Re: Pimlico on the Freerunner ?
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:45:24 +0100 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz (PV) wrote: I just discoverd the Pimlico project : http://pimlico-project.org/ which aims at providing a simple Pim solution for mobile devices. The website links to some pre-built binaries, but there are none for the gta02. i think this is a continuation of their famous DateBk for palm. i have been using this since 2002 and although there is competitive software for palm out there, DateBk really rocks. They charged about 20USD for it which i paid twice and never regretted that. Making it working on fr would be really cool! Petr hmm, seems that pimlicosoftware.com and pimlico-project.org have no connection. just confusingly similar project names... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gentoo on freerunner
2009/1/19 Mathieu Rochette math...@gmail.com: Hello Mathieu, I'm a project members of the Gentoo overlay for the Freerunner. In the last weeks we managed tobe included in the official Gentoo-Overlay. So you can find our overlay at http://overlays.gentoo.org/proj/embedded or get it via layman. As Damien already said, it contains some cross-compile fixes, ebuilds for the FSO framework and different PhoneGUIs, so I highly suggest to start from the overlay. Our biggest problem right now is the poor documentation... :-( One thing you can do is to post to the http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/gentoo/ Mailinglist or join us in the #gentoo-openmoko IRC channel on freenode. One solution I read about (and seems great) is to install crossdev on my desktop PC to create a system for armv4t. I was using paludis but switch back to emerge recently. I think either one is ok? Both should work. Finaly, I have a remark about the embded overlay I found (I guess the mainteners read this list). It provides fso software and various stuff. It also provide enlightenment. This is just a suggestion, but I think it would be better to rely on vapier's overlay for that. We include newer versions of E17 and EFL to keep track of the fast illume development. But the plan is to later feed back our work to Gentoo in general and also to the Enlightenment overlay. Mathieu. Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)
Rask Ingemann Lambertsen ha scritto: On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 04:12:19PM +0100, Tilman Baumann wrote: Untested code: import httplib conn = httplib.HTTPConnection(tile.openstreetmap.org) conn.request(HEAD, /file...) r1 = conn.getresponse() print r1.status, r1.reason etag = getheader(ETag) print etag And if stuff was new, make GET instead of HEAD It sure would be more efficient if OSM supported the If-Modified-Since: header in a GET request. Then you wouldn't need the HEAD request. Also, consider using the same connection for multiple requests. It ought to help a lot with such small files. where can i found httplib package for openmoko? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Syncing OpenMoko with Sunbird/Lightning events and tasks
Pander a écrit : Hi all, Which applications on OpenMoko would be suitable for importing and exporting (syncing) data like events and tasks from Sunbird/Lightning? Preferably via the use of http://www.opensync.org/ Or, has someone already tried to compile sunbird ? -- Yoann. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)
Helge Hafting ha scritto: Carlo Minucci wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh! i a simple interface for update the maps of tangogps it's optimized for low band usage A very good idea, but it does not work yet. My maps are in /media/card/kart/, but yaouh thinks they are in /home/root/Maps. so it doesn't check my 5 tiles. i found the bug :) go to line 83 of the yaouh.py and add a new line, after dir = out[2], with j = n and test it now it should work ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om 2008.12] qtopia-Keyboard still keeps annoying me
Hello I followed the Howto in the Openmoko-Wiki to replace the qtopia-kbd by the Illume kbd. QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1 is set. But the qtopia-kbd still pops up from time to time on the first virtual desktop and stays there for good (it cannot be popped-down by the qwerty-Symbol). On the other desktops the Illume kbd works, but the qtopia-kbd leaves annoying graphical traces when switching to another desktop (a horizontal bar across the display showing the silly predictive suggestions). Also, when Enlightenment is restarted after a crash, the qtopia-kbd automatically replaces the Raster's till the next reboot. Is there any way to prevent the interfering qtopia-kbd more forcefully? Can it be safely deinstalled for ever? Thanks for help Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Call for Illume keyboards and keyboard icons
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com writes: aah cool. hindi and tamil don't have spaces either? They have spaces. Greetings Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Syncing OpenMoko with Sunbird/Lightning events and tasks
Pander a écrit : Hi all, Which applications on OpenMoko would be suitable for importing and exporting (syncing) data like events and tasks from Sunbird/Lightning? Preferably via the use of http://www.opensync.org/ Pimlico, but it's not realeased yet. http://pimlico-project.org/sync.html -- Yoann. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pimlico on the Freerunner ?
Hi all For those under SHR, you need to add the scaredycat repository to install openmoko-dates2 and openmoko-task2. To do so : cd /etc/opkg wget http://buildhost.automated.it/scaredycat.conf opkg update And then opkg install openmoko-dates2 openmoko-tasks2 Feedback compared to the ubuntu version : * In Tasks, - I am not able to add a category. - I cannot add a description * I have not tested Dates yes 2009/1/20 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:45:24 +0100 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz (PV) wrote: I just discoverd the Pimlico project : http://pimlico-project.org/ which aims at providing a simple Pim solution for mobile devices. The website links to some pre-built binaries, but there are none for the gta02. i think this is a continuation of their famous DateBk for palm. i have been using this since 2002 and although there is competitive software for palm out there, DateBk really rocks. They charged about 20USD for it which i paid twice and never regretted that. Making it working on fr would be really cool! Petr hmm, seems that pimlicosoftware.com and pimlico-project.org have no connection. just confusingly similar project names... Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tangoGPS 0.9.5 is out
Marcus Bauer wrote: Hello, a new release of tangoGPS is out. Thanks! The new tangogps works fine on my freerunner. There is one small problem - it still does not look good when the position cursor moves under the displayed speed. Everything seems fine otherwise. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pimlico on the Freerunner ?
kimaidou a écrit : Hi all For those under SHR, you need to add the scaredycat repository to install openmoko-dates2 and openmoko-task2. To do so : cd /etc/opkg wget http://buildhost.automated.it/scaredycat.conf opkg update And then opkg install openmoko-dates2 openmoko-tasks2 Feedback compared to the ubuntu version : * In Tasks, - I am not able to add a category. - I cannot add a description * I have not tested Dates yes Is it the same version ? In the repository, I can see the 0.1.0 version of openmoko-dates2 and the last release on the website is 0.4.6. Maybe that's not up to date. And I'm looking for an ipkg of the 0.4.6 ;) -- Yoann. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)
William Kenworthy wrote: On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 14:54 +0100, Helge Hafting wrote: Carlo Minucci wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh! i a simple interface for update the maps of tangogps it's optimized for low band usage A very good idea, but it does not work yet. My maps are in /media/card/kart/, but yaouh thinks they are in /home/root/Maps. so it doesn't check my 5 tiles. I have tangogps set up that way, because there is more room on the 8GB card, and it isn't blanked when I flash a new SHR image. I do not know where tangogps keeps this information though. Helge Hafting After trying a few different things, now one of my first moves is to delete /home/root/Maps and replace it with a symlink to the SD card Maps directory. Thanks for the tip - the workaround worked. Where I live (Perth, Western Australia) there are large areas of surrounding sea/land/forestry/desert etc that use a single colour tile - each of only 103 bytes. I symlinked all identical files (based on md5sum) such that only one copy of each is kept. This has the advantage that as ext2/3 uses fast-symlinks, the actual symlink (provided the path is 60 characters) is stored in the inode and doesnt take any block space on the FS. This shrinks the size as given by du -sh from 3.3Gb down to ~550Mb. Interesting idea. Half of my tiles are blank too. But what happens when tangogps (or yaouh or whatever) re-downloads some previously blank tile that now has a new road on it? Will the link break for that tile? Or will the sole blank tile be replaced, so that every blank area now has the same road on it? I don't keep a tile repositiory on my desktop, I download directly to the freerunner. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)
Carlo Minucci wrote: Helge Hafting ha scritto: Carlo Minucci wrote: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh! i a simple interface for update the maps of tangogps it's optimized for low band usage A very good idea, but it does not work yet. My maps are in /media/card/kart/, but yaouh thinks they are in /home/root/Maps. so it doesn't check my 5 tiles. i found the bug :) go to line 83 of the yaouh.py and add a new line, after dir = out[2], with j = n and test it now it should work I removed the Maps/OSM symlink, and did this change. It seems to work! :-) I noticed another problem yesterday though. I worked around the problem by making a symlink, and the program ran. I have slightly more than 50.000 tiles. After a while, Yaouh had worked through 12000, updating about 4000. It seems 1 in 3 tiles were changed. This took a lot of time, so I left it running overnight. It crashed sometimes during the night, and the disk was not full. The log file merely told that yaouh.py was interrupted by a segmentation fault. Could there be a memory leak? Or will yaouh use memory proportional to the number of tiles (or perhaps the number of out-of-date tiles)? With 128M and 5 tiles, there is no more than 2684 bytes per tile. So linear memory consumption will not work well. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] To build a better music player
Steven ** wrote: Unless I'm misinterpreting, what you want is already there. Just select the directory and add it. This assumes your music is sorted with each album in a subdirectory, which seems pretty common. Ah, so that is what the button with the square do. I use + when adding songs. But + on a directory merely opens it for viewing. The square does nothing for a single file. Thanks for the tip. Ability to select several (but not necessarily all) songs in one go would still be nice. I.e. mark all the interesting ones and then hit add. Showing which of the songs that already are on the playlist is useful too. Perhaps a different color for those. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pimlico on the Freerunner ?
Hmm - pimlico looks much nicer than qtopia-contacts. Any package for this? Rather than develop new generic framework that can be configured to do anything (paroli and friends) - could we not write a dialler that uses this contact management for a quick and easy solution? - Gunnar Samuel Pereira wrote: Hi, If you check this page ...http://pimlico-project.org/dates.html They have a screenshoot of FR. This packages are on opkg. opkg install openmoko-dates2 openmoko-tasks2 In OM2008.x Contacts uses other package from qtopia. Samuel Hi list I just discoverd the Pimlico project : http://pimlico-project.org/ which aims at providing a simple Pim solution for mobile devices. The website links to some pre-built binaries, but there are none for the gta02. I would like to know if someone had or could package the sources for the freerunner ? Thanks in advance Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Freerunner] Access GPS chip's parameters and navigational models?
Olivier Migeot wrote: Hi ev'ryone, I'm currently experimenting things with the Antaris chip, and I'm starting to like it - at least through FSO and it's gpsd compatibility layer. I've been browsing through the UBX protocol specification, and I stumbled upon one interesting parameter : the dynamic platform model of the navigational unit. Simply put : using this, we should be able to explain our chip that we are either by car or by foot, and get more serious tracklogs (providing this is doable, 'cause the doc states (SW Versions 3.04 and higher), so I'm not sure whether or not we qualify). I did some quick tests, using my work phone as a reference (an HTC Trinity with a Sirf chip) : when logging car trips, both tracks are pretty close. Like a few meters. Far better than what I expected, at least. But when logging pedestrian trips (and I do quite a few), the Antaris starts to behave like ... a car. Every steep turn I took is throughly rounded on the Neo-based log. So I guess the current setting of our chip is car. So I wonder : does anyone here know whether we got version 3.04 or higher of the software? I see the opposite. My SiRF unit rounds a lot, and may decide to cut out a walk around the house completely. But I can walk the Antaris around a 4mx4m square and record a square with nice sharp corners. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2008.12] Mediaserver / Qpe
Dear List, the processes mediaplayer and qpe are draining all the cpu power even if I shutdown / reboot. This is the hierarchy of the processes: 546 ?Sl 0:41 \_ qpe 608 ?RN 0:02 \_ /opt/Qtopia/bin/quicklauncher 864 ?R 0:00 \_ /opt/Qtopia/bin/mediaserver -noshow this is an excerpt of 'top': 880 root 20 0 25932 7876 7044 R 72.6 6.2 0:01.55 mediaserver 881 root 20 0 2248 1024 816 R 7.9 0.8 0:00.14 top 281 root 30 10 000 S 6.3 0.0 0:10.99 jffs2_gcd_mtd6 497 root 19 -1 14844 7848 1644 S 6.3 6.2 0:15.83 Xglamo 608 root 39 19 25224 4516 3956 R 1.6 3.6 0:03.17 quicklauncher 1 root 20 0 1524 560 500 S 0.0 0.4 0:04.80 init kill, kill -9, killall, killall -9: they all does nothing. The phone receives calls and sms it vibrates but id does not ring. Can you help me ? Regards, Mike ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)
On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 11:00 +0100, Helge Hafting wrote: William Kenworthy wrote: ... Where I live (Perth, Western Australia) there are large areas of surrounding sea/land/forestry/desert etc that use a single colour tile - each of only 103 bytes. I symlinked all identical files (based on md5sum) such that only one copy of each is kept. This has the advantage that as ext2/3 uses fast-symlinks, the actual symlink (provided the path is 60 characters) is stored in the inode and doesnt take any block space on the FS. This shrinks the size as given by du -sh from 3.3Gb down to ~550Mb. Interesting idea. Half of my tiles are blank too. But what happens when tangogps (or yaouh or whatever) re-downloads some previously blank tile that now has a new road on it? Will the link break for that tile? Or will the sole blank tile be replaced, so that every blank area now has the same road on it? I don't keep a tile repositiory on my desktop, I download directly to the freerunner. Helge Hafting Check if you have run out of inodes - there are only so many to go around! - this was a problem foe until I realised it as it looks like there is plenty of room, but strange crashes and the like occur as there are no free inodes. and $ echo aa aa $ ln -s aa bb $ echo cc bb $ cat aa $ cc So it will overwrite. Not a problem for me as I dont use gprs (too expensive in Oz for casual use, and coverage is miserable outside the central capitals and large towns.) and the desktop system is always the master. Started out this way as kept losing the partition in the early days and ext2/3 is not a very good filesystem for devices like this anyway, corruption occurs quite readily so I dont trust it :) Alternatively, identify the symlined master and make it read only - wont update, but wont overwrite all similar tiles either. Also, I didnt think tangogps overwrote files already downloaded - it uses them from the cache instead - will have to test the download dialog, but I seem to remember that didnt download existing tiles either. BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] To build a better music player
An ipk would be appreciated for an easy testing :) (and maybe upload it to opkg.org?) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Replacement Battery with 2300mAh, possible?
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 00:39:35 +0100, Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com wrote: Sometimes they are not putting the right specifications on the batteries. Right now I have in my other phone (k700i) battery with the capacity double of the original one. But this is just a label. Uptime is the same as with the original battery. My point being that for more capacity you need to have bigger battery. It's not possible to contain more energy in the same amount of electrolyte. Ate least not for a battery for 11 euro. Leonti I see. I was also wondering about the price of 11 Eur if this battery really should deliver 2300mAh. Never mind, for now I'm fine with my backup BL-C5 to wake my FR from battery-death. Thanks! -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Call for Illume keyboards and keyboard icons
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I mean that Thai is like Chinese in that it doesn't have spaces but like Hindi when it comes to the style of script and input methods. AlexBKK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)
On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 19:44 +0900, William Kenworthy wrote: On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 11:00 +0100, Helge Hafting wrote: William Kenworthy wrote: ... Where I live (Perth, Western Australia) there are large areas of surrounding sea/land/forestry/desert etc that use a single colour tile - each of only 103 bytes. I symlinked all identical files (based on md5sum) such that only one copy of each is kept. This has the advantage that as ext2/3 uses fast-symlinks, the actual symlink (provided the path is 60 characters) is stored in the inode and doesnt take any block space on the FS. This shrinks the size as given by du -sh from 3.3Gb down to ~550Mb. Interesting idea. Half of my tiles are blank too. But what happens when tangogps (or yaouh or whatever) re-downloads some previously blank tile that now has a new road on it? Will the link break for that tile? Or will the sole blank tile be replaced, so that every blank area now has the same road on it? I don't keep a tile repositiory on my desktop, I download directly to the freerunner. Helge Hafting Check if you have run out of inodes - there are only so many to go around! - this was a problem foe until I realised it as it looks like there is plenty of room, but strange crashes and the like occur as there are no free inodes. and $ echo aa aa $ ln -s aa bb $ echo cc bb $ cat aa $ cc So it will overwrite. Not a problem for me as I dont use gprs (too expensive in Oz for casual use, and coverage is miserable outside the central capitals and large towns.) and the desktop system is always the master. Started out this way as kept losing the partition in the early days and ext2/3 is not a very good filesystem for devices like this anyway, corruption occurs quite readily so I dont trust it :) Alternatively, identify the symlined master and make it read only - wont update, but wont overwrite all similar tiles either. Also, I didnt think tangogps overwrote files already downloaded - it uses them from the cache instead - will have to test the download dialog, but I seem to remember that didnt download existing tiles either. BillK A little thought - if a tile is to be replaced, delete it first (and therefore if its a symlink, problem solved. Scripts like yaouh could be easily adapted - tangogps, may not be necessary - need to prove that. BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pimlico on the Freerunner ?
I'll try and get some packages up soon, but I've never packaged anything for Debian before, so that may take some time. I had to install quite a to create the debian infrastructure in plain sources i use dh_make it asks you a few questions and the creates the debian/ directory. for version numbering you need to edit debian/changelog, for the description of the package debian/control, for configure options debian/rules. to create a package run fakeroot debian/rules binary and you are good. you could even use dpkg-buildpackage (which works with cross compiling too), besides the package at least it produces *diff.gz, *.dsc and *.orig.tar.gz which you can feed to the pbuilder if you don't have a cross compiling environment. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pimlico on the Freerunner ?
i find it very frustrating that i and others have lots of software ideas, that can be coded/re-packaged, but we're hamstrung by what should be a fundamental piece of software that openmoko does everything in their power to support switch to debian and the whole fascinating world of debian packages is open to you. openmoko has several times made clear that they have too limited resources to do _everything_ and that they are concentrating on hardware and basic software. everything above that is a community task. and, there's still osmo, at least in debian taht offers the same functionality like pimlico, judging from descriptions and screenshots. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Syncing OpenMoko with Sunbird/Lightning events and tasks
On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 10:31 +0100, Yoann ARNAUD wrote: Pander a écrit : Hi all, Which applications on OpenMoko would be suitable for importing and exporting (syncing) data like events and tasks from Sunbird/Lightning? Preferably via the use of http://www.opensync.org/ Pimlico, but it's not realeased yet. http://pimlico-project.org/sync.html And from the Changelog, hasn't been touched since 2006 ... Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)
William Kenworthy wrote: Also, I didnt think tangogps overwrote files already downloaded - it uses them from the cache instead - will have to test the download dialog, but I seem to remember that didnt download existing tiles either. tangogps uses the cache - until you notice that the cache is getting old and ask it to download. (Click the map, select map download from the menu) The visible area is then downloaded, plus a user-specified amount of extra zoom levels for that area. Any existing cache for that area is replaced. I do this (using USB networking) when I have updated a place in openstreetmap. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: tangogps uses the cache - until you notice that the cache is getting old and ask it to download. (Click the map, select map download from the menu) The visible area is then downloaded, plus a user-specified amount of extra zoom levels for that area. Any existing cache for that area is replaced. huh - so Tangogps is able to update tiles?? I didn't know it, lack of reading/documentation/UI/something. Does it download overwrite all tiles already downloaded in the selected area or does it use the etag thing to save traffic? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)
Helge Hafting wrote: I noticed another problem yesterday though. I worked around the problem by making a symlink, and the program ran. I have slightly more than 50.000 tiles. After a while, Yaouh had worked through 12000, updating about 4000. It seems 1 in 3 tiles were changed. This took a lot of time, so I left it running overnight. It crashed sometimes during the night, and the disk was not full. The log file merely told that yaouh.py was interrupted by a segmentation fault. Could there be a memory leak? Or will yaouh use memory proportional to the number of tiles (or perhaps the number of out-of-date tiles)? With 128M and 5 tiles, there is no more than 2684 bytes per tile. So linear memory consumption will not work well. I think I may have found the problem. yaouh (and tangogps) outputs lots of text while working, and this text ends up in /var/volatile/tmp/x.log (Or /tmp/x.log, /tmp symlinks to /var/tmp which again links to /var/volatile/tmp.) The file is currently 30M, yaouh is not the only offender, but the file keep growing. Now, /var/volatile is tmpfs in main memory, so I am currently wasting 30M of the precious 128M this phone has. (A quarter of all memory, for a log file!) This output is rarely seen by users. I guess it is useful for debugging, but could be removed from a production release, or at least add a debug flag that must be used to get output. If the amount of output is proportional to the amount of tiles being checker or downloaded, then some users will run out of memory just from that. Looks like many programs like to fill this log. People who don't have swap, and see instability after too much uptime, may want to check the size of /var/volatile/tmp/x.log. My 30M accumulated over 4 days, I have swap to help me though. It looks like tmpfs is limited to half of memory, but the remaining 64M could get tight. Also, some programs don't like it when /tmp gets full. A reboot fixes this, but we don't want to reboot to clear out logfiles. :-/ Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Risto H. Kurppa wrote: huh - so Tangogps is able to update tiles?? I didn't know it, lack of reading/documentation/UI/something. Just click anywhere on the map. map download is the last item on the popup menu. There seem to be a bug in that the zoom level you're looking at doesn't get updated. A user-configurable amount of zoom levels below are downloaded though. I therefore tend to zoom one level out before downloading. I don't know if it uses etags, but I guess it blindly downloads all. If it used etags, then it could save space by not having tens of thousands of identical copies of the blank land tile and the blank sea tile. Helge Hafting I think you got me wrong: yes, I know that it can download new tiles, but if you already have downloaded the tiles of some area and then after some months you'd like to get the latest map tiles (=dowload the latest, changed tiles), does the 'download tool' do it or does it see that the tiles are already there and will not download anything. In some update scripts the etag is used to recognize if the tile on the server is different than the local tile and if it is, then the tile file is downloaded. Or maybe I got you wrong :) Anyway, a tool to upgrade the tiles (that uses the etag thing, not downloading all the files) is needed and I think we've seen it now, just need to test.. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Syncing OpenMoko with Sunbird/Lightning events and tasks
Xavier Bestel wrote: On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 10:31 +0100, Yoann ARNAUD wrote: Pander a écrit : Hi all, Which applications on OpenMoko would be suitable for importing and exporting (syncing) data like events and tasks from Sunbird/Lightning? Preferably via the use of http://www.opensync.org/ Pimlico, but it's not realeased yet. http://pimlico-project.org/sync.html And from the Changelog, hasn't been touched since 2006 ... Here is more: http://www.pimlicosoftware.com/ Anyone care to formulate with me a set of use cases / user stories for address, event and task functionality for OpenMoko and look into the already available apps and technologies and how the close that gap? The PIM (Personal Information Management) support for OpenMoko should get roadmap and some serious efforts to improve this. Anyone? Pander Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.12] [~solved] Mediaserver / Qpe
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:29:29 +0100 boilers...@gmail.com boilers...@gmail.com wrote: Dear List, the processes mediaplayer and qpe are draining all the cpu power even if I shutdown / reboot. This is the hierarchy of the processes: 546 ?Sl 0:41 \_ qpe 608 ?RN 0:02 \_ /opt/Qtopia/bin/quicklauncher 864 ?R 0:00 \_ /opt/Qtopia/bin/mediaserver -noshow this is an excerpt of 'top': 880 root 20 0 25932 7876 7044 R 72.6 6.2 0:01.55 mediaserver 881 root 20 0 2248 1024 816 R 7.9 0.8 0:00.14 top 281 root 30 10 000 S 6.3 0.0 0:10.99 jffs2_gcd_mtd6 497 root 19 -1 14844 7848 1644 S 6.3 6.2 0:15.83 Xglamo 608 root 39 19 25224 4516 3956 R 1.6 3.6 0:03.17 quicklauncher 1 root 20 0 1524 560 500 S 0.0 0.4 0:04.80 init kill, kill -9, killall, killall -9: they all does nothing. The phone receives calls and sms it vibrates but id does not ring. Can you help me ? Regards, Mike Well ... solved ... not really: I've reflashed my box with Om2008.12 :) I guess that I have to mess less with the packages, sorry for the noise. Question: as a future reference: * how to debug Qtopia ? * where are (if any) the log files ? Thanks for supporting, have a nice day. Mike ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Replacement Battery with 2300mAh, possible?
Leonti wrote: Sometimes they are not putting the right specifications on the batteries. Right now I have in my other phone (k700i) battery with the capacity double of the original one. But this is just a label. Uptime is the same as with the original battery. My point being that for more capacity you need to have bigger battery. It's not possible to contain more energy in the same amount of electrolyte. Ate least not for a battery for 11 euro. Leonti I was wondering if the FR battery had pretty much hit the limit for modern, affordable battery tech. After searching around for a while myself I've found a variety of other batteries that claim 1300, 1400, or even 1600 mAh in compatible form-factors. But they're all on ebay and I don't trust 'em. Especially with this line in the description - A temporary short capacity of new battery will be resulted from not used for a long time, it is normal, the total capacity will be reinstated via used for 3-5 times. Bad english aside, it sounds like a con. Though for £7.50 it's almost worth a try http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=220343010836 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Replacement-Battery-with-2300mAh%2C-possible--tp2183925p2186635.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Status of Opimd (FSO-PIM)...
Imho, the Personal Information Manager is what the FSO stack is really missing (at least, I'm not fully switching to any framework-based distro since I need a good PIM)... I've heard many times that Opmid is coming, but I don't see anything arriving since quite long time. The latest git commit on opimd dates back to September 8th, I've heard also that his main author is working on this an near to the release, but... So, please, could someone inform us about his status and the plans for it? I guess that this would be good also for people that would like to improve it. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Replacement Battery with 2300mAh, possible?
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 06:05:03 -0800 (PST), Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net wrote: I was wondering if the FR battery had pretty much hit the limit for modern, affordable battery tech. After searching around for a while myself I've found a variety of other batteries that claim 1300, 1400, or even 1600 mAh in compatible form-factors. But they're all on ebay and I don't trust 'em. Especially with this line in the description - A temporary short capacity of new battery will be resulted from not used for a long time, it is normal, the total capacity will be reinstated via used for 3-5 times. Bad english aside, it sounds like a con. Though for £7.50 it's almost worth a try http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=220343010836 Feel free to try it, and let me know the results :P Just kidding, it seems logical that these batteries don't have the capacity declared, as they are five times cheaper than original batteries and claim to have doubled performance... I was hoping I'm wrong, but as everyone thinks the same I'd rather get a second FIC battery. Cheers, Daniel -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Syncing OpenMoko with Sunbird/Lightning events and tasks
Hi I am currently developing a sync app for the Neo. At the moment it only supports Microsoft Outlook (I had to use it in my office) and only took the data from Outlook and push it into the Neo. But it has an addin interface for different PIM applications. So it should no big problem to add support for Sunbird. It depends on the way I have get the data out of it. I hope I can release a first version in the next two weeks. Regards Andreas On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 14:11 +0100, Pander wrote: Xavier Bestel wrote: On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 10:31 +0100, Yoann ARNAUD wrote: Pander a écrit : Hi all, Which applications on OpenMoko would be suitable for importing and exporting (syncing) data like events and tasks from Sunbird/Lightning? Preferably via the use of http://www.opensync.org/ Pimlico, but it's not realeased yet. http://pimlico-project.org/sync.html And from the Changelog, hasn't been touched since 2006 ... Here is more: http://www.pimlicosoftware.com/ Anyone care to formulate with me a set of use cases / user stories for address, event and task functionality for OpenMoko and look into the already available apps and technologies and how the close that gap? The PIM (Personal Information Management) support for OpenMoko should get roadmap and some serious efforts to improve this. Anyone? Pander Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Status of Opimd (FSO-PIM)...
2009/1/20 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net [...] So, please, could someone inform us about his status and the plans for it? I guess that this would be good also for people that would like to improve it. May someone inform us about his features too? It will manage only extended contacts or events/alarms/todo and so on? And as FSO is only the backend, are there collaborations with shr/paroli, or a gui prototype will be implemented in zhone? I'm interested in this too in order to know if we have to wait further the fso/pim release. Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Syncing OpenMoko with Sunbird/Lightning events and tasks
I am currently developing a sync app for the Neo. the fr itself has nothing to sync, hasn't it? so, what pim or files are you syncing? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian ] Bluetooth
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Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: I think you got me wrong: yes, I know that it can download new tiles, but if you already have downloaded the tiles of some area and then after some months you'd like to get the latest map tiles (=dowload the latest, changed tiles), does the 'download tool' do it or does it see that the tiles are already there and will not download anything. The 'download tool' download the tiles so that you get the newest ones even if you had some old outdated tiles there. I don't know if it downloads _every_ tile blindly, or only those that changed since last time. But all tiles within the visible region, down to the configured zoom limit will be new up-to-date tiles once the download finishes. Assuming there are no network errors/timeouts - that can leave old tiles or even blank areas. Also, if you have old tiles down to a deep zoom level, then the innermost ones aren't updated unless you specify sufficient depth. The yaouh tool is better, in that it updates every outdated tile regardless of zoom level. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Syncing OpenMoko with Sunbird/Lightning events and tasks
Sorry, forget to mention. Normally my mobiles have only one OS. :-) I am syncing contacts and calendar entries from Outlook with the Qtopia PIM Stack from OM 2008.* On Tue, 2009-01-20 at 18:02 +0100, arne anka wrote: I am currently developing a sync app for the Neo. the fr itself has nothing to sync, hasn't it? so, what pim or files are you syncing? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Status of Opimd (FSO-PIM)...
Nicola Mfb schrieb: 2009/1/20 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net mailto:m...@3v1n0.net [...] So, please, could someone inform us about his status and the plans for it? I guess that this would be good also for people that would like to improve it. May someone inform us about his features too? It will manage only extended contacts or events/alarms/todo and so on? And as FSO is only the backend, are there collaborations with shr/paroli, or a gui prototype will be implemented in zhone? I'm interested in this too in order to know if we have to wait further the fso/pim release. Nicola MS5 planned features: Robust SMS handling ... PIM integration (API preview, experimental, off by default) ... I am not expecting too much of the PIM in the first place, since it is declared as an api preview. and the fso team delivered their prior milestones quite in time, so i do not understand, why everyone wants to know, since it should only take a couple of days till ms5 is out. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian ] Bluetooth
Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com writes: is there someone with a working bluetooth!?? Yes, worked for me with the packaged kernel. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Status of Opimd (FSO-PIM)...
Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster wrote: PIM integration (API preview, experimental, off by default) Nice. I am not expecting too much of the PIM in the first place, since it is declared as an api preview. Better than nothing... and the fso team delivered their prior milestones quite in time, so i do not understand, why everyone wants to know, since it should only take a couple of days till ms5 is out. Ok, I didn't know this, but I asked since I was quite frustrated by the fact that I've not heard nothing for months. However I'm happy that we'll finally have something to work on (both from the dev and user point of view). -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.12] Pause mplayer on call ?
Hi, I have played a bit with mplayer, with has great sount from my BT3030 :-) But is there any way to pause mplayer when there is a call coming in (qpe) ? I currently do not use any GUI for it, so mplayer may only killed with any usefull signal to pause. Then how to restart it again. This is not only to mute the music, but also to propably safe cpu time while the call - especially when mplayer is reniced to -19. I had a look into the qpe config file, but I have noting got out of it to enable such a scenario. Are there any event's I could attent on instead tweaking any application ? Thanks Lothar -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Yaouh! out (update for tangogps maps)
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Risto H. Kurppa wrote: I think you got me wrong: yes, I know that it can download new tiles, but if you already have downloaded the tiles of some area and then after some months you'd like to get the latest map tiles (=dowload the latest, changed tiles), does the 'download tool' do it or does it see that the tiles are already there and will not download anything. The 'download tool' download the tiles so that you get the newest ones even if you had some old outdated tiles there. I don't know if it downloads _every_ tile blindly, or only those that changed since last time. But all tiles within the visible region, down to the configured zoom limit will be new up-to-date tiles once the download finishes. Assuming there are no network errors/timeouts - that can leave old tiles or even blank areas. Also, if you have old tiles down to a deep zoom level, then the innermost ones aren't updated unless you specify sufficient depth. The yaouh tool is better, in that it updates every outdated tile regardless of zoom level. Ah, okay, thanks for this information , didn't know Tangogps can also update. Put yes, I prefer yaouh (or even better the desktop-perl -script. Will try it soon) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] Pause mplayer on call ?
Pausing mplayer is probably going to be problematic without re-writing it. Firstly, you would have to run it in slave mode so that you could write to the process using a pipe. Secondly you will need to get a signal that a call is inbound. The latter is not readily available to systems not using frameworkd. If you are using qtopia to make phone calls, chances are you do not have frameworkd. If you did, you could add an event in /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml. If you have this file, you will see rules relating to incoming calls. Then you would need to craftily send a signal to your mplayer instance to pause playback. Personally, that sounds like no fun. Mokoko (I believe) [1] and the hacks to pythm I made (search the mailing list) have support for this feature. Mokoko is easier to install. Maybe there are others, but I forget. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Mokoko On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de wrote: Hi, I have played a bit with mplayer, with has great sount from my BT3030 :-) But is there any way to pause mplayer when there is a call coming in (qpe) ? I currently do not use any GUI for it, so mplayer may only killed with any usefull signal to pause. Then how to restart it again. This is not only to mute the music, but also to propably safe cpu time while the call - especially when mplayer is reniced to -19. I had a look into the qpe config file, but I have noting got out of it to enable such a scenario. Are there any event's I could attent on instead tweaking any application ? Thanks Lothar -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Dylan Maxwell Reilly ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pimlico on the Freerunner ?
Hi, Try this openmoko-contacts2 Samuel Hmm - pimlico looks much nicer than qtopia-contacts. Any package for this? Rather than develop new generic framework that can be configured to do anything (paroli and friends) - could we not write a dialler that uses this contact management for a quick and easy solution? - Gunnar Samuel Pereira wrote: Hi, If you check this page ...http://pimlico-project.org/dates.html They have a screenshoot of FR. This packages are on opkg. opkg install openmoko-dates2 openmoko-tasks2 In OM2008.x Contacts uses other package from qtopia. Samuel Hi list I just discoverd the Pimlico project : http://pimlico-project.org/ which aims at providing a simple Pim solution for mobile devices. The website links to some pre-built binaries, but there are none for the gta02. I would like to know if someone had or could package the sources for the freerunner ? Thanks in advance Kimaidou ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Midori font size
Hi! My midori (from 2008.8 repos) looks like this: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/826544e6e1f3599edf85881090476c72.png Someone has it looking like this on Debian: http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/midori1.png Compare the font sizes - what's wrong with the version I'm using so that it shows the fonts that huge in the page making it mostly unusable for web browsing. The zoom-thing doesn't work. All the menu texts could also be smaller. Any tips how to do this? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
How to scramble a playlist ?
Hi, I have seen two applications that could scramble text files. http://www.vanheusden.com/unsort/ and http://ch.tudelft.nl/~arthur/rl/ Is anyone on a similar solution to port it onto OpenMoko ? Or are there shellscript solutions ? Thanks Lothar -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to scramble a playlist ?
Shouldn't be too hard to write one... I can think of a few very inefficient implementations, but I'm sure others can think of better ones. :P -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Midori font size
Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi writes: All the menu texts could also be smaller. Any tips how to do this? DPI is totally different. While I have it at 75x75 you have 284x285. If some web page specifies that letters are 1/8 inch tall they are going to use 9 pixels on my screen and 35 pixels on your screen. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to scramble a playlist ?
Here's a way to do it in python: #!/usr/bin/env python import sys, random filename = sys.argv[1] a = open(filename).read().strip().split(\n) random.shuffle(a) for i in a: print i If you're not famililar with shell stuff: Save that to a file like scramble and then do: python scramble myfile You can just type scramble myfile after you've done chmod +x scramble Probably you want to redirect the list into a file: python scramble myplaylist.txt /tmp/shuffledplaylist.txt or you can add python code to accept another argument for an outfilename and write the file -- with a check to make sure you're not overwriting an existing file (don't want you to overwrite your playlist on accident :) Eric ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to scramble a playlist ?
Great,
that works. Now I have a random jukebox with just one click (with a
desktop file).
Lothar
Here is my script to get it working onto my bluetooth device:
#!/bin/sh
killall -SIGQUIT mplayer
/home/root/setup-bluetooth-audio.sh
rm playlist-sorted.m3u
rm playlist.m3u
find /media/card/Musik -name *.mp3 /home/root/playlist-sorted.m3u
/home/root/scramble.py /home/root/playlist-sorted.m3u /home/root/
playlist.m3u
mplayer -ao alsa:device=bluetooth -playlist /home/root/playlist.m3u
#mplayer -ao alsa:device=bluetooth
http://yp.shoutcast.com/sbin/tunein-station.pls?id=2408
sleep 3
renice -19 `ps ax | grep mplayer | grep -Ev grep|Unknown | awk --
'BEGIN {}{ print $1;}'`
setup-bluetooth-audio.sh:
#!/bin/sh
# Your device
export DEVICE=XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
/etc/init.d/bluetooth stop
/etc/init.d/bluetooth start
sleep 1
passkey-agent --default
sleep 1
echo Create bonding
dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=org.bluez /
org/bluez/hci0 org.bluez.Adapter.CreateBonding string
sleep 1
echo Activating service audio
dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.bluez /org/bluez
org.bluez.Manager.ActivateService string:audio
sleep 1
echo Creating device
dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=org.bluez /
org/bluez/audio org.bluez.audio.Manager.CreateDevice
sleep 1
echo Connecting sink
dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=org.bluez /
org/bluez/audio/device0 org.bluez.audio.Sink.Connec
Am 20.01.2009 um 22:09 schrieb e...@ericanddebbie.com:
Here's a way to do it in python:
#!/usr/bin/env python
import sys, random
filename = sys.argv[1]
a = open(filename).read().strip().split(\n)
random.shuffle(a)
for i in a:
print i
If you're not famililar with shell stuff:
Save that to a file like scramble and then do:
python scramble myfile
You can just type scramble myfile after you've done
chmod +x scramble
Probably you want to redirect the list into a file:
python scramble myplaylist.txt /tmp/shuffledplaylist.txt
or you can add python code to accept another argument for an
outfilename and write the file -- with a check to make sure you're not
overwriting an existing file (don't want you to overwrite your
playlist on accident :)
Eric
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Re: Call for Illume keyboards and keyboard icons
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:35:53 +0700 Alejandro Sáiz b.de.bang...@gmail.com babbled: Sorry for the misunderstanding. I mean that Thai is like Chinese in that it doesn't have spaces but like Hindi when it comes to the style of script and input methods. ok. cool. just languages i don't know - so letting me know the basics lets me account for the future. :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Midori font size
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: My midori (from 2008.8 repos) looks like this: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/826544e6e1f3599edf85881090476c72.png Someone has it looking like this on Debian: http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/midori1.png Compare the font sizes - what's wrong with the version I'm using so that it shows the fonts that huge in the page making it mostly unusable for web browsing. The zoom-thing doesn't work. Go in the preferences, you can set manually a lower value for the text size... I put something like 5 and 2... BTW in debian it's another thing, since I figure that it's launched with a different dpi setting for the Xserver... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pimlico on the Freerunner ?
On 1/20/09 Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/1/20 The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com: Looks useful. I've been needing a nice calendar app. If someone could package these, that would be great. I would, but I can't use the toolchain. :( join the club i find it very frustrating that i and others have lots of software ideas, that can be coded/re-packaged, but we're hamstrung by what should be a fundamental piece of software that openmoko does everything in their power to support more developers = more software = more phones sold openmoko, any chance of working on this? We have no plans to work on a calendar in 2009. That's a tricky application with lots of details. We want to deliver the basics first. Resources, in 2009, are focused completely on delivering a stable daily phone. I don't want to change this until we meet our goal. -Sean ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pimlico on the Freerunner ?
It's not the calendar we're concerned about. We can't get the toolchain to work. I'm not sure how many others can or can't, but I can't. If I got a working toolchain so I could compile for the FR, then I could go find my own calendar app (such as Pimlico's). :\ -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pimlico on the Freerunner ?
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:40:57 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz s...@openmoko.com wrote: On 1/20/09 Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/1/20 The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com: Looks useful. I've been needing a nice calendar app. If someone could package these, that would be great. I would, but I can't use the toolchain. :( join the club i find it very frustrating that i and others have lots of software ideas, that can be coded/re-packaged, but we're hamstrung by what should be a fundamental piece of software that openmoko does everything in their power to support more developers = more software = more phones sold openmoko, any chance of working on this? We have no plans to work on a calendar in 2009. That's a tricky application with lots of details. We want to deliver the basics first. Resources, in 2009, are focused completely on delivering a stable daily phone. I don't want to change this until we meet our goal. -Sean Unless I'm quite mistaken, the request was for Openmoko to offer an officially-supported development environment, beyond a tarballed toolchain and wiki instructions. Personally I've found the toolchain to be sufficient unto my needs, and have pointed people to an Ubuntu-based vmware image at the FR stuff link in my sig that contains preinstalled toolchain, qemu, and various other useful accoutrements. But an official, actively-maintained and actively-supported complete development environment /would/ be welcomed by many in the community, IMHO. j -- Joel Newkirk http://jthinks.com (blog) http://newkirk.us/om (FR stuff) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian ] Bluetooth
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com writes: is there someone with a working bluetooth!?? Yes, worked for me with the packaged kernel. yes, I am running debian with the dinovo mini logitech keyboard. it works flawlessly, thinking about strapping the phone to the back cover of the keyboard. - Niel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Midori font size
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net wrote: Risto H. Kurppa wrote: My midori (from 2008.8 repos) looks like this: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/826544e6e1f3599edf85881090476c72.png Someone has it looking like this on Debian: http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/midori1.png Compare the font sizes - what's wrong with the version I'm using so that it shows the fonts that huge in the page making it mostly unusable for web browsing. The zoom-thing doesn't work. Go in the preferences, you can set manually a lower value for the text size... I put something like 5 and 2... BTW in debian it's another thing, since I figure that it's launched with a different dpi setting for the Xserver... Ah, right, that helps. I opened Midori over ssh on my desktop so I was able to see the 'default font size' too, not only the minimum font size that I had changed earlier already. Thanks! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
