Re: Openmoko keyboard mockup
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 5:11:45 am Stefan Monnier wrote: [1] - which is ironic given that they were invented to encourage people to publish their ideas rather than keep them secret. Actually, not so ironic: it basically means that rather than keeping them as internal secrets, they get to lock them in a government-provided vault. Where everyone can read them and the protection expires after a time. Don't get me wrong, I think patents are bad, especially these days where the techniques are often obsolete before the patent expires. :-( -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: for sale: openmoko phone
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 9:36:39 am jamal wrote: So, dumb question: whats the s/ware fix? The following (undocumented) AT command to the GSM modem: AT%N0187 -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MP3 to OGG converter
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 8:44:07 am François TOURDE wrote: There is also oggconvert, from the eponym debian package. Plus dir2ogg (also in Debian and Ubuntu): Description: audio file converter into ogg-vorbis format dir2ogg converts MP3, M4A, WMA, FLAC, WAV files and Audio CDs to the open-source OGG format. . It is a Python script that simply binds together the various decoders and oggenc making it easier for the user to convert his/her music files. It also supports ID3 tags. Homepage: http://jak-linux.org/projects/dir2ogg/ -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 5:47 AM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net wrote: In the latest months the enlightenment world has got many updates, but unfortunately the distros available for the FR don't provide the latest versions of the E stack. This is quite normal since they have to share a tested environment, but it makes so hard to use the latest tools (also because the e libs have frequent changes). That's why today I've given to my Toolchain another challenge :P: compiling E from svn (but following the OE bitbakes configurations)... For your information, Raster has the kindness now and then to keep us (the SHR team) in touch and to give us information on which version of e-wm we should build. If you try unstable, it's generally close to HEAD, but sometimes HEAD doesn't compile, or generates problems. For a time it was UTF8 not being handled. These days it's the dictionnary being slow as hell. Don't worry, as soon as a stabler version will hit the ground, we'll ship with it. -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MD5 checksums for images
On Mon, January 12, 2009 9:13 pm, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 06:46:35PM +0100, Fernando Martins wrote: I've downloaded images for om2008.12, FSO and SHR and something that puzzles me is the lack of MD5 checksums on these repositories. The sums would just take a couple of minutes to put there, so I'm wondering if there is some other check going on by dfu before flashing?? Whoever cares about MD5 checksums, nowadays, is putting up a farse, at least demand SHA256 ;) The point of MD5 checksums is to check for download errors, truncated files or the repository maintainer uploading the wrong file somehow. It is not to protect us from black hats who might somehow replace a correct image with a malware infected one. (If they are able to do that, they can replace the md5sums file a the same time). Anyway, MD5 sum checking is done automaticaly in many tools, and most people are familiar with the commands to check MD5 sums, so if the images come with MD5 sums they will be checked easily. If they come with another sort of checksum, it will be harder to check, for no real benefit. -- David Pottage Error compiling committee.c To many arguments to function. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MD5 checksums for images
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Pottage schrieb: On Mon, January 12, 2009 9:13 pm, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 06:46:35PM +0100, Fernando Martins wrote: I've downloaded images for om2008.12, FSO and SHR and something that puzzles me is the lack of MD5 checksums on these repositories. The sums would just take a couple of minutes to put there, so I'm wondering if there is some other check going on by dfu before flashing?? Whoever cares about MD5 checksums, nowadays, is putting up a farse, at least demand SHA256 ;) The point of MD5 checksums is to check for download errors, truncated files or the repository maintainer uploading the wrong file somehow. It is not to protect us from black hats who might somehow replace a correct image with a malware infected one. (If they are able to do that, they can replace the md5sums file a the same time). Anyway, MD5 sum checking is done automaticaly in many tools, and most people are familiar with the commands to check MD5 sums, so if the images come with MD5 sums they will be checked easily. If they come with another sort of checksum, it will be harder to check, for no real benefit. i think, md5 is enough, but sha256 is better (it's a smaller possibility that there is a hash double, but when would this happend? :p) there is enough space and the prozessors are fast, so why didn't use sha256? - -- Vinzenz Hersche Lehrling 2. Lehrjahr Puzzle ITC GmbH www.puzzle.ch Telefon +41 31 370 22 00 Direkt +41 31 370 22 04 Mobile +41 78 845 24 12 Fax +41 31 370 22 01 Puzzle ist Mitglied der Eclipse Foundation: http://www.puzzle.ch/eclipse/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklsWpoACgkQK9d7OHUJmA5hQACfRUHgz2LUuIO5+G5EJyrU4ZB/ jvMAni6nY/YbfGpa4Wqvm6mytWuNf7wf =YSRv -END PGP SIGNATURE- begin:vcard fn:Vinzenz Hersche n:Hersche;Vinzenz email;internet:hers...@puzzle.ch tel;home:033 336 20 56 tel;cell:077 447 73 74 x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
orrery, $LANG, numbers format : bad numbers make orrery crash.
Hi folks, here is my problem : #echo $LANG fr_FR.UTF-8 #orrery -d /usr/share/orrery/ Wrong number (1) of numbers found on line 1 of /usr/share/orrery//orbitalElements/mercuryElements Ok so let's check this file, assuming bad packaging is unlikely to happen... #cat /usr/share/orrery/orbitalElements/mercuryElements 0.38709927 0.20563593 7.00497902252.25032350 77.45779628 48.33076593 0.0037 0.1906 -0.00594749 149472.67411175 0.16047689 -0.12534081 0.38709843 0.20563661 7.00559432252.25166724 77.45771895 48.33961819 0. 0.2123 -0.00590158 149472.67486623 0.15940013 -0.12214182 0. 0. 0. 0. But '.' (point) is a decimal delimiter in english cultural settings. We french use ',' (comma) #LANG=C orrery -d /usr/share/orrery/ It works. Does someone have an idea to avoid the overriding of $LANG on the fly for this specific application ? A config file to tweak ? Best regards, Xavier Cremaschi. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: which SHR image
Thomas Franck wrote: Helge Hafting wrote: [an excellent and helpful text] Wow.. that was thorough... Thank you for that - although I'm past that stage it was very good to read.. Maybe one more thing to ask (as I have no clue): Do you happen to know the difference between the unstable and testing images of SHR..? Not completely sure, but I guess this is like debian: testing: Reasonably rested, but not necessarily release quality. unstable: Newer stuff than in testing. This is where you find the very latest stuff, but untested. Sometimes, unstable stuff doesn't work. So you can test it to see what is coming, but be prepared to revert to testing or some earlier unstable image if it fails badly. Not what you want for a quick upgrade of your daily phone. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Conflict when several apps use the accelerometers?
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Hi, omnewrotate is quite blind to what is running. If you have an application which uses accelerometers you are much better off not running omnewrotate at the same time, regardless of solving the monopolization problem. Imagine it is solved: If the application uses the accelerometers then you may have some problems when you hit a position where it thinks it should rotate the screen. I can imagine how this would be a problem with Pingus, for instance. I plan to have a toggling script for use in the desktop icon, instead of a starter script. This is the sort of thing that might be useful to have on the illume top shelf. autototate on/off, and rotate now when auto is off. Rotation is useful with maps. It depends on what the region look like. Also, it is easier to but the phone down on the long edge in a car. I can see how autorotation would be a problem in a game. Pingus works in either orientation, but several guys walk of the cliffs while the screen repaints. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [fso]is there any way to accesswifi eitherthrough the ui? the shell?
depends, what fso using distribution you finally ended up with (shr, 2008.12, debian). with debian the usual wireless tools should be available, if not installed already: apt-get install wireless-tools as for a browser: with debian midori is a good choice imho, else there'S also links2 which operates in both text and graphics mode. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Conflict when several apps use the accelerometers?
Hi all, I plan to have a toggling script for use in the desktop icon, instead of a starter script. This is the sort of thing that might be useful to have on the illume top shelf. autototate on/off, and rotate now when auto is off. Rotation is useful with maps. It depends on what the region look like. Also, it is easier to but the phone down on the long edge in a car. I can see how autorotation would be a problem in a game. Pingus works in either orientation, but several guys walk of the cliffs while the screen repaints. to my opinion the default auto-rotation software should have some signaling mechanism that keeps it from doing it's job while a certain software is active. You can experience this with the later versions of MPlayer. It tells the Screensaver not to activate during movie playback. I figure the screensaver modules of Desktop-Manager must have appropriate interfaces to accomplish that behaviour. For example if a program would like to gain exclusive control over the accelerometers it could create a certain file (e.g. /var/run/donotrotate_illdoitmyself). The default rotation software checks for this file and while the file exists it loosen it's grip of the meters. This would solve the issue of concurrent access too. As far as I know the file could be created in a way so that even when the software crashes completely it is removed and therefore allow the original rotation-software to reactivate reliably. Regards thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Conflict when several apps use the accelerometers?
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:00:02AM +0100, Helge Hafting wrote: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Hi, omnewrotate is quite blind to what is running. If you have an application which uses accelerometers you are much better off not running omnewrotate at the same time, regardless of solving the monopolization problem. Imagine it is solved: If the application uses the accelerometers then you may have some problems when you hit a position where it thinks it should rotate the screen. I can imagine how this would be a problem with Pingus, for instance. I plan to have a toggling script for use in the desktop icon, instead of a starter script. This is the sort of thing that might be useful to have on the illume top shelf. autototate on/off, and rotate now when auto is off. Rotation is useful with maps. It depends on what the region look like. Also, it is easier to but the phone down on the long edge in a car. I can see how autorotation would be a problem in a game. Pingus works in either orientation, but several guys walk of the cliffs while the screen repaints. oy! more ./configure compilation options comin' right up (well, not right up as I don't know how to program with efl yet... but nothing like writing a small module to learn it, hey?) Rui -- Keep the Lasagna flying! Today is Pungenday, the 13th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2008.9] runaway proc events/0 automatic reboot
Hello, I've investigated this run-away problem deeper and now have a small shell script which monitors the proc 'events/0' in the way that all 600 seconds the CPU time consumed in the last 600 seconds is compared against 2 (normally it is 0 or 1 sec, but if 'events/0' it is a big jump to some hundred); the script can be found in http://www.unixarea.de/monEvents.sh and if the situation occurs the script monEvents.sh calls a Python script '/home/root/sys/shuttdown.py', can be found in http://www.unixarea.de/shuttdown.py which offers the user the option to re-boot (which is better than running out of battery, I think); ofc, this is only a hack and OM should fix that 'events/0' issue asap; Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ SPAMer of the year: Subject: Alle Software ist Deutsche Sprachen From: -40 % die Neujahrsaktion gabriellekel...@grungecafe.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: which SHR image
Helge, would you be so kind as to copy your text somewhere on the wiki? :-) -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: orrery, $LANG, numbers format : bad numbers make orrery crash.
just change the desktop file? exec=LANG=C orrery -d /usr/share/orrery/ ? On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks, here is my problem : #echo $LANG fr_FR.UTF-8 #orrery -d /usr/share/orrery/ Wrong number (1) of numbers found on line 1 of /usr/share/orrery//orbitalElements/mercuryElements Ok so let's check this file, assuming bad packaging is unlikely to happen... #cat /usr/share/orrery/orbitalElements/mercuryElements 0.38709927 0.20563593 7.00497902252.25032350 77.45779628 48.33076593 0.0037 0.1906 -0.00594749 149472.67411175 0.16047689 -0.12534081 0.38709843 0.20563661 7.00559432252.25166724 77.45771895 48.33961819 0. 0.2123 -0.00590158 149472.67486623 0.15940013 -0.12214182 0. 0. 0. 0. But '.' (point) is a decimal delimiter in english cultural settings. We french use ',' (comma) #LANG=C orrery -d /usr/share/orrery/ It works. Does someone have an idea to avoid the overriding of $LANG on the fly for this specific application ? A config file to tweak ? Best regards, Xavier Cremaschi. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Conflict when several apps use the accelerometers?
i'm just responding to confirm that some apps also don't work correctly with omnewrotate installed mokoeightball is one of them; after installing omnewrotate and rebooting, shaking the phone does not work with mokoeightball apps like the ledclock (http://www.opkg.org/package_104.html) displays by default in landscape mode, but turning the phone to landscape makes the teks adapt itself and displays in normal mode On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:36:29AM +0100, Thomas Otterbein wrote: Hi all, I plan to have a toggling script for use in the desktop icon, instead of a starter script. This is the sort of thing that might be useful to have on the illume top shelf. autototate on/off, and rotate now when auto is off. Rotation is useful with maps. It depends on what the region look like. Also, it is easier to but the phone down on the long edge in a car. I can see how autorotation would be a problem in a game. Pingus works in either orientation, but several guys walk of the cliffs while the screen repaints. to my opinion the default auto-rotation software should have some signaling mechanism that keeps it from doing it's job while a certain software is active. You can experience this with the later versions of MPlayer. It tells the Screensaver not to activate during movie playback. I figure the screensaver modules of Desktop-Manager must have appropriate interfaces to accomplish that behaviour. Yes, I'm thinking of catching SIGUSR1 for that. Anything that wants to toggle it just pkill -USR1 omnewrotate in the near future. Rui -- Grudnuk demand sustenance! Today is Pungenday, the 13th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Conflict when several apps use the accelerometers?
small correction; in ledclock one can override the rotation On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: i'm just responding to confirm that some apps also don't work correctly with omnewrotate installed mokoeightball is one of them; after installing omnewrotate and rebooting, shaking the phone does not work with mokoeightball apps like the ledclock (http://www.opkg.org/package_104.html) displays by default in landscape mode, but turning the phone to landscape makes the teks adapt itself and displays in normal mode On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:36:29AM +0100, Thomas Otterbein wrote: Hi all, I plan to have a toggling script for use in the desktop icon, instead of a starter script. This is the sort of thing that might be useful to have on the illume top shelf. autototate on/off, and rotate now when auto is off. Rotation is useful with maps. It depends on what the region look like. Also, it is easier to but the phone down on the long edge in a car. I can see how autorotation would be a problem in a game. Pingus works in either orientation, but several guys walk of the cliffs while the screen repaints. to my opinion the default auto-rotation software should have some signaling mechanism that keeps it from doing it's job while a certain software is active. You can experience this with the later versions of MPlayer. It tells the Screensaver not to activate during movie playback. I figure the screensaver modules of Desktop-Manager must have appropriate interfaces to accomplish that behaviour. Yes, I'm thinking of catching SIGUSR1 for that. Anything that wants to toggle it just pkill -USR1 omnewrotate in the near future. Rui -- Grudnuk demand sustenance! Today is Pungenday, the 13th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] runaway proc events/0 automatic reboot
Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de writes: ofc, this is only a hack and OM should fix that 'events/0' issue asap; If you read http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//1597 you'll see that it vanished in the andy-tracking branch when wlan stuff was migrated to different SDIO stack. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Pulster fixes (was: Re: buzz fix)
Le mardi 13 janvier 2009 à 09:20 +0200, Christoph Pulster a écrit : Hello, thanks for asking about hardware fixes (I read this list daily). At the moment I'm working out a solution with Openmoko how to handle any repair (buzz SOP, GPS fix etc). In any way I want to offer my customers best service and we try to find a solution which does avoid time-consuming return shipments to Taiwan. Please allow us some days to work that out. Christoph www.pulster.eu Openmoko Shop Thanks for your support. I'll look forward from you on this topic. Count me in as one of the customer that plan to have a FR upgraded if price sound nice. best regards -- Alexandre ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] runaway proc events/0 automatic reboot
El día Tuesday, January 13, 2009 a las 02:10:14PM +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors escribió: Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de writes: ofc, this is only a hack and OM should fix that 'events/0' issue asap; If you read http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//1597 you'll see that it vanished in the andy-tracking branch when wlan stuff was migrated to different SDIO stack. I know this ticket and there is a lot of chatting in it; I'm not even sure if the ticket matches my situation because this morning, for example, I had a run-away events/0 *without* having enabled WLAN at all since the last boot and I never suspend my FR and it was up some 12h only; perhaps there are more o complexer situations cuasing that problem :-( matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ SPAMer of the year: Subject: Alle Software ist Deutsche Sprachen From: -40 % die Neujahrsaktion gabriellekel...@grungecafe.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] GPS from python
you might want to read the thread http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td786643 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster fixes (was: Re: buzz fix)
/signed me2 thanks for that service Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:16:05 +0100 Von: Alexandre Ghisoli a...@ghisoli.ch An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Pulster fixes (was: Re: buzz fix) Le mardi 13 janvier 2009 à 09:20 +0200, Christoph Pulster a écrit : Hello, thanks for asking about hardware fixes (I read this list daily). At the moment I'm working out a solution with Openmoko how to handle any repair (buzz SOP, GPS fix etc). In any way I want to offer my customers best service and we try to find a solution which does avoid time-consuming return shipments to Taiwan. Please allow us some days to work that out. Christoph www.pulster.eu Openmoko Shop Thanks for your support. I'll look forward from you on this topic. Count me in as one of the customer that plan to have a FR upgraded if price sound nice. best regards -- Alexandre ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Sensationsangebot verlängert: GMX FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 16,37 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K1308T4569a ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] runaway proc events/0 automatic reboot
Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de writes: only; perhaps there are more o complexer situations cuasing that problem :-( In any case, try compiling linux from andy-tracking branch. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] runaway proc events/0 automatic reboot
On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 13:22 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Tuesday, January 13, 2009 a las 02:10:14PM +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors escribió: Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de writes: ofc, this is only a hack and OM should fix that 'events/0' issue asap; If you read http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//1597 you'll see that it vanished in the andy-tracking branch when wlan stuff was migrated to different SDIO stack. I know this ticket and there is a lot of chatting in it; I'm not even sure if the ticket matches my situation because this morning, for example, I had a run-away events/0 *without* having enabled WLAN at all since the last boot and I never suspend my FR and it was up some 12h only; perhaps there are more o complexer situations cuasing that problem :-( matthias For me the events/0 runaway usually happens some time after using GPS (quite often), and only rarely after using wifi. BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] runaway proc events/0 automatic reboot
El día Tuesday, January 13, 2009 a las 10:16:16PM +0900, William Kenworthy escribió: I know this ticket and there is a lot of chatting in it; I'm not even sure if the ticket matches my situation because this morning, for example, I had a run-away events/0 *without* having enabled WLAN at all since the last boot and I never suspend my FR and it was up some 12h only; perhaps there are more o complexer situations cuasing that problem :-( matthias For me the events/0 runaway usually happens some time after using GPS (quite often), and only rarely after using wifi. I've rebooted my FR last evening; after this I have only made phone calls (no GPS, no GPRS, no Wifi); I'm using my FR as daily phone and as part of it as wake-up-clock at 6 in the morning; today the runaway occured short after the wake-up RING of 'clock'. matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ SPAMer of the year: Subject: Alle Software ist Deutsche Sprachen From: -40 % die Neujahrsaktion gabriellekel...@grungecafe.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] runaway proc events/0 automatic reboot
William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au writes: For me the events/0 runaway usually happens some time after using GPS (quite often), and only rarely after using wifi. That sounds very odd since GPS accessed over serial port, kernel does not have any support special support for GPS. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Conflict when several apps use the accelerometers?
Yes, ledclock works fine if you disable rotation. On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 01:08:24PM +0100, Yorick Moko wrote: small correction; in ledclock one can override the rotation On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: i'm just responding to confirm that some apps also don't work correctly with omnewrotate installed mokoeightball is one of them; after installing omnewrotate and rebooting, shaking the phone does not work with mokoeightball apps like the ledclock (http://www.opkg.org/package_104.html) displays by default in landscape mode, but turning the phone to landscape makes the teks adapt itself and displays in normal mode On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:36:29AM +0100, Thomas Otterbein wrote: Hi all, I plan to have a toggling script for use in the desktop icon, instead of a starter script. This is the sort of thing that might be useful to have on the illume top shelf. autototate on/off, and rotate now when auto is off. Rotation is useful with maps. It depends on what the region look like. Also, it is easier to but the phone down on the long edge in a car. I can see how autorotation would be a problem in a game. Pingus works in either orientation, but several guys walk of the cliffs while the screen repaints. to my opinion the default auto-rotation software should have some signaling mechanism that keeps it from doing it's job while a certain software is active. You can experience this with the later versions of MPlayer. It tells the Screensaver not to activate during movie playback. I figure the screensaver modules of Desktop-Manager must have appropriate interfaces to accomplish that behaviour. Yes, I'm thinking of catching SIGUSR1 for that. Anything that wants to toggle it just pkill -USR1 omnewrotate in the near future. Rui -- Grudnuk demand sustenance! Today is Pungenday, the 13th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Grudnuk demand sustenance! Today is Pungenday, the 13th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My solution (was: Car Charger?)
Hi all, After talking with Christoph from Pulster we thought I'd share my car holder solution to everyone :) Attached you can find the photos of my car holder. Basically, the whole thing did only cost me 5€ (~3 USD), but I had to modify it slightly for the FR (explanation bellow). I bought it from a local store here in Spain, called El Corte Inglés. Basically, it's a cheap mobile holder which you can get in every store and which is attached to the air duct covers. The problem I had was that the FR has it's buttons and USB port at the bottom and the holder comes designed to hold the mobile at the bottom ;) It has two pieces: One that attaches to the car, and the other which holds the mobile. I just flipped the whole thing over, so it holds the FR at the top. But then with the vibrations it would come off so I just glued the two pieces together. (Photos will explain what I mean :P) [1] [2] [3] [1] http://www.relamp.tk/freerunner/100_0014.jpg [2] http://www.relamp.tk/freerunner/100_0015.jpg [3] http://www.relamp.tk/freerunner/100_0018.jpg -- Benedikt www.relamp.tk This e-mail is digitally signed by a PGP key, to verify it's authenticity. If you received this e-mail without key the e-mail may not be authentic. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulster fixes (was: Re: buzz fix)
On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 13:27 +0100, steffen.li...@gmx.de wrote: /signed me2 thanks for that service Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:16:05 +0100 Von: Alexandre Ghisoli a...@ghisoli.ch An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Pulster fixes (was: Re: buzz fix) Le mardi 13 janvier 2009 à 09:20 +0200, Christoph Pulster a écrit : Hello, thanks for asking about hardware fixes (I read this list daily). At the moment I'm working out a solution with Openmoko how to handle any repair (buzz SOP, GPS fix etc). In any way I want to offer my customers best service and we try to find a solution which does avoid time-consuming return shipments to Taiwan. Please allow us some days to work that out. Hi Christoph, Thanks for that, and as others said, count me in if the price is right :) Benedikt Christoph www.pulster.eu Openmoko Shop Thanks for your support. I'll look forward from you on this topic. Count me in as one of the customer that plan to have a FR upgraded if price sound nice. best regards -- Alexandre ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My solution (was: Car Charger?)
The problem I had was that the FR has it's buttons and USB port at the bottom and the holder comes designed to hold the mobile at the bottom ;) It has two pieces: One that attaches to the car, and the other which holds the mobile. I just flipped the whole thing over, so it holds the FR at the top. But then with the vibrations it would come off so I just glued the two pieces together. It would be nice to ask X11 to rotate everything 180 degrees. Then the top of the Openmoko would become the bottom. Sounds like a good application of the accelerometer to me. md -- Jon maddog Hall Executive Director Linux International(R) email: mad...@li.org 80 Amherst St. Voice: +1.603.672.4557 Amherst, N.H. 03031-3032 U.S.A. WWW: http://www.li.org Board Member: Uniforum Association Board Member Emeritus: USENIX Association (2000-2006) (R)Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds in several countries. (R)Linux International is a registered trademark in the USA used pursuant to a license from Linux Mark Institute, authorized licensor of Linus Torvalds, owner of the Linux trademark on a worldwide basis (R)UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group in the USA and other countries. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello Christoph, Could you please also make an offer for the hardware buzz fix in DE: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP_rc2.pdf Would be great! Thx I am kind of not understanding why the OM team is not helping on this potential solution to finally bring the GTA02 to real real life. I mean, it was OK to find out resellers for the phone around the world, but now when it comes to make it daily phone specially with potential solution like this :confused: I think they can help us (no electronic DIY specialists) finding places to apply those fixes (buzz, bass, ...) Even the frequent community updates are not referring to this point which is very important !! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/buzz-fix-%28was%3A-Pulster-offer---Freerunner-now-249-eur%29-tp2141213p2151448.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
I am kind of not understanding why the OM team is not helping on this PLEASE, STOP THAT IMMEDIATELY AND READ THE ARCHIVES! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid networking question
Sadly, this doesn't work on my suse (/etc/sysconfig/...) based system. depeje On Thursday 08 January 2009 12:58:09 Thomas Otterbein wrote: FYI: On my kubuntu (ubuntu with KDE installed by default) using the KDE NetworkManager I followed the advices on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#Debian.2C_Ubuntu_and_others but insereted auto usb0 into /etc/network/interfaces as suggested by arne. It looks now like that: auto lo iface lo inet loopback # freerunner auto usb0 allow-hotplug usb0 iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.192 post-up /etc/network/freerunner start pre-down /etc/network/freerunner stop After a reboot (NetworkManager did not want to play well i.e. did not adopt to the changes) I get Device usb0: unmanaged and everything works as expected: My FR get's configured by /etc/network/freerunner and my (W)LAN-connections a correctly handled by NetworkManager. I guess this solution solves the issue for Ubuntu and all it's derivates too. Probably for all KDE-Installations as it seems that the key is to make the NetworkManager ignore the usb0-Interface. Regards thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?
Hi, On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 14:23:25 +0100 Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net wrote: I did nothing special. I only deinstalled gpsd and installed fso-gpsd. Some time ago fso-gpsd wasn't working good at all. But a few weeks ago i tried again to replace gpsd with fso-gpsd and since than it works ok. Interesting is that with fso-gpsd the gps chip is activated as soon as a connection to the fso-gpsd port is opened. And it is deactivated when the last connection closes. This feature has pros and cons but at the moment i like it. :) You can set the resource policy to enabled if you'd like to keep GPS on. See http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Usage.html;hb=HEAD#SetResourcePolicy for more information. It would be pretty easy to write a program to manipulate the policy of all the resources, but nobody has done that yet I believe. Regards, Daniel Willmann signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My solution (was: Car Charger?)
Hi Jon, On Tue, January 13, 2009 14:34, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: It would be nice to ask X11 to rotate everything 180 degrees. Then the top of the Openmoko would become the bottom. Sounds like a good application of the accelerometer to me. Yes, that could be a solution. In fact, in the Om2008 repos there is just such a tool, called accel-rotate. However, I find it mildly irritating, since it does not limit rotation to one portrait and one landscape display modes, it can rotate the screen in all 4 directions. In some applications this could actually be a very neat thing, depending on for instance the type of holder you have to clasp your FR. Thusly, if you can only put your FR into a holder upside down due to buttons/cables/whatever, then accell-rotate will allow you to do just that. -- Regards, Jan Henkins ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
El día Tuesday, January 13, 2009 a las 03:57:31PM +0100, arne anka escribió: I am kind of not understanding why the OM team is not helping on this PLEASE, STOP THAT IMMEDIATELY AND READ THE ARCHIVES! arne, Please don't get me wrong, but one should not write e-mail in capital letters; concerning the archives, I think there are 100++ mails a day and if you are refering to a good point you should point to that e-mail in detail; the archives are good, but without some search engine ... thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ SPAMer of the year: Subject: Alle Software ist Deutsche Sprachen From: -40 % die Neujahrsaktion gabriellekel...@grungecafe.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[om2008-9] Never able to successfully backup the jffs2 partition...
I've alway been able to backup the kernel partition of my Neo FR but not the jffs2 partition. Here's the error that is reported: Opening USB Device 0x:0x... Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=4, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name=rootfs Claiming USB DFU Interface... Setting Alternate Setting ... Determining device status: state = dfuERROR, status = 14 dfuERROR, clearing status Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0 dfuIDLE, continuing Transfer Size = 0x1000 dfu_upload error -84 This is not a terrible big deal right now but will be in the future. Any ideas? Questions comments or rude remarks? Cheers!! -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?
Hi, On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 13:50:18 +0100 Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net wrote: Since a few weeks i'm using fso-gpsd without any big problems so far. The only problem is that the TTFF (time to first fix) is always 1 minute and sometimes it needs quite a lot of time. The only solution for me to be sure to get a fix within 30 sec is to use the agps tool which downloads the almanac and ephemeris from ublox for my region. yes, I tried integrating hot-start into ogpsd, but somehow I had problems with supplying ephemeris. Just some days ago I noticed something that made me think the culprit is still the time calculation. The SVs that zhone claimed were visible suddenly made a jolt and were positioned differently. It was more than one, so it wasn't just one almanac that got updated. I'm not completely sure, though, didn't look too closely. The problem is, that the gps chip doesn't have any internal memory why it needs to download all relevant gps data every time it is powered up. So i thought if it is possible to save the relevant gps data before shutting down the gps which can be done by fso-gpsd or kernel automatically. Than after starting the gps fso-gpsd/kernel feeds back the data to speed up the TTFF. This would be the same way most gps receivers work. It actually does have memory, but lacks a backup battery which is supposed to power the memory of the GPS while main power is off. ogpsd already stores and restores almanac, GPS/UTC timeoffset and approximate last position. It's not restoring ephemeris because I had weird problems with that (TTFF increased to several minutes). Maybe this is already implemented somewhere but i don't think so because the TTFF without agps is always quite slow. Some things are there, some are missing. At the moment I'm busy getting SMS stable so I wont have too much time for GPS in the near future. Regards, Daniel Willmann signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
Please don't get me wrong, but one should not write e-mail in capital letters; you don't think, there might be reasons? concerning the archives, I think there are 100++ mails a day and if you are refering to a good point you should point to that e-mail in detail; the archives are good, but without some search engine ... the issue of buzz, fix and how and where have been discussed _so_ often that anybody reading this list should know the answers by heart. for everybody else onbly the term buzz shouldN#t be more than enough to find the plethora of mails answering drac2000's whining. i am sick and tired aof complaints like i don't understnd why om is not helping -- om has given to understand, taht work is going on, that more test has to be made and that they are working on how to provide the fixes (lord, why did i write that? why did i not let him search all by himself?). if he thinks that is to much to carry for him, he should either sell his fr or simply ask if there are any news on the schedule -- but these constant complaints and accusations are driving me crazy! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
I agree with you arne anka, buzz and gsm fixes are even documented on the wiki (no need to search in the e-mails) only the audio-fix (big capacitator to provide more bass isn't; hoping to see that one documented as well I would hate to get two things fixed, and have to fix a third one a week later... On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 4:26 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: Please don't get me wrong, but one should not write e-mail in capital letters; you don't think, there might be reasons? concerning the archives, I think there are 100++ mails a day and if you are refering to a good point you should point to that e-mail in detail; the archives are good, but without some search engine ... the issue of buzz, fix and how and where have been discussed _so_ often that anybody reading this list should know the answers by heart. for everybody else onbly the term buzz shouldN#t be more than enough to find the plethora of mails answering drac2000's whining. i am sick and tired aof complaints like i don't understnd why om is not helping -- om has given to understand, taht work is going on, that more test has to be made and that they are working on how to provide the fixes (lord, why did i write that? why did i not let him search all by himself?). if he thinks that is to much to carry for him, he should either sell his fr or simply ask if there are any news on the schedule -- but these constant complaints and accusations are driving me crazy! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
then unsubscribe from this list...or just don't read such emails... Original-Nachricht Datum: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:26:00 +0100 Von: arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur) Please don't get me wrong, but one should not write e-mail in capital letters; you don't think, there might be reasons? concerning the archives, I think there are 100++ mails a day and if you are refering to a good point you should point to that e-mail in detail; the archives are good, but without some search engine ... the issue of buzz, fix and how and where have been discussed _so_ often that anybody reading this list should know the answers by heart. for everybody else onbly the term buzz shouldN#t be more than enough to find the plethora of mails answering drac2000's whining. i am sick and tired aof complaints like i don't understnd why om is not helping -- om has given to understand, taht work is going on, that more test has to be made and that they are working on how to provide the fixes (lord, why did i write that? why did i not let him search all by himself?). if he thinks that is to much to carry for him, he should either sell his fr or simply ask if there are any news on the schedule -- but these constant complaints and accusations are driving me crazy! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Sensationsangebot verlängert: GMX FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 16,37 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K1308T4569a ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
I will not take it personal even if I think it is not the right way to comment.. I am sorry if my post hurts anyone All I wanted to say is that I expected that those hardware issues would be a priority (including debuging, testing, proposals etc...) than start dilema about GTA03, distros... All this because I beleive in the open community, in OM and in my FR. And i'm kind of frustrated to not be able to use my FR as my daily, now that I have it for +6 months I apologize if I express it the wrong way, but I think I can express my opinion without being scolded All my respects to you OM drac. arne anka wrote: I am kind of not understanding why the OM team is not helping on this PLEASE, STOP THAT IMMEDIATELY AND READ THE ARCHIVES! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/buzz-fix-%28was%3A-Pulster-offer---Freerunner-now-249-eur%29-tp2141213p2151776.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community update
thanks for the update Minh! hadn't heard about Gwaterpas it's been added to opkg now btw On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Minh Ha Duong hadu...@centre-cired.fr wrote: Hi! This is the nineth Community Updates, January 12th issue. For the new year we interviewed Sean on everything that matters for the community: sales in 2008 were around the low five digits, om-locations is what remains of an ambitious mesh network project, and the most surprising development to him was the explosion of distributions. Back on the mailing lists, activity was rater slow during the first week of the year, but got more intense than ever after the holidays. Illume's keyboard received lots of localisations. Opkg.org reached a critical mass of packages. SHR and FSO are counting down toward their next milestone, while coding continues for kernel, drivers, Android and the like. It looks like the switch to 2.6.28 is going to happen soonish, before the switch to the Paroli phone stack. The newsletter is also available with links at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/January_12th%2C_2009 Contents * 1 Distributions * 2 New applications * 3 Ports and updates * 4 Community * 5 Hardware and drivers * 6 Tips and tricks 1. Distributions * SHR: According to Julien's latest on the SHR project blog, the baby is expected really soon now. * Marek announced the new organisation of package and images repositories. * Android: The latest compatible kernel has wifi and bluetooth working now. Suspend and reboot are still broken. * FSO MS5 should branch out for really soon now (the roadmap says release January 31st, but they want a longer stabilization period this time). It will be the first milestone that will have support not only for GTA01 and 02, but also for the Motorola EZX A780. meeting minutes. * Hackable:1 buildbot is up and running. Images are generated every morning around 4:00. Happy testing ! * User:Bytestore has updated assemblage 2008.12 from Russian community, work with gprs, headphone jack plug, ru keyboard and many other things were updated (download rootfs, see screenshots) 2. New applications * LED clock When an Openmoko is sitting unused at night, turn it into an alarm clock with large 7-segment digits on a black background in landscape mode. * GPRSsettings is a GUI script designed to change apn, login, dialnumber. * Samuel's script for a toggle wifi icon. * ylock 0.1 Python screen lock and low battery monits. * AppManager 1.0.1 Zenity package manager. * Mirko announced that pre-alpha Paroli was now packaged in testing. Development moved to their own domain: paroli-project hosts trac, git, blog and documentation. * Kurt's Gwaterpas allows to use the Freerunner as a leveling tool. * There are now 75 packages at opkg.org. Novelties include osmupdater (updates OSM maps directory), sortdesk (sorts the desk), MokoCard (flashcards learning aid), sms-sentry (query the unit's location by SMS, handy if it was just stolen), pyring (a key ring), EFpLayer (mplayer GUI), playstankontakarta (an icon displaying remaining credit with POLISH PLAY pre-paid phone provider), various illume keyboards and more. It was mentioned unofficially that Openmoko's community repository is going to be dismantled. 3. Ports and updates * Lots of Navit activity. Distributions are kindly suggested to package the sample map separately from the main binary to conserve space. * The opkg package manager development moved from OM svn to Google code. The recommended stable version is r172, there is a significant data structures+algorithm refactorization going on. * Version 2.4 of orrery is now available. It has a new schematic Solar System View page, showing the position of the planets and our moon in their orbits, a new moon calendar, and a less ugly icon. * The ZOMG! package manager is now available on opkg.org, and now allows to add/remove/edit repositories (i.e. feeds). * Angus updated BtGPS.py to work with FSO. With this script, the FreeRunner works as a bluetooth GPS. * Marco shared his success in compiling the latest E17 svn on 2008.12. There was trouble on SHR with the Elementary widget set, tough. 4. Community * Sean's new year interview * Rakshat Hooja's company IDA Systems will be at Mumbai's TechFest. There are gifts waiting for the first 10 FreeRunner owners to show up at their booth! * The Future of location services thread started as an attempt to clarify the GPS drivers tangle, and then turned to using GSM celltowers and wifi access points location information. Dima signalled that there are several free databases of GSM tower locations, and that his gta02 Perl script to query OpenCellID for the approximate tower location, and then initialize the AGPS with this data works great. There is a database of Wifi access points at wigle.net. * Two new mailing lists were
Re: [om2008-9] Never able to successfully backup the jffs2 partition...
john dowd wrote: I've alway been able to backup the kernel partition of my Neo FR but not the jffs2 partition. Here's the error that is reported: Opening USB Device 0x:0x... Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=4, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name=rootfs Claiming USB DFU Interface... Setting Alternate Setting ... Determining device status: state = dfuERROR, status = 14 dfuERROR, clearing status Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0 dfuIDLE, continuing Transfer Size = 0x1000 dfu_upload error -84 This is not a terrible big deal right now but will be in the future. Any ideas? Questions comments or rude remarks? You should update uboot to get it completed. Uboot-git has a fix for this. BTW you can follow the Backup wiki, and generate a jffs2 via ssh without dfu-utils ;) -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [om2008-9] Never able to successfully backup the jffs2 partition...
To be clear, you are saying that this is a u-boot issue? I usually go and sacrifice a few chickens and make sure that it's a new moon before I update a bootloader. Especially when I don't have a debug board or external way of updating flash. Cheers!! On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net wrote: john dowd wrote: I've alway been able to backup the kernel partition of my Neo FR but not the jffs2 partition. Here's the error that is reported: Opening USB Device 0x:0x... Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=4, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name=rootfs Claiming USB DFU Interface... Setting Alternate Setting ... Determining device status: state = dfuERROR, status = 14 dfuERROR, clearing status Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0 dfuIDLE, continuing Transfer Size = 0x1000 dfu_upload error -84 This is not a terrible big deal right now but will be in the future. Any ideas? Questions comments or rude remarks? You should update uboot to get it completed. Uboot-git has a fix for this. BTW you can follow the Backup wiki, and generate a jffs2 via ssh without dfu-utils ;) -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- John Dowd jd...@slashdevslashnull.org 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
On Tuesday 13 January 2009, Yorick Moko wrote: buzz and gsm fixes are even documented on the wiki (no need to search in the e-mails) only the audio-fix (big capacitator to provide more bass isn't; hoping to see that one documented as well There's some fairly detailed discussion of audio mods on the hardware list which could be copied into the wiki, but there is no 'official' mod. I suspect there won't be one either, mostly because big caps won't fit in the space available, and relocating them to outside the screening can could easily reintroduce buzz. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: which SHR image
On Monday 12 January 2009, Helge Hafting wrote: The .tar.gz file is not an image for flashing. It is simply an archive with all the files. It is useful in that you can extract the files on a pc easily. You may then copy single files to the freerunner in order to fix a botched customization without having to reflash. If you have customized over several weeks, then perhaps you don't want to reflash and start from scratch. It is also the file you want if you are going to run from SD rather than flash. Both of the other two works. The summary file is slightly bigger, but is preferable. I have no idea why - but was told so. IIRC the .summary file has some extra filesystem info present that allows it to be mounted faster. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: Please don't get me wrong, but one should not write e-mail in capital letters; concerning the archives, I think there are 100++ mails a day and if you are refering to a good point you should point to that e-mail in detail; the archives are good, but without some search engine ... Regarding to searches, you could try staring with these two: http://aiurlano.netsons.org/OpenMoko/index.html?cx=01843063342716089%3Aszsaurhronwcof=FORID%3A9q=buzz+fixsa=OpenmokoSearch#1167 http://aiurlano.netsons.org/OpenMoko/index.html?cx=01843063342716089%3Aszsaurhronwcof=FORID%3A9q=gsm+fixsa=OpenmokoSearch#1186 Hope this helps ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [om2008-9] Never able to successfully backup the jffs2 partition...
On Tuesday 13 January 2009, john dowd wrote: To be clear, you are saying that this is a u-boot issue? There was an issue with u-boot failing to transfer correctly from phone to PC, usually when trying to back up the rootfs. I remember mention of a patch, but I can't confirm that it's now fixed as I've not tried it. I usually go and sacrifice a few chickens and make sure that it's a new moon before I update a bootloader. Especially when I don't have a debug board or external way of updating flash. With the FR you don't need to worry too much as there is a failsafe u-boot in NOR in addition to the updateable one in NAND. The failsafe one can't be overwritten if you don't have a debug board, so you can always use it to flash a new bootloader to NAND. Cheers!! On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net wrote: john dowd wrote: I've alway been able to backup the kernel partition of my Neo FR but not the jffs2 partition. Here's the error that is reported: Opening USB Device 0x:0x... Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=4, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name=rootfs Claiming USB DFU Interface... Setting Alternate Setting ... Determining device status: state = dfuERROR, status = 14 dfuERROR, clearing status Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0 dfuIDLE, continuing Transfer Size = 0x1000 dfu_upload error -84 This is not a terrible big deal right now but will be in the future. Any ideas? Questions comments or rude remarks? You should update uboot to get it completed. Uboot-git has a fix for this. BTW you can follow the Backup wiki, and generate a jffs2 via ssh without dfu-utils ;) -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Conflict when several apps use the accelerometers?
Thomas Otterbein wrote: to my opinion the default auto-rotation software should have some signaling mechanism that keeps it from doing it's job while a certain software is active. You can experience this with the later versions of MPlayer. It tells the Screensaver not to activate during movie playback. I figure the screensaver modules of Desktop-Manager must have appropriate interfaces to accomplish that behaviour. For example if a program would like to gain exclusive control over the accelerometers it could create a certain file (e.g. /var/run/donotrotate_illdoitmyself). The default rotation software checks for this file and while the file exists it loosen it's grip of the meters. This would solve the issue of concurrent access too. As far as I know the file could be created in a way so that even when the software crashes completely it is removed and therefore allow the original rotation-software to reactivate reliably. How about running two apps then, if they're both using accelerometers and each requires its own orientation? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Conflict-when-several-apps-use-the-accelerometers--tp2145087p2152673.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] How to close the browser window
Walking up the parent directory of your link reveals Penquin Embedded in Valencia, Spain. On Jan 12, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Denis Galvão wrote: Yeah... One more hack to be done... BTW, Im not sure if someone got the same Wifi scan success that I had. So I can scan for networks and (doing a copy paste procedure) start a new wifi wpa connection. The problem is dhcp that sometimes is not working properly and you need to force the DNS IP itself. Im using these files: freerunner-v3.jffs2 2009-Jan-12 01:50:1730.5M uImage-moredrivers-GTA02_android_458301db547e5375.bin 2009-Jan-09 16:58:55 2.4M From: http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/download/ Qi as bootloader. (2.4M kernel image) Who is behind those daily builds rootfs and kernel? -- Denis Galvão AsteriskBrasil.org Ajude a comunidade AsteriskBrasil.org, compre uma camiseta! http://www.voipmania.com.br On 12/01/2009, at 15:04, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Denis Galvão wrote: Is there a way to close the browser, or come back to the phone start screen? I dont' know if it can be closed completely without going back until the begin of the navigation, but I can at least make it go in background by pressing the Menu (power) button - Windows - New Window - Back (AUX) button ;) -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Call for SMS templates
qpe hat an sms template managemnet. tthe shr apps don't. if the community wants it i'm gonna write a keyboard layout consisting of sms templates. before i can start i need to know which templates are wanted/needed. if there is enough response i'll post one tomorrow (the contents of the kbd file) containing the suggestions ( i think one day should be enough to gather the most common ones). i will let the mail containg the sauce of the kbd file then cycle so that it can be localized ( i only speak english and german, so i'll do the german localisation my suggestion would be a row of the most common smiley/emoticons next rows: (mybe using pngs instead of text if you have any ideas, please also append png files - don't bother i'l make them all look monolithic) Yes, something like later or @work. will call you later. i am also posting this at the german freeyourphone forum. so the mail tomorrow will also contain the suggestions gathered from there ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
shr- GPS howto?
I've started the demon fso-gpsd and then tangoGPS but it's still receiving no coords. What can I do to test GSP services? Are there any known extra steps needed to get TangoGPS to work? Regards, Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Conflict when several apps use the accelerometers?
How about running two apps then, if they're both using accelerometers and each requires its own orientation? Perhaps a Accelero-Deamon? Applications could register for receiving, probably even already pre-processed, events. And an application could also request exclusive access in which case the others would just not receive further events. So, problem's solved! Could we please get a working demo by tomorrow? ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS unreliable: long lasting connection fail
I was looking at this once and I think the problem might be that pppd closes the device and re-opens it before reconnecting, and the mux device is no longer usable once it has been closed. I didn't verify this, but it seemed logical to me ;). -- Eldon Koyle -- BOFH excuse #153: Big to little endian conversion error On Jan 12 22:14+1300, Andrew Stephen wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Niccolo Rigacci nicc...@rigacci.org wrote: [snip] Please tell me: with gsm0710uxd the connection is still done by pppd/chat? Yes - gsm0710muxd creates a new serial device for each application needing access to the GSM device. You just call pppd with its own device. [snip] I hope to last 12 hours or so, because I do GPS live tracking with position upload to the internet every 5/10 seconds. [snip] I've run GPRS for several hours at a time in a car travelling in some dodgy reception areas. Sometimes it seemsed to lose connection and re-establish itself gracefully but more often than not I'd find that GPRS had died and pppd was still up but ineffective. I usually had to reboot the FR before I could re-establish connection when this happened. -- Andrew Stephen http://www.evil.geek.nz/ It is absurd to divide people into good and bad. People are either charming or tedious. - Oscar Wilde ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- GPS howto?
Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl writes: receiving no coords. What can I do to test GSP services? 1) is the GPS chip powered on? 2) is there a process that has the serial port for GPS open? 3) is that reading any data? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My solution
For fun you could adjust the accelerometer threshold to be super-sensitive, and then when you drive around corners the display would rotate 90 degrees, giving the virtual illusion* of driving really, really fast! :-) * virtual illusion? You heard it hear first. Yes, that could be a solution. In fact, in the Om2008 repos there is just such a tool, called accel-rotate. However, I find it mildly irritating, since it does not limit rotation to one portrait and one landscape display modes, it can rotate the screen in all 4 directions. In some applications this could actually be a very neat thing, depending on for instance the type of holder you have to clasp your FR. Thusly, if you can only put your FR into a holder upside down due to buttons/cables/whatever, then accell-rotate will allow you to do just that. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My solution (was: Car Charger?)
On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 09:34 -0500, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: The problem I had was that the FR has it's buttons and USB port at the bottom and the holder comes designed to hold the mobile at the bottom ;) It has two pieces: One that attaches to the car, and the other which holds the mobile. I just flipped the whole thing over, so it holds the FR at the top. But then with the vibrations it would come off so I just glued the two pieces together. It would be nice to ask X11 to rotate everything 180 degrees. Then the top of the Openmoko would become the bottom. Sounds like a good application of the accelerometer to me. True, this could be a solution, however I like my FR to be in the right orientation. Besides the fix was quite simple and the holder quite cheap :) Benedikt md signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] How to close the browser window
BTW, I dont need to hack de dhcp/dns. Just choose your wifi spot and start browsing. -- Denis Galvão AsteriskBrasil.org Ajude a comunidade AsteriskBrasil.org, compre uma camiseta! http://www.voipmania.com.br On 13/01/2009, at 17:09, C R McClenaghan wrote: Walking up the parent directory of your link reveals Penquin Embedded in Valencia, Spain. On Jan 12, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Denis Galvão wrote: Yeah... One more hack to be done... BTW, Im not sure if someone got the same Wifi scan success that I had. So I can scan for networks and (doing a copy paste procedure) start a new wifi wpa connection. The problem is dhcp that sometimes is not working properly and you need to force the DNS IP itself. Im using these files: freerunner-v3.jffs2 2009-Jan-12 01:50:1730.5M uImage-moredrivers-GTA02_android_458301db547e5375.bin2009-Jan-09 16:58:55 2.4M From: http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/download/ Qi as bootloader. (2.4M kernel image) Who is behind those daily builds rootfs and kernel? -- Denis Galvão AsteriskBrasil.org Ajude a comunidade AsteriskBrasil.org, compre uma camiseta! http://www.voipmania.com.br On 12/01/2009, at 15:04, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Denis Galvão wrote: Is there a way to close the browser, or come back to the phone start screen? I dont' know if it can be closed completely without going back until the begin of the navigation, but I can at least make it go in background by pressing the Menu (power) button - Windows - New Window - Back (AUX) button ;) -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- GPS howto?
did you try http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2104833 ? 2009/1/13 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl writes: receiving no coords. What can I do to test GSP services? 1) is the GPS chip powered on? 2) is there a process that has the serial port for GPS open? 3) is that reading any data? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My solution
On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 11:43 -0800, Michael Shiloh wrote: For fun you could adjust the accelerometer threshold to be super-sensitive, and then when you drive around corners the display would rotate 90 degrees, giving the virtual illusion* of driving really, really fast! :-) Nice idea! I have to add that to my TODO list (just for fun) :) Benedikt * virtual illusion? You heard it hear first. Yes, that could be a solution. In fact, in the Om2008 repos there is just such a tool, called accel-rotate. However, I find it mildly irritating, since it does not limit rotation to one portrait and one landscape display modes, it can rotate the screen in all 4 directions. In some applications this could actually be a very neat thing, depending on for instance the type of holder you have to clasp your FR. Thusly, if you can only put your FR into a holder upside down due to buttons/cables/whatever, then accell-rotate will allow you to do just that. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- GPS howto?
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl writes: receiving no coords. What can I do to test GSP services? 1) is the GPS chip powered on? I remember in original om had an option to turn on/off GPS but I can't find it in SHR. Anyway, I assumed gpsd would take care of it. So, in SHR, how can I check whether GPS is on/off and how to switch it on/off? 2) is there a process that has the serial port for GPS open? 3) is that reading any data? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- GPS howto?
Actually I just thought I had to start manually fso-gpsd (that's what's on the shr wiki page) but as a matter of fact I checked now that it is being actually started at boot time. I'm now trying to figure out how to check whether gps is on/off and how to control it. Thomas des Courières wrote: did you try http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2104833 ? 2009/1/13 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi mailto:timo.lindf...@iki.fi Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl mailto:ferna...@cmartins.nl writes: receiving no coords. What can I do to test GSP services? 1) is the GPS chip powered on? 2) is there a process that has the serial port for GPS open? 3) is that reading any data? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- GPS howto?
You can test fso-gpsd by running telnet localhost 2947 then typing r and pressing return. You should the receive GPS data. Cheers, Mike. Fernando Martins wrote: Actually I just thought I had to start manually fso-gpsd (that's what's on the shr wiki page) but as a matter of fact I checked now that it is being actually started at boot time. I'm now trying to figure out how to check whether gps is on/off and how to control it. Thomas des Courières wrote: did you try http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2104833 ? 2009/1/13 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi mailto:timo.lindf...@iki.fi Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl mailto:ferna...@cmartins.nl writes: receiving no coords. What can I do to test GSP services? 1) is the GPS chip powered on? 2) is there a process that has the serial port for GPS open? 3) is that reading any data? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- GPS howto?
Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl writes: I remember in original om had an option to turn on/off GPS but I can't find it in SHR. Anyway, I assumed gpsd would take care of it. So, in normal gpsd does nothing about freerunner specific power controls. SHR, how can I check whether GPS is on/off and how to switch it on/off? I cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-regltr.7/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
Hello, Am Dienstag, 13. Januar 2009 schrieb arne anka: I am kind of not understanding why the OM team is not helping on this PLEASE, STOP THAT IMMEDIATELY AND READ THE ARCHIVES! PLEASE no more READ THE ARCHIVES platitudes! But more Wiki Links ;-) On the other side please no baseless accusation of the OM team! No. This should be no offense and I can understand that it's annoying, if people always ask the same questions. But... Recently I was searching for a solution to one of my various FR problems and Google pointed me to a archived email of someone asking the same on this list. Great! But when I read the answer read the archives (from arne anka) my problem was still not solved! If you watch somebody drowning, will you tell him it's wise to learn swimming or throw a lifesaver? Do you really expect a newbie to read all archived emails of the past (most of them maybe outdated). And this list is noisy! The focus might also change. Starting with distro A, someone might not follow a discussion with a problem of distro B. Changing to distro B, it's also hard to get all the information from the archives. Looking at the wiki, it's sometimes hard to find the right entry. With all these distros it's also sometimes confusing, which method works for which setup. It's hard to keep everything up to date with this sometimes fast development. If there's some outcome of a discussion, it should be gathered on the wiki. IMHO it's a waste of time, if all people read all these emails in the archives in the first place. Usually people first read books to get a basic knowledge and articles as a supplement for the latest news. It's not common e.g. to learn the basics of physics reading all the letters between physicist of the last centuries, but reading a book accumulating the results. Sorry for that off-topic email (no one should feel offended) and special thanks to the wiki writers! Regards, Martin Bernreuther -- _ Martin Bernreuther martinb...@web.de ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- GPS howto?
ok, it's the first time I'm looking into this GPS stuff. Following the suggestion from Timo in another post, I do a cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron (which is different from his /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-regltr.7/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron, but that's what I found) and that gives me 0. A echoed a 1 to it, but it's the first time a learn about sysfs and I'm not sure this way of setting configuration really works. Anyway, I telneted then to the port but I'm not really familiar with these GPS codes. This seems to be NEMEA data and a quick reading tells me that $GPRMC should give me my coordinates but I'm getting empty stuff $GPRMC,,V,,*31 so something with the device is not working. Also, TangoGPS tells me no GPS found. Any further suggestions from here? Regards, Fernando Michael Sheldon wrote: You can test fso-gpsd by running telnet localhost 2947 then typing r and pressing return. You should the receive GPS data. Cheers, Mike. Fernando Martins wrote: Actually I just thought I had to start manually fso-gpsd (that's what's on the shr wiki page) but as a matter of fact I checked now that it is being actually started at boot time. I'm now trying to figure out how to check whether gps is on/off and how to control it. Thomas des Courières wrote: did you try http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2104833 ? 2009/1/13 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi mailto:timo.lindf...@iki.fi Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl mailto:ferna...@cmartins.nl writes: receiving no coords. What can I do to test GSP services? 1) is the GPS chip powered on? 2) is there a process that has the serial port for GPS open? 3) is that reading any data? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
wmiconfig compile?
Hi, I want to compile wmiconfig... What packages i need ? arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc -Wall -DUSER_KEYS -g -I../../include -I../../../include -I../../wlan/include -I../../os/linux/include wmiconfig.c -o wmiconfig wmiconfig.c:22:23: error: sys/types.h: No such file or directory wmiconfig.c:23:22: error: sys/file.h: No such file or directory wmiconfig.c:24:23: error: sys/ioctl.h: No such file or directory wmiconfig.c:25:24: error: sys/socket.h: No such file or directory wmiconfig.c:26:25: error: linux/types.h: No such file or directory wmiconfig.c:27:22: error: linux/if.h: No such file or directory wmiconfig.c:28:28: error: linux/wireless.h: No such file or directory wmiconfig.c:30:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory wmiconfig.c:31:20: error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory wmiconfig.c:32:20: error: string.h: No such file or directory wmiconfig.c:33:20: error: getopt.h: No such file or directory wmiconfig.c:35:22: error: sys/stat.h: No such file or directory wmiconfig.c:36:19: error: fcntl.h: No such file or directory wmiconfig.c:37:20: error: unistd.h: No such file or directory wmiconfig.c:38:17: error: err.h: No such file or directory wmiconfig.c:40:22: error: a_config.h: No such file or directory wmiconfig.c:41:21: error: a_osapi.h: No such file or directory wmiconfig.c:42:21: error: athdefs.h: No such file or directory wmiconfig.c:43:21: error: a_types.h: No such file or directory wmiconfig.c:44:26: error: athdrv_linux.h: No such file or directory wmiconfig.c:45:23: error: ieee80211.h: No such file or directory wmiconfig.c:46:29: error: ieee80211_ioctl.h: No such file or directory wmiconfig.c:47:17: error: wmi.h: No such file or directory Thanks, Samuel smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- GPS howto?
You don't need to power on the GPS device yourself, FSO will handle this for you when a client requests the GPS resource (and then power it down again when there are no longer any clients using it). You'll get empty data until the device acquires a fix. From what I've read elsewhere it seems important to make sure that your time-zone settings and date/time are correct, as it seems FSO uses these when getting a fix. Cheers, Mike. Fernando Martins wrote: ok, it's the first time I'm looking into this GPS stuff. Following the suggestion from Timo in another post, I do a cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron (which is different from his /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-regltr.7/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron, but that's what I found) and that gives me 0. A echoed a 1 to it, but it's the first time a learn about sysfs and I'm not sure this way of setting configuration really works. Anyway, I telneted then to the port but I'm not really familiar with these GPS codes. This seems to be NEMEA data and a quick reading tells me that $GPRMC should give me my coordinates but I'm getting empty stuff $GPRMC,,V,,*31 so something with the device is not working. Also, TangoGPS tells me no GPS found. Any further suggestions from here? Regards, Fernando Michael Sheldon wrote: You can test fso-gpsd by running telnet localhost 2947 then typing r and pressing return. You should the receive GPS data. Cheers, Mike. Fernando Martins wrote: Actually I just thought I had to start manually fso-gpsd (that's what's on the shr wiki page) but as a matter of fact I checked now that it is being actually started at boot time. I'm now trying to figure out how to check whether gps is on/off and how to control it. Thomas des Courières wrote: did you try http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2104833 ? 2009/1/13 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi mailto:timo.lindf...@iki.fi Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl mailto:ferna...@cmartins.nl writes: receiving no coords. What can I do to test GSP services? 1) is the GPS chip powered on? 2) is there a process that has the serial port for GPS open? 3) is that reading any data? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- GPS howto?
Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl writes: about sysfs and I'm not sure this way of setting configuration really works. Yes it works just like that. Anyway, I telneted then to the port but I'm not really familiar with Telnet'ed to what port? The gpsd port 2947 should not return NMEA but just reply to one-letter commands: li...@ginger:~$ netcat localhost gpsd p GPSD,P=? d GPSD,D=? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- GPS howto?
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Telnet'ed to what port? The gpsd port 2947 should not return NMEA but just reply to one-letter commands: The 'r' command switches fso-gpsd to raw mode, so it'll give a constant stream of NMEA data as it receives it from ogpsd. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: turning wifi off
MT( BTW the 2.6.28 kernel should have also another way to disable the wlan BTW not all components can be turned off: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-December/007317.html : Yes the AR6001 is wired up so it has the always on 3.3V power ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [om2008-9] Never able to successfully backup the jffs2 partition...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 john dowd wrote: I've alway been able to backup the kernel partition of my Neo FR but not the jffs2 partition. Here's the error that is reported: Opening USB Device 0x:0x... Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=4, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name=rootfs Claiming USB DFU Interface... Setting Alternate Setting ... Determining device status: state = dfuERROR, status = 14 dfuERROR, clearing status Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0 dfuIDLE, continuing Transfer Size = 0x1000 dfu_upload error -84 This is not a terrible big deal right now but will be in the future. Any ideas? Questions comments or rude remarks? Cheers!! -- NeoTool will backup your root partition to a flashable jffs2 without using dfu-util http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NeoTool Regards, - -Dale -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJbRonFbVnQRV3OEYRApQwAKCm9M/V1hJ/5vtWthVIotL6rU8CKwCfTypI 0Sr1/X6Y+q6DMatM/IWygQ0= =D7Ag -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- GPS howto?
No luck: - I've setup date and timezone; - GPS is on, per /sys/class... incantation - demon fso-gpsd is on, checked with ps - telnet comunicates with gpsd but no good data - tangoGPS doesn't find GPS device I have no idea of the reception capabilities of om (or GPS devices in general): is it supposed to work indoors? Any further suggestions? Thanks for all the help so far, Fernando Michael Sheldon wrote: You don't need to power on the GPS device yourself, FSO will handle this for you when a client requests the GPS resource (and then power it down again when there are no longer any clients using it). You'll get empty data until the device acquires a fix. From what I've read elsewhere it seems important to make sure that your time-zone settings and date/time are correct, as it seems FSO uses these when getting a fix. Cheers, Mike. Fernando Martins wrote: ok, it's the first time I'm looking into this GPS stuff. Following the suggestion from Timo in another post, I do a cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron (which is different from his /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-regltr.7/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron, but that's what I found) and that gives me 0. A echoed a 1 to it, but it's the first time a learn about sysfs and I'm not sure this way of setting configuration really works. Anyway, I telneted then to the port but I'm not really familiar with these GPS codes. This seems to be NEMEA data and a quick reading tells me that $GPRMC should give me my coordinates but I'm getting empty stuff $GPRMC,,V,,*31 so something with the device is not working. Also, TangoGPS tells me no GPS found. Any further suggestions from here? Regards, Fernando Michael Sheldon wrote: You can test fso-gpsd by running telnet localhost 2947 then typing r and pressing return. You should the receive GPS data. Cheers, Mike. Fernando Martins wrote: Actually I just thought I had to start manually fso-gpsd (that's what's on the shr wiki page) but as a matter of fact I checked now that it is being actually started at boot time. I'm now trying to figure out how to check whether gps is on/off and how to control it. Thomas des Courières wrote: did you try http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2104833 ? 2009/1/13 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi mailto:timo.lindf...@iki.fi Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl mailto:ferna...@cmartins.nl writes: receiving no coords. What can I do to test GSP services? 1) is the GPS chip powered on? 2) is there a process that has the serial port for GPS open? 3) is that reading any data? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- GPS howto?
You're unlikely to get a fix indoors, you might be able to get one pressed up against a window, but for best results you should be outside. Fernando Martins wrote: No luck: - I've setup date and timezone; - GPS is on, per /sys/class... incantation - demon fso-gpsd is on, checked with ps - telnet comunicates with gpsd but no good data - tangoGPS doesn't find GPS device I have no idea of the reception capabilities of om (or GPS devices in general): is it supposed to work indoors? Any further suggestions? Thanks for all the help so far, Fernando Michael Sheldon wrote: You don't need to power on the GPS device yourself, FSO will handle this for you when a client requests the GPS resource (and then power it down again when there are no longer any clients using it). You'll get empty data until the device acquires a fix. From what I've read elsewhere it seems important to make sure that your time-zone settings and date/time are correct, as it seems FSO uses these when getting a fix. Cheers, Mike. Fernando Martins wrote: ok, it's the first time I'm looking into this GPS stuff. Following the suggestion from Timo in another post, I do a cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron (which is different from his /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-regltr.7/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron, but that's what I found) and that gives me 0. A echoed a 1 to it, but it's the first time a learn about sysfs and I'm not sure this way of setting configuration really works. Anyway, I telneted then to the port but I'm not really familiar with these GPS codes. This seems to be NEMEA data and a quick reading tells me that $GPRMC should give me my coordinates but I'm getting empty stuff $GPRMC,,V,,*31 so something with the device is not working. Also, TangoGPS tells me no GPS found. Any further suggestions from here? Regards, Fernando Michael Sheldon wrote: You can test fso-gpsd by running telnet localhost 2947 then typing r and pressing return. You should the receive GPS data. Cheers, Mike. Fernando Martins wrote: Actually I just thought I had to start manually fso-gpsd (that's what's on the shr wiki page) but as a matter of fact I checked now that it is being actually started at boot time. I'm now trying to figure out how to check whether gps is on/off and how to control it. Thomas des Courières wrote: did you try http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2104833 ? 2009/1/13 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi mailto:timo.lindf...@iki.fi Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl mailto:ferna...@cmartins.nl writes: receiving no coords. What can I do to test GSP services? 1) is the GPS chip powered on? 2) is there a process that has the serial port for GPS open? 3) is that reading any data? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Multiple internet connections
Hello! Is it possible to use multiple internet connections on Freerunner at the same time? Say I want to use ssh via GPRS, and all other programs via WLAN or usb. Is it possible? Real life example - in my university we have very good unlimited WiFi, actually 2 of them. In my dormitory room I have connection limited by proxy (no torrent :(). What I want to do is to leave my FR at school at some place safe, connect it to wall charger, insert 4GB memory card in it, and turn on gprs connection. Then I would go home, log in to my phone via GPRS, then connect to WIFI and start downloading some stuff via torrent on my memory card. Neat :D Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: wmiconfig compile?
Do you run make in the host/tools/wmiconfig directory and did you checkout the whole thing? -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Multiple internet connections
On Tuesday 13 January 2009, Leonti Bielski wrote: Hello! Is it possible to use multiple internet connections on Freerunner at the same time? There are several possible ways depending on circumstances. Bridges, routes or iptables rules could all do this to some degree. Now would be a good time to start reading linux networking howtos and documentation. Say I want to use ssh via GPRS, and all other programs via WLAN or usb. Is it possible? I think it could be done with packet marking and some interesting iptables rules. If you know what ports the app uses then it would be easier. You probably don't really want to do this though. Real life example - in my university we have very good unlimited WiFi, actually 2 of them. In my dormitory room I have connection limited by proxy (no torrent :(). What I want to do is to leave my FR at school at some place safe, connect it to wall charger, insert 4GB memory card in it, and turn on gprs connection. Then I would go home, log in to my phone via GPRS, then connect to WIFI and start downloading some stuff via torrent on my memory card. Neat :D If you know your home IP address, or address range, you can set the default route to be via wifi, but the route to that address or range to be via GPRS. There is a problem though; with the telcos in the UK the GPRS connection is usually on NAT, so you can't actually ssh into the phone over GPRS. You could probably get the phone to initiate an openvpn connection to your home and keep the connection open though, and you could then ssh in over the VPN. Or you could make a standard modem-style GSM data call to the phone and use screen to keep your session running when you end the data call. BTW this would probably violate several points of your university acceptable use policy, and in some places would be enough to get you kicked out. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Multiple internet connections
So, this is probably better for the support list, but, what you're talking about is possible. Also, university is useless, getting yourself kicked out may actually be useful. Howto: Create two routing tables echo 20 gprs /etc/iproute2/rt_tables ip route add default via $PPP_ENDPOINT dev ppp0 table gprs ip rule add from $PPPADDRESS lookup gprs then keep the other routing table in place, you can manipulate that without knocking out your PPP connectivity. On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: On Tuesday 13 January 2009, Leonti Bielski wrote: Hello! Is it possible to use multiple internet connections on Freerunner at the same time? There are several possible ways depending on circumstances. Bridges, routes or iptables rules could all do this to some degree. Now would be a good time to start reading linux networking howtos and documentation. Say I want to use ssh via GPRS, and all other programs via WLAN or usb. Is it possible? I think it could be done with packet marking and some interesting iptables rules. If you know what ports the app uses then it would be easier. You probably don't really want to do this though. Real life example - in my university we have very good unlimited WiFi, actually 2 of them. In my dormitory room I have connection limited by proxy (no torrent :(). What I want to do is to leave my FR at school at some place safe, connect it to wall charger, insert 4GB memory card in it, and turn on gprs connection. Then I would go home, log in to my phone via GPRS, then connect to WIFI and start downloading some stuff via torrent on my memory card. Neat :D If you know your home IP address, or address range, you can set the default route to be via wifi, but the route to that address or range to be via GPRS. There is a problem though; with the telcos in the UK the GPRS connection is usually on NAT, so you can't actually ssh into the phone over GPRS. You could probably get the phone to initiate an openvpn connection to your home and keep the connection open though, and you could then ssh in over the VPN. Or you could make a standard modem-style GSM data call to the phone and use screen to keep your session running when you end the data call. BTW this would probably violate several points of your university acceptable use policy, and in some places would be enough to get you kicked out. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Multiple internet connections
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:48:18 -0800, Sargun Dhillon xbmodder+openm...@gmail.com wrote: So, this is probably better for the support list, but, what you're talking about is possible. Also, university is useless, getting yourself kicked out may actually be useful. Howto: Create two routing tables echo 20 gprs /etc/iproute2/rt_tables ip route add default via $PPP_ENDPOINT dev ppp0 table gprs ip rule add from $PPPADDRESS lookup gprs then keep the other routing table in place, you can manipulate that without knocking out your PPP connectivity. Caveat: You can't accomplish this with the busybox-as-'ip'-replacement used by default on the FR, you need the complete iproute2 version. (busybox version doesn't support 'table' or 'rule') I've not noticed if it's made it into a feed yet, I always install http://newkirk.us/om/iproute2_2.6.26_armv4t.ipk which I built a few months ago and keep at the 'FR stuff' link in my sig. j On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: On Tuesday 13 January 2009, Leonti Bielski wrote: Hello! Is it possible to use multiple internet connections on Freerunner at the same time? There are several possible ways depending on circumstances. Bridges, routes or iptables rules could all do this to some degree. Now would be a good time to start reading linux networking howtos and documentation. Say I want to use ssh via GPRS, and all other programs via WLAN or usb. Is it possible? I think it could be done with packet marking and some interesting iptables rules. If you know what ports the app uses then it would be easier. You probably don't really want to do this though. Real life example - in my university we have very good unlimited WiFi, actually 2 of them. In my dormitory room I have connection limited by proxy (no torrent :(). What I want to do is to leave my FR at school at some place safe, connect it to wall charger, insert 4GB memory card in it, and turn on gprs connection. Then I would go home, log in to my phone via GPRS, then connect to WIFI and start downloading some stuff via torrent on my memory card. Neat :D If you know your home IP address, or address range, you can set the default route to be via wifi, but the route to that address or range to be via GPRS. There is a problem though; with the telcos in the UK the GPRS connection is usually on NAT, so you can't actually ssh into the phone over GPRS. You could probably get the phone to initiate an openvpn connection to your home and keep the connection open though, and you could then ssh in over the VPN. Or you could make a standard modem-style GSM data call to the phone and use screen to keep your session running when you end the data call. BTW this would probably violate several points of your university acceptable use policy, and in some places would be enough to get you kicked out. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Joel Newkirk http://jthinks.com (blog) http://newkirk.us/om (FR stuff) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: stupid networking question
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 6:01 AM, Peter Nijs pe...@familienijs.be wrote: Sadly, this doesn't work on my suse (/etc/sysconfig/...) based system. depeje On Thursday 08 January 2009 12:58:09 Thomas Otterbein wrote: FYI: On my kubuntu (ubuntu with KDE installed by default) using the KDE NetworkManager I followed the advices on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#Debian.2C_Ubuntu_and_others but insereted auto usb0 into /etc/network/interfaces as suggested by arne. It looks now like that: auto lo iface lo inet loopback # freerunner auto usb0 allow-hotplug usb0 iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.192 post-up /etc/network/freerunner start pre-down /etc/network/freerunner stop After a reboot (NetworkManager did not want to play well i.e. did not adopt to the changes) I get Device usb0: unmanaged and everything works as expected: My FR get's configured by /etc/network/freerunner and my (W)LAN-connections a correctly handled by NetworkManager. I guess this solution solves the issue for Ubuntu and all it's derivates too. Probably for all KDE-Installations as it seems that the key is to make the NetworkManager ignore the usb0-Interface. Regards thomas Greetings! I have Debian lenny on a 686 and for the record, I do use the KDE for my window manager. I doubt KDE has any effect on the kernel level networking. That said, I am open to learning. I put this stanza in my /etc/network/interfaces file, to wit: allow-hotplug usb0 iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 I did not include the auto usb0 because I don't always have my FreeRunner (gta02, Date Code: 20070731) connected via the USB cable. Now, then, when I boot the desktop box, arno-iptables-firewall complains about usb0 not being there yet. Then, when I do boot my FreeRunner and connect the USB cable, I find I have an interface with the appropriate address automatically setup for me. Here is the output of a series of commands, before and after connecting: BEFORE: f...@irad:~$ ip link show 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000 link/ether 00:11:11:36:c9:b8 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff f...@irad:~$ ip addr show 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo inet6 ::1/128 scope host valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000 link/ether 00:11:11:36:c9:b8 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 192.168.35.11/24 brd 192.168.35.255 scope global eth0 inet6 fe80::211:11ff:fe36:c9b8/64 scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever AFTER: f...@irad:~$ ip link show 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000 link/ether 00:11:11:36:c9:b8 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff 4: usb0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UNKNOWN qlen 1000 link/ether fa:b5:c2:e2:09:ea brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff f...@irad:~$ ip addr show 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo inet6 ::1/128 scope host valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000 link/ether 00:11:11:36:c9:b8 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 192.168.35.11/24 brd 192.168.35.255 scope global eth0 inet6 fe80::211:11ff:fe36:c9b8/64 scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 4: usb0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UNKNOWN qlen 1000 link/ether fa:b5:c2:e2:09:ea brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 192.168.0.200/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global usb0 inet6 fe80::f8b5:c2ff:fee2:9ea/64 scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever I use arno-iptables-firewall to set up my firewall and nat routing from the usb0 interface through my regular eth0 connection to my local router and Internet connection. I am delighted that this hotplug thingy works. Cheerio! -- Fielder George Dowding, KL7FHX dba Iceworm Enterprises Debian GNU/Linux Lenny User Number 269482 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community update
Minh, On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Minh Ha Duong hadu...@centre-cired.fr wrote: 6. Tips and tricks * Howto get the wrench and QWERTY buttons in 2008.12 with the ASU theme. I followed the instructions, but misread the second step. It told me to 'put asu in /etc/enlightenment/default_profile'. So, I did 'mv asutab /etc/enlightenment/default_profile' and borked my default_profile file. Could anyone put this file either on the mailing list, or on the Wiki for me? Thanks in advance! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] runaway proc events/0 automatic reboot
El día Tuesday, January 13, 2009 a las 02:38:45PM +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors escribió: Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de writes: only; perhaps there are more o complexer situations cuasing that problem :-( In any case, try compiling linux from andy-tracking branch. Until now I have only compiled kernels and apps in FreeBSD or Linux on x86 and I've no experience how to compile and build a kernel for Om2008.x on armv4; Is the Wiki page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_developer_guide the point to start from to create my own Om2008.x kernel and userland or some other/better places to start? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ SPAMer of the year: Subject: Alle Software ist Deutsche Sprachen From: -40 % die Neujahrsaktion gabriellekel...@grungecafe.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
