QT Extended GPRS

2009-02-09 Thread Jelle De Loecker
Good morning everyone,

I've flashed the latest QT Extended image, once with mwester's kernel, 
once with the kernel supplied in the package.
To get GPRS working I tried these instructions: http://tinyurl.com/dysvkn
(Which made me download a set of packages from mwester's site)

For some reason, though, whenever the phone would initiate gprs it would 
completely freeze...

Has anyone else encountered the same problem?

Greetings,
Jelle De Loecker

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RE: A2DP success with Nokia BH-604

2009-02-09 Thread KaZeR
 

 -Message d'origine-
 De : community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org 
 [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] De la part de arne anka
 Envoyé : dimanche 8 février 2009 21:36
 À : List for Openmoko community discussion
 Objet : Re: A2DP success with Nokia BH-604
 
  I just wanted to mention that after following Lothar Behrens and 
  Steven Kings instructions for Jabra BT3030 I've got A2DP 
 working for 
  my Nokia
  BH-604 headset as well.
 
 could you put that together and make it into a wiki page? 
 resp update the relevent wiki page?
 

I'd love a nice doc too.



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Re: Qwo update

2009-02-09 Thread kimaidou
Hi all

Is there a new package for Debian too ? I am using the 0.3 on my hackable,
and I would like to test the last one.

NB : for those who wants to install it on debian/hackable, do :

cd ~
wget 
http://itanix.rutgers.edu/rumba/dists/sid/perspect/binary-armel/x11/qwo_0.3+git20090110+6db30-1~pre3_armel.deb
http://itanix.rutgers.edu/rumba/dists/sid/perspect/binary-armel/x11/qwo_0.3+git20090110+6db30-1%7Epre3_armel.deb
apt-get install libconfig6
dpkg -i qwo_0.3+git20090110+6db30-1~pre3_armel.deb
cd /usr/bin
mv xkbd xkbd.moved
ln -s qwo xkbd



2009/2/8 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com

 update it on opkg.org?

 On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Charles Clément carat...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Hello,
 
  A new release of qwo, version 0.4 is out.
 
  Here's the highlight of this release:
 
  -The window can now be resized, but has to remain a square.
  -There is a paste (P).
 
  Also the gesture to print help image is now middle left region to bottom
  left one, which is easier to do.
 
  The project has moved to Savannah, you can reach the homepage at
  http://www.nongnu.org/qwo/ to get the details.
 
  Binaries and the sources can be obtained on the download page:
  http://savannah.nongnu.org/files/?group=qwo
 
  Here is the ChangeLog entry:
 
  2009-02-07  Charles Clément carat...@gmail.com
 
 * 0.4 release
 * The window size can be changed
 * The window can be resized dynamically
 * Added Paste
 * Man page generation using help2man (Thanks Yaroslav Halchenko)
 * Added Version and help messages
 * Generates the .desktop and qwo_control files using autoconf
 * Support to display the window at a specific position (Thanks
 Christian M. Amsüss)
 
 * Added Alt key, Page up, down, home and end plus others
 * Invert position for characters f and g
 * The gesture to print help image is now middle left region to
 bottom left one
 * Fix bug number 5
 * Fix input focus in metacity/matchbox (Thanks Christian M. Amsüss
 and Erik
 Andresen)
 
  --
  Charles Clément.
 
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Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1

2009-02-09 Thread arne anka
 So, installed xserver-xorg-input-tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1 as linked on the  
 wiki [1],
 added the option in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and fired a
 $ /etc/init.d/nodm restart
 But still I get no right click action.

tslib works with Xglamo only.
with a regular installation you are using fb -- use libgtkstylus. i don't  
have the exact name handy right now, but the archives should turn up  
several hits.

 The cursor is flickering round a few pixels (more or less) around the  
 location I'm clicking, does that prevent
 xorg from recognizing a true right click (too much movement over time)?

no. the flickering is normal.

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yaouh! 0.4 is out

2009-02-09 Thread Carlo Minucci
download from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh!

little bufgix and add support for multiple wget download
i think now is more fast

please, test and feedback

see you

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Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj

2009-02-09 Thread Arigead
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Mirko Lindner wrote:
 Hi,
 
 The paroli version used in MS5 seems very very old (in paroli terms) I 
 will try to get it updated.
 
 /mirko
 

Hello all,
Tried to install Paroli on MS5 and think I've got a repository issue
stopping my success. I installed FSO rootfs:

openmoko-fso-illume-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2

which does not include much stuff and tried to install paroli as per the
web instructions [1]. When I try the command DISPLAY=:0; python
paroli-launcher I get an error:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File paroli-launcher, line 58, in module
import tichy
  File ../paroli-core/tichy/__init__.py, line 42, in module
import gui_paroli as gui
  File ../paroli-core/tichy/gui_paroli/__init__.py, line 20, in module
import e_dbus
ImportError: No module named e_dbus

the web page [1] does say that you need e_dbus so that's fine but if I
issue the command:

opkg list | grep e_dbus

there are no packages that match that search. If I do an opkg update I
get one error which might be the problem:

Collected errors:
 * Failed to download
http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-milestone5/feeds//armv4/Packages.gz,
error 404

Can anybody tell me where I could get hold of e_dbus so that I can have
a look at Paroli.

Thanks


[1] http://www.paroli-project.org/running-paroli/
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Re: yaouh! 0.3 is out

2009-02-09 Thread Helge Hafting
Yaouh 0.3 ran to completion last night, without crashing. Very good!

Helge Hafting

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Re: yaouh! 0.4 is out

2009-02-09 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Carlo Minucci ge...@napodano.com wrote:
 download from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh!

 little bufgix and add support for multiple wget download
 i think now is more fast

 please, test and feedback

 see you


Hi!

Thanks for the update!

Since tangogps decided to hard-code the default repositories as well
map file locations, I'd like to see
a) tangogps go back to the text config file or
b) yaouh hard code the same data or
c) yaouh add the default repositories in tangogps config file thus
overriding tangogps hard-coding

It's pity that tango decided to go for hard coded, it makes the life
more difficult for other apps to work with tangogps.

At the moment installing tangogps and yaouh leaves yaouh non-functional.

r


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Re: yaouh! 0.3 is out

2009-02-09 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote:
 Yaouh 0.3 ran to completion last night, without crashing. Very good!

 Helge Hafting

Nice!

How long did it take, how many files do you have to scan? Now the 0.4
version has parallel wget download support you'd think it's faster.

Could you provide us with your tangogps config file so I could try yaouh too.

r




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Re: QT Extended GPRS

2009-02-09 Thread Tomas Riveros Schober
Jelle De Loecker escribió:
 Good morning everyone,

 I've flashed the latest QT Extended image, once with mwester's kernel, 
 once with the kernel supplied in the package.
 To get GPRS working I tried these instructions: http://tinyurl.com/dysvkn
 (Which made me download a set of packages from mwester's site)

 For some reason, though, whenever the phone would initiate gprs it would 
 completely freeze...

 Has anyone else encountered the same problem?

 Greetings,
 Jelle De Loecker

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no, but my gprs works fine after setting it up using the gui (setting 
the dns myself using the opendns one) and manually editing 
/etc/resolv.conf  and /etc/ppp/resolv.conf to the opendns values since 
somehow only using the gui managed to connect but not resolve names 
properly.

Tom

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Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj

2009-02-09 Thread Guillaume Chereau
On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 10:06 +, Arigead wrote:
 Hello all,
 Tried to install Paroli on MS5 and think I've got a repository issue
 stopping my success. I installed FSO rootfs:
 
 openmoko-fso-illume-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2
 
 which does not include much stuff and tried to install paroli as per the
 web instructions [1]. When I try the command DISPLAY=:0; python
 paroli-launcher I get an error:
 
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File paroli-launcher, line 58, in module
 import tichy
   File ../paroli-core/tichy/__init__.py, line 42, in module
 import gui_paroli as gui
   File ../paroli-core/tichy/gui_paroli/__init__.py, line 20, in module
 import e_dbus
 ImportError: No module named e_dbus
 
 the web page [1] does say that you need e_dbus so that's fine but if I
 issue the command:
 
 opkg list | grep e_dbus
 
 there are no packages that match that search. 
The package name is 'python-edbus'.

 If I do an opkg update I
 get one error which might be the problem:
 
 Collected errors:
  * Failed to download
 http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-milestone5/feeds//armv4/Packages.gz,
 error 404
It depends, maybe you did get the package from an other feed. Try to
type :

  opkg list | grep python-edbus


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Re: [SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading

2009-02-09 Thread Antony King
On Saturday 07 February 2009 21:25:05 Steffen Winkler wrote:
 german is a bad(?) language...english is much better (easier to learn,
 better gramma and so on)

Damn, there goes the coffee all over my keyboard again :-D

Even as a native, english english speaker I can see english isn't the simplest 
language to learn - I'm trying to teach my 3 yr old to read at the moment 
which is an excellent way of discovering just how inconsistent spelling and 
pronounciation is in english. I guess getting invaded every 2-300 years until 
900 odd years ago, coupled with the royal family swanning about between 
germany, france and spain ever since then is a great way of muddling up a 
language :-) I do like 's for possessive though - whoever brought that one 
to our shores was a genius :-)

Kudos to those non-natives on the list that write so well!

FWIW, I twigged akku as accumulator becuase that was the word used for 
capacitors in the 1960's radio ham mags that my father had :-)


 Am Samstag, den 07.02.2009, 20:16 +0100 schrieb arne anka:
  well, it's short for akkumulator -- replace kk with cc and, according to
  my dictionary, it is part of english too -- with the same meaning.
 
   Ahh, no, I guess we don't have any handy four-letter word for
   rechargeable batteries. Heheh
 
  that's the beauty of german :-) we don't even have such nice ...
  abbreviations ... like WWW as opposed to the much longer World Wide Web
  *scnr*

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Re: Debug Boards 50% off from Truebox

2009-02-09 Thread Antony King
On Sunday 08 February 2009 09:08:00 Christoph Pulster wrote:
  having a clearout of the warehouse - We take most debit/credit cards

 Good luck getting your card charged with this company.
 Truebox cheat me 2200 eur.

You can't blame us for currency rate movements - and publically slagging off 
competitors is unprofessional no ? FWIW, out of all the orders we have ever 
shipped, /both/ unhappy customers have posted to the list.

As I said, we have them in stock, our bank allow us to do credit card 
transactions so they'll be out the door as soon as the card clears. UK 
shipping normally takes about 2 working days.



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Re: [SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading

2009-02-09 Thread arne anka
 On Saturday 07 February 2009 21:25:05 Steffen Winkler wrote:
 german is a bad(?) language...english is much better (easier to learn,
 better gramma and so on)

 Damn, there goes the coffee all over my keyboard again :-D

 Even as a native, english english speaker I can see english isn't the  
 simplest language to learn


well, at least it's easier to learn bad english than bad german :-)

  - I'm trying to teach my 3 yr old to read at the moment
 which is an excellent way of discovering just how inconsistent spelling  
 and pronounciation is in english.

oh, knowing a few languages myself i safely can say, it is not a specific  
english problem -- others have it as well.
and german being spoken and developed in an area where most of europe's  
tribes once went back and forth over the last 2000 years and continue to  
do, is in no way different -- only, here the inconsistent spelling is  
believed to be part of the national identity and needs to be protected by  
law ...


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Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj

2009-02-09 Thread Arigead
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Guillaume Chereau wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 10:06 +, Arigead wrote:
 Hello all,
 Tried to install Paroli on MS5 and think I've got a repository issue
 stopping my success. I installed FSO rootfs:

 openmoko-fso-illume-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2

 which does not include much stuff and tried to install paroli as per the
 web instructions [1]. When I try the command DISPLAY=:0; python
 paroli-launcher I get an error:

 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File paroli-launcher, line 58, in module
 import tichy
   File ../paroli-core/tichy/__init__.py, line 42, in module
 import gui_paroli as gui
   File ../paroli-core/tichy/gui_paroli/__init__.py, line 20, in module
 import e_dbus
 ImportError: No module named e_dbus

 the web page [1] does say that you need e_dbus so that's fine but if I
 issue the command:

 opkg list | grep e_dbus

 there are no packages that match that search. 
 The package name is 'python-edbus'.
 
 If I do an opkg update I
 get one error which might be the problem:

 Collected errors:
  * Failed to download
 http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-milestone5/feeds//armv4/Packages.gz,
 error 404
 It depends, maybe you did get the package from an other feed. Try to
 type :
 
   opkg list | grep python-edbus
 
Thanks so much for that, and sorry I should have thought of removing the
'_' !

John
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Re: QT Extended GPRS

2009-02-09 Thread Radek Polak

 no, but my gprs works fine after setting it up using the gui (setting 
 the dns myself using the opendns one) and manually editing 
 /etc/resolv.conf  and /etc/ppp/resolv.conf to the opendns values since 
 somehow only using the gui managed to connect but not resolve names 
 properly.

 Tom
   
You can set DNS from the GUI too. My problem with GPRS was that
i had to switch a few times from Start on demand/manual option. But
after few attempts it always started working and was ok then.

Radek

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Re: [debian] opera mini .. ?

2009-02-09 Thread Erland Lewin
2009/2/9 vale va...@gmx.de


 hm i have also problems with cacao and jamvm with other java programs as
 (cachewolf), i think only openjdk seems to be mostly compatible with sun
 java. but unfortunantly is not very fast :(


Where do you download openjdk from? Do you build it yourself? Can it be
built in the openembedded environment? What's the package name?

Thanks for any hints

/Confused
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Re: [debian] opera mini .. ?

2009-02-09 Thread vale

If you are using debian, you can just 

apt-get install openjdk-6-jre 

I don't think that there is a bitbake receipt for openjdk available from
openembedded, but i never searched for it ... however for other distros than
debian you gan get the .deb package, extract it and install it manually i
think. use ar x *.deb to extract, then look into the data and control
tar.gz to find out dependencies and where to install.

hope this helps

greetings 

vale





Erland Lewin wrote:
 
 2009/2/9 vale va...@gmx.de
 

 hm i have also problems with cacao and jamvm with other java programs as
 (cachewolf), i think only openjdk seems to be mostly compatible with sun
 java. but unfortunantly is not very fast :(
 
 
 Where do you download openjdk from? Do you build it yourself? Can it be
 built in the openembedded environment? What's the package name?
 
 Thanks for any hints
 
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Re: yaouh! 0.4 is out - 10x speedup hack

2009-02-09 Thread Helge Hafting

Carlo Minucci wrote:

download from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh!

little bufgix and add support for multiple wget download
i think now is more fast

please, test and feedback


Seems to work fine, but it looks like only the downloading happens in 
parallel. A common case seems to be only 5%-10% new tiles. The rest
just need checking. This is done with sequential use of curl. I.e. no 
parallel checking, although this is a big part of a yaouh run.



I am no expert in python threading, so I did a much simpler hack.
I run 10 instances of yaouh. yaouh0.py only checks files matching
*0.png, yaouh1.py only checks files matching *1.png, and so on.

This gives a tremendous speedup because curl transfers very little data. 
Serialized curl spend most of the time waiting for an answer, while one 
request and a very small answer moves through the network to a distant 
server and back again. The bandwith of the connection is nowhere near 
fully utilized, not even when using usb networking.


So my 10 processes fires off 10 curls in parallel, giving a 10x speedup 
if the network can handle the load. usb networking seems to handle it 
fine when there are few updates.


This is a hack and not yet an real solution, because there is much room
for improvement. First, I have to press the start button in all 10 
windows which is excessive. There shouldn't be 10 windows in a real

solution. Then all my 10 yaouh processes run the same find
in the beginning, in order to count the number of files. That is 
unnecessary - such a startup is 10 times heavier than it need to be. 
Still, this don't take much time compared to the rest. Finally, there 
are now 10 progress bars being updated in those 10 windows.


Still, this approach has checked 5000 files (out of 50.) in the 20 
minutes it took to write this mail. And downloaded about 300 outdated 
tiles. There is the hope that my 50.000 tiles will be up to date in 3.5 
hours. :-)


A patch for yaouh 0.4 is attached, if anyone wants to test this, or 
improve it further. The patched file is available here:

http://www.aitel.hist.no/~helgehaf/openmoko/yaouhx.py

To use it, make 10 copies named yaouh0.py, yaouh1.py, ... yaouh9.py.
In each script, edit line 159, so yaouh0.py has 0 in the if-test,
yaouh1.py has 1 in the if-test, yaouh2.py has 2 in the test, and so on.

Then, start everything with a command like:
$ yaouh0.py  yaouh1.py  yaouh2.py  yaouh3.py  yaouh4.py  yaouh5.py 
 yaouh6.py  yaouh7.py  yaouh8.py  yaouh9.py 


Running 10 scripts eats some memory, some may not be able to run all 10 
at the same time. Having a swap partition may help with that.


Helge Hafting



--- yaouh.py2009-02-09 13:32:59.0 +0100
+++ ../public_html/openmoko/yaouhx.py   2009-02-09 13:19:33.0 +0100
@@ -150,21 +150,27 @@
for root, dirs, files in os.walk(dir):
for name in files:
i=i+1
+   self.pbar.set_fraction(p)
+   p=p+ip
+
+   #in the if-test, use 0 for yaouh0.py,
+   #use 1 for yaouh1.py, and so on
+   #up to yaouh9.py
+   if name[len(name)-5] != 0 : 
+   continue
+
url = self.create_url(plain_url, root, 
name[:name.find('.')], invert)
command_curl = curl -A yaouh -I \ + 
url + \ --stderr /dev/null | grep ETag | cut -d \ \ -f 2
curl=os.popen(command_curl)
etag=curl.read()
etag=etag.replace(\, ).rstrip()
-   
+   
command_md5 = md5sum  + join(root, 
name)
md5sum=os.popen(command_md5)
md5=md5sum.read()
md5=string.split(md5,  )
md5=md5[0]

-   self.pbar.set_fraction(p)
-   
-   p=p+ip
if etag != md5:
c=c+1
self.command_wget = wget 
--user-agent yaouh -q  + url +  -O  +  join(root, name) +  
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Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj

2009-02-09 Thread Arigead
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   opkg list | grep python-edbus
 
 

Got python-edbus installed but still hitting problems with running
paroli on MS5. My Python is not good enough for my looking at the code
to have any point but if I get a chance later I'll try find the source
of the problem. If anybody has any ideas in the mean time that would be
great.

r...@om-gta02:~/paroli/paroli-scripts# DISPLAY=:0; python paroli-launcher
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File paroli-launcher, line 58, in module
import tichy
  File ../paroli-core/tichy/__init__.py, line 42, in module
import gui_paroli as gui
  File ../paroli-core/tichy/gui_paroli/__init__.py, line 27, in module
import ecore.x
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/ecore/x/__init__.py, line 266,
in module
init()
  File ecore.x.c_ecore_x.pyx, line 38, in ecore.x.c_ecore_x.init
(ecore/x/ecore.x.c_ecore_x.c:2034)
  File ecore.x.c_ecore_x_events.pxi, line 657, in
ecore.x.c_ecore_x.x_events_register (ecore/x/ecore.x.c_ecore_x.c:12557)
  File ecore.c_ecore_events.pxi, line 27, in
ecore.c_ecore._event_mapping_register (ecore/ecore.c_ecore.c:7245)
ValueError: event type '0' already registered.

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liqbase on Freerunner?

2009-02-09 Thread JC Denton
Watch this:
http://liqbase.net/

Any possibility to get this onto the Freerunner? It's licensed under GPLv2
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Re: Debug Boards 50% off from Truebox

2009-02-09 Thread Jan Henkins
Wait a minute, last thing we need on this list is competitors having a
slugfest. Please desist, this is highly unprofessional!

For what it's worth, I bought my FR via Truebox, and I do not have any
issues with how they conducted themselves. Everything went exactly as it
should.


On Sun, February 8, 2009 09:08, Christoph Pulster wrote:
 having a clearout of the warehouse - We take most debit/credit cards

 Good luck getting your card charged with this company.
 Truebox cheat me 2200 eur.



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Re: Qwo update

2009-02-09 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
oki doki -- built 0.4 version under sid's chroot on my FR

you should be able to get it from 
http://itanix.rutgers.edu/rumba/dists/sid/perspect/binary-armel/x11/qwo_0.4-1_armel.deb

also I've fixed up repository configuration so now there is Release file
for armel, so you should be able to apt-get install it if you add
following line

deb http://itanix.rutgers.edu/rumba sid perspect

to your /etc/apt/sources.list

but prior doing apt-get update you would need to add the key for this
archive to the list of trusted:

wget http://www.onerussian.com/Linux/rumba-debianarchive.asc
cat rumba-debianarchive.asc | apt-key add -


NB: I've not tested myself this new package, so you might hit various
issues ;-)

NB#2: qwo package submission into Debian is still in the NEW queue...
might take few more weeks to pass NEW (if it does pass on the 1st try)

Enjoy

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009, kimaidou wrote:

Hi all
Is there a new package for Debian too ? I am using the 0.3 on my
hackable, and I would like to test the last one.
NB : for those who wants to install it on debian/hackable, do :
 cd ~
 wget 
 [1]http://itanix.rutgers.edu/rumba/dists/sid/perspect/binary-armel/x11/qwo_0.3+git20090110+6db30-1~pre3_armel.deb;

 apt-get install libconfig6
 dpkg -i qwo_0.3+git20090110+6db30-1~pre3_armel.deb
 cd /usr/bin
 mv xkbd xkbd.moved
 ln -s qwo xkbd

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Re: yaouh! 0.4 is out

2009-02-09 Thread Helge Hafting
Carlo Minucci wrote:
 download from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh!
 
 little bufgix and add support for multiple wget download
 i think now is more fast
 
 please, test and feedback

I see crashes, for several different reasons. This one is common:

cut: standard output: Broken pipe
[5]   Segmentation fault yaouh.py

Something went wrong with a pipe. It'd be nice if yaouh simply logged 
the error and went on to the next tile, instead of
crashing. Maybe there were a network timeout, maybe there wasn't enough 
memory to run cut at that moment? The exact error isn't that 
interesting, but some robustness is useful as there will be more pipes 
set up than there are tiles.

I have also seen an alignemnt trap in the gtk libraries once. Probably 
not your fault though.

Helge Hafting

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Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj

2009-02-09 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi,

Arigead wrote:

 Got python-edbus installed but still hitting problems with running
 paroli on MS5. My Python is not good enough for my looking at the code
 to have any point but if I get a chance later I'll try find the source
 of the problem. If anybody has any ideas in the mean time that would be
 great.
 
 r...@om-gta02:~/paroli/paroli-scripts# DISPLAY=:0; python paroli-launcher
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File paroli-launcher, line 58, in module
 import tichy
   File ../paroli-core/tichy/__init__.py, line 42, in module
 import gui_paroli as gui
   File ../paroli-core/tichy/gui_paroli/__init__.py, line 27, in module
 import ecore.x
   File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/ecore/x/__init__.py, line 266,
 in module
 init()
   File ecore.x.c_ecore_x.pyx, line 38, in ecore.x.c_ecore_x.init
 (ecore/x/ecore.x.c_ecore_x.c:2034)
   File ecore.x.c_ecore_x_events.pxi, line 657, in
 ecore.x.c_ecore_x.x_events_register (ecore/x/ecore.x.c_ecore_x.c:12557)
   File ecore.c_ecore_events.pxi, line 27, in
 ecore.c_ecore._event_mapping_register (ecore/ecore.c_ecore.c:7245)
 ValueError: event type '0' already registered.
 

Yepp, it is an error in the python bindings of ecore.x. The easiest way 
to get around this error is to remove the import call in 
../paroli-core/tichy/gui_paroli/__init__.py, line 27. We don't use the 
module currently. I will also remove it in the git.

Not sure since when the module is broken, in the version of MS5 that I 
have all is still working even when importing that module.

/mirko

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Re: yaouh! 0.3 is out

2009-02-09 Thread Helge Hafting
Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote:
 Yaouh 0.3 ran to completion last night, without crashing. Very good!

 Helge Hafting
 
 Nice!
 
 How long did it take, how many files do you have to scan? Now the 0.4
I have about 52000 files to scan. Start in the evening, let it run all 
night, it completed sometime when I was sleeping.

 version has parallel wget download support you'd think it's faster.
 
That only helps if there are lots of files to update. It don't help the 
speed of scanning - and that seems to be most of the work. Of course, if 
you haven't used yaouh before and have lots of old files, then it might 
help a lot. I try to update once a week because they render the maps 
once a week. There are lots of tiles that doesn't change in a week.

 Could you provide us with your tangogps config file so I could try yaouh too.

I can't see how that could help - I have my maps in /media/card/kart/
That won't work for you unless you have exactly the same setup?

And where is this file? ~/.tangogps has two 1-byte files.

Helge Hafting

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Re: yaouh! 0.3 is out

2009-02-09 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote:
 Could you provide us with your tangogps config file so I could try yaouh too.

 I can't see how that could help - I have my maps in /media/card/kart/
 That won't work for you unless you have exactly the same setup?

 And where is this file? ~/.tangogps has two 1-byte files.

pre-tangogps 0.9.5 saved the repository configuration by default in
these config files
0.9.5 has the repositories hard-coded

I suppose you've installed pre-0.9.5 version first and maybe later
updated to 0.9.5 - your pre-0.9.5 version config files are still
around and both yaouh and tangogps use these files.

Now if someone installs 0.9.5 without previous installations - no
config files around unless you manually write them or manually change
the settings of every repository tangogps uses.

Fresh tangogps 0.9.5 install - no config files in ~/.tangogps -
yaouh doesn't find folders/repositories to update.
Save a config file in ~/.tangogps - both tangogps and yaouh will use this.

Write a config file from scratch - fail.
Someone sends you a sample config file - win :)

Got it ;)?

r

(I can't see why tangogps has it hard-coded..)

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Re: Debug Boards 50% off from Truebox

2009-02-09 Thread Michele Renda
On 09/02/2009 12:22, Antony King wrote:

 You can't blame us for currency rate movements - and publically 
 slagging off competitors is unprofessional no ?

If I order a FR to you, and you are not able to sell to me, and you 
charge me the transaction/other costs too, I call this unprofessional.

 FWIW, out of all the orders we have ever shipped, /both/ unhappy 
 customers have posted to the list.

 As I said, we have them in stock, our bank allow us to do credit card 
 transactions so they'll be out the door as soon as the card clears. UK 
 shipping normally takes about 2 working days.

I am happy so. Your work, like the Pulster one, is important for all us. 
I hope you (You, Pulters, Openmoko and all the other resellers) will 
have big bussiness, to get out loved/hated phone to be one of the most 
sold phone in the world.

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Re: A2DP success with Nokia BH-604

2009-02-09 Thread Simon Kagstrom
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 21:36:03 +0100
arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote:

  I just wanted to mention that after following Lothar Behrens and
  Steven Kings instructions for Jabra BT3030 I've got A2DP working
  for my Nokia BH-604 headset as well.
 
 could you put that together and make it into a wiki page? resp update
 the relevent wiki page?

I added this page which now mostly just contains a HOWTO:

  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/A2DP

I've removed most of the A2DP stuff from

  
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Advanced_Audio_Distribution_Profile_.28A2DP.29

(I don't believe it was working anyway).

// Simon

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Re: A2DP success with Nokia BH-604

2009-02-09 Thread Ed Kapitein
Thanks!

Perhaps you need to change 2009.12
http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=2009.12action=edit to 2008.12 ?

Kind regards,
Ed

Simon Kagstrom wrote:
 On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 21:36:03 +0100
 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote:

   
 I just wanted to mention that after following Lothar Behrens and
 Steven Kings instructions for Jabra BT3030 I've got A2DP working
 for my Nokia BH-604 headset as well.
   
 could you put that together and make it into a wiki page? resp update
 the relevent wiki page?
 

 I added this page which now mostly just contains a HOWTO:

   http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/A2DP

 I've removed most of the A2DP stuff from

   
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Advanced_Audio_Distribution_Profile_.28A2DP.29

 (I don't believe it was working anyway).

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Re: Karlsruhe OpenMoko User Meet

2009-02-09 Thread Michael Tansella
On Sunday 08 February 2009 10:03:00 Christoph Pulster wrote:
 Hi,

 I want to support the Openmoko user meeting in Karlruhe/Germany with
 free pouches/headsets and other accesories for each user who is there.

Nice to hear,
you are welcome to join our meeting.
Regards
Michael

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Re: yaouh! 0.4 is out

2009-02-09 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
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I suggest that the next development step for Yaouh! should be a
workaround to set properly the program for fetching repos from
TangoGPS... personally, even a manual configuration of repos in Yaouh!
could be for me more functional than the actual state...

Regards ;)

Risto H. Kurppa ha scritto:
 On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Carlo Minucci ge...@napodano.com wrote:
 download from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh!

 little bufgix and add support for multiple wget download
 i think now is more fast

 please, test and feedback

 see you
 
 
 Hi!
 
 Thanks for the update!
 
 Since tangogps decided to hard-code the default repositories as well
 map file locations, I'd like to see
 a) tangogps go back to the text config file or
 b) yaouh hard code the same data or
 c) yaouh add the default repositories in tangogps config file thus
 overriding tangogps hard-coding
 
 It's pity that tango decided to go for hard coded, it makes the life
 more difficult for other apps to work with tangogps.
 
 At the moment installing tangogps and yaouh leaves yaouh non-functional.
 
 r

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flashing Neo Freerunner problems

2009-02-09 Thread C R McClenaghan
All,

I had set my Neo aside for a few weeks and on returning to it I'm  
unable to flash a new kernel or root file system.

Of course I was previously able to flash. The most recent changes I  
can recall involve restoring the Nand uboot as I had installed debian  
and wanted to undo the changes to allow that to work. I cannot recall  
the exact steps taken to accomplish that, but I believe it was  
nominally successful and I installed FSO milestone 3. There have been  
some changes to my host envrionment - MAC OS X with VMWare, but I'm  
using the same Ubuntu 8.10 VM as was used to install the FSO ms 3. I  
did create a CentOS 5.2 vm and have the same problem flashing there as  
well.

When I run dfu-util -l while at the NOR menu there are no listed usb  
devices. When I boot the NEO into FSO, I am able to connect via USB  
networking.

I'm kind of stumped, and admit it might be something simple that I'm  
forgetting, but I have not found anything in the wiki to solve this  
problem or to jog my memory.

I do have a debug board and am prepared to go that route, but I've not  
satisfied myself that it clearly the NEO versus my host environment.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Chris


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Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1

2009-02-09 Thread Marcel
Am Monday 09 February 2009 10:57:45 schrieb arne anka:
  So, installed xserver-xorg-input-tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1 as linked on the
  wiki [1],
  added the option in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and fired a
  $ /etc/init.d/nodm restart
  But still I get no right click action.

Oh, just noticed the link to the wiki page was missing

 tslib works with Xglamo only.
 with a regular installation you are using fb -- use libgtkstylus. i don't
 have the exact name handy right now, but the archives should turn up
 several hits.

The wiki says it's the other way round. Anyway I tried both and they didn't 
work...

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Simulating_right_click_with_stylus

Is there a way to find out *why* it's not working? Atm I just try and fail, 
this is not too productive... :D

  The cursor is flickering round a few pixels (more or less) around the
  location I'm clicking, does that prevent
  xorg from recognizing a true right click (too much movement over time)?

 no. the flickering is normal.

I experienced that before, but was just wondering if it's just too much to 
work. Okay.

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Re: liqbase on Freerunner?

2009-02-09 Thread Aapo Rantalainen
http://liqbase.net/

Indeed, it has couple of nice features, but is there something special for moko?
Just compiling it for openmiko is not possible. It uses libraries like
osso and hildon, which need to be ported first. I think this is not
yet done,  Debian/ubuntu (x86) has libhildon and libosso, so it is not
impossible. (And then we can port easile any maemo applications to
openmoko)

I like that multitouch-simulation demo. Maybe it can be isolated from package.

-Aapo Rantalainen

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Re: liqbase on Freerunner?

2009-02-09 Thread Aapo Rantalainen
http://liqbase.net/

Ok, I have very wrong, libhildon and libosso are both in OE.
And isolating multitouch-simulating demo is same than implementing it
from scratch. (but there are good point how to simulating is done)

-Aapo Rantalainen

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Re: London pub meet on the 11th

2009-02-09 Thread gnublade
Just pinging the list to say that we're on for the 11th (this
Wednesday) at the Old Bank of England on Fleet Street from 7.30.

http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/66/660/Old_Bank_of_England/Fleet_Street

Invite any OM owners, potential owners and interested parties,
hopefully we can get a good mix of distributions and share our tips,
tricks and war stories.  If you own an OpenMoko it goes without saying
bring it with, even if it's a brick you never know somebody might be
able to breath some life into it.

Hope to see you there.

2009/2/3 Tina Friedrich lists+openm...@rumpelkeks.de:
 Hello all,

 what snow? Got promised about 10cm of the white stuff for two days
 running, didn't even get one overall! (That's in Oxford, btw). So
 envious whenever I see pics from virtually everywhere else in
 England (it seems).

 I shall try to come to the pub meet, however work might get in the way.

 Hopefully see you next week, then!

 Tina

 On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 02:52:08 -0800 (PST)
 Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net wrote:

 Gothnet wrote:
 
  Hello all,
 
  So, it's a couple of weeks since the last thread, are we still
  having a pub meet on the 11th?
 
  I've looked at the pubs suggested, and my vote's on the Old Bank of
  England on Fleet street. I don't like Sam Smith's beer and OBoE is
  lazily close to work :)
 
  So who's available and could sup a couple of beers and chat about
  the state of the world/phone?
 
  I'm Dave, by the way, and only used to be a goth, though the name
  kinda stuck.
 


 This plan does, of course, rely on the snow stopping at some point.

 It's years since I've seen this much snow.

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separate mailing lists for each GTA device?

2009-02-09 Thread Ben Wilson
I'm not a heavy openmoko mailing list user but I do read some of it to 
try and keep up to date.
As an owner of a GTA01 I find it quite tricky to keep up to date on the 
state-of/discussion-on GTA01 because of the massive volume of GTA02 
communications.

Feel free to argue either way on this idea but maybe it would be 
beneficial to have a separate list for GTA01 and maybe GTA02/03 as well.
A place where people could talk about issues only related to a single 
device or give updates on the status of things for that device.

I'm probably not alone in my email filters to move list emails into 
folders GTA01, GTA02, GTA03 and GTA04 if they contain that text, which 
isn't a very good solution to the problem.

What are your thoughts on it? or other possible solutions.

Ben.

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[meta] Re: separate mailing lists for each GTA device?

2009-02-09 Thread Brock
On 2009.02.10.11.26, Ben Wilson wrote:
| What are your thoughts on it? or other possible solutions.

Separate lists per-device (and per-distro) has been discussed and
dismissed previously. The general consensus is to push for topic-aware
subjects like [GTA01] or [debian].

--Brock


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Re: separate mailing lists for each GTA device?

2009-02-09 Thread Kosa
Ben Wilson escribió:
 I'm not a heavy openmoko mailing list user but I do read some of it to 
 try and keep up to date.
 As an owner of a GTA01 I find it quite tricky to keep up to date on the 
 state-of/discussion-on GTA01 because of the massive volume of GTA02 
 communications.

 Feel free to argue either way on this idea but maybe it would be 
 beneficial to have a separate list for GTA01 and maybe GTA02/03 as well.
 A place where people could talk about issues only related to a single 
 device or give updates on the status of things for that device.

 I'm probably not alone in my email filters to move list emails into 
 folders GTA01, GTA02, GTA03 and GTA04 if they contain that text, which 
 isn't a very good solution to the problem.

 What are your thoughts on it? or other possible solutions.

 Ben.
   
+1

GTA01 is not the same thing as GTA02, even if they have the
same case. I think GTA03 is not going to have the same case,
and I think it will certanly need it's own list. Now we know
Openmoko is not working on one, but two new products, which
I think would need their own list too.

Community's mailing list will still be full of all kind of topics and
devices, but separated mailinglists for those who don't want /
have the time to read tons of emails to stay up to date.

What if one of those products OM is working on is a tablet, or a
gps device? I don't think they would fit very well on the same
list with the Frerunner and 1973.

Cheers

Kosa

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Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-09 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 11:46:31PM +0100, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote:

[on battery power]
The following is with the Debian distribution (with ancient 2.6.24
 kernel), xscreensaver not installed and GSM off:
 
 Suspended: 20 % battery charge remaining after 3 days.
 If sitting idle (not suspended) with the screen blanked: 20 hours[1]. But
 7 hours drain 38 % of capacity, which gives about 18.5 hours instaed.

   I've checked out the 2.6.28 kernel from the andy-tracking branch, and it
does better. After 12 hours, there's still 37 % charge left in the battery
with an estimated 7.5 hours left. Where the 2.6.24 kernel would draw 56 mA
from a fully charged battery, the 2.6.28 kernel is down to 49 mA and with 37
% carge left, it is only up to 55 mA at 3.78 V.

IIRC, the parts that take power directly from the battery are GSM, the
 audio amplifier and the vibrator motor.

   USB 5 V power supply too, btw.

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Re: [2008.12] Kustomizer 0.2 released

2009-02-09 Thread Samuel Pereira

Hi,

How you create desktop folders ?

Thanks,
Samuel



Hi!

A new release of Kustomizer is made, see
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kustomizer

Kustomizer is a script that converts your clean OM 2008.12
installation on Openmoko Freerunner into a usable
phone/pda/toy/something.
The script is licensed with GPLv2 licence. The applications that it
installs around the Net might have other licenses, check the original
sites for more information.
The first time you run Kustomizer, it installes opkg.org repository,
Illume-theme and terminal keyboard, files for better call audio
quality, xterm. Also a CPU resource bug is fixed (qpe). A restart is
required for this to take effect and Kustomizer will do this for you.
The second run will install the rest: loads of cool applications,
GPRS, link map direcories from µSD card, mokoservices and tap/untap
etc. You don't have to make the second run if you don't want.

Changelog:

# Version 0.2 - 2008-02-06
# CHANGELOG IN THIS VERSION
# (new) two run system:
# 1st run: illume-theme, wrench, qwerty are installed, opkg.org,
storage.conf/qpe-bug fixed. Then restarted
# 2nd run: user needs to start Kustomizer again (and switch
suspend/dim off!!) - the rest is installed
# Rewriting the instructions
# General cleaning
# (new) ntpclient
# (new) http://www.opkg.org/package_121.html - MokoMaze
# (new) ttf-liberation-mono (vala-terminal uses this)
# (new) battery http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Forcing_fast_charge_mode
# (new) runs /media/card/customscript - the user can add his own stuff there
# (new) automatic prevention of suspend  dimming
# (update) yaouh - version update
# (update) neon - version update
# (remove) Finnish keyboard layout  dictionary
# (remove) custom scripts from card
# (remove) cellhunter - on FSO-based only?
# (remove) Guitartune - on FSO-based only and libfft fails to install
# (remove) fourier - libfft fails to install
# (remove) zomg and appmanager - less used..
# (remove) pingus - doesn't install
# (remove) mumpot - useless for most
# (remove) usbmode - battery replaces most of this
# (fix) watch checkrate changed from 1s to 2s
# (fix) libglade-2.0 - libglade-2.0-0

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Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-09 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk writes:
I've checked out the 2.6.28 kernel from the andy-tracking branch, and it
 does better. After 12 hours, there's still 37 % charge left in the battery
 with an estimated 7.5 hours left. Where the 2.6.24 kernel would draw 56 mA
 from a fully charged battery, the 2.6.28 kernel is down to 49 mA and with 37
 % carge left, it is only up to 55 mA at 3.78 V.

Kernel version should not matter here as long as you are powering down
the appropriate devices?


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