Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-10 Thread Cédric Berger
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:32, Timo Juhani Lindfors
timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote:
 Kernel version should not matter here as long as you are powering down
 the appropriate devices?


It does, because older kernel may not power down correctly these devices...

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Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj

2009-02-10 Thread Arigead
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Mirko Lindner wrote:
 
 Yepp, it is an error in the python bindings of ecore.x. The easiest way
 to get around this error is to remove the import call in
 ../paroli-core/tichy/gui_paroli/__init__.py, line 27. We don't use the
 module currently. I will also remove it in the git.
 
 Not sure since when the module is broken, in the version of MS5 that I
 have all is still working even when importing that module.
 
 /mirko
 

Hi Mirko,
according to the Paroli web pages this is a good a place as any to
discuss issues on Paroli. Perhaps it'd be better on Devel which doesn't
see much action these days?

Anyhow thanks for your help I got Paroli launcher running with your help
but I'm a bit surprised with the results. The only app available in the
paroli-launcher is Tele, I'd expected it to pick up contacts and the
other apps in paroli.

As for Tele it does no start up the GSM modem at all, and register to
the network, so I can't make a call with it. Is this a know issue? I'd
like to help out by doing a bit of testing and giving some feedback.
I've probably a lot of opinion but for a start I'd like to be able to
make a phone call if I can't do that I'll have to reinstall zhone, but I
was hoping to move on from that app.

John
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Re: [2008.12] Kustomizer 0.2 released

2009-02-10 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Samuel Pereira em...@samuelpereira.net wrote:
 Hi,

 How you create desktop folders ?

 Thanks,
 Samuel


So I suppose you were able to install it, good :)

It uses sortdesk, see http://www.opkg.org/package_95.html
- creating a new folder: run
sortdesk add newfoldername

and then move the icons as described in http://www.opkg.org/package_95.html


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Re: separate mailing lists for each GTA device?

2009-02-10 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
-1

 - it's hard for Random Joe to know if the question applies only to
GTA0X or also GTA0Y
 - maybe we should first wait and see what's the new device (type)
before starting a new mailing list for it..?

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Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-10 Thread Erland Lewin
2009/1/31 Tschaka stuff4tsch...@gmx.net


 2) Calls


My main problem with the FR at the moment is that the volume in the built-in
earpiece, and wired headset as well are way too low. It works in a quiet
indoor environment, but on a busy street I can hardly hear that someone is
talking on the phone at all, and in a room with other people talking in the
background, it is difficult to hear the person at the other end.

Does anyone else have this problem? I'm surprised it isn't discussed more.

This prevents me from using the FR as a daily phone, because I need to be
able to answer calls even when I'm out and about.

My impression is that this is a hardware limitation, and that even with max
volume from the GSM chip to the audio codec (CLVL=255), and maximum Alsa
volumes, the volume won't be high enough from the earpiece.. I think the
only way around this is to use a Bluetooth headset, but I don't think the
Bluetooth headset profile works in the version of the bluetooth stack
(bluez-3) that's on the Freerunner now.

/Erland
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Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj

2009-02-10 Thread Guillaume Chereau
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 08:08 +, Arigead wrote:
 As for Tele it does no start up the GSM modem at all, and register to
 the network, so I can't make a call with it. Is this a know issue? I'd
 like to help out by doing a bit of testing and giving some feedback.
 I've probably a lot of opinion but for a start I'd like to be able to
 make a phone call if I can't do that I'll have to reinstall zhone, but
 I
 was hoping to move on from that app.

Hi John,

They are two things you could look for :

First, if you start paroli directy from its source directory, and you
don't have it installed, it will read the local config file
./paroli.cfg, wich set GSM service to TEST, so that you will never get
connected to the network. If you see this line the log :

 INFO set service GSM to Test

Then it means you have to comment the line

 defaults = GSM:Test, SIM:Test, Audio:Test,

in paroli.cfg

Second thing is that even when you run paroli using the correct GSM
service, you get no visual indication of the connection status. And it
can be quite long before you get a network connection.

Could you please repeat the operation and send the log (/tmp/paroli.log)
to the mailing list ?

Regards,

Guillaume


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Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1

2009-02-10 Thread arne anka
 tslib works with Xglamo only.
 with a regular installation you are using fb -- use libgtkstylus. i  
 don't
 have the exact name handy right now, but the archives should turn up
 several hits.

 The wiki says it's the other way round. Anyway I tried both and they  
 didn't
 work...


my bad. i once built xglamo with tslib support and it worked, but for  
several reasons i abandoned that month ago and use now fbdev+libgtkstylus.

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Simulating_right_click_with_stylus

 Is there a way to find out *why* it's not working? Atm I just try and  
 fail, this is not too productive... :D

what springs to mind are two things:
- lxde has problems itself or does not support right click (configuration  
issue?)
- you configuration for tslib or libgtkstylus is wrong or interfers with  
something

~/.xsession-errors and/or /var/log/Xorg.0.log may contain useful  
information.

now i have the fr handy, my working xorg.conf below (and, indeed, it is  
fbdev+tslib)

# Xorg confiugration for an Openmoko FreeRunner
Section InputDevice
 Identifier  Configured Touchscreen
 Driver  tslib
 Option  CorePointer   true
 Option  SendCoreEventstrue
 Option  TslibDevice   /dev/input/event1
 Option  Protocol  Auto
 Option  Width 480
 Option  Height640
 Option  EmulateRightButton1
EndSection

Section Device
 Identifier  Configured Video Device
 Driver  fbdev
EndSection

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Re: Karlsruhe OpenMoko User Meet == Munich Stammtisch

2009-02-10 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
The Munich Pub Meet has a different location:

http://www.die-wildsau.de (for the English speakers here: The Wild Sow)

Timing remains coincident with Karlsruhe: 11. Feb 19:00

Nikolaus

Am 08.02.2009 um 20:37 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:

 Openmoko Stammtisch Munich planned:

 Wednesday, 11. Feb 2009, 19:00 (great coincidence!)
 Location and details (in German): 
 http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=13t=660st=0sk=tsd=astart=15#p9318

 Nikolaus @ handheld-linux.com

 Am 05.02.2009 um 14:48 schrieb Juergen Schinker:

 Joachim Breitner wrote:
 [ Summary in english: OpenMoko users meet in Karlsruhe, Germany. ]

 Hallo allerseits,

 nach der Terminkoordination per doodle laden wir nun alle
 interessierten
 FreeRunner- oder Neo-Besitzer am
Mittwoch, 11.2.2009, um 19:00
 in die Räume des Entropia e.V. ein.

 Das Ganze wird, so wie es aussieht, ein formloses Treffen zum
 Ideen- und
 Erfahrungsaustausch sein. Wenn aber jemand Lust hat, ein bestimmtes
 Thema etwas intensiver vorzustellen, ist das natürlich sehr
 willkommen.
 Ich habe eine Wiki-Seite auf der Homepage des Entropia angelegt, wer
 derartige Vorschläge hat, kann sie dort gerne eintragen.
 https://entropia.de/wiki/OpenMoko_User_Meet

 Informationen zur Örtlichkeit findet Ihr auf
 https://entropia.de/wiki/Anfahrt

 Wer bei der Gelegenheit seinen PGP-Key signieren möchte, darf gern
 ein
 paar Fingerprints mitbringen.

 Bei Problemen, den Raum zu finden, könnt ihr mich unter 0176  
 40229212
 erreichen (wenn ich nicht gerade die SIM-Karte im FreeRunner und
 diesen
 in einem nicht funktionsfähigen Zustand habe).

 Bitte gebt das auch an andere OpenMoko-User in und um Karlsruhe
 weiter,
 falls diese nicht die Mailingliste lesen.

 Bis Mittwoch,
 Joachim

 hey moment mal, da ist ja zeitgleich ein Treffen in London

 sieht mir nach einem World-Moko-Day aus...

 Juergen

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Re: separate mailing lists for each GTA device?

2009-02-10 Thread arne anka
 What are your thoughts on it? or other possible solutions.

how big is the volume of really device specific issues?
i don't think it justifies a list of its own.

prepending subjects with [gta01] seems far more sensible -- and since the  
gta01 users are so few and have a great interest in finding the pearls in  
the heap of mails, who knows, maybe they do it thouroughly (and set an  
example for those not prefixing their subjects)? ;-)

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Samsung M7600

2009-02-10 Thread OpenMitko
Looks familiar, doesn't it?

http://dailymobile.se/2009/02/07/pictures-samsung-m7600-with-bang-olufsen-powered-audio/
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Re: yaouh! 0.3 is out

2009-02-10 Thread Helge Hafting

Risto H. Kurppa wrote:


I suppose you've installed pre-0.9.5 version first and maybe later
updated to 0.9.5 - your pre-0.9.5 version config files are still
around and both yaouh and tangogps use these files.

Now if someone installs 0.9.5 without previous installations - no
config files around unless you manually write them or manually change
the settings of every repository tangogps uses.

Fresh tangogps 0.9.5 install - no config files in ~/.tangogps -
yaouh doesn't find folders/repositories to update.
Save a config file in ~/.tangogps - both tangogps and yaouh will use this.

Write a config file from scratch - fail.
Someone sends you a sample config file - win :)

Got it ;)?


Well, I have:
$ ls -al .tangogps/
drwx--2 root root0 Jan  5 08:04 .
drwxr-xr-x   22 root root0 Feb 10 10:43 ..
-rw-r--r--1 root root1 Jan  5 08:04 geophoto.db
-rw-r--r--1 root root1 Dec 20 12:42 poi.db

Two single-byte files, both contains an S.



(I can't see why tangogps has it hard-coded..)

It isn't hardcoded and it cannot be. I have changed both
map storage and tracklog storage from the defaults, and this still works
even with 0.9.5.  So it is stored somewhere, or 0.9.5 wouldn't find it. 
Using find and grep I discovered that

tangogps keeps a stored configuration in:
./.gconf/apps/tangogps/%gconf.xml
So it is in a config file, not hardcoded. Perhaps 0.9.5 has a bug and 
cannot create this file when it doesn't already exist? Report that

to the author.

My copy of the file is attached, I hope it helps.

While waiting for a fix, consider hardcoding the path in your yaouh. It 
is python code, and can be edited in a text editor.


Helge Hafting




?xml version=1.0?
gconf
entry name=tracklog_on mtime=1234026689 type=bool value=false
/entry
entry name=repos mtime=1233786741 type=list ltype=string
li type=string
stringvalueOSM|http://tile.openstreetmap.org/%d/%d/%d.png|/media/card/kart|0/stringvalue
/li
li type=string
stringvalueTopo|maps-for-free|/home/root/Maps/maps4free|0/stringvalue
/li
li type=string
stringvalueAerial|openaerial|/home/root/Maps/openaerial|0/stringvalue
/li
/entry
entry name=track_dir mtime=1229727556 type=string
stringvalue/media/card/gpslog//stringvalue
/entry
entry name=ffcu_friends mtime=1234259650 type=bool value=false
/entry
entry name=ffcu_registered mtime=1234259650 type=bool value=false
/entry
entry name=ffcu_public mtime=1234259650 type=bool value=false
/entry
entry name=ffcm_friends mtime=1234259650 type=bool value=false
/entry
entry name=ffcm_registered mtime=1234259650 type=bool value=false
/entry
entry name=ffcm_public mtime=1234259650 type=bool value=false
/entry
entry name=fftimer_running mtime=1234259650 type=bool value=false
/entry
entry name=ffupdate_interval_minutes mtime=1234259650 type=float value=0
/entry
entry name=repo_name mtime=1234259650 type=string
stringvalueOSM/stringvalue
/entry
entry name=global_zoom mtime=1234265806 type=int value=15
/entry
entry name=global_y mtime=1234265806 type=int value=2267026
/entry
entry name=global_x mtime=1234265806 type=int value=4436197
/entry
entry name=auto_download mtime=1234259650 type=bool value=false
/entry
entry name=started_before mtime=1229727486 type=bool value=true
/entry
/gconf
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Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj

2009-02-10 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi,

 
 Hi Mirko,
 according to the Paroli web pages this is a good a place as any to
 discuss issues on Paroli. Perhaps it'd be better on Devel which doesn't
 see much action these days?

Either one works, if we get to technical devel is probably better.

 
 Anyhow thanks for your help I got Paroli launcher running with your help
 but I'm a bit surprised with the results. The only app available in the
 paroli-launcher is Tele, I'd expected it to pick up contacts and the
 other apps in paroli.

It is the only app that is somewhat stable for now. Msgs and Logs are in 
the making.

You can add contacts in Tele as well
see http://www.paroli-project.org/running-paroli/tele/

 
 As for Tele it does no start up the GSM modem at all, and register to
 the network, so I can't make a call with it. Is this a know issue? I'd
 like to help out by doing a bit of testing and giving some feedback.
 I've probably a lot of opinion but for a start I'd like to be able to
 make a phone call if I can't do that I'll have to reinstall zhone, but I
 was hoping to move on from that app.

see http://www.paroli-project.org/running-paroli/

and

http://www.paroli-project.org/running-paroli/parolicfg/

for details.

I think Charlie also answered to this mail with detailed explanation.

If the pages mentioned don't help, don't hesitate to ask, because that 
mean the pages are not detailed enough.

Any comment input is highly appreciated.

/mirko



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Re: [meta] Re: separate mailing lists for each GTA device?

2009-02-10 Thread Helge Hafting
Brock wrote:
 On 2009.02.10.11.26, Ben Wilson wrote:
 | What are your thoughts on it? or other possible solutions.
 
 Separate lists per-device (and per-distro) has been discussed and
 dismissed previously. The general consensus is to push for topic-aware
 subjects like [GTA01] or [debian].

I agree. There are so many things that are common to all devices.
All fixes, releases, updates and workarounds for software that makes 
generic use of gps, speaker and display - for example.

It'd be sad having to wade through both gta01 list, gta02 list and gta03 
list to find an obscure but nifty speedup trick for enlightenment, just 
because the hacker only subscribe to the list for his own phone.

A new list may be justified if they make a very different device, so 
that there is very little software overlap. Any linux phone with a
display will be able to use most of the same sw though - even if they
change processor architecture and the rest of the hardware. You just 
recompile the apps and they have the same issues still.

Helge Hafting

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Re: yaouh! 0.3 is out

2009-02-10 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Thanks for the file!

I was wrong about the file location, I meant  ./.gconf/apps/tangogps/%gconf.xml

I only had mapsOSM/maps there so it was hard-coded in tango. But
as I earlier said, I think that if you change/add something in the
tango repository configs it'll save it here. So I'd say the default
values are hard-coded.

But anyway, thanks for the file, I finally got yaouh up and running,
updating my 30 000 tiles :)

Every now and then I get wget: server returned error: HTTP/1.1 404
Not Found but mostly it looks like running nice.
I liked your 10x speedup hack but I'm still running the original
version (0.4 I think).

r


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Re: [FSO m5] Cannot register to network (KPN-NL SIM) but can make phonecalls.

2009-02-10 Thread Jan Lübbe
On Sun, 2009-02-08 at 12:18 +, Al Johnson wrote:
 On Saturday 07 February 2009, Bas wrote:
  Al Johnson wrote:
   The Dictionary looks like the content of a GSM network status update
   signal from the framework, and the values indicate it's registered to the
   home network for that SIM. I don't know why it thinks registration
   failed.
 
  Zhone seems to require the key provider (atleast so far I can see in
  the source). That key doesnt seems to be available with my setuo.
 
 'provider' is an optional value. Only 'registration', 'mode' and 'act' are 
 mandatory. That makes it a Zhone bug I guess.

 http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.html;hb=HEAD#GetStatus

I've created an FSO bug for this:
http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/355

Bas, could you also attach a framework/ogsmd DEBUG log to that bug? I'd
like to find out why the provider property is missing.

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Re: Samsung M7600

2009-02-10 Thread Helge Hafting
OpenMitko wrote:
 Looks familiar, doesn't it?
 
 http://dailymobile.se/2009/02/07/pictures-samsung-m7600-with-bang-olufsen-powered-audio/

Similiar, but longer  thinner. More like all other phones, except for 
the curved ends.

If I were to design something new, I'd go the other way instead. 
Stretch the neo sideways, get a 640x640 square screen.  Better for maps.
You can fit a more finger-friendly software qwerty keyboard, and still 
have room on the screen above.

And there'd be more room in the case - for a bigger battery, bigger 
speaker, extra microsd slot and a hole for the stylus. But it'd be too 
big for some people. :(

Helge Hafting

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Re: Samsung M7600

2009-02-10 Thread Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik
:2009-02-10T12:15:Helge Hafting:

 If I were to design something new, I'd go the other way instead. 
 Stretch the neo sideways, get a 640x640 square screen.  Better for maps.
 You can fit a more finger-friendly software qwerty keyboard, and still 
 have room on the screen above.
 
 And there'd be more room in the case - for a bigger battery, bigger 
 speaker, extra microsd slot and a hole for the stylus. But it'd be too 
 big for some people. :(
 

Drool... When can I get it ;) 

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Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-10 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Erland Lewin wrote:
 2009/1/31 Tschaka stuff4tsch...@gmx.net

  2) Calls

 My main problem with the FR at the moment is that the volume in the
 built-in earpiece, and wired headset as well are way too low. It works in a
 quiet indoor environment, but on a busy street I can hardly hear that
 someone is talking on the phone at all, and in a room with other people
 talking in the background, it is difficult to hear the person at the other
 end.

 Does anyone else have this problem? I'm surprised it isn't discussed more.

Volume is subjectively comparable to that on my SE K700i. Both have volume 
controls, and both manage a level I'm happy with, even before messing with 
CLVL.

 This prevents me from using the FR as a daily phone, because I need to be
 able to answer calls even when I'm out and about.

 My impression is that this is a hardware limitation, and that even with max
 volume from the GSM chip to the audio codec (CLVL=255), and maximum Alsa
 volumes, the volume won't be high enough from the earpiece.

Either we have a different expectation of required volume or your hardware is 
different from mine, assuming you adjusted the mixer settings correctly. 

 I think the
 only way around this is to use a Bluetooth headset, but I don't think the
 Bluetooth headset profile works in the version of the bluetooth stack
 (bluez-3) that's on the Freerunner now.

I'm sure Angus Ainslie reported he had it working some time ago with bluez-3. 
I thought it was just the A2DP part that may require bluez-4. I haven't got a 
bluetooth headset so I haven't tried either though.

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Re: Samsung M7600

2009-02-10 Thread William Kenworthy
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 12:15 +0100, Helge Hafting wrote:
 OpenMitko wrote:
  Looks familiar, doesn't it?
  
  http://dailymobile.se/2009/02/07/pictures-samsung-m7600-with-bang-olufsen-powered-audio/
 
 Similiar, but longer  thinner. More like all other phones, except for 
 the curved ends.
 
 If I were to design something new, I'd go the other way instead. 
 Stretch the neo sideways, get a 640x640 square screen.  Better for maps.
 You can fit a more finger-friendly software qwerty keyboard, and still 
 have room on the screen above.
 
 And there'd be more room in the case - for a bigger battery, bigger 
 speaker, extra microsd slot and a hole for the stylus. But it'd be too 
 big for some people. :(
 
 Helge Hafting
 
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I can see it now - hey, why are you holding that laptop on the side of
your head - is it nice and warm or something - quiet, I am on a phone
call ...

I do like the buttons and slide switches ... something (as well as a
real keyboard) I really miss  from my old treo650.

BillK




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Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-10 Thread Erland Lewin
2009/2/10 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk

 On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Erland Lewin wrote:
  2009/1/31 Tschaka stuff4tsch...@gmx.net
 
   2) Calls
 
  My main problem with the FR at the moment is that the volume in the
  built-in earpiece, and wired headset as well are way too low. It works in
 a
  quiet indoor environment, but on a busy street I can hardly hear that
  someone is talking on the phone at all, and in a room with other people
  talking in the background, it is difficult to hear the person at the
 other
  end.
 
  Does anyone else have this problem? I'm surprised it isn't discussed
 more.

 Volume is subjectively comparable to that on my SE K700i. Both have volume
 controls, and both manage a level I'm happy with, even before messing with
 CLVL.

  This prevents me from using the FR as a daily phone, because I need to be
  able to answer calls even when I'm out and about.
 
  My impression is that this is a hardware limitation, and that even with
 max
  volume from the GSM chip to the audio codec (CLVL=255), and maximum Alsa
  volumes, the volume won't be high enough from the earpiece.

 Either we have a different expectation of required volume or your hardware
 is
 different from mine, assuming you adjusted the mixer settings correctly.


 Ok, this is interesting.

What distro  kernel do you use, and could you post your gsmhandset.state
file?

I'd love to try whatever you're running.

/Erland
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New design (was Re: Samsung M7600)

2009-02-10 Thread Milos Mandaric
U Uto, 10. 02. 2009., u 12:15 +0100, Helge Hafting je napisao/la:
 
 If I were to design something new, I'd go the other way instead. 
 Stretch the neo sideways, get a 640x640 square screen.  Better for maps.
 You can fit a more finger-friendly software qwerty keyboard, and still 
 have room on the screen above.
 
 And there'd be more room in the case - for a bigger battery, bigger 
 speaker, extra microsd slot and a hole for the stylus. But it'd be too 
 big for some people. :(
 
 Helge Hafting

You mean something like this but without keyboard
http://androidmesh.com/devices/exceda-android-handheld-smartphone-comming-on-march-221
Yup, it would be too big and too ugly.


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Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj

2009-02-10 Thread Arigead
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Guillaume Chereau wrote:
 On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 08:08 +, Arigead wrote:
 As for Tele it does no start up the GSM modem at all, and register to
 the network, so I can't make a call with it. Is this a know issue? I'd
 like to help out by doing a bit of testing and giving some feedback.
 I've probably a lot of opinion but for a start I'd like to be able to
 make a phone call if I can't do that I'll have to reinstall zhone, but
 I
 was hoping to move on from that app.
 
 Hi John,
 
 They are two things you could look for :
 
 First, if you start paroli directy from its source directory, and you
 don't have it installed, it will read the local config file
 ./paroli.cfg, wich set GSM service to TEST, so that you will never get
 connected to the network. If you see this line the log :
 
  INFO set service GSM to Test
 
 Then it means you have to comment the line
 
  defaults = GSM:Test, SIM:Test, Audio:Test,
 
 in paroli.cfg
 
 Second thing is that even when you run paroli using the correct GSM
 service, you get no visual indication of the connection status. And it
 can be quite long before you get a network connection.
 
 Could you please repeat the operation and send the log (/tmp/paroli.log)
 to the mailing list ?
 
 Regards,
 
 Guillaume
 
 

Sorry Guillaume,
I seem to be going backwards here. I've gone through a fresh install
using the following steps from flashing a fresh rootfs into the FR

sudo dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D
openmoko-fso-illume-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2


now on the FR:

opkg update
opkg install python-ecore python-evas python-etk python-edje python-edbus

cd paroli/paroli-applications
sh build.sh

cd ../paroli-scripts/
DISPLAY=:0; python paroli-launcher


results in the following:

[Etk-Warning] (ecore_evas_x11.c:190 - _engine_init()):
Ecore_X initialization failed!

[Etk-Warning] (etk_engine.c:221 - etk_engine_load()):
Etk can not initialize the requested engine!

Segmentation fault

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Re: Karlsruhe OpenMoko User Meet

2009-02-10 Thread Marc Bantle
Christoph Pulster schrieb:
 I want to support the Openmoko user meeting in Karlruhe/Germany with  
 free pouches/headsets and other accesories for each user who is there.

   

Cool :-)

cu, Marc

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Re: [meta] Re: separate mailing lists for each GTA device?

2009-02-10 Thread Fernando Martins
Brock wrote:
 Separate lists per-device (and per-distro) has been discussed and
 dismissed previously. The general consensus is to push for topic-aware
 subjects like [GTA01] or [debian].

   
Those subject brackets are quite RSI unfriendly to me (I have a PT 
keyboard). I hope it's not a big problem if I use just gta02-

Fernando

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Re: [FSO m5] Cannot register to network (KPN-NL SIM) but can make phonecalls.

2009-02-10 Thread Bas
Jan Lübbe wrote:
 On Sun, 2009-02-08 at 12:18 +, Al Johnson wrote:
 On Saturday 07 February 2009, Bas wrote:
 Al Johnson wrote:
 The Dictionary looks like the content of a GSM network status update
 signal from the framework, and the values indicate it's registered to the
 home network for that SIM. I don't know why it thinks registration
 failed.
 Zhone seems to require the key provider (atleast so far I can see in
 the source). That key doesnt seems to be available with my setuo.
 'provider' is an optional value. Only 'registration', 'mode' and 'act' are 
 mandatory. That makes it a Zhone bug I guess.
 
 http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.html;hb=HEAD#GetStatus
 
 I've created an FSO bug for this:
 http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/355
 
 Bas, could you also attach a framework/ogsmd DEBUG log to that bug? I'd
 like to find out why the provider property is missing.
 

I tried registering for an account in the weekend, but i do not get a
token sent to complete the registration. So i cannot add an attachment
to the bug.

I'll attach it to this mail (retry, this time compressed).

Greetz,

Bas


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Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1

2009-02-10 Thread Marcel
Am Tuesday 10 February 2009 10:04:45 schrieb arne anka:
  tslib works with Xglamo only.
  with a regular installation you are using fb -- use libgtkstylus. i
  don't
  have the exact name handy right now, but the archives should turn up
  several hits.
 
  The wiki says it's the other way round. Anyway I tried both and they
  didn't
  work...

 my bad. i once built xglamo with tslib support and it worked, but for
 several reasons i abandoned that month ago and use now fbdev+libgtkstylus.

  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian#Simulating_right_click_with_stylus
 
  Is there a way to find out *why* it's not working? Atm I just try and
  fail, this is not too productive... :D

 what springs to mind are two things:
 - lxde has problems itself or does not support right click (configuration
 issue?)
 - you configuration for tslib or libgtkstylus is wrong or interfers with
 something

 ~/.xsession-errors and/or /var/log/Xorg.0.log may contain useful
 information.

 now i have the fr handy, my working xorg.conf below (and, indeed, it is
 fbdev+tslib)
[...]

Mine looks similar.
First you said ... and use now fbdev+libgtkstylus - in your last line 
it's fbdev+tslib again. So *what* are you using actually?
I have now removed the modified tslib version (-fso1) again because with it 
and libgtkstylus installed simultaneously, the backlight didn't come up 
anymore once clicking the screen. ATM, I have libgtkstylus installed and 
$GTK_MODULES gets set in ~/.xsession as said in the wiki.
No right click with this setup.
Switched over to tslib with patch (0.0.5-1+fso1), removed libgtkstylus, added 
option in xorg.conf, restarted x - still no right click.

Any suggestions?

--
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Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-10 Thread Simon Kagstrom
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:25:25 +
Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote:

  I think the
  only way around this is to use a Bluetooth headset, but I don't
  think the Bluetooth headset profile works in the version of the
  bluetooth stack (bluez-3) that's on the Freerunner now.
 
 I'm sure Angus Ainslie reported he had it working some time ago with
 bluez-3. I thought it was just the A2DP part that may require
 bluez-4.

It might be the other way around :-)

I have A2DP working with bluez-3, as described on the A2DP page on the
wiki. Probably it will work with bluez-4 as well, but I've so far not
had any luck with FSO (perhaps due to some package mixup). I really
wish bluetooth would be less hassle to setup - it's not exactly rocket
science after all.


I guess the headset profile should work fine as well, but I've not
tried that so far.

// Simon

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[SHR - latest unstable] endless ringing

2009-02-10 Thread Tony Berth
Dear List,

there are cases where someone calls me, I try to pick-up the call but the
button 'answer' doesn't react! As a result the phone keeps ringing for ever!

Even if I re-start the xserver the phone keeps ringing! Any idea why that
happen?

Thanks

Tony
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[SHR - Latest unstable] Alarm

2009-02-10 Thread Tony Berth
Dear List,

When the Alarm gets triggered appears a message only but no sound. Found
some 'answers' in the archives but none of them did work! Is something else
I'm missing?

Thanks

Tony
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Re: [SHR - Latest unstable] Alarm

2009-02-10 Thread rhn
 Wiadomość Oryginalna 
Od: Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com
Dear List,

When the Alarm gets triggered appears a message only but no sound.
Found some 'answers' in the archives but none of them did
work! Is something else I'm missing?

Thanks

Tony

I had this, too, but not on the very latest version.
The alarm tries to play the wav file at

/usr/share/elementary_alarm/sounds/phone.wav

I've made this directory and copied my file there.
You might also find a folder named (notice the hyphen):

/usr/share/elementary-alarm/

you could rename it to the version with underscore:

mv /usr/share/elementary-alarm/ /usr/share/elementary_alarm/

or make a symlink:

cd /usr/share; ln -s elementary-alarm elementary_alarm


Cheers
rhn

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Re: Samsung M7600

2009-02-10 Thread Carlo Minucci
OpenMitko ha scritto:
 Looks familiar, doesn't it?
 
 http://dailymobile.se/2009/02/07/pictures-samsung-m7600-with-bang-olufsen-powered-audio/


a PSP? :)

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Openmoko Autobuilder

2009-02-10 Thread Angus Ainslie
The Openmoko autobuilder is back online. It is generating 
images for gta01 and gta02 devices. 

THE GTA01 IMAGES HAVE NOT BEEN TESTED ON A DEVICE YET. If you're
brave and test these please post your results.

The build stats can be followed here 

http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/builders/openmoko/

It is currently generating 2 sets of images and feeds.

= unstable
This is based on the FSO milestone 5 branch at git.openembedded.org
This should be identical to FSO milestone 5 so if 
you've tried that there is nothing new here.
Any critical bug fixes checked into FSO milestone
5 will show up in these images and feeds.

http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/unstable/
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/

= experimental
These images and feeds are primarily for FSO, paroli and 
Openmoko developers. The images will not build sometimes.
Even if they do build they won't work as you expect them 
to. DON'T use experimental if you expect to use your
Openmoko device as a daily phone, gps or whatever.
This is based on the FSO milestone 5 branch at git.openembedded.org
Autorev is turned on for these images so any updates to 
the FSO milestone 5 branch will get generated.

http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/experimental/
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/experimental/

There are some packages that are failing consistently. I'm going 
to try and debug these and send some fixes upstream.

There are some legacy testing directories that contain Om2008.x 
images and feeds. These will be moved or removed soon.

For those interested in improving or commenting on the build
scripts used to generate the unstable and experimental images
they can be found here:

http://downloads.openmoko.org/build/

Angus Ainslie
Openmoko Distribution Maintainer




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Re: [SHR - latest unstable] endless ringing

2009-02-10 Thread bburdette
 there are cases where someone calls me, I try to pick-up the call but 
 the button 'answer' doesn't react! As a result the phone keeps ringing 
 for ever!
 
 Even if I re-start the xserver the phone keeps ringing! Any idea why 
 that happen?
 

I see this too.  Very annoying!  I was hoping it would be fixed in a 
newer version, I am still on the december SHR release.  I filed a bug 
for this:

http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/312

Ben


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Re: Samsung M7600

2009-02-10 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
 OpenMitko ha scritto:
 Looks familiar, doesn't it?

 http://dailymobile.se/2009/02/07/pictures-samsung-m7600-with-bang-olufsen-powered-audio/

GTA03 ???

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Re: yaouh! 0.4 is out - 10x speedup hack

2009-02-10 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/2/10 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no:
 Carlo Minucci wrote:

 download from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Yaouh!

 little bufgix and add support for multiple wget download
 i think now is more fast

 please, test and feedback

 Seems to work fine, but it looks like only the downloading happens in
 parallel. A common case seems to be only 5%-10% new tiles. The rest
 just need checking. This is done with sequential use of curl. I.e. no
 parallel checking, although this is a big part of a yaouh run.


 I am no expert in python threading, so I did a much simpler hack.
 I run 10 instances of yaouh. yaouh0.py only checks files matching
 *0.png, yaouh1.py only checks files matching *1.png, and so on.

 This gives a tremendous speedup because curl transfers very little data.
 Serialized curl spend most of the time waiting for an answer, while one
 request and a very small answer moves through the network to a distant
 server and back again. The bandwith of the connection is nowhere near fully
 utilized, not even when using usb networking.

this is a fine idea. it's somewhat clumsy invoking 10 scripts manually
- i'm sure it could be coded to do this automatically, but it's a
decent first step.

carlo, any chance of implementing this in a forthcoming release?

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Re: yaouh! 0.4 is out - 10x speedup hack

2009-02-10 Thread Carlo Minucci
Robin Paulson ha scritto:

 carlo, any chance of implementing this in a forthcoming release?

yes
i promise in the next release i insert this idea


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Re: [SHR - Latest unstable] Alarm

2009-02-10 Thread Tony Berth
On 2/10/09, rhn r...@o2.pl wrote:
  Wiadomość Oryginalna 
 Od: Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com
Dear List,

When the Alarm gets triggered appears a message only but no sound.
Found some 'answers' in the archives but none of them did
work! Is something else I'm missing?

Thanks

Tony

 I had this, too, but not on the very latest version.
 The alarm tries to play the wav file at

 /usr/share/elementary_alarm/sounds/phone.wav

 I've made this directory and copied my file there.
 You might also find a folder named (notice the hyphen):

 /usr/share/elementary-alarm/

 you could rename it to the version with underscore:

 mv /usr/share/elementary-alarm/ /usr/share/elementary_alarm/

 or make a symlink:

 cd /usr/share; ln -s elementary-alarm elementary_alarm


 Cheers
 rhn


I did rename that dir (elementary-alarm to elementary_alarm) but
didn't make the trick! Still no sound :(

Thanks

Tony

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Re: [SHR - latest unstable] endless ringing

2009-02-10 Thread Johny Tenfinger
Looks like FSO upstream issue, not SHR.

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Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-10 Thread Margo Koppelmann
On 1/31/09, Tschaka stuff4tsch...@gmx.net wrote:

 So, again somebody is asking a question about usabilty. Please don't get me
 wrong, i actually browsed the mailing lists and wikis, but still there are
 some unsure things, and i'd like to have a bit more of a summarization.

 I'm interested in buying an openmoko Neo Freerunner, but i'd like to get to
 know some things before i will. I'm a student, so 300 €(even 249 €, Pulster
 ;) ) is an amount of money i can't spend every month, or w/o any effort. So
 i don't want to end up getting a Neo now, being unsatisfied and getting a
 gta03/other brand later this or next year.

 I'm not that deep into Linux, but i'm running Ubuntu reasonably well, so i'm
 not totally unfamiliar with linux. i know what svn/git is, and wouldnt be
 totally unable to build somethings from sources - although it's not an every
 day task here.

 So, here's my list of questions, i hope somebody will answer and clear them
 up a bit :)


 1st) Battery Power

 sometimes i'm at university from 9am to 10pm 6 days a week. I'm often
 browsing mobile news pages with my phone when going to university, or having
 a chat (XMPP of course!), approx 40 minutes a day. In the meantime i'm
 listening to music.
 I got no actual watch, so my phone is my watch, means i often activate the
 background light to get to know the time.
 I'm sending like 1-5 messages a day, having a phone call now and then.
 Now and then i would like to access the web via wifi.

 So, since i'm not able to plug the phone to a power source at university,
 would i be able to run it the whole day, without getting out of battery
 power after 10 hours?
 And, will there be a (software) fix (soon) for the issue, that the battery
 gets uncharged, even if plugged in, as soon as the battery is fully charged?
 (i got no problem charging the phone every night, but when it's fully
 charged at 2am, it would have been running 7 hours on battery power by my
 arrival at university, so the battery would be low sooner)


 2) Calls

 As i'm sometimes having a phone call (huh, surprise), i would like to know,
 if the echo, and especially the buzzing issue will be fixed soon. I read,
 the echo was fixed in FSO/SHR already, but regarding the buzz i read the
 mailing list, but there i didnt feel i got a reliable answer(sorry for
 asking again). i'm not familiar with soldering iron, and i'm not willing to
 crack up another phone (already did once this way :) ). So, will there a fix
 of this buzzing soonish by default (a7, a8?) on the base of the often
 refered capacitor? (as i said, i'm not willing to pay twice, getting a gta03
 later due to unfixed buzz problems, or replacing a damaged freerunner).
 Also, i'm not willing to pay 300€ for a phone that doesnt allow me to have a
 nice talk with my dad or gf on an at least acceptable level for the person
 on the other end (u know, my gf isn't that patient and insightfull with
 opensource software(issues) as i am, it took me weeks and shutting down icq
 completely to convince her to use xmpp :) )


 3) Software

 I got no problem with rudimentary software. Most important thing is Sending
 messages, Having a few Calls, Having GPS apps to improve Openstreetmap and
 such and browsing the web. I know the software is something being worked on,
 and apparently it improved a lot already.
 But: Do such basic features work already (like browsing phone book to make a
 call) acceptably reliable? I'm patient in handling problems and fiddling
 around a bit, wanting to have a succes in the end though.
 And: how sluggish is the software? i often read glamo slows the phone down
 pretty much.


 4) GTA03?

 Or would u rather advise me to wait for GTA03? I really want to support
 Openmoko, and to be honest, as i heard first of openmoko like 2 years ago, i
 already wanted to have one. On the other hand, i'm sorry to say, that such
 fundamental bugs hold me back getting one yet. But according to the wiki,
 gta03 will have features like EDGE, a Cam, better battery and removed glamo
 (rather fast software feeling and video performance?) that sound very
 interesting.

 EGDE would be nice, but for me isn't necessary, and as Cam i could use my
 current phone.
 But shall i, at least, rather wait for a7, or a8 if i want a buzz fix by
 default? at the moment, this is, besides battery life, the issue that
 concerns me most.


 5) Summarize

 Long story short, i don't want to get disappointed buying a neo. I mean,
 fancy features, software and such is nice to have, but if fundamental things
 won't work (acceptable), I and many others won't support Openmoko on the
 long term, means replacing the Neo with a later release of Openmoko in 1,2
 or 3 years.

 and, as sean moss pultz wrote, John Doe won't see any advantage of getting
 an openmoko over other open (haha, at least on his point of view) phones
 like iPhone, and Android ones.
 Hopefully i'll get some constructive hints on my questions, and if i'd
 rather wait, or buy on the spur of 

Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-10 Thread Margo Koppelmann
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Margo Koppelmann
margo.koppelm...@gmail.com wrote:

 I left my Freerunner charging for the knight. In the morning the
 battery was 94% charged.
 8:00 - Battery is 94%. I start to listen to music (.ogg) with my FR.
 Screen is blanked during this.
 8:40 - I stop listening to music. Battery is 86%.
 17:00 - Battery is 68%. I start surfing the web using GPRS.
 17:17 - I stop surfing the web. Battery is 64%.
 18:35 - Battery is 54%. I start to listen to music (with blanked screen).
 19:12 - I stop listening to music. Battery is 46%.
 21:40 - Battery is 40%. I start surfing the web over wifi.

 During the day I've made a few phone calls, sent one sms, used the GPS
 with tangoGPS for about 10 minutes, played some games and checked
 regularly for the battery state.

 Right now I'm still using the wifi and I'm writing this mail on my FR.
 I'ts 22:51 and battery  is 12% charged.


Sorry, I forgot - I'm using OM2008.12

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Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

2009-02-10 Thread Tschaka

Huh, thanks for your effort! This sounds nice and would totally fit my
battery need for one day i guess. expecting some improvements later things
would be even better, but apparently it already is well enough for my needs
:)

One more question: i guess you put the phone in suspend mode during the
inactive time?
furthermore i read some issues on audio quality lately. is the quality of
audio playback acceptable with headset? 

Thanks for your help!


Marx wrote:
 
 On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Margo Koppelmann
 margo.koppelm...@gmail.com wrote:

 I left my Freerunner charging for the knight. In the morning the
 battery was 94% charged.
 8:00 - Battery is 94%. I start to listen to music (.ogg) with my FR.
 Screen is blanked during this.
 8:40 - I stop listening to music. Battery is 86%.
 17:00 - Battery is 68%. I start surfing the web using GPRS.
 17:17 - I stop surfing the web. Battery is 64%.
 18:35 - Battery is 54%. I start to listen to music (with blanked screen).
 19:12 - I stop listening to music. Battery is 46%.
 21:40 - Battery is 40%. I start surfing the web over wifi.

 During the day I've made a few phone calls, sent one sms, used the GPS
 with tangoGPS for about 10 minutes, played some games and checked
 regularly for the battery state.

 Right now I'm still using the wifi and I'm writing this mail on my FR.
 I'ts 22:51 and battery  is 12% charged.

 
 Sorry, I forgot - I'm using OM2008.12
 
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Re: liqbase on Freerunner?

2009-02-10 Thread Aapo Rantalainen
 http://liqbase.net/

All necessary libraries are in repositories or OpenEmbedded.
I got it compiled and running on Freerunner, but screen goes blank.

It uses the XV YUV overlay. Is this something that Freerunner can't handle?

I tested:
mplayer -vo help
Does not show xv. Is this sign that Freerunner do not have it, or only
that my mplayer is compiled without it?

 -Aapo Rantalainen

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Re: New leather case for Neo FreeRunner

2009-02-10 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
I finally achive to  low the shipping cost for few units, now a unit
of the leather case to all countries of UE are 8,55 Euros
Regards

2009/2/6 Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes gunnar.grim...@dfki.de:
 Looks great, but at 23 euro shipping to Germany it's a bit dear.

 How about Pulster.de buying a bunch of them for us? :)

 - Gunnar



 David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote:
 Dear all,
 I'm glad to announce you that we have ready a new leather case
 designed especially to the Neo FreeRunner, here are the main
 characteristics
 -High durable treated black leader (used for military complements)
 -Strong belt clip
 -Includes an emergency simply stytus in the top of the belt clip
 -Magnetic lock to easy open/close with one hand, strong enough to
 support heavy shake without open but to no disrturb any electromagenic
 signal
 -Holes to access buttons and in/outputs
 -And can be used to let the Neo stand up in landscape position in a
 desktop to use with a bt keyboard, to use a wired keyboard only have
 to turn the neo 180º to let the USB be in the top
 - and yes also fits in a Neo 1973 :P

 Price:39 Euros Tax included, shipping cost not included(people outside
 UE please contact me )

 You can  buy one here
 http://www.tuxbrain.net/shop/product_info.php?cPath=21products_id=42language=en

 a bigger picture is aviable here http://www.tuxbrain.com/omcase.html
 (I have to upload more pictures I will announce when they are ready)

 Special prices for distributors, please contact me



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Re: opkg-deb

2009-02-10 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Wed, Feb 04, 2009 at 09:48:42AM +0100, kimaidou wrote:
 Hi all
 I think this idea is great. I am using SHR from the start, and now I
 installed Hackable 1 on my SDcard (I need a PIM solution). So I miss the
 goodies in www.opkg.org.

   I've installed both usbmode and linball[1] on Debian from the .ipk package.
You need to pass --force-architecture and perhaps --force-depends to dpkg.
It will probably work fine for many packages.

[1] Hangs on exit without -n to turn off sound (which doesn't work anyway).

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Re: [Om2008.x] UMTS based on USB adapter

2009-02-10 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 03:41:47PM +, Al Johnson wrote:
 On Tuesday 03 February 2009, Matthias Apitz wrote:
  is there any way to use something like an USB-splitter to connect the
  USB of the FR to the modem and at the same time to a laptop?
 
 I don't think that'll be possible. You need the FR to be a USB host to 
 connect 
 to the modem, but a USB client to connect to the laptop. It is switchable 
 between the two modes, but can't be both at the same time.

   A workaround would be to connect the Neo and the laptop over 802.11
(WLAN) or Bluetooth.

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Euphony Beta 1 release

2009-02-10 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
Hey guys,

some might have seen and remember epiano, the little demo app I wrote
a while ago to have a nice touchscreen-piano for the Neo.
Since then, I have been busy writing a successor that enhances the
concept quite a bit.
Some might already have seen or tested it, it's called Euphony.

So - where's the difference?
Epiano was really only a piano, start it and the white and black keys
were there.
Euphony is now a framework, or better loader for instruments. So you
can use not only the piano, but every instrument you can imagine (if
you or someone else creates it).

Here's what it looks like in action:
http://videos.gstaedtner.net/euphony/euphony_beta1.ogv

The bitbake reciepe is in OpenEmbedded, so you can just build it.
Otherwise you can get armv4 ipks from my site (link follows).
After installing there won't be any instrument, you first have to
download one (the 3 demo instruments from the video are available on
my site) and put it into ~/.euphony/instruments/ .

So if you like, try it, and feel free to give me feedback, patches,
suggestions, ..., either as reply to this post on the list, via
private mail, or via IRC (you can find me in #neo1973-germany on
irc.freenode.org).
If you want to create new instruments, check out the small howto on my
site and try it, it's really easy if you know edje a little. I'll be
happy to host them, too.

So, here's my site for more information, instruments and so on:
http://tg.gstaedtner.net/projects/euphony.html
If you are interested in the sourcecode, you can get it via the
release tarballs, or better directly via
git://gstaedtner.net/euphony.git

Please don't be disappointed by the performance - the audio-backend I
use is fluidsynth which is floating point driven and therefore not
really Neo-optimized.
So you have to play a little slower and use not so complex soundfonts
to keep it usable. Unfortunately it's too much work (for me) to change
that, so it will only be real fun on faster devices with FPU, like the
(hopefully coming soon) GTA03 or similar.
If you have any ideas for performance improvement, or you can provide
a software synthesizer that uses fixed point, don't hesitate to tell
me! :)

Last but not least: Thanks to all people who supported me, especially
to pfritz and the other guys in #e.de for EFL knowledge and help with
C, the people of the pyneo.org project, and of course the developers
of the great enlightenment foundation libraries and fluidsynth.

Have fun,

thomasg

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Re: Openmoko Autobuilder

2009-02-10 Thread Rod Whitby
Angus Ainslie wrote:
 The Openmoko autobuilder is back online. It is generating 
 images for gta01 and gta02 devices. 
...
 For those interested in improving or commenting on the build
 scripts used to generate the unstable and experimental images
 they can be found here:
 
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/build/

Thanks Angus - this is a huge leap forward for Openmoko with regards to
autobuilder configuration transparency and management.

Well done!

I'll update MokoMakefile to match your build description.

-- Rod

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Re: [SHR - latest unstable] endless ringing

2009-02-10 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:16:43 +0100, Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com
wrote:
 Dear List,
 
 there are cases where someone calls me, I try to pick-up the call but the
 button 'answer' doesn't react! As a result the phone keeps ringing for
 ever!
 
 Even if I re-start the xserver the phone keeps ringing! Any idea why that
 happen?
 
 Thanks
 
 Tony

The changelog for FSO milestone5 includes:

Fixed a major bug in the RingToneAction. This (and removing a race in the
RingToneAction) fixes problems with neverending vibration and audio
ringtone on short calls. 

Ergo, the problem appears to be fixed upstream and should arrive in SHR
when frameworkd there is updated to match M5 FSO.

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Re: [FSO M5] Paroli-Apps crash with 'Screen' object has no attribute 'etk_obj

2009-02-10 Thread Guillaume Chereau
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 14:39 +, Arigead wrote:
 cd ../paroli-scripts/
 DISPLAY=:0; python paroli-launcher
 
 
 results in the following:
 
 [Etk-Warning] (ecore_evas_x11.c:190 - _engine_init()):
 Ecore_X initialization failed!
 
 [Etk-Warning] (etk_engine.c:221 - etk_engine_load()):
 Etk can not initialize the requested engine!
 
 Segmentation fault
I don't know what the problem is. It is the error you get when you don't
set DISPLAY=:0 (by the way very annoying to have a seg fault in that
case) but since you took care of setting DISPLAY then I don't know.

Can you run this simple test : 

 DISPLAY=:0; python -c 'import etk'

And see if you get the same error.

/Guillaume


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Re: yaouh! 0.4 is out

2009-02-10 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
I tried this on my desktop Ubuntu (more online time, faster computer 
network etc..): I copied the yaouh.py to the desktop computer and run
it:
The GUI starts OK (without pictures) and I see all the repos in the list.

r...@rubert:~/freerunner$ ./yaouh.py
(process:8583): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
Using the fallback 'C' locale.
Unhandled exception in thread started by
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File ./yaouh.py, line 163, in up_progressbar
md5=md5sum.read()
IOError: [Errno 4] Interrupted system call

On another try I got:
r...@rubert:~/.gconf/apps/tangogps$ /home/rhk/freerunner/yaouh.py

(process:8950): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
Using the fallback 'C' locale.
Unhandled exception in thread started by
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /home/rhk/freerunner/yaouh.py, line 158, in up_progressbar
etag=curl.read()
IOError: [Errno 4] Interrupted system call

On the third trial I was able to update my two openstreetmap/cycle map images :)

And then in the end I got it started updating the 74000 OSM tiles. To
me it looks that there's something unstable - it updated four tiles
and then stopped. On the next trial it didn't get that far but stopped
in the 'loading' stage.

Any tips what to change?


r


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