Re: [QtExtended] Report on 4.4.3 src on FSO

2009-02-24 Thread HouYu Li
Hi, Tom. Thank you for you instruction although I haven't try it. And I just
made a compile on qtextended snapshot 20090223, no patches applied. And I
made a rootfs image and a tarball with the daily build nox rootfs and 2.6.24
kernel (20090223) from downloads.openmoko.org. You can get it here:
http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/. I haven't give it a test.
I will do it after work today. If anyone would like to try, just download
it. Hope it gives you a lot of fun.

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Tomas Riveros Schober
trive...@enable.clwrote:

 Yes usb networking is running after the second reboot.
 to fix the echo you have to patch it according to

 http://www.csamuel.org/2009/01/08/echo-suppression-fix-for-qt-extended-442-on-openmoko-neo
 (or just download the patched binary)

 Tom

 HouYu Li escribió:
  I am also able to build the latest qt-extended snapshots. Is the usb0
  network running? I am not able to get it work. And .. the phone
  echo is still not fixed..
 
  On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Ali alish...@interchange.ubc.ca
  mailto:alish...@interchange.ubc.ca wrote:
 
  Very nice! Ever since I saw it on mwester's page i've been wanting
  to do
  this, but ran into an error and haven't had know how/time to
  investigate. I love the pim features of qt extended but the lack of
  packages make it quite boring. Is it possible to run an xserver
  simultaneously so I can run other applications than qt ones? I would
  really appreciate a jffs2 image of the rootfs. Mwester has stuff at
  http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#qtx_on_fso but I think it's
  somewhat old
  now and it didn't work when I last tried it.
 
 
 
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Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1

2009-02-24 Thread kimaidou
Hi

I am running the Hackable1, based on debian. I need some help to install
right click capabilities on it. Could you please describe step by step how
to install and use it ?

thanks in advance

Kimaidou

2009/2/24 Michele Renda michele.re...@gmail.com

 I don't know what you did on tslib patch, but now it is running very
 very well.

 I can now do a right click only with my finger too.
 It is perfect. We can proceed foo canonization? :)

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Wolfson WM8753 alsa mapping

2009-02-24 Thread Candy Chou
Hi ,

This is Openmoko HW engineer Candy in Taipei. We're working on the
wm8753 alsa mapping.
It's almost done and we'll ask someone in Taipei to add it to Wiki.

Thanks for ur information. We'll keep you posted.

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Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1

2009-02-24 Thread Michele Renda
On 24/02/2009 09:33, kimaidou wrote:
 Hi

 I am running the Hackable1, based on debian. I need some help to 
 install right click capabilities on it. Could you please describe step 
 by step how to install and use it ?
If it is based on Debian you can follow these steps:

Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Change this
 Option  TslibDevice   /dev/input/event1
with this
 Option  Device/dev/input/event1

In the same section add this option:
Option  EmulateRightButton1

And now... install this:
wget 
http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.5-3.1_armel.deb
dpkg --install xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.5-3.1_armel.deb

Reboot and enjoy.

Ps. if you want to personalize your distro, I think you can take a lot 
of ideas from here [1]

Best regards
Michele Renda

[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian


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Re: build fso image erorr

2009-02-24 Thread HouYu Li
But Michael, what do you mean by Take a look at the images directory ? I
cannot find any directory named images in my fso build dir. Sorry! I am a
newbie to FSO build system. I am trying my best... hehe..

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer 
mic...@openmoko.org wrote:

 Take a look at the images directory, perhaps it has been renamed in
 org.oe.dev.

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Re: Announcing new Project - Intone mplayer frontend

2009-02-24 Thread c_c

Hi,

Well, I've got libmpg123 working and it does seem faster than libmad - but
not by much. Of course, I haven't done any further optimisations for ARM.
The gain is in the range of 3% CPU usage (and measured by htop which isn't
all that accurate either).

I've also tried to get tremor going - but it seems to be breaking up the
sound (lots of pops and hisses) - so I must be doing something wrong. Does
anyone have any ideas how to handle the sampling rate changes in an ogg?

I'm also expanding my scope to include AAC. Any recommendations about a fast
integer implementation of AAC?

I'm looking at pushing out a basic working prototype over the coming
weekend. I have an elementary interface ready too on my laptop - but I need
dev ipk's for elementary (and dependencies) that would run on FSO M5 (which
should also cater for the upcoming SHR). Can anyone help? Any pointers would
be welcome.

Otherwise, I'm mainly sticking to GTK as of now. Glade lets me modify
widgets to suit finger input - except the sliders / scales. Any ideas about
how to make them wider?

Also, I'm thinking about using a sqlite backend (much later) to store info
about the tracks and playlists. Any pointers about that - or will it be
overkill?

I'm also looking at some mockups / ideas about the GUI. Currently, the
player has 4 tabs :- 
1 for Creating a playlist with a gtktreeview
1 for showing the current playing song in a treeview
1 for Albumn art
1 for lyrics

While the actual getting art or lyrics is not (yet) implemented, I'm looking
at modifying this to 2 tabs:-
1 for the Albumn art or lyrics(switchable) with the current playing song,
its info and the usual buttons/vol.
1 for creating/managing playlists.

Any inputs would be welcome.

BTW, it is also dbus friendly :-) I'm requesting resource CPU to prevent
suspend during playing. will also implement pausing on suspend and incoming
call (though those are not yet quite there in terms of priority right now).


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Re: Wolfson WM8753 alsa mapping

2009-02-24 Thread Paul Fertser
Hi,

Candy Chou candy_c...@openmoko.com writes:
 This is Openmoko HW engineer Candy in Taipei. We're working on the
 wm8753 alsa mapping.

Have you seen the diagram i prepared? [1]

 It's almost done and we'll ask someone in Taipei to add it to Wiki.

Weird idea to be honest ;)

 Thanks for ur information. We'll keep you posted.

Please tell if you have any plans on implementing an ALSA ctl plugin
to present the userspace with clean and simple interface consistent
with the particular hardware arrangement. If not, what are your plans
wrt this?

[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973_audio_subsystem
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problems with special SMS+frameworkd

2009-02-24 Thread Andreas Kemnade
Hi,

I have problems with SMS like created by 
gammu --sendsms WAPINDICATOR destination URL Title

When frameworkd receives such messages from the gsm modem,
it gives an exception so no messages are sent to zhone
and the message function is not usable.

2009.02.24 09:41:45 dbus.service ERRORUnable to append ([(1, 'read', 
'www.fastfoo', 
'\x11\x06\x01\xae\x02\x05j\x00E\xc6\x0c\x03www.fastfoot.mobi/download/XX/fastfoot.jad\x00\x01\x03FastFoot-Challenge
 Installation\x00\x01\x01', {'pid': 0, 'type': 'sms-deliver', 'timestamp': 'Sun 
Feb 22 21:05:49 2009 +0100', 'alphabet': 'binary'})],) to message with 
signature a(isssa{sv}): type 'exceptions.TypeError': expected string without 
null bytes
2009.02.24 09:41:45 ogsmd.channel ERRORunhandled exception in response 
callback: expected string without null bytes
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File 
/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/channel.py, 
line 380, in handleResponseToRequest
ok_cb( reqstring.strip(), response )
  File 
/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/mediator.py,
 line 896, in responseFromChannel
self._ok( result )
  File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/service.py, line 665, in 
lambda
keywords[return_callback] = lambda *retval: 
_method_reply_return(connection, message, method_name, signature, *retval)
  File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/service.py, line 254, in 
_method_reply_return
reply.append(signature=signature, *retval)
TypeError: expected string without null bytes

Is there at least any quick-fix available? It would be nice if the contents are 
at least
cp'able somewhere, so maybe just deleting the non-printable chars.
Unfortunately, my python knowledge is a bit poor.

BTW:
I cannot create a ticket on https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/newticket:
TICKET_CREATE privileges are required to perform this operation


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Re: (Android) Uboot

2009-02-24 Thread Steve 'dillo Okay

On Feb 24, 2009, at 09:25 , azmodie wrote:

 1. The easiest way:

 Just flash the qi-bootloader into the NAND-memory of your phone (the
 u-boot-bootloader will still be on the phone(NOR-flash)):

 dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D qi-s3c2442-master_a2d11c4dd18c9517.udfu

Just to add an additional data point, you'll need to flash Qi into  
NAND in order to use the beta3 or later Android releases.
I  did it using the OS X OpenMoko Flasher utility and didn't have  
any problems.

Steve

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Re: Announcing new Project - Intone mplayer frontend

2009-02-24 Thread c_c

Hi,
 I've seen 2 interesting libraries from Helix - Helix Fixed-point HE-AAC
(aacPlus) decoder and the Helix MP3 Decoder (fixed point). Both are fixed
point and optimised for ARM. They also have some performance figures on the
sites  https://datatype.helixcommunity.org/2005/aacfixptdec here  and 
https://datatype.helixcommunity.org/Mp3dec here . But, I cant clearly
understand the licensing terms for the aacplus decoder. 

 Can anyone who understands this lawyer gobbledegook (;-) clarify whether I
can use the code in a GPL app or not?

  I'm going to experiment with these and see what I come up with. If the
libraries are indeed optimised (for power and speed - as claimed) and I can
use them without any encumbrance, then I'll probably use them (instead of
libmpg123).
 Thanks.

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Re: Flashing GSM firmware

2009-02-24 Thread Steve 'dillo Okay

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1. Updated WM8753 routing diagram with ALSA control names (was:
   Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets?) (Paul Fertser)
2. Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ? (Paul Fertser)
3. Re: Voicenote - new software (Francesco de Virgilio)
4. Re: [SHR Unstable + Qi]: WSOD (Andy Green)
5. Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets? (Andy Green)
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8. opkg problem (Adam Jimerson)

 From: Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com
 Date: February 23, 2009 1:48:56 AM GMT+01:00
 To: community@lists.openmoko.org
 Subject: Updated WM8753 routing diagram with ALSA control names  
 (was: Re: [FSO] Any luck with bluetooth headsets?)
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 Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com writes:
 Simon Kagstrom simon.kagst...@gmail.com writes:
 From looking at the diagram, I think that would make sense at  
 least. I
 haven't figured out how to affect these still from looking in the  
 state
 file and in the driver though.

 I'm going to prepare a routing diagram with alsa control names  
 printed
 over it real soon (today/tomorrow), as i'm already familiar with  
 the
 driver code, so it's just work to be done.

 Man, it was tough:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_audio_subsystem#ALSA_Channels

 All alsa control names that affect routing are now printed over the
 diagram.

 I can provide Inkscape source file on demand.

 The controls that are not mentioned either affect ADC/DAC in various
 not routing-related ways (and to use them one most probably needs to
 look at the datasheet anyway) or affect power management in
 freerunner-specific way (and therefore their names are self- 
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 From: Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com
 Date: February 23, 2009 2:09:45 AM GMT+01:00
 To: community@lists.openmoko.org
 Subject: Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?
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 GNUtoo gnu...@no-log.org writes:
 it's a bug in the GSM modem's firmware...it can be updated but I  
 advise
 you against doing it because there is some command to type and if you
 makes a typo it can brick your gsm modem

 That's a lie.

 You can't brick your modem at all, as it has a ROM bootloader.

 Dedicated person can damage calibration data and that'd be a
 practically irrecoverable action (CMU-2000 and special soft are needed
 for calibration). BUT it's not as simple as making a typo.

 Damaging one's modem by typo is practically impossible, moreover, the
 new moko11 firmware contains quite an important fixes related to
 hardware flow control and resuming from call/sms. As it also fixes all
 known issues with any sim cards, it's worth updating.

Okay, I am pretty stuck here.
I've tried the procedure on the  Wiki here:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing
and here:
http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1565196|a1566012

to no effect.

I run the fluid command and it just sits there at:
Bootloader: (reset target)

In the other terminal window, I'm repeatedly doing
echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on
echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on

to no effect.

I thought I might have downloaded the firmware in the wrong format  
(ASCII instead of binary), so I ran file and got :
gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-moko11-beta1.m0:  
Motorola S-Record; binary data in text format

So I'm stuck.
I don't think I bricked the GSM modem because it doesn't seem like  
I've uploaded anything to it.

Further thoughts or suggestions are most welcome.
Any further update on getting this FW into an image ?

Thanks,
-Steve


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Re: Flashing GSM firmware (was Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?)

2009-02-24 Thread Peter Klassen
2009/2/23 Steve 'dillo Okay armad...@roadknightlabs.com:
 r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-
 gsm.0/power_on
 r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-
 gsm.0/power_on
 r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo a...@poff /dev/ttySAC0
 r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# FLUID_PORT=/dev/ttySAC0 fluid.exe -oo -b
 115200 -f /home/root/gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_
 ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-moko10.m0
 FLUID Revision 2.27, (23 Aug 2004). Copyright Texas Instruments,
 2001-2004.
 Reading image file: '/home/root/
 gsm_ac_gp_fd_pu_em_cph_ds_vc_cal35_ri_36_amd8_ts0-moko10.m0' (2138kB) ok
 Bootloader: (reset target)

 Help ?
 How long should I wait for the Bootloader to respond to the s3c24xx-
 gpio b7=1 command ?

Hi Steve,
after you see Bootloader: (reset target)
you have to do
r...@om-gta02:~# s3c24xx-gpio b7=1
in the second session. This worked for me with moko11-b1 :)

Best
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Re: Flashing GSM firmware

2009-02-24 Thread Paul Fertser
Steve \ 'dillo\ Okay armad...@roadknightlabs.com writes:
 Okay, I am pretty stuck here.
 I've tried the procedure on the  Wiki here:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing
 and here:
 http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1565196|a1566012

 to no effect.

 I run the fluid command and it just sits there at:
 Bootloader: (reset target)

 In the other terminal window, I'm repeatedly doing
 echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on
 echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on

 to no effect.

I estimate the probability of this not working for the first time as
0.1. So, after the second try it will most certainly work. Are you
sure nothing is accessing your modem at that time? Use lsof to
check. Also, it's possible that your kernel version has power_on sysfs
node in another place, make sure the node actually exists there.

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Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-24 Thread Helge Hafting
Alexander Mueller wrote:
 Uah, having to run an xserver just for an app being able to run on 
 windows sounds just terrible to me. There are so many cross platform GUI 
 frameworks out there, so why not chose one of these?
 
Just think of the xserver as a windows compatibility layer  Macs and 
linux PCs already have the xserver. An xserver is not such a big piece 
of software to run on windows either. It certainly isn't a big piece of 
linux - or it wouldn't fit on a phone too small to run windows.

I think the ideal way is to run the settings/config/sms apps on the 
phone itself. That way, you can do stuff on the phone (config, send sms, 
etc.) even without a pc.

The pc becomes mostly a convenience thing - run the same apps but on a 
much bigger screen with a real keyboard and mouse. Cut  paste between
phone apps and pc apps. I.e. paste and URL into a sms and vice-versa.

A few things, such a data synchronization with a pc app may need some
software to run on the pc. But that sort of thing should be kept to a 
minimum. When stuff runs on the phone, there will be only one place
to update software. So when MMS gets implemented on the phone, you 
immediately have that capability from the PC too. No waiting for the 
pc-phone app to catch up!

This is what the X protocol is all about - run the software on the 
machine that makes sense (i.e. the one that actually have gsm hw) and 
display it on the machine that has the best display (the pc).
It already works very well - using cable or using wifi.

Want to see the phone filesystem from the pc? The phone can already 
pretend to be a usb disk. Or you can run samba on it.

Helge Hafting

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Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-24 Thread Helge Hafting
Francesco de Virgilio wrote:

 Little hacks are the reason which pushed me to buy a Neo FreeRunner :D

Indeed!
Other phones may have more polish. But when you find something that 
isn't perfect for your need - even the smallest bug - you're stuck!

Freerunner tweaks are only limited by how much time I want to spend on 
them. No other phone can match that.

And often enough, someone else does it first, so it is not as if I need 
so much time either. The power of open source.

Helge Hafting

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Re: [OM] Less power consumption

2009-02-24 Thread Helge Hafting
Francesco de Virgilio wrote:

 However, also a good wifi roaming device could be interesting... is
 there a way to get the SHR unstable connect to open wifi networks around
 the streets?

Install wpa_supplicant. Google around for how you set it up to
automatically connect to open networks. You can also set it to 
auto-connect to all networks for which you know the password.

Helge Hafting

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GPS emergency call standards

2009-02-24 Thread Tilman Baumann
Hi,

I'm just wondering if there are any open standards for emergency  
services for location.
I'm thinking about services like http://www.steiger-stiftung.de  
(European, websites in other languages should be available)

  A SMS to the respective emergency (112, 911) number containing the  
GPS position could be a start, but then someone has to read it.
I would guess there is a standard for a computer readable format.

Building a emergency call app would be a nice thing to have.

PS: According to Wikipedia, 112 works on all GSM networks no matter if  
the number is a emergency number in tie state.

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Re: [New software] openBmap logger (GSM positioning)

2009-02-24 Thread Helge Hafting
onen...@free.fr wrote:
 For the moment our position is:
 
 We log the cell ids we get connected to.
 
 We do not log the neighbour cells. The reason is: if we are far from the 
 cells,
 we will (maybe, this needs experimentation to my point of view) see the cells
 even very far. I fear that it would stretch the areas, and thus decrease the
 precision, nullifying the benefit of recording those additional cells.
 
 But, my idea, is to use the neighbour cells, to detect the overlapping region
 among areas of cells I currently see, to improve the precision.
 
 Any comments?

You want to find minimum areas for the cells?  If so, log neighbour 
cells but log them as neighbour only . When you compute a cells 
coverage, only use the points where that cell is primary.

Unless the cell only exists as a neighbour in the database. In that 
case, it provides an approximate position until someone finds its true 
location.

If you try to find position by gsm, then assume you are somewhere inside 
the area of the primary cell. Then, look at what neighbours you see. If 
most neighbours detected are on one side of the cell, then assume you 
are on that edge of the cell. If you see neighbours all around, then you
are in the middle. Take special care when there are no neigbours on one 
side, such as on the coast. Lack of neighbours to one side obviously 
don't mean you are on the other edge of the cell.

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Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?

2009-02-24 Thread Helge Hafting
Russell Hay wrote:
 Just FYI - if you use the arrows on either end of the 'submenu' you only 
 get
 
   Display Look Screen Input
 
 ...but you CAN swipe left or right across them to reveal the additional 
 options..
 
 Damn well hidden though!

Indeed. I now found the advanced setting. The non-functional arrows is 
a bug then. They did sidescroll one step but not the rest - so  I was 
sure there wasn't any more to be found.

Now I see
Language Advanced Settings Extensions  also!

Thanks for the tip!

Helge Hafting

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Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?

2009-02-24 Thread Helge Hafting
Yorick Moko wrote:
 I (and surely others) am working on a leaner, faster theme - any
 eye-candy that distinctly impacts the user experience should NOT be
 default, and in this case we desperately need a simple and fast theme
 as the default or the immediate impression users will get is: Damn,
 this is slow!

 
 nice to hear that
 ugly and fast beats pretty and damn slow any day for me
 (pretty and fast would also be acceptable ;-))

Pretty and fast should be possible then.

There is no need for multiple layers of transparent icons. They can be 
collapsed into one layer with a single transparent icon, looking 
_exactly_ the same.

Effects when a icon is actually selected is another story, but that sort 
of thing should not need to impact scrolling.

Helge Hafting

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Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?

2009-02-24 Thread Helge Hafting
Carl Lobo wrote:
 Which ones are good candidates?
 - disable drop shadow
 - framerate to 25 or 24 (whar is default for movies?)
 
 Disabling drop shadow reduced cpu usage for me. But I had to manually
 rename (could have deleted it) the module.dropshadow.cfg in both
 /usr/share/enlightenment/config and //home/root/.e/e/config (or
 similar). After that and restarting the xserver things cpu usage went
 down to almost zero while idle.

And no noticeable effect on the display either, seems it was all for 
nothing. Seems the can save a little space in the image by not
distributing the dropshadow module.

 Framerate for movies in a cinema is 25 I think.

It is 24. TV is usually different.

Helge Hafting

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Re: GPS emergency call standards

2009-02-24 Thread Helge Hafting
Tilman Baumann wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm just wondering if there are any open standards for emergency  
 services for location.
 I'm thinking about services like http://www.steiger-stiftung.de  
 (European, websites in other languages should be available)
 
   A SMS to the respective emergency (112, 911) number containing the  
 GPS position could be a start, but then someone has to read it.
 I would guess there is a standard for a computer readable format.
 
 Building a emergency call app would be a nice thing to have.
 
 PS: According to Wikipedia, 112 works on all GSM networks no matter if  
 the number is a emergency number in tie state.

If you have the gps coordinates, just tell them over the phone as you 
make the call. They will use it if they have gps eqipment, which is 
likely. Automating this seems dangerous in that your SMS to the 
emergency service is delayed by a few minutes as the phone struggle to 
get the first fix. When you talk, you can fall back on other 
descriptions of the place (addresses, road names) if coordinates aren't 
available.

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Re: NetworkManager works just fine (was: [ubuntu host] NetworkManager improvements)

2009-02-24 Thread Daniel.Li
On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 00:18 -0500, Joel Newkirk wrote:
 Thanks. With the current Ubuntu there have been problems where NM
 tries
 to take control of usb0 despite being told not to, or refuses to
 follow
 manual setting within its own GUI, but also it has had problems where
 it
 tries to point default route out usb0, or brings eth0 down and back
 up,
 or other odd behavior. Lately most of that seems fixed.

Well, ubuntu 8.10 works. 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#Ubuntu_8.10_-_Easy_Way 
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[SHR] Vibration freezes on wake up on call

2009-02-24 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
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Hi all,

here's my 3 days experience with SHR unstable: to reproduce what appears
as a bug, do the follow:
- - power on SHR ad wait for loggin on GSM network
- - press the Power button to suspend
- - take another phone and call the neo
- - after waking up, if you close the call without opening it from the
Neo, the call GUI closes but the vibration will continue until remove
battery.

Sometimes vibration continues also after opening the call on the neo
after resume, making hard to talk.
I've tested this both with uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin and
uImage-2.6.28-oe1+gitr34240a1c06ae36180dee695aa25bbae869b2aa26-r3-om-gta02.bin
kernels, with the same rootfs image (shr-lite-image-om-gta02.jffs2).

Is it a known issue, a registered bug, or is there a solution?

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Re: [QtExtended] Report on 4.4.3 src on FSO

2009-02-24 Thread Daniel.Li
On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 16:16 +0800, HouYu Li wrote:
 Hi, Tom. Thank you for you instruction although I haven't try it. And
 I just made a compile on qtextended snapshot 20090223, no patches
 applied. And I made a rootfs image and a tarball with the daily build
 nox rootfs and 2.6.24 kernel (20090223) from downloads.openmoko.org.
 You can get it here:
 http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/. I haven't give it a
 test. I will do it after work today. If anyone would like to try, just
 download it. Hope it gives you a lot of fun.

BTW, what can I get the source code ver 4.4.3. I have tried wiki link,
but I didn't find any.

Could u please direct me to the right place? Thanks.
 
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Re: [SHR - latest unstable] endless ringing

2009-02-24 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
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Joel Newkirk ha scritto:

 Ergo, the problem appears to be fixed upstream and should arrive in SHR
 when frameworkd there is updated to match M5 FSO.
 
 j
 

And when will this more or less happen, according to your ideas? :)
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Re: [QtExtended] Report on 4.4.3 src on FSO

2009-02-24 Thread Tomas Riveros Schober
Daniel.Li escribió:
 On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 16:16 +0800, HouYu Li wrote:
   
 Hi, Tom. Thank you for you instruction although I haven't try it. And
 I just made a compile on qtextended snapshot 20090223, no patches
 applied. And I made a rootfs image and a tarball with the daily build
 nox rootfs and 2.6.24 kernel (20090223) from downloads.openmoko.org.
 You can get it here:
 http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/. I haven't give it a
 test. I will do it after work today. If anyone would like to try, just
 download it. Hope it gives you a lot of fun.
 

 BTW, what can I get the source code ver 4.4.3. I have tried wiki link,
 but I didn't find any.

 Could u please direct me to the right place? Thanks.
   
http://qtextended.org/downloads/snapshots/

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Re: problems with special SMS+frameworkd

2009-02-24 Thread Jan Lübbe
On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 10:24 +0100, Andreas Kemnade wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have problems with SMS like created by 
 gammu --sendsms WAPINDICATOR destination URL Title
 
 When frameworkd receives such messages from the gsm modem,
 it gives an exception so no messages are sent to zhone
 and the message function is not usable.
 
 2009.02.24 09:41:45 dbus.service ERRORUnable to append ([(1, 'read', 
 'www.fastfoo', 
 '\x11\x06\x01\xae\x02\x05j\x00E\xc6\x0c\x03www.fastfoot.mobi/download/XX/fastfoot.jad\x00\x01\x03FastFoot-Challenge
  Installation\x00\x01\x01', {'pid': 0, 'type': 'sms-deliver', 'timestamp': 
 'Sun Feb 22 21:05:49 2009 +0100', 'alphabet': 'binary'})],) to message with 
 signature a(isssa{sv}): type 'exceptions.TypeError': expected string 
 without null bytes
 2009.02.24 09:41:45 ogsmd.channel ERRORunhandled exception in response 
 callback: expected string without null bytes
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File 
 /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/channel.py,
  line 380, in handleResponseToRequest
 ok_cb( reqstring.strip(), response )
   File 
 /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/abstract/mediator.py,
  line 896, in responseFromChannel
 self._ok( result )
   File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/service.py, line 665, in 
 lambda
 keywords[return_callback] = lambda *retval: 
 _method_reply_return(connection, message, method_name, signature, *retval)
   File /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/dbus/service.py, line 254, in 
 _method_reply_return
 reply.append(signature=signature, *retval)
 TypeError: expected string without null bytes
 

This has been fixed in the current git version (which will be released
as MS5.1 soon):
http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=commit;h=ceef20a8780e2abc96d4f68e49ffb11fd208a0e7

 BTW:
 I cannot create a ticket on https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/newticket:
 TICKET_CREATE privileges are required to perform this operation

You need to create an account to add tickets (for spam protection).

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Re: [SHR - latest unstable] endless ringing

2009-02-24 Thread Pander
Francesco de Virgilio wrote:
 Joel Newkirk ha scritto:
 
 Ergo, the problem appears to be fixed upstream and should arrive in SHR
 when frameworkd there is updated to match M5 FSO.
 
 j
 
 
 And when will this more or less happen, according to your ideas? :)


When you let it ring for about 5 seconds or so, it goes into endless ringing

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Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?

2009-02-24 Thread Xavier Cremaschi

 1. wifi : Wifi Mofi hangs when I run it
  3. SHR Panels : some panels in 'Settings' hang when I click on them
  (GSM/operators for example)
  4. Everything is slow

Seem better since yesterday evening upgrade, but it still very hard to 
scroll on desktop.


 2. gps : GPS cannot fix

I cannot make it working. Hardware is ok since it worked with Om2008.8, 
timezone/time is good, but no fix... 'telnet localhost 2947' always 
output same 'empty' data.


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Re: [SHR - latest unstable] endless ringing

2009-02-24 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
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Pander ha scritto:
 Francesco de Virgilio wrote:
 Joel Newkirk ha scritto:

 Ergo, the problem appears to be fixed upstream and should arrive in SHR
 when frameworkd there is updated to match M5 FSO.
 j

 And when will this more or less happen, according to your ideas? :)
 
 
 When you let it ring for about 5 seconds or so, it goes into endless ringing
 

Thanks Pander, but the question was: When will frameworkd be updated to
match FSO M5?

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Re: Flashing GSM firmware

2009-02-24 Thread Steve 'dillo Okay

On Feb 24, 2009, at 11:01 , Paul Fertser wrote:

 Steve \ 'dillo\ Okay armad...@roadknightlabs.com writes:
 Okay, I am pretty stuck here.
 I've tried the procedure on the  Wiki here:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing
 and here:
 http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1565196|a1566012

 to no effect.

 I run the fluid command and it just sits there at:
 Bootloader: (reset target)

 In the other terminal window, I'm repeatedly doing
 echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on
 echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on

 to no effect.

 I estimate the probability of this not working for the first time as
 0.1. So, after the second try it will most certainly work. Are you
 sure nothing is accessing your modem at that time? Use lsof to
 check. Also, it's possible that your kernel version has power_on sysfs
 node in another place, make sure the node actually exists there.

I'm using the fso-console image recommended in the GSM Flashing wiki  
page.
downloaded from here:
http://people.openmoko.org/mickey/images/openmoko-fso-console-image- 
glibc-ipk--20081028-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary
http://people.openmoko.org/mickey/images/uImage-2.6.24+r10+gitr75999 
+54524f4531c8b262431b794fea610d81bb351c86-r10-om-gta02.bin

The /sys/bus/platform entry is a symbolic link to /sys/devices/ 
platform and contains:
r...@om-gta02:/sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0# pwd
/sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0
r...@om-gta02:/sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0# ls -l
-rw-r--r--1 root root 4096 Feb 24 11:05 download
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Feb 24 11:05 driver - 
  ../../../bus/platform/drivers/neo1973-pm-gsm
-rw-r--r--1 root root 4096 Feb 24 11:05 flowcontrolled
-r--r--r--1 root root 4096 Feb 24 11:05 modalias
drwxr-xr-x2 root root0 Feb 24 11:05 power
-rw-r--r--1 root root 4096 Feb 24 11:05 power_on
-rw-r--r--1 root root 4096 Feb 24 11:05 reset
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Feb 24 11:05 subsystem - 
  ../../../bus/platform
-rw-r--r--1 root root 4096 Feb 24 11:04 uevent
r...@om-gta02:/sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0#

So it looks like the power_on node is there. The default value at  
boot of the power_on node is 0.

  I'll try writing to it directly rather than going through the link,  
although I don't know why that would make any difference.
lsof reveals nothing interesting.
I ran the gsm0710muxd start script and it shows that the gsm daemon  
isn't running:
r...@om-gta02:/# /etc/init.d/gsm0710muxd stop
no process in pidfile '/var/run/gsm0710muxd.pid' found; none killed
r...@om-gta02:/#

What you're saying makes sense, i.e. that something is using the GSM  
modem, but it does look it's shut off.

Thanks for your help,
Steve

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Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1

2009-02-24 Thread kimaidou
Thanks for your help
I installed it, and modified the xorg.conf as described, and I can get no
rightclick. I checked 3 times the content of the xorg.conf, and I rebooted.

Any application for testing the right-click ?

thanks

2009/2/24 Michele Renda michele.re...@gmail.com

 On 24/02/2009 09:33, kimaidou wrote:
  Hi
 
  I am running the Hackable1, based on debian. I need some help to
  install right click capabilities on it. Could you please describe step
  by step how to install and use it ?
 If it is based on Debian you can follow these steps:

 Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf

 Change this
 Option  TslibDevice   /dev/input/event1
 with this
 Option  Device/dev/input/event1

 In the same section add this option:
 Option  EmulateRightButton1

 And now... install this:
 wget
 http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.5-3.1_armel.deb
 dpkg --install xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.5-3.1_armel.deb

 Reboot and enjoy.

 Ps. if you want to personalize your distro, I think you can take a lot
 of ideas from here [1]

 Best regards
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 [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian


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Re: [SHR unstable] bluez-utils bluez4

2009-02-24 Thread Valerio Valerio
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Carl Lobo carll...@gmail.com wrote:
 bluez4 provides the 4.x branch of bluez rather than the 3.x branch. It should
 provide the same functionality, but some bits may work differently. You could
 try to install without dependencies to see if remoko will work with bluez4.

 I tried remoko with bluez4 and it keeps saying Waiting for connection
 from server or something indefinitely.. :(.
bluez4 has a different
 DBus API, maybe it requires some porting?

Yup, the DBus API and other things are different in Bluez4, try to run
ReMoko through ssh or in a console and paste the output here.

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Re: Flashing GSM firmware

2009-02-24 Thread Steve 'dillo Okay


So fluid is still not flashing the image, but I noticed the following  
messages on the console
after my latest attempt:
The error message:
rxerr: port ch=0x00, rxs=0x000c

shows up in dmesg after I send the command:
echo a...@poff /dev/ttySAC0

Looking back through dmesg, this seems to be a pretty consistent  
error message:

modem wakeup interruptresult of  echo 1 / 
sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on
rxerr: port ch=0x88, rxs=0x0004  ---result of echo a...@poff / 
dev/ttySAC0
rxerr: port ch=0x00, rxs=0x000c
rxerr: port ch=0x14, rxs=0x0004
rxerr: port ch=0x61, rxs=0x0004
rxerr: port ch=0x12, rxs=0x0004

This happens consistently as a result of the following command sequence:
r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 0 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm. 
0/power_on
r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm. 
0/power_on
r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# s3c24xx-gpio b7=0
r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin# echo a...@poff /dev/ttySAC0
r...@om-gta02:/usr/sbin#

This is referenced in this bug report:
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2180

So it looks like my attempt to apply the fix for this bug may be  
getting stomped on by the bug itself :)

Steve

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Re: [Debian]Voice recorder - ecasound -- Help

2009-02-24 Thread kimaidou
Ok. thanks for your great help.

For now, I choose the simplicity and
* use the state files provided with the fr
* use the -D plughw:0,0 option to record only a mono file and use -r 8000 to
record at 8khZ

So my line becomes:
arecord -D plughw:0,0 -r 8000 $userfolder/$myname 

This saves a lot of space : 2MO -- 100 kO for a 10 seconds record.

I am about to release version 2 :D

2009/2/22 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk

 On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 01:30:52PM +0100, kimaidou wrote:
  Hi guys
 
  I have a question : why not just pass the good parameters to arecord so
 that
  it recors in 8bit, Mono, 8kHz as :
  arecord -D hw -f S16_LE -t wav -c 1 -r 8000 myfile.wav

 $ arecord -D hw -f S16_LE -t wav -c 1 -r 8000 myfile.wav
 Recording WAVE 'myfile.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 8000 Hz,
 Mono
 arecord: set_params:923: Channels count non available

 $ arecord -D hw -f S8 -t wav -c 2 -r 8000 myfile.wav
 Recording WAVE 'myfile.wav' : Signed 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Stereo
 arecord: set_params:918: Sample format non available

 $ arecord -D hw -f U8 -t wav -c 2 -r 8000 myfile.wav
 Recording WAVE 'myfile.wav' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Stereo
 arecord: set_params:918: Sample format non available

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wifi NOT work on fso-image

2009-02-24 Thread Daniel.Li
Dear All,
I just downloaded below combination from
http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/milestone5/om-gta02/ 

fso-image-om-gta02.jffs2 + uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin

So I login SSH thought USB and wanna try wifi, but get

r...@om-gta02:~# iwlist eth0 scan
eth0  Interface doesn't support scanning.


I have noticed that wifi is working under command IF, see
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions 


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Re: GPS emergency call standards

2009-02-24 Thread Tilman Baumann

Am 24.02.2009 um 12:38 schrieb Helge Hafting:

 Tilman Baumann wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm just wondering if there are any open standards for emergency
 services for location.
 I'm thinking about services like http://www.steiger-stiftung.de
 (European, websites in other languages should be available)

  A SMS to the respective emergency (112, 911) number containing the
 GPS position could be a start, but then someone has to read it.
 I would guess there is a standard for a computer readable format.

 Building a emergency call app would be a nice thing to have.

 PS: According to Wikipedia, 112 works on all GSM networks no matter  
 if
 the number is a emergency number in tie state.

 If you have the gps coordinates, just tell them over the phone as you
 make the call. They will use it if they have gps eqipment, which is
 likely.

As log as you are able to do so.
I'm more thinking about something like a machine readable side channel  
paralel to a regular emergency call.

BTW. the German ADAC is completely helpless if you provide them GPS  
coordinates.

 Automating this seems dangerous in that your SMS to the
 emergency service is delayed by a few minutes as the phone struggle to
 get the first fix. When you talk, you can fall back on other
 descriptions of the place (addresses, road names) if coordinates  
 aren't
 available.

Depends, when a GPS fix is made it will be much more precise and  
quicker.

And there seems to be a standard for cars to make automatic emergency  
calls on accidents.
It is called eCall and no technical information is to be found... :)

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Re: wifi NOT work on fso-image

2009-02-24 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
please search the list for wifi and fso milestone5 and you'll find the solution.
If your are to lazy for that please follow this link
http://n2.nabble.com/-FSO-milestone-5--No-wifi---td2333773ef1958.html#a2333773

2009/2/24 Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com:
 Dear All,
 I just downloaded below combination from
 http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/milestone5/om-gta02/

 fso-image-om-gta02.jffs2 + uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin

 So I login SSH thought USB and wanna try wifi, but get

 r...@om-gta02:~# iwlist eth0 scan
 eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning.


 I have noticed that wifi is working under command IF, see
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions


 How can I fix the problem? Thanks.

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Re: GPS emergency call standards

2009-02-24 Thread Pander
Tilman Baumann wrote:
 Am 24.02.2009 um 12:38 schrieb Helge Hafting:
 
 Tilman Baumann wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm just wondering if there are any open standards for emergency
 services for location.
 I'm thinking about services like http://www.steiger-stiftung.de
 (European, websites in other languages should be available)

  A SMS to the respective emergency (112, 911) number containing the
 GPS position could be a start, but then someone has to read it.
 I would guess there is a standard for a computer readable format.

 Building a emergency call app would be a nice thing to have.

 PS: According to Wikipedia, 112 works on all GSM networks no matter  
 if
 the number is a emergency number in tie state.
 If you have the gps coordinates, just tell them over the phone as you
 make the call. They will use it if they have gps eqipment, which is
 likely.
 
 As log as you are able to do so.
 I'm more thinking about something like a machine readable side channel  
 paralel to a regular emergency call.
 
 BTW. the German ADAC is completely helpless if you provide them GPS  
 coordinates.
 
 Automating this seems dangerous in that your SMS to the
 emergency service is delayed by a few minutes as the phone struggle to
 get the first fix. When you talk, you can fall back on other
 descriptions of the place (addresses, road names) if coordinates  
 aren't
 available.
 
 Depends, when a GPS fix is made it will be much more precise and  
 quicker.
 
 And there seems to be a standard for cars to make automatic emergency  
 calls on accidents.
 It is called eCall and no technical information is to be found... :)
 

The notification part sending data can be reused with/from
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Anti-Theft_Mode

Uploading GSM cell info, GPS coordinates, USB IDs, voice recordings, etc.

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Voicenote - New version = 0.2

2009-02-24 Thread kimaidou
Hi all,

I have made some modifications to voicenote :
2009-02-24 - v0.2

2nd version:

   - GPL license added
   - the user can select the wave files destination folder at the first
   startup (and then modify it in the file ~/.voicenote/voicenote.cfg
   - the wave file is now recorded in mono at 8000 kHz (which saves a lot of
   CPU and bytes)
   - addition of comments in the script
   - the script is called voicenote, and not anymore voicenote.sh


You can install it by following the instructions on opkg.org (1) or in the
wiki page (2)

(1) http://www.opkg.org/package_140.html
(2) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Voicenote
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Re: Voicenote - New version = 0.2

2009-02-24 Thread kimaidou
I forgot to tell :
Since I renamed the script from voicenote.sh to voicenote, you have to
uninstall the version 0.1 and then install 0.2.

You can do it by:
opkg remove voicenote --autoremove

2009/2/24 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com

 Hi all,

 I have made some modifications to voicenote :
 2009-02-24 - v0.2

 2nd version:

- GPL license added
- the user can select the wave files destination folder at the first
startup (and then modify it in the file ~/.voicenote/voicenote.cfg
- the wave file is now recorded in mono at 8000 kHz (which saves a lot
of CPU and bytes)
- addition of comments in the script
- the script is called voicenote, and not anymore voicenote.sh


 You can install it by following the instructions on opkg.org (1) or in the
 wiki page (2)

 (1) http://www.opkg.org/package_140.html
 (2) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Voicenote


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OT: iPhone howto

2009-02-24 Thread Lothar Behrens

I came across this nice video: 
http://www.bikinirama.de/img/user/Videos/BIKINIRAMA_iPhone_011_3224.mov

Have fun :-)

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Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1

2009-02-24 Thread Marcel
The new version works fine here. :)

I think there were some issues with fbdev vs. xglamo or so, maybe you could 
check the wiki page Renda already mentioned...

--
Marcel

Am Tuesday 24 February 2009 14:14:08 schrieb kimaidou:
 Thanks for your help
 I installed it, and modified the xorg.conf as described, and I can get no
 rightclick. I checked 3 times the content of the xorg.conf, and I rebooted.

 Any application for testing the right-click ?

 thanks

 2009/2/24 Michele Renda michele.re...@gmail.com

  On 24/02/2009 09:33, kimaidou wrote:
   Hi
  
   I am running the Hackable1, based on debian. I need some help to
   install right click capabilities on it. Could you please describe step
   by step how to install and use it ?
 
  If it is based on Debian you can follow these steps:
 
  Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
 
  Change this
  Option  TslibDevice   /dev/input/event1
  with this
  Option  Device/dev/input/event1
 
  In the same section add this option:
  Option  EmulateRightButton1
 
  And now... install this:
  wget
  http://www.ohli.de/download/xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.5-3.1_armel.deb
  dpkg --install xserver-xorg-input-tslib_0.0.5-3.1_armel.deb
 
  Reboot and enjoy.
 
  Ps. if you want to personalize your distro, I think you can take a lot
  of ideas from here [1]
 
  Best regards
  Michele Renda
 
  [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian

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Re: Voicenote - New version = 0.2

2009-02-24 Thread Sebastian Hammerl
kimaidou schrieb:
 I forgot to tell :
 Since I renamed the script from voicenote.sh to voicenote, you
 have to uninstall the version 0.1 and then install 0.2.

 You can do it by:
 opkg remove voicenote --autoremove
for me updating removes the old files. but i had to change #/bin/bash to
#/bin/sh because i had no bash installed. perhaps you could change it,
/bin/sh works, too

Sebastian

 2009/2/24 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com mailto:kimai...@gmail.com

 Hi all,

 I have made some modifications to voicenote :


   2009-02-24 - v0.2

 2nd version:

 * GPL license added
 * the user can select the wave files destination folder at the
   first startup (and then modify it in the file
   ~/.voicenote/voicenote.cfg
 * the wave file is now recorded in mono at 8000 kHz (which
   saves a lot of CPU and bytes)
 * addition of comments in the script
 * the script is called voicenote, and not anymore
   voicenote.sh


 You can install it by following the instructions on opkg.org
 http://opkg.org (1) or in the wiki page (2)

 (1) http://www.opkg.org/package_140.html
 (2) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Voicenote


 

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Re: GPS emergency call standards

2009-02-24 Thread Lothar Behrens
Even if the GPS location is not actually got, the phone software in  
that case
could activate GPS automatically. When GPS has a fix the app could  
assist in

taking another call or, if no reaction of the user do it automatically.

Navit could be used to locate the city and street near the location  
and this could be

spd-say'ed.

The human in danger then only has to accept to do the followup call,  
nothing more.

In case all is fine he/she could dismiss.

Doing all the combination of locating and navit, will help in the  
typical situation
one isn't really in the position to 'think' about what to tell to the  
operator.


There are several articles and at least one I have read or have seen  
about doing

emergency calls in carcrash for sample with the car - GPS application.

Would that help ?

Lothar

Am 24.02.2009 um 15:30 schrieb Pander:


Tilman Baumann wrote:

Am 24.02.2009 um 12:38 schrieb Helge Hafting:


Tilman Baumann wrote:

Hi,

I'm just wondering if there are any open standards for emergency
services for location.
I'm thinking about services like http://www.steiger-stiftung.de
(European, websites in other languages should be available)

A SMS to the respective emergency (112, 911) number containing the
GPS position could be a start, but then someone has to read it.
I would guess there is a standard for a computer readable format.

Building a emergency call app would be a nice thing to have.

PS: According to Wikipedia, 112 works on all GSM networks no matter
if
the number is a emergency number in tie state.
If you have the gps coordinates, just tell them over the phone as  
you

make the call. They will use it if they have gps eqipment, which is
likely.


As log as you are able to do so.
I'm more thinking about something like a machine readable side  
channel

paralel to a regular emergency call.

BTW. the German ADAC is completely helpless if you provide them GPS
coordinates.


Automating this seems dangerous in that your SMS to the
emergency service is delayed by a few minutes as the phone  
struggle to

get the first fix. When you talk, you can fall back on other
descriptions of the place (addresses, road names) if coordinates
aren't
available.


Depends, when a GPS fix is made it will be much more precise and
quicker.

And there seems to be a standard for cars to make automatic emergency
calls on accidents.
It is called eCall and no technical information is to be found... :)



The notification part sending data can be reused with/from
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Anti-Theft_Mode

Uploading GSM cell info, GPS coordinates, USB IDs, voice recordings,  
etc.



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Re: Voicenote - New version = 0.2

2009-02-24 Thread kimaidou
2009/2/24 Sebastian Hammerl list-openm...@omoco.de

  kimaidou schrieb:

 I forgot to tell :
 Since I renamed the script from voicenote.sh to voicenote, you have to
 uninstall the version 0.1 and then install 0.2.

 You can do it by:
 opkg remove voicenote --autoremove

 for me updating removes the old files. but i had to change #/bin/bash to
 #/bin/sh because i had no bash installed. perhaps you could change it,
 /bin/sh works, too

 Sebastian


Thanks for your reply. I don't really know why I put bash and not sh. I will
change it now and re-upload it fast.
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Re: Installing software?

2009-02-24 Thread Helge Hafting
Adam Jimerson wrote:
 
 
 On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com 
 mailto:yorickm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 to install programs you can either:
 *download it on your host pc, scp it to the freerunner and install it
 *connect the FR to the internet (usb/wifi/bluetooth...) and opkg
 install something
 *connect the FR to the internet and use the graphical UI that is
 included in some distro's like 2008.x
 
 a very easy way is to set up usb networking
 (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking),
 ssh into your FR,
 take a look at for example www.opkg.org http://www.opkg.org,
 and copy paste the code to install something in the terminal when
 shh'd into the freerunner
 
 y
 
 Thanks for the quick reply, as of right now I can't connect my 
 freerunner to the internet, I can't launch the settings menu and can't 
 find some kind of command line short of shhing into the phone when it is 
 connected via USB.

So:
1. ssh into the phone, presumably from some kind of pc
2. on the pc, open http://opkg.org. Find something you want to install
3. On the opkg.org site, note how the software you want to install has
install instructions in the form of one or more commands
that start with opkg and then some URL.
4. Copy these instructions from the web browser, paste them into the
ssh window.

This should work if USB networking is set up properly, so the phone uses
the PCs internet connection. (It will also work if you get the phone 
connected via wifi or gprs.)

If you can't get usb networking to work properly:
1. ssh into the phone
2. Open opkg.org in a web browser
3. download the files (ipk or opk files) to the pc
4. copy files from the pc to the phone. Presumably, if you have
ssh, you  also have scp. The command looks like this, on the pc:
scp filename.ipk r...@192.168.0.202:
This command is given on the PC, _not_ in the ssh window.
5. The file is now on the phone, but not installed. Use the
ssh window, and give this command:
opkg install filename.ipk

Obviously, use the real filename instead of my example filename.ipk


Helge Hafting

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Mokogeocaching 0.2 released

2009-02-24 Thread Jesper Vestergaard
This is a litle gtk python script that searches the geocaching.com site 
for caches near your current position or a user specified lattitude and 
longitude and add the cache as a poi in tangogps.

This is version 0.2 and the code is still not pretty but quite usable.
The package kan be found here: http://www.opkg.org/package_141.html

Warning: I have only tested it on shr unstable

The script can now:
get gps location from phone
user can manually set location
user can specifi range
script can download matching geocaches and add as poi
read geocaching.com username and password from configuration file
threaded gtk and downloading - but unfortunately not searching
unicode support
gui input for username and password


Mokogeocaching works best with tangogps 0.9.6 because of a bug in 0.9.5 
where tangogps crashes if a poi is larger than 1500 charaters.

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Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-24 Thread Alexander Mueller
Well, I have worked with several X applications on Windows as well as on 
the Mac and I hated it. You can see its not a native application because 
the user interface doesnt match the native one.

And about a desktop application. To me such a thing isnt jusr a remote 
frontend for the phone, but rather the place where the data as synced 
and backed up. As with the palm. You sync your stuff and all your apps 
and all your data is on the PC. Plug in a new palm device, sync again 
and your new device is ready to go. I expect the same for every device.

Especially with the Openmoko this is true after reflashing the device.

Sync is one of the really weak spots of Android and the iPhone (only 
syncing pim data, syncing only with Google Mail or iTunes).

Alex


Helge Hafting schrieb:
 Alexander Mueller wrote:
 Uah, having to run an xserver just for an app being able to run on 
 windows sounds just terrible to me. There are so many cross platform GUI 
 frameworks out there, so why not chose one of these?

 Just think of the xserver as a windows compatibility layer  Macs and 
 linux PCs already have the xserver. An xserver is not such a big piece 
 of software to run on windows either. It certainly isn't a big piece of 
 linux - or it wouldn't fit on a phone too small to run windows.
 
 I think the ideal way is to run the settings/config/sms apps on the 
 phone itself. That way, you can do stuff on the phone (config, send sms, 
 etc.) even without a pc.
 
 The pc becomes mostly a convenience thing - run the same apps but on a 
 much bigger screen with a real keyboard and mouse. Cut  paste between
 phone apps and pc apps. I.e. paste and URL into a sms and vice-versa.
 
 A few things, such a data synchronization with a pc app may need some
 software to run on the pc. But that sort of thing should be kept to a 
 minimum. When stuff runs on the phone, there will be only one place
 to update software. So when MMS gets implemented on the phone, you 
 immediately have that capability from the PC too. No waiting for the 
 pc-phone app to catch up!
 
 This is what the X protocol is all about - run the software on the 
 machine that makes sense (i.e. the one that actually have gsm hw) and 
 display it on the machine that has the best display (the pc).
 It already works very well - using cable or using wifi.
 
 Want to see the phone filesystem from the pc? The phone can already 
 pretend to be a usb disk. Or you can run samba on it.
 
 Helge Hafting
 
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Re: build fso image erorr

2009-02-24 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Dienstag, den 24.02.2009, 16:58 +0800 schrieb HouYu Li:
 But Michael, what do you mean by Take a look at the images
 directory ? I cannot find any directory named images in my fso
 build dir.

The 'images' directory is a subdirectory of the 'packages' directory of
OE.

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Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-24 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Alexander Mueller xelarel...@web.de writes:
 Especially with the Openmoko this is true after reflashing the device.

Why not just rsync your home directory?

(And also, I have not reflashed my device for at least 6 months, using
debian here..)



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Re: GSM Power off

2009-02-24 Thread Michael
Hi Paul Fertser,

thank you for the clarification.

greets
Michael

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Re: GPS - how to get lat lon and time from a bash script file ?

2009-02-24 Thread kimaidou
Hi all

I come back after some tests. I would like to stick on bash script for
several reasons (don't want to load another instance of python just to
record some sound, etc.). So among your answer, I tried to use one of this
line

echo p | nc -w1 0 gpsd | tr -d '\r\n' | cut -d'=' -f2

But I got nothing in return. Could you please be more specific :
* do I need to start gpsd first
* will this work on every distribution, or do I need to change gpsd by
fso-gpsd or anything else ?
* how do I know I have a fix before using this line ?

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Re: GPS - how to get lat lon and time from a bash script file ?

2009-02-24 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com writes:
 * do I need to start gpsd first

Sure, netcat talks to gspd.

 * will this work on every distribution, or do I need to change gpsd by
 fso-gpsd or anything else ?

It works with anything that speaks the gpsd protocol.

 * how do I know I have a fix before using this line ?

It will return ? when you don't have a fix I think.


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Re: OT: iPhone howto

2009-02-24 Thread flamma
 I came across this nice video:
 http://www.bikinirama.de/img/user/Videos/BIKINIRAMA_iPhone_011_3224.mov

 Have fun :-)

 Lothar


What was that about? I don't understand the narrator. The only thing that
comes my mind is: JAILBREAKING.


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[FYP] Is it possible to change DPI?

2009-02-24 Thread Leonti Bielski
Hi!
I've just tried FYP distribution and it seems very interesting.

I've connected to WiFi network without problems and even without command line :)
Browser supports SSL so this is definitely a big pros for me.

The only thing about FYP is that everything is so small. I can't even
hit start menu from the first try. I'm sure it can come with practice,
but still, I would like to make it bigger (still talking about DPI
here :) ).

Does it make any sense? I mean bigger fonts and everything could mess
up the whole appearance and usability can descrease instead of
increasing.
If so, where can change the settings for fonts, buttons, etc...
Right now I'm back to shr, so I can't really browse through settings
to find out if it's even possible.

Leonti

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Re: OT: iPhone howto

2009-02-24 Thread Leonti Bielski
Call me boring but I don't find funny mindless destruction.

Maybe this girl is saying something that makes it funny? I don't speak German :(

Leonti

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 6:31 PM,  fla...@correo.ugr.es wrote:
 I came across this nice video:
 http://www.bikinirama.de/img/user/Videos/BIKINIRAMA_iPhone_011_3224.mov

 Have fun :-)

 Lothar


 What was that about? I don't understand the narrator. The only thing that
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Re: OT: iPhone howto

2009-02-24 Thread Lothar Behrens
I think, the following page explains more about the video's they  
produce.


http://it-republik.de/zonen/portale/psecom,id,99,news,39646,.html

Sorry german.

They state about the consum and the advertising of the companies to  
consume

more and more. (A mobile phone is out dated after 1-2 years)

So after that time you *may* do the same with your device, if the  
company doesn't offer

any useful upgrade or the like.

In contrast to this, openmoko gives us the opportunity to keep using  
the phone.
This is simply because we have access to the software and even to the  
hardware.


We don't need to trash our phone into the bin, because we got a new  
one, it's open
so we can reuse it for what ever (servo remote control, remoko,  
navigation only, ...)


I had fun with that video, because I am not that fan of iPhone, it's  
closed, you only could

develop in intel based Mac OS X - as my last information.

An advertisement could point that out by visually 'cite' that video  
and state, our phone is

even usable if retired :-)

Lothar

Am 24.02.2009 um 18:31 schrieb fla...@correo.ugr.es:


I came across this nice video:
http://www.bikinirama.de/img/user/Videos/BIKINIRAMA_iPhone_011_3224.mov

Have fun :-)

Lothar



What was that about? I don't understand the narrator. The only thing  
that

comes my mind is: JAILBREAKING.


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Re: OT: iPhone howto

2009-02-24 Thread Lothar Behrens

This is the translation about what they want to 'tell'.

http://de.babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=donett=urlintl=1fr=bf-hometrurl=http%3A%2F%2Fav.rds.yahoo.com%2F_ylt%3DA0geulgzOaRJk0AAbjqTLaMX%3B_ylu%3DX3oDMTBvdmM3bGlxBHBndANhdl93ZWJfcmVzdWx0BHNlYwNzcg--%2FSIG%3D12lm9u62v%2FEXP%3D1235585715%2F**http%253a%2F%2Fit-republik.de%2Fzonen%2Fportale%2Fpsecom%2Cid%2C99%2Cnews%2C39646%2C.htmllp=de_enbtnTrUrl=Übersetzen

Am 24.02.2009 um 16:23 schrieb Lothar Behrens:


I came across this nice video: 
http://www.bikinirama.de/img/user/Videos/BIKINIRAMA_iPhone_011_3224.mov

Have fun :-)

Lothar

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Re: OT: iPhone howto

2009-02-24 Thread Leonti Bielski
Thanks for clarifying. Now it actually makes sense!

I'm not fan of iPhone either (on of the reasons I'm proud OM owner :D )

I totally agree with this point of view.

Leonti

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Lothar Behrens
lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de wrote:
 This is the translation about what they want to 'tell'.
 http://de.babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=donett=urlintl=1fr=bf-hometrurl=http%3A%2F%2Fav.rds.yahoo.com%2F_ylt%3DA0geulgzOaRJk0AAbjqTLaMX%3B_ylu%3DX3oDMTBvdmM3bGlxBHBndANhdl93ZWJfcmVzdWx0BHNlYwNzcg--%2FSIG%3D12lm9u62v%2FEXP%3D1235585715%2F**http%253a%2F%2Fit-republik.de%2Fzonen%2Fportale%2Fpsecom%2Cid%2C99%2Cnews%2C39646%2C.htmllp=de_enbtnTrUrl=Übersetzen
 Am 24.02.2009 um 16:23 schrieb Lothar Behrens:

 I came across this nice
 video: http://www.bikinirama.de/img/user/Videos/BIKINIRAMA_iPhone_011_3224.mov
 Have fun :-)
 Lothar

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Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-24 Thread Suraj Barkale
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 4:54 AM, Andreas Willich andreas_will...@gmx.at wrote:
 Hi List


 I am currently developing a PIM synchronization app for the Neo
 (https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokosync/
 http://www.opkg.org/package_134.html )

 After a mail from c_c
 (http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-f528198 ) I got the idea
 to extend it to an application like the PC Suite app from Nokia.

 So you can send SMS from your PC, edit the various settings for the
 different applications (TangoGPS, Navit, ...), install applications and
 transfer files between PC and Neo.


 What do you think? Is such an application needed?

I was going to post here asking for the same thing! Have you looked at
Gammu (http://www.gammu.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page)? It is a
sync application compatible with many other phones. It would be nice
if we could uset it with freerunner.
Regards,
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Re: problems with special SMS+frameworkd

2009-02-24 Thread Andreas Kemnade
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:26:21 +0100
Jan Lübbe jlue...@lasnet.de wrote:

 On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 10:24 +0100, Andreas Kemnade wrote:
 This has been fixed in the current git version (which will be released
 as MS5.1 soon):
 http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=commit;h=ceef20a8780e2abc96d4f68e49ffb11fd208a0e7
 
Thanks.
  BTW:
  I cannot create a ticket on https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/newticket:
  TICKET_CREATE privileges are required to perform this operation
 
 You need to create an account to add tickets (for spam protection).
 
I also see the string
logged in as andi
on that page. So I have an account and I'm identified to that system.
I also have the verification mail I got when creating that account.
So what's going on there? I already tried to create a bug report some time ago.
But I had the same problem. 

Greetings
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Re: [debian] No right click with tslib 0.0.5-1+fso1

2009-02-24 Thread Sebastian Ohl
Hi,
On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 14:14 +0100, kimaidou wrote:
 Any application for testing the right-click ?
xev should do the trick. it not a very useful application(at least not
for things other than debugging). 

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Re: GPS - how to get lat lon and time from a bash script file ?

2009-02-24 Thread Ed Kapitein
Hi kimaidou,

on om 2008.12 do:

-1 in settings turn on gps hardware
-2 start gpsd (/etc/init.d/gpsd start)
-3 read the gps data (gpspipe -r)

To check if you have a fix, you might want to clean out the lines that
have no lat/long info like this:

gpspipe -r | grep GPGGA | grep -v ',,'

And to get it in a human readable format you can use
gpspipe -r | dd count=20 |  gpsbabel -i nmea -f - -o gpx -F -

Please read the man pages of gpsd, gpspipe, dd and gpsbabel, they are
good starting points for learning
bash scripting.

For me echo p | nc -w1 0 gpsd  is *not* working.

Kind regards,
Ed



kimaidou wrote:
 Hi all

 I come back after some tests. I would like to stick on bash script for
 several reasons (don't want to load another instance of python just to
 record some sound, etc.). So among your answer, I tried to use one of
 this line

 echo p | nc -w1 0 gpsd | tr -d '\r\n' | cut -d'=' -f2

 But I got nothing in return. Could you please be more specific :
 * do I need to start gpsd first
 * will this work on every distribution, or do I need to change gpsd by
 fso-gpsd or anything else ?
 * how do I know I have a fix before using this line ?

 Thanks in advance
 

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[SHR-ustable] gprs is also unstable

2009-02-24 Thread ivvmm
Hello community,

unstableness of SHR(which name claims stability) follows with instablity
of GPRS connection. Several minutes and it is over, you have to restart
it manually.

Does anyone else experience this?



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Re: OT: iPhone howto

2009-02-24 Thread arne anka
 Maybe this girl is saying something that makes it funny? I don't speak  
 German :(

even if you did -- it won't get neither funny nor sensible.
the interview lothar linked to is boring and brainless -- just like the  
video ...
by combination of the weapon of a beautiful woman [ie sexiness -- my  
clarification] and the traditional weapon of men, brutal force, bikinirama  
takes action against social conventions.
the most dangerous weapon of bikinirama is called 'wit'. (german 'geist'  
is one of these terms one hardly can translate adequately in one single  
word -- like 'kultur' or 'zeitgeist')

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Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-24 Thread Alexander Mueller
Excellent point. The Agenda PDA used this method of syncing or backing 
up. Well I use rsync a lot. But it is rather a one-way backup tool than 
a two way sync tool that takes care of collision resolving.

Alex


Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb:
 Alexander Mueller xelarel...@web.de writes:
 Especially with the Openmoko this is true after reflashing the device.
 
 Why not just rsync your home directory?
 
 (And also, I have not reflashed my device for at least 6 months, using
 debian here..)
 
 
 
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Re: HELP: sim card not registering...

2009-02-24 Thread David Pottage
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 09:25:50PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
   
 Hi,

 I'm switching operator and today I got m y new sim card. The current one
 will stop working in a few work days, so I'm desperate (YES, I use
 the Freerunner as my main day to day phone): it's not registering.

 I followed these instructions and they worked flawlessly:

  http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing

 Where this not enough?

 Where this not correct even though it worked?

 Please help...
 

 Well, a Nokia and an Ericcsson phone don't load it either so maybe the
 SIM card is borked. Ah well...
   
I had a similar situation where a prevously working SIM card stopped 
working in any phone, after being left in a Freerunner for about a month.

Is it possible that the Freerunner is somehow destroying SIM cards 
(heat, over voltage etc?)

The SIM card had previously worked fine in three different Nokia phones, 
then I put it in my Freerunner, and used it successfully for some calls 
and text messages. I then got busy with other things so I left my 
Freerunner on charge but not in use for about a month. After this period 
I found that the SIM card no longer worked in any phone.

In my case, my operator (Orange UK) was happy to send me a replacement.

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Re: [SHR unstable] bluez-utils bluez4

2009-02-24 Thread Jakob
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Valerio Valerio vdv...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Carl Lobo carll...@gmail.com wrote:
 bluez4 provides the 4.x branch of bluez rather than the 3.x branch. It 
 should
 provide the same functionality, but some bits may work differently. You 
 could
 try to install without dependencies to see if remoko will work with bluez4.

 I tried remoko with bluez4 and it keeps saying Waiting for connection
 from server or something indefinitely.. :(.
bluez4 has a different
 DBus API, maybe it requires some porting?

 Yup, the DBus API and other things are different in Bluez4, try to run
 ReMoko through ssh or in a console and paste the output here.

 Best regards,

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 http://www.valeriovalerio.org


When i run remoko with bluez4 installed it says this:
r...@neo ~ $ DISPLAY=:0 remoko
warning: x11-16 is not supported, fallback to x11
dbus_objectInit...
/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py:242:
DeprecationWarning: object.__init__() takes no parameters
  super(Connection, self).__init__(*args, **kwargs)
could not create proxy for
org.openmoko.accelges:/org/openmoko/accelges/Recognizer
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name
org.openmoko.accelges was not provided by any .service files
error in proxy
failcount= 0
dbus_objectInit...
usage ok Interface ProxyObject wrapping dbus._dbus.SystemBus
(system) at 0x29ef90 :1.10 /org/freesmartphone/Usage at 0x29f9d0
implementing 'org.freesmartphone.Usage' at 0x29fc10
failcount= 0
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/share/remoko/remoko/remoko, line 2103, in module
gui = GUI( options, args )
  File /usr/share/remoko/remoko/remoko, line 1537, in __init__
self.initialize_remoko_server()
  File /usr/share/remoko/remoko/remoko, line 1609, in initialize_remoko_server
self.connection = Connect()
  File /usr/share/remoko/remoko/remoko_server.py, line 43, in __init__
self.input = dbus.Interface(bus_input.get_object('org.bluez',
'/org/bluez/service_input'), 'org.bluez.Service')
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py, line 244, in get_object
follow_name_owner_changes=follow_name_owner_changes)
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py, line 241, in __init__
self._named_service = conn.activate_name_owner(bus_name)
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py, line 183, in
activate_name_owner
self.start_service_by_name(bus_name)
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py, line 281, in
start_service_by_name
'su', (bus_name, flags)))
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py, line
622, in call_blocking
message, timeout)
dbus.exceptions.DBusException:
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.bluez was not
provided by any .service files

yours

Jake

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GUI responsiveness (was Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?)

2009-02-24 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:32:09 +0100
Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote:

 Yorick Moko wrote:
  I (and surely others) am working on a leaner, faster theme - any
  eye-candy that distinctly impacts the user experience should NOT be
  default, and in this case we desperately need a simple and fast
  theme as the default or the immediate impression users will get
  is: Damn, this is slow!
 
  
  nice to hear that
  ugly and fast beats pretty and damn slow any day for me
  (pretty and fast would also be acceptable ;-))
 
 Pretty and fast should be possible then.
 
 There is no need for multiple layers of transparent icons. They can
 be collapsed into one layer with a single transparent icon, looking 
 _exactly_ the same.
 
 Effects when a icon is actually selected is another story, but that
 sort of thing should not need to impact scrolling.
 
 Helge Hafting

Therein lies the problem, in a sense.  (or a large part of it)

With the default.edj theme (Illume doesn't override it for Fileman,
which includes Illume icons) every icon on the 'desktop' initially
displays just the icon image, be it png, jpg, animated edj, whatever.
When you touch the screen to scroll it, it will highlight the touched
icon even if you don't actually select it.  When it highlights it, it
makes visible a 'background' png behind the icon, and two or three
layers of transparent pngs on top of the icon, to give the 'glass
button with an icon embedded in it' effect. Even when not visible (IE,
on at least all but one icon at a time) those extra pngs are there,
their positions are calculated AFAIK and their bitmaps are loaded.
(again, AFAIK - those two are internals of Enlightenment and I'm
guessing)  

But to make the user experience worse, whenever those extra pngs are
made visible or invisible, it uses an animated fade-in/fade-out.  So
every time you drag to scroll, it's busy animating a fade-out on the
previously highlighted icon, animating a fade-in on the one under your
finger, and scrolling all the transparent and invisible PNGs.  The
effect is quite attractive, if only the FR had the horsepower to manage
it while running a phone, GPS, and frameworkd. :(

With the present state of my altered Illume theme (serenity.edj) I've
trimmed the icons down to just the 'icon' image itself and a single png
that appears behind it when highlighted.  Outside the theme itself I've
disabled dropshadows and changed rendering, and disabled the battery
applet display (pending debugging - it sucks CPU apparently) and it
reduced Enlightenment cpu usage dramatically.  

But I found significant further savings by tweaking icons.  I've been
using some Oxygen icons, and because I always have the launcher at
'extra large' (3 icons across in portrait) I started out with the
256x256 oxygen icons.  Which are beautiful, but suck resources like
crazy. I figured changing to 128x128 would help but the problem was
almost exactly the same, while it looked worse on screen. So I did some
investigating and testing and found that if I prescale my icons to the
actual displayed size on the FR it responds great.  In this case,
that's 116x116 pixels.  (that's the icon itself at 'extra large' -
Illume displays the name below that, and the two of them are in IIRC a
162x142 tile)

So by prescaling to 116x116 pixel icons in Gimp I get the same memory
and CPU (hence UI responsiveness) as with much smaller (blotchier
after scaling) images.  'Large' launcher icons appear to be 76x76, and
'medium' 36x36.  This is theme-dependent though, as well as preferences
dependent - within the edje theme they can be scaled or resized or
whatever.  So a prepackaged icon theme would probably need to be scaled
to match a particular Illume theme's resulting sizes...  Even then, if
the user has utilized the useful 'scaling' settings it will probably
differ.  Still pondering the best answer here.

So right now, with the rescaled icons, removing excess icon adornments,
and disabling dropshadows and battery the SHR Illume is /almost/ as
smooth scrolling as 2008.x.  I also found that disabling animation of
the slipshelf drop-down etc helped significantly in making it feel more
responsive.  Overall, it feels like a completely different phone when I
switch back to the Illume theme.

j

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Re: [SHR unstable] bluez-utils bluez4

2009-02-24 Thread Jakob

 When i run remoko with bluez4 installed it says this:
 r...@neo ~ $ DISPLAY=:0 remoko
 warning: x11-16 is not supported, fallback to x11
 dbus_objectInit...
 /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py:242:
 DeprecationWarning: object.__init__() takes no parameters
  super(Connection, self).__init__(*args, **kwargs)
 could not create proxy for
 org.openmoko.accelges:/org/openmoko/accelges/Recognizer
 org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name
 org.openmoko.accelges was not provided by any .service files
 error in proxy
 failcount= 0
 dbus_objectInit...
 usage ok Interface ProxyObject wrapping dbus._dbus.SystemBus
 (system) at 0x29ef90 :1.10 /org/freesmartphone/Usage at 0x29f9d0
 implementing 'org.freesmartphone.Usage' at 0x29fc10
 failcount= 0
 Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/share/remoko/remoko/remoko, line 2103, in module
    gui = GUI( options, args )
  File /usr/share/remoko/remoko/remoko, line 1537, in __init__
    self.initialize_remoko_server()
  File /usr/share/remoko/remoko/remoko, line 1609, in 
 initialize_remoko_server
    self.connection = Connect()
  File /usr/share/remoko/remoko/remoko_server.py, line 43, in __init__
    self.input = dbus.Interface(bus_input.get_object('org.bluez',
 '/org/bluez/service_input'), 'org.bluez.Service')
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py, line 244, in get_object
    follow_name_owner_changes=follow_name_owner_changes)
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py, line 241, in 
 __init__
    self._named_service = conn.activate_name_owner(bus_name)
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py, line 183, in
 activate_name_owner
    self.start_service_by_name(bus_name)
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py, line 281, in
 start_service_by_name
    'su', (bus_name, flags)))
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py, line
 622, in call_blocking
    message, timeout)
 dbus.exceptions.DBusException:
 org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.bluez was not
 provided by any .service files

 yours

 Jake

I'm sorry this output seems to come from my bluetooth not working. I
probabably messted something up with all that bluez-utils and bluez4
installing and removing..

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Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-24 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 24 February 2009, Alexander Mueller wrote:
 Excellent point. The Agenda PDA used this method of syncing or backing
 up. Well I use rsync a lot. But it is rather a one-way backup tool than
 a two way sync tool that takes care of collision resolving.

Have you tried Unison? It does two way sync with conflict flagging, and works 
across platforms.

 Alex

 Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb:
  Alexander Mueller xelarel...@web.de writes:
  Especially with the Openmoko this is true after reflashing the device.
 
  Why not just rsync your home directory?
 
  (And also, I have not reflashed my device for at least 6 months, using
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Re: OT: iPhone howto

2009-02-24 Thread GNUtoo
 I came across this nice video:
 http://www.bikinirama.de/img/user/Videos/BIKINIRAMA_iPhone_011_3224.mov

 Have fun :-)

 Lothar


 What was that about? I don't understand the narrator. The only thing that
 comes my mind is: JAILBREAKING.
jailbreaking is the first step...
Then you need to install GNU/Linux on it(or wait for it beeing ready for
your use)
but some problem that are hardware related remain such as:
*no replacable battery
*(I don't like touchscreen that can't be used with a stylus...)


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Re: [SHR] Revealing/Hiding my caller id

2009-02-24 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
Indeed I have the same question for SHR now : how can I reveal or hide 
my phone number to my correspondents ?

Xavier.


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Re: OT: iPhone howto

2009-02-24 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Whaaat? iPhone touchscreen can't be used with a stylus?? What is it, heat
sensitive or something?
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Lack of structured information

2009-02-24 Thread Filip Onkelinx
Hi all,

Since several months I'm trying to do some constructive development on my  
FreeRunner, but unfortunately I find myself spending way more time on  
finding trivial information compared to the time spent on actual coding.

I'm not looking for extensive manuals or generic linux info, just looking  
for minimalistic information which is specific to the FR.
- e.g. sysfs is supposed to be an interface between kernelspace and  
userspace, so I would expect it to be documented for at least the basics.
- lack of changelogs for downloads, including kernels, filesystem-images,  
srctarballs etc. When using a modern tracking system, changelogs do not  
present an additional effort, they are automatically generated from commit  
messages and are generated out-of-the-box and provide extremely valuable  
information to users / other developers.

To give just one example:
A simple question like 'is my FR running from battery, USB or wallcharger  
?'. With the recent kernel changes, most of these seem to have changed,  
but where are these documented ?
In order to find the answer, I had to check the kernel sourcecode, google,  
and do some trial  error tests . And even now I'm not sure I have it 100%  
correct.

what I found:
in /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-mbc/ there is a  
power_supply:ac , power_supply:adapter and power_supply:usb
usb is clear, but I'm still not sure I correctly understand the difference  
between 'adapter' and 'ac'.

I would expect OpenMoko to at least document the different  
files/Attributes which are platform dependant, and a changelog to indicate  
important changes having impact on userland applications / interfaces as  
well as known bugs (like the current usb crashes XP bug).

sorry for my rantings, but I would love to code  contribute, not to spent  
hours looking for some basic information...

Cheers,

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Re: Introducing CellHunter (Update 0.4.1)

2009-02-24 Thread Sebastian Hammerl
Soon after releasing i found a bug causes cellhunter to freeze.

Sorry for that, the fixed version 0.4.1 is out now!

check out http://cellhunter.omoco.de

Sebastian

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Re: OT: iPhone howto

2009-02-24 Thread Leonti Bielski
It's capacitive. It responds only to human finger or special big-ass stylus.
In both cases you can't get that kind of precision you can get with
resistive touchscreen(like in openmoko).

Leonti

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 11:17 PM, The Digital Pioneer
digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote:
 Whaaat? iPhone touchscreen can't be used with a stylus?? What is it, heat
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Re: OT: iPhone howto

2009-02-24 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 24 February 2009, The Digital Pioneer wrote:
 Whaaat? iPhone touchscreen can't be used with a stylus?? What is it, heat
 sensitive or something?

Capacitive. Doesn't work with a stylus, fingernail or gloves. Not good if you 
have particularly dry fingertips either. The G1 has the same problem. You can 
get a special stylus for them, but the tip's about the size of a small 
fingertip. The advantage is you can use a relatively robust glass screen 
that's more pocket-proof than a resistive screen like the one on the OM. 


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Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?

2009-02-24 Thread Fernando Martins
Xavier Cremaschi wrote:
 I cannot make it working. Hardware is ok since it worked with Om2008.8, 
 timezone/time is good, but no fix... 'telnet localhost 2947' always 
 output same 'empty' data.

   
Someone recently (2 weeks ago or so) posted some steps to solve this. 
Unfortunately I didn't bookmark it and I can't look for it right now.

Fernando

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Re: Lack of structured information

2009-02-24 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
Your points are good and you have defined a good area to pay atention
sysfs ,but you have to consider that .28 kernels are not being adopted
by any official Openmoko release yet, but start working on a wiki
draft of 2.6.28 sysfs is a pretty good idea.

2009/2/24 Filip Onkelinx fi...@linux4.be:
 Hi all,

 Since several months I'm trying to do some constructive development on my
 FreeRunner, but unfortunately I find myself spending way more time on
 finding trivial information compared to the time spent on actual coding.

 I'm not looking for extensive manuals or generic linux info, just looking
 for minimalistic information which is specific to the FR.
 - e.g. sysfs is supposed to be an interface between kernelspace and
 userspace, so I would expect it to be documented for at least the basics.
 - lack of changelogs for downloads, including kernels, filesystem-images,
 srctarballs etc. When using a modern tracking system, changelogs do not
 present an additional effort, they are automatically generated from commit
 messages and are generated out-of-the-box and provide extremely valuable
 information to users / other developers.

 To give just one example:
 A simple question like 'is my FR running from battery, USB or wallcharger
 ?'. With the recent kernel changes, most of these seem to have changed,
 but where are these documented ?
 In order to find the answer, I had to check the kernel sourcecode, google,
 and do some trial  error tests . And even now I'm not sure I have it 100%
 correct.

 what I found:
 in /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-mbc/ there is a
 power_supply:ac , power_supply:adapter and power_supply:usb
 usb is clear, but I'm still not sure I correctly understand the difference
 between 'adapter' and 'ac'.

 I would expect OpenMoko to at least document the different
 files/Attributes which are platform dependant, and a changelog to indicate
 important changes having impact on userland applications / interfaces as
 well as known bugs (like the current usb crashes XP bug).

 sorry for my rantings, but I would love to code  contribute, not to spent
 hours looking for some basic information...

 Cheers,

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Re: [2008.12] Enlightenment doesn't want to run anymore

2009-02-24 Thread Flyin_bbb8
no one has any idea what the segfault could be caused from?
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Re: OT: iPhone howto

2009-02-24 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Hmm, interesting. Well, I have to agree with GNUtoo. Not worth the tradeoff,
IMO.
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Re: [2008.12] Enlightenment doesn't want to run anymore

2009-02-24 Thread roguemoko
Flyin_bbb8 wrote:
 no one has any idea what the segfault could be caused from?

I haven't seen the original mail but it's most likely a botched 
update/missing library or incompatible library/binary. Make sure you're 
not mixing repos and/or stick to a stable branch.

Reflash is all I can suggest.

Good luck.

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Re: (Qi) Qi or bust, or: what do I do wrong?

2009-02-24 Thread roguemoko
Paul wrote:
 roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote:
 When I feel adventurous again (and I have more time again), I may play 
 with it some more.
 
 Well when you do, remove your SD card first. I'm almost positive you 
 would have at least been able to boot otherwise.
 ...
 My problem can be fixed with a few text files though :)
   
 
 My problem was fixed by putting u-boot back. :-)

Of course :) ... TBH I prefer u-boot, mainly because I know how to 
customise it and tri-boot with ease :)

 But thank you for the tips, I can use them next time I feel up to Qi!

I think Qi will be great once I've decided on a specific distro and I 
don't have the requirement of needing to select a different one on a 
regular basis. The boot speed is negligible when you have to keep 
removing the battery due to the wrong kernel loading :)

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Re: HELP: sim card not registering...

2009-02-24 Thread xChris

read this post :

http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-fn1958
http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-fn1958 

Maybe its a serious hardware bug/fault here!

What's the manuf.date of your Freerunner?

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Re: [2008.12] Enlightenment doesn't want to run anymore

2009-02-24 Thread Flyin_bbb8
here's the original mail  i installed were pythm , mplayer then i
uninstalled them, after a reboot the screen shows

starting atd daemon:atd.  last thing and nothing after, i tried running
/etc/init.d/xserver-nodm start, and looked at log in /tmp/x.log

#  RUN INIT: /usr/bin/enlightenment_init
'/usr/share/enlightenment/data/init/illume_init.edj'
'1' '0' 'Enlightenment' '0.16.999.050'
#  Segmentation fault
#  ESTART: 1.77762 [0.95707] - test file format support
#  run-parts: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90xXWindowManager exited with code 1011

#  waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE built-ins refcount
is 2, should be 1; fixing.

this is with illume as default_profile, i change that to ASU and i get the
following, i can see the booting screen with the green bar for around 0.2
second then back to the atd , now /tmp/x.log shows


# RUN INIT: /usr/bin/enlightenment_init
'/usr/share/enlightenment/data/init/asu_init.edj' '4' '0' 'Enlightenment'
'0.16.999.050'
# ESTART: 2.46682 [1.61394] - test file format support
# run-parts: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90xXWindowManager exited with code 1011
# waiting for X server to shut down E17 INIT: XINERAMA CHOSEN: [0],
480x640+0+0
# FreeFontPath: FPE built-ins refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.

where can i go from here!?

another thing worth mentioning is that couple of days ago the thing stopped
at starting atd daemon:atd. again but Xglamo wasn't starting, i went to
check /usr/bin/Xglamo to find that it's 0 bytes!, i just scp a new one from
a 2008.12.tar.gz back to freerunner and it worked again.




and no i only added angstrom repo to install mplayer then removed it , i
wonder what 1011 exit code means?
# run-parts: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90xXWindowManager exited with code 1011
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Re: Introducing CellHunter (Update 0.4.1)

2009-02-24 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello.

On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 23:38, Sebastian Hammerl wrote:
 Soon after releasing i found a bug causes cellhunter to freeze.
 
 Sorry for that, the fixed version 0.4.1 is out now!

Bugfix releases are always good. Pushed and the autobuilder should take care
that it pops up in the feed the next hours.

BTW, during the build I get some QA comments from bitbake about the desktop
file. Perhaps worth to fix, not critical though.

ERROR: QA Issue:
/home/stefan/Projekte/OpenEmbedded/build/openmoko/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/cellhunter-0.4.1-r0/install/cellhunter/usr/share/applications/cellhunter.desktop:
warning: key Encoding in group Desktop Entry is deprecated
ERROR: QA Issue:
/home/stefan/Projekte/OpenEmbedded/build/openmoko/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/cellhunter-0.4.1-r0/install/cellhunter/usr/share/applications/cellhunter.desktop:
warning: value cellhunter.png for key Icon in group Desktop Entry is an
icon name with an extension, but there should be no extension as described in
the Icon Theme Specification if the value is not an absolute path
ERROR: QA Issue:
/home/stefan/Projekte/OpenEmbedded/build/openmoko/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/cellhunter-0.4.1-r0/install/cellhunter/usr/share/applications/cellhunter.desktop:
error: value Applications for string list key Categories in group Desktop
Entry does not have a semicolon (';') as trailing character
ERROR: QA Issue:
/home/stefan/Projekte/OpenEmbedded/build/openmoko/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/cellhunter-0.4.1-r0/install/cellhunter/usr/share/applications/cellhunter.desktop:
error: file contains key SingleInstance in group Desktop Entry, but keys
extending the format should start with X-

regards
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[All] TangoGPS 0.9.6 package?

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Re: Introducing CellHunter (Update 0.4.1)

2009-02-24 Thread Sebastian Hammerl
Stefan Schmidt schrieb:
 Hello.

 On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 23:38, Sebastian Hammerl wrote:
   
 Soon after releasing i found a bug causes cellhunter to freeze.

 Sorry for that, the fixed version 0.4.1 is out now!
 

 Bugfix releases are always good. Pushed and the autobuilder should take care
 that it pops up in the feed the next hours.

 BTW, during the build I get some QA comments from bitbake about the desktop
 file. Perhaps worth to fix, not critical though.

 ERROR: QA Issue:
 /home/stefan/Projekte/OpenEmbedded/build/openmoko/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/cellhunter-0.4.1-r0/install/cellhunter/usr/share/applications/cellhunter.desktop:
 warning: key Encoding in group Desktop Entry is deprecated
 ERROR: QA Issue:
 /home/stefan/Projekte/OpenEmbedded/build/openmoko/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/cellhunter-0.4.1-r0/install/cellhunter/usr/share/applications/cellhunter.desktop:
 warning: value cellhunter.png for key Icon in group Desktop Entry is an
 icon name with an extension, but there should be no extension as described in
 the Icon Theme Specification if the value is not an absolute path
 ERROR: QA Issue:
 /home/stefan/Projekte/OpenEmbedded/build/openmoko/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/cellhunter-0.4.1-r0/install/cellhunter/usr/share/applications/cellhunter.desktop:
 error: value Applications for string list key Categories in group Desktop
 Entry does not have a semicolon (';') as trailing character
 ERROR: QA Issue:
 /home/stefan/Projekte/OpenEmbedded/build/openmoko/tmp/work/armv4t-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/cellhunter-0.4.1-r0/install/cellhunter/usr/share/applications/cellhunter.desktop:
 error: file contains key SingleInstance in group Desktop Entry, but keys
 extending the format should start with X-

   
i will take care of it in the next release, i think its not worth enough
for its own :)
 regards
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Re: [2008.12] Enlightenment doesn't want to run anymore

2009-02-24 Thread roguemoko
Flyin_bbb8 wrote:
 here's the original mail  i installed were pythm , mplayer then i 
 uninstalled them, after a reboot the screen shows
  
 starting atd daemon:atd.  last thing and nothing after, i tried 
 running /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm start, and looked at log in /tmp/x.log
 
 #  RUN INIT: /usr/bin/enlightenment_init '/usr/share/enlightenment/
 data/init/illume_init.edj' '1' '0' 'Enlightenment' '0.16.999.050'
 #  Segmentation fault
 #  ESTART: 1.77762 [0.95707] - test file format support
[...snip...]
 #  run-parts: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90xXWindowManager exited with code 1011
 and no i only added angstrom repo to install mplayer then removed it , i 
 wonder what 1011 exit code means?
 # run-parts: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90xXWindowManager exited with code 1011

Unfortunately I don't have the time to trace your error. This is 
probably a question only a dev could answer or someone with intimate 
knowledge of rc components.

My best guess would be that either your config is causing a problem 
(something along the lines of rm -r ~/.e may fix ... or maybe more 
xserver specific configs) or something from angstrom was pulled in and 
not removed or overwritten. If you are getting a segfault then the 
latter is probably more likely.

In the end, when playing with repositories outside the control of OM, 
you have to be prepared to reflash or delve deep to clean up the mess, 
if one occurs.

Good luck!

Sarton

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Re: Recommended SIM for Italy ?

2009-02-24 Thread Takke

Hi guys,

I received the Freerunner today and I went trough the same issues with a
128KB Vodafone SIM.
All you have to do is to follow (as suggested) _carefully_  this guide [0]
and I can confirm that your brad new vodafone SIM will start working
properly.

Bye,
 Takke

[0] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing
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Re: Squashfs module for newer kernels

2009-02-24 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:

| Simple question, why did the squashfs kernel module disappear in the
| 2.6.28/29 builds. It was there for .24?
|
| Can it be brought back? I spent a weekend of CPU time building a
| smallish image of the English wikipedia, only to find I cannot use it on
| the moko :)

I added this as a module to the default configs, but actually we don't
directly control the config used for packaging kernels in a given distro.

I hope people are basing it off
arch/arm/configs/gta02_packaging_defconfig in which case packages built
from now on will have the module.

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Re: Lack of structured information

2009-02-24 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:

| Your points are good and you have defined a good area to pay atention
| sysfs ,but you have to consider that .28 kernels are not being adopted
| by any official Openmoko release yet, but start working on a wiki
| draft of 2.6.28 sysfs is a pretty good idea.

For 2.6.24 kernels I started this page and it has been added to by others:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs

so there's a good deal of structured information there specific to
sysfs.  You can find it by just searching sysfs in the Wiki.

Stuff changed along with suspend - resume fixed and driver rewrites in
the last couple of kernel versions.  I posted a mapping for 2.6.28 here

http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1569863

Some of these are changing slightly as we go on.  So we will update the
sysfs wiki page with the new ones soon.

But, you shouldn't take that there is no documentation about sysfs, all
the important guys are on that page.

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Re: Lack of structured information

2009-02-24 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
More over, the idea of the FSO odeviced API is that you no longer need
to worry about sysfs paths anyways. If there's something you are
missing, toss us a mail to smartphones-standa...@linuxtogo.org

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Re: GUI responsiveness (was Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?)

2009-02-24 Thread HouYu Li
Sounds amazing. But where can we get the serenity.edj theme???

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 5:18 AM, Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us wrote:

 On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:32:09 +0100
 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote:

  Yorick Moko wrote:
   I (and surely others) am working on a leaner, faster theme - any
   eye-candy that distinctly impacts the user experience should NOT be
   default, and in this case we desperately need a simple and fast
   theme as the default or the immediate impression users will get
   is: Damn, this is slow!
  
  
   nice to hear that
   ugly and fast beats pretty and damn slow any day for me
   (pretty and fast would also be acceptable ;-))
 
  Pretty and fast should be possible then.
 
  There is no need for multiple layers of transparent icons. They can
  be collapsed into one layer with a single transparent icon, looking
  _exactly_ the same.
 
  Effects when a icon is actually selected is another story, but that
  sort of thing should not need to impact scrolling.
 
  Helge Hafting

 Therein lies the problem, in a sense.  (or a large part of it)

 With the default.edj theme (Illume doesn't override it for Fileman,
 which includes Illume icons) every icon on the 'desktop' initially
 displays just the icon image, be it png, jpg, animated edj, whatever.
 When you touch the screen to scroll it, it will highlight the touched
 icon even if you don't actually select it.  When it highlights it, it
 makes visible a 'background' png behind the icon, and two or three
 layers of transparent pngs on top of the icon, to give the 'glass
 button with an icon embedded in it' effect. Even when not visible (IE,
 on at least all but one icon at a time) those extra pngs are there,
 their positions are calculated AFAIK and their bitmaps are loaded.
 (again, AFAIK - those two are internals of Enlightenment and I'm
 guessing)

 But to make the user experience worse, whenever those extra pngs are
 made visible or invisible, it uses an animated fade-in/fade-out.  So
 every time you drag to scroll, it's busy animating a fade-out on the
 previously highlighted icon, animating a fade-in on the one under your
 finger, and scrolling all the transparent and invisible PNGs.  The
 effect is quite attractive, if only the FR had the horsepower to manage
 it while running a phone, GPS, and frameworkd. :(

 With the present state of my altered Illume theme (serenity.edj) I've
 trimmed the icons down to just the 'icon' image itself and a single png
 that appears behind it when highlighted.  Outside the theme itself I've
 disabled dropshadows and changed rendering, and disabled the battery
 applet display (pending debugging - it sucks CPU apparently) and it
 reduced Enlightenment cpu usage dramatically.

 But I found significant further savings by tweaking icons.  I've been
 using some Oxygen icons, and because I always have the launcher at
 'extra large' (3 icons across in portrait) I started out with the
 256x256 oxygen icons.  Which are beautiful, but suck resources like
 crazy. I figured changing to 128x128 would help but the problem was
 almost exactly the same, while it looked worse on screen. So I did some
 investigating and testing and found that if I prescale my icons to the
 actual displayed size on the FR it responds great.  In this case,
 that's 116x116 pixels.  (that's the icon itself at 'extra large' -
 Illume displays the name below that, and the two of them are in IIRC a
 162x142 tile)

 So by prescaling to 116x116 pixel icons in Gimp I get the same memory
 and CPU (hence UI responsiveness) as with much smaller (blotchier
 after scaling) images.  'Large' launcher icons appear to be 76x76, and
 'medium' 36x36.  This is theme-dependent though, as well as preferences
 dependent - within the edje theme they can be scaled or resized or
 whatever.  So a prepackaged icon theme would probably need to be scaled
 to match a particular Illume theme's resulting sizes...  Even then, if
 the user has utilized the useful 'scaling' settings it will probably
 differ.  Still pondering the best answer here.

 So right now, with the rescaled icons, removing excess icon adornments,
 and disabling dropshadows and battery the SHR Illume is /almost/ as
 smooth scrolling as 2008.x.  I also found that disabling animation of
 the slipshelf drop-down etc helped significantly in making it feel more
 responsive.  Overall, it feels like a completely different phone when I
 switch back to the Illume theme.

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Re: [SHR unstable] bluez-utils bluez4

2009-02-24 Thread Carl Lobo
You need bluetoothd started (in bluez4) for org.bluez to be available on dbus.
ps ax | grep bluetoothd | grep -v grep
should tell you if it's running.
Mine just kept saying something like Waiting for connection from
remoko-server in an endless loop even after I pressed control-c. I
had to kill -9 the process. Maybe the remoko server isn't compatible
with bluez4?

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Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?

2009-02-24 Thread Carl Lobo
Is fso-gpsd running? Try restarting it from Settings/Services. GPS
seems to be working fine for me with my last update on Monday..

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Re: GUI responsiveness (was Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?)

2009-02-24 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:19:37 +0800
HouYu Li kara...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sounds amazing. But where can we get the serenity.edj theme???
 

Nowhere right now, I'm working on it.  I've gotten a few thing just
how I want them, others as yet untouched, and occasional bugs.
Started with illume.edj, imported some pieces of default.edj to make
overriding them easier, and started in changing the look.  Probably
2/3 done now, but I've kept restarting as I changed from 2008.x to FSO
to SHR and so on and kept resyncing my changes to the newest Illume
changes.

j
 

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