Re: Heidelberg/Mannheim Cafe Meet
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Re: Someone stole my Neo Freerunner... :(
2009/1/27 Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de Hi, sorry for you all that lost your phone, stolen or lost anyhow by being careless. I also had lost a phone, but not my FR :-) I read the thread, and think about my contract. I have no gprs as of my old phone didn't let me opening web or wap pages. I have some questions and ideas that are in my brain :-) I don't know why you guys assume that there will be another user. A scenario that I think is more probable: The thief steals the phone, immediately turns it off by taking out the battery. He then takes it to some 'dealer'. The dealer says, 'what the is this, I will never sell it', and throws it away. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM and GPRS?
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Steffen Winkler steffen.li...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, is it possible to use GPRS with the current FDOM image? If yes: Is there a GUI or do I have to adjust the config files by hand? If I've to adjust the config files by hand, is there a howto? (which files and what do I've to edit there) The current FDOM image - you mean FDOM 20081023? I don't know about that (because it had so many problems and bugs, that I flashed back to FDOM 20080927 right after trying 20081023), but in FDOM 20080927 it was easy to get GPRS working. I followed the instructions here - http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-2.html#GPRS . FDOM already has gsm0710muxd installed, so you have to start from where it says: The files needed are I just copied these files to my phone, changed mobile.o2.co.uk in chat-gprs file to my GPRS providers address and started the connection with ./pppd-start and later killed the connection with killall -15 pppd. Probably you can install some GUI too, but I didn't think it is nessecary. If you don't want to start it from command line, just make two .desktop files - one for pppd-start and one for killall -15 pppd. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Modified old multitap-pad keyboard
Hi,
I modified multitap-pad (wasn't usable). I changed the usability a bit. Now you
can write by moving your finger around. I tested it on Om2008.12.
I included many special characters. Short list: Ctrl+c, Ctrl+z, Tab, Enter,
PgUp, PgDn, F1-F12, ' ()[]{},~/\|*:; ...
International characters are also included.
http://www.opkg.org/package_116.html
install: opkg install libfakekey0
http://www.opkg.org/packages/multitap-pad_0.1_armv4t.ipk
screenshots: http://www.opkg.org/images/screenshots/written.png
http://www.opkg.org/images/screenshots/mousedown.png
To start the keyboard you need to be faster then other installed keyboards.
Start it directly after you see the icon called Mutlitap.
Attached is the modified .c-file. Original source:
http://downloads.openmoko.org/sources/multitap-pad_svn.o-hand.com_.repos.misc.trunk_373_.tar.gz
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Re: Alsa state chooser
On Tuesday 27 January 2009, TL Mieszkowski wrote: I'm not sure what the status of the Dbus sound stuff is, but I wrote a little program to choose the alsa state file with a simple gui. Attached is the code in anyone is interested. All it is is 1 button for each state file, very simplistic, uses elementary. (which btw kicks ass Raster) You would run it like so: scalpel `ls -1 /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/` meh, whatever, works for me -Tim http://n2.nabble.com/file/n224/scalpel.c scalpel.c The FSO API can list and change the alsa scenarios with stack based management. It will also send a signal on scenario change so that interested apps are aware of it. See: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.html;hb=HEAD ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: buzz fix
They've been really silent (ignoring us?) on this point each time it has been asked. -Message d'origine- De : community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] De la part de Christoph Siegenthaler Envoyé : lundi 26 janvier 2009 13:21 À : community@lists.openmoko.org Objet : RE: buzz fix Hello, are there any updates from resellers, FIC or any half-official DIY-tutorials on the hardware problems, i.e. the buzzing? Best regards, Chris KaZeR wrote: -Message d'origine- [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] De la part de Christoph Pulster Envoyé : mardi 13 janvier 2009 08:20 À : community@lists.openmoko.org Objet : Re: buzz fix Hello, thanks for asking about hardware fixes (I read this list daily). At the moment I'm working out a solution with Openmoko how to handle any repair (buzz SOP, GPS fix etc). In any way I want to offer my customers best service and we try to find a solution which does avoid time-consuming return shipments to Taiwan. Please allow us some days to work that out. Thanks Christoph. It's nice to see that you are so involved. I hope that you will lead the way for other resellers. Bearstech maybe? :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/buzz-fix-%28was%3A-Pulster-offer---Freeru nner-now-249-eur%29-tp2141213p2217591.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Someone stole my Neo Freerunner... :(
I don't know why you guys assume that there will be another user. A scenario that I think is more probable: The thief steals the phone, immediately turns it off by taking out the battery. He then takes it to some 'dealer'. The dealer says, 'what the is this, I will never sell it', and throws it away. exactly. therefore i think, the proposed label inside the back cover, offering a reward when contacted via number/email and fr returned, would be far more promising. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Someone stole my Neo Freerunner... :(
-Message d'origine- exactly. therefore i think, the proposed label inside the back cover, offering a reward when contacted via number/email and fr returned, would be far more promising. Would sound like a trap for the thief, no? (even if it's worth trying). I got a bag stolen in train last month. It only contained papers for my work, my mail from the day, and my glasses. Bag itself was worth something like 10€. I guess it ended in a trash. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Someone stole my Neo Freerunner... :(
El día Tuesday, January 27, 2009 a las 10:58:49AM +0100, arne anka escribió: I don't know why you guys assume that there will be another user. A scenario that I think is more probable: The thief steals the phone, immediately turns it off by taking out the battery. He then takes it to some 'dealer'. The dealer says, 'what the is this, I will never sell it', and throws it away. exactly. therefore i think, the proposed label inside the back cover, offering a reward when contacted via number/email and fr returned, would be far more promising. exactly; mine has a label inside: +---+ | If you got this device, let's | | asume you have found it, please | | call +49-89-61308-351. I offer a | | 100 Euro reward on device return. | +---+ HIH :-) matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ SPAMer of the year: Subject: Alle Software ist Deutsche Sprachen From: -40 % die Neujahrsaktion gabriellekel...@grungecafe.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: multitouch possible?
kris Occhipinti wrote: I agree that it is a hardware limitation. But, you never know what some one will come up. One day someone may come up with an idea the rest of us never thought about. Yes, just for the folklore, this reminds me of the old ZX Spectrum console which had only 16 colours until someone figured out that if they switched two colours on a pixel fast enough the eye would perceive the combined colour. A new era of beautiful games started there :-) Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: what tests for (non working) 3G SIM?
On Monday 26 January 2009 20:53:24 Chris Syntichakis wrote: Hi, As I see the SIM from 3mobile (UK) is not working with the GTA02v6 (running SHR unstable). As far as I'm aware (Hutchison 3G) - Three - is UMTS 2100 _only_ and won't work with 2G phones like GTA02/GTA03. I've updated my firmware and still can't use it with Three. That makes my Freerunner a toy and not daily phone. Currently I've got 3G simcard from O2 (which is 2G/3G network) and it registers (after firmware update). Let's hope GTA04/05 will be 3G. Should I run any debugging tests (just for your info..)? If so, what can I do? There is nothing you can do. Rob signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Someone stole my Neo Freerunner... :(
The Digital Pioneer wrote: And when you think you've tracked down the thief and are close to him, send an sms to make it play some music really really loud, and go bang the thief on the head :) Sounds fun. I send the SMS, and suddenly a piercing siren goes off from the guy 10 feet away, so I tackle him and take back my phone. :D I like how you think. Just one little consideration: how best to turn off stolen-mode when I get it back? Sending an SMS won't do (way too easy to spoof), it needs to be something that can only be done by SSH or the like I think. Enter the 20-letter password that only you know about - or reflash. The thief also has the option of reflashing - but most of them don't know how. If they did - they'd likely be able to earn better working with electronics/computers. If you really hate thieves, fill all free space inside the case with explosive. Send the stolen phone a sms containing the key for self-destruct mode. In this mode it explodes a few seconds after accepting a call - the maximum damage moment when you get both the hand and the head. I would not recommend this though. It'd be illegal most places, and you'd have to be really confident about programming the trigger. (And then there is static electricity...) A safer self-destruct mode would be to erase all the flashes, including the one in the gsm modem. No boot or usb-based reflash after that, and thieves will not likely bother trying a debug board to see if it can be fixed. If they are that good, they probably make a decent living unlocking/servicing other brands of phone already. Such a self-destruct might be useful when the phone is stolen on a trip and you don't want to follow the thief into a dubious and unknown district. And you probably don't have all the tracking equipment (extra gps phone) with you either. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OM 2008.12] Wicd and Python
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I've installed Wicd from opkg.org[1] but I get the same error of Pander: # wicd-client Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/wcud/wcid-client.py, line 48, in module import wcid.wpath as wpath ImportError: No module named wicd.wpath How could this be solved pratically? Thanks, [1] http://www.opkg.org/package_114.html - -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkl+678ACgkQRi2TsGSC4FZuugCdEXurhaYLhXUENsXDtekDE240 m+MAn15tU9GgL/IFFaivoXrp9ETyEW5g =knMn -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Someone stole my Neo Freerunner... :(
Angus Ainslie wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: There is a program around that is supposed to look for a special keyword in a sms, and send a gps reading back. It didn't work when I tried it, but this appraoch can be developed into something more robust. Another other security idea: Send an SMS to put the phone in stolen modus. (Do that quickly, before they change the sim card.) Are you talking about sms-sentry ? Which part didn't work ? I sent the message, from the phone to itself. This was right after installing it. Of course, there was no gps fix inside the building, I didn't expect that to work well. Later I was on a car trip, not driving. So I watched tangogps for a while. Then I got the idea to test again, knowing that the gps was working. So I sent the message again - from the phone to itself. And again nothing happened. The keyed message eventually showed up in the sms inbox, with the first letter removed. Tangogps showed movement all the time. I tried twice, but I never got a reply with any coordinates. What distro did you try it on ? SHR of dec.16, which I still use. A good distro in that calls, sms, music, and gps all works - although it could use some polishing. Did you run it from the command line and check what status messages it was sending ? I didn't think of that, it is worth a try. It works but can take a very very long time to get a fix and return the SMS you are waiting for. I know - so therefore I tested it when I already had a good fix. gpsd is supposed to be able to serve several clients at the same time. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR Unstable
Joel Newkirk wrote: On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:36:56 -0800 (PST), Chris Syntichakis ch...@c-64.mobi wrote: Hi, How can I activate the GPS with the SHR? I open the tangoGPS but I got no info if the gps is on or getting data.. Chris The line of text across below the map view (above the Map|Trip|Track etc tabs) shows GPS info as does the Trip display. Of particular interest on the map view is the last group of characters - 0/0/0.0 when first started. On mine (SHR-unstable+updates) it changes to 12/0/0.0 after about 10-15 seconds. The 12 is referring to 12 satellites for which it thinks it has positions. The second number is the number of those satellites it is actually tracking. For me that stays at zero (no fix until 3-4 sats tracked) for anywhere from 45 secs to 5 mins depending on sky visibility, at which point I almost always pick up 3-5 sats at once and have first fix. when debugging, try the trip page of tangogps. It will show gps time long before it gets a fix - I guess this is because it tracks 1 satellite. Not enough for a position, but enough to get displayable time. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: what tests for (non working) 3G SIM?
Hi, I see.. Today I tested the card with a Nokia 1110i , it said card rejected, then I did a test with a samsung c170 and I got the message SIM crashed (LOL) Thanx for the tip about O2.. chris As far as I'm aware (Hutchison 3G) - Three - is UMTS 2100 _only_ and won't work with 2G phones like GTA02/GTA03. I've updated my firmware and still can't use it with Three. That makes my Freerunner a toy and not daily phone. Currently I've got 3G simcard from O2 (which is 2G/3G network) and it registers (after firmware update). -- ╒══╕ │░ ≡│ └──┘ -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/what-tests-for-%28non-working%29-3G-SIM--tp2220544p2223741.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Dead Neo 1973 - drained battery
On Saturday 24 January 2009 18:45, Andy Selby wrote: Try leaving the battery out over night then reinserting it and charging it. I've got a neo1973 on its original battery so yours should still work You can get a very cheap battery and charger from ebay, I provided a link in a previous post http://www.mail-archive.com/community@lists.openmoko.org/msg28392.html Those links are no longer active as they link to ebay offers. Could you supply a link to something more longterm. I'm interested in getting one of these as I am sure are others. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: svgalib
Mickael Labrousse wrote: Hi, Is there a package of svgalib available for the freerunner ? I am not sure that is possible - my understanding is that the freerunner doesn't have a vga-compatible screen. It is vga-sized, thats it. You should be able to use a framebuffer driver if what you want is garphics without X. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[to moko developers] JOG DIAL
Can be to make jog dial instead of the button aux? It is convenient to thumb through upwards downwards in browsers and other. jog dial should be with function button example http://mnovosti.ru/images/old/0/6/img_385762_157.jpg -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-to-moko-developers--JOG-DIAL-tp2225172p2225172.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pimlico on the Freerunner ?
The Digital Pioneer wrote: I was discussing how you might do this on IRC. The problem is when multiple apps are trying to wake up from suspend; I understand the hwclock interrupt can only have one value. You need a program managing a priority queue of interrupts or the like. I suggested using cron for this, but I'm not strong enough with the source to hack it myself. :P Apps should definitely not program the timer themselves. They should call into linux instead, for example by sleeping until the desired point in time. Linux already support hundreds of sleeping apps using only one timer on a pc. The timer is simply set to expire at the first upcoming event. I don't know if the freerunner kernel uses a timer capable of waking the phone from suspend when managing sleeping processes - but it could be made to do so. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [to moko developers] JOG DIAL
not bad could also be used to control volume of speakers/mic On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:56 PM, bytestore bytest...@yandex.ru wrote: Can be to make jog dial instead of the button aux? It is convenient to thumb through upwards downwards in browsers and other. jog dial should be with function button example http://mnovosti.ru/images/old/0/6/img_385762_157.jpg -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-to-moko-developers--JOG-DIAL-tp2225172p2225172.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- GPS howto?
arne anka wrote: - the solution you are pointing to, was only some rough first draft. the kernel patch used eventuially works different. Thank you for the information. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix
On Monday 26 January 2009, Christoph Siegenthaler wrote: are there any updates from resellers, FIC or any half-official DIY-tutorials on the hardware problems, i.e. the buzzing? The current tutorial is here: http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP_rc2.pdf This appears to have benefited from feedback regarding capacitor types from the few people so far to have attempted the mod, but more feedback is requested. The lack of feedback from people trying it may be why it hasn't yet made it past release candidate stage. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR] python-elementary API
Hi, i want to play with enlightenment gui programming for SHR but i can't find such a documentation.. where can i find python-elementary APIs and some useful documentation? -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: what tests for (non working) 3G SIM?
On Tuesday 27 January 2009, Chris Syntichakis wrote: Hi, I see.. Today I tested the card with a Nokia 1110i , it said card rejected, then I did a test with a samsung c170 and I got the message SIM crashed (LOL) That mirrors my experience with a friend's 3 SIM last week. This one was bought with one of their USB data dongles. After my GTA02 with moko10 rejected the SIM we tried it in his Nokia Communcator which also failed to recognise it. If you look at 3's TCs you will see that it's a violation to use the SIM in a non-3G device anyway. Thanx for the tip about O2.. Also works with t-mobile, Virgin and Orange. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Conflict when several apps use the accelerometers?
Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes wrote: This page does: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer_Fundamentals Noise is around 3cm/s^2, i.e: It can fill in _short_ - 3-5s gaps in GPS coverage, if the orientation of the phone is known. Not enough for a 4km tunnel then, which is 3 min when going 80km/h. 5s is enough for a 111m tunnel, but 5s signal loss is usually not a problem anyway. Of course, the car speedometer readout can take care of speed and braking/acceleration, the accelerometer would only be needed to notice turning. Could be interesting to see where it thinks I am after 3 min, if 5s is all I can expect. I guess those 3-5s is the interval where precision matces the gps. But it will be useful for longer than that, as long as estimate is more accurate than stopped at the tunnel entrance. The error increase with time, but so do the real distance from the entrance. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
Al Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 13 January 2009, Yorick Moko wrote: buzz and gsm fixes are even documented on the wiki (no need to search in the e-mails) only the audio-fix (big capacitator to provide more bass isn't; hoping to see that one documented as well There's some fairly detailed discussion of audio mods on the hardware list which could be copied into the wiki, but there is no 'official' mod. I suspect there won't be one either, mostly because big caps won't fit in the space available, and relocating them to outside the screening can could easily reintroduce buzz. Another option: Short the too small capacitors, so there are no capacitors at all. Then add the big caps outside the screeming, but this time with no need to connect to anything inside the screening. Just break the connection anywhere, and insert a nice big cap. The easiest place of all then, is obviously to add the caps to the headset. Of course then you only have one useable headset. Or break the connection between the plug and circuit board, and put the caps somewhere inside. There is lots of room above the SIM card. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: multitouch possible?
On 1/27/09, Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl wrote: kris Occhipinti wrote: I agree that it is a hardware limitation. But, you never know what some one will come up. One day someone may come up with an idea the rest of us never thought about. Yes, just for the folklore, this reminds me of the old ZX Spectrum console which had only 16 colours until someone figured out that if they switched two colours on a pixel fast enough the eye would perceive the combined colour. A new era of beautiful games started there :-) Hmm. Interesting point. We'll need to know how much control we have over the touch screen controller, but let's throw around some theories. What would happen if the voltage given to the touch screen controller were varried at some frequency or through a rnage of frequencies? Maybe we would find that we could measure some resonance frequency and coorelate that (along with some other measurable data) to more than one contact point. -Charles Pax ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: multitouch possible?
Charles Pax schrieb: On 1/27/09, *Fernando Martins* ferna...@cmartins.nl mailto:ferna...@cmartins.nl wrote: kris Occhipinti wrote: I agree that it is a hardware limitation. But, you never know what some one will come up. One day someone may come up with an idea the rest of us never thought about. Yes, just for the folklore, this reminds me of the old ZX Spectrum console which had only 16 colours until someone figured out that if they switched two colours on a pixel fast enough the eye would perceive the combined colour. A new era of beautiful games started there :-) Hmm. Interesting point. We'll need to know how much control we have over the touch screen controller, but let's throw around some theories. What would happen if the voltage given to the touch screen controller were varried at some frequency or through a rnage of frequencies? Maybe we would find that we could measure some resonance frequency and coorelate that (along with some other measurable data) to more than one contact point. -Charles Pax i found something, although, they (of course) dont tell how the did it: http://www.tycoelectronics.com/aboutus/news/prodnews.asp?id=1584 and i am quite sure they use different hardware http://www.tycoelectronics.com/aboutus/news/prodnews.asp?id=1584 ...btw i read that gta03 will introduce capacitive touchscreen (its in the wiki). why the hell would anyone want this? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: multitouch possible?
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Charles Pax charles@gmail.com wrote: Hmm. Interesting point. We'll need to know how much control we have over the touch screen controller, but let's throw around some theories. What would happen if the voltage given to the touch screen controller were varried at some frequency or through a rnage of frequencies? Maybe we would find that we could measure some resonance frequency and coorelate that (along with some other measurable data) to more than one contact point. ISTR that one of the core developers played with the idea of sweeping the screen in a few directions to see if this would work out. No idea if he did this, and what he came up with... Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] python-elementary API
Giorgio Marciano wrote: Hi, i want to play with enlightenment gui programming for SHR but i can't find such a documentation.. where can i find python-elementary APIs and some useful documentation? A nice article is available on enlightenment website wiki http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Elementary Examples are written in C :-( I don't know if an API doc is avaible for the python binding. You can find one example in sources: http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/BINDINGS/python/python-elementary/tests/test.py -- Valéry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix (was: Pulster offer - Freerunner now 249 eur)
On Tuesday 27 January 2009, Helge Hafting wrote: Al Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 13 January 2009, Yorick Moko wrote: buzz and gsm fixes are even documented on the wiki (no need to search in the e-mails) only the audio-fix (big capacitator to provide more bass isn't; hoping to see that one documented as well There's some fairly detailed discussion of audio mods on the hardware list which could be copied into the wiki, but there is no 'official' mod. I suspect there won't be one either, mostly because big caps won't fit in the space available, and relocating them to outside the screening can could easily reintroduce buzz. Another option: Short the too small capacitors, so there are no capacitors at all. Then add the big caps outside the screeming, but this time with no need to connect to anything inside the screening. Just break the connection anywhere, and insert a nice big cap. The easiest place of all then, is obviously to add the caps to the headset. Of course then you only have one useable headset. Yes, that's one of the options discussed, along with some resistors you might like to remove. You could put the caps in a 2.5mm to 3.5mm ( or even 1/4in) adaptor cable to make it usable with generic headphones. I don't personally like this solution for 2 reasons; one day I will forget and stick dc on a headset, and it will probably prevent use of the serial debug interface to the gsm. The second objection won't be a consideration for the vast majority of people though. Or break the connection between the plug and circuit board, and put the caps somewhere inside. There is lots of room above the SIM card. This is harder than it sounds IIRC, but feel free to try. I had my eye on that space for caps too as the existing caps are very close to it. You could make a small hole in the screening can to pass the wires through, but would need to be careful to avoid creating an rf pathway. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: multitouch possible?
On 1/27/09, Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl wrote: kris Occhipinti wrote: I agree that it is a hardware limitation. But, you never know what some one will come up. One day someone may come up with an idea the rest of us never thought about. Yes, just for the folklore, this reminds me of the old ZX Spectrum console which had only 16 colours until someone figured out that if they switched two colours on a pixel fast enough the eye would perceive the combined colour. A new era of beautiful games started there :-) Hmm. Interesting point. We'll need to know how much control we have over the touch screen controller, but let's throw around some theories. What would happen if the voltage given to the touch screen controller were varried at some frequency or through a rnage of frequencies? Maybe we would find that we could measure some resonance frequency and coorelate that ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: what tests for (non working) 3G SIM?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Syntichakis wrote: Hi, As I see the SIM from 3mobile (UK) is not working with the GTA02v6 (running SHR unstable). Should I run any debugging tests (just for your info..)? If so, what can I do? Chris 3mobile Ireland SIM doesn't work in the GTA02v05 either. Haven't had a chance to look into it. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkl/GLQACgkQXlbjSJ5n4BDU6wCghFfOp4GoRVJXL++EgY65M0W0 ea0AoNxKMKVvi+kd5F4+C5nWjuX9WWCF =NRjg -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: what tests for (non working) 3G SIM?
When reporting broken 3G SIMs please give us the output of: r...@om-gta02:~# cat /dev/ttySAC0 r...@om-gta02:~# echo -en 'AT\r' /dev/ttySAC0 r...@om-gta02:~# echo -en 'AT+CGMR\r' /dev/ttySAC0 +CGMR: HW: GTA, GSM: gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal_amd8_ts0-Moko10 r...@om-gta02:~# kill %1 -Thanks On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:22 AM, Arigead captain.dea...@gmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Syntichakis wrote: Hi, As I see the SIM from 3mobile (UK) is not working with the GTA02v6 (running SHR unstable). Should I run any debugging tests (just for your info..)? If so, what can I do? Chris 3mobile Ireland SIM doesn't work in the GTA02v05 either. Haven't had a chance to look into it. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkl/GLQACgkQXlbjSJ5n4BDU6wCghFfOp4GoRVJXL++EgY65M0W0 ea0AoNxKMKVvi+kd5F4+C5nWjuX9WWCF =NRjg -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Someone stole my Neo Freerunner... :(
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:23 AM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Later I was on a car trip, not driving. So I watched tangogps for a while. Then I got the idea to test again, knowing that the gps was working. So I sent the message again - from the phone to itself. And again nothing happened. The keyed message eventually showed up in the sms inbox, with the first letter removed. Tangogps showed movement all the time. I tried twice, but I never got a reply with any coordinates. If the first letter is missing then it won't work as the match has to be complete. This seems to be some kind of network ( or possibly Freerunner specific issue ) as I've had the missing character reported before. I have always tested by sending from a different phone. I'll test again using the freerunner to track itself. What distro did you try it on ? SHR of dec.16, which I still use. A good distro in that calls, sms, music, and gps all works - although it could use some polishing. Did you run it from the command line and check what status messages it was sending ? I didn't think of that, it is worth a try. It works but can take a very very long time to get a fix and return the SMS you are waiting for. I know - so therefore I tested it when I already had a good fix. gpsd is supposed to be able to serve several clients at the same time. SHR uses fso-gpsd and the will handle multiple clients. Angus -- Angus Ainslie http://www.handheldshell.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow
kimaidou a écrit : Hi Yoan, I am about to buy the capacitor and resistor and ask a friend to do the buzz fix. Before diving into trouble water, I would really apreciate some feedback on your attemp : Oh yes, I have to do that. I want to make a useful report but I have no time for this * did you succeed ? Yes, but it was very very hard. And my fix is very ugly. * is the buzz canceled ? Yes :) * have you taken photographs on your work ? Yes, but they are poor quality. The coponents are very very small and I had to be close to the phone taking the pictures. I'll try to make the pictures available tonight. Just an advice. Be aware that the coponents of the phone are very small (about 1mm) and it's very hard to desolder just the resistor and not the other neighbour coponents (I desoldered one conensator...) and it's harder to solder the new components. (that's why my fix is ugly because we had to repair that) -- Yoann. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi KaZeR- We are not ignoring about the buzz fix issue, actually we are very serious about this bug and fix. The buzz issue mostly comes from EMI (Electromagnetic Disturbance), and it's hardware design related. Buzz comes from mechanical/layout/component/schematics, and each part could have eliminate some level EMI effect (buzz). By apply a filter, and change audio configuration, we could make FR have better noise resist in audio trace. But EMI still comes through mechanical(antenna position close to mic), layout (already in FR printed circuit board), and component (microphone as small antenna get EMI) joerg already publish release candidate version SOP of buzz fix, the reason it stay in rc and did not have update is: #1 Can't tell how much it could improve, yet As described above, buzz fix actually is EMI resist fix/workaround, Currently, we have 2 feedback from kindly community member help verify joerg's SOP, and have positive result. Community do a great work on verification, but we don't finish internal/mass verification for how much it could improve. #2 Don't have the test SOP/audio file for this rework For GPS hardware SOP, it's easy to tell if you could get a fix within 3 minutes with GPS application and NMEA string, but for audio rework in field, it could only tell by callee's ear. So after rework's pass/fail test method and audio alsa (A6 rework) file not ready yet. Upon this 2 reasons, this fix stay in rc, even this fix already used in some phones and get positive result. Regards, - -- Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) Openmoko, Inc. Support. They've been really silent (ignoring us?) on this point each time it has been asked. -Message d'origine- De : community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] De la part de Christoph Siegenthaler Envoyé : lundi 26 janvier 2009 13:21 À : community@lists.openmoko.org Objet : RE: buzz fix Hello, are there any updates from resellers, FIC or any half-official DIY-tutorials on the hardware problems, i.e. the buzzing? Best regards, Chris KaZeR wrote: -Message d'origine- [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] De la part de Christoph Pulster Envoyé : mardi 13 janvier 2009 08:20 À : community@lists.openmoko.org Objet : Re: buzz fix Hello, thanks for asking about hardware fixes (I read this list daily). At the moment I'm working out a solution with Openmoko how to handle any repair (buzz SOP, GPS fix etc). In any way I want to offer my customers best service and we try to find a solution which does avoid time-consuming return shipments to Taiwan. Please allow us some days to work that out. Thanks Christoph. It's nice to see that you are so involved. I hope that you will lead the way for other resellers. Bearstech maybe? :) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkl/O+AACgkQmV6sZhhBn29PUgCgqSNwRikVaM2JIVrmRO35Wg7B ROkAnjPnP55u855+CkMnbZyqEPHUp5Yp =+wt6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Someone stole my Neo Freerunner... :(
If you don't want to risk being sued for a booby trapped phone, how about at least a way to render the it useless to thieves? For instance, you could make it unbootable from a zero power situation, and then combine that with a rapid power discharge. If the thief leaves it uncharged for even a day, its bricked! Jeff Sadowski wrote: Oooh :-) Idea: Make it shock the user if its not the right user. I smell smoke I think it is coming from over there. Hey look there is my phone. next to a flaming POS. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de wrote: Hi, sorry for you all that lost your phone, stolen or lost anyhow by being careless. I also had lost a phone, but not my FR :-) I read the thread, and think about my contract. I have no gprs as of my old phone didn't let me opening web or wap pages. I have some questions and ideas that are in my brain :-) Is there any way to use analog modem connections ? I don't know how much CPU power is needed but when possible a phone could send more data to a dedicated number we could provide for that. If a real modem connection couldn't be used, what about creating a tone modulation for the data to be send as a 'spoken' message to be send back to a number as a voice recorder. The voice recorder then (a Linux PC :-) could decode the data and store the data. All the data could be collected on a web service to probably get the bad guys behind to give that information to the police. The web service also could provide information about stolen devices, thus when a phone gets any wlan connection, it could check for stolen state. This is not that spoof able I think, because the web sevice may be as usual password protected. But the server could provide sms, mms or phone gateways for fallback options. More gateways could be provided by us. The new gateway information could be uploaded by interacting with the user (software updates :-) If a phone didn't have gprs, sms, mms, or wlan, sending prepared 'data voices' would be an option. It didn't need to send much at first to get an answer about the stolen state in that way. I think the recorded data could be decoded in both directions, you don't need much cpu power, because it will be unidirectional, or let the 'protocol' enough time between packed sent and anser packets for decoding. Doing an active voice call may save us the cost of callbacks or sending back sms. With a proper longtime protocol with long pauses or a better solution a lot could be done. Usually you could activate this when the sim card get's changed without any notice to the user. He should still use the phone a while to collect information. We then could start a preinstalled application to authenticate the sim card change. If not options are many. The PIN entry of the normal card could be replaced by the PIN you provide. The user then wouldn't realize it, but claims to enter the correct, we simply accept, but start the timer for the above actions. Or we leave the user in claim that the documentation of it's sim card provider doesn't seem to be correct and he/she must issue a call with the service provider. At that point, the service provider couldn't help for that special phone. The new 'user' HAS to contact the manufacturer and so on you probably get your phone back, because the manufacturer should request for sending back the phone. Getting the state of stolen, the phone could anyway send a message to a police station near the user with spd-say, after the 'anti-theft' server has located the next police station's telephone number with any of the above options sent back to the phone. (Maybe with manual data entry of the phone numbers by us users with POI collection, hehe tangoGPS :-) That way the phone could help actively. Not only 'data voices' could be sent. Also the collected wlan, phone towers, GPS, voice, phone numbers and what else could help to locate the guys behind, as the phones will walk up to the key guys before it would reselled. (Where they all are located would be very nice POI data) With that data, we could help the police. A note about the attack to people currently having your phone: They may not know, that they have a stolen phone, thus you get to be a 'criminal' and beware, you may also get reatacked by the person :-) Giving the police the collected data, would propably help much more. What about all my stupid brain stuff ? Discuss about the possibilities - even stupid ideas as the old 'acustic coupler'. You don't really need all the modern GPRS stuff :-) If that is possible also the cost of operation is not very high I think - even you change your card (you know to start a separate unlocker) Lothar -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list
Re: buzz fix
Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk writes: On Monday 26 January 2009, Christoph Siegenthaler wrote: are there any updates from resellers, FIC or any half-official DIY-tutorials on the hardware problems, i.e. the buzzing? This appears to have benefited from feedback regarding capacitor types from the few people so far to have attempted the mod, The feedback is that: you can use any cap, including tantalum. :) but more feedback is requested. The lack of feedback from people trying it may be why it hasn't yet made it past release candidate stage. No more feedback is really needed. Everyone who performed the rework confirmed that it eliminates the buzz. No single negative report. And i guess at least 10-20 people have already tried the rework. So, the reason that no reseller is doing it yet is probably due to communication/business issues rather than technical. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Someone stole my Neo Freerunner... :(
bburde...@comcast.net wrote: If you don't want to risk being sued for a booby trapped phone, how about at least a way to render the it useless to thieves? I think that the majority of thieves is not technically inclined, thus our FR is _already_ rather useless for him/her.. For instance, you could make it unbootable from a zero power situation, and then combine that with a rapid power discharge. If the thief leaves it uncharged for even a day, its bricked! LOL :) yeah.. let's implement that.. oh wait.. this feature is already implemented.. no battery voltage - bricked (unless one knows what to do) Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ The use of anthropomorphic terminology when dealing with computing systems is a symptom of professional immaturity. - Edsgar W. Dijkstra -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR Unstable
btw.. I am unable to ssh (from my linux box) to the SHR .. it works when the FR has the FDOM of the hackable1 , but not on SHR.. (i am using the unstable version) chris -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/SHR-Unstable-tp2202729p2227042.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Someone stole my Neo Freerunner... :(
i'm assuming we don't want to brick it, because the thief is not very likely to return the phone if it doesn't work, nor can we track it if it isn't charged. He'(ll just dump the phone. sending gps location (if available), cell tower information and SIM card info (contacts, own number...) in the background to a predefined cellphone number/upload it to a server or e-mail it (when internet is available) seems to me the smarter choice. y On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:14 PM, bburde...@comcast.net wrote: If you don't want to risk being sued for a booby trapped phone, how about at least a way to render the it useless to thieves? For instance, you could make it unbootable from a zero power situation, and then combine that with a rapid power discharge. If the thief leaves it uncharged for even a day, its bricked! Jeff Sadowski wrote: Oooh :-) Idea: Make it shock the user if its not the right user. I smell smoke I think it is coming from over there. Hey look there is my phone. next to a flaming POS. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de wrote: Hi, sorry for you all that lost your phone, stolen or lost anyhow by being careless. I also had lost a phone, but not my FR :-) I read the thread, and think about my contract. I have no gprs as of my old phone didn't let me opening web or wap pages. I have some questions and ideas that are in my brain :-) Is there any way to use analog modem connections ? I don't know how much CPU power is needed but when possible a phone could send more data to a dedicated number we could provide for that. If a real modem connection couldn't be used, what about creating a tone modulation for the data to be send as a 'spoken' message to be send back to a number as a voice recorder. The voice recorder then (a Linux PC :-) could decode the data and store the data. All the data could be collected on a web service to probably get the bad guys behind to give that information to the police. The web service also could provide information about stolen devices, thus when a phone gets any wlan connection, it could check for stolen state. This is not that spoof able I think, because the web sevice may be as usual password protected. But the server could provide sms, mms or phone gateways for fallback options. More gateways could be provided by us. The new gateway information could be uploaded by interacting with the user (software updates :-) If a phone didn't have gprs, sms, mms, or wlan, sending prepared 'data voices' would be an option. It didn't need to send much at first to get an answer about the stolen state in that way. I think the recorded data could be decoded in both directions, you don't need much cpu power, because it will be unidirectional, or let the 'protocol' enough time between packed sent and anser packets for decoding. Doing an active voice call may save us the cost of callbacks or sending back sms. With a proper longtime protocol with long pauses or a better solution a lot could be done. Usually you could activate this when the sim card get's changed without any notice to the user. He should still use the phone a while to collect information. We then could start a preinstalled application to authenticate the sim card change. If not options are many. The PIN entry of the normal card could be replaced by the PIN you provide. The user then wouldn't realize it, but claims to enter the correct, we simply accept, but start the timer for the above actions. Or we leave the user in claim that the documentation of it's sim card provider doesn't seem to be correct and he/she must issue a call with the service provider. At that point, the service provider couldn't help for that special phone. The new 'user' HAS to contact the manufacturer and so on you probably get your phone back, because the manufacturer should request for sending back the phone. Getting the state of stolen, the phone could anyway send a message to a police station near the user with spd-say, after the 'anti-theft' server has located the next police station's telephone number with any of the above options sent back to the phone. (Maybe with manual data entry of the phone numbers by us users with POI collection, hehe tangoGPS :-) That way the phone could help actively. Not only 'data voices' could be sent. Also the collected wlan, phone towers, GPS, voice, phone numbers and what else could help to locate the guys behind, as the phones will walk up to the key guys before it would reselled. (Where they all are located would be very nice POI data) With that data, we could help the police. A note about the attack to people currently having your phone: They may not know, that they have a stolen phone, thus you get to be a 'criminal' and beware, you may also get reatacked by the person :-) Giving the police the collected data, would propably help much more. What about all my stupid brain stuff ? Discuss about
Re: SHR Unstable
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Chris Syntichakis ch...@c-64.mobi wrote: btw.. I am unable to ssh (from my linux box) to the SHR .. it works when the FR has the FDOM of the hackable1 , but not on SHR.. (i am using the unstable version) chris -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/SHR-Unstable-tp2202729p2227042.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community have you rebooted? sometimes it doesn't work on first boot ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Bass fix (was: Re: buzz fix)
Hi, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk writes: There's some fairly detailed discussion of audio mods on the hardware list which could be copied into the wiki, but there is no 'official' mod. I suspect there won't be one either, mostly because big caps won't fit in the space available, and relocating them to outside the screening can could easily reintroduce buzz. I doubt it can reintroduce the buzz for the calling party. If improperly shielded, outside caps will definetely introduce buzz to FR's headphones though. I propose to look at the page where i outlined my rework: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix Comments are welcome. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner LightSaber
kris Occhipinti metalx2...@gmail.com wrote on Saturday 17 January 2009: Well, a few months ago, before I have a FreeRunner I saw a LightSaber application for the iPhone, I thought was neat. So, I made My own for the FreeRunner Yesterday. Here is the link http://filmsbykris.com/freerunner-debian/ko-user/ko-lightsaber.tar.gz How to install: Just un-tar it to your root directory and it should place everything where it needs to be and give you an icon on your desktop. What it does: Start the App and the phone sounds like a LightSaber Extending and then Humming (You know, Like StarWars) Swing the Phone Around and it sounds like you're having a LightSaber Fight. Features so Far: Sound, Vibration, and The Power Button LED flashes Blue on Swings. Todo list: Work on the GUI (Currently just a big exit button) add buttons to extend and retract Saber ( so you don't have to exit the program to stop the sounds ) And some sort of graphic or image of a Light Saber. Add More sounds Have buttons so you can choose the color of you lightsaber. Bugs: Sometimes while exiting, if you are still swinging the phone around, the LED and/or the vibrator will stay on. If this occurs, start the app up again and then close it with out swinging the phone around. I believe I can fix this with ease. I just wanted to get what I have done out before I continued working on new things. I got the sound fx off a free sound fx website. Don't know who made them. I hope it is ok that I used them. Hi Kris, I wanted to give it a try, but I always get the following error output: r...@om-gta02:~# ko-lightsaber Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/ko-lightsaber, line 4, in module import pygame.mixer ImportError: No module named pygame.mixer Any idea what's the problem here? I installed the pygame package you suggested http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/armv4t/python/python- pygame_1.7.1-ml2_armv4t.ipk Thanks, Daniel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix
I applied [1] the fix to my Neo with positive results. It's seems to have greatly reduced if not eliminated the buzz. -Steven Note [1]: By I applied I mean I bribed a co-worker with some Mt. Dew to do the soldering for me. ;-) On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) t...@openmoko.com wrote: #1 Can't tell how much it could improve, yet As described above, buzz fix actually is EMI resist fix/workaround, Currently, we have 2 feedback from kindly community member help verify joerg's SOP, and have positive result. Community do a great work on verification, but we don't finish internal/mass verification for how much it could improve. Regards, - -- Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) Openmoko, Inc. Support ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow
I too applied the fix. Or, I should say, got a co-worker to apply the fix. He worked with surface mount components for a few years and our lab has all the necessary equipment to do surface mount soldering. As well as a stock room with a fairly large selection of components. It took about an hour because the components are so hard to work with. I used a tantalum capacitor (as my work's stock room didn't have ceramic with the needed specs) which made things rather difficult. The capacitor was just small enough to fit inside the case. But it could not be positioned as depicted in the white paper. We ended up soldering some copper ribbon to the exposed pad to extend it to the left in order to place the capacitor between the components on the right and the screw hole. I did not take any pictures (since cameras are forbidden inside my place of work). I have extra capacitors and resistors I don't need/want. I'm not sure if anyone would want them though, since the capacitor was so hard to place well. -Steven On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:44 AM, kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Yoan, I am about to buy the capacitor and resistor and ask a friend to do the buzz fix. Before diving into trouble water, I would really apreciate some feedback on your attemp : * did you succeed ? * is the buzz canceled ? * have you taken photographs on your work ? Thanks in advance Kimaidou 2009/1/6 Yoann ARNAUD yarn...@crans.org kimaidou a écrit : Tommorow, I (my colleague, actually) will try to fix the buzz of my OM version A5 according to the manual of Joerg. Since I was asked, here is the documentation I will use : http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-C_rework_SOP__DRAFT3__.pdf -- Yoann ARNAUD Nantes, France. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
gtk+-fastscaling depency
Hi list, I got several packages now that are depending on gtk+-fastscaling. I did not try if forcing install will work, but I was wondering if this is a known thing. Because TangoGPS is a pretty well known app, right? So I was wondering why I get these errors... Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for tangogps: * gtk+-fastscaling (= 2.10.14) * Any idea? Thanks, Daniel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bass fix
Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com writes: I propose to look at the page where i outlined my rework: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix Of course, that's only my take on implementation, the rework itself was proposed and evaluated by Joerg Reisenweber, who also gave many practical tips on how to do it best and how to test the results. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR] SMS
I have a question about SHR SMS. I loved SHR, but I found that call volume was very low, and I had trouble finding my SMS messages. When receiving an incoming SMS, I could not delete the notify window with the X on the upper illume taskbar, and all of my SMS messages said they were received on Jan 1, 1987. I'm assuming this is because I didn't correctly set my system clock, but how would I do that? And how would I raise call volume, and delete the incoming message window? Thanks! Matt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bass fix
On Tuesday 27 January 2009, Paul Fertser wrote: Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com writes: I propose to look at the page where i outlined my rework: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix Of course, that's only my take on implementation, the rework itself was proposed and evaluated by Joerg Reisenweber, who also gave many practical tips on how to do it best and how to test the results. Your component placement is exactly what I proposed on the hardware list. It's good to know it works. I was slightly worried by the proximity to the bluetooth antenna. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: gtk+-fastscaling depency
Daniel Spies wrote: I got several packages now that are depending on gtk+-fastscaling. I did not try if forcing install will work, but I was wondering if this is a known thing. Because TangoGPS is a pretty well known app, right? So I was wondering why I get these errors... Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for tangogps: * gtk+-fastscaling (= 2.10.14) * In distros like SHR that package is now called gtk+; however maybe its authors should define something like a Provides, Replaces, Conflicts: gtk+-fastscaling as in Debian. -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] SMS
To change the date/time: http://www.linuxsa.org.au/tips/time.html Even after setting the time, the messages all have the wrong timestamp (mine say January 1970) The [X] button works for me, though (shr unstable, latest updates) On Jan 27, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Matthew Lane wrote: I have a question about SHR SMS. I loved SHR, but I found that call volume was very low, and I had trouble finding my SMS messages. When receiving an incoming SMS, I could not delete the notify window with the X on the upper illume taskbar, and all of my SMS messages said they were received on Jan 1, 1987. I'm assuming this is because I didn't correctly set my system clock, but how would I do that? And how would I raise call volume, and delete the incoming message window? Thanks! Matt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: gtk+-fastscaling depency
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net wrote on Tuesday 27 January 2009: In distros like SHR that package is now called gtk+; however maybe its authors should define something like a Provides, Replaces, Conflicts: gtk+-fastscaling as in Debian. That would be great indeed... Thanks for the information! Daniel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR] Kernel 2.6.28 not working on my Freerunner
Hello, My first post on the mailinglist :-) because I don't know how to fix this :-( Today I downloaded the latest kernel and shr-lite-testing release, ran into u-boot and flashed my Freerunner. I'm going with my [AUX]-button to the boot option and pressed the power-button. The screen says that the kernel was loaded successfully and stopped at starting kernel. I waited for more then a hour, after then I removed the battery for a hard shutdown. The kernel is 2.6.28. Kernel 2.6.24 is booting nice. But I want to know what's going wrong (kernel panic)? What kind of information do you want to help me fix this? Eddy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Kernel 2.6.28 not working on my Freerunner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hello, | | My first post on the mailinglist :-) because I don't know how to fix | this :-( | | Today I downloaded the latest kernel and shr-lite-testing release, ran | into u-boot and flashed my Freerunner. I'm going with my [AUX]-button to | the boot option and pressed the power-button. The screen says that the | kernel was loaded successfully and stopped at starting kernel. I | waited for more then a hour, after then I removed the battery for a hard | shutdown. | | The kernel is 2.6.28. Kernel 2.6.24 is booting nice. But I want to know | what's going wrong (kernel panic)? What kind of information do you want | to help me fix this? If there is literally a kernel panic, the AUX light will be flashing at about 4Hz. Where did you get the kernel from? Is there a git hash on the filename? - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkl/focACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqh+QCgiotnMUPI/wAu3BWp/1Hp54H9 45gAnAsot9n5gE0mkIONUSEhT41nCXog =23ih -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Conflict when several apps use the accelerometers?
2009/1/27, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no: Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes wrote: This page does: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Accelerometer_Fundamentals Noise is around 3cm/s^2, i.e: It can fill in _short_ - 3-5s gaps in GPS coverage, if the orientation of the phone is known. Not enough for a 4km tunnel then, which is 3 min when going 80km/h. 5s is enough for a 111m tunnel, but 5s signal loss is usually not a problem anyway. Of course, the car speedometer readout can take care of speed and braking/acceleration, the accelerometer would only be needed to notice turning. Could be interesting to see where it thinks I am after 3 min, if 5s is all I can expect. I guess those 3-5s is the interval where precision matces the gps. But it will be useful for longer than that, as long as estimate is more accurate than stopped at the tunnel entrance. The error increase with time, but so do the real distance from the entrance. Helge Hafting Yes, I too think it would be useful for a longer period. In a time of 3-5 seconds one could propably get away with simply projecting the route at signal loss with constant speed. And I think navit snaps to streets anyway, so it wouldn't matter if its off by a bit. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Kernel 2.6.28 not working on my Freerunner
On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 21:37 +, Andy Green wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hello, | | My first post on the mailinglist :-) because I don't know how to fix | this :-( | | Today I downloaded the latest kernel and shr-lite-testing release, ran | into u-boot and flashed my Freerunner. I'm going with my [AUX]-button to | the boot option and pressed the power-button. The screen says that the | kernel was loaded successfully and stopped at starting kernel. I | waited for more then a hour, after then I removed the battery for a hard | shutdown. | | The kernel is 2.6.28. Kernel 2.6.24 is booting nice. But I want to know | what's going wrong (kernel panic)? What kind of information do you want | to help me fix this? If there is literally a kernel panic, the AUX light will be flashing at about 4Hz. No flashing AUX light nothing, the phone is dead no any reaction. Where did you get the kernel from? Is there a git hash on the filename? I grabbed the kernel from http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ The hash is: gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r2-om-gta02 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Kernel 2.6.28 not working on my Freerunner
* E. Boer edbo.des...@gmail.com [090127 23:00]: On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 21:37 +, Andy Green wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hello, | | My first post on the mailinglist :-) because I don't know how to fix | this :-( | | Today I downloaded the latest kernel and shr-lite-testing release, ran | into u-boot and flashed my Freerunner. I'm going with my [AUX]-button to | the boot option and pressed the power-button. The screen says that the | kernel was loaded successfully and stopped at starting kernel. I | waited for more then a hour, after then I removed the battery for a hard | shutdown. | | The kernel is 2.6.28. Kernel 2.6.24 is booting nice. But I want to know | what's going wrong (kernel panic)? What kind of information do you want | to help me fix this? If there is literally a kernel panic, the AUX light will be flashing at about 4Hz. No flashing AUX light nothing, the phone is dead no any reaction. Where did you get the kernel from? Is there a git hash on the filename? I grabbed the kernel from http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ The hash is: gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r2-om-gta02 on shr-testing the new kernel won't work anyway. The included version of frameworkd is missing the necessary changes... For the new kernel you have to use shr-unstable right now. This will changes with the next testing image... which will be due, when we have sorted out one or two problems of the current unstable image. mrmoku ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alsa state chooser
Al Johnson wrote: The FSO API can list and change the alsa scenarios with stack based management. It will also send a signal on scenario change so that interested apps are aware of it. See: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Device.Audio.html;hb=HEAD I can see how having the sound info in a stack might be useful (marginally, really), but I can't see it justifying the use of D-bus. I wouldn't say never, but I really can't think of any pressing reasons to want to know when the state changes. Maybe it's just lack of imagination. And as for playing sounds off the message bus, why? Am I wrong for instinctively hating D-bus, and finding any reason to not use it? Or at least only using it for things that must be asynchronous? Something I could see as useful is a signal when headphones are plugged in. I remember reading in the Wolfson Codec manual that it is possible, by monitoring voltages or some such, I imagine that would have to be done in the alsa plugin or maybe in the driver though. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Alsa-state-chooser-tp224p2228688.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Kernel 2.6.28 not working on my Freerunner
Where did you get the kernel from? Is there a git hash on the filename? I grabbed the kernel from http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ The hash is: gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r2-om-gta02 on shr-testing the new kernel won't work anyway. The included version of frameworkd is missing the necessary changes... For the new kernel you have to use shr-unstable right now. This will changes with the next testing image... which will be due, when we have sorted out one or two problems of the current unstable image. phew It's not my Freerunner :-) ... just the software. I will switch back to unstable until the new image is released. Keep up the good work! Eddy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow
Yoann ARNAUD a écrit : I'll try to make the pictures available tonight. Here they are : http://perso.crans.org/yarnaud/Openmoko/Buzz_Fix/ -- Yoann. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow
I'm getting a '403 forbidden' message. looks like we don't have read access. Peter. Yoann ARNAUD wrote: Yoann ARNAUD a écrit : I'll try to make the pictures available tonight. Here they are : http://perso.crans.org/yarnaud/Openmoko/Buzz_Fix/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: buzz fix
Steven ** a écrit : I applied [1] the fix to my Neo with positive results. It's seems to have greatly reduced if not eliminated the buzz. For me, it seems that the buzz is eliminated. -- Yoann. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow
Peter Strapp a écrit : I'm getting a '403 forbidden' message. looks like we don't have read access. Thanks. It's OK now. -- Yoann. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Default Illume Keybd Layout
On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 02:22:57 -0500 John Sullivan j...@wjsullivan.net said: Brock awwa...@thelackthereof.org writes: I extracted it and dropped it into place to work in debian. I've been using it for several days and like this layout quite a bit... I threw in a fuzz factor of 60 for sloppy slapping the keyboard, works great. Same here, on Debian. Haven't tried the fuzz factor yet but we'll see. But something I've been meaning to look into for a while -- the font used for the letters on the keys and for the word suggestions above the keyboard is very very small. Is there an interface to set that somewhere or do I need to edit the theme file? It's a bigger font on SHR and FSO. fonts should scale with the illume default profile - according to DPI. making the fonts bigger will simply reduce the amount you can read. fonts on the keyboard itself are not relevant as it fuzzy-matches anything nearby. the word suggestions already have little enough space as-is... but you can play with a custom scaling factor for e's ui - u'll need a restart for it to fully take effect (restart of just e). but this will in general scale everything that is scaleable. other than that the theme very much has a hand in setting the base font sizes (relative to eachother) and the suggestions font size is the same standard size used in all buttons/labels etc. etc. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Kernel 2.6.28 not working on my Freerunner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Where did you get the kernel from? Is there a git hash on the filename? | I grabbed the kernel from | http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ | The hash is: | gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r2-om-gta02 | on shr-testing the new kernel won't work anyway. The included version of | frameworkd is missing the necessary changes... | | For the new kernel you have to use shr-unstable right now. This will | changes with the next testing image... which will be due, when we have | sorted out one or two problems of the current unstable image. | | | phew It's not my Freerunner :-) ... just the software. I will | switch back to unstable until the new image is released. | | Keep up the good work! Glad to hear it, that particular kernel revision has been used for a while by quite a few people now with good results... I guess it started fine and then choked somewhere in the rootfs. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkl/knUACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqRtwCeJL4XaRSvuO10+fxQK7HI8S6k TQUAoIijV63Aq3tcaX2/1yxJhrUEWjUb =QB7W -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR Unstable
hi, GPS works ok (takes arounf 4min to fix).. also. (as I m flasing a lot the FR in order to try the distros) i reflashed the FR again with SHR(unstable), (I flashed it to FDOM, then again back to SHR) now I see that the FR is somewhat .. slow for example: the applications take some time to run! (its definitely slower than the first time I flashed the SHR).. veru strange , eh? chris -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/SHR-Unstable-tp2202729p2229085.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alsa state chooser
WM8753.pdf pg 27: MICBIAS CURRENT DETECT The WM8753L includes a microphone bias current detect circuit which allows the user to set thresholds for the microphone bias current, above which an interrupt will be triggered. There are two separate interrupt bits, MICDET to allow the user to e.g. distinguish between one or two microphones connected to the WM8753L, and MICSHT to detect a shorted microphone (mic button press). The thresholds for the microphone bias current are set by MBTHRESH[2:0], for MICDET, and MBSCTHRESH[1:0] for MICSHT. Thresholds for each code are shown in Table 15. The circuit is enabled by setting MBCEN. See the GPIO and Interrupt Controller sections for details on the interrupt and status readback for the microphone bias current detect. REGISTERBITLABEL DEFAULT DESCRIPTION ADDRESS R51 (33h) 5:4 MBSCTHRESH 00 Microphone Bias, Shorted Current Threshold Select 00: 500uA 01: 1000uA 10: 1600uA 11: 2300uA These values are for 3.3V supply and scale with supply voltage. 3:1 MBTHRESH 000 Microphone Bias, Current Threshold Select 000:250uA 001:410uA 160uA steps up to 111:1370uA These values are for 3.3V supply and scale with supply voltage. 0 MBCEN 0Mic Bias Current Comparator Circuit enable 0 : Comparator disabled 1 : Comparator enabled Table 15 Mic Bias Current Comparator Circuit Control -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Alsa-state-chooser-tp224p2229301.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
handset volume,,
I know the low handset volume is mentioned on the wiki too, but is there any patch/solution? I out the alsa setting to 127 (the high value) but I am not too happy... Chris -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/handset-volume%2C%2C-tp2229335p2229335.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alsa state chooser
On Wednesday 28 January 2009, TL Mieszkowski wrote: WM8753.pdf pg 27: MICBIAS CURRENT DETECT The WM8753L includes a microphone bias current detect circuit which allows the user to set thresholds for the microphone bias current, above which an interrupt will be triggered. I think this appears as /dev/input/eventX and should be available in FSO's rules.yaml if it isn't available as a direct notification. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow
Yoann ARNAUD escribió: Yoann ARNAUD a écrit : I'll try to make the pictures available tonight. Here they are : http://perso.crans.org/yarnaud/Openmoko/Buzz_Fix/ is this buzz + bass fixes? because the reference pictures from the SOP paper don't show that second thing you soldered (not the yellow one, the other) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Spam
Paul Boddie wrote: To avoid some problems with forged mail, I recommend setting up an SPF policy record: http://www.openspf.org/ See the Deploying SPF part of that page and the associated setup wizard. When I looked at openmoko.org's DNS records, I couldn't find any evidence of SPF policies, so perhaps someone should look into it. And everyone else who isn't publishing SPF policies for their domain should consider doing so, too - it's a pain to get a deluge of spam backscatter in one's inbox, but you can prevent it from happening. This should especially be done by mailing list servers and more so in openmoko's case as the contact with openmoko personnel and developers is pretty crucial. Preventing your own people from being impersonated and forged mails being relayed via your own list seems common sense to some of us, or at least me :) As the from address is maintained when sending to this particular list, I guess it's not even necessary for them to be checking records, so long as they publish some that we can check ... though they should be doing both. The only problem with implementing this now would be the multiple sending servers required to be added to the records or the set up of auth smtp (with increased BW usage) and then the requirement for openmoko.org email users to adhere to the set up. Doable but not exactly trivial. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alsa state chooser
Al Johnson wrote: I think this appears as /dev/input/eventX and should be available in FSO's rules.yaml if it isn't available as a direct notification. Cool, thanks Al -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Alsa-state-chooser-tp224p2229815.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
www.opkg.org - Repository Alpha
Dear community I finally found some time to set up a simple repository for www.opkg.org. It was difficult for me to figure out how exactly it is built. There isn't a lot of information in the wiki and I've never done a repo before. However, I like to try new things, so I wrote some little scripts that build a new Packages(.gz) file every full hour. To be honest, I'm not really sure if I've done it correctly. This is why I ask the community to help me. The repository's address is http://www.opkg.org/packages/. Please feel free to test it and report any bugs/mistakes. I also appreciate any suggestions on how I could make the system better. (How I said, I've never done it before and actually don't have the knowledge to build a proper repo.) There are only the packages available that are stored on the opkg.orgserver. The ones that are hosted on other servers aren't included (yet). I hope it won't break any systems - just to make sure: you test it _on your own risk_. Thanks in advance. -- Regards, Tobias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
