabled but how can I use other keyboards in it's place? I did try to put it in .profile and disabling it in 89qtopia but it gives the same exact result -- no keyboard at all. Yogiz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Martino ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:58:00 +0100 Martino manda@gmail.com wrote: Yuo have installed (bad english sorry!) illume-config and illume-config-illume? and after the reboot in the new illume config (at the top in the pager when is expanded) the keyboard at defoult.. illume-config and illume-config-illume were already installed when I started messing around. I don't know if they're included in the testing image or were dependencies for some other piece of software. Reboot or no reboot, I either have the default qtopia keyboard if I add nothing/comment out the line in qtopia89 or have nothing at all if I add it there or in my .profile. Yogiz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Enjoy!
Leonti Bielski wrote: I think I've seen it on scat.linuxtogo.org some time ago. It means someone run it succesfully on FR. Sorry, don't know any details. On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Martino manda@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Some one is working around this http://profusion.mobi/node/10 ?? Is possible to have a ipkg on opkg.org!! I find it great.. And for now I don't found nothing similar.. I'm the one who uploaded the screenshot on Scap... I got it running compiling from git the guarana and lightmediascanner libs (and enjoy, of course :P). It's really nice and fast, BTW I didn't get the sound working, that's why I didn't upload any package... I'll wait it for being merged upstream before trying it again. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
Nathan Kinkade wrote: Have you modified navit.xml? In this version there is an option to set the gui to a mode called internal, which is optimized for small screens. For the internal gui type you can also specify icon size. I believe the default opkg specifies internal, but doesn't set the icon size, though there is a sample line in the config file for the Neo. I don't like modifying the default /usr/share/navit/navit.xml, so I like to # mkdir ~/.navit # cp /usr/share/navit/navit.xml ~/.navit/ Edit that file, then search for internal. Around line 30 you'll see a sample setting for gui / for the Neo. Uncomment that, then comment out the other gui / element just below it. I also found this setting quite nice: a few more lines down there are number of osd / elements (On Screen Display), set zoom_in, zoom_out, and gui_internal_fullscreen to enabled and disable the rest. This will give you transparent zoom in and zoom out buttons in the bottom corners, and a fullscreen toggle in the upper left corner. In fullscreen mode and with this internal gui type, Navit is really looking like a consumer level map/navigation program on the Neo. GUI Internal has some issues (read more at [1]) to me, so I prefer using the GTK gui without all but the menu bar. Those are is my navit.xml gui parameters: gui type=gtk menubar=1 toolbar=0 statusbar=0 / osd enabled=yes type=compass/ osd enabled=yes type=eta/ osd enabled=yes type=navigation/ osd enabled=yes type=button x=-96 y=-96 command=zoom_in src=zoom_in.xpm/ osd enabled=yes type=button x=0 y=-96 command=zoom_out src=zoom_out.xpm/ /gui It's quite good to me... Just two things: - The cursor should be bigger (mainly with a bolder outline) and its colors (I've set also color2) should be set to other values (more different to the main street colors). - The ETA and Navigation OSD boxes should be bigger too. It's quite hard to look at them while driving (I'm keeping the FR near my steering wheel but it's hard to read them anyway). Ah, I forgot to say that after this upgrade (I used the packages linked in the wiki before) navit seems to suggest me to turn too many times also if I'm still keeping the main way (using the Reiserplaner maps). [1] http://n2.nabble.com/navit-on-FR-report-tp1631491p1641083.html -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: It's quite good to me... Just two things: - The cursor should be bigger (mainly with a bolder outline) and its colors (I've set also color2) should be set to other values (more different to the main street colors). I've configured it a little... Using these vehicle settings the cursor is slightly better: vehicle name=Local GPS enabled=no active=1 source=gpsd://localhost gpsd_query=w+xj color=#ff color2=#00ff00 cursor w=26 h=26 itemgra circle color=#33 radius=30 width=15 coord x=0 y=0/ /circle /itemgra itemgra speed_range=-2 polyline color=#ff00ff width=20 coord x=0 y=0/ coord x=0 y=0/ /polyline /itemgra itemgra speed_range=3- polyline color=#ff width=5 coord x=-7 y=-10/ coord x=0 y=12/ coord x=7 y=-10/ /polyline /itemgra /cursor /vehicle -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Enjoy!
Argh!! No sound!! I'll wait for it!!! :D Thanks Treviño! 2008/12/14 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net: Leonti Bielski wrote: I think I've seen it on scat.linuxtogo.org some time ago. It means someone run it succesfully on FR. Sorry, don't know any details. On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Martino manda@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Some one is working around this http://profusion.mobi/node/10 ?? Is possible to have a ipkg on opkg.org!! I find it great.. And for now I don't found nothing similar.. I'm the one who uploaded the screenshot on Scap... I got it running compiling from git the guarana and lightmediascanner libs (and enjoy, of course :P). It's really nice and fast, BTW I didn't get the sound working, that's why I didn't upload any package... I'll wait it for being merged upstream before trying it again. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Martino ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
could you post your config? i am struggling unsuccessfully with the configuration of the navigation -- so far navit does nothing but to show where i am, how to make navigation working remains a mystery to me (the navit page and wiki are not helpful in this respect). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
KaZeR wrote: Lothar Behrens a écrit : It works, but what I mean, is, these are partly out of screen: *=* | | | | ** ** ** || || || || || || ** ** ** | | | | | | ** ** ** || || || || || || ** ** ** | | | | *=* Can these buttons moved by configuration ? Moved, no, resized, yes. It's really weird, since we have the same device, we should have the same results :) I think i know which problem he means because i got the same. The screen layout is upwards like in the nice ascii picture and not in landscape mode. Then the 3 initial buttons are in three columns and the outer two gets out of the screen. It seems that the button arrangement is meant for landscape mode. I had to adjust the icon size to see all three. So it would be good if the arrangement of these buttons could be changed to a matrix of 2/3 cols and 2/3 rows. So i can use 2x3 or 3x2 for buttons layout in conjunction with normal or landscape screen orientation. Except for that little optical flaw the internal gui is really nice. Much better than the first navit version i tried months ago. And now that i know how to activate the map drag patch i could drag the map quite fast. :) Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
daily testing images info and some text if you want to read
Hello, Do you have any place where you put the changes that you have made in every daily image? http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing I read a lot of emails from people telling that FreeRunner dont have the basic things working... I have flash a lot of versions, to test and to find what is the best for me... And the last one, is the daily testing image with Om, from 11/12/2008. I can say that i'm very happy with this version, and is only testing, not a release. I can make/receive calls, and send/receive sms - Basic to a mobile right? I have calculator, calendar, text editor, file browser, web Browser, terminal, and a basic piano also :) I have a GPS receiver, that work great with TangoGPS, in a good place, i can get a fix, on less than 5 minutes with GPS turned ON. I have Wifi, in my home and places with wireless i can use it... and works great. Suspend/Resume, works great too. The battery life, is almost 2 days... I think this is more than basic! http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing Thanks for work! Samuel (Portugal) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
Yogiz schrieb: On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:58:00 +0100 Martino manda@gmail.com wrote: Yuo have installed (bad english sorry!) illume-config and illume-config-illume? and after the reboot in the new illume config (at the top in the pager when is expanded) the keyboard at defoult.. illume-config and illume-config-illume were already installed when I started messing around. I don't know if they're included in the testing image or were dependencies for some other piece of software. Reboot or no reboot, I either have the default qtopia keyboard if I add nothing/comment out the line in qtopia89 or have nothing at all if I add it there or in my .profile. Yogiz what about that: decompile the asu and the illume theme with edje_decc (follow wiki instructions) then copy the keyboard part from the illume.edc into the asu.edc the buildscript will probably reporte an error about size:...not known or something like that. delete the line that causes the error and re-run build.sh. i customized my theme, when i was using 2008.9 and it worked (you have to copy the pngs that the illume theme uses for the virtual keyboard into the aus.theme working directory, ofcourse!) this should work, since you already have the qwerty button in the top bar backup your asu theme (just the edj file) before you try this ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: daily testing images info and some text if you want to read
Samuel Pereira schrieb: Hello, Do you have any place where you put the changes that you have made in every daily image? http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing I read a lot of emails from people telling that FreeRunner dont have the basic things working... I have flash a lot of versions, to test and to find what is the best for me... And the last one, is the daily testing image with Om, from 11/12/2008. I can say that i'm very happy with this version, and is only testing, not a release. I can make/receive calls, and send/receive sms - Basic to a mobile right? I have calculator, calendar, text editor, file browser, web Browser, terminal, and a basic piano also :) I have a GPS receiver, that work great with TangoGPS, in a good place, i can get a fix, on less than 5 minutes with GPS turned ON. I have Wifi, in my home and places with wireless i can use it... and works great. Suspend/Resume, works great too. The battery life, is almost 2 days... I think this is more than basic! http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing Thanks for work! Samuel (Portugal) Same here (already ha dit working like that with om2008.9, but the testing image is much faster) been using the fr as a daily phone for 2 months now ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qwerty keyboard
Do you have these installed? illume-keyboards-default illume-keyboards-numbers illume-keyboards-terminal I removed the first two and just left terminal to stop it falling back to default at inopportune times. Make sure the default keyboard is selected in the illume config tool (spanner) BillK On Sun, 2008-12-14 at 21:26 +0200, Yogiz wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:58:00 +0100 Martino manda@gmail.com wrote: Yuo have installed (bad english sorry!) illume-config and illume-config-illume? and after the reboot in the new illume config (at the top in the pager when is expanded) the keyboard at defoult.. illume-config and illume-config-illume were already installed when I started messing around. I don't know if they're included in the testing image or were dependencies for some other piece of software. Reboot or no reboot, I either have the default qtopia keyboard if I add nothing/comment out the line in qtopia89 or have nothing at all if I add it there or in my .profile. Yogiz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Graphical GPRS launcher for FSO-based distros
Nathan Kinkade wrote: I recently started using SHR and am very happy with it. GPRS worked nicely, but I had no good way of launching it. Yes, I know, there is the framework-settings utility, and it works, but it doesn't tell me the current status or give any feedback other than showing the button as pressed and sometimes the button would be pressed, yet the connection failed in the background. Anyway, I put together a small tool that uses Gtkdialog. Hopefully it could be useful to someone else: http://natha.nkinka.de/gprs_launcher.sh It seems to work nicely for me. It can be used to start the connection, stop the connection, or to simply find out the current GPRS status. It requires Gtkdialog which didn't have a package in the SHR repository, so I built an ipk from the latest sources. It's the first ipk I ever built, so it's surely of low quality in terms of metadata, but it works: http://natha.nkinka.de/gtkdialog-0.7.9_0.1_armv4t.ipk Brillant idea. Nice to have gtkdialog, it can be an alternative to python/gtk in some cases. I found a small bug. A /button is missing in GPRS_UNKNOWN string. -- Valéry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
arne anka ha scritto: could you post your config? Who? I? i am struggling unsuccessfully with the configuration of the navigation -- so far navit does nothing but to show where i am, how to make navigation working remains a mystery to me (the navit page and wiki are not helpful in this respect). For navigatin you can use the menu (tap on the map for setting the destination position) or the Route - Destination menu. When you're there write the country you're searching in (removing the ending space if you use a finger-keyboard that uses a dictionary), then the City (with commercial maps just one word; if it has more, put the more important), and then the Street. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Graphical GPRS launcher for FSO-based distros
2008/12/14 Valery Febvre vfeb...@easter-eggs.com: Nathan Kinkade wrote: I recently started using SHR and am very happy with it. GPRS worked nicely, but I had no good way of launching it. Yes, I know, there is the framework-settings utility, and it works, but it doesn't tell me the current status or give any feedback other than showing the button as pressed and sometimes the button would be pressed, yet the connection failed in the background. Anyway, I put together a small tool that uses Gtkdialog. Hopefully it could be useful to someone else: http://natha.nkinka.de/gprs_launcher.sh It seems to work nicely for me. It can be used to start the connection, stop the connection, or to simply find out the current GPRS status. It requires Gtkdialog which didn't have a package in the SHR repository, so I built an ipk from the latest sources. It's the first ipk I ever built, so it's surely of low quality in terms of metadata, but it works: http://natha.nkinka.de/gtkdialog-0.7.9_0.1_armv4t.ipk Brillant idea. Nice to have gtkdialog, it can be an alternative to python/gtk in some cases. I found a small bug. A /button is missing in GPRS_UNKNOWN string. -- Valéry You're right, thanks! I fixed the missing /button. I'd like to find a little more documentation. The examples that come with it are good, but there were some things I wasn't sure about and I found it really difficult to turn up anything useful on the Web. For example, it would be nice if the buttons were bigger. Nathan Nathan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Graphical GPRS launcher for FSO-based distros
2008/12/15 Valery Febvre vfeb...@easter-eggs.com: It seems to work nicely for me. It can be used to start the connection, stop the connection, or to simply find out the current GPRS status. It requires Gtkdialog which didn't have a package in the SHR repository, so I built an ipk from the latest sources. It's the first ipk I ever built, so it's surely of low quality in terms of metadata, but it works: http://natha.nkinka.de/gtkdialog-0.7.9_0.1_armv4t.ipk ah, this is fantastic. i'm not too fussed about having gprs in fso, but having gtkdialog is great - very useful for quick GUIs for scripts thanks for putting this together. will you be maintaining it, i.e. packaging newer versions as they're released, or could om auto build it and put it in the repos? hint, hint ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
For navigatin you can use the menu (tap on the map for setting the destination position) or the Route - Destination menu. When you're there write the country you're searching in (removing the ending space if you use a finger-keyboard that uses a dictionary), then the City (with commercial maps just one word; if it has more, put the more important), and then the Street. been there, done that already. the destination window stays regardless which button i hit, no indication of any calculation or so, which would explain why the window does not disappear. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Graphical GPRS launcher for FSO-based distros
2008/12/14 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com: snip http://natha.nkinka.de/gtkdialog-0.7.9_0.1_armv4t.ipk ah, this is fantastic. i'm not too fussed about having gprs in fso, but having gtkdialog is great - very useful for quick GUIs for scripts thanks for putting this together. will you be maintaining it, i.e. packaging newer versions as they're released, or could om auto build it and put it in the repos? hint, hint I didn't have any plans to maintain it. Looking at the changelog it doesn't appear that there has been any new work for about the past 2 years. What I probably will do, though, is to rebuild the package with better metadata. It would definitely be better for this to be in some official repository. Tools like this and perhaps Zenity are great for an environment like the Neo because they are easy tools to create finger-friendly utilities without having to muck around with any serious programming or toolchains, etc. Nathan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Changes on org.freesmartphone.frameworkd
Hello watching the dbus interface on org.freesmartphone.frameworkd I saw there is not more support to the function GetPower and SetPower on GSM (Yes, I remember Steve told to me it had to be removed) and for GPS too. Is still possible to remove power to gps chip? Or I have to simply use the functions Disable / Enable / Resume / Suspend? If it is so, how can I check the status of the power of the chip? Thank you Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Changes on org.freesmartphone.frameworkd
Am Monday 15 December 2008 01:05:37 schrieb Michele Renda: watching the dbus interface on org.freesmartphone.frameworkd I saw there is not more support to the function GetPower and SetPower on GSM (Yes, I remember Steve told to me it had to be removed) and for GPS too. Is still possible to remove power to gps chip? Or I have to simply use the functions Disable / Enable / Resume / Suspend? If it is so, how can I check the status of the power of the chip? Use the resource interface and everything will be handled for you: http://docs.freesmartphone.org/org.freesmartphone.Usage.html -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Changes on org.freesmartphone.frameworkd
What about all the existing FSO consumers? Is there any way in DBUS to provide a compatibility layer? Additionally, what if we need to operate the modem's power independently of the resource (things like if you have a thread that restarts the modem when there is an exceptional condition). How will these work? On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@openmoko.org wrote: Am Monday 15 December 2008 01:05:37 schrieb Michele Renda: watching the dbus interface on org.freesmartphone.frameworkd I saw there is not more support to the function GetPower and SetPower on GSM (Yes, I remember Steve told to me it had to be removed) and for GPS too. Is still possible to remove power to gps chip? Or I have to simply use the functions Disable / Enable / Resume / Suspend? If it is so, how can I check the status of the power of the chip? Use the resource interface and everything will be handled for you: http://docs.freesmartphone.org/org.freesmartphone.Usage.html -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Changes on org.freesmartphone.frameworkd
I think the programs that use FSO must to be udpated. Now the FSO interface is becoming more clean. I am now working on sephora to get is again working, and I saw that now I don't need more a lot of trash code I wrote. Il 15/12/2008 01:20, Sargun Dhillon ha scritto: What about all the existing FSO consumers? Is there any way in DBUS to provide a compatibility layer? Additionally, what if we need to operate the modem's power independently of the resource (things like if you have a thread that restarts the modem when there is an exceptional condition). How will these work? On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@openmoko.org wrote: Am Monday 15 December 2008 01:05:37 schrieb Michele Renda: watching the dbus interface on org.freesmartphone.frameworkd I saw there is not more support to the function GetPower and SetPower on GSM (Yes, I remember Steve told to me it had to be removed) and for GPS too. Is still possible to remove power to gps chip? Or I have to simply use the functions Disable / Enable / Resume / Suspend? If it is so, how can I check the status of the power of the chip? Use the resource interface and everything will be handled for you: http://docs.freesmartphone.org/org.freesmartphone.Usage.html -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Changes on org.freesmartphone.frameworkd
Am Monday 15 December 2008 01:20:20 schrieb Sargun Dhillon: What about all the existing FSO consumers? Is there any way in DBUS to provide a compatibility layer? Not really, no. And given our status (still way to go before hitting 1.0), the API is subject to change. Additionally, what if we need to operate the modem's power independently of the resource (things like if you have a thread that restarts the modem when there is an exceptional condition). How will these work? This will not be supported. If you are using the framework, you are using a service abstraction and you are not supposed to do things behind the framework -- and you don't need to. The framework is supposed to detect exceptional conditions and restart resources transparently. If you want to have full control over GSM, don't use ogsmd and just talk via sysfs and /dev/ttySAC0 to the modem. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
arne anka wrote: For navigatin you can use the menu (tap on the map for setting the destination position) or the Route - Destination menu. When you're there write the country you're searching in (removing the ending space if you use a finger-keyboard that uses a dictionary), then the City (with commercial maps just one word; if it has more, put the more important), and then the Street. been there, done that already. the destination window stays regardless which button i hit, no indication of any calculation or so, which would explain why the window does not disappear. The destination window doesn't disappear even after selecting the desired destination for routing. I had to close the destination window by hand and in the main window it calculates the route as expected. Don't know if this window staying is a bug or a feature. ;) Only the way how to select the destination is sometimes a bit strange. I tried to route me from one city to another ~6km and it worked quite good. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Newer Navit [was: geocaching with tangoGPS on FR]
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) a écrit : KaZeR wrote: Hi Treviño, and thanks for your feedback No words about the mg/Raiserplaner maps issues? :P BTW thanks for the rest... Well, just because i had nothing interesting to say about them at the time being :) I kept your mail, we're going to have a look, and i'll report progress. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit actions menu layout ?
Fox Mulder a écrit : KaZeR wrote: Lothar Behrens a écrit : It works, but what I mean, is, these are partly out of screen: *=* | | | | ** ** ** || || || || || || ** ** ** | | | | | | ** ** ** || || || || || || ** ** ** | | | | *=* Can these buttons moved by configuration ? Moved, no, resized, yes. It's really weird, since we have the same device, we should have the same results :) I think i know which problem he means because i got the same. The screen layout is upwards like in the nice ascii picture and not in landscape mode. Then the 3 initial buttons are in three columns and the outer two gets out of the screen. It seems that the button arrangement is meant for landscape mode. I had to adjust the icon size to see all three. So it would be good if the arrangement of these buttons could be changed to a matrix of 2/3 cols and 2/3 rows. So i can use 2x3 or 3x2 for buttons layout in conjunction with normal or landscape screen orientation. Well, it's true that the gui is more meant to be used in landscape mode. I personally use omnewrotate, so i don't have to care about rotating the screen. What about using the trick that was posted a few weeks ago for a game, consisting of writing a wrapper script which rotates the script, then launch navit? About the matrix mode, i suggest that you post a feature request on the tracker : http://trac.navit-project.org Except for that little optical flaw the internal gui is really nice. Much better than the first navit version i tried months ago. And now that i know how to activate the map drag patch i could drag the map quite fast. :) Thank you :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
