Re: [QtExtended] Report on 4.4.3 src on FSO
Hi, Tom. Thank you for you instruction although I haven't try it. And I just made a compile on qtextended snapshot 20090223, no patches applied. And I made a rootfs image and a tarball with the daily build nox rootfs and 2.6.24 kernel (20090223) from downloads.openmoko.org. You can get it here: http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/. I haven't give it a test. I will do it after work today. If anyone would like to try, just download it. Hope it gives you a lot of fun. On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Tomas Riveros Schober trive...@enable.clwrote: Yes usb networking is running after the second reboot. to fix the echo you have to patch it according to http://www.csamuel.org/2009/01/08/echo-suppression-fix-for-qt-extended-442-on-openmoko-neo (or just download the patched binary) Tom HouYu Li escribió: I am also able to build the latest qt-extended snapshots. Is the usb0 network running? I am not able to get it work. And .. the phone echo is still not fixed.. On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Ali alish...@interchange.ubc.ca mailto:alish...@interchange.ubc.ca wrote: Very nice! Ever since I saw it on mwester's page i've been wanting to do this, but ran into an error and haven't had know how/time to investigate. I love the pim features of qt extended but the lack of packages make it quite boring. Is it possible to run an xserver simultaneously so I can run other applications than qt ones? I would really appreciate a jffs2 image of the rootfs. Mwester has stuff at http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#qtx_on_fso but I think it's somewhat old now and it didn't work when I last tried it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com http://hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com http://gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net http://phpex.net PHP Programmer Red Hat Certified Engineer 15th Feb, 2008 Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Programmer Red Hat Certified Engineer 15th Feb, 2008 Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1
Hi I am running the Hackable1, based on debian. I need some help to install right click capabilities on it. Could you please describe step by step how to install and use it ? thanks in advance Kimaidou 2009/2/24 Michele Renda michele.re...@gmail.com I don't know what you did on tslib patch, but now it is running very very well. I can now do a right click only with my finger too. It is perfect. We can proceed foo canonization? :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Wolfson WM8753 alsa mapping
Hi , This is Openmoko HW engineer Candy in Taipei. We're working on the wm8753 alsa mapping. It's almost done and we'll ask someone in Taipei to add it to Wiki. Thanks for ur information. We'll keep you posted. Candy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1
On 24/02/2009 09:33, kimaidou wrote: Hi I am running the Hackable1, based on debian. I need some help to install right click capabilities on it. Could you please describe step by step how to install and use it ? If it is based on Debian you can follow these steps: Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf Change this Option TslibDevice /dev/input/event1 with this Option Device/dev/input/event1 In the same section add this option: Option EmulateRightButton1 And now... install this: wget http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.5-3.1_armel.deb dpkg --install xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.5-3.1_armel.deb Reboot and enjoy. Ps. if you want to personalize your distro, I think you can take a lot of ideas from here [1] Best regards Michele Renda [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: build fso image erorr
But Michael, what do you mean by Take a look at the images directory ? I cannot find any directory named images in my fso build dir. Sorry! I am a newbie to FSO build system. I am trying my best... hehe.. On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@openmoko.org wrote: Take a look at the images directory, perhaps it has been renamed in org.oe.dev. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Programmer Red Hat Certified Engineer 15th Feb, 2008 Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Announcing new Project - Intone mplayer frontend
Hi, Well, I've got libmpg123 working and it does seem faster than libmad - but not by much. Of course, I haven't done any further optimisations for ARM. The gain is in the range of 3% CPU usage (and measured by htop which isn't all that accurate either). I've also tried to get tremor going - but it seems to be breaking up the sound (lots of pops and hisses) - so I must be doing something wrong. Does anyone have any ideas how to handle the sampling rate changes in an ogg? I'm also expanding my scope to include AAC. Any recommendations about a fast integer implementation of AAC? I'm looking at pushing out a basic working prototype over the coming weekend. I have an elementary interface ready too on my laptop - but I need dev ipk's for elementary (and dependencies) that would run on FSO M5 (which should also cater for the upcoming SHR). Can anyone help? Any pointers would be welcome. Otherwise, I'm mainly sticking to GTK as of now. Glade lets me modify widgets to suit finger input - except the sliders / scales. Any ideas about how to make them wider? Also, I'm thinking about using a sqlite backend (much later) to store info about the tracks and playlists. Any pointers about that - or will it be overkill? I'm also looking at some mockups / ideas about the GUI. Currently, the player has 4 tabs :- 1 for Creating a playlist with a gtktreeview 1 for showing the current playing song in a treeview 1 for Albumn art 1 for lyrics While the actual getting art or lyrics is not (yet) implemented, I'm looking at modifying this to 2 tabs:- 1 for the Albumn art or lyrics(switchable) with the current playing song, its info and the usual buttons/vol. 1 for creating/managing playlists. Any inputs would be welcome. BTW, it is also dbus friendly :-) I'm requesting resource CPU to prevent suspend during playing. will also implement pausing on suspend and incoming call (though those are not yet quite there in terms of priority right now). -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Annuncing-new-Project---Intone-mplayer-frontend-tp2357405p2376959.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wolfson WM8753 alsa mapping
Hi, Candy Chou candy_c...@openmoko.com writes: This is Openmoko HW engineer Candy in Taipei. We're working on the wm8753 alsa mapping. Have you seen the diagram i prepared? [1] It's almost done and we'll ask someone in Taipei to add it to Wiki. Weird idea to be honest ;) Thanks for ur information. We'll keep you posted. Please tell if you have any plans on implementing an ALSA ctl plugin to present the userspace with clean and simple interface consistent with the particular hardware arrangement. If not, what are your plans wrt this? [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_audio_subsystem -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
problems with special SMS+frameworkd
Hi, I have problems with SMS like created by gammu --sendsms WAPINDICATOR destination URL Title When frameworkd receives such messages from the gsm modem, it gives an exception so no messages are sent to zhone and the message function is not usable. 2009.02.24 09:41:45 dbus.service ERRORUnable to append ([(1, 'read', 'www.fastfoo', '\x11\x06\x01\xae\x02\x05j\x00E\xc6\x0c\x03www.fastfoot.mobi/download/XX/fastfoot.jad\x00\x01\x03FastFoot-Challenge Installation\x00\x01\x01', {'pid': 0, 'type': 'sms-deliver', 'timestamp': 'Sun Feb 22 21:05:49 2009 +0100', 'alphabet': 'binary'})],) to message with signature a(isssa{sv}): type 'exceptions.TypeError': expected string without null bytes 2009.02.24 09:41:45 ogsmd.channel ERRORunhandled exception in response callback: expected string without null bytes Traceback (most recent call last): File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/channel.py, line 380, in handleResponseToRequest ok_cb( reqstring.strip(), response ) File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/mediator.py, line 896, in responseFromChannel self._ok( result ) File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/service.py, line 665, in lambda keywords[return_callback] = lambda *retval: _method_reply_return(connection, message, method_name, signature, *retval) File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/service.py, line 254, in _method_reply_return reply.append(signature=signature, *retval) TypeError: expected string without null bytes Is there at least any quick-fix available? It would be nice if the contents are at least cp'able somewhere, so maybe just deleting the non-printable chars. Unfortunately, my python knowledge is a bit poor. BTW: I cannot create a ticket on https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/newticket: TICKET_CREATE privileges are required to perform this operation signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Android) Uboot
On Feb 24, 2009, at 09:25 , azmodie wrote: 1. The easiest way: Just flash the qi-bootloader into the NAND-memory of your phone (the u-boot-bootloader will still be on the phone(NOR-flash)): dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D qi-s3c2442-master_a2d11c4dd18c9517.udfu Just to add an additional data point, you'll need to flash Qi into NAND in order to use the beta3 or later Android releases. I did it using the OS X OpenMoko Flasher utility and didn't have any problems. Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Announcing new Project - Intone mplayer frontend
Hi, I've seen 2 interesting libraries from Helix - Helix Fixed-point HE-AAC (aacPlus) decoder and the Helix MP3 Decoder (fixed point). Both are fixed point and optimised for ARM. They also have some performance figures on the sites https://datatype.helixcommunity.org/2005/aacfixptdec here and https://datatype.helixcommunity.org/Mp3dec here . But, I cant clearly understand the licensing terms for the aacplus decoder. Can anyone who understands this lawyer gobbledegook (;-) clarify whether I can use the code in a GPL app or not? I'm going to experiment with these and see what I come up with. If the libraries are indeed optimised (for power and speed - as claimed) and I can use them without any encumbrance, then I'll probably use them (instead of libmpg123). Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Annuncing-new-Project---Intone-mplayer-frontend-tp2357405p2377027.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing GSM firmware
On Feb 23, 2009, at 04:48 , community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org wrote: Send community mailing list submissions to community@lists.openmoko.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org You can reach the person managing the list at community-ow...@lists.openmoko.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of community digest... Today's Topics: 1. Updated WM8753 routing diagram with ALSA control names (was: Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets?) (Paul Fertser) 2. Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ? (Paul Fertser) 3. Re: Voicenote - new software (Francesco de Virgilio) 4. Re: [SHR Unstable + Qi]: WSOD (Andy Green) 5. Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets? (Andy Green) 6. [ubuntu host] NetworkManager improvements (Joel Newkirk) 7. Re: [ubuntu host] NetworkManager improvements (Denis Johnson) 8. opkg problem (Adam Jimerson) From: Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com Date: February 23, 2009 1:48:56 AM GMT+01:00 To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Updated WM8753 routing diagram with ALSA control names (was: Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets?) Reply-To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com writes: Simon Kagstrom simon.kagst...@gmail.com writes: From looking at the diagram, I think that would make sense at least. I haven't figured out how to affect these still from looking in the state file and in the driver though. I'm going to prepare a routing diagram with alsa control names printed over it real soon (today/tomorrow), as i'm already familiar with the driver code, so it's just work to be done. Man, it was tough: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_audio_subsystem#ALSA_Channels All alsa control names that affect routing are now printed over the diagram. I can provide Inkscape source file on demand. The controls that are not mentioned either affect ADC/DAC in various not routing-related ways (and to use them one most probably needs to look at the datasheet anyway) or affect power management in freerunner-specific way (and therefore their names are self- explanatory). -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com From: Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com Date: February 23, 2009 2:09:45 AM GMT+01:00 To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ? Reply-To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org GNUtoo gnu...@no-log.org writes: it's a bug in the GSM modem's firmware...it can be updated but I advise you against doing it because there is some command to type and if you makes a typo it can brick your gsm modem That's a lie. You can't brick your modem at all, as it has a ROM bootloader. Dedicated person can damage calibration data and that'd be a practically irrecoverable action (CMU-2000 and special soft are needed for calibration). BUT it's not as simple as making a typo. Damaging one's modem by typo is practically impossible, moreover, the new moko11 firmware contains quite an important fixes related to hardware flow control and resuming from call/sms. As it also fixes all known issues with any sim cards, it's worth updating. Okay, I am pretty stuck here. I've tried the procedure on the Wiki here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing and here: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1565196|a1566012 to no effect. I run the fluid command and it just sits there at: Bootloader: (reset target) In the other terminal window, I'm repeatedly doing echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on to no effect. I thought I might have downloaded the firmware in the wrong format (ASCII instead of binary), so I ran file and got : gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-moko11-beta1.m0: Motorola S-Record; binary data in text format So I'm stuck. I don't think I bricked the GSM modem because it doesn't seem like I've uploaded anything to it. Further thoughts or suggestions are most welcome. Any further update on getting this FW into an image ? Thanks, -Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing GSM firmware (was Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?)
2009/2/23 Steve 'dillo Okay armad...@roadknightlabs.com: r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm- gsm.0/power_on r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm- gsm.0/power_on r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo a...@poff /dev/ttySAC0 r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# FLUID_PORT=/dev/ttySAC0 fluid.exe -oo -b 115200 -f /home/root/gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-moko10.m0 FLUID Revision 2.27, (23 Aug 2004). Copyright Texas Instruments, 2001-2004. Reading image file: '/home/root/ gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-moko10.m0' (2138kB) ok Bootloader: (reset target) Help ? How long should I wait for the Bootloader to respond to the s3c24xx- gpio b7=1 command ? Hi Steve, after you see Bootloader: (reset target) you have to do r...@om-gta02:~# s3c24xx-gpio b7=1 in the second session. This worked for me with moko11-b1 :) Best Peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing GSM firmware
Steve \ 'dillo\ Okay armad...@roadknightlabs.com writes: Okay, I am pretty stuck here. I've tried the procedure on the Wiki here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing and here: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1565196|a1566012 to no effect. I run the fluid command and it just sits there at: Bootloader: (reset target) In the other terminal window, I'm repeatedly doing echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on to no effect. I estimate the probability of this not working for the first time as 0.1. So, after the second try it will most certainly work. Are you sure nothing is accessing your modem at that time? Use lsof to check. Also, it's possible that your kernel version has power_on sysfs node in another place, make sure the node actually exists there. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?
Alexander Mueller wrote: Uah, having to run an xserver just for an app being able to run on windows sounds just terrible to me. There are so many cross platform GUI frameworks out there, so why not chose one of these? Just think of the xserver as a windows compatibility layer Macs and linux PCs already have the xserver. An xserver is not such a big piece of software to run on windows either. It certainly isn't a big piece of linux - or it wouldn't fit on a phone too small to run windows. I think the ideal way is to run the settings/config/sms apps on the phone itself. That way, you can do stuff on the phone (config, send sms, etc.) even without a pc. The pc becomes mostly a convenience thing - run the same apps but on a much bigger screen with a real keyboard and mouse. Cut paste between phone apps and pc apps. I.e. paste and URL into a sms and vice-versa. A few things, such a data synchronization with a pc app may need some software to run on the pc. But that sort of thing should be kept to a minimum. When stuff runs on the phone, there will be only one place to update software. So when MMS gets implemented on the phone, you immediately have that capability from the PC too. No waiting for the pc-phone app to catch up! This is what the X protocol is all about - run the software on the machine that makes sense (i.e. the one that actually have gsm hw) and display it on the machine that has the best display (the pc). It already works very well - using cable or using wifi. Want to see the phone filesystem from the pc? The phone can already pretend to be a usb disk. Or you can run samba on it. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM] Less power consumption
Francesco de Virgilio wrote: Little hacks are the reason which pushed me to buy a Neo FreeRunner :D Indeed! Other phones may have more polish. But when you find something that isn't perfect for your need - even the smallest bug - you're stuck! Freerunner tweaks are only limited by how much time I want to spend on them. No other phone can match that. And often enough, someone else does it first, so it is not as if I need so much time either. The power of open source. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM] Less power consumption
Francesco de Virgilio wrote: However, also a good wifi roaming device could be interesting... is there a way to get the SHR unstable connect to open wifi networks around the streets? Install wpa_supplicant. Google around for how you set it up to automatically connect to open networks. You can also set it to auto-connect to all networks for which you know the password. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GPS emergency call standards
Hi, I'm just wondering if there are any open standards for emergency services for location. I'm thinking about services like http://www.steiger-stiftung.de (European, websites in other languages should be available) A SMS to the respective emergency (112, 911) number containing the GPS position could be a start, but then someone has to read it. I would guess there is a standard for a computer readable format. Building a emergency call app would be a nice thing to have. PS: According to Wikipedia, 112 works on all GSM networks no matter if the number is a emergency number in tie state. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [New software] openBmap logger (GSM positioning)
onen...@free.fr wrote: For the moment our position is: We log the cell ids we get connected to. We do not log the neighbour cells. The reason is: if we are far from the cells, we will (maybe, this needs experimentation to my point of view) see the cells even very far. I fear that it would stretch the areas, and thus decrease the precision, nullifying the benefit of recording those additional cells. But, my idea, is to use the neighbour cells, to detect the overlapping region among areas of cells I currently see, to improve the precision. Any comments? You want to find minimum areas for the cells? If so, log neighbour cells but log them as neighbour only . When you compute a cells coverage, only use the points where that cell is primary. Unless the cell only exists as a neighbour in the database. In that case, it provides an approximate position until someone finds its true location. If you try to find position by gsm, then assume you are somewhere inside the area of the primary cell. Then, look at what neighbours you see. If most neighbours detected are on one side of the cell, then assume you are on that edge of the cell. If you see neighbours all around, then you are in the middle. Take special care when there are no neigbours on one side, such as on the coast. Lack of neighbours to one side obviously don't mean you are on the other edge of the cell. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?
Russell Hay wrote: Just FYI - if you use the arrows on either end of the 'submenu' you only get Display Look Screen Input ...but you CAN swipe left or right across them to reveal the additional options.. Damn well hidden though! Indeed. I now found the advanced setting. The non-functional arrows is a bug then. They did sidescroll one step but not the rest - so I was sure there wasn't any more to be found. Now I see Language Advanced Settings Extensions also! Thanks for the tip! Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?
Yorick Moko wrote: I (and surely others) am working on a leaner, faster theme - any eye-candy that distinctly impacts the user experience should NOT be default, and in this case we desperately need a simple and fast theme as the default or the immediate impression users will get is: Damn, this is slow! nice to hear that ugly and fast beats pretty and damn slow any day for me (pretty and fast would also be acceptable ;-)) Pretty and fast should be possible then. There is no need for multiple layers of transparent icons. They can be collapsed into one layer with a single transparent icon, looking _exactly_ the same. Effects when a icon is actually selected is another story, but that sort of thing should not need to impact scrolling. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?
Carl Lobo wrote: Which ones are good candidates? - disable drop shadow - framerate to 25 or 24 (whar is default for movies?) Disabling drop shadow reduced cpu usage for me. But I had to manually rename (could have deleted it) the module.dropshadow.cfg in both /usr/share/enlightenment/config and //home/root/.e/e/config (or similar). After that and restarting the xserver things cpu usage went down to almost zero while idle. And no noticeable effect on the display either, seems it was all for nothing. Seems the can save a little space in the image by not distributing the dropshadow module. Framerate for movies in a cinema is 25 I think. It is 24. TV is usually different. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS emergency call standards
Tilman Baumann wrote: Hi, I'm just wondering if there are any open standards for emergency services for location. I'm thinking about services like http://www.steiger-stiftung.de (European, websites in other languages should be available) A SMS to the respective emergency (112, 911) number containing the GPS position could be a start, but then someone has to read it. I would guess there is a standard for a computer readable format. Building a emergency call app would be a nice thing to have. PS: According to Wikipedia, 112 works on all GSM networks no matter if the number is a emergency number in tie state. If you have the gps coordinates, just tell them over the phone as you make the call. They will use it if they have gps eqipment, which is likely. Automating this seems dangerous in that your SMS to the emergency service is delayed by a few minutes as the phone struggle to get the first fix. When you talk, you can fall back on other descriptions of the place (addresses, road names) if coordinates aren't available. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: NetworkManager works just fine (was: [ubuntu host] NetworkManager improvements)
On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 00:18 -0500, Joel Newkirk wrote: Thanks. With the current Ubuntu there have been problems where NM tries to take control of usb0 despite being told not to, or refuses to follow manual setting within its own GUI, but also it has had problems where it tries to point default route out usb0, or brings eth0 down and back up, or other odd behavior. Lately most of that seems fixed. Well, ubuntu 8.10 works. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#Ubuntu_8.10_-_Easy_Way -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR] Vibration freezes on wake up on call
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, here's my 3 days experience with SHR unstable: to reproduce what appears as a bug, do the follow: - - power on SHR ad wait for loggin on GSM network - - press the Power button to suspend - - take another phone and call the neo - - after waking up, if you close the call without opening it from the Neo, the call GUI closes but the vibration will continue until remove battery. Sometimes vibration continues also after opening the call on the neo after resume, making hard to talk. I've tested this both with uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin and uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r3-om-gta02.bin kernels, with the same rootfs image (shr-lite-image-om-gta02.jffs2). Is it a known issue, a registered bug, or is there a solution? Thanks - -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmj3zcACgkQRi2TsGSC4FaDvQCeOKFtsMUVGiRoXhQ/KlEIiPen lBAAn3IdFRoA/xFCmf8MH7of1hwh0H7o =dFB3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Report on 4.4.3 src on FSO
On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 16:16 +0800, HouYu Li wrote: Hi, Tom. Thank you for you instruction although I haven't try it. And I just made a compile on qtextended snapshot 20090223, no patches applied. And I made a rootfs image and a tarball with the daily build nox rootfs and 2.6.24 kernel (20090223) from downloads.openmoko.org. You can get it here: http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/. I haven't give it a test. I will do it after work today. If anyone would like to try, just download it. Hope it gives you a lot of fun. BTW, what can I get the source code ver 4.4.3. I have tried wiki link, but I didn't find any. Could u please direct me to the right place? Thanks. -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR - latest unstable] endless ringing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joel Newkirk ha scritto: Ergo, the problem appears to be fixed upstream and should arrive in SHR when frameworkd there is updated to match M5 FSO. j And when will this more or less happen, according to your ideas? :) - -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmj4PMACgkQRi2TsGSC4Fb8mwCfXQXZd4F/639dr8aG56I2I692 z7wAnAnk7dAde8V9elThjbHd1UkGAaej =aSQS -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Report on 4.4.3 src on FSO
Daniel.Li escribió: On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 16:16 +0800, HouYu Li wrote: Hi, Tom. Thank you for you instruction although I haven't try it. And I just made a compile on qtextended snapshot 20090223, no patches applied. And I made a rootfs image and a tarball with the daily build nox rootfs and 2.6.24 kernel (20090223) from downloads.openmoko.org. You can get it here: http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/. I haven't give it a test. I will do it after work today. If anyone would like to try, just download it. Hope it gives you a lot of fun. BTW, what can I get the source code ver 4.4.3. I have tried wiki link, but I didn't find any. Could u please direct me to the right place? Thanks. http://qtextended.org/downloads/snapshots/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: problems with special SMS+frameworkd
On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 10:24 +0100, Andreas Kemnade wrote: Hi, I have problems with SMS like created by gammu --sendsms WAPINDICATOR destination URL Title When frameworkd receives such messages from the gsm modem, it gives an exception so no messages are sent to zhone and the message function is not usable. 2009.02.24 09:41:45 dbus.service ERRORUnable to append ([(1, 'read', 'www.fastfoo', '\x11\x06\x01\xae\x02\x05j\x00E\xc6\x0c\x03www.fastfoot.mobi/download/XX/fastfoot.jad\x00\x01\x03FastFoot-Challenge Installation\x00\x01\x01', {'pid': 0, 'type': 'sms-deliver', 'timestamp': 'Sun Feb 22 21:05:49 2009 +0100', 'alphabet': 'binary'})],) to message with signature a(isssa{sv}): type 'exceptions.TypeError': expected string without null bytes 2009.02.24 09:41:45 ogsmd.channel ERRORunhandled exception in response callback: expected string without null bytes Traceback (most recent call last): File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/channel.py, line 380, in handleResponseToRequest ok_cb( reqstring.strip(), response ) File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/mediator.py, line 896, in responseFromChannel self._ok( result ) File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/service.py, line 665, in lambda keywords[return_callback] = lambda *retval: _method_reply_return(connection, message, method_name, signature, *retval) File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/service.py, line 254, in _method_reply_return reply.append(signature=signature, *retval) TypeError: expected string without null bytes This has been fixed in the current git version (which will be released as MS5.1 soon): http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=commit;h=ceef20a8780e2abc96d4f68e49ffb11fd208a0e7 BTW: I cannot create a ticket on https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/newticket: TICKET_CREATE privileges are required to perform this operation You need to create an account to add tickets (for spam protection). -- Jan Lübbe jlue...@lasnet.dehttp://sicherheitsschwankung.de gpg-key 1024D/D8480F2E 2002-03-20 fingerprint 1B25 F91F 9E7B 5D4F 1282 02D6 8A83 8BE4 D848 0F2E ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR - latest unstable] endless ringing
Francesco de Virgilio wrote: Joel Newkirk ha scritto: Ergo, the problem appears to be fixed upstream and should arrive in SHR when frameworkd there is updated to match M5 FSO. j And when will this more or less happen, according to your ideas? :) When you let it ring for about 5 seconds or so, it goes into endless ringing ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?
1. wifi : Wifi Mofi hangs when I run it 3. SHR Panels : some panels in 'Settings' hang when I click on them (GSM/operators for example) 4. Everything is slow Seem better since yesterday evening upgrade, but it still very hard to scroll on desktop. 2. gps : GPS cannot fix I cannot make it working. Hardware is ok since it worked with Om2008.8, timezone/time is good, but no fix... 'telnet localhost 2947' always output same 'empty' data. Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR - latest unstable] endless ringing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pander ha scritto: Francesco de Virgilio wrote: Joel Newkirk ha scritto: Ergo, the problem appears to be fixed upstream and should arrive in SHR when frameworkd there is updated to match M5 FSO. j And when will this more or less happen, according to your ideas? :) When you let it ring for about 5 seconds or so, it goes into endless ringing Thanks Pander, but the question was: When will frameworkd be updated to match FSO M5? :) - -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmj8CIACgkQRi2TsGSC4FZXOgCdEH9RfqqDelIq6LWcNC2SP1az y1YAn2SIWNL/+NJoA2qw1TJS94JZHASp =zk2z -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing GSM firmware
On Feb 24, 2009, at 11:01 , Paul Fertser wrote: Steve \ 'dillo\ Okay armad...@roadknightlabs.com writes: Okay, I am pretty stuck here. I've tried the procedure on the Wiki here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing and here: http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1565196|a1566012 to no effect. I run the fluid command and it just sits there at: Bootloader: (reset target) In the other terminal window, I'm repeatedly doing echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on to no effect. I estimate the probability of this not working for the first time as 0.1. So, after the second try it will most certainly work. Are you sure nothing is accessing your modem at that time? Use lsof to check. Also, it's possible that your kernel version has power_on sysfs node in another place, make sure the node actually exists there. I'm using the fso-console image recommended in the GSM Flashing wiki page. downloaded from here: http://people.openmoko.org/mickey/images/openmoko-fso-console-image- glibc-ipk--20081028-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary http://people.openmoko.org/mickey/images/uImage-2.6.24+r10+gitr75999 +54524f4531c8b262431b794fea610d81bb351c86-r10-om-gta02.bin The /sys/bus/platform entry is a symbolic link to /sys/devices/ platform and contains: r...@om-gta02:/sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0# pwd /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0 r...@om-gta02:/sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0# ls -l -rw-r--r--1 root root 4096 Feb 24 11:05 download lrwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Feb 24 11:05 driver - ../../../bus/platform/drivers/neo1973-pm-gsm -rw-r--r--1 root root 4096 Feb 24 11:05 flowcontrolled -r--r--r--1 root root 4096 Feb 24 11:05 modalias drwxr-xr-x2 root root0 Feb 24 11:05 power -rw-r--r--1 root root 4096 Feb 24 11:05 power_on -rw-r--r--1 root root 4096 Feb 24 11:05 reset lrwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Feb 24 11:05 subsystem - ../../../bus/platform -rw-r--r--1 root root 4096 Feb 24 11:04 uevent r...@om-gta02:/sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0# So it looks like the power_on node is there. The default value at boot of the power_on node is 0. I'll try writing to it directly rather than going through the link, although I don't know why that would make any difference. lsof reveals nothing interesting. I ran the gsm0710muxd start script and it shows that the gsm daemon isn't running: r...@om-gta02:/# /etc/init.d/gsm0710muxd stop no process in pidfile '/var/run/gsm0710muxd.pid' found; none killed r...@om-gta02:/# What you're saying makes sense, i.e. that something is using the GSM modem, but it does look it's shut off. Thanks for your help, Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1
Thanks for your help I installed it, and modified the xorg.conf as described, and I can get no rightclick. I checked 3 times the content of the xorg.conf, and I rebooted. Any application for testing the right-click ? thanks 2009/2/24 Michele Renda michele.re...@gmail.com On 24/02/2009 09:33, kimaidou wrote: Hi I am running the Hackable1, based on debian. I need some help to install right click capabilities on it. Could you please describe step by step how to install and use it ? If it is based on Debian you can follow these steps: Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf Change this Option TslibDevice /dev/input/event1 with this Option Device/dev/input/event1 In the same section add this option: Option EmulateRightButton1 And now... install this: wget http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.5-3.1_armel.deb dpkg --install xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.5-3.1_armel.deb Reboot and enjoy. Ps. if you want to personalize your distro, I think you can take a lot of ideas from here [1] Best regards Michele Renda [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] bluez-utils bluez4
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Carl Lobo carll...@gmail.com wrote: bluez4 provides the 4.x branch of bluez rather than the 3.x branch. It should provide the same functionality, but some bits may work differently. You could try to install without dependencies to see if remoko will work with bluez4. I tried remoko with bluez4 and it keeps saying Waiting for connection from server or something indefinitely.. :(. bluez4 has a different DBus API, maybe it requires some porting? Yup, the DBus API and other things are different in Bluez4, try to run ReMoko through ssh or in a console and paste the output here. Best regards, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Flashing GSM firmware
So fluid is still not flashing the image, but I noticed the following messages on the console after my latest attempt: The error message: rxerr: port ch=0x00, rxs=0x000c shows up in dmesg after I send the command: echo a...@poff /dev/ttySAC0 Looking back through dmesg, this seems to be a pretty consistent error message: modem wakeup interruptresult of echo 1 / sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on rxerr: port ch=0x88, rxs=0x0004 ---result of echo a...@poff / dev/ttySAC0 rxerr: port ch=0x00, rxs=0x000c rxerr: port ch=0x14, rxs=0x0004 rxerr: port ch=0x61, rxs=0x0004 rxerr: port ch=0x12, rxs=0x0004 This happens consistently as a result of the following command sequence: r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 0 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm. 0/power_on r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm. 0/power_on r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# s3c24xx-gpio b7=0 r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo a...@poff /dev/ttySAC0 r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# This is referenced in this bug report: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2180 So it looks like my attempt to apply the fix for this bug may be getting stomped on by the bug itself :) Steve ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help
Ok. thanks for your great help. For now, I choose the simplicity and * use the state files provided with the fr * use the -D plughw:0,0 option to record only a mono file and use -r 8000 to record at 8khZ So my line becomes: arecord -D plughw:0,0 -r 8000 $userfolder/$myname This saves a lot of space : 2MO -- 100 kO for a 10 seconds record. I am about to release version 2 :D 2009/2/22 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 01:30:52PM +0100, kimaidou wrote: Hi guys I have a question : why not just pass the good parameters to arecord so that it recors in 8bit, Mono, 8kHz as : arecord -D hw -f S16_LE -t wav -c 1 -r 8000 myfile.wav $ arecord -D hw -f S16_LE -t wav -c 1 -r 8000 myfile.wav Recording WAVE 'myfile.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono arecord: set_params:923: Channels count non available $ arecord -D hw -f S8 -t wav -c 2 -r 8000 myfile.wav Recording WAVE 'myfile.wav' : Signed 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Stereo arecord: set_params:918: Sample format non available $ arecord -D hw -f U8 -t wav -c 2 -r 8000 myfile.wav Recording WAVE 'myfile.wav' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Stereo arecord: set_params:918: Sample format non available -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
wifi NOT work on fso-image
Dear All, I just downloaded below combination from http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/milestone5/om-gta02/ fso-image-om-gta02.jffs2 + uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin So I login SSH thought USB and wanna try wifi, but get r...@om-gta02:~# iwlist eth0 scan eth0 Interface doesn't support scanning. I have noticed that wifi is working under command IF, see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions How can I fix the problem? Thanks. -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS emergency call standards
Am 24.02.2009 um 12:38 schrieb Helge Hafting: Tilman Baumann wrote: Hi, I'm just wondering if there are any open standards for emergency services for location. I'm thinking about services like http://www.steiger-stiftung.de (European, websites in other languages should be available) A SMS to the respective emergency (112, 911) number containing the GPS position could be a start, but then someone has to read it. I would guess there is a standard for a computer readable format. Building a emergency call app would be a nice thing to have. PS: According to Wikipedia, 112 works on all GSM networks no matter if the number is a emergency number in tie state. If you have the gps coordinates, just tell them over the phone as you make the call. They will use it if they have gps eqipment, which is likely. As log as you are able to do so. I'm more thinking about something like a machine readable side channel paralel to a regular emergency call. BTW. the German ADAC is completely helpless if you provide them GPS coordinates. Automating this seems dangerous in that your SMS to the emergency service is delayed by a few minutes as the phone struggle to get the first fix. When you talk, you can fall back on other descriptions of the place (addresses, road names) if coordinates aren't available. Depends, when a GPS fix is made it will be much more precise and quicker. And there seems to be a standard for cars to make automatic emergency calls on accidents. It is called eCall and no technical information is to be found... :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: wifi NOT work on fso-image
please search the list for wifi and fso milestone5 and you'll find the solution. If your are to lazy for that please follow this link http://n2.nabble.com/-FSO-milestone-5--No-wifi---td2333773ef1958.html#a2333773 2009/2/24 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com: Dear All, I just downloaded below combination from http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/milestone5/om-gta02/ fso-image-om-gta02.jffs2 + uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin So I login SSH thought USB and wanna try wifi, but get r...@om-gta02:~# iwlist eth0 scan eth0 Interface doesn't support scanning. I have noticed that wifi is working under command IF, see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions How can I fix the problem? Thanks. -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS emergency call standards
Tilman Baumann wrote: Am 24.02.2009 um 12:38 schrieb Helge Hafting: Tilman Baumann wrote: Hi, I'm just wondering if there are any open standards for emergency services for location. I'm thinking about services like http://www.steiger-stiftung.de (European, websites in other languages should be available) A SMS to the respective emergency (112, 911) number containing the GPS position could be a start, but then someone has to read it. I would guess there is a standard for a computer readable format. Building a emergency call app would be a nice thing to have. PS: According to Wikipedia, 112 works on all GSM networks no matter if the number is a emergency number in tie state. If you have the gps coordinates, just tell them over the phone as you make the call. They will use it if they have gps eqipment, which is likely. As log as you are able to do so. I'm more thinking about something like a machine readable side channel paralel to a regular emergency call. BTW. the German ADAC is completely helpless if you provide them GPS coordinates. Automating this seems dangerous in that your SMS to the emergency service is delayed by a few minutes as the phone struggle to get the first fix. When you talk, you can fall back on other descriptions of the place (addresses, road names) if coordinates aren't available. Depends, when a GPS fix is made it will be much more precise and quicker. And there seems to be a standard for cars to make automatic emergency calls on accidents. It is called eCall and no technical information is to be found... :) The notification part sending data can be reused with/from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Anti-Theft_Mode Uploading GSM cell info, GPS coordinates, USB IDs, voice recordings, etc. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Voicenote - New version = 0.2
Hi all, I have made some modifications to voicenote : 2009-02-24 - v0.2 2nd version: - GPL license added - the user can select the wave files destination folder at the first startup (and then modify it in the file ~/.voicenote/voicenote.cfg - the wave file is now recorded in mono at 8000 kHz (which saves a lot of CPU and bytes) - addition of comments in the script - the script is called voicenote, and not anymore voicenote.sh You can install it by following the instructions on opkg.org (1) or in the wiki page (2) (1) http://www.opkg.org/package_140.html (2) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Voicenote ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voicenote - New version = 0.2
I forgot to tell : Since I renamed the script from voicenote.sh to voicenote, you have to uninstall the version 0.1 and then install 0.2. You can do it by: opkg remove voicenote --autoremove 2009/2/24 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com Hi all, I have made some modifications to voicenote : 2009-02-24 - v0.2 2nd version: - GPL license added - the user can select the wave files destination folder at the first startup (and then modify it in the file ~/.voicenote/voicenote.cfg - the wave file is now recorded in mono at 8000 kHz (which saves a lot of CPU and bytes) - addition of comments in the script - the script is called voicenote, and not anymore voicenote.sh You can install it by following the instructions on opkg.org (1) or in the wiki page (2) (1) http://www.opkg.org/package_140.html (2) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Voicenote ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OT: iPhone howto
I came across this nice video: http://www.bikinirama.de/img/user/Videos/BIKINIRAMA_iPhone_011_3224.mov Have fun :-) Lothar -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1
The new version works fine here. :) I think there were some issues with fbdev vs. xglamo or so, maybe you could check the wiki page Renda already mentioned... -- Marcel Am Tuesday 24 February 2009 14:14:08 schrieb kimaidou: Thanks for your help I installed it, and modified the xorg.conf as described, and I can get no rightclick. I checked 3 times the content of the xorg.conf, and I rebooted. Any application for testing the right-click ? thanks 2009/2/24 Michele Renda michele.re...@gmail.com On 24/02/2009 09:33, kimaidou wrote: Hi I am running the Hackable1, based on debian. I need some help to install right click capabilities on it. Could you please describe step by step how to install and use it ? If it is based on Debian you can follow these steps: Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf Change this Option TslibDevice /dev/input/event1 with this Option Device/dev/input/event1 In the same section add this option: Option EmulateRightButton1 And now... install this: wget http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.5-3.1_armel.deb dpkg --install xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.5-3.1_armel.deb Reboot and enjoy. Ps. if you want to personalize your distro, I think you can take a lot of ideas from here [1] Best regards Michele Renda [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voicenote - New version = 0.2
kimaidou schrieb: I forgot to tell : Since I renamed the script from voicenote.sh to voicenote, you have to uninstall the version 0.1 and then install 0.2. You can do it by: opkg remove voicenote --autoremove for me updating removes the old files. but i had to change #/bin/bash to #/bin/sh because i had no bash installed. perhaps you could change it, /bin/sh works, too Sebastian 2009/2/24 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com mailto:kimai...@gmail.com Hi all, I have made some modifications to voicenote : 2009-02-24 - v0.2 2nd version: * GPL license added * the user can select the wave files destination folder at the first startup (and then modify it in the file ~/.voicenote/voicenote.cfg * the wave file is now recorded in mono at 8000 kHz (which saves a lot of CPU and bytes) * addition of comments in the script * the script is called voicenote, and not anymore voicenote.sh You can install it by following the instructions on opkg.org http://opkg.org (1) or in the wiki page (2) (1) http://www.opkg.org/package_140.html (2) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Voicenote ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS emergency call standards
Even if the GPS location is not actually got, the phone software in that case could activate GPS automatically. When GPS has a fix the app could assist in taking another call or, if no reaction of the user do it automatically. Navit could be used to locate the city and street near the location and this could be spd-say'ed. The human in danger then only has to accept to do the followup call, nothing more. In case all is fine he/she could dismiss. Doing all the combination of locating and navit, will help in the typical situation one isn't really in the position to 'think' about what to tell to the operator. There are several articles and at least one I have read or have seen about doing emergency calls in carcrash for sample with the car - GPS application. Would that help ? Lothar Am 24.02.2009 um 15:30 schrieb Pander: Tilman Baumann wrote: Am 24.02.2009 um 12:38 schrieb Helge Hafting: Tilman Baumann wrote: Hi, I'm just wondering if there are any open standards for emergency services for location. I'm thinking about services like http://www.steiger-stiftung.de (European, websites in other languages should be available) A SMS to the respective emergency (112, 911) number containing the GPS position could be a start, but then someone has to read it. I would guess there is a standard for a computer readable format. Building a emergency call app would be a nice thing to have. PS: According to Wikipedia, 112 works on all GSM networks no matter if the number is a emergency number in tie state. If you have the gps coordinates, just tell them over the phone as you make the call. They will use it if they have gps eqipment, which is likely. As log as you are able to do so. I'm more thinking about something like a machine readable side channel paralel to a regular emergency call. BTW. the German ADAC is completely helpless if you provide them GPS coordinates. Automating this seems dangerous in that your SMS to the emergency service is delayed by a few minutes as the phone struggle to get the first fix. When you talk, you can fall back on other descriptions of the place (addresses, road names) if coordinates aren't available. Depends, when a GPS fix is made it will be much more precise and quicker. And there seems to be a standard for cars to make automatic emergency calls on accidents. It is called eCall and no technical information is to be found... :) The notification part sending data can be reused with/from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Anti-Theft_Mode Uploading GSM cell info, GPS coordinates, USB IDs, voice recordings, etc. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voicenote - New version = 0.2
2009/2/24 Sebastian Hammerl list-openm...@omoco.de kimaidou schrieb: I forgot to tell : Since I renamed the script from voicenote.sh to voicenote, you have to uninstall the version 0.1 and then install 0.2. You can do it by: opkg remove voicenote --autoremove for me updating removes the old files. but i had to change #/bin/bash to #/bin/sh because i had no bash installed. perhaps you could change it, /bin/sh works, too Sebastian Thanks for your reply. I don't really know why I put bash and not sh. I will change it now and re-upload it fast. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Installing software?
Adam Jimerson wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com mailto:yorickm...@gmail.com wrote: to install programs you can either: *download it on your host pc, scp it to the freerunner and install it *connect the FR to the internet (usb/wifi/bluetooth...) and opkg install something *connect the FR to the internet and use the graphical UI that is included in some distro's like 2008.x a very easy way is to set up usb networking (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking), ssh into your FR, take a look at for example www.opkg.org http://www.opkg.org, and copy paste the code to install something in the terminal when shh'd into the freerunner y Thanks for the quick reply, as of right now I can't connect my freerunner to the internet, I can't launch the settings menu and can't find some kind of command line short of shhing into the phone when it is connected via USB. So: 1. ssh into the phone, presumably from some kind of pc 2. on the pc, open http://opkg.org. Find something you want to install 3. On the opkg.org site, note how the software you want to install has install instructions in the form of one or more commands that start with opkg and then some URL. 4. Copy these instructions from the web browser, paste them into the ssh window. This should work if USB networking is set up properly, so the phone uses the PCs internet connection. (It will also work if you get the phone connected via wifi or gprs.) If you can't get usb networking to work properly: 1. ssh into the phone 2. Open opkg.org in a web browser 3. download the files (ipk or opk files) to the pc 4. copy files from the pc to the phone. Presumably, if you have ssh, you also have scp. The command looks like this, on the pc: scp filename.ipk r...@192.168.0.202: This command is given on the PC, _not_ in the ssh window. 5. The file is now on the phone, but not installed. Use the ssh window, and give this command: opkg install filename.ipk Obviously, use the real filename instead of my example filename.ipk Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Mokogeocaching 0.2 released
This is a litle gtk python script that searches the geocaching.com site for caches near your current position or a user specified lattitude and longitude and add the cache as a poi in tangogps. This is version 0.2 and the code is still not pretty but quite usable. The package kan be found here: http://www.opkg.org/package_141.html Warning: I have only tested it on shr unstable The script can now: get gps location from phone user can manually set location user can specifi range script can download matching geocaches and add as poi read geocaching.com username and password from configuration file threaded gtk and downloading - but unfortunately not searching unicode support gui input for username and password Mokogeocaching works best with tangogps 0.9.6 because of a bug in 0.9.5 where tangogps crashes if a poi is larger than 1500 charaters. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?
Well, I have worked with several X applications on Windows as well as on the Mac and I hated it. You can see its not a native application because the user interface doesnt match the native one. And about a desktop application. To me such a thing isnt jusr a remote frontend for the phone, but rather the place where the data as synced and backed up. As with the palm. You sync your stuff and all your apps and all your data is on the PC. Plug in a new palm device, sync again and your new device is ready to go. I expect the same for every device. Especially with the Openmoko this is true after reflashing the device. Sync is one of the really weak spots of Android and the iPhone (only syncing pim data, syncing only with Google Mail or iTunes). Alex Helge Hafting schrieb: Alexander Mueller wrote: Uah, having to run an xserver just for an app being able to run on windows sounds just terrible to me. There are so many cross platform GUI frameworks out there, so why not chose one of these? Just think of the xserver as a windows compatibility layer Macs and linux PCs already have the xserver. An xserver is not such a big piece of software to run on windows either. It certainly isn't a big piece of linux - or it wouldn't fit on a phone too small to run windows. I think the ideal way is to run the settings/config/sms apps on the phone itself. That way, you can do stuff on the phone (config, send sms, etc.) even without a pc. The pc becomes mostly a convenience thing - run the same apps but on a much bigger screen with a real keyboard and mouse. Cut paste between phone apps and pc apps. I.e. paste and URL into a sms and vice-versa. A few things, such a data synchronization with a pc app may need some software to run on the pc. But that sort of thing should be kept to a minimum. When stuff runs on the phone, there will be only one place to update software. So when MMS gets implemented on the phone, you immediately have that capability from the PC too. No waiting for the pc-phone app to catch up! This is what the X protocol is all about - run the software on the machine that makes sense (i.e. the one that actually have gsm hw) and display it on the machine that has the best display (the pc). It already works very well - using cable or using wifi. Want to see the phone filesystem from the pc? The phone can already pretend to be a usb disk. Or you can run samba on it. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: build fso image erorr
Am Dienstag, den 24.02.2009, 16:58 +0800 schrieb HouYu Li: But Michael, what do you mean by Take a look at the images directory ? I cannot find any directory named images in my fso build dir. The 'images' directory is a subdirectory of the 'packages' directory of OE. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?
Alexander Mueller xelarel...@web.de writes: Especially with the Openmoko this is true after reflashing the device. Why not just rsync your home directory? (And also, I have not reflashed my device for at least 6 months, using debian here..) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GSM Power off
Hi Paul Fertser, thank you for the clarification. greets Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS - how to get lat lon and time from a bash script file ?
Hi all I come back after some tests. I would like to stick on bash script for several reasons (don't want to load another instance of python just to record some sound, etc.). So among your answer, I tried to use one of this line echo p | nc -w1 0 gpsd | tr -d '\r\n' | cut -d'=' -f2 But I got nothing in return. Could you please be more specific : * do I need to start gpsd first * will this work on every distribution, or do I need to change gpsd by fso-gpsd or anything else ? * how do I know I have a fix before using this line ? Thanks in advance ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS - how to get lat lon and time from a bash script file ?
kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com writes: * do I need to start gpsd first Sure, netcat talks to gspd. * will this work on every distribution, or do I need to change gpsd by fso-gpsd or anything else ? It works with anything that speaks the gpsd protocol. * how do I know I have a fix before using this line ? It will return ? when you don't have a fix I think. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: iPhone howto
I came across this nice video: http://www.bikinirama.de/img/user/Videos/BIKINIRAMA_iPhone_011_3224.mov Have fun :-) Lothar What was that about? I don't understand the narrator. The only thing that comes my mind is: JAILBREAKING. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FYP] Is it possible to change DPI?
Hi! I've just tried FYP distribution and it seems very interesting. I've connected to WiFi network without problems and even without command line :) Browser supports SSL so this is definitely a big pros for me. The only thing about FYP is that everything is so small. I can't even hit start menu from the first try. I'm sure it can come with practice, but still, I would like to make it bigger (still talking about DPI here :) ). Does it make any sense? I mean bigger fonts and everything could mess up the whole appearance and usability can descrease instead of increasing. If so, where can change the settings for fonts, buttons, etc... Right now I'm back to shr, so I can't really browse through settings to find out if it's even possible. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: iPhone howto
Call me boring but I don't find funny mindless destruction. Maybe this girl is saying something that makes it funny? I don't speak German :( Leonti On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 6:31 PM, fla...@correo.ugr.es wrote: I came across this nice video: http://www.bikinirama.de/img/user/Videos/BIKINIRAMA_iPhone_011_3224.mov Have fun :-) Lothar What was that about? I don't understand the narrator. The only thing that comes my mind is: JAILBREAKING. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: iPhone howto
I think, the following page explains more about the video's they produce. http://it-republik.de/zonen/portale/psecom,id,99,news,39646,.html Sorry german. They state about the consum and the advertising of the companies to consume more and more. (A mobile phone is out dated after 1-2 years) So after that time you *may* do the same with your device, if the company doesn't offer any useful upgrade or the like. In contrast to this, openmoko gives us the opportunity to keep using the phone. This is simply because we have access to the software and even to the hardware. We don't need to trash our phone into the bin, because we got a new one, it's open so we can reuse it for what ever (servo remote control, remoko, navigation only, ...) I had fun with that video, because I am not that fan of iPhone, it's closed, you only could develop in intel based Mac OS X - as my last information. An advertisement could point that out by visually 'cite' that video and state, our phone is even usable if retired :-) Lothar Am 24.02.2009 um 18:31 schrieb fla...@correo.ugr.es: I came across this nice video: http://www.bikinirama.de/img/user/Videos/BIKINIRAMA_iPhone_011_3224.mov Have fun :-) Lothar What was that about? I don't understand the narrator. The only thing that comes my mind is: JAILBREAKING. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: iPhone howto
This is the translation about what they want to 'tell'. http://de.babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=donett=urlintl=1fr=bf-hometrurl=http%3A%2F%2Fav.rds.yahoo.com%2F_ylt%3DA0geulgzOaRJk0AAbjqTLaMX%3B_ylu%3DX3oDMTBvdmM3bGlxBHBndANhdl93ZWJfcmVzdWx0BHNlYwNzcg--%2FSIG%3D12lm9u62v%2FEXP%3D1235585715%2F**http%253a%2F%2Fit-republik.de%2Fzonen%2Fportale%2Fpsecom%2Cid%2C99%2Cnews%2C39646%2C.htmllp=de_enbtnTrUrl=Übersetzen Am 24.02.2009 um 16:23 schrieb Lothar Behrens: I came across this nice video: http://www.bikinirama.de/img/user/Videos/BIKINIRAMA_iPhone_011_3224.mov Have fun :-) Lothar -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: iPhone howto
Thanks for clarifying. Now it actually makes sense! I'm not fan of iPhone either (on of the reasons I'm proud OM owner :D ) I totally agree with this point of view. Leonti On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de wrote: This is the translation about what they want to 'tell'. http://de.babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=donett=urlintl=1fr=bf-hometrurl=http%3A%2F%2Fav.rds.yahoo.com%2F_ylt%3DA0geulgzOaRJk0AAbjqTLaMX%3B_ylu%3DX3oDMTBvdmM3bGlxBHBndANhdl93ZWJfcmVzdWx0BHNlYwNzcg--%2FSIG%3D12lm9u62v%2FEXP%3D1235585715%2F**http%253a%2F%2Fit-republik.de%2Fzonen%2Fportale%2Fpsecom%2Cid%2C99%2Cnews%2C39646%2C.htmllp=de_enbtnTrUrl=Übersetzen Am 24.02.2009 um 16:23 schrieb Lothar Behrens: I came across this nice video: http://www.bikinirama.de/img/user/Videos/BIKINIRAMA_iPhone_011_3224.mov Have fun :-) Lothar -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 4:54 AM, Andreas Willich andreas_will...@gmx.at wrote: Hi List I am currently developing a PIM synchronization app for the Neo (https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokosync/ http://www.opkg.org/package_134.html ) After a mail from c_c (http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-f528198 ) I got the idea to extend it to an application like the PC Suite app from Nokia. So you can send SMS from your PC, edit the various settings for the different applications (TangoGPS, Navit, ...), install applications and transfer files between PC and Neo. What do you think? Is such an application needed? I was going to post here asking for the same thing! Have you looked at Gammu (http://www.gammu.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page)? It is a sync application compatible with many other phones. It would be nice if we could uset it with freerunner. Regards, Suraj ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: problems with special SMS+frameworkd
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:26:21 +0100 Jan Lübbe jlue...@lasnet.de wrote: On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 10:24 +0100, Andreas Kemnade wrote: This has been fixed in the current git version (which will be released as MS5.1 soon): http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=commit;h=ceef20a8780e2abc96d4f68e49ffb11fd208a0e7 Thanks. BTW: I cannot create a ticket on https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/newticket: TICKET_CREATE privileges are required to perform this operation You need to create an account to add tickets (for spam protection). I also see the string logged in as andi on that page. So I have an account and I'm identified to that system. I also have the verification mail I got when creating that account. So what's going on there? I already tried to create a bug report some time ago. But I had the same problem. Greetings Andreas Kemnade signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1
Hi, On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 14:14 +0100, kimaidou wrote: Any application for testing the right-click ? xev should do the trick. it not a very useful application(at least not for things other than debugging). -- Yours Sebastian Ohl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS - how to get lat lon and time from a bash script file ?
Hi kimaidou, on om 2008.12 do: -1 in settings turn on gps hardware -2 start gpsd (/etc/init.d/gpsd start) -3 read the gps data (gpspipe -r) To check if you have a fix, you might want to clean out the lines that have no lat/long info like this: gpspipe -r | grep GPGGA | grep -v ',,' And to get it in a human readable format you can use gpspipe -r | dd count=20 | gpsbabel -i nmea -f - -o gpx -F - Please read the man pages of gpsd, gpspipe, dd and gpsbabel, they are good starting points for learning bash scripting. For me echo p | nc -w1 0 gpsd is *not* working. Kind regards, Ed kimaidou wrote: Hi all I come back after some tests. I would like to stick on bash script for several reasons (don't want to load another instance of python just to record some sound, etc.). So among your answer, I tried to use one of this line echo p | nc -w1 0 gpsd | tr -d '\r\n' | cut -d'=' -f2 But I got nothing in return. Could you please be more specific : * do I need to start gpsd first * will this work on every distribution, or do I need to change gpsd by fso-gpsd or anything else ? * how do I know I have a fix before using this line ? Thanks in advance ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-ustable] gprs is also unstable
Hello community, unstableness of SHR(which name claims stability) follows with instablity of GPRS connection. Several minutes and it is over, you have to restart it manually. Does anyone else experience this? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: iPhone howto
Maybe this girl is saying something that makes it funny? I don't speak German :( even if you did -- it won't get neither funny nor sensible. the interview lothar linked to is boring and brainless -- just like the video ... by combination of the weapon of a beautiful woman [ie sexiness -- my clarification] and the traditional weapon of men, brutal force, bikinirama takes action against social conventions. the most dangerous weapon of bikinirama is called 'wit'. (german 'geist' is one of these terms one hardly can translate adequately in one single word -- like 'kultur' or 'zeitgeist') ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?
Excellent point. The Agenda PDA used this method of syncing or backing up. Well I use rsync a lot. But it is rather a one-way backup tool than a two way sync tool that takes care of collision resolving. Alex Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb: Alexander Mueller xelarel...@web.de writes: Especially with the Openmoko this is true after reflashing the device. Why not just rsync your home directory? (And also, I have not reflashed my device for at least 6 months, using debian here..) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: HELP: sim card not registering...
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 09:25:50PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Hi, I'm switching operator and today I got m y new sim card. The current one will stop working in a few work days, so I'm desperate (YES, I use the Freerunner as my main day to day phone): it's not registering. I followed these instructions and they worked flawlessly: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing Where this not enough? Where this not correct even though it worked? Please help... Well, a Nokia and an Ericcsson phone don't load it either so maybe the SIM card is borked. Ah well... I had a similar situation where a prevously working SIM card stopped working in any phone, after being left in a Freerunner for about a month. Is it possible that the Freerunner is somehow destroying SIM cards (heat, over voltage etc?) The SIM card had previously worked fine in three different Nokia phones, then I put it in my Freerunner, and used it successfully for some calls and text messages. I then got busy with other things so I left my Freerunner on charge but not in use for about a month. After this period I found that the SIM card no longer worked in any phone. In my case, my operator (Orange UK) was happy to send me a replacement. -- David Pottage ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] bluez-utils bluez4
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Valerio Valerio vdv...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Carl Lobo carll...@gmail.com wrote: bluez4 provides the 4.x branch of bluez rather than the 3.x branch. It should provide the same functionality, but some bits may work differently. You could try to install without dependencies to see if remoko will work with bluez4. I tried remoko with bluez4 and it keeps saying Waiting for connection from server or something indefinitely.. :(. bluez4 has a different DBus API, maybe it requires some porting? Yup, the DBus API and other things are different in Bluez4, try to run ReMoko through ssh or in a console and paste the output here. Best regards, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org When i run remoko with bluez4 installed it says this: r...@neo ~ $ DISPLAY=:0 remoko warning: x11-16 is not supported, fallback to x11 dbus_objectInit... /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py:242: DeprecationWarning: object.__init__() takes no parameters super(Connection, self).__init__(*args, **kwargs) could not create proxy for org.openmoko.accelges:/org/openmoko/accelges/Recognizer org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.openmoko.accelges was not provided by any .service files error in proxy failcount= 0 dbus_objectInit... usage ok Interface ProxyObject wrapping dbus._dbus.SystemBus (system) at 0x29ef90 :1.10 /org/freesmartphone/Usage at 0x29f9d0 implementing 'org.freesmartphone.Usage' at 0x29fc10 failcount= 0 Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/share/remoko/remoko/remoko, line 2103, in module gui = GUI( options, args ) File /usr/share/remoko/remoko/remoko, line 1537, in __init__ self.initialize_remoko_server() File /usr/share/remoko/remoko/remoko, line 1609, in initialize_remoko_server self.connection = Connect() File /usr/share/remoko/remoko/remoko_server.py, line 43, in __init__ self.input = dbus.Interface(bus_input.get_object('org.bluez', '/org/bluez/service_input'), 'org.bluez.Service') File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py, line 244, in get_object follow_name_owner_changes=follow_name_owner_changes) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py, line 241, in __init__ self._named_service = conn.activate_name_owner(bus_name) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py, line 183, in activate_name_owner self.start_service_by_name(bus_name) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py, line 281, in start_service_by_name 'su', (bus_name, flags))) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py, line 622, in call_blocking message, timeout) dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.bluez was not provided by any .service files yours Jake ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GUI responsiveness (was Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?)
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:32:09 +0100 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Yorick Moko wrote: I (and surely others) am working on a leaner, faster theme - any eye-candy that distinctly impacts the user experience should NOT be default, and in this case we desperately need a simple and fast theme as the default or the immediate impression users will get is: Damn, this is slow! nice to hear that ugly and fast beats pretty and damn slow any day for me (pretty and fast would also be acceptable ;-)) Pretty and fast should be possible then. There is no need for multiple layers of transparent icons. They can be collapsed into one layer with a single transparent icon, looking _exactly_ the same. Effects when a icon is actually selected is another story, but that sort of thing should not need to impact scrolling. Helge Hafting Therein lies the problem, in a sense. (or a large part of it) With the default.edj theme (Illume doesn't override it for Fileman, which includes Illume icons) every icon on the 'desktop' initially displays just the icon image, be it png, jpg, animated edj, whatever. When you touch the screen to scroll it, it will highlight the touched icon even if you don't actually select it. When it highlights it, it makes visible a 'background' png behind the icon, and two or three layers of transparent pngs on top of the icon, to give the 'glass button with an icon embedded in it' effect. Even when not visible (IE, on at least all but one icon at a time) those extra pngs are there, their positions are calculated AFAIK and their bitmaps are loaded. (again, AFAIK - those two are internals of Enlightenment and I'm guessing) But to make the user experience worse, whenever those extra pngs are made visible or invisible, it uses an animated fade-in/fade-out. So every time you drag to scroll, it's busy animating a fade-out on the previously highlighted icon, animating a fade-in on the one under your finger, and scrolling all the transparent and invisible PNGs. The effect is quite attractive, if only the FR had the horsepower to manage it while running a phone, GPS, and frameworkd. :( With the present state of my altered Illume theme (serenity.edj) I've trimmed the icons down to just the 'icon' image itself and a single png that appears behind it when highlighted. Outside the theme itself I've disabled dropshadows and changed rendering, and disabled the battery applet display (pending debugging - it sucks CPU apparently) and it reduced Enlightenment cpu usage dramatically. But I found significant further savings by tweaking icons. I've been using some Oxygen icons, and because I always have the launcher at 'extra large' (3 icons across in portrait) I started out with the 256x256 oxygen icons. Which are beautiful, but suck resources like crazy. I figured changing to 128x128 would help but the problem was almost exactly the same, while it looked worse on screen. So I did some investigating and testing and found that if I prescale my icons to the actual displayed size on the FR it responds great. In this case, that's 116x116 pixels. (that's the icon itself at 'extra large' - Illume displays the name below that, and the two of them are in IIRC a 162x142 tile) So by prescaling to 116x116 pixel icons in Gimp I get the same memory and CPU (hence UI responsiveness) as with much smaller (blotchier after scaling) images. 'Large' launcher icons appear to be 76x76, and 'medium' 36x36. This is theme-dependent though, as well as preferences dependent - within the edje theme they can be scaled or resized or whatever. So a prepackaged icon theme would probably need to be scaled to match a particular Illume theme's resulting sizes... Even then, if the user has utilized the useful 'scaling' settings it will probably differ. Still pondering the best answer here. So right now, with the rescaled icons, removing excess icon adornments, and disabling dropshadows and battery the SHR Illume is /almost/ as smooth scrolling as 2008.x. I also found that disabling animation of the slipshelf drop-down etc helped significantly in making it feel more responsive. Overall, it feels like a completely different phone when I switch back to the Illume theme. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] bluez-utils bluez4
When i run remoko with bluez4 installed it says this: r...@neo ~ $ DISPLAY=:0 remoko warning: x11-16 is not supported, fallback to x11 dbus_objectInit... /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py:242: DeprecationWarning: object.__init__() takes no parameters super(Connection, self).__init__(*args, **kwargs) could not create proxy for org.openmoko.accelges:/org/openmoko/accelges/Recognizer org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.openmoko.accelges was not provided by any .service files error in proxy failcount= 0 dbus_objectInit... usage ok Interface ProxyObject wrapping dbus._dbus.SystemBus (system) at 0x29ef90 :1.10 /org/freesmartphone/Usage at 0x29f9d0 implementing 'org.freesmartphone.Usage' at 0x29fc10 failcount= 0 Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/share/remoko/remoko/remoko, line 2103, in module gui = GUI( options, args ) File /usr/share/remoko/remoko/remoko, line 1537, in __init__ self.initialize_remoko_server() File /usr/share/remoko/remoko/remoko, line 1609, in initialize_remoko_server self.connection = Connect() File /usr/share/remoko/remoko/remoko_server.py, line 43, in __init__ self.input = dbus.Interface(bus_input.get_object('org.bluez', '/org/bluez/service_input'), 'org.bluez.Service') File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py, line 244, in get_object follow_name_owner_changes=follow_name_owner_changes) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py, line 241, in __init__ self._named_service = conn.activate_name_owner(bus_name) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py, line 183, in activate_name_owner self.start_service_by_name(bus_name) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py, line 281, in start_service_by_name 'su', (bus_name, flags))) File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py, line 622, in call_blocking message, timeout) dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.bluez was not provided by any .service files yours Jake I'm sorry this output seems to come from my bluetooth not working. I probabably messted something up with all that bluez-utils and bluez4 installing and removing.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?
On Tuesday 24 February 2009, Alexander Mueller wrote: Excellent point. The Agenda PDA used this method of syncing or backing up. Well I use rsync a lot. But it is rather a one-way backup tool than a two way sync tool that takes care of collision resolving. Have you tried Unison? It does two way sync with conflict flagging, and works across platforms. Alex Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb: Alexander Mueller xelarel...@web.de writes: Especially with the Openmoko this is true after reflashing the device. Why not just rsync your home directory? (And also, I have not reflashed my device for at least 6 months, using debian here..) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: iPhone howto
I came across this nice video: http://www.bikinirama.de/img/user/Videos/BIKINIRAMA_iPhone_011_3224.mov Have fun :-) Lothar What was that about? I don't understand the narrator. The only thing that comes my mind is: JAILBREAKING. jailbreaking is the first step... Then you need to install GNU/Linux on it(or wait for it beeing ready for your use) but some problem that are hardware related remain such as: *no replacable battery *(I don't like touchscreen that can't be used with a stylus...) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Revealing/Hiding my caller id
Indeed I have the same question for SHR now : how can I reveal or hide my phone number to my correspondents ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: iPhone howto
Whaaat? iPhone touchscreen can't be used with a stylus?? What is it, heat sensitive or something? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Lack of structured information
Hi all, Since several months I'm trying to do some constructive development on my FreeRunner, but unfortunately I find myself spending way more time on finding trivial information compared to the time spent on actual coding. I'm not looking for extensive manuals or generic linux info, just looking for minimalistic information which is specific to the FR. - e.g. sysfs is supposed to be an interface between kernelspace and userspace, so I would expect it to be documented for at least the basics. - lack of changelogs for downloads, including kernels, filesystem-images, srctarballs etc. When using a modern tracking system, changelogs do not present an additional effort, they are automatically generated from commit messages and are generated out-of-the-box and provide extremely valuable information to users / other developers. To give just one example: A simple question like 'is my FR running from battery, USB or wallcharger ?'. With the recent kernel changes, most of these seem to have changed, but where are these documented ? In order to find the answer, I had to check the kernel sourcecode, google, and do some trial error tests . And even now I'm not sure I have it 100% correct. what I found: in /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-mbc/ there is a power_supply:ac , power_supply:adapter and power_supply:usb usb is clear, but I'm still not sure I correctly understand the difference between 'adapter' and 'ac'. I would expect OpenMoko to at least document the different files/Attributes which are platform dependant, and a changelog to indicate important changes having impact on userland applications / interfaces as well as known bugs (like the current usb crashes XP bug). sorry for my rantings, but I would love to code contribute, not to spent hours looking for some basic information... Cheers, Filip. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing CellHunter (Update 0.4.1)
Soon after releasing i found a bug causes cellhunter to freeze. Sorry for that, the fixed version 0.4.1 is out now! check out http://cellhunter.omoco.de Sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: iPhone howto
It's capacitive. It responds only to human finger or special big-ass stylus. In both cases you can't get that kind of precision you can get with resistive touchscreen(like in openmoko). Leonti On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 11:17 PM, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: Whaaat? iPhone touchscreen can't be used with a stylus?? What is it, heat sensitive or something? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: iPhone howto
On Tuesday 24 February 2009, The Digital Pioneer wrote: Whaaat? iPhone touchscreen can't be used with a stylus?? What is it, heat sensitive or something? Capacitive. Doesn't work with a stylus, fingernail or gloves. Not good if you have particularly dry fingertips either. The G1 has the same problem. You can get a special stylus for them, but the tip's about the size of a small fingertip. The advantage is you can use a relatively robust glass screen that's more pocket-proof than a resistive screen like the one on the OM. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?
Xavier Cremaschi wrote: I cannot make it working. Hardware is ok since it worked with Om2008.8, timezone/time is good, but no fix... 'telnet localhost 2947' always output same 'empty' data. Someone recently (2 weeks ago or so) posted some steps to solve this. Unfortunately I didn't bookmark it and I can't look for it right now. Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Lack of structured information
Your points are good and you have defined a good area to pay atention sysfs ,but you have to consider that .28 kernels are not being adopted by any official Openmoko release yet, but start working on a wiki draft of 2.6.28 sysfs is a pretty good idea. 2009/2/24 Filip Onkelinx fi...@linux4.be: Hi all, Since several months I'm trying to do some constructive development on my FreeRunner, but unfortunately I find myself spending way more time on finding trivial information compared to the time spent on actual coding. I'm not looking for extensive manuals or generic linux info, just looking for minimalistic information which is specific to the FR. - e.g. sysfs is supposed to be an interface between kernelspace and userspace, so I would expect it to be documented for at least the basics. - lack of changelogs for downloads, including kernels, filesystem-images, srctarballs etc. When using a modern tracking system, changelogs do not present an additional effort, they are automatically generated from commit messages and are generated out-of-the-box and provide extremely valuable information to users / other developers. To give just one example: A simple question like 'is my FR running from battery, USB or wallcharger ?'. With the recent kernel changes, most of these seem to have changed, but where are these documented ? In order to find the answer, I had to check the kernel sourcecode, google, and do some trial error tests . And even now I'm not sure I have it 100% correct. what I found: in /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-mbc/ there is a power_supply:ac , power_supply:adapter and power_supply:usb usb is clear, but I'm still not sure I correctly understand the difference between 'adapter' and 'ac'. I would expect OpenMoko to at least document the different files/Attributes which are platform dependant, and a changelog to indicate important changes having impact on userland applications / interfaces as well as known bugs (like the current usb crashes XP bug). sorry for my rantings, but I would love to code contribute, not to spent hours looking for some basic information... Cheers, Filip. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] Enlightenment doesn't want to run anymore
no one has any idea what the segfault could be caused from? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: iPhone howto
Hmm, interesting. Well, I have to agree with GNUtoo. Not worth the tradeoff, IMO. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] Enlightenment doesn't want to run anymore
Flyin_bbb8 wrote: no one has any idea what the segfault could be caused from? I haven't seen the original mail but it's most likely a botched update/missing library or incompatible library/binary. Make sure you're not mixing repos and/or stick to a stable branch. Reflash is all I can suggest. Good luck. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Qi) Qi or bust, or: what do I do wrong?
Paul wrote: roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote: When I feel adventurous again (and I have more time again), I may play with it some more. Well when you do, remove your SD card first. I'm almost positive you would have at least been able to boot otherwise. ... My problem can be fixed with a few text files though :) My problem was fixed by putting u-boot back. :-) Of course :) ... TBH I prefer u-boot, mainly because I know how to customise it and tri-boot with ease :) But thank you for the tips, I can use them next time I feel up to Qi! I think Qi will be great once I've decided on a specific distro and I don't have the requirement of needing to select a different one on a regular basis. The boot speed is negligible when you have to keep removing the battery due to the wrong kernel loading :) Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: HELP: sim card not registering...
read this post : http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-fn1958 http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-fn1958 Maybe its a serious hardware bug/fault here! What's the manuf.date of your Freerunner? chris -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/HELP%3A-sim-card-not-registering...-tp2365357p2381183.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] Enlightenment doesn't want to run anymore
here's the original mail i installed were pythm , mplayer then i uninstalled them, after a reboot the screen shows starting atd daemon:atd. last thing and nothing after, i tried running /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm start, and looked at log in /tmp/x.log # RUN INIT: /usr/bin/enlightenment_init '/usr/share/enlightenment/data/init/illume_init.edj' '1' '0' 'Enlightenment' '0.16.999.050' # Segmentation fault # ESTART: 1.77762 [0.95707] - test file format support # run-parts: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90xXWindowManager exited with code 1011 # waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE built-ins refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. this is with illume as default_profile, i change that to ASU and i get the following, i can see the booting screen with the green bar for around 0.2 second then back to the atd , now /tmp/x.log shows # RUN INIT: /usr/bin/enlightenment_init '/usr/share/enlightenment/data/init/asu_init.edj' '4' '0' 'Enlightenment' '0.16.999.050' # ESTART: 2.46682 [1.61394] - test file format support # run-parts: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90xXWindowManager exited with code 1011 # waiting for X server to shut down E17 INIT: XINERAMA CHOSEN: [0], 480x640+0+0 # FreeFontPath: FPE built-ins refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. where can i go from here!? another thing worth mentioning is that couple of days ago the thing stopped at starting atd daemon:atd. again but Xglamo wasn't starting, i went to check /usr/bin/Xglamo to find that it's 0 bytes!, i just scp a new one from a 2008.12.tar.gz back to freerunner and it worked again. and no i only added angstrom repo to install mplayer then removed it , i wonder what 1011 exit code means? # run-parts: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90xXWindowManager exited with code 1011 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing CellHunter (Update 0.4.1)
Hello. On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 23:38, Sebastian Hammerl wrote: Soon after releasing i found a bug causes cellhunter to freeze. Sorry for that, the fixed version 0.4.1 is out now! Bugfix releases are always good. Pushed and the autobuilder should take care that it pops up in the feed the next hours. BTW, during the build I get some QA comments from bitbake about the desktop file. Perhaps worth to fix, not critical though. ERROR: QA Issue: /home/stefan/Projekte/OpenEmbedded/build/openmoko/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/cellhunter-0.4.1-r0/install/cellhunter/usr/share/applications/cellhunter.desktop: warning: key Encoding in group Desktop Entry is deprecated ERROR: QA Issue: /home/stefan/Projekte/OpenEmbedded/build/openmoko/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/cellhunter-0.4.1-r0/install/cellhunter/usr/share/applications/cellhunter.desktop: warning: value cellhunter.png for key Icon in group Desktop Entry is an icon name with an extension, but there should be no extension as described in the Icon Theme Specification if the value is not an absolute path ERROR: QA Issue: /home/stefan/Projekte/OpenEmbedded/build/openmoko/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/cellhunter-0.4.1-r0/install/cellhunter/usr/share/applications/cellhunter.desktop: error: value Applications for string list key Categories in group Desktop Entry does not have a semicolon (';') as trailing character ERROR: QA Issue: /home/stefan/Projekte/OpenEmbedded/build/openmoko/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/cellhunter-0.4.1-r0/install/cellhunter/usr/share/applications/cellhunter.desktop: error: file contains key SingleInstance in group Desktop Entry, but keys extending the format should start with X- regards Stefan Schmidt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[All] TangoGPS 0.9.6 package?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi list, where can I get TangoGPS 0.9.6 packaged? Thanks - -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmkjVYACgkQRi2TsGSC4FaVIQCdGGaD2fmHuWlYIbcTKFgLSlmw +ZsAniwvqB7zjDijNDgiSGYN4q+Hpb27 =yoiO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing CellHunter (Update 0.4.1)
Stefan Schmidt schrieb: Hello. On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 23:38, Sebastian Hammerl wrote: Soon after releasing i found a bug causes cellhunter to freeze. Sorry for that, the fixed version 0.4.1 is out now! Bugfix releases are always good. Pushed and the autobuilder should take care that it pops up in the feed the next hours. BTW, during the build I get some QA comments from bitbake about the desktop file. Perhaps worth to fix, not critical though. ERROR: QA Issue: /home/stefan/Projekte/OpenEmbedded/build/openmoko/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/cellhunter-0.4.1-r0/install/cellhunter/usr/share/applications/cellhunter.desktop: warning: key Encoding in group Desktop Entry is deprecated ERROR: QA Issue: /home/stefan/Projekte/OpenEmbedded/build/openmoko/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/cellhunter-0.4.1-r0/install/cellhunter/usr/share/applications/cellhunter.desktop: warning: value cellhunter.png for key Icon in group Desktop Entry is an icon name with an extension, but there should be no extension as described in the Icon Theme Specification if the value is not an absolute path ERROR: QA Issue: /home/stefan/Projekte/OpenEmbedded/build/openmoko/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/cellhunter-0.4.1-r0/install/cellhunter/usr/share/applications/cellhunter.desktop: error: value Applications for string list key Categories in group Desktop Entry does not have a semicolon (';') as trailing character ERROR: QA Issue: /home/stefan/Projekte/OpenEmbedded/build/openmoko/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/cellhunter-0.4.1-r0/install/cellhunter/usr/share/applications/cellhunter.desktop: error: file contains key SingleInstance in group Desktop Entry, but keys extending the format should start with X- i will take care of it in the next release, i think its not worth enough for its own :) regards Stefan Schmidt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] Enlightenment doesn't want to run anymore
Flyin_bbb8 wrote: here's the original mail i installed were pythm , mplayer then i uninstalled them, after a reboot the screen shows starting atd daemon:atd. last thing and nothing after, i tried running /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm start, and looked at log in /tmp/x.log # RUN INIT: /usr/bin/enlightenment_init '/usr/share/enlightenment/ data/init/illume_init.edj' '1' '0' 'Enlightenment' '0.16.999.050' # Segmentation fault # ESTART: 1.77762 [0.95707] - test file format support [...snip...] # run-parts: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90xXWindowManager exited with code 1011 and no i only added angstrom repo to install mplayer then removed it , i wonder what 1011 exit code means? # run-parts: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90xXWindowManager exited with code 1011 Unfortunately I don't have the time to trace your error. This is probably a question only a dev could answer or someone with intimate knowledge of rc components. My best guess would be that either your config is causing a problem (something along the lines of rm -r ~/.e may fix ... or maybe more xserver specific configs) or something from angstrom was pulled in and not removed or overwritten. If you are getting a segfault then the latter is probably more likely. In the end, when playing with repositories outside the control of OM, you have to be prepared to reflash or delve deep to clean up the mess, if one occurs. Good luck! Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?
Hi guys, I received the Freerunner today and I went trough the same issues with a 128KB Vodafone SIM. All you have to do is to follow (as suggested) _carefully_ this guide [0] and I can confirm that your brad new vodafone SIM will start working properly. Bye, Takke [0] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Recommended-SIM-for-Italy---tp2367876p2381326.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Squashfs module for newer kernels
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Simple question, why did the squashfs kernel module disappear in the | 2.6.28/29 builds. It was there for .24? | | Can it be brought back? I spent a weekend of CPU time building a | smallish image of the English wikipedia, only to find I cannot use it on | the moko :) I added this as a module to the default configs, but actually we don't directly control the config used for packaging kernels in a given distro. I hope people are basing it off arch/arm/configs/gta02_packaging_defconfig in which case packages built from now on will have the module. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmklS0ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMrH+gCfaxGGYfwzIrR8FfSpy9BAvteX 9WwAn1LBg56VIze16T0hoH/FDHuXQgAG =nddi -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Lack of structured information
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Your points are good and you have defined a good area to pay atention | sysfs ,but you have to consider that .28 kernels are not being adopted | by any official Openmoko release yet, but start working on a wiki | draft of 2.6.28 sysfs is a pretty good idea. For 2.6.24 kernels I started this page and it has been added to by others: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs so there's a good deal of structured information there specific to sysfs. You can find it by just searching sysfs in the Wiki. Stuff changed along with suspend - resume fixed and driver rewrites in the last couple of kernel versions. I posted a mapping for 2.6.28 here http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1569863 Some of these are changing slightly as we go on. So we will update the sysfs wiki page with the new ones soon. But, you shouldn't take that there is no documentation about sysfs, all the important guys are on that page. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmkl5kACgkQOjLpvpq7dMrnzwCgh3NRT1QDgpMu+W0BSzQBVZYC azcAni18kPsQdv4fGEKkSmX/ZvwsvDUm =hnJR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Lack of structured information
More over, the idea of the FSO odeviced API is that you no longer need to worry about sysfs paths anyways. If there's something you are missing, toss us a mail to smartphones-standa...@linuxtogo.org :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GUI responsiveness (was Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?)
Sounds amazing. But where can we get the serenity.edj theme??? On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 5:18 AM, Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us wrote: On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:32:09 +0100 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Yorick Moko wrote: I (and surely others) am working on a leaner, faster theme - any eye-candy that distinctly impacts the user experience should NOT be default, and in this case we desperately need a simple and fast theme as the default or the immediate impression users will get is: Damn, this is slow! nice to hear that ugly and fast beats pretty and damn slow any day for me (pretty and fast would also be acceptable ;-)) Pretty and fast should be possible then. There is no need for multiple layers of transparent icons. They can be collapsed into one layer with a single transparent icon, looking _exactly_ the same. Effects when a icon is actually selected is another story, but that sort of thing should not need to impact scrolling. Helge Hafting Therein lies the problem, in a sense. (or a large part of it) With the default.edj theme (Illume doesn't override it for Fileman, which includes Illume icons) every icon on the 'desktop' initially displays just the icon image, be it png, jpg, animated edj, whatever. When you touch the screen to scroll it, it will highlight the touched icon even if you don't actually select it. When it highlights it, it makes visible a 'background' png behind the icon, and two or three layers of transparent pngs on top of the icon, to give the 'glass button with an icon embedded in it' effect. Even when not visible (IE, on at least all but one icon at a time) those extra pngs are there, their positions are calculated AFAIK and their bitmaps are loaded. (again, AFAIK - those two are internals of Enlightenment and I'm guessing) But to make the user experience worse, whenever those extra pngs are made visible or invisible, it uses an animated fade-in/fade-out. So every time you drag to scroll, it's busy animating a fade-out on the previously highlighted icon, animating a fade-in on the one under your finger, and scrolling all the transparent and invisible PNGs. The effect is quite attractive, if only the FR had the horsepower to manage it while running a phone, GPS, and frameworkd. :( With the present state of my altered Illume theme (serenity.edj) I've trimmed the icons down to just the 'icon' image itself and a single png that appears behind it when highlighted. Outside the theme itself I've disabled dropshadows and changed rendering, and disabled the battery applet display (pending debugging - it sucks CPU apparently) and it reduced Enlightenment cpu usage dramatically. But I found significant further savings by tweaking icons. I've been using some Oxygen icons, and because I always have the launcher at 'extra large' (3 icons across in portrait) I started out with the 256x256 oxygen icons. Which are beautiful, but suck resources like crazy. I figured changing to 128x128 would help but the problem was almost exactly the same, while it looked worse on screen. So I did some investigating and testing and found that if I prescale my icons to the actual displayed size on the FR it responds great. In this case, that's 116x116 pixels. (that's the icon itself at 'extra large' - Illume displays the name below that, and the two of them are in IIRC a 162x142 tile) So by prescaling to 116x116 pixel icons in Gimp I get the same memory and CPU (hence UI responsiveness) as with much smaller (blotchier after scaling) images. 'Large' launcher icons appear to be 76x76, and 'medium' 36x36. This is theme-dependent though, as well as preferences dependent - within the edje theme they can be scaled or resized or whatever. So a prepackaged icon theme would probably need to be scaled to match a particular Illume theme's resulting sizes... Even then, if the user has utilized the useful 'scaling' settings it will probably differ. Still pondering the best answer here. So right now, with the rescaled icons, removing excess icon adornments, and disabling dropshadows and battery the SHR Illume is /almost/ as smooth scrolling as 2008.x. I also found that disabling animation of the slipshelf drop-down etc helped significantly in making it feel more responsive. Overall, it feels like a completely different phone when I switch back to the Illume theme. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Programmer Red Hat Certified Engineer 15th Feb, 2008 Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] bluez-utils bluez4
You need bluetoothd started (in bluez4) for org.bluez to be available on dbus. ps ax | grep bluetoothd | grep -v grep should tell you if it's running. Mine just kept saying something like Waiting for connection from remoko-server in an endless loop even after I pressed control-c. I had to kill -9 the process. Maybe the remoko server isn't compatible with bluez4? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?
Is fso-gpsd running? Try restarting it from Settings/Services. GPS seems to be working fine for me with my last update on Monday.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GUI responsiveness (was Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?)
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:19:37 +0800 HouYu Li kara...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds amazing. But where can we get the serenity.edj theme??? Nowhere right now, I'm working on it. I've gotten a few thing just how I want them, others as yet untouched, and occasional bugs. Started with illume.edj, imported some pieces of default.edj to make overriding them easier, and started in changing the look. Probably 2/3 done now, but I've kept restarting as I changed from 2008.x to FSO to SHR and so on and kept resyncing my changes to the newest Illume changes. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community