Re: Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK Build Instructions
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Filip Onkelinx fi...@linux4.be wrote: Hi, I'm using my own QtExtended image, based on : QtExtended 4.4.3 snapshot (13 Feb 2009 version) Kernel 2.6.28 Based on Hackable1 (debian based rootfs, giving me easy access to all commandline tools. It is also possible to 'switch' between Qt X. running from µ-SD Very good news, I hope this means that you will make available images for an SD card; Thanking you, clare ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need help flashing my freerunner for the first time
Re: Need help flashing my freerunner for the first time Congratulations - it wont be your last :) On my machine dfu-util is quite picky about when to work, my workflow is like this: Start freerunner in flashing mode, watch /var/log/messages till USB device is there... run: sudo dfu-util -a kernel -R -D file (or whatever) over and over again, until it reports an error device lost after reset (or something like this) run: sudo dfu-util -l over and over again, until it lists several lines of devices. then run the first line again and it THEN it works. Flashing the rootfs will occasionally fail, just do it again. When I say over and over again it is often 20-30 times :) This may seem akward, but you get used to it :) Cheers, - Gunnar Adam Jimerson wrote: On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Shawn Trash Thompson mokowa...@projektenterprises.com mailto:mokowa...@projektenterprises.com wrote: Adam Jimerson wrote: On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Shawn Trash Thompson mokowa...@projektenterprises.com mailto:mokowa...@projektenterprises.com mailto:mokowa...@projektenterprises.com mailto:mokowa...@projektenterprises.com wrote: Adam Jimerson wrote: I just got my freerunner today and when I have been trying to flash it with OM 2008.12 now that it is charged (comparing my Home and the images on the wiki I don't even think it came with 2007 installed), according to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing I should not set up a usb0 connection but dfu-util doesn't seem to be working with it. The dfu-util -l only sees it half the time and when I try to backup the Kernel with dfu-util -a kernel -R -U good-kernel.img the freerunner just times out. The host that I am using is openSUSE 11.1. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Adam, Are you using the super-user account? -Shawn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Yes I am using the super-user account ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community hopefully someone else will have more info then, other than not using root priv or equivalent I'm out of ideas, all I've seen issues with is having multiple DFU capable devices but that doesn't sound like the problem either. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Apon further investigation I seems like I have 2008.xx installed my screen looks like this http://openmoko.com/download.html, but the settings app does not load, the loading screen comes up but nothing lanches so I can't configure it to my wifi and I can't seem to find terminal if it is installed by default. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenCellID (was OpenBmap logger (GSM positioning)])
2009/2/20 Nick realtimeb...@gmail.com Thomas, After trying to reach you a few times last year, i am really glad to have some news from you now. The easiest way is to use the email mentionned in the Web page! ;-) I am reponsible for the openBmap website. And yes, it would be a great thing to merge our projects ! The number of logs you have is very impressive ! well done ! My concern would be about the quality of your data . you still mention on the front page Note:If you want a professional CellID Database, I suggest you to go to Navizon who provides top services and databases. what do you mean ? Tihs mean that there are company that have created huge databases of high quality by spendig a lot of money on it, and they make money by selling these data. Navizon pays his users for this, and other are throwing a lot of money on this too, by sending people doing measures, or by buying operators database. That's exactly the same difference between OpenStreetMap and Navteq/Teleatlas. OpenStreetMap is free, provided by the community, but of a lower quality than their commercial counterpart except on some specific area not covered by these equivalents. Of course, the objective is to reach the same quality, but this will take time. and after importing 800 000 of your gps points in january, I see that for instance gps speed, gps hdop, gps pdop, gps vdop are not available (at least at the begining of this huge measures.txt file !), A bad pdop, vdop, hdop and i am positioned at 1 km from my real position ... What if i am in a high speed train at 300 km/h? or in plane ? (yes, it can work in planes...) Let's go back to the basics: the objective of these database if to provied an positionning to create services using localisation on top of this database. Let's take the sample of an high speed train: there is high chances that all the sample will came from people in the train itself, and not from the neighbour outside (train don't go at 300 km/h in high density area). So this mean that the REAL position of the cell will never be accuratly computed, which is not an issue, because the only interesting information is the user position. So sampling mesures even some errors is fine as long as it works fine to get user position. So the philosophy behing opencellid was to reach the 80/20 ratio: acheiving the 80% of functionality will require only 20% of the time needed to do these 100% functionality. So that's why we have a simple and elegant API, that is used by different devices with different capacities, while acheiving exactly this objective: providing an accurate cell id positionning. In my opinion, considering the following services *** asisted gps *** cell id to google my position kind of service *** cell id to town name service the real questions are: what precision do we need for openmoko location service through gsm cell id ? what precision our possibly merged database would provide ? Assisted GPS does not require huge precision. I am not an expert, but I would be curious to know what is the precision needed to get an assisted GPS. Using triangulation is a different story, and this obvisouly will work fine only in high density area, where you also have high density cells. So again, there is a direct correlation between the precision and the density of the area. Note also that OpenCellID use LAC (Local Area Code) to provide an alternate positioning with a lower precision if a cell is not know, but if the LAC is know. Typically other cells has been discovered in the same area. So once you get CellID positionning, you can use reverse geocoding service to get the town for instance. what do you think about the above considerations ? really glad to hear from you ! regards, Nick Thomas Landspurg a écrit : 2009/2/20 Onen onen.om http://onen.om@free.fr http://free.fr Hi Thomas, Thomas Landspurg wrote: Dear OpenMoko community (and thanks ed for pointing this out). I am behind the opencellid.org http://opencellid.org http://opencellid.org project, and it seems that there are some discussion around it these day on the mailing list. Last month, and today, indeed. Yes, I've get to it today! It's a pity not to have been notified of such discussion before. I've been through them, and I want to add some clarification about difference between database: - OpenCellID can also store signal strengh. But one of the issue, is heterogenity between datas. Some client don't have this information, and this create some additional complexity. That's why this information is for now only stored but not yet used. And in all was, if you want it, it's in the measure table, and not in the cell table. - About the barycenter of the area/instead of barycenter: it's not always the best way to do it, as it give more value to false datas. while the
Re: OpenCellID (was OpenBmap logger (GSM positioning)])
2009/2/20 Onen onen...@free.fr see comments inline... Thomas Landspurg wrote: - OpenCellID can also store signal strengh. But one of the issue, is heterogenity between datas. Some client don't have this information, and this create some additional complexity. That's why this information is for now only stored but not yet used. And in all was, if you want it, it's in the measure table, and not in the cell table. We thought about this. We also store the phone model, in order to possibly be able to use some data of known good phones, or simply the data of the same model as yours, etc... You can, but then, what about other project tht does not store these datas? How to merge other atabases? So storing everything is fine as long as ALL the data comes with the same precision or level of information, which is not the case today. Good to see there is no client for openmoko, otherwise I may have worked for nothing ;-) Yes, I've heard that other where working on such client too! Are the people behind CellHunter following this thread? Please jump in if so. We are already discussing to reintegrate their data in OpenCellID! :-) As there are also plans on embedding the database on the phone, and using it to locate, I would like to know if this part would interest you? Or only the server side and upload? The idea is to provide all the means to do so. So if there is anything that is needed to help you to do this, I would be happy to provide it. For instance, a way to send an area and get the list of cells in that area. I amalready working on such functionality. Great! But the switch to from OpenBMap to OpenCellID should be quite fast as I assume that the API is probably the same, or very close to. ( http://www.opencellid.org/api ) For my part, the logging client, it can be easily adapted to feed other databases. For the location part, Nick knows this better than me. Onen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Thomas LANDSPURG 8Motions Founder/CTO http://www.8motions.com http://www.opencellid.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Request to provide input on Sahana mobile application on Openmoko
Hi All, A gentle reminder and request to everyone subscribed on the list to provide input through the survey I have created for the Sahana mobile project I am working on right now. So far, I have received only 6-10 responses from actual domain experts and Sahana developers. Since I am basing my developing on the Openmoko platform, I expect to understand more about the system, and so far only a few less than 5-10 people from the Openmoko community have responded. I am sure there are more available on the list, so I'd request you to fill up the survey. Besides, it just takes 5-10 minutes of your time to fill it up :) The link to the survey is: http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pWeVl6IM9h6UKAGOx231pFA Your guidance and input will help me have a greater understanding of the domain and its utility. Thanks Regards, Ajay Kumar http://ajuonline.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM] Less power consumption
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@openmoko.org writes: FYI: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/StandbyLifetime Was that with or without GSM deep sleep? Without deep sleep and automatic calls every two hours the battery does not last that long: Sat Feb 21 02:01:01 EET 2009 65 % Sat Feb 21 04:01:06 EET 2009 58 % Sat Feb 21 06:01:00 EET 2009 52 % Sat Feb 21 08:01:04 EET 2009 45 % Sat Feb 21 10:01:00 EET 2009 38 % Sat Feb 21 12:01:15 EET 2009 32 % ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help
Hi ! I totally agree with you, i will implement this for the 0.2 version For the mono thing, I would like it but I don't know yet how to do it. This is why when you open a wav recorded file with audacity, you can see the 2 left and right side, but only the right has data... This is not good. So if someone knwos the parameter to put in arecord to record only one mono sound, this would help ! 2009/2/21 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:07:40PM +0100, kimaidou wrote: arecord -D hw -f cd -v -t wav ~/rec-$(date +%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M).wav I think 44100 Hz is overkill for something like this. 8 kHz ought to be enough and would save a lot of disk space. I would have also suggested a mono recording, but I'm not sure that is supported. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need help flashing my freerunner for the first time
Adam Jimerson wrote: I just got my freerunner today and when I have been trying to flash it with OM 2008.12 now that it is charged (comparing my Home and the images on the wiki I don't even think it came with 2007 installed), according to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing I should not set up a usb0 connection but dfu-util doesn't seem to be working with it. The dfu-util -l only sees it half the time and when I try to backup the Kernel with dfu-util -a kernel -R -U good-kernel.img the freerunner just times out. The host that I am using is openSUSE 11.1. Intermittent errors typically point out to hardware problems. I guess you are using a new USB cable from the OM package, so try connecting it to a different USB port / computer. Anyway I also had some unreliability issues with the USB connection, including device not found and flashes with errors. One aspect is that the order of connecting seems important: that is, connect one end of the cable, switch on OM to boot from NOR flash, connect the other end of the cable. Do not reboot with the cable linked: it has always locked with me. Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM] Less power consumption
Am Saturday 21 February 2009 11:33:15 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors: Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@openmoko.org writes: FYI: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/StandbyLifetime Was that with or without GSM deep sleep? Without deep sleep, since I'm suffering massively under #1024 (I'm the original poster of this bug). -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM] Less power consumption
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@openmoko.org writes: | FYI: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/StandbyLifetime | | Was that with or without GSM deep sleep? Without deep sleep and | automatic calls every two hours the battery does not last that long: | | Sat Feb 21 02:01:01 EET 2009 65 % | Sat Feb 21 04:01:06 EET 2009 58 % | Sat Feb 21 06:01:00 EET 2009 52 % | Sat Feb 21 08:01:04 EET 2009 45 % | Sat Feb 21 10:01:00 EET 2009 38 % | Sat Feb 21 12:01:15 EET 2009 32 % What kernel is this? I know you usually run something near HEAD? What is the status of WLAN, BT and GPS in each case? - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmf6rgACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpsGACdFtplvKARavOJw3//YNsLO9a/ rQIAn0EcLxg2FTyFKhKU26b7DwXeZnBZ =L94a -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Qi) Qi or bust?
qi: qi-s3c2442-... kernel: uImage-2.6.28... image:fso-paroli-image-om-gta02.jffs2 Boot into NOR and connect USB. Then run these commands: Sander was so kind to provide this information, and at first it looked that this was actually working. I put qi and the android-files on the FR. After booting I saw a few messages from Android that something was not right. I thought that was because the SD-card is not set up the way it should be, so I then flashed: qi-s3c2442-master-hist_1665e43677c005a8.udfu uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin (as uImage.bin) shr-lite-image-om-gta02.jffs2 Now, after a hard reboot (battery removed), I see: RCU detected CPU 0 stall then a lot of errors, ending with an ECC error A kernel panic that tries to kill init and then it keeps telling me about CPU 0 stall, until I take out the battery again. Have I now terminally murdered my FreeRunner? -- Boy, if Bill Gates had a nickle for every time Windows crashed Oh, wait, he does! http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2009 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM] Less power consumption
Andy Green a...@openmoko.com writes: What kernel is this? I know you usually run something near HEAD? andy-tracking b8b36e5ec3db71d5 What is the status of WLAN, BT and GPS in each case? At least according to my debug output they should all be off. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: yaml rule to stop suspending when using gps
Now you can enable and disable auto-suspending and auto-dimming in shr-settings (under Power settings there are two toggles). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: yaml rule to stop suspending when using gps
On Saturday 21 February 2009, Johny Tenfinger wrote: Now you can enable and disable auto-suspending and auto-dimming in shr-settings (under Power settings there are two toggles). That's the answer to a different question though. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need help flashing my freerunner for the first time
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 5:48 AM, Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nlwrote: Adam Jimerson wrote: I just got my freerunner today and when I have been trying to flash it with OM 2008.12 now that it is charged (comparing my Home and the images on the wiki I don't even think it came with 2007 installed), according to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing I should not set up a usb0 connection but dfu-util doesn't seem to be working with it. The dfu-util -l only sees it half the time and when I try to backup the Kernel with dfu-util -a kernel -R -U good-kernel.img the freerunner just times out. The host that I am using is openSUSE 11.1. Intermittent errors typically point out to hardware problems. I guess you are using a new USB cable from the OM package, so try connecting it to a different USB port / computer. Anyway I also had some unreliability issues with the USB connection, including device not found and flashes with errors. One aspect is that the order of connecting seems important: that is, connect one end of the cable, switch on OM to boot from NOR flash, connect the other end of the cable. Do not reboot with the cable linked: it has always locked with me. Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community My big problem is that the freerunner stays active for 30 seconds, but dfu-util takes 3 minutes before it even tries to connect, by this time it just spits out an error about how it can't find the device. I am using the USB cable that came in the OM package, I can deffinitly try a different USB port, good thing my computer has a lot of those it seems. As for the setting menu not working on my phone does this work in 2008.12? This now my biggest reason for wanting to flash it, without access to settings there is not much I can do to it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: yaml rule to stop suspending when using gps
Tkx, but what I was hoping for was a way to say If tangogps is running, dont turn screen off or suspend, even if on battery If I am using gps, there are two scenarios - I am using it to navigate hence I am looking at the screen, or I am waiting for a lock. Having it continually dimming or suspending might be desirable to save battery life, but its REALLY annoying when on the bike :) It would be much nicer if the FR could put itself into the correct configuration automaticly, not for me to open the settings, then open power, then change the settings, only to go through the whole rigmorole again when Ive finished with gps If yaml wont do it, might have to resort to perl and dbus BillK On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 13:16 +0100, Johny Tenfinger wrote: Now you can enable and disable auto-suspending and auto-dimming in shr-settings (under Power settings there are two toggles). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: yaml rule to stop suspending when using gps
So simply use script wrapper to tangoGPS: #!/bin/sh mdbus -s org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage /org/shr/ophonekitd/Usage org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage.RequestResource 'CPU' mdbus -s org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage /org/shr/ophonekitd/Usage org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage.RequestResource 'Display' /usr/bin/tangogps mdbus -s org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage /org/shr/ophonekitd/Usage org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage.ReleaseResource 'CPU' mdbus -s org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage /org/shr/ophonekitd/Usage org.shr.ophonekitd.Usage.ReleaseResource 'Display' I believe using dbus-send would be faster, if you think mdbus is too slow, please look at it. You also can try to run all of mdbus calls in background by adding on end of each line. dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: yaml rule to stop suspending when using gps
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 13:36, Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: So simply use script wrapper to tangoGPS: Eh, line wrapping... Without #!/bin/sh there are only five lines. I hope you will read it correctly ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: yaml rule to stop suspending when using gps
Thanks for the dbus lines - saved me some research to find them! does the mdbus calls work for you with a recent frameworkd (ie ms5)? every attempt to do something like this dies on my debian/fso with an auth error -- be i root or not. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM] Less power consumption
I think you will get 3 hours with the FR and gps - I had it on full brightness (no suspend and screen on) for about 3 hours - then events/0 runaway killed it :( Thats with 2008.12, maybe FSO/SHR will be even better? BillK On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 12:41 +0100, David Garabana Barro wrote: On Friday 20 February 2009 10:36:18 Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes wrote: What the top poster is asking is when do I get 3 days of GPS tracking - and I guess the answer is never? Don't know if the GPS chip in FR is specially power-hungry, but for example my Tomtom ONE battery lasts only 2-3 hours. As said bellow, I think you should use external power for GPS... What I was trying to say is that only 3 months ago, my battery life was 24 h even suspended all the time. Being ~50% after 40 hours is a HUGE improvement :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Debian] No wlan device with 2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26
Hello, I installed kernel 2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26 (.28 kernel from Debian repo) yesterday. Today, wanting to use the neo as a webradio receiver connected to the stereo, I noticed that eth0, the wlan device, is gone. (No it doesn't have another name, ifconfig -a only shows up usb0 and lo.) Trying to check lspci, I got this: d-a318:~# lspci pcilib: Cannot open /proc/bus/pci lspci: Cannot find any working access method. Eeeh. Wtfomgbbq? :) I have no idea where to check next, there seems to be really wrong with /proc/bus/pci (which comes from where?). Any hints? -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM] Less power consumption
Andy Green a...@openmoko.com writes: | Sat Feb 21 02:01:01 EET 2009 65 % | Sat Feb 21 04:01:06 EET 2009 58 % | Sat Feb 21 06:01:00 EET 2009 52 % | Sat Feb 21 08:01:04 EET 2009 45 % | Sat Feb 21 10:01:00 EET 2009 38 % | Sat Feb 21 12:01:15 EET 2009 32 % What kernel is this? I know you usually run something near HEAD? Also please note that after each test call the phone opens a gprs connection and sends a short status report to nagios monitoring system which can then alert me if the phone is not responding to calls. This GPRS connection lasts around 1-3 minutes and probably contributes to the energy consumption. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
www.opkg.org ‒ source code released!
Dear Community, For nearly two month there was no update from www.opkg.org. The reason for it is pretty simple: I had no time to develop anything for the website. At the moment there's a whole lot going on around here. However, I'm really pleased, that there are already 100+ packages in the database. Thanks to everyone who made this possible. But there are still some features needed, like a better comment system with email notifications, for example. So it wondered what I could do to solve this problem. Finding a solution then was pretty simple: There are lots of great web developers out there, people who know a whole lot more than I do. So I decided to publish the opkg.org source code. This way _anyone_ can help developing new features for www.opkg.org. I'm sure there are some great developers with great ideas out there. If you want to help developing www.opkg.org, head over to http://www.opkg.org/developer.html and get the latest snapshot. If there are questions, please feel free to contact me. I hope that this will help making www.opkg.org even better than it is today ;)! -- Best regards, Tobias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] No wlan device with 2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26
Marcel tan...@googlemail.com writes: I installed kernel 2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26 (.28 kernel from Debian repo) yesterday. Today, wanting to use the neo as a webradio receiver connected to the stereo, I noticed that eth0, the wlan device, is gone. (No it doesn't have another name, ifconfig -a only shows up usb0 and lo.) Can you try echo 1 | sudo tee $sys_pm_wlan/power_on echo s3c2440-sdi | sudo tee $sys_wlan_driver/unbind 2 /dev/null /dev/null echo s3c2440-sdi | sudo tee $sys_wlan_driver/bind where the variables are $ grep wlan .sysfsrc export sys_pm_wlan=/sys/bus/platform/drivers/gta02-pm-wlan/gta02-pm-wlan.0 export sys_wlan_driver=/sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c2440-sdi ? I have no idea where to check next, there seems to be really wrong with /proc/bus/pci (which comes from where?). There's no PCI in freerunner. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] No wlan device with 2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26
Am Saturday 21 February 2009 14:23:46 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors: Marcel tan...@googlemail.com writes: I installed kernel 2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26 (.28 kernel from Debian repo) yesterday. Today, wanting to use the neo as a webradio receiver connected to the stereo, I noticed that eth0, the wlan device, is gone. (No it doesn't have another name, ifconfig -a only shows up usb0 and lo.) Can you try echo 1 | sudo tee $sys_pm_wlan/power_on echo s3c2440-sdi | sudo tee $sys_wlan_driver/unbind 2 /dev/null /dev/null echo s3c2440-sdi | sudo tee $sys_wlan_driver/bind where the variables are $ grep wlan .sysfsrc export sys_pm_wlan=/sys/bus/platform/drivers/gta02-pm-wlan/gta02-pm-wlan.0 export sys_wlan_driver=/sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c2440-sdi ? Argh. A week or so I always wondered why the wlan chip gets turned on automatically after each suspend. Now it does not anymore. Result: Wlan chip is turned off, therefore no wlan device. Dammit. Timo, you saved me once again, thanks! :) I have no idea where to check next, there seems to be really wrong with /proc/bus/pci (which comes from where?). There's no PCI in freerunner. That explains the issue... :) -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] No wlan device with 2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26
I installed kernel 2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26 (.28 kernel from Debian repo) how did you get it? apt-get dist-upgrade does not list another kernel (but 2.6.24). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenCellID (was OpenBmap logger (GSM positioning)])
Thomas, I agree with you about the train and people in the train. what about bad gps hdop,... ? I agree your approach will be probably enought for assited GPS. (anyone knows the precision needed ?) but I don't think this is the right one for the other services mentionned. Thinking of a high quality my position service (google kind), we will not achieve it not treating gps hdop, gps speed... so to be constructive in order to merge our databases, would you be ready to collect gps speed, gps (hvp)dop and make these info available in your (very large) measures file ? From this, I could provide you with a new mapping manager that identify the cells position calculated with gps (hvp)dop, gps speed when these values are available the cells position calculated with no gps (hvp)dop, gps speed because these values are not available We would have only one database with both quantity (the whole database) and quality for some cells. (Hoping that the best quality, would be available for all the cells in the future) what do you think about it ? regards, Nick Thomas Landspurg a écrit : 2009/2/20 Nick realtimeb...@gmail.com mailto:realtimeb...@gmail.com Thomas, After trying to reach you a few times last year, i am really glad to have some news from you now. The easiest way is to use the email mentionned in the Web page! ;-) I am reponsible for the openBmap website. And yes, it would be a great thing to merge our projects ! The number of logs you have is very impressive ! well done ! My concern would be about the quality of your data . you still mention on the front page Note:If you want a professional CellID Database, I suggest you to go to Navizon who provides top services and databases. what do you mean ? Tihs mean that there are company that have created huge databases of high quality by spendig a lot of money on it, and they make money by selling these data. Navizon pays his users for this, and other are throwing a lot of money on this too, by sending people doing measures, or by buying operators database. That's exactly the same difference between OpenStreetMap and Navteq/Teleatlas. OpenStreetMap is free, provided by the community, but of a lower quality than their commercial counterpart except on some specific area not covered by these equivalents. Of course, the objective is to reach the same quality, but this will take time. and after importing 800 000 of your gps points in january, I see that for instance gps speed, gps hdop, gps pdop, gps vdop are not available (at least at the begining of this huge measures.txt file !), A bad pdop, vdop, hdop and i am positioned at 1 km from my real position ... What if i am in a high speed train at 300 km/h? or in plane ? (yes, it can work in planes...) Let's go back to the basics: the objective of these database if to provied an positionning to create services using localisation on top of this database. Let's take the sample of an high speed train: there is high chances that all the sample will came from people in the train itself, and not from the neighbour outside (train don't go at 300 km/h in high density area). So this mean that the REAL position of the cell will never be accuratly computed, which is not an issue, because the only interesting information is the user position. So sampling mesures even some errors is fine as long as it works fine to get user position. So the philosophy behing opencellid was to reach the 80/20 ratio: acheiving the 80% of functionality will require only 20% of the time needed to do these 100% functionality. So that's why we have a simple and elegant API, that is used by different devices with different capacities, while acheiving exactly this objective: providing an accurate cell id positionning. In my opinion, considering the following services *** asisted gps *** cell id to google my position kind of service *** cell id to town name service the real questions are: what precision do we need for openmoko location service through gsm cell id ? what precision our possibly merged database would provide ? Assisted GPS does not require huge precision. I am not an expert, but I would be curious to know what is the precision needed to get an assisted GPS. Using triangulation is a different story, and this obvisouly will work fine only in high density area, where you also have high density cells. So again, there is a direct correlation between the precision and the density of the area. Note also that OpenCellID use LAC (Local Area Code) to provide an alternate positioning with a lower precision if a cell is not know, but if the LAC is know. Typically other cells has been discovered in the same area. So once you get CellID positionning, you can use reverse geocoding
Re: [Debian] No wlan device with 2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26
Am Saturday 21 February 2009 14:46:38 schrieb arne anka: I installed kernel 2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26 (.28 kernel from Debian repo) how did you get it? apt-get dist-upgrade does not list another kernel (but 2.6.24). d-a318:~# apt-cache search openmoko [...] linux-image-2.6.24-openmoko-gta02 - Linux 2.6.24 kernel image for the Openmoko Neo Freerunner linux-image-2.6.28-openmoko-gta02 - Linux 2.6.28 kernel image for the Openmoko Neo Freerunner [...] Simply installed the package then. -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] No wlan device with 2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26
d-a318:~# apt-cache search openmoko yes, taht what i did now, and indeed, there it was. but i somehow expected apt-get dist-upgrade to offer the new kernel ... any known reasons why the upgrade is not offered automatically? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM] Less power consumption
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I think you will get 3 hours with the FR and gps - I had it on full | brightness (no suspend and screen on) for about 3 hours - then events/0 | runaway killed it :( Thats with 2008.12, maybe FSO/SHR will be even | better? This events/0 thing is solved for a long while in later kernel versions. On the one hand it's hard enough to solve these issues, but on the other hand the distros need to adapt to later kernels, or nothing changes for the end user no matter what we're fixing. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmgDtoACgkQOjLpvpq7dMq+ogCeJnTCtzAaZpXaR7jagg6KbMXN N4IAn1Q6ZsHaYlBSM0RSLs3+0dzir/TO =pYGz -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM] Less power consumption
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy Green a...@openmoko.com writes: | | Sat Feb 21 02:01:01 EET 2009 65 % | | Sat Feb 21 04:01:06 EET 2009 58 % | | Sat Feb 21 06:01:00 EET 2009 52 % | | Sat Feb 21 08:01:04 EET 2009 45 % | | Sat Feb 21 10:01:00 EET 2009 38 % | | Sat Feb 21 12:01:15 EET 2009 32 % | | What kernel is this? I know you usually run something near HEAD? | | Also please note that after each test call the phone opens a gprs | connection and sends a short status report to nagios monitoring system | which can then alert me if the phone is not responding to calls. This | GPRS connection lasts around 1-3 minutes and probably contributes to | the energy consumption. Well, your consumption is roughly double that of Mickey's... 10h is worth 16% of his battery and 30% of yours. I am sure something real is going on there but with the possibility of very different GSM environments, where it has direct access to the battery, I don't know how to come at it except to see how a GTA02 acts for me next week. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmgEZoACgkQOjLpvpq7dMr9cgCeMEV8XxWetU83ylW7MiAQ0UJX wJQAnRSYU56Y5U/NTX65N5+Klp93Q3Kt =PIqs -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK Build Instructions
Dear Andrew, Thanks for the great work. I'm using ubuntu 8.10 to compile the Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK. I have updated qt lib on ubuntu, still can't fix the problem? Any ideas? $ $QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH/configure -device neo -D _FORTIFY_SOURCE=0 This is the Qt Extended Open Source Edition. You are licensed to use this software under the terms of the GPL. Please see the file LICENSE.GPL for the licensing terms. Type 'yes' to accept this license offer. Type 'no' to decline this license offer. Do you accept this license agreement? yes Testing the system Qt: FAIL Qt Extended requires Qt 4.3 or higher to be installed. You must have qmake in your PATH. If your system's package manager does not provide Qt 4 development libraries please see the Guide to Configuring and Building Qt Extended for information on how to build Qt from the included source or pass -build-qt to configure and it will build Qt for you (and then bootstrap QBuild from that). make: *** [src/build/mkconf/configure] Error 2 On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 15:23 +, and...@howlett.net wrote: Hi all, Just getting started with FreeRuner and thought I would share my experience building Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK. Follow this link for the details: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Radagast#Qt_Extended_SDK later, andrew. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] No wlan device with 2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26
Am Saturday 21 February 2009 15:04:52 schrieb arne anka: d-a318:~# apt-cache search openmoko yes, taht what i did now, and indeed, there it was. but i somehow expected apt-get dist-upgrade to offer the new kernel ... any known reasons why the upgrade is not offered automatically? I guess there are/were some issues with the new kernel and noone bothered to make apt fetch it automatically now... At least I could not find any issues yet. And the kernel seems to have fixed the random wakeup (put neo in suspend in the evening, battery empty in the morning - resumed somewhere in between and drained the battery). -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM] Less power consumption
Andy Green a...@openmoko.com writes: Well, your consumption is roughly double that of Mickey's... 10h is worth 16% of his battery and 30% of yours. What does current_now say to you immediately after resume? Here the values are I see Sat Feb 21 00:01:00 EET 2009 35812 uA Sat Feb 21 02:01:01 EET 2009 35812 uA Sat Feb 21 04:01:06 EET 2009 34125 uA Sat Feb 21 06:01:00 EET 2009 34500 uA Sat Feb 21 08:01:04 EET 2009 34312 uA Sat Feb 21 10:01:00 EET 2009 33750 uA Sat Feb 21 12:01:15 EET 2009 33750 uA Sat Feb 21 14:00:55 EET 2009 33375 uA Shouldn't these measure consumption during suspend? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help
Try this: arecord -D hw -f S16_LE -t wav -c 1 -r 8000 ~/rec-$(date +%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M).wav should work. -c is for the channels. Matthias kimaidou schrieb: Hi ! I totally agree with you, i will implement this for the 0.2 version For the mono thing, I would like it but I don't know yet how to do it. This is why when you open a wav recorded file with audacity, you can see the 2 left and right side, but only the right has data... This is not good. So if someone knwos the parameter to put in arecord to record only one mono sound, this would help ! 2009/2/21 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk mailto:r...@sygehus.dk On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:07:40PM +0100, kimaidou wrote: arecord -D hw -f cd -v -t wav ~/rec-$(date +%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M).wav I think 44100 Hz is overkill for something like this. 8 kHz ought to be enough and would save a lot of disk space. I would have also suggested a mono recording, but I'm not sure that is supported. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK Build Instructions
Daniel.Li escribió: Dear Andrew, Thanks for the great work. I'm using ubuntu 8.10 to compile the Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK. I have updated qt lib on ubuntu, still can't fix the problem? Any ideas? $ $QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH/configure -device neo -D _FORTIFY_SOURCE=0 This is the Qt Extended Open Source Edition. You are licensed to use this software under the terms of the GPL. Please see the file LICENSE.GPL for the licensing terms. Type 'yes' to accept this license offer. Type 'no' to decline this license offer. Do you accept this license agreement? yes Testing the system Qt: FAIL Qt Extended requires Qt 4.3 or higher to be installed. You must have qmake in your PATH. If your system's package manager does not provide Qt 4 development libraries please see the Guide to Configuring and Building Qt Extended for information on how to build Qt from the included source or pass -build-qt to configure and it will build Qt for you (and then bootstrap QBuild from that). make: *** [src/build/mkconf/configure] Error 2 On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 15:23 +, and...@howlett.net wrote: Hi all, Just getting started with FreeRuner and thought I would share my experience building Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK. Follow this link for the details: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:R dagast#Qt_Extended_SDK later, andrew. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community You need to install the qt4-dev-tools, libqt4-dev packages (i think that should pull all dependencies, else just search for qt4 and install what you see fit) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] No wlan device with 2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26
i tried that kernel a week ago and the wlan was not working so i just removed it and went back to 24... i thought the there was a reason why it wasn't listed in updates ;-) sorry next time i'll open a thead immediately d On 2/21/09, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Saturday 21 February 2009 15:04:52 schrieb arne anka: d-a318:~# apt-cache search openmoko yes, taht what i did now, and indeed, there it was. but i somehow expected apt-get dist-upgrade to offer the new kernel ... any known reasons why the upgrade is not offered automatically? I guess there are/were some issues with the new kernel and noone bothered to make apt fetch it automatically now... At least I could not find any issues yet. And the kernel seems to have fixed the random wakeup (put neo in suspend in the evening, battery empty in the morning - resumed somewhere in between and drained the battery). -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM] Less power consumption
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I've decided to try the unstable SHR to see if the power consumption is less than OM 2008.12. Could you link me the best rootfs and kernel? I'm searching for something stable and suitable for a daily phone (my needs are some calls and some trackings every day). Actually, my 2008.12 sometimes freezes so it is not so usable... Yes, I know that SHR unstable pushes away the concepts of stable, usable and daily phone but... I'll give it a try :D Thanks, David Garabana Barro ha scritto: On Friday 20 February 2009 09:43:15 Francesco de Virgilio wrote: this is just a little question flogging in my mind since 2008.12 was released: when will we have a lower power-consumption kernel, getting the Neo FreeRunner usable for 3 or 4 days (suspending it frequently)? You should try FSO 5 or unstable SHR. With latest unstable SHR image, after 40 hours mostly suspended I had about 50% battery. battery life is improving a lot! - -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmgG1UACgkQRi2TsGSC4FYa1gCfXE5CHWbuibZkejDHTwyYRRRQ cs4AoJJiSmpchCvb1G/6LzG1F7Za2/Iu =ptHr -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help
matthias matthiasfels...@web.de writes: arecord -D hw -f S16_LE -t wav -c 1 -r 8000 ~/rec-$(date +%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M).wav How about using speex compression? I recorded a few words with arecord -f S16_LE -r 44100 a.wav and ended up with a 1089580-byte file. speexenc a.wav a.speex reduced the size to only 78214 bytes and speexdec a.speex played it back with better quality than the 8000 Hz recording. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] No wlan device with 2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26
i tried that kernel a week ago and the wlan was not working so i just removed it and went back to 24... well, wlan is a nice to have, not crucial -- but just for fun: i enabled wifi in opp and did ifconfig eth0 up (which probably should be done automagically) and eth0 was there, iwlist eth scan listed several aps. i thought the there was a reason why it wasn't listed in updates ;-) i had some dim recollection of issues, but that they were solved by now. what i see, though, are several messages about sysfs pathes not found, which surpises me slightly, since i understood ms5 was fully compatible with 2.6.28. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM] Less power consumption
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 16:18, Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com wrote: sometimes freezes so it is not so usable... Yes, I know that SHR unstable pushes away the concepts of stable, usable and daily phone but... I'll give it a try :D But it looks like SHR unstable is now the most stable, usable and daily phone... ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need help flashing my freerunner for the first time
Well, Maybe u can consult this reference. Remove all other usb device when u flash the device, I think. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 16:15 +0100, Fernando Martins wrote: Adam Jimerson wrote: My big problem is that the freerunner stays active for 30 seconds, but dfu-util takes 3 minutes before it even tries to connect, by this time it just spits out an error about how it can't find the device. I am using the USB cable that came in the OM package, I can deffinitly try a different USB port, good thing my computer has a lot of those it seems. As for the setting menu not working on my phone does this work in 2008.12? This now my biggest reason for wanting to flash it, without access to settings there is not much I can do to it. I'm using dfu-util 0.1 under ubuntu 8.10 and it is instantaneous to detect the FR, most of the times. When it doesn't work immediately, I just restart the connection procedure. At 2nd or 3d try it has worked. Have you tried to connect other usb devices on the same port? Is it recognised immediately by Suse? Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM] Less power consumption
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johny Tenfinger ha scritto: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 16:18, Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com wrote: sometimes freezes so it is not so usable... Yes, I know that SHR unstable pushes away the concepts of stable, usable and daily phone but... I'll give it a try :D But it looks like SHR unstable is now the most stable, usable and daily phone... ;) Yeah! So, what are the best kernel and rootfs? - -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmgIcAACgkQRi2TsGSC4FbuegCdEJEqDhogyVpeEVx2For5k+ND 2JwAoKWXbnnzUxdg3mchzGXnsvgrSCmi =8WbN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM] Less power consumption
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 16:46, Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah! So, what are the best kernel and rootfs? Latest :) http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/shr-lite-image-om-gta02.jffs2 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r3-om-gta02.bin Of course sometimes you will have to fix something manually (as I), but how to do all of that thing you can find on maillists. Thinking, like everything will work after flash and boot is wrong for all Openmoko images ;D Ah - after first booting, reboot it ;) On first boot usb networking doesn't work. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM] Less power consumption
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johny Tenfinger ha scritto: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 16:46, Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah! So, what are the best kernel and rootfs? Latest :) Thanks :) http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/shr-lite-image-om-gta02.jffs2 http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r3-om-gta02.bin Of course sometimes you will have to fix something manually (as I), but how to do all of that thing you can find on maillists. Thinking, like everything will work after flash and boot is wrong for all Openmoko images ;D Little hacks are the reason which pushed me to buy a Neo FreeRunner :D Ah - after first booting, reboot it ;) On first boot usb networking doesn't work. OOK :D - -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmgJ9QACgkQRi2TsGSC4FajaQCffcL63LWC404M7/0MDVZgazV2 ca8AoI2MfCpTAci2P9ywkCvDMiLZvgTl =jSrB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help
Great idea ! Thanks for both of you, I will -soon- put this in the 0.2 version. One question : on which package depends speexenc and speexdec ? kimaidou 2009/2/21 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi matthias matthiasfels...@web.de writes: arecord -D hw -f S16_LE -t wav -c 1 -r 8000 ~/rec-$(date +%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M).wav How about using speex compression? I recorded a few words with arecord -f S16_LE -r 44100 a.wav and ended up with a 1089580-byte file. speexenc a.wav a.speex reduced the size to only 78214 bytes and speexdec a.speex played it back with better quality than the 8000 Hz recording. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help
kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com writes: One question : on which package depends speexenc and speexdec ? $ find-package-by-file bin/speexenc You have searched for paths that end with bin/speexenc in suite etch, all sections, and all /usr/bin/speexenc speex You have searched for paths that end with bin/speexenc in suite lenny, all sections, and all /usr/bin/speexenc speex You have searched for paths that end with bin/speexenc in suite squeeze, all sections, and all /usr/bin/speexenc speex You have searched for paths that end with bin/speexenc in suite sid, all sections, and all /usr/bin/speexenc speex http://iki.fi/lindi/find-package-by-file is a simple one-liner to query packages.debian.org to always have up-to-date information. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: yaml rule to stop suspending when using gps
To my knowledge, there is no specific action available to the oevents subsystem of frameworkd that would allow one to set up a rule in rules.yaml (maybe I am wrong). However, newer frameworkd's have resource requesting that will allow one to request CPU resource which will stop frameworkd from suspending. It is not hard to implement, especially in python. Take a look at code in my updates to pythm (opkg.org) for an example. You will want backend/backend.py. You could either implement this in the application directly, or perhaps make a wrapper for it. On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 13:48, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: Thanks for the dbus lines - saved me some research to find them! does the mdbus calls work for you with a recent frameworkd (ie ms5)? every attempt to do something like this dies on my debian/fso with an auth error -- be i root or not. To me on shr-unstable it works. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Dylan Maxwell Reilly ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Qi) Qi or bust, or: what do I do wrong?
What do I do wrong here? I downloaded the files Sander suggested. I fed them to my flash-script. Note: $kernel contains uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr3 4240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r3-om-gta02.bin $image contains fso-paroli-image-om-gta02.jffs2 The script-commands I used: dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D qi-s3c2442-master-hist_1665e43677c005a8.udfu sleep 2 dfu-util -a kernel -R -D $kernel sleep 2 dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D $image The output: dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY Opening USB Device 0x:0x... Claiming USB DFU Runtime Interface... Determining device status: state = appIDLE, status = 0 Device really in Runtime Mode, send DFU detach request... Resetting USB... Opening USB Device... Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=61, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=1, name=u-boot Claiming USB DFU Interface... Setting Alternate Setting ... Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0 dfuIDLE, continuing Transfer Size = 0x1000 bytes_per_hash=567 Starting download: [##] finished ! state(2) = dfuIDLE, status(0) = No error condition is present Done! Resetting USB to switch back to runtime mode dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY Opening USB Device 0x:0x... Claiming USB DFU Runtime Interface... Determining device status: state = appIDLE, status = 0 Device really in Runtime Mode, send DFU detach request... Resetting USB... Opening USB Device... Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=63, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=3, name=kernel Claiming USB DFU Interface... Setting Alternate Setting ... Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0 dfuIDLE, continuing Transfer Size = 0x1000 bytes_per_hash=39604 Starting download: [##] finished ! state(2) = dfuIDLE, status(0) = No error condition is present Done! Resetting USB to switch back to runtime mode dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc. This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY Opening USB Device 0x:0x... Claiming USB DFU Runtime Interface... Determining device status: state = appIDLE, status = 0 Device really in Runtime Mode, send DFU detach request... Resetting USB... Opening USB Device... Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=65, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name=rootfs Claiming USB DFU Interface... Setting Alternate Setting ... Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0 dfuIDLE, continuing Transfer Size = 0x1000 bytes_per_hash=1740636 Starting download: [##] finished ! state(2) = dfuIDLE, status(0) = No error condition is present Done! Resetting USB to switch back to runtime mode [p...@merlijn Freerunner]$ This all looks fine and dandy. But when I reboot (or pull the battery and stick that in again), all I see are the errors I already described. The CPU 0 stall, the EEC errors, and so on. I really feel that Qi was not a good idea. At least, with u-boot as it was, I had a reasonably good phone using SHR. I also have the uneasy feeling that there is no undo from Qi, or am I wrong? Paul -- Boy, if Bill Gates had a nickle for every time Windows crashed Oh, wait, he does! http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2009 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Annuncing new Project - Intone mplayer frontend
Mplayer can't handle VBR mp3's by default. I have a patch (and executable) lying around if that is something that interests you. On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:26 PM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Stefan Monnier wrote: If you use the MPD backend, it works very efficiently (probably the same as what you see with your mplayer+intone). The other advantage of MPD is that you can control it from anywhere . Sure. :-) I haven't used MPD. But I'm more looking at using the phone as a standalone music player (while travelling etc). I have no intentions of belittling pythm or any other player (who all probably fit somewhere in the app landscape). Just looking for a different solution to a similar prob. Hence the reference. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Annuncing-new-Project---Intone-mplayer-frontend-tp2357405p2362669.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Dylan Maxwell Reilly ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Annuncing new Project - Intone mplayer frontend
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Dylan Reilly drei...@atariland.net wrote: Mplayer can't handle VBR mp3's by default. I have a patch [...] It can, and it does. I use mplayer as my only audio-player and listen to VBR MP3s every day. No need for a patch. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need help flashing my freerunner for the first time
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com wrote: Well, Maybe u can consult this reference. Remove all other usb device when u flash the device, I think. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 16:15 +0100, Fernando Martins wrote: Adam Jimerson wrote: My big problem is that the freerunner stays active for 30 seconds, but dfu-util takes 3 minutes before it even tries to connect, by this time it just spits out an error about how it can't find the device. I am using the USB cable that came in the OM package, I can deffinitly try a different USB port, good thing my computer has a lot of those it seems. As for the setting menu not working on my phone does this work in 2008.12? This now my biggest reason for wanting to flash it, without access to settings there is not much I can do to it. I'm using dfu-util 0.1 under ubuntu 8.10 and it is instantaneous to detect the FR, most of the times. When it doesn't work immediately, I just restart the connection procedure. At 2nd or 3d try it has worked. Have you tried to connect other usb devices on the same port? Is it recognised immediately by Suse? Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I got it to show up and I started to back it up but the phone shut off for being in NOR boot for about 30 minutes, the Freerunner is the only USB device connected to my computer and I did try other ports before getting it to work. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Annuncing new Project - Intone mplayer frontend
Does it handle the song length correctly? The versions I have used play them but do not know how long they are because it ignores VBR headers. Knowing the length of a song is useful for GUI's. On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Thomas Gstädtner tho...@gstaedtner.net wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Dylan Reilly drei...@atariland.net wrote: Mplayer can't handle VBR mp3's by default. I have a patch [...] It can, and it does. I use mplayer as my only audio-player and listen to VBR MP3s every day. No need for a patch. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Dylan Maxwell Reilly ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets?
Hi! I'm trying to get my bluetooth headset to work for calls on the freerunner. I have mixed results so far, literally - the other end can hear my voice but I hear nothing. I've created a Wiki page with a howto on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Bluetooth_headset which will give you a headset with static noise (good start, right!). After that I've tried to follow these pages http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_Audio_Subsystem http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem and have most luck with GSMBLUETOOTH.txt, which gives me good outgoing sound. After the steps on my wiki page I do this to setup the bluetooth connection after the call has been answered: alsactl restore 0 -f GSMBLUETOOTH.txt ./bluetooth_pcm but from here I'm lost. I'm running FSO milestone 5 - have anyone else got this working and if so, what did you do? // Simon ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets?
Simon Kagstrom simon.kagst...@gmail.com writes: I'm trying to get my bluetooth headset to work for calls on the What's the model? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Query] Known Good SD cards
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:57:27AM +0500, Shaz wrote: Hi everyone, I need some guidance on uSD cards because i tried a few locally available to my town but none are working. My understanding is that its the quality or I am making a mistake in compatibility. I need some help in understanding this issue. If there are known to be working SD cards then I would order from some other place if not available locally. I bought an 8 GB speed class 4 SanDisk card marked 0732502849DZG (in very small letters - bring a magnifying glass to the shop). It came bundled with a combined MicroSDHC and M2 card reader with USB connector. I've had the card for about two months with a Debian installation and it works fine with u-boot (as shipped in NOR and NAND flash) and kernel versions 2.6.24 and andy-tracking 2.6.28. No boot parameters required. There were two different SanDisk packages of an 8 GB card and a USB card reader I could choose from. According to the salesman the differences were only in the packaging. But anyway, the one I bought has 80-13-02494 printed at the bottom of each page of the user guide. The barcode on the back of the package reads 6 1965904025 3 with SDSDQR-8192-E12M printed above it and 80-56-04874-8192 printed below it. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets?
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 21:02:22 +0200 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Simon Kagstrom simon.kagst...@gmail.com writes: I'm trying to get my bluetooth headset to work for calls on the What's the model? I've tried both a Nokia BH-604 and a SonyEricsson HBH-PV700, both work for outgoing audio but not incoming. // Simon ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
automatic answer a Call and play a wav/ogg/mp3 like an answer-machine?
Hi all, the subject says it, so is it possible? I think of a profile-based 'phone/sms-firewall', playing back selfmade wav-files to different callers. So you can easy switch into the meeting-profile when you have a meeting, or can switch to a night-profile, where only special callers will come through... regards, HMB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Annuncing new Project - Intone mplayer frontend
If you use the MPD backend, it works very efficiently (probably the same as what you see with your mplayer+intone). The other advantage of MPD is that you can control it from anywhere . Sure. :-) I haven't used MPD. But I'm more looking at using the phone as a standalone music player (while travelling etc). MPD+pythm works just fine as a standalone music player as well, of course. I have no intentions of belittling pythm or any other player (who all probably fit somewhere in the app landscape). Neither did I want to belittle your work. Just pointing out that your original motivation could have been addressed without reinventing the wheel. Maybe your wheel is really much better, but from what I've seen in the past, we have too many toyish music players, so it would be better to improve existing ones than to make yet-another-one. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] No wlan device with 2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26
I installed kernel 2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26 (.28 kernel from Debian repo) how did you get it? apt-get dist-upgrade does not list another kernel (but 2.6.24). AFAIK the two kernels are in different packages, not in different versions of the same package. And I haven't found a virtual package which I could install (and which would have pointer to the 2.6.24 kernel before and could later be changed to point to 2.6.28). Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: automatic answer a Call and play a wav/ogg/mp3 like an answer-machine?
Yet another feature I'm dying to see added. Being a student, I'd love my phone to automatically mute/take messages while I'm in classes. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
HELP: sim card not registering...
Hi, I'm switching operator and today I got m y new sim card. The current one will stop working in a few work days, so I'm desperate (YES, I use the Freerunner as my main day to day phone): it's not registering. I followed these instructions and they worked flawlessly: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing Where this not enough? Where this not correct even though it worked? Please help... Thanks, Rui -- Pzat! Today is Boomtime, the 52nd day of Chaos in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: matthias matthiasfels...@web.de writes: arecord -D hw -f S16_LE -t wav -c 1 -r 8000 ~/rec-$(date +%Y-%m-%d-%H-%M).wav How about using speex compression? I recorded a few words with arecord -f S16_LE -r 44100 a.wav and ended up with a 1089580-byte file. speexenc a.wav a.speex In this case I suggest using something like arecord -f S16_LE -r 44100 | speexenc - a.speex -- Charles-Henri ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [New software] openBmap logger (GSM positioning)
Olivier Migeot wrote: On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: There are many creative commons licenses, some are permit commercial use, some don't. If you go one click further, you'd discover that the said Creative Commons licence chosed by OpenCellID is : http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ So it should be ok for openbmap guys. That could explain the thing about merging both databases. Any official insight on this? I've been collecting cell information for a few weeks, with some home-made script, and I'd like to know where I should commit them to. Please please forgive me if I'm wrong. I put my hand up and say I am not an expert in this area and COULD BE WRONG. opencellid has A LOT of data for the UK. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if this was all the towers. Due to a load of people being scared of phone masts and radiation etc, the uk body in charge of radio stuff etc. OFCOM, made available on this website: http://www.sitefinder.ofcom.org.uk/ pretty much all the locations of all the cell towers... I'm not sure how that information is licenced.. I have seen discussions about this before I think but I can't remember where... it could have been OSM related. Obviously the issue would be opencellid integrating unclearls licenced data. Before you reply: STOP. As I said before, I may well be wrong! Happy Hacking, Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [New software] openBmap logger (GSM positioning)
yeah http://www.sites.bipt.be/indexnl1.html has the same for belgium I e-mailed them already twice about the licences, they did not respond :( y On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Tim Dobson li...@tdobson.net wrote: Olivier Migeot wrote: On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: There are many creative commons licenses, some are permit commercial use, some don't. If you go one click further, you'd discover that the said Creative Commons licence chosed by OpenCellID is : http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ So it should be ok for openbmap guys. That could explain the thing about merging both databases. Any official insight on this? I've been collecting cell information for a few weeks, with some home-made script, and I'd like to know where I should commit them to. Please please forgive me if I'm wrong. I put my hand up and say I am not an expert in this area and COULD BE WRONG. opencellid has A LOT of data for the UK. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if this was all the towers. Due to a load of people being scared of phone masts and radiation etc, the uk body in charge of radio stuff etc. OFCOM, made available on this website: http://www.sitefinder.ofcom.org.uk/ pretty much all the locations of all the cell towers... I'm not sure how that information is licenced.. I have seen discussions about this before I think but I can't remember where... it could have been OSM related. Obviously the issue would be opencellid integrating unclearls licenced data. Before you reply: STOP. As I said before, I may well be wrong! Happy Hacking, Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Debian] Etk gui?
G'evening, I'd at least like to try to build an Etk gui for Pythm. Problem: I have Debian running and don't really want to change that, so I'm wondering if there are e17 widget lib(s) available for it. The minimal etk gui example from the wiki doesn't work since the python module etk is missing. Zhone doesn't seem to be a usable example for this case since it does all its gui using custom graphics (and is not too clearly arranged...). Does anyone have a hint or suggestions? -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help
Charles-Henri Gros charles-henri.gros+openm...@m4x.org writes:
In this case I suggest using something like
arecord -f S16_LE -r 44100 | speexenc - a.speex
I was going to suggest it too but it does not work:
$ time arecord -f S16_LE -r 44100 | speexenc - a.speex
Recording WAVE 'stdin' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Mono
Warning: Speex is only optimized for 8, 16 and 32 kHz. It will still work at
44100 Hz but your mileage may vary
Encoding 44100 Hz audio using ultra-wideband (sub-band CELP) mode (mono)
real0m0.700s
user0m0.095s
sys 0m0.155s
strace shows
read(0, RIFF$\0\0\200WAVEfmt \20\0\0\0\1\0\1\0D\254\0\0\210X\1\0\2..., 4096)
= 4096
write(2, Warning: Speex is only optimized ..., 112) = 112
write(2, Encoding 44100 Hz audio using ult..., 73) = 73
open(a.speex, O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC, 0666) = 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) =
0x40021000
write(3, OggS\0\2\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0p\310\232l\0\0\0\0\23N\314\254\1PSpeex...,
287) = 287
close(3)= 0
munmap(0x40021000, 4096)= 0
exit_group(0) = ?
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Re: (Qi) Qi or bust, or: what do I do wrong?
I really feel that Qi was not a good idea. At least, with u-boot as it was, I had a reasonably good phone using SHR. I also have the uneasy feeling that there is no undo from Qi, or am I wrong? You're wrong :) I installed Qi once, but reflashing u-boot on top of it worked just fine. -- Charles-Henri ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Qi) Qi or bust, or: what do I do wrong?
2009/2/22 Paul p...@nlpagan.net What do I do wrong here? Nothing wrong with the flashing, as far as I can tell. What do you have on the SD card? Qi tries to boot kernels from the the first three partitions on SD first... Rich ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Installing software?
This may seem like a dumb question, that may have been asked before and I just could not find where to search the archives of the list, but when I use the installer program on my freerunner I get a error about how it can't access the repo. Does the freerunner need to be connected to the wifi or via Ethernet over USB? I'm new to the Freerunner and openmoko and figured while I fight the dfu-util program so I can backup and flash it (see my other thread) might as well have some fun and learn more about it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Installing software?
to install programs you can either: *download it on your host pc, scp it to the freerunner and install it *connect the FR to the internet (usb/wifi/bluetooth...) and opkg install something *connect the FR to the internet and use the graphical UI that is included in some distro's like 2008.x a very easy way is to set up usb networking (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking), ssh into your FR, take a look at for example www.opkg.org, and copy paste the code to install something in the terminal when shh'd into the freerunner y On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com wrote: This may seem like a dumb question, that may have been asked before and I just could not find where to search the archives of the list, but when I use the installer program on my freerunner I get a error about how it can't access the repo. Does the freerunner need to be connected to the wifi or via Ethernet over USB? I'm new to the Freerunner and openmoko and figured while I fight the dfu-util program so I can backup and flash it (see my other thread) might as well have some fun and learn more about it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Installing software?
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: to install programs you can either: *download it on your host pc, scp it to the freerunner and install it *connect the FR to the internet (usb/wifi/bluetooth...) and opkg install something *connect the FR to the internet and use the graphical UI that is included in some distro's like 2008.x a very easy way is to set up usb networking (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking), ssh into your FR, take a look at for example www.opkg.org, and copy paste the code to install something in the terminal when shh'd into the freerunner y Thanks for the quick reply, as of right now I can't connect my freerunner to the internet, I can't launch the settings menu and can't find some kind of command line short of shhing into the phone when it is connected via USB. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM] Less power consumption
On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 15:20 +0200, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au writes: I think you will get 3 hours with the FR and gps - I had it on full brightness (no suspend and screen on) for about 3 hours - then events/0 Well, don't keep the screen on, that will eat the battery :-) True, and I without the screen I can turn GPS off as well and save some more ... :) BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Introducing CellHunter
Hi, now I find the time to post on the community mailinglist and like to (already mentioned here) introduce myself and CellHunter. I am student right now and got together with some friends and imagined that we could have fun with cellids and games based on there cells. But for this we need a database to work on and so i started the project CellHunter [1]. CellHunter is a game where you collect cellids together with the gps position you received this cell. You are working in teams and get points for each cell you submit. The score for the submitted cell depends on the type of cell if it is already known or brand new. More about the point system on the homepage [2]. Right know the CellHunter database contains about 45 entries with ~9000 unique cells. 35 teams active and we get new cells everyday. I know that there a several other cell databases and i contacted opencellid two days ago and will contribute. Others are welcome to contact me. The license of the data is discussed at the moment, i think it will be cc-by-sa but because this project is very new and grows faster than i expected i just want to check available licenses and their pros and cons. The idea to create a database of cells is not new but to combine it with a game is something that motivates people to contribute. Here are some technical details about CellHunter: - offline and online logging of cells - logging of the main and up to 6 neighbourcells your mobile phone sees - statistcs displayed right on your freerunner - data displayable in google maps and osm - browsing osm cell map with dynamically loaded cell locations - export as kml / csv of the whole db or by team - teams of submitters with infotext about the group on the homepage - gui availabe in german and english Most of the already collected cells are located in germany and i would like to see some other countries to start their teams and collect points. You get ready to run FSO and debian packages on the homepage [2]. If you have any ideas or suggestions i would like to hear them. For german users: we discuss cellhunter at the freeyourphone forums [3] Greetings, Sebastian [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/CellHunter [2] http://cellhunter.omoco.de [3] http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=9t=865 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: HELP: sim card not registering...
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 09:25:50PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Hi, I'm switching operator and today I got m y new sim card. The current one will stop working in a few work days, so I'm desperate (YES, I use the Freerunner as my main day to day phone): it's not registering. I followed these instructions and they worked flawlessly: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing Where this not enough? Where this not correct even though it worked? Please help... Well, a Nokia and an Ericcsson phone don't load it either so maybe the SIM card is borked. Ah well... Rui -- You are what you see. Today is Pungenday, the 53rd day of Chaos in the YOLD 3175 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Etk gui?
Am Saturday 21 February 2009 22:53:27 schrieben Sie: G'evening, I'd at least like to try to build an Etk gui for Pythm. Problem: I have Debian running and don't really want to change that, so I'm wondering if there are e17 widget lib(s) available for it. The minimal etk gui example from the wiki doesn't work since the python module etk is missing. Zhone doesn't seem to be a usable example for this case since it does all its gui using custom graphics (and is not too clearly arranged...). Does anyone have a hint or suggestions? I hereby kind of broaden my question: Is there some python-etk package available for Debian at all? Just checked out the paroli code but cannot run it because python-etk is missing... :/ -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help
Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Charles-Henri Gros charles-henri.gros+openm...@m4x.org writes: In this case I suggest using something like arecord -f S16_LE -r 44100 | speexenc - a.speex I was going to suggest it too but it does not work: I looked into it. What I did to get it to work: arecord -D hw -f cd -v -t raw | speexenc --stereo --rate 44100 --16bit --le - a.speex You need to match the params exactly as the raw format doesn't transmit them (and speexenc apparently can only accept raw data as stdin) -- Charles-Henri ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Annuncing new Project - Intone mplayer frontend
Hi, Fabian Henze wrote: If it is in such an early state, you might consider switching to some EFL based GUI library ... Well, I switched. And here are the problems :- 1. I could get elementary set up for compiling after about 4 hrs of effort (getting stuff from the svn, compiling all the libraries etc) on my PC. 2. The program is up and running on the PC, but now I realise that there are no dev versions of elementary and its dependencies on FSO. SHR and openmoko are using older (yet different) versions. Finally got some ipk's from angstrom - but the linker is giving me errors about libelementary.so: undefined reference to `ecore_evas_object_associate' libelementary.so: undefined reference to `ecore_evas_object_associate_get' libelementary.so: undefined reference to `ecore_evas_software_wince_gdi_new' And this after another day of trying to get the cross-compile environment for elementary. The only thing left is to get the libraries from svn into the environment - only then things might not work on the phone. For eg - the svn version has sliders and genlists. While the one on the phone doesn't. 3. So - I'm back to GTK for now. Need to get some more work done before I can get back to elementary. @ anyone at FSO - Can we have some development libraries for elementary too? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Annuncing-new-Project---Intone-mplayer-frontend-tp2357405p2366241.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-Unstable] Cannot get ophonekitd to use SIM
Hi. I just installed SHR unstable, and when I run ophonekitd, it dies with: Unknown SIM error: Antenna powered off or SIM not unlocked yet, 77 (dbus-glib-error-quark), code 32 SHR-Testing works fine, so what can I do to fix this? My SIM is not locked, to the best of my knowledge. -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets?
Hi, Simon Kagstrom wrote: I've tried both a Nokia BH-604 and a SonyEricsson HBH-PV700, both work for outgoing audio but not incoming. I'm in a similar situation. Have a Jabra BT-125. Didn't place calls to check the outgoing audio since there wasn't anything coming in. The headset plays its connecting and disconnecting tone - but I don't hear any audio. MS5 with 2.6.28-rc4 for me. There's been some discussion about the voice-recording.state on the ML. Seems like the DAI mode 1 has implementation problems. Maybe we need to try voip-headset.state. Just a thought - haven't gotten around to doing that yet. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-FSO--Any-luck-with-bluetooth-headsets--tp2364708p2366258.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtExtended] Report on 4.4.3 src on FSO
Hello list! as some might have noticed, I've been struggling with my efforts to build QtExtended on FSO as specified on mwester's page[1]. Today I've been successful on building the whole pack of stuff and run it on my neo. So here's my report to whoever is interested (skip down to just check out what works and what doesn't): Built on Ubuntu 8.04, using backported Qt. First thing I built was FSO, but since fso-testing was not compiling (some packages were missing from the src repos), i decided to compile fso-m5. All was good (takes a long time!!). So i built the images, then built the nox version and then the toolchain. All was good. To build QtExtended was another story. No matter what I did, it would always complain about not finding libdbus-1 when using FSO's toolchain. I tried all the pkg-config wizardry I could come up with but nothing worked in the end, so I ended up compiling QtE using nokia's toolchain. If anyone got any tips on how to compile QtE using FSO's toolchain, I'd love to know them. So after everything was built I flashed the whole pack into the phone and installed QtE as mwester's instructions (thanks!), only to realize that 2.6.28 is terribly supported under QtE, and would kill the screen upon resume from suspend, and also, most thing would freeze up and just die a painful death. Then I flashed a 2.6.24 kernel from openmoko's daily build[2], together with the modules and console image, then installed QtE again and bam! all was working. This is what I've tested so far: working good: suspend and resume power management changes (which didn't work properly on 4.4.2) UI speed (way better than 4.4.2) boot speed (boots in under a minute in my phone) GSM (it unregistered once, maybe a one-time issue), but phone quality is superb, and it never happened again. not working so good: Wifi (can register, but won't update /etc/resolv.conf so no dns, and it will stop working after a suspend, to never come back) did not test yet: GPRS (however, it was working perfectly in 4.4.2 so I assume this is still the case) GPS Bluetooth (same as gprs, was fine before) so, if anyone was thinking about compiling 4.4.3 snapshots to get better networking...well, I cannot say I reccomend it since it did not fix the dns issues that 4.4.2 has, but it is indeed way speedier. If anyone wants to try it, I can upload the whole set of images somewhere, or maybe a full backup of my phone so people can try it for themselves (just please notice that this is highly experimental and probably not very well built) hope I didn't bore you with this lengthy post. [1]http://moko.mwester.net/qtextended.html [2]http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/testing/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing CellHunter
2009/2/22 Sebastian Hammerl list-openm...@omoco.de: now I find the time to post on the community mailinglist and like to (already mentioned here) introduce myself and CellHunter. I am student right now and got together with some friends and imagined that we could have fun with cellids and games based on there cells. But for this we need a database to work on and so i started the project CellHunter [1]. CellHunter is a game where you collect cellids together with the gps position you received this cell. You are working in teams and get points for each cell you submit. The score for the submitted cell depends on the type of cell if it is already known or brand new. More about the point system on the homepage [2]. Right know the CellHunter database contains about 45 entries with ~9000 unique cells. 35 teams active and we get new cells everyday. I know that there a several other cell databases and i contacted opencellid two days ago and will contribute. Others are welcome to contact me. The license of the data is discussed at the moment, i think it will be cc-by-sa but because this project is very new and grows faster than i expected i just want to check available licenses and their pros and cons. Hi Sebastian, good to hear you're working on this project. i've been working on openstreetmap.org, a conceptually similar project, for a couple of years now - they are currently in the process of transitioning from cc-by-sa to a new license, specifically designed for databases, with the help of a lawyer or two. their theory is that cc is more for creative content, which is not really applicable to osm; this may be useful for your project too. more info here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Qi) Qi or bust, or: what do I do wrong?
You're wrong :) I installed Qi once, but reflashing u-boot on top of it worked just fine Sometimes it is good to be wrong... :-) Glad to know there's a way back! Paul -- Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers. -Mignon McLaughlin http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2009 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Qi) Qi or bust, or: what do I do wrong?
Richard Guest wrote: 2009/2/22 Paul p...@nlpagan.net mailto:p...@nlpagan.net What do I do wrong here? Nothing wrong with the flashing, as far as I can tell. What do you have on the SD card? Qi tries to boot kernels from the the first three partitions on SD first... On the SD-card there's not much. A few directories with small stuff. I read on the wiki that Qi first tries to boot from the first 3 partitions on the card and after that from flash memory. It's the latter that does not seem to work quite that well, at least on my FR. When I feel adventurous again (and I have more time again), I may play with it some more. Thanks! Paul -- Every society honors its live conformists and its dead troublemakers. -Mignon McLaughlin http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2009 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Etk gui?
Am Saturday 21 February 2009 22:53:27 schrieben Sie: G'evening, I'd at least like to try to build an Etk gui for Pythm. Problem: I have Debian running and don't really want to change that, so I'm wondering if there are e17 widget lib(s) available for it. The minimal etk gui example from the wiki doesn't work since the python module etk is missing. Zhone doesn't seem to be a usable example for this case since it does all its gui using custom graphics (and is not too clearly arranged...). Does anyone have a hint or suggestions? I hereby kind of broaden my question: Is there some python-etk package available for Debian at all? Not yet. Stay tuned :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
