Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
I don't care for 3G. GSM is a crappy technology here in the states (I blame the implementors). We have flat data rates for a variety of reasons. Additionally, why are we expecting 3G from OM, they are having a hard time getting a phone right. Why are we holding them to the same standards as Apple, HTC, etc... Apple can't get 3G in the iPhone for two years. Their hardware staff is probably a thousand times bigger than the 2 guys working on mokoforesight right now. (Based on the assumption they have 2000 people doing hardware, including vendors, and contractors. Give OM a break. Please On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 9:47 PM, Milos Mandaric mi...@manda.com.ba wrote: U Uto, 23. 12. 2008., u 20:24 -0800, Sargun Dhillon je napisao/la: Quick thing, what are you guys calling 3G. EDGE is considered 3G by the terrible company by the name of Apple, but as a CDMA (EV-DO) user, I consider UMTS/HS?PA as 3G. Please clarify. -Thanks. On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Milos Mandaric mi...@manda.com.ba wrote: U Sri, 24. 12. 2008., u 15:02 +1100, Ben je napisao/la: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org wrote Improving to 3G is therefore a nice to have for me. Not mandatory. You should mention what country you're in, as you can see, it makes a big difference. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I live in Bosnia and here there is no 3G, so I don't need it at all! :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community When I am talking about 3G, I am thinking about UMTS/HS?PA. I have EDGE. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS testing on 2008.12
Hi Jan, You could try to work on the low level first: If you activated gps in the settings, try to do cat /dev/ttySAC1 this should give you some output like this: r...@freerunner:~# cat /dev/ttySAC1 NMEA unknown msg*58 $GPTXT,01,01,01,NMEA unknown msg*58 $GPTXT$GPRMC,,V,,N*53 this would indicate that the unit is in fact powered on and working. Next you could try to start gpsd ( /etc/init.d/gpsd start ) make sure the device in /etc/default/gpsd is /dev/ttySAC1 now you can use gpspipe -r to check if gpsd is getting data. (gpspipe is in the gps-utils package, so you might have to use opkg install gps-utils first) it should look something like this: r...@freerunner:~# gpspipe -r GPSD,R=1 $GPZDA,00,00*48 $GPTXT,01,01,01,PSRF inv format*2B $GPTXT,01,01,01,PGRM inv format*34 $GPTXT,01,01,01,PFEC inv format*2C $GPRMC,,V,,N*53 $GPVTG,N*30 $GPGGA,,0,00,99.99,,*48 $GPGSA,A,1,99.99,99.99,99.99*30 this would indicate that gpsd is running. Time to first fix might take a while, please read the wiki about that. The assisted gps tool (agps-onlinec) really makes the TTFF much faster, so give it a try. If you swich of the gps unit the almanac info received with agps-onlinec seems to be lost, so run it again after each power up of the gps unit. with tango gps in the trip section you can see how many satelites should be in view and how many are in view. something like 10/6. I hope this will get you on your way. I can recomend navit as an gps application, it is a bit like tomtom and i find it very usefull. Kind regrads, Ed 2008-12-24 at 01:37 +, Jan Henkins wrote: Hello all, I hope somebody here might have an idea or two that might shed some light. I've trawled for HOWTO's and recipes on how to get the GPS working on my FR, but to no avail, none of them worked at all. In order to to some low-level testing to acertain whether I have a possible hardware problem or not, is there a way to check the GPS device for activity of some sort? I've left agpsui running for almost half a day (with GPS enabled in Settings of course), but I get no good fixes or any TTFF. The rest of the phone seems to be working OK, I manage to make/receive calls and SMS's reliably. I have even managed to sort-of stabilise 2008.12 with regards to suspend, and also managed to get Enlightenment to stop crashing all the time with Illume (thanks to Yaroslav's WIKI entry!). Any ideas how I can do some low-level testing on the GPS device? Thanks in advance! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.12] Make the sound setting permanent
Hi, I've switched to Om2008.12 yesterday and really enjoyed it. I'm suggesting an improvement to the volume bar during calls. Could the last setting be recalled on the next call. So far, I've always needed to set it to max and it's not very convenient when you don't use a headset. Also, what alsa setting does it change ? Btw couldn't this volume bar be adjusted by the AUX button (you don't really need to lock/unlock during a call). It would be more convenient in my opinion : you don't need to put down the handset to ajust it. Thanks for the good work, Julien. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Sargun Dhillon xbmodder+openm...@gmail.comxbmodder%2bopenm...@gmail.com wrote: I don't care for 3G. GSM is a crappy technology here in the states (I blame the implementors). We have flat data rates for a variety of reasons. Additionally, why are we expecting 3G from OM, they are having a hard time getting a phone right. Why are we holding them to the same standards as Apple, HTC, etc... Apple can't get 3G in the iPhone for two years. Their hardware staff is probably a thousand times bigger than the 2 guys working on mokoforesight right now. (Based on the assumption they have 2000 people doing hardware, including vendors, and contractors. Give OM a break. Please Also if there are reports of 3G dongles working well with the Freerunner, please post them on this list/ wiki. Resellers can start stocking them if the demand is there. Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] Make the sound setting permanent
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 09:32:57AM +0100, julien cubizolles wrote: Hi, I've switched to Om2008.12 yesterday and really enjoyed it. I'm suggesting an improvement to the volume bar during calls. Could the last setting be recalled on the next call. So far, I've always needed to set it to max and it's not very convenient when you don't use a headset. Also, what alsa setting does it change ? Refer to http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1489 and http://git.openmoko.org/?p=qtopia.git;a=commit;h=eb855af76018bedf6a89b9ac736d2ffa3961932b It doesn't change alsa, but uses AT+CLVL instead. Btw couldn't this volume bar be adjusted by the AUX button (you don't really need to lock/unlock during a call). It would be more convenient in my opinion : you don't need to put down the handset to ajust it. Thanks for the good work, Julien. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Weather app: meooem 0.0.1
Intraction with the gps would be great /rikard On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know why, but I like it (probably just because it works ;-)) maybe also adding a possibility to launch a window with all our favorite places; or a gui to choose a location (and maybe even get forecasts?) On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Yann Neveu yann_m...@gabuzomeu.fr wrote: Here: http://gabuzomeu.fr/openmoko/meooem/ and on http://www.opkg.org/package_66.html , you'll find a small app which fetch yahoo rss weather feed and add an icon on your illume launcher. You can press on it to update datas. If not connected, no feed, and the temp will be -1. Code is bloated and ugly and the next step is to clean up before adding other functions like displaying next days forecast and things like that. Other change will be the icon set which could be more free than the stardock ones (see the /usr/share/pixmaps/meoeem/stardock/permission.txt). Please modify /etc/meooem.conf to have you preffered city weather instead of mine. Any suggestions welcomed. Yann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS testing on 2008.12
Hey, I have been doing the exact same thing the last few days. I thouroughly read the different wiki pages [1] but it did not really help me besides pointing me to agpsui. I was only acknowledged the device was working when I activated the GPS, booted tangogps and started walking around in town. Only then it clearly picked up satellite's. What I also did when only a single satellite was detected (according to tangogps) was turning off the gps and then turning it back on. I'm really not sure whether this had any influence, it only made me believe so as it made a difference and I got a fix. Another thing I stumbled upon was some strange qpe behaviour. I downloaded some maps (quite a lot :) ) and saved them on /media/card/Maps. Now if I boot my phone, qpe takes a lot of CPU and the following items appread through logread; Dec 23 20:10:13 om-gta02 user.notice root: SQL logic error or missing database Unable to fetch row Dec 23 20:10:13 om-gta02 user.notice root: QContentEngine( Id: | Name: 10942 FileName: /media/card/Maps/osm/15/16898/10942.png MimeType: image/png DrmState: 0 Role: 1 IconName: LastUpdated: QDateTime (Mon Dec 22 17:21:12 2008) ) Dec 23 20:10:13 om-gta02 user.notice root: bool QSqlContentStore::insertContent(QContentEngine*, QtopiaDatabaseId) 237526629 insertQuery Dec 23 20:10:13 om-gta02 user.notice root: SQL logic error or missing database Unable to fetch row Dec 23 20:10:13 om-gta02 user.notice root: QContentEngine( Id: | Name: 10941 FileName: /media/card/Maps/osm/15/16898/10941.png MimeType: image/png DrmState: 0 Role: 1 IconName: LastUpdated: QDateTime(Mon Dec 22 17:21:06 2008) ) Dec 23 20:10:13 om-gta02 user.notice root: bool QSqlContentStore::insertContent(QContentEngine*, QtopiaDatabaseId) 237526629 insertQuery I haven't gone through the tickets yet but it is a strange phenomenon to me Hans [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner#Use_the_GPS http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GPS http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Howto_Test_Your_GPS_with_agpsui On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:37:10 + Jan Henkins j...@henkins.za.net wrote: Hello all, I hope somebody here might have an idea or two that might shed some light. I've trawled for HOWTO's and recipes on how to get the GPS working on my FR, but to no avail, none of them worked at all. In order to to some low-level testing to acertain whether I have a possible hardware problem or not, is there a way to check the GPS device for activity of some sort? I've left agpsui running for almost half a day (with GPS enabled in Settings of course), but I get no good fixes or any TTFF. The rest of the phone seems to be working OK, I manage to make/receive calls and SMS's reliably. I have even managed to sort-of stabilise 2008.12 with regards to suspend, and also managed to get Enlightenment to stop crashing all the time with Illume (thanks to Yaroslav's WIKI entry!). Any ideas how I can do some low-level testing on the GPS device? Thanks in advance! -- Regards, Jan Henkins ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Hans Zimmerman h...@everlasting.be ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
rakshat hooja wrote: Also if there are reports of 3G dongles working well with the Freerunner, please post them on this list/ wiki. Resellers can start stocking them if the demand is there. Rakshat AAH! I don't want to have to have a dongle, probably with a separate contract, in order to use 3G from my phone. That is the worst possible outcome for an openmoko data connection. I want my phone to BE my 3G dongle, so I have a decent smartphone with a good connection speed, good 3G coverage for calls AND can use the connection from my laptop, preferably via bluetooth. Screw it, I'll buy a mass produced android next time. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Stage-of-GTA03-development--tp1664400p1745374.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[omview] images not diplayed
Hi all, I'm running omview r32 on om-testing and trying to display some JPG pictures taken with a canon digicam in 2592x1944 resolution. The images are not displayed, only their names. Thumbnails are produced on startup as png-files. Here's the console output: r...@om-gta02:~# omview --ewl-evas-xrender-x11 --ewl-theme ewl_om connect(): No such file or directory connect(): No such file or directory connect(): No such file or directory connect(): No such file or directory connect(): No such file or directory Failed to connect to server mouse down 253x187 mouse down 130x331 exec 0 action mouse down 267x253 mouse down 247x514 mouse down 244x167 mouse down 273x68 mouse down 154x243 What's that server, the connection to which fails? Any ideas? - Marc ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
Sargun Dhillon wrote: Additionally, why are we expecting 3G from OM, they are having a hard time getting a phone right. Why are we holding them to the same standards as Apple, HTC, etc... Apple can't get 3G in the iPhone for two years. For which they were heavily criticised because smartphones (and not so smart phones) in Europe had had 3G for years. 3G is not a special feature any more, it's pretty basic in most handsets. The FR, with it's all-touchscreen interface and open nature *could* be forgiven for not having 3G. It's a shortcoming, but it's forgiveable when so much of the rest was at least near the state of the art - Linux, GPS, uSDHC etc. If 03 is released in a year or so without 3G it will have fallen way behind, especially as the touch screen control is no longer unusual. If the hardware is fixed at this point then, well, sorry, but OM ought to revise it. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Stage-of-GTA03-development--tp1664400p1752249.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.netwrote: rakshat hooja wrote: Also if there are reports of 3G dongles working well with the Freerunner, please post them on this list/ wiki. Resellers can start stocking them if the demand is there. Rakshat AAH! I don't want to have to have a dongle, probably with a separate contract, in order to use 3G from my phone. That is the worst possible outcome for an openmoko data connection. I want my phone to BE my 3G dongle, so I have a decent smartphone with a good connection speed, good 3G coverage for calls AND can use the connection from my laptop, preferably via bluetooth. Screw it, I'll buy a mass produced android next time. I am talking about GTA 02 and people who already own it and need to use 3G. GTA 02 does not have 3G built in sorry if if this was not clear in my mail Rakshat -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Stage-of-GTA03-development--tp1664400p1745374.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
rakshat hooja wrote: I am talking about GTA 02 and people who already own it and need to use 3G. GTA 02 does not have 3G built in sorry if if this was not clear in my mail Rakshat Sorry, thought you were suggesting it as a get-out-of-jail-free for OM and 3G on the 03. If you need it now then sure, that might be an idea. Personally, my focus on the FR is having a phone that works... -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Stage-of-GTA03-development--tp1664400p1758082.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Getting rid of Android
I Hate to tell you this, but you can try to format your sd card (just to fat32 or ext3) in another Linux box. Then, install another Linux distro in your openmoko... The problem as I see it is that your sd card has a lot of partitions right ? -Orlando. On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Kosa k...@piradio.org wrote: vsviri...@exceede.com escribió: Hello everyone, Is there a way to get rid of Android on my OpenMoko? For some reason I cannot re-flash anything anymore. I always get an error message from dfu-util, saying that the 'alternate rootfs unavailable' or something very similar. And when I do 'dfu-util -l' i get about 7 partitions, all of which are marked as UNKNOWN. You might want to try installing any other distro on the microsd and boot from it. Then you can use fdisk to remove those partitions and try again. Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - Thanks, Vasili. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- --- ing. Javier O. Ramírez Martínez Key fingerprint = CBFD AEC9 E7F9 C726 03BF 3D85 7B9E 47A7 EB84 70D4 http://linux.mty.itesm.mx/~oramirez http://picasaweb.google.com/javier.ramirez ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.12] Unusable due freezings?
Hi all! First of all, greetings for bring us OM 2008.12, it's probably one of the most great releases of OM (the boot in particular is rally cool!). Now, I flashed it yesterday, as follows: dfu-util -a kernel -R -D Om2008.12-om-gta02.uImage.bin dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin And all it's ok. GSM works, SMS also, GPS, ssh and internet (through USB) out of the box, etc etc. I installed illume theme as follows: /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop vi /etc/enlightment/default-profile Change it in -profile illume shutdown now And after changing Illume configs for Engine from SOFTWARE_16 to SOFTWARE it works very fine. BUT Sometimes, it appears almost randomly, OM 2008.12 freezes. It's a total blocking of the system, nothing works through touchscreen or ssh, and I'm forced to reboot. It could be while I'm using TangoGPS or while I'm pressing the answering button, when I talk or when I close a call. What do you think about this? I'll test OM 2008.12 for one or two days but, if this will continue, I will flash in SHR, in the hope it will increase the usability of the phone... but, it is a pity, OM 2008.12 with illume is really cool ;) -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Getting rid of Android
Orlando-13 wrote: I Hate to tell you this, but you can try to format your sd card (just to fat32 or ext3) in another Linux box. Then, install another Linux distro in your openmoko... The problem as I see it is that your sd card has a lot of partitions right ? -Orlando. Probably not actually, android (AFAICT) must be installed on the internal flash, not the SD, so content of the SD card is pretty irrelevant. I don't think I've ever tried to go back from android to another distro on my FR, so I can't help with the original question either. /I'm helping! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Getting-rid-of-Android-tp1702369p1762810.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Getting rid of Android
Yes, Android is flashed into the unit. SD Card contains 2 partitions as per Android requirements. The partitions i mention are showing up in dfu-util -l, which lists all the alternates available. (Normally uboot, kernel, rootfs, bootsplash, etc). But they all appear as UNKNOWN in the list. I cannot flash it using dfu-util even w/o the SD card present. Orlando-13 wrote: I Hate to tell you this, but you can try to format your sd card (just to fat32 or ext3) in another Linux box. Then, install another Linux distro in your openmoko... The problem as I see it is that your sd card has a lot of partitions right ? -Orlando. Probably not actually, android (AFAICT) must be installed on the internal flash, not the SD, so content of the SD card is pretty irrelevant. I don't think I've ever tried to go back from android to another distro on my FR, so I can't help with the original question either. /I'm helping! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Getting-rid-of-Android-tp1702369p1762810.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
www.opkg.org - Relaunch!
Dear Community, After hours of coding I can present you my little christmas gift for Openmoko and the whole community: The relaunch of www.opkg.org. The whole site was recoded. There is a new system and a shiny new design. These are the changes I made: New Design --- The old design wasn't very pretty. The new one is more professional and hopefully user friendlier than the old one. The best results you'll get on a resolution of 1280x1024 pixels. I'm sure there are some displaying bugs in other browsers than firefox or in other resolutions. If you find one, please drop me a line and I'll fix it ASAP. There are also some small goodies. For example all new packages since your last visit are highlighted in the overview. One note: Please remember that I don't speak English as first language. So I'm sure there are a lot of grammatically mistakes in the text. Please let me know that, so I can correct them. Improved member area --- If you are logged in, the member area are now appears on the homepage. You'll find a list of all your packages with useful links like «Edit» or «Restore older version». By the way, you now can delete your packages yourself. The API remains the same --- The API wasn't changed at all. So if you began to write an application using it, you don't have to change anything. It simply was ported to the new system - but the results it gives you, are the same than the old one. What you should change --- The URLs for the RSS-Feeds have changed. So please update the URL in your RSS-Reader. Furthermore I'm sure that not all updates since last Friday are correctly imported into the database. So please check the packages you updated since last Friday. What's next? --- There are some features I'd like to include in the future. First of all there's a repository I'd like to create. And maybe I'll include a feature where you can give the visitor information about the compatibility of your package. So you can say, yes, it works on OM2008.12 but not on FSO, for example. Maybe I'll have to change the category names too because there is some conversation on the mailing list about it. We'll see... Of course I'd like to implement your ideas as well. So please write me if you have a revolutionary idea. Please let me know http://www.opkg.org/contact.html what you think of the new site. I wish you all a merry Christmas, Tobias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: www.opkg.org - Relaunch!
On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:46:33 +0100 Tobias Kündig tobias.kuen...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Community, After hours of coding I can present you my little christmas gift for Openmoko and the whole community: The relaunch of www.opkg.org. The whole site was recoded. There is a new system and a shiny new design. Looks good. If you can however, make it fit to width on smaller resolutions as well. Some of us are still using the legacy 1024x768 : ). Merry christmas as well! Yogiz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
New on screen Keyboard for Hackable1 and Debian written in Python
Hello, I've created a new on screen keyboard for the Freerunner. I designed it for Hackable1. I tried to make it as finger friendly as possible and use as much screen space for buttons. I've only been working on it for one day but it's pretty usable. Like Hackable1, it's still a little ruff around the edges. Here is a link to the script http://www.filmsbykris.com/freerunner-debian/ko-keypad/ko-keypad you need to have xautomation installed (apt-get install xautomation) If can install xautomation on om2008 then this keyboard shouldl work on it aswell It's hard to describe my keyboard but I'll give it a try The keyboard is a 12 button keypad. Each character takes 2 keypresses. instead of the normal keypad like on your cellphone where you have to press each key 3 or 4 time to type one letter and then you end up passing the letter you want and have to hit the key 3 or 4 more times and you have to wait if 2 letter you want are on the same button. This keypad will change all 12 keys to the characters on the button you choose. there is a Space button on each key and if you hit the wrong key there is a blank button next to the space key to back out. keys are sent to a temp line before you add them to the final line (but any thing in the temp line when sending keys will be add) ---todo list--- 1) backspace button 2) create list for drop combo box of last 25 or 50 things typed 3) make the sending of keys a little more efficient I would really love some feed back Like I said, it's still a little ruff around the edges. Kris ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New on screen Keyboard for Hackable1 and Debian written in Python
Interesting! can you provide a screenshot? thanks! d On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 8:44 PM, kris Occhipinti metalx2...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I've created a new on screen keyboard for the Freerunner. I designed it for Hackable1. I tried to make it as finger friendly as possible and use as much screen space for buttons. I've only been working on it for one day but it's pretty usable. Like Hackable1, it's still a little ruff around the edges. Here is a link to the script http://www.filmsbykris.com/freerunner-debian/ko-keypad/ko-keypad you need to have xautomation installed (apt-get install xautomation) If can install xautomation on om2008 then this keyboard shouldl work on it aswell It's hard to describe my keyboard but I'll give it a try The keyboard is a 12 button keypad. Each character takes 2 keypresses. instead of the normal keypad like on your cellphone where you have to press each key 3 or 4 time to type one letter and then you end up passing the letter you want and have to hit the key 3 or 4 more times and you have to wait if 2 letter you want are on the same button. This keypad will change all 12 keys to the characters on the button you choose. there is a Space button on each key and if you hit the wrong key there is a blank button next to the space key to back out. keys are sent to a temp line before you add them to the final line (but any thing in the temp line when sending keys will be add) ---todo list--- 1) backspace button 2) create list for drop combo box of last 25 or 50 things typed 3) make the sending of keys a little more efficient I would really love some feed back Like I said, it's still a little ruff around the edges. Kris ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Call Forwarding on 2008.12
what can i do Call Forwarding feature? Very necessary function for phone!! example gsm codes for it http://www.geckobeach.com/cellular/secrets/gsmcodes.php -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Call-Forwarding-on-2008.12-tp1786743p1786743.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
blank screen over a time or aux button 2008.12
in asu theme + illume i not found preference button in left up of screen :( im probe decompile and parse asu theme, but nothing found -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/blank-screen-over-a-time-or-aux-button-2008.12-tp1786924p1786924.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New on screen Keyboard for Hackable1 and Debian written in Python
Here is a link to the script http://www.filmsbykris.com/freerunner-debian/ko-keypad/ko-keypad you need to have xautomation installed (apt-get install xautomation) If can install xautomation on om2008 then this keyboard shouldl work on it aswell Hi I've tried to start it on a FR running Debian with matchbox window manager. Unfortunately it started fullscreen (because by default matchbox starts any 'normal' app fullscreen), and was not usable because of that. Any way to make it starting in 'out-of-workspace' area, as matchbox-keyboard does? Nikita ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.12] Editing numbers, in contacts for instance
Just flashed to 2008.12. Fast booting and responsive user interaction, great! However, I noticed there is only a simple keyboard available. While I was trying to edit data in the Contacts app there is no way to enter numbers... only 26 characters (a-z) are available. Any hints are welcome to get this keyboard puzzle resolved. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Getting rid of Android
how about the nor uboot? same list? On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 8:41 PM, vsviri...@exceede.com wrote: Yes, Android is flashed into the unit. SD Card contains 2 partitions as per Android requirements. The partitions i mention are showing up in dfu-util -l, which lists all the alternates available. (Normally uboot, kernel, rootfs, bootsplash, etc). But they all appear as UNKNOWN in the list. I cannot flash it using dfu-util even w/o the SD card present. Orlando-13 wrote: I Hate to tell you this, but you can try to format your sd card (just to fat32 or ext3) in another Linux box. Then, install another Linux distro in your openmoko... The problem as I see it is that your sd card has a lot of partitions right ? -Orlando. Probably not actually, android (AFAICT) must be installed on the internal flash, not the SD, so content of the SD card is pretty irrelevant. I don't think I've ever tried to go back from android to another distro on my FR, so I can't help with the original question either. /I'm helping! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Getting-rid-of-Android-tp1702369p1762810.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Release illume-keyboards-dutch-nl
HI all, See http://www.opkg.org/package_75.html Rasterman, can I send you the .tar.gz with 'sources' for you to add to enlightenment svn? It has some files which need to be in the Illume base package, see README-dutch-nl Merry Christmas, Pander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
merry christmas
merry christmas (now in italy is 00:00) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: merry christmas
You 2 (and everybody else also) May the new year bring loads of fun and applications to OpenMoko! Cheers guys (and girls) On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 11:59 PM, Carlo Minucci ge...@napodano.com wrote: merry christmas (now in italy is 00:00) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Release illume-keyboards-dutch-nl
Yorick Moko wrote: Hi Pander, The link to the README-dutch-nl doesn't work That is correct, please see that file on your system after installing the IPK file. I've updated the description on http://opkg.org On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 11:35 PM, Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: HI all, See http://www.opkg.org/package_75.html Rasterman, can I send you the .tar.gz with 'sources' for you to add to enlightenment svn? It has some files which need to be in the Illume base package, see README-dutch-nl Merry Christmas, Pander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: merry christmas
There are female OpenMoko users? Where? :-P In a slightly more politically correct way: Happy holidays! (It's only 15:47 here, PST8PDT) On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Marc Verwerft marc.js.verwe...@gmail.com wrote: You 2 (and everybody else also) May the new year bring loads of fun and applications to OpenMoko! Cheers guys (and girls) On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 11:59 PM, Carlo Minucci ge...@napodano.com wrote: merry christmas (now in italy is 00:00) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: merry christmas
Merry Cristmas - Buon Natale - Craciun Fericit to you all ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: www.opkg.org - Relaunch!
Very nice indeed! Thanks for this christmas present! Merry Christmas to you all. 2008/12/25 Yogiz yog...@gmail.com On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 18:46:33 +0100 Tobias Kündig tobias.kuen...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Community, After hours of coding I can present you my little christmas gift for Openmoko and the whole community: The relaunch of www.opkg.org. The whole site was recoded. There is a new system and a shiny new design. Looks good. If you can however, make it fit to width on smaller resolutions as well. Some of us are still using the legacy 1024x768 : ). Merry christmas as well! Yogiz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Harald Zophon Zophoniasson www.zophon.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
Man, I really don't care for 3G. I don't know if the GTA03 is going to be slated on a production-quality phone, but for development purposes, and as a device which I can use as a general purpose embedded projects base, 3G doesn't matter. If I want data speeds, I'm going to veer away from GSM, as GSM speeds will not touch CDMA providers (at least in the USA). I'd like a user-upgradeable model, but in the end it doesn't really matter. I'd prefer a cheaper, better quality phone, that comes out soon. On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 6:12 AM, Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net wrote: rakshat hooja wrote: I am talking about GTA 02 and people who already own it and need to use 3G. GTA 02 does not have 3G built in sorry if if this was not clear in my mail Rakshat Sorry, thought you were suggesting it as a get-out-of-jail-free for OM and 3G on the 03. If you need it now then sure, that might be an idea. Personally, my focus on the FR is having a phone that works... -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Stage-of-GTA03-development--tp1664400p1758082.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New on screen Keyboard for Hackable1 and Debian written in Python
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 3:40 PM, Nikita V. Youshchenko yo...@debian.orgwrote: Here is a link to the script http://www.filmsbykris.com/freerunner-debian/ko-keypad/ko-keypad you need to have xautomation installed (apt-get install xautomation) If can install xautomation on om2008 then this keyboard shouldl work on it aswell Hi I've tried to start it on a FR running Debian with matchbox window manager. Unfortunately it started fullscreen (because by default matchbox starts any 'normal' app fullscreen), and was not usable because of that. Any way to make it starting in 'out-of-workspace' area, as matchbox-keyboard does? Nikita ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community It's suppose to be fullscreen. even with that option off in matchbox I have it set to go full screen. You type a line out then hit send or enter + send When you hit send it closes the keyboard and pastes the sentence in the application. (it does this with xte which is part of the xautomation package) If anyone has had a Nokia N800 it's kinda like that. Here are some screenshots http://filmsbykris.com/freerunner-debian/ko-keypad/Screenshot-1.png http://filmsbykris.com/freerunner-debian/ko-keypad/Screenshot-2.png http://filmsbykris.com/freerunner-debian/ko-keypad/Screenshot-3.png ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: merry christmas
Sargun Dhillon ha scritto: There are female OpenMoko users? Where? :-P ahahahah ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stage of GTA03 development?
On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 05:19:02 -0800 (PST) Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net babbled: Sargun Dhillon wrote: Additionally, why are we expecting 3G from OM, they are having a hard time getting a phone right. Why are we holding them to the same standards as Apple, HTC, etc... Apple can't get 3G in the iPhone for two years. For which they were heavily criticised because smartphones (and not so smart phones) in Europe had had 3G for years. 3G is not a special feature any more, it's pretty basic in most handsets. The FR, with it's all-touchscreen interface and open nature *could* be forgiven for not having 3G. It's a shortcoming, but it's forgiveable when so much of the rest was at least near the state of the art - Linux, GPS, uSDHC etc. actually the cpu (soc) and graphics are about as old-school as the 2g gprs. :) definitely far from state of the art. only things on freerunner that are modern are: LCD GPS Wifi BT case design (sorry the indented screen is very old-school and severely limits the finger-usability of the device - which as it has no stylus that is part of it... is the intended use). :) the rest.. is far behind. :) just trying to keep rumourmill from making it seem better than it is... :) If 03 is released in a year or so without 3G it will have fallen way behind, especially as the touch screen control is no longer unusual. If the hardware is fixed at this point then, well, sorry, but OM ought to revise it. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Stage-of-GTA03-development--tp1664400p1752249.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] Editing numbers, in contacts for instance
Hi, try to scroll up and down on the keyboard, then you will have numbers or symbols. check here:http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8_Keyboard Wendy On Thursday 25 December 2008 04:58:57 Ivo van den Maagdenberg wrote: Just flashed to 2008.12. Fast booting and responsive user interaction, great! However, I noticed there is only a simple keyboard available. While I was trying to edit data in the Contacts app there is no way to enter numbers... only 26 characters (a-z) are available. Any hints are welcome to get this keyboard puzzle resolved. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO/SHR/debian] SMS location app
I've started an app to help find lost or borrowed Freerunners. It watches for specially formatted SMSs and when it sees the right one it SMSs back its location. Put [1] in /usr/bin/ Put [2] int /etc/init.d/ chmod +x /etc/init.d/sms-sentry.sh ln -s /etc/init.d/sms-sentry /etc/rc5.d/S99sms-sentry reboot Now whenever you text sentry:location to your Freerunner it will return its lat and lan ( and altitude if available ). It may take minutes for the return SMS if the GPS is not active when the incoming SMS arrives. [1] http://handheldshell.com/sms-sentry [2] http://handheldshell.com/sms-sentry.sh -- Angus Ainslie http://www.handheldshell.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO/SHR/debian] SMS location app
On Dec 25, 2008, at 12:33 AM, Angus Ainslie wrote: I've started an app to help find lost or borrowed Freerunners. It watches for specially formatted SMSs and when it sees the right one it SMSs back its location. Now this is just brilliant! Good work, and thank you. (d) --- Damian A. Spriggs Writer: Weekly World Shrew http://www.weeklyworldshrew.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
