Re: FrogPad Freerunner

2009-01-18 Thread John Sullivan
Thomas Markus thomas.mar...@phil.uu.nl writes:

 On 1/17/09 12:39 AM, Braydon Fuller wrote:
 Has anybody had any experience with this keyboard?

 http://www.frogpad.com/
 http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/6c82/zoom/


 My girlfriend is using one at work all the time and likes it a lot. It 
 takes some time to get used to though. It takes about 2 to 3 weeks to 
 get up to speed again, but learning dvorak is probably harder :)

 I'm also considering one in combination with a FR on the road for text 
 entry. Haven't tested it though, but it's just a regular USB-keyboard so 
 it should work just fine.

I'm using the bluetooth frogpad with my FR. Works great. It's a little
bulkier than I expected though, and it's not very useful unless you're
sitting down.

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Re: GPSDproxy: send GPS data from gpsd to a remote server

2009-01-18 Thread Petr Vanek
I released a little software to proxy GPS data read from gpsd to 
a remote server. I use it to store my live track on a Postgres 
database (running on my home server) via GPRS connection.

this is really cool :)

anybody know of a server side implementation for data visualization,
something like is used for aprs (gps/weather etc data sent via
radio)? , for example aprs.fi?


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Jabra BT3030 experience anywhere ?

2009-01-18 Thread Lothar Behrens

Hi,

I like to know if someone has used this bluetooth stereo headset and  
how the steps are to got it running.
Also I like to know what distributions are actually having a fully  
functional bluetooth.


I have had FSO image milestone 4.1 that at least was able to see the  
headset when scanning but I was
not able to do the bonding steps with the dbus command line samples,  
that I do not find today (link).


With that samples and the passkey-agent --default   I only got  
error messages that tell me
there is no reply to the dbus command. Removing the --print-replay  
didn't helped anyway.


Also I tried some python scripts that did not work due to a missing  
import (gtk). Where is the related module ?
I didn't found any with opkg list | grep gtk. There are some, but I  
don't know what to install. Any hints therefore ?


BTW, I updated my FSO image milestone 4.1 yesterday and got a brick :-)

There is an issue with the touch screen driver that doesn't function  
anymore. If someone updates, please capture

the output for review here (I haven't done it :-)

If there is any success with that pice I will know it.

I'll test another phone image today if I have time.

Thanks

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Re: Freerunner LightSaber

2009-01-18 Thread Tim Dobson
kris Occhipinti wrote:
 I forgot to mention the need for pygame.
 I'm still running  om2008.9
 and I installed pygame like this
 g iopkg install 
 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/armv4t/python/python-pygame_1.7.1-ml2_armv4t.ipk
 
 If you have pygame installed it should work,
 I'll look into the pygame.error: No available audio device
 and installing pygame should brick your distro.

installing pygame bricks 2008.9?

*is in the process of doing it anyway*

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Re: e[sho]ternal usb networking problems

2009-01-18 Thread arne anka
i do not recall any specific error messages you posted.
but that might be because of the high traffic of this list.
so, please, specify what exactly does not work:
- what exactly are you trying to achieve? connecting your host via wlan to  
inet and accessing inet from your fr through usb to host?
- are you able to connect to your ap? does inet work?
- are you able to connect to/fro your pc via usb?
- did you enable forwarding and do you use different subnets?

please, post the output of
ifconfig -a
of both the host and fr. if you are behind a router (your wlan ap probably  
act as one), there's no need to obscure the ip addresses -- in fact they  
are necessary to narrow down your problem.

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Re: debian and openoffice

2009-01-18 Thread Davide Scaini
if it helps: abiword works nicely
d

On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 3:06 AM, gnu...@no-log.org wrote:

  Hi,
 
  Anyone can use openoffice with debian?
 
  I try to open, but the process starts and stop without error...
 
  Thanks,
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Re: [Om2008.9] FR switches on and boots by its own

2009-01-18 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de writes:
 (or does it somehow via the hardware clock?). I even did a test moving

Surely it uses hardware clock, otherwise it would not be able to wake
up from suspend.

 the alarm time to 12am, powered-off the FR and it die not came up at
 12am? So, what it makes booting at six?

What does

cat /proc/driver/rtc

print?

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Re: Workaround for using speech-dispatcher without blocking /dev/dsp for other apps

2009-01-18 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
Interesting workaround ;)
Pratically, the only modules to cheange from alsa to oss (for me) are:
- espeak.conf
- festival.conf
- flite.conf
- ibmtts.conf

But, for a n00b like me, it is not clear how the 
/etc/init.d/speech-dispatcher file should be adapted. Could you provide 
directly the adapted file?

Regards,

Korbinian Rosenegger wrote:
 Hi
 
 Many of you had problems with openmoocow not mooing or lightsaber not
 starting and complaining about No available audio device. This is
 often (always?) caused by speech-dispatcher blocking /dev/dsp.
 
 So here's a workaround for using speech-dispatcher without blocking the
 sound device for applications that use OSS. It's using the OSS output of
 speech-dispatcher and starting it with the alsa-oss wrapper for using
 ALSA. The reason for this is because the OSS output opens the sound
 device only when needed for speech output while the ALSA output keeps it
 open all the time (which wouldn't be a problem when using ALSA only
 since then the drivers can do mixing, but the OSS compability layer in
 the kernel does not support mixing (as fas as i understood it, has to be
 done in userspace with dmix)). I tried it with dmix on my freerunner,
 but it sounds rather bad, so I found this workaround.
 
 Steps to do:
 
 - Install alsa-oss and add a missing link:
  opkg install alsa-oss
  ln -s /usr/lib/libaoss.so.0 /usr/lib/libaoss.so
 - Change the output method of all used modules
   in /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules/*.conf from alsa to oss
 - Use the aoss wrapper in /etc/init.d/speech-dispatcher. Do this twice 
   there (once for start in line 18, once for restart in line 31). Change
   the second line from --exec $DAEMON to --exec aoss -- $DAEMON:
 start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --pidfile $PIDFILE \
   --exec aoss -- $DAEMON
 - Restart speech-dispatcher
 - Enjoy openmoocow or ko-lightsaber while speech-dispatcher is running
 
 
 I hope I haven't forgot a step here.
 If any of you has a better solution please let us know.
 (Of course you also can run lightsaber or openmoocow with the aoss
 wrapper without touching speech-dispatcher. Maybe this is the better
 solution, but then you have to touch every app that uses OSS, and maybe
 you'll get similar bad quality as with dmix like I did.)
 
 Maybe someone knows if it is possible to let speech-dispatcher behave
 the same with the alsa output method to open the sound device only when
 it's needed?
 
 
 Have fun :)
 
 Korbi


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Re: Freerunner LightSaber

2009-01-18 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
Stopping speech-sipatcher it works, but it seems a bit slow to percept 
the movements... however, great app, thanks!!

Korbinian Rosenegger wrote:
 Hi
 
 On Sat, 2009-01-17 at 18:30 +0100, Francesco de Virgilio wrote:
 Great app, but...
 On 2008.12 I've installed python-pygame and this follows when I try to 
 run the program:

 r...@om-gta02:~# export DISPLAY=:0
 r...@om-gta02:~# ko-lightsaber
 Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/bin/ko-lightsaber, line 32, in module
  pygame.mixer.init()
 pygame.error: No available audio device

 Any tip?
 
 Try stopping speech-dispatcher or running lightsaber with the aoss
 wrapper.
 Also have a look at my other mail (Workaround for speech-dispatcher)
 when this works for you.
 
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Alsa headers

2009-01-18 Thread Rémy Lefevre
Hello,

I would know how to get alsa-headers for Om2008.12 in order to cross-compile
a software using alsa.

Thanks.

Rémy.
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Re: [Om2008.12] Adding swap space can stop app crashes

2009-01-18 Thread Fox Mulder
Nick Van Fossen wrote:
 Just as a helpful note, adding swap space seems to help against
 application crashes.  I've always had issues with
 tangoGPS and the various webbrower apps crashing.  Looking into it a
 little more I notice that this was occurring when the
 puny 128MB of memory was getting filled up.  So, I added a swap file
 onto my microSD card and have had these problems
 practically clear up.  Anyone else had any similar experiences?  If this
 is a true fix this should probably go onto the wiki. 

I can agree with your findings. I also use a swap file with debian
because without it freezes quite a lot when starting many applications
and the memory got filled up. But i only added 64MB of swap and that is
enough to never got debian freeze again. :)

Ciao,
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Re: Freerunner LightSaber

2009-01-18 Thread matthias
For me (running OM2008.12) ko-lightsaber works fine with the following
tweakings:

echo 100  /sys/devices/platform/lis302dl.2/sample_rate
echo5  /sys/devices/platform/lis302dl.2/threshold

play around with threshold-values around 10.
cat /sys/devices/platform/lis302dl.2/threshold says 0 (???), but it
works fine now.

I removed speech-dispatcher from /etc/init.d/ and rc5.d/ and only start
it with navit and end when quitting navit via bash-skript.

I am your father, Luke! *heavy breathing* :D


Francesco de Virgilio schrieb:
 Stopping speech-sipatcher it works, but it seems a bit slow to percept 
 the movements... however, great app, thanks!!

 Korbinian Rosenegger wrote:
   
 Hi

 On Sat, 2009-01-17 at 18:30 +0100, Francesco de Virgilio wrote:
 
 Great app, but...
 On 2008.12 I've installed python-pygame and this follows when I try to 
 run the program:

 r...@om-gta02:~# export DISPLAY=:0
 r...@om-gta02:~# ko-lightsaber
 Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/bin/ko-lightsaber, line 32, in module
  pygame.mixer.init()
 pygame.error: No available audio device

 Any tip?
   
 Try stopping speech-dispatcher or running lightsaber with the aoss
 wrapper.
 Also have a look at my other mail (Workaround for speech-dispatcher)
 when this works for you.

 cu Korbi



 

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Re: Freerunner LightSaber

2009-01-18 Thread Davide Scaini
Someone tryed it with success on debian?
d

On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Stopping speech-sipatcher it works, but it seems a bit slow to percept
 the movements... however, great app, thanks!!

 Korbinian Rosenegger wrote:
  Hi
 
  On Sat, 2009-01-17 at 18:30 +0100, Francesco de Virgilio wrote:
  Great app, but...
  On 2008.12 I've installed python-pygame and this follows when I try to
  run the program:
 
  r...@om-gta02:~# export DISPLAY=:0
  r...@om-gta02:~# ko-lightsaber
  Traceback (most recent call last):
 File /usr/bin/ko-lightsaber, line 32, in module
   pygame.mixer.init()
  pygame.error: No available audio device
 
  Any tip?
 
  Try stopping speech-dispatcher or running lightsaber with the aoss
  wrapper.
  Also have a look at my other mail (Workaround for speech-dispatcher)
  when this works for you.
 
  cu Korbi
 
 
 
  
 
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Re: [debian] LXDE?

2009-01-18 Thread mqy

I've switched from debian+LXDE to SHR for several weeks.
ShR is not perfect though, it is not released yet.

2009/1/18 arne anka (via Nabble) ml-user+362-447886...@n2.nabble.com:
 ok, i just played around with lxde and i am going to purge it immediately.
 my main points:
 - almost every component needs a font setting on its own. the default is
 10pt and that's so big you can't read anything, not to speak of buttons
 being out of reach
 - while lxde is able to recognice the resolution of 640x480 it fails
 miserably at resizing its dialogs. there are no scrollbars and mostly the
 have a stupid with of 640 just becaus it seems to be hardcoded somewhere
 and thus dropdownlist etc are stretched to match that min width ...
 - configuration facilities are sparse. so far i found one for
 appearance, which does not match everything and one for openbox, the
 window manager. how to remove the lot of applets jamming the panle and how
 to add applets or another panel is impossible to say. the config files
 used sem to be rather obscure -- obconf, the openbox configurator, creates
 a rc.xml which obviously is not used; since the dialogs are too big i
 started them via ssh -X at the host, but whatever i did -- the changes
 never appeared on the fr; even manipulating manually the xml did not do
 anything.
 - it might be more resource friendly, but it requires hal to run and fam
 or the like, the lxappearances tool requires gtk-themes and does not
 install without
 - alltogether seems lxde far less finder/stylus friendly than xfce -- i
 started lxlauncher which offers a tabbed gui, like the eeepc has (had?),
 since i considered it far superior to a popup menu -- but after all the
 trouble with the fonts it started up with 10 or 12pt fonts; totally
 unsusable and no obvious way to change that (one should think that setting
 the font size with _two_ tools should be enough ...)

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Re: Is there an echo-free distro?

2009-01-18 Thread Margo Koppelmann
When I was using FDOM 20080927 I changed control.4 (Speaker Playback Volume)
in /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state to 117 and I had no echo
problem. Now I'm using 2008.12. I tried the same there, but it didn't help.
Then I copied the gsmhandset.state from my old FDOM backup, but the echo was
still there. Then I played with alsamixer during a call and I discovered,
that if I change the control.5 (Mono Playback Volume) to 85, then the echo
is gone!



On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.comwrote:

 2009/1/16 Tha_Man jeroenb...@hotmail.com:
 
 
  Neil Jerram wrote:
 
  2009/1/15 Gabriel cont...@huau-gabriel.fr:
  Hackable1 is echo free no ?
 
  (personnaly i have no echo)
 
  I also have no echo with H1.
 
 Neil
 
  What version of H1 are you using?

 Rev 2

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Re: handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display

2009-01-18 Thread Yorick Moko
haven't tried it, but there is also Strokerecog:
https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/strokerecog/

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:22 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote:
 there's rosetta
 http://www.handhelds.org/project/rosetta/
 and i managed to compile it and install on my debian/fso.
 but so far i had not much time to test it (wasn't that convincing the
 first tries), and anyway it seems pretty much abandoned.

 another attempt is cellwriter
 http://risujin.org/cellwriter
 which at least is in debian -- i totally forgot about this until now, have
 to try it come weekend.

 both are not really like graffiti, which best part was the standardized
 shapes instead of complex learning and recognizing algorithm for every
 single hand.

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Re: [debian] LXDE?

2009-01-18 Thread arne anka
 I've switched from debian+LXDE to SHR for several weeks.
 ShR is not perfect though, it is not released yet.

i am perfectly happy with debian (in fact. it was a major point when  
purchaisng the fr that debian will run on it, not some home made linux  
distribution).
what i was looking for was a more finger/stylus friendly and maybe more  
econimical (memory- and cpuwise) gui.
since somebody asked for reports, i posted my experiences.

the most interesting thing was/is the tabbed gui, like the eeepc comes  
with, which is delivered by lxlauncher.
lxlauncher in turn does not depend on lxde -- so i installed it again and  
started with xfce.
imagine my surprise when it came up: fonts were ok! still no way to  
configure anything, but excpet fonts there's not much to configure anyway  
(the tabs could be bigger, easier to hit with a finger).
i need to figure out, how the apps relate to the tabs; probably some entry  
in the .desktop file.

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Re: hub-ctrl as a way to remotely wake openmoko neo freerunner?

2009-01-18 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello,

On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 1:35 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors
timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote:
 I have been looking for a way to remotely wake up my openmoko
 freerunner from suspend when it is charging from my PC. When I heard
 of hub-ctrl from

Wouldn't it be better if the phone ran a daemon of sorts which just
changed the suspend setting to off when the usb port was connected?
(and restored the setting when the phone got disconnected, of course.

Not sure if this is doable from suspend, but it would be nice anyway
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Re: Freerunner LightSaber

2009-01-18 Thread Christian Reitwießner
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The Digital Pioneer schrieb:
 I guess SHR doesn't have pygame in the repos, and I don't feel like trying
 to brick my distro right now... :P Oh well.

I also use SHR and installed the pygame and libsmpeg packages from
http://rabenfrost.net/celtune/ipk/armv4t/
(without changing the sources.list)
The app works and it also seems that it didn't brake anything.
Generally, I made the experience that installing single packages from
the celtune repository is quite compatible with the SHR distribution.

Kind regards,
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Re: [Om2008.9] FR switches on and boots by its own

2009-01-18 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Sunday, January 18, 2009 a las 12:49:46PM +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors 
escribió:

  the alarm time to 12am, powered-off the FR and it die not came up at
  12am? So, what it makes booting at six?
 
 What does
 
 cat /proc/driver/rtc
 
 print?

r...@om-gta02:~# date
Sun Jan 18 14:25:38 CET 2009
r...@om-gta02:~# cat /proc/driver/rtc
rtc_time: 13:25:38
rtc_date: 2009-01-18
alrm_time   : 05:00:00
alrm_date   : 2009-01-19
alarm_IRQ   : yes
alrm_pending: no
24hr: yes

HIH

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Re: [debian] LXDE?

2009-01-18 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
 lxlauncher in turn does not depend on lxde -- so i installed it again
 and started with xfce.

What lxlancher package version fo you have installed? 

I have 0.2-2, and it just segfaults for me under matchbox session.

And that is already reported by someone as #498601 ...


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Re: [debian] LXDE?

2009-01-18 Thread arne anka
i do not use matchbox, but xfce4! the matchbox wm is far too limited, imo.

debian-gta02:~# dpkg -s lxlauncher
Package: lxlauncher
Status: install ok installed
Priority: extra
Section: x11
Installed-Size: 188
Maintainer: Andrew Lee and...@linux.org.tw
Architecture: armel
Version: 0.2-2
Depends: libatk1.0-0 (= 1.20.0), libc6 (= 2.7-1), libcairo2 (= 1.2.4),  
libglib2.0-0 (= 2.16.0), libgnome-menu2 (= 2.15.4), libgtk2.0-0 (=  
2.12.0), libpango1.0-0 (= 1.20.3), libstartup-notification0 (= 0.8-1),  
libx11-6
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Re: hub-ctrl as a way to remotely wake openmoko neo freerunner?

2009-01-18 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com writes:
 Wouldn't it be better if the phone ran a daemon of sorts which just
 changed the suspend setting to off when the usb port was connected?

That is a often a good idea.

However, in my scenario I want to specifically stress-test
suspend/resume cycle since there are many bugs[1] associated with
it. I can wake up the phone automatically with RTC timer but sometimes
it would be useful to wake it up also remotely if the timer fails
for some reason[2].

Second reason is that when the phone is connected to a laptop that has
limited battery capacity I would like to have the phone stay in
suspend when it can.

best regards,
Timo Lindfors

[1] http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//2126
[2] http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket//2156

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[Om2008.12] Disable / Enable Accelerometer

2009-01-18 Thread boilers...@gmail.com
Hi All,

if I've understood correctly, on Om2008.12 the Accelerometer does not get 
correctly recognized out of the box:
it sends useless data
and that's a kernel issue.

It seems that there aren't any kernel package that fixes it, please correct me 
if I'm wrong.

That said, I guess that the Accelerometer still drains battery power.

Question: it is possible to turn it off ?


Thanks for your attention,
have a nice day.
Mike

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Re: [debian] LXDE?

2009-01-18 Thread Christian Adams
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Am 18.01.2009 um 13:45 schrieb arne anka:

 I've switched from debian+LXDE to SHR for several weeks.
 ShR is not perfect though, it is not released yet.

 i am perfectly happy with debian (in fact. it was a major point when
 purchaisng the fr that debian will run on it, not some home made linux
 distribution).
 what i was looking for was a more finger/stylus friendly and maybe  
 more
 econimical (memory- and cpuwise) gui.
 since somebody asked for reports, i posted my experiences.

 the most interesting thing was/is the tabbed gui, like the eeepc comes
 with, which is delivered by lxlauncher.
 lxlauncher in turn does not depend on lxde -- so i installed it  
 again and
 started with xfce.
 imagine my surprise when it came up: fonts were ok! still no way to
 configure anything, but excpet fonts there's not much to configure  
 anyway
 (the tabs could be bigger, easier to hit with a finger).
 i need to figure out, how the apps relate to the tabs; probably  
 some entry
 in the .desktop file.


i just played a bit around with lxlauncher ..

have you read /usr/share/doc/lxlauncher/README yet?

and look in /usr/share/lxlauncher - you can find a gtkrc and a  
launcher.menu
where you can configure (i think) a lot of things ..

have some fun with configuring
cheers,
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Re: [Om2008.9] FR switches on and boots by its own

2009-01-18 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de writes:
 alrm_time   : 05:00:00

Depending on your timezone this probably means 6am rather than 12am?
Try setting it to 11:00:00




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Re: [Om2008.9] FR switches on and boots by its own

2009-01-18 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Sunday, January 18, 2009 a las 04:08:07PM +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors 
escribió:

 Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de writes:
  alrm_time   : 05:00:00
 
 Depending on your timezone this probably means 6am rather than 12am?
 Try setting it to 11:00:00

The 12am was only to make a test if it will come up from beeing
powered-off at 12am; it did not came up; this test was yesterday; after this I 
set the
alrm again to 6am and this morning the FR switched on at 6; but alrm is
disable for Saturday Sunday (in the settings); why the rtc brings up
even in this case the FR?

matthias

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Re: Freerunner LightSaber

2009-01-18 Thread kris Occhipinti
Well, I have Hackable1 installed on my Freerunner as well,
and I thought it would work on that no problem after installing
python-pygame.
But, after installing pygame (apt-get install python-pygame)
I tried to run it and I got an error message:
open /dev/sequencer or /dev/snd/seq: No such file or directory

The program doesn't crash, it keeps going, just with no sound.
Which, makes the app useless.
I'll play with it to day and see if I can get it going on Hackable1
and if I can it should run on Debain as well.
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Re: [Om2008.9] FR switches on and boots by its own

2009-01-18 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de writes:
 disable for Saturday Sunday (in the settings); why the rtc brings up
 even in this case the FR?

Can you see that it is disabled on those days from /sys or /proc
somewhere? I have not used the alarm/settings app you talk about.



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Re: [Om2008.12] Mokoko ... libid3tag0

2009-01-18 Thread rakshat hooja
The following is the cat of my .mokoko.conf file but it still does not see
the .ogg files in /media/card   -- what am i doing wrong?

Rakshat

r...@om-gta02:~# cat ~/.mokoko.conf
PATH=/media/card SUPPORT_MIME=mp3;ogg


On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 10:05 PM, boilers...@gmail.com boilers...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:10:04 +0200
 OpenMitko openmi...@gmail.com wrote:

  To play mp3 with mokoko you will need to nstall: (
  http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/)
 
  libmad
   gst-plugin-mad
 
  ... and it will work like charm :)
 
  (Thanks to Julian)
 
  Good luck!
  Mitko

 ups, Segmentation fault

 I've installed:

 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libxml2_2.7.2-r0.1_armv4t.ipk

 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libgcc1_4.2.4-r5.1_armv4t.ipk

 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libmad0_0.15.1b-r4.1_armv4t.ipk
 and

 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/gstreamer/gst-plugin-mad_0.10.7-r1.1_armv4t.ipk

 is that wrong ?

 (btw thanks for having teached me that
 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/ is a good place to where to
 find packages :))

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Re: handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display

2009-01-18 Thread Margo Koppelmann
There is also matchbox-stroke. It's in the openmoko repos. Just do: opkg
install matchbox-stroke. I tried it on Om2008.12 and I like it. But the
configuration file is incomplete, so it's impossible to enter many letters
and characters. Even space was not configured, I configured it manually in
the configuration file. So if someone would write a good configuration file
for it, it should be usable.

Matchbox-stroke puts a white space on the bottom of the screen. You don't
need so much space to write a character. I think we could use the
combination of handwriting and buttons. Maybe something like this -
http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/2745/strokemg2.png (I made it with GIMP).
The @#$ button would display an onscreen keyboard to enter special
characters (because I tink its hard to remember the strokes for all the
characters) and the mode button would toggle between number mode, lower
case mode and upper case mode. I tink this should be usable with fingers
too. I would do this myself, but I can't code :(

I think that if we had a good handwriting recognition program, all the
keyboard problems would be solved. At least for me. Because I used to have
Sony Ericsson P800 and I really liked it's handwriting recognition. I could
hold the phone in my hand and write the characters with the same hand's
thumb. I lost the stylus of my P800 long time ago and I wasn't missing it at
all.


On Debian I tried cellwriter too. It works really good, but it's only usable
with stylus.




On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote:

 haven't tried it, but there is also Strokerecog:
 https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/strokerecog/

 On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:22 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote:
  there's rosetta
  http://www.handhelds.org/project/rosetta/
  and i managed to compile it and install on my debian/fso.
  but so far i had not much time to test it (wasn't that convincing the
  first tries), and anyway it seems pretty much abandoned.
 
  another attempt is cellwriter
  http://risujin.org/cellwriter
  which at least is in debian -- i totally forgot about this until now,
 have
  to try it come weekend.
 
  both are not really like graffiti, which best part was the standardized
  shapes instead of complex learning and recognizing algorithm for every
  single hand.
 
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Re: Workaround for using speech-dispatcher without blocking /dev/dsp for other apps

2009-01-18 Thread Korbinian Rosenegger
Hi

On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 12:08 +0100, Francesco de Virgilio wrote:
 Interesting workaround ;)

Thanks :) 

 Pratically, the only modules to cheange from alsa to oss (for me) are:
 - espeak.conf
 - festival.conf
 - flite.conf
 - ibmtts.conf
 
 But, for a n00b like me, it is not clear how the 
 /etc/init.d/speech-dispatcher file should be adapted. Could you provide 
 directly the adapted file?

It's attached to this mail. 
I'm also setting LANG to de...@utf-8 for getting correct german speech
output, otherwise Straße would be spoken as Stra-s-z-e for example.
So you may also set this to your language.

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Re: [Om2008.9] FR switches on and boots by its own

2009-01-18 Thread Michael Kluge
According to this ticket:

https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1822

the FR does not wake up on alarm. Mine never wakes up on alarm. Neither 
from suspend nor when it's off.


Michael

Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb:
 Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de writes:
 disable for Saturday Sunday (in the settings); why the rtc brings up
 even in this case the FR?
 
 Can you see that it is disabled on those days from /sys or /proc
 somewhere? I have not used the alarm/settings app you talk about.


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Re: [Om2008.9] FR switches on and boots by its own

2009-01-18 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Michael Kluge volls...@gmail.com writes:
 https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1822

 the FR does not wake up on alarm. Mine never wakes up on alarm. Neither 
 from suspend nor when it's off.

My FR wakes up on RTC alarm with andy-tracking kernel. See

http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2156



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tangoGPS 0.9.5 is out

2009-01-18 Thread Marcus Bauer

Hello,

a new release of tangoGPS is out. Improvements are:

- better handling of broken NMEA (some people experienced crashers)
- fix for correct lat/lon display for eastern longitudes and southern
  latitudes
- Google has changed their URI scheme thus satellite imagery works now
  too - anyway, there is copyright on them, just use free alternatives
- a cool new default repository is opencycle map
- the whole repository dialog is now overhauled

...and a couple more things.

As usual you can get it at http://www.tangogps.org/

By the way, I will be at FOSDEM and spend some time at the GNOME stand.
Just drop by and say hello.

Have fun
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Re: [2008.12] Qwerty button and wrench for everyone

2009-01-18 Thread
Yoann ARNAUD schrieb:
 Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster a écrit :

   
 it works for me, but i hope it works for you too.
 

 It does not work for me. I replaced the folders themes and illume by yours.

 The screen was white, except for the bottom where I could recognize the
 top of the sim requiring tool.


   
hmpf.
maybe i forgot to cpoy all the necessary files. try this .e folder: 
http://jmccloud.jm.funpic.de/asu/e.zip

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Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?

2009-01-18 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
 Am Friday 16 January 2009 06:23:29 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño):
 I've not tried recent versions of the Framework with the GPS, how long
 does it take generally to get the fix, nowadays?
 
 Around a minute here -- with disable restoring (due to the bug). Last time we 
 enabled restoring in Taipei, we've seen TTFFs of 20-30s IIRC (Jan, Daniel?).

Ah, ok... I get it also in less than a minute generally with Om2008... I
was interested on the TTFF with restoring. I hope it could be re-enabled
soon ;)

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Re: Freerunner LightSaber

2009-01-18 Thread Charles-Henri Gros
matthias wrote:
 Fine, excactly the right thing for my boredom right now!
 but you should have mentioned the dependencies from python-pygame.
 on om2008.12 it seemed quite slow to me and did not recognized my
 movements, but let's try it a few more times!

Accelerometers don't appear to work correctly in 2008.12:

http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2145

There appears to be a workaround though

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Re: Alsa headers

2009-01-18 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Rémy Lefevre wrote:
 I would know how to get alsa-headers for Om2008.12 in order to
 cross-compile a software using alsa.

What about opkg-target install alsa-dev?

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[FSO] compiling with FSOMakefile 30+ hours?

2009-01-18 Thread Daniel Spies
Hi, 

I wanted to test FSO and check for this [1] issue. I'm using the FSOMakefile, 
and it's running for about two hours now. I saw a message stating Running 
task 410 of 6674. Does this mean I will have to let this running until 
tomorrow until I can flash the FR? Would mean 30+ hours until the FSOMakefile 
is 
done with that speed. 

I'm asking if it's worth waiting in front of my PC or if I can go out and 
check again tomorrow...

Cheers,
Daniel

[1] http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td662177

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Re: [FSO] compiling with FSOMakefile 30+ hours?

2009-01-18 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On my core2duo a full compile from scratch takes about 6 hours.

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Re: Roll The Dice

2009-01-18 Thread kris Occhipinti
OK,  I've added Alex's code and then created a startup screen that asks you
how many dice you want (1-5).

You can down load the updated app at the same link as before:
http://filmsbykris.com/freerunner-debian/ko-user/ko-dice.tar.gz

Thank you Alex  Nathan for your help
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Re: Re: [FSO] compiling with FSOMakefile 30+ hours?

2009-01-18 Thread Daniel Spies
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@openmoko.org wrote on Sunday 18 January 
2009:
 On my core2duo a full compile from scratch takes about 6 hours.

Okay, I got a 2.66 Ghz C2D but I assume it will take longer as I only got DSL 
Light (47 kb/s dl). Thank you!

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Booting Debian from SD-card (Was: [fso] sending pin failed)

2009-01-18 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 09:07:08PM +0100, Tomas Nackaerts wrote:
 
 i was also unable to boot a distribution like debian or hackable from a 8gb 
 sd-card, but i'm not sure it is related. 

   You're being cryptic here. Please explain how you know it isn't working.
Anyway, here's how I installed the Debian distribution to an 8 GB SD-card on
a Freerunner (still with Om 2007.2 in the NAND flash ROM):

--- begin Debian on Freerunner HOWTO ---
Purpose:
Install Debian on Neo Freerunner/1973 such that the default u-boot setup
works and dpkg, which doesn't support vfat partitions, is still happy.

Strategy:
Create two partitions (vfat+ext2) but install as if we only use one partition.
Manually copy the kernel image to the vfat partition after installation or
upgrade of the kernel package.

The details:
Read the instructions from the Debian Wiki and download install.sh for your
Neo:

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnNeo1973

Remap the partitions for install.sh:

# ln -s /dev/mmcblk0p2 /tmp/mmcblk0p1
# ln -s /dev/mmcblk0 /tmp/mmcblk0

Optionally: Verify your setup and set the system time:

# SD_PART1_FS=vfat SD_DEVICE=/tmp/mmcblk0 ./install.sh testing time

Partition and format your SDcard. Either do so yourself or use install.sh:

# SD_PART1_FS=vfat ./install.sh partition format

Run the rest of the installation. Feel free to add options as you see fit:

# SINGLE_PART=true SD_DEVICE=/tmp/mmcblk0 ./install.sh mount debian apt fso 
configuration kernel

Copy the kernel image to the vfat partition:

# mount -t vfat /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/card
# cp -p /mnt/debian/boot/uImage.bin /media/card
# umount /media/card

Optionally: Copy your existing SSH setup:
# cp -a ~root/.ssh /mnt/debian/root

Unmount the Debian partition:

# SINGLE_PART=true SD_DEVICE=/tmp/mmcblk0 ./install.sh unmount

Clean up:

# rm -f /tmp/mmcblk0 /tmp/mmcblk0p1 ./install.sh
--- end Debian on Freerunner HOWTO ---

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Re: Roll The Dice

2009-01-18 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Just a routine update. :) I redesigned the timer so that it starts when the
phone thinks it's being shaken, and in the process removed the threaded
timer entirely. I also cleaned up some other code a bit, removed superfluous
stuff like making sense of the time from accelerometer input and calculating
the square root of the sum of the axes squred (don't even know what that's
useful for, but it wasn't used so I got rid of the overhead).

These mods are made to the latest version, and my script is available in my
dropbox here: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/453116/ko-dice

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QWO tentative package for Debian is out

2009-01-18 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
I've built tentative Debian package under H1 (based on Debian), so it
should work on any more or less up-to-date Debian-based distro

deb file for armel is available from
http://itanix.rutgers.edu/rumba/dists/sid/perspect/binary-armel/x11/qwo_0.3+git20090110+6db30-1~pre3_armel.deb
or for i386 if you run Debian there as well
http://itanix.rutgers.edu/rumba/dists/sid/perspect/binary-i386/x11/qwo_0.3+git20090110+6db30-1~pre3_i386.deb

you can dget sources using this dsc
http://itanix.rutgers.edu/rumba/dists/sid/perspect/source/x11/qwo_0.3+git20090110+6db30-1~pre3.dsc

or just fetching from git repository (which will move eventually I hope
into upstream's):
http://git.onerussian.com/?p=deb/qwo.git;a=summary

There is still an issue to resolve with .desktop file, so I am waiting
on upstream's ideas/feedback, but you can give it a try on your phone.

Also, I guess, it is needed to discuss proper way (alternatives?) on how
to switch between different keyboards implementations on debian systems.
For now, you can do evil:

cd /usr/bin
mv xkbd xkbd.moved
ln -s qwo xkbd

to have qwo your default keyboard appearing on AUX press

since I had no time to figure out if used keyboard is configurable at
all atm. but I've given a try -- qwo works fine -- I can enter text ;-)

On Sat, 17 Jan 2009, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:

 nice news! but in which repos will it be placed? unstable or testing?
 testing is frozen already, so it can't get in there directly, thus
 'unstable' (ie sid)

 For testing (ie lenny atm) we can create a backport and I could host it
 off my repository
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Re: Alsa headers

2009-01-18 Thread Rémy Lefevre
Yeah! It's exactly what I would. Thanks a lot!

Rémy.
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Re: Jabra BT3030 experience anywhere ?

2009-01-18 Thread quatrox
I also got a BT3030.
I was able to connect to it, but could not set up pairing
correctly.

I will try again when I get more time.

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Re: debian and openoffice

2009-01-18 Thread Samuel Pereira

Thanks,

Samuel



Hi,

Anyone can use openoffice with debian?

I try to open, but the process starts and stop without error...

Thanks,
Samuel
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wait for ooo 3.1:
see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=501957


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Re: Jabra BT3030 experience anywhere ?

2009-01-18 Thread Steven King
On Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:50:26 Lothar Behrens wrote:
 Hi,

 I like to know if someone has used this bluetooth stereo headset and
 how the steps are to got it running.
 Also I like to know what distributions are actually having a fully
 functional bluetooth.

I have 2008.12 paired with my bt3030.  I had to install bluez-audio and 
bluez-util, restart bluetoothd and then run passkey-agent and then with the 
bt3030 in pairing mode, follow the steps from 
http://wiki.bluez.org/wiki/HOWTO/AudioDevices to connect to the bt3030.   A 
trivial attempt at a2dp seemed to work correctly.  Now if I can get the 
freerunner to do HSP with the bt3030 I'll be a happy camper...

 my /etc/asound.conf looks like:
# default dmix configuration

pcm.!default {
type plug
slave.pcm dmix
}

ctl.mixer0 {
type hw
card 0
}

pcm.bluetooth {
type bluetooth
device XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
profile auto
}

the sequence was something like:

~# opkg install bluez-audio blue-util

~# /etc/init.d/bluetooth stop

~# /etc/init.d/bluetooth start

~# passkey-agent --default  

~# dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.bluez /org/bluez \ 
org.bluez.Manager.ActivateService string:audio

~# dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply \
--dest=org.bluez /org/bluez/audio org.bluez.audio.Manager.CreateDevice \ 
string:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX

where XX:XX:XX:XX;XX is the baddr of the bt3030. Then

~# dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply \
--dest=org.bluez /org/bluez/audio/device0 org.bluez.audio.Sink.Connect

at that point I was able to do:

~# aplay -D bluetooth phone.wav

and get what sounded like a2dp on the bt3030.


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Re: Roll The Dice

2009-01-18 Thread kris Occhipinti
Great work Nathan.
I updated the package and Changed your credit from
With some minor hacking
to
With some major hacking

Thanks for all your help.
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Re: Re: [FSO] compiling with FSOMakefile 30+ hours?

2009-01-18 Thread William Kenworthy
shr-unstable took between 1 1/2 and two days on an amd 2500+ with the
number of cpu's set to 1

BillK

On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 20:27 +0100, Daniel Spies wrote:
 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@openmoko.org wrote on Sunday 18 January 
 2009:
  On my core2duo a full compile from scratch takes about 6 hours.
 
 Okay, I got a 2.66 Ghz C2D but I assume it will take longer as I only got DSL 
 Light (47 kb/s dl). Thank you!
 
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Re: Roll The Dice

2009-01-18 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Great!

How about an ipk and upload it to opkg.org?

r


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Re: Jabra BT3030 experience anywhere ?

2009-01-18 Thread Carl Lobo
Hi,
It seems like Steven managed to get his headset working routing the
sound over HCI. The FR has this high tech sound chip that is directly
connected to the GSM module and hence can (theoretically at least)
keep the CPU off while you're on a phone call. This mode also supports
full duplex (which AFAIK is unsupported using HCI routing) which means
you can use both the mic and speakers of the headset for a phone call.
I'm not sure if anyone has been able to send sound to the headset from
the CPU on a Freerunner using the Wolfson chip directly. The way the
FR is supposed to work though is the control channel of the headset
needs to be routed through HCI and the sound should be through the
wolfson, else it will end up eating out the battery.
I've not been able to get my Jawbone working with either way, it
doesn't have A2DP support...  It works with the same version of Bluez
using my laptop and other devices... The most I've gotten out of the
FR is that the connect and disconnect happens properly and it's acked
by the headset - HCI packets get sent using the method above, but no
sound on the FR. Same for the wolfson way. I've tried setting all the
alsa params possible... Maybe someone can shed some more light on
this.

On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:41 AM, Steven King sfkin...@yahoo.com wrote:
 On Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:50:26 Lothar Behrens wrote:
 Hi,

 I like to know if someone has used this bluetooth stereo headset and
 how the steps are to got it running.
 Also I like to know what distributions are actually having a fully
 functional bluetooth.

 I have 2008.12 paired with my bt3030.  I had to install bluez-audio and
 bluez-util, restart bluetoothd and then run passkey-agent and then with the
 bt3030 in pairing mode, follow the steps from
 http://wiki.bluez.org/wiki/HOWTO/AudioDevices to connect to the bt3030.   A
 trivial attempt at a2dp seemed to work correctly.  Now if I can get the
 freerunner to do HSP with the bt3030 I'll be a happy camper...

  my /etc/asound.conf looks like:
 # default dmix configuration

 pcm.!default {
type plug
slave.pcm dmix
 }

 ctl.mixer0 {
type hw
card 0
 }

 pcm.bluetooth {
type bluetooth
device XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
profile auto
 }

 the sequence was something like:

 ~# opkg install bluez-audio blue-util

 ~# /etc/init.d/bluetooth stop

 ~# /etc/init.d/bluetooth start

 ~# passkey-agent --default  

 ~# dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.bluez /org/bluez \
 org.bluez.Manager.ActivateService string:audio

 ~# dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply \
 --dest=org.bluez /org/bluez/audio org.bluez.audio.Manager.CreateDevice \
 string:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX

 where XX:XX:XX:XX;XX is the baddr of the bt3030. Then

 ~# dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply \
 --dest=org.bluez /org/bluez/audio/device0 org.bluez.audio.Sink.Connect

 at that point I was able to do:

 ~# aplay -D bluetooth phone.wav

 and get what sounded like a2dp on the bt3030.


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