[SHR] Phonelog and hidden caller ids
Hi folks, phonelog crashes as soon as someone calls me from a phone with hidden caller id. There is a simple problem in /usr/bin/phonelog : the output of the error message fails because of a problem of python string and int concatenation. It seems easy to fix, by replacing : print foo + call + bar by print foo %d bar % call (never done anything in python, so not sure) But, by reading the code, it seems that phonelog will just output a message saying hey dude, delete call from database and relaunch, so does anybody has or is able to modify phonelog to handle this kind of caller-without-id ? Btw db still grows, so even if the app cannot be launched the FR still logs calls. Xavier Cremaschi. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: yaml rule to stop suspending when using gps
Klaus Kurzmann wrote: in addition to the ophonekitd bugs there was also a bug in frameworkd regarding the release of the display resource. All that should be fixed now and hit you with opkg update upgrade I'll install the new testing image when it shows up at the website then. I also have a problem with turning the backlight timeout on/off in SHR settings. Sometimes, it times out even if I have the timeout turned with the slider. I'll check if that is fixed too. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2008.x] Terminal with UTF-8 support wanted
Hello, I need in my FR a Terminal which can handle UTF-8 output; r...@om-gta02:~# DISPLAY=:0 export DISPLAY r...@om-gta02:~# LANG=es_ES.UTF-8 export LANG r...@om-gta02:~# openmoko-terminal2 (openmoko-terminal2:1887): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. moko-terminal constructed (openmoko-terminal2:1887): Vte-WARNING **: can not run /usr/libexec/gnome-pty-helper update_toolbar current font size for terminal is 5 on_idle on_idle_first_command analog for 'xterm'; Is there some way to get UTF-8 support? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] To build a better music player
Dylan Reilly wrote: I am not seeing this problem. Can you look through /etc/pythm.log and see if there is anything interesting in there, or send it to me? $ pythm No Locale found, falling back! Error was:[Errno 2] No translation file found for domain: 'pythm' new conf using gstreamer backend /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py:242: DeprecationWarning: object.__init__() takes no parameters super(Connection, self).__init__(*args, **kwargs) error executing:[Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/media/card/Music/Albums' (The last message is ok, I have my music in a different directory. Usually, navigating there is possible though. But now, the up button does nothing and the file list is empty. After quitting, this happens:) delete event occurred destroy signal occurred Exception in thread Thread-2 (most likely raised during interpreter shutdown): Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/python2.6/threading.py, line 522, in __bootstrap_inner File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pythm/backend/backend.py, line 496, in run type 'exceptions.TypeError': 'NoneType' object is not callable Exception in thread Thread-3 (most likely raised during interpreter shutdown): Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/python2.6/threading.py, line 522, in __bootstrap_inner File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pythm/backend/backend.py, line 496, in run type 'exceptions.TypeError': 'NoneType' object is not callable Exception in thread Thread-1 (most likely raised during interpreter shutdown): Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/python2.6/threading.py, line 522, in __bootstrap_inner File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pythm/backend/backend.py, line 496, in run type 'exceptions.TypeError': 'NoneType' object is not callable And here is /tmp/pythm.log : 2009-03-02 10:35:40,663 DEBUG Unable to set no suspend: org.freesmartphone.Usage.UserUnknown: User :1.30 did not request CPU before releasing it 2009-03-02 10:36:31,734 DEBUG Unable to set no suspend: org.freesmartphone.Usage.UserUnknown: User :1.30 did not request CPU before releasing it Nothing about my problems, but it apparently have problems turning off suspend. Maybe SHR changed this part? I changed the music directory in /etc/pythm.conf. This time, the album list came up. It'd be nice if a wrong album directory still allows one to go up in the directory structure - one can then navigate manually to were the music is. This was possible before. Playing the music still fails. I get the correct song length displayed, and the seconds counts up. But I can't hear anything, even if I turn the volume to 100%. With or without earphones makes no difference. Output from pythm: $ pythm No Locale found, falling back! Error was:[Errno 2] No translation file found for domain: 'pythm' new conf using gstreamer backend /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py:242: DeprecationWarning: object.__init__() takes no parameters super(Connection, self).__init__(*args, **kwargs) (pythm-bin:11766): GStreamer-WARNING **: Name volume is not unique in bin player, not adding (pythm-bin:11766): GStreamer-WARNING **: Name volume is not unique in bin player, not adding Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/python2.6/logging/__init__.py, line 754, in emit msg = self.format(record) File /usr/lib/python2.6/logging/__init__.py, line 637, in format return fmt.format(record) File /usr/lib/python2.6/logging/__init__.py, line 425, in format record.message = record.getMessage() File /usr/lib/python2.6/logging/__init__.py, line 295, in getMessage msg = msg % self.args TypeError: not all arguments converted during string formatting (pythm-bin:11766): GStreamer-WARNING **: Element output is not in bin player The logfile now shows this: $ cat /tmp/pythm.log 2009-03-02 10:39:41,165 DEBUG Unable to set no suspend: org.freesmartphone.Usage.UserUnknown: User :1.31 did not request CPU before releasing it 2009-03-02 10:40:15,658 DEBUG Going to play song: /media/card/musikk/Pink Floyd - The Wall/02 The Thin Ice.ogg 2009-03-02 10:40:15,685 DEBUG Need to load the song. 2009-03-02 10:40:15,749 ERROR Error loading song Pink Floyd - The Thin Ice into player 0: Could not add element 'volume' 2009-03-02 10:40:19,547 DEBUG Async loading new song into player: 1 2009-03-02 10:40:19,554 DEBUG Async next song is: /media/card/musikk/Pink Floyd - The Wall/03 Another Brick In The Wall, Part I.ogg 2009-03-02 10:40:19,581 ERROR Error loading song Pink Floyd - Another Brick In The Wall, Part 1 into player 1: Could not add element 'volume' 2009-03-02 10:42:15,893 DEBUG Going to play song: /media/card/musikk/Pink Floyd - The Wall/03 Another Brick In The Wall, Part I.ogg 2009-03-02 10:42:15,903 DEBUG Song already loaded. 2009-03-02 10:42:16,084 DEBUG Unable to set no suspend: org.freesmartphone.Usage.UserExists: User :1.31 already requested CPU 2009-03-02 10:42:19,317 DEBUG
Re: [Om2008.x] Terminal with UTF-8 support wanted
Hi, On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: Is there some way to get UTF-8 support? Thx You need to install a UTF-8 locale. To see which locales you have installed, run locale -a Unfortunately, I don't remember the package names for locales. But with an UTF-8 locale installed, I know that at least vala-terminal works and can display UTF-8 encoded text correctly. Best regards, Olof Sjöbergh ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.x] Terminal with UTF-8 support wanted
El día Monday, March 02, 2009 a las 11:14:41AM +0100, Olof Sjobergh escribió: Hi, On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: Is there some way to get UTF-8 support? Thx You need to install a UTF-8 locale. To see which locales you have installed, run locale -a Unfortunately, I don't remember the package names for locales. But with an UTF-8 locale installed, I know that at least vala-terminal works and can display UTF-8 encoded text correctly. r...@om-gta02:~# locale -a -sh: locale: not found r...@om-gta02:~# vala-terminal -sh: vala-terminal: not found r...@om-gta02:~# seems that I don't have both :-( any idea? matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GUI responsiveness (was Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?)
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
i really suggest you have a better look at the code. it uses timepoints.
Good advice. Critic based on assumptions isn't good enough.
Still, the problem remain. The user interface is a bit on the slow side.
And it doesn't have to - simplified themes are faster.
Eye candy is nice - but not when it cause performance problems. eye
candy is also nice for showing off a great product - but this backfires
when it demonstrates slowness.
[enlightenment graphichs explanation deleted]
Maybe we ought to use a modified duke nukem as an app launcher interface
instead of enlightenment. Duke has a _better_ framerate for scrolling
and zooming - in 3D!
and runs in 8bpp and doesnt alpha blend, doesnt do interpolated scaling.
doesnt
do a tonne of things.
Well, it was a joke. Duke gets much speed from low resolution.
Still - it raises questions. Do we want the resolution, 16bpp, alpha
blend and so on?
I happen to like the high resolution and color depth. So perhaps
scrolling cannot go really fast in my case, and instead must to big
jumps to keep up with finger speed. It'd still be nice if it was more
responsive - scrolling start noticeably later than the dragging.
btw - scrolling issues were also a problem of the event loop in some ways and
has been fixed in the meantime - but you are unlikely to see those fixes until
fso/shr or om2008.x update. (basically it was getting and actually responding
to
more mouse events than it could handle delaying rendering even more than it
should have been 0 i fixed that. it shouldnt have been doing it but somewhere
along the way a excess mouse move filter got removed and i dont know
when/where
so i put one back in). it all went smooth again.
Good to hear! Even more to look forward to in future distribution
upgrades. :-)
[...]
I wish people though more about efficiency. One can have all sorts of
wonderful effects by precomouting some stuff _once_, and then use plain
bit block transfers. 1990 game machines was weaker than the FR, but that
did not seem to be a problem then.
as per my other mail. the reason i DIDNT do this is that there is a tradeoff -
every precompute means u have to store it. storing means using up more ram,
and
using less cpu. you give up one resource for another. ALSO you need to
Right, wasting too much memory is not the way to go either.
intelligently differentiate dynamic data vs static. lets say u have a vidoe
that changes data every frame - there is zero point in computing a scaled
version and making a copy of it to keep as next frame it will be different.
same for when the image or data keeps changing size. each frame its a new
size.
again - pointless to keep a copy. its not so easy just to precompute it
makes
coding life harder as the programmer now needs to do this in advance. you want
the api to figure it out for u and just do it by magic. as i said - i have a
patch that added a scalecache that does this, but it also introduced bugs and
thus isnt in. i havent had time ot come back to it lately - but its on my todo
list.
Yes, I understand this is hard to do in the general case.
The application launcher's icon collection is a specific case though.
The icons seem to be static, and they can be scaled once. (Actually,
whenever the user resets the icon size or install more apps.)
believe it or not evas's software engine is REALLY efficient and fast. it gets
both quality and speed. it plays some other tricks you barely even know exist.
i know about all these game engine tricks- i started life writing game engines
in assembly. i have just specifically chosen to handle certain paths for
certain reasons. and to date those paths have worked extremely well for the
workloads they were given. those paths were a LOT more dynamic with new data,
new/different sizes and much less re-use of images/.data at the same size
where
caching would help.
[...]
Scary stuff. An interpreted language just for the icon set.
again - you need to actually do your research. it's not interpreted at
all. .edc's are a data structure. they declare what becomes an in-memory
object tree with properties. they get compiled to binary .edj files that are
loaded and converted to real life objects REALLY FAST. its highly optimised.
they also cache and share instances so it only loads the 1 edje group once -
it
then just references the already loaded one and makes copies runtime. it keeps
them around even when not references speculatively in case they are needed
again. the only interpreted part is embryo script {} sections. inside of that
is also not interpreted like python or perl. its bytecompiled into a very
small efficient bytecode language. its stored in the .edj as bytecode so
simply loaded up - never compiled or interpreted at runtime as you see it. the
bytecode engine is VERY fast. it's 2x the speed of the jvm. it's 40x faster
than
python. 20x faster than perl or
Re: GTA03 Touchscreen Capacitive (was Re: OT: iPhone howto)
William Kenworthy wrote: I can see the reasons for this ($'s in the door), but theres no reason the gta04 wont be more like what we want. Even if its still got a 640x480 screen, I wont be buying a gta03 unless it BOTH is an advance on the FR (which means it stays with a resistive screen), and I can actually see and test its working. (once bitten, twice ...) I don't plan on bying new phones too often, certainly not just because some new model came out. It'd ahve to have a clear advantage too. But there is nothing wrong in them having two lines of phone - one with hacker appeal and one with mass-market appeal to bring in the money. The hacker phones will be smaller series, but they attract people who does lots of free development. Lots of open-source apps, many which will work fine on the mass-market phones as well, making them more popular. If the mass-market phone succeeds, then they will be made in large series. That makes it possible to get more interesting parts, perhaps even 3G someday. Of course, some of these mass-purchased parts can go into the next small-series of hackerphones has well. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button
c_c wrote: Hi, The freerunner and 1973 have only 2 buttons. While the power button is being used for suspend and for switching off, the 'AUX' button seems under utilised. I was wondering whether there could be a method added to FSO that allowed overloading of this button based on the context. For eg :- 1. Under normal circumstances (not in a call or app - that could change this usage), the button could be used for selecting between 3 brightness settings in rotation. With SHR, the normal use for AUX is to lock/unlock the screen. This is useful when you can't suspend, but still want to put the phone in a pocket where accidental pressing may happen. For example, when the gps is in use when walking/bicycling/skiing. AUX protects against wrong keypresses that at worst could stop the gps logging. And AUX is also easy to press - even with gloves - in order to take a quick look at the map. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: howto: making ipk/opk
Aapo Rantalainen wrote: A) There are many broken packages on opkg.org. They can be downloaded and installed and they work. But adding opkg.org repository and installing packages from repository cause Segmentation Faults and Not found errors (opkg error -2). That is an opkg bug, because opkg shouldn't crash just because it gets a bad package. Instead, it ought to give an error message along the lines of broken package. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Feature overview out of the box SHR unstable distribution
Pander wrote: Hi all, I have started a feature overview for out of the box SHR unstable distribution. This will show the current status of the functionality you get after installing SHR and using only the high level GUI to use and manage it. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Stable_Hybrid_Release#Feature_overview This overview is both reflecting the currect status, as is it focussing on basic functionality which should be available on Neo FreeRunner. The page indicates that flight mode isn't available. But one can use SHR settings and turn the GSM modem off. That is flight mode by another name - other equipment shouldn't see radio interference. The phone even works after turning GSM on again, although this takes some time. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.x] Terminal with UTF-8 support wanted
On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 11:21 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Monday, March 02, 2009 a las 11:14:41AM +0100, Olof Sjobergh escribió: Hi, On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: Is there some way to get UTF-8 support? Thx You need to install a UTF-8 locale. To see which locales you have installed, run locale -a Unfortunately, I don't remember the package names for locales. But with an UTF-8 locale installed, I know that at least vala-terminal works and can display UTF-8 encoded text correctly. r...@om-gta02:~# locale -a -sh: locale: not found r...@om-gta02:~# vala-terminal -sh: vala-terminal: not found r...@om-gta02:~# seems that I don't have both :-( any idea? Mine. r...@om-gta02:~# locale -a C POSIX What's this mean? matthias -- Daniel.Li lida_m...@163.com PALFocus (http://palfocus.oicp.net) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.x] Terminal with UTF-8 support wanted
perhpas you can do: which locale and opkg search `which locale` That will list the packages that contains locale Kind regards, @ On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 19:39 +0800, Daniel.Li wrote: On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 11:21 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Monday, March 02, 2009 a las 11:14:41AM +0100, Olof Sjobergh escribió: Hi, On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: Is there some way to get UTF-8 support? Thx You need to install a UTF-8 locale. To see which locales you have installed, run locale -a Unfortunately, I don't remember the package names for locales. But with an UTF-8 locale installed, I know that at least vala-terminal works and can display UTF-8 encoded text correctly. r...@om-gta02:~# locale -a -sh: locale: not found r...@om-gta02:~# vala-terminal -sh: vala-terminal: not found r...@om-gta02:~# seems that I don't have both :-( any idea? Mine. r...@om-gta02:~# locale -a C POSIX What's this mean? matthias ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Feature overview out of the box SHR unstable distribution
Helge Hafting wrote: Pander wrote: Hi all, I have started a feature overview for out of the box SHR unstable distribution. This will show the current status of the functionality you get after installing SHR and using only the high level GUI to use and manage it. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Stable_Hybrid_Release#Feature_overview This overview is both reflecting the currect status, as is it focussing on basic functionality which should be available on Neo FreeRunner. The page indicates that flight mode isn't available. But one can use SHR settings and turn the GSM modem off. That is flight mode by another name - other equipment shouldn't see radio interference. The phone even works after turning GSM on again, although this takes some time. It is more that it is available via easy to controls, i.e. my mother could use it. Hence that the table indicates that it is not yet available. But many things are not yet available, let the table evolve as time over time :) Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Unstable] Dead gstreamer?
The Digital Pioneer wrote: Convert your music to -q4 ogg, mono, and use Tremor. Well, some of us like -q6 and stereo. :-) mplayer may eat a lot of cpu, but skipping is easily dealt with by running mplayer at nice -15, which is higher priority than enlightenment (which runs at nice -10). The phone gets very sluggish for other uses, but the music is fine. The other uses recover their speed immediately when the music stops. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Openmoko FreeRunner Internal details
Hi All, I am trying to fetch the details of my openmoko freerunner phone. I want to write a python or java program and fetch the values and display them on a webpage which I am hosting on my phone itself. I want details like my IMEI number, phone number, present Location from gps etc. Can anyone tell me which python module can lead me towards what i need? Thanks, -Sandy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.x] Terminal with UTF-8 support wanted
El día Monday, March 02, 2009 a las 07:51:26PM +0800, Daniel.Li escribió: ... This means you only have the C and POSIX locales, i.e. no UTF-8 locales. Try to install for example locale-base-en-us or some other language and see if that makes a difference. I've installed now in addition: locale-base-en-gb_2.6.1-r12_armv4t.opk glibc-binary-localedata-en-gb_2.6.1-r12_armv4t.opk but I still have no 'locale' command; the 1st of the above packages does not contain anything and the second some msg files: tar tzf data.tar.gz ./ ./usr/ ./usr/lib/ ./usr/lib/locale/ ./usr/lib/locale/en_GB/ ./usr/lib/locale/en_GB/LC_TIME ./usr/lib/locale/en_GB/LC_NUMERIC ./usr/lib/locale/en_GB/LC_NAME ./usr/lib/locale/en_GB/LC_IDENTIFICATION ./usr/lib/locale/en_GB/LC_MEASUREMENT ./usr/lib/locale/en_GB/LC_COLLATE ./usr/lib/locale/en_GB/LC_MONETARY ./usr/lib/locale/en_GB/LC_PAPER ./usr/lib/locale/en_GB/LC_CTYPE ./usr/lib/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/ ./usr/lib/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/SYS_LC_MESSAGES ./usr/lib/locale/en_GB/LC_ADDRESS ./usr/lib/locale/en_GB/LC_TELEPHONE but they make 'vala-terminal' come up with UTF8 support: r...@om-gta02:~# LANG=en_GB.UTF8 vala-terminal moko-terminal constructed and showing Spanish accented chars. Happy now! Thx a lot; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko FreeRunner Internal details
assuming you use FSO or SHR you can use dbus to query the framework for many of the phone details. web.py offers an excellent light python based web-server and also a web framework - Gunnar sandilya b wrote: Hi All, I am trying to fetch the details of my openmoko freerunner phone. I want to write a python or java program and fetch the values and display them on a webpage which I am hosting on my phone itself. I want details like my IMEI number, phone number, present Location from gps etc. Can anyone tell me which python module can lead me towards what i need? Thanks, -Sandy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes gunnar.grimnes [AT] dfki.de DFKI GmbH Knowledge Management Trippstadter Strasse 122 D-67663 Kaiserslautern Germany Office: +49 631 205 75-117 Mobile: +49 177 277 4397 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Revealing/Hiding my caller id
It does not seem persistent over reboot, even with the new GUI iface of Johny Tenfinger (thanks for that btw !) Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Revealing/Hiding my caller id
It does not seem persistent over reboot, even with the new GUI iface of Johny Tenfinger (thanks for that btw !) the dbus call ahs to be issued at least once after the start of frameworkd -- so, unless frameworkd has an option to do that by itself, you or an app has to do it -- but that means btw, that _all_ calls will be affected. there are *??# or #??# codes to prefix the number with, that suppress the transmission of your number. look for those or ask your provider. numbers where your id should be hidden all the time could then be prefixed in your addressbook. also, it could be an improvement request to the programmer(s) of your calling gui, to have a button or checkbox hide my id in the dial pad. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Revealing/Hiding my caller id
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:29 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: It does not seem persistent over reboot, even with the new GUI iface of Johny Tenfinger (thanks for that btw !) the dbus call ahs to be issued at least once after the start of frameworkd -- so, unless frameworkd has an option to do that by itself, you or an app has to do it -- but that means btw, that _all_ calls will be affected. there are *??# or #??# codes to prefix the number with, that suppress the transmission of your number. look for those or ask your provider. numbers where your id should be hidden all the time could then be prefixed in your addressbook. also, it could be an improvement request to the programmer(s) of your calling gui, to have a button or checkbox hide my id in the dial pad. You seem to want the hide-my-caller-id on a per-number basis, but so far, on every cellphone I've owned, this is done in general: for all calls it is either hidden or shown to the receiving party. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GUI responsiveness (was Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?)
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:44:12 +0100 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no said: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: i really suggest you have a better look at the code. it uses timepoints. Good advice. Critic based on assumptions isn't good enough. Still, the problem remain. The user interface is a bit on the slow side. And it doesn't have to - simplified themes are faster. remember you are just getting e's default upstream theme - it actually works just fine on the more modern devices i have (omap3, 6410 etc.) and looks nice to boot. i am not going to go to a lot of extra work by doing a specially trimmed down theme for the gta02 when i also have other more modern platforms to support across many devices and i want to keep my work down. as the default works - i'm leaving it tat that :) Eye candy is nice - but not when it cause performance problems. eye candy is also nice for showing off a great product - but this backfires when it demonstrates slowness. reality is reality here. it is a slow device. it is open though. but it's slow. i'm not OM's marketing department. :) i'm not here to try make the freerunner look better than it is - i have a level playing field for everything targetted - they all get the same. :) [enlightenment graphichs explanation deleted] Maybe we ought to use a modified duke nukem as an app launcher interface instead of enlightenment. Duke has a _better_ framerate for scrolling and zooming - in 3D! and runs in 8bpp and doesnt alpha blend, doesnt do interpolated scaling. doesnt do a tonne of things. Well, it was a joke. Duke gets much speed from low resolution. Still - it raises questions. Do we want the resolution, 16bpp, alpha blend and so on? it looks good in screenshots. you have a 16bpp screen like it or not anyway. duke render in 8bpp then expands to 16bpp - evas actualyl does the harder. renders in 32bpp and goes down to 16. you can get speed by building without dithering on - or use line dithering that is as fast as none, but offer some level of dither. not good for artificial images, but ok for photos. better than no dither. I happen to like the high resolution and color depth. So perhaps scrolling cannot go really fast in my case, and instead must to big jumps to keep up with finger speed. It'd still be nice if it was more responsive - scrolling start noticeably later than the dragging. there is always a lag - also notice there is an explicit lag too - there is a minimum amount of finger movement before it considers it a scroll. this is just due to the nature of inaccurate finger input. btw - scrolling issues were also a problem of the event loop in some ways and has been fixed in the meantime - but you are unlikely to see those fixes until fso/shr or om2008.x update. (basically it was getting and actually responding to more mouse events than it could handle delaying rendering even more than it should have been 0 i fixed that. it shouldnt have been doing it but somewhere along the way a excess mouse move filter got removed and i dont know when/where so i put one back in). it all went smooth again. Good to hear! Even more to look forward to in future distribution upgrades. :-) [...] I wish people though more about efficiency. One can have all sorts of wonderful effects by precomouting some stuff _once_, and then use plain bit block transfers. 1990 game machines was weaker than the FR, but that did not seem to be a problem then. as per my other mail. the reason i DIDNT do this is that there is a tradeoff - every precompute means u have to store it. storing means using up more ram, and using less cpu. you give up one resource for another. ALSO you need to Right, wasting too much memory is not the way to go either. yup. so this stuff always comes with a big gotcha. use mroe ram, so also now use cpu caches less effectively, and possibly pay a price of cycling the scale caches too often thus negating the benefit. so as such i just have not done it to date as it simply has not turned out an on average win. intelligently differentiate dynamic data vs static. lets say u have a vidoe that changes data every frame - there is zero point in computing a scaled version and making a copy of it to keep as next frame it will be different. same for when the image or data keeps changing size. each frame its a new size. again - pointless to keep a copy. its not so easy just to precompute it makes coding life harder as the programmer now needs to do this in advance. you want the api to figure it out for u and just do it by magic. as i said - i have a patch that added a scalecache that does this, but it also introduced bugs and thus isnt in. i havent had time ot come back to it lately - but its on my todo list. Yes, I understand this is hard to do in the general case. The application launcher's icon collection is a specific case though. The icons seem to be static,
Re: [SHR] Revealing/Hiding my caller id
You seem to want the hide-my-caller-id on a per-number basis, but so far, on seems the most sensible way. when i call a hotline i don't want my number to end up in the database of some marketing dep of the company -- otoh when i call friends i want my number (resp my name, because i am in their address books) to be shown, so they know who call[s|ed]. every cellphone I've owned, this is done in general: for all calls it is either hidden or shown to the receiving party. does that mean we are not allowed to do something more flexible and sensible? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.x] Wanted StarDict for my Openmoko
I'm very interested on having stardict (or its commandline version) too. From this discussion line it's not clear to me if you are using debian or if there is a way to install a debian package in 2008.x, could anyone please clarify this for me? Thanks! 2009/3/1 Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de El día Sunday, March 01, 2009 a las 04:32:56PM +0100, arne anka escribió: ... with all these deps it might be sensible to build the package on its own -- things like scrollkeeper or docbook seem pretty nonsensical to the core functionality. from the screenshots i've seen, i am not sure inhowfar stardict's gui matches the constraints of the fr, though, sdcv might be a better choice. Thx for your hint; I've installed sdcv_0.4.2-9_armel.deb (which needed libreadline.so.5 in addition) but this is working now with my dics and would be sufficient for me; one problem remains: it produces UTF-8 output; is there a xterm in FR which does UTF-8? matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Revealing/Hiding my caller id
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:51 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: You seem to want the hide-my-caller-id on a per-number basis, but so far, on seems the most sensible way. when i call a hotline i don't want my number to end up in the database of some marketing dep of the company -- otoh when i call friends i want my number (resp my name, because i am in their address books) to be shown, so they know who call[s|ed]. every cellphone I've owned, this is done in general: for all calls it is either hidden or shown to the receiving party. does that mean we are not allowed to do something more flexible and sensible? of course not, I was just stating what I'm used to at this point :-) Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Unstable] Dead gstreamer?
True, and that's closer to what I use on my computer. However, I believe the FR is mono anyways, no? And the quality can be dropped a ways (I think so at least) considering that it's playing from a cell phone. It still sounds perfectly clear, or at least as clear as can be expected from those speakers. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 Touchscreen Capacitive (was Re: OT: iPhone howto)
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: Now I know, that I won't want to buy GTA03, even if I had enough money (ok ok, if only i was some millionaire i would buy it, but until i'm not, there are other possibilities to spend money :P). My using scenario of touch screen of Linux based phone needs resistive screen. Capacitive is not an option. But if the GTA03 would have a hardware keyboard and some joystick or trackball or something like this to use as a mouse, then the capacitive screen would not be a problem. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 Touchscreen Capacitive (was Re: OT: iPhone howto)
But if the GTA03 would have a hardware keyboard and some joystick or trackball or something like this to use as a mouse, then the capacitive screen would not be a problem. then it would have been called G1. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
New accelerometer application, that draws the current perpendicular line and angle
Hi Community, I have recently written a little utility, that draws the perpendicular line using the accelerometers. It is based upon SDL and SDL_ttf (for drawing the angle). I hope you can enjoy it, I will soon release a binary package. Here the source code: http://rabenfrost.net/openmoko/perpendicular-0.1.tar.bz2 It only contains a very ugly Makefile, I hope you can manage to compile it. Greetings, Martin Puffe. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Om2009 release plan
Spring a time for new beginnings and we have a plan. An Om2009 release plan that is. For the remainder of March we are going to be integrating. We're going put FSO milestone 5.5, the stable kernel, paroli and the new xorg-glamo drivers together and make our most stable distro ever. Any incomplete features need to be finished and integrated before the end of March. The builds in March will be called Alpha builds, and will receive only partial testing. The following features already have an owner and will be taken care of before the end of March: phone calls incoming and outgoing sms incoming and outgoing simple phone book (no images) call log charging suspend and resume alarm clock resume speed 2 seconds boot time 2 minutes screen lock battery indicator (gta01 and gta02 battery) gsm indicator Then there are still features looking for someone to help bring them in before the end of March: Settings application gprs edge user changeable ring tones bluetooth wifi led indication for missed calls or sms sliding in UI In April we start with Beta builds and full testing. From then on only critical features and bug fixes will be backported into the branch. If you're brave and test with us please use the bug filing procedure below. During the Beta phase in April and May, the phone will become fully functional. Full testing will be weekly at this point to try and nail the stability. Any remaining bugs will need closing. This is when we need to nail all the showstopper bugs and we're going to need your ( the communities help ). Your responsibility will be to find bugs and make sure they get into trac.openmoko.org. When filing a bug : 1) Don't request new features or enhancements during this period. They will slow us down. 2) search 3 different ways to make sure it's not a duplicate. Duplicates will slow us down. The couple of extra minutes you try to search will save us a lot of time and may even find you a solution. During your search if you find bugs that might depend on one another add it to the comments. 3) attach your log files ( anything in /tmp or /var/log that ends in log ). 4) include as much of a description as you can. 5) include patches. They make fixing the bugs easier. At the end of May we'll start generating release candidates (RC builds). If we all pull together we should be able to get it out in the second week of June. If it's not quite right yet we'll keep doing release candidates until it is. I don't want to jinx it by saying the release is going to be Om2009.x ,we'll leave off the x and aim for June. Who's in? And about the enhancements and feature requests I'm serious they kill schedules so if you want us to make it don't ask for anything that's not in the UI spec ( to be released at http://www.paroli-project.org/, shortly I hope ). Angus Ainslie Openmoko Distribution Maintainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Unstable] Dead gstreamer?
It's packaged for OpenWRT, and it shouldn't be difficult to package it for OpenEmbedded, so if it's not, that's easy to fix. Perhaps, but I can't get anything resembling a toolchain going... :\ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: yaml rule to stop suspending when using gps
Hi, Helge Hafting wrote: in addition to the ophonekitd bugs there was also a bug in frameworkd regarding the release of the display resource. Has the fix been sent to FSO? I'm having similar problems on FSO. After I request resource CPU / Display - yhe release does not seem to restart suspending / display dimming. Seems like your fix might sort that out too. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/yaml-rule-to-stop-suspending-when-using-gps-tp2357555p2410291.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button
Hi, Helge Hafting wrote: With SHR, the normal use for AUX is to lock/unlock the screen. This is useful when you can't suspend, but still want to put the phone in a pocket where accidental pressing may happen. Well, I was thinking more of a configurable action - either in rules.yaml (that covers some user cases) or by exposing the functionality in a known way that allows apps to override the normal usage. Also, there could be different uses depending on whether there is one press, two presses or a long press. Maybe a long press could be used as a screen lock - leaving the other two for context based use. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Context-based-usage-of-the-%27AUX%27-button-tp2394031p2410294.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: yaml rule to stop suspending when using gps
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 17:53, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Has the fix been sent to FSO? http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=commit;h=65ebcc86e85980827925588753f47bebf6d4a96e ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.x] Wanted StarDict for my Openmoko
I'm running (as the Subject: says) Om2008.9 im my FR; and yes, you can install in some dirty way *.dep packages in Om2008.x; I do it this way, don't know if there is some other/better way: - untar the *.dep file $ tar xzf sdcv_0.4.2-9_armel.deb - move the resulting file 'data.tar.gz' to the FR and have a look into; - mostly the structure is like this: ./usr ./usr/bin ./usr/bin/sdcv ... i.e. you can just 'cd /' and unpack the content I've now sdcv working in UTF-8 with my Spanish dictionary. So you mean the pre-compiled binary can be run in a different distro as long as it meets the dependencies? That's good to know, thanks. PD:Please don't top-post Sorry about that... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.x] Wanted StarDict for my Openmoko
I've now sdcv working in UTF-8 with my Spanish dictionary. So you mean the pre-compiled binary can be run in a different distro as long as it meets the dependencies? That's good to know, thanks. the armel packages of debian are working with all other distros, too. since the package names to frinst opkg may differ, you could test with ldd which libs are necessary and check with opkg, which packages you need to install. or you just convert the debian packages with alien to simple tar.gz and extract them anywhere you like (/usr/local/ springs to mind). PD:Please don't top-post Sorry about that... and now we all cut the quotes to the parts really necessary instead of simply hitting reply, scrolling down and typing ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 release plan
On Monday 02 March 2009, Angus Ainslie wrote: And about the enhancements and feature requests I'm serious they kill schedules so if you want us to make it don't ask for anything that's not in the UI spec ( to be released at http://www.paroli-project.org/, shortly I hope ). Thanks for keeping us informed of the release schedule! One question related to paroli comes to mind. I tested paroli (from SVN) with FSO 5.1 and noticed that paroli is meant to be running full screen. Is that a temporary requirement? Because it would basically rule out the use of a window manager like illume and would result in having to implement WM, launcher (.desktop), systray, ... functionality in paroli, which would obviously be quite a duplication of effort. Could someone please explain the paroli plans with respect to the fullscreen requirement? Cheers, Florian -- DI Florian Hackenberger flor...@hackenberger.at www.hackenberger.at ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button
Well, I was thinking more of a configurable action - either in rules.yaml (that covers some user cases) or by exposing the functionality in a known way that allows apps to override the normal usage. Also, there could be different uses depending on whether there is one press, two presses or a long press. Maybe a long press could be used as a screen lock - leaving the other two for context based use. AFAIK, scummvm overrides it so it makes an 'F5' pulsation. It ceased to work with 2008.08, but it works again in 2008.12, as I can see. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button
Is THAT how you quit games in ScummVM? I have no idea what F5 does in it, but I haven't figured out how to quit games once I start them, short of killing it from SSH. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community It is THAT how we quit games in ScummVM and how we save and load progress (more importantly). F5 is the key to bring a menu for doing such kind of things, as well as configuring things (and it serves as pause too). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button
Well, I may be able to play Monkey Island on my FR after all. :) One other question, though... Is there a way to skip through long videos or intros? Escape does it on a normal system, but I can't do that for obvious reasons on the Freerunner. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button
Ack, nope, AUX has no effect. I'm seriously wondering if my SHR is just screwed up so that AUX doesn't work at all, since I have not encountered a situation yet where hitting it did anything. Locking doesn't work either, which ticks me off... :\ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New accelerometer application, that draws the current perpendicular line and angle
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 6:03 PM, hab keen oh ne baba_mel...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi Community, I have recently written a little utility, that draws the perpendicular line using the accelerometers. It is based upon SDL and SDL_ttf (for drawing the angle). I hope you can enjoy it, I will soon release a binary package. Here the source code: http://rabenfrost.net/openmoko/perpendicular-0.1.tar.bz2 It only contains a very ugly Makefile, I hope you can manage to compile it. Greetings, Martin Puffe. No, I didn't manage to compile.. I downloaded it to Freerunner, tried ./configure, make etc and nothing happened. How do you make it run? I'd appreciate an ipk/opk package. Thanks! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button
I've had this happen when ScummVM freezes or exits unintentionally. I've found that starting and quitting ScumVM without playing anything brings the AUX lock back. you could also remap the key with xmodmap. On Mar 2, 2009, at 1:17 PM, The Digital Pioneer wrote: Ack, nope, AUX has no effect. I'm seriously wondering if my SHR is just screwed up so that AUX doesn't work at all, since I have not encountered a situation yet where hitting it did anything. Locking doesn't work either, which ticks me off... :\ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button
My broken AUX has nothing to do with ScummVM. AUX hasn't done anything since I flashed SHR-unstable. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button
try this: enlightenment_remote -binding-key-add ANY Keycode-177 NONE 1 simple_lock On Mar 2, 2009, at 1:36 PM, The Digital Pioneer wrote: My broken AUX has nothing to do with ScummVM. AUX hasn't done anything since I flashed SHR-unstable. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 release plan
On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 18:31 +0100, Florian Hackenberger wrote: Thanks for keeping us informed of the release schedule! One question related to paroli comes to mind. I tested paroli (from SVN) with FSO 5.1 and noticed that paroli is meant to be running full screen. Is that a temporary requirement? Because it would basically rule out the use of a window manager like illume and would result in having to implement WM, launcher (.desktop), systray, ... functionality in paroli, which would obviously be quite a duplication of effort. Could someone please explain the paroli plans with respect to the fullscreen requirement? Cheers, Florian Full screen is how paroli is intended to be used. It will not be a WM, launcher etc. It will still co-exist quite nicely with illume and that is how I've been running it for the last few days. Providing a stable phone platform is what paroli is about. Once the UI spec is published it should become a little clearer. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 19:36, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: My broken AUX has nothing to do with ScummVM. AUX hasn't done anything since I flashed SHR-unstable. In /etc/X11/Xserver change vt1 to vt4 on line 116. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button
Well, that got my lock screen back! Thanks!! :D Aux still has no effect on ScummVM as near as I can tell, but I can't get past the dumb intro screen so I don't know for sure... I need another SCUMM game. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GUI responsiveness (was Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?)
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 00:44:01 +1100 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com (CH(R) wrote: remember you are just getting e's default upstream theme - it actually works just fine on the more modern devices i have (omap3, 6410 etc.) Raster, what devices are those? Do they feature a gsm device too? thank you Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Introducing CellHunter (Update 0.4.1)
so if you want collect offline every 10 seconds you have to push: offline mode, auto submit, auto check being on the road today i did remember this issue but not exactly as how to set c.h. properly to collect in offline mode so i also ended up not collecting anything... the offline button has a popup with explanation, could it also have this issue mentioned or include a buton (or autoset) auto check? As also mentioned, number of collected cells would be nice. How does c.h. talk to gps? via gpsd? Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Another attempt at speeding up yaouh, with persistent connections
My last attempt at speeding up yaouh was not only clunky to use, it also drove the cpu load up to 12-15, which made the phone extremely sluggish during the update. This time I took a different approach that keeps the load in the 0.3-0.5 range. There is no more parallelism than what you find in standard yaouh v. 0.4, most of the speedup comes from avoiding network latency. Standard yaouh uses curl to fetch the checksum for one file at a time. My approach have curl downloading all the files in a directory in one operation. This helps a lot, because curl will use persistent connections instead of making a new connection per file. Not having to start a new process for each file helps too. It looks like openstreetmap can have up to 50 files in a directory. The same trick is used for md5sum, as md5sum also is capable of processing several files in one go. This avoid some process startup time as well. Finally, files that aren't up-to-date are downloaded with curl instead of wget. This way one invocation can download all stale tiles in a directory in one go, again utilizing persistent connections. So far this program has checked 5100 files in 12 minutes, and downloaded 260. It looks like it will get through all my 50.000 tiles in under 2 hours. I use wifi, the usb connection may be slower. If anyone want to try, here is the download link. http://www.aitel.hist.no/~helgehaf/openmoko/yaouh_new.py Install yaouh v 0.4 from opkg.org if you don't already have it, so that all dependencies are in place. My modified script should then work. Helge Hafting -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Another-attempt-at-speeding-up-yaouh%2C-with-persistent-connections-tp2411310p2411310.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: unable to get the boot menu
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:56:59 +0100 Bram Mertens mertensb.ma...@gmail.com wrote: So now I have what I believe to be everything I need on the SD but I'm unable to boot it! I've tried several times to follow the instructions on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Booting_the_Neo_FreeRunner as well as those on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Bootloader but I cannot get the device to display the boot menu. From the above I understand that the following should suffice: 1) shut down the device and disconnect it from the computer 2) remove the battery for at least 30 secs 3) press and hold the AUX button 4) press and hold the power button until the boot menu appears The first thing I see is OpenMoko, then the initialization messages scroll by and FDOM is started. (The AUX button flashes once shortly before Openmoko is displayed on the screen.) Just to clarify and be sure: 3) Press and hold down AUX button 4) while AUX is still held down, press and hold power button until the boot menu appears. Then release both buttons. That should present you with the NOR boot menu. The NAND boot menu (the one that can be readily overwritten) is accessed by: 3) Press and hold down Power button 4) while holding down power button, and /before/ booting begins (IE, within 5-6 seconds should be fine) press and hold AUX, then release both buttons after boot menu appears. I've never found the powerdown process to be so sensitive... The issue with external power (step #1 refers to AC power as well as USB-port from a host computer) is that when you plug in, it often starts booting without needing a power press. In this situation, however, if you're holding down the AUX button when you plug it in you'll end up with the boot menu. Other than removing the battery to effect a hard-reset, I've never performed step #2 above. Generally you'd want the NAND boot menu to actually boot, since it's presumably at least as new as the NOR, but potentially much newer, possibly drastically different (Qi vs uBoot). Use the NOR boot menu when flashing, however. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Feature overview out of the box SHR unstable distribution
You should probably specify exactly which image your testing on the Wiki page. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button
Well, that got my lock screen back! Thanks!! :D Aux still has no effect on ScummVM as near as I can tell, but I can't get past the dumb intro screen so I don't know for sure... I need another SCUMM game. You should edit the script that launches scummvm and disable fullscreen mode. So, you can pop the keyboard and skip intros, pause the game or enter information. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Announcing the first programming competition for Openmoko phones
We're announcing the first programming competition for Openmoko phones. You're all invited to participate in the competition to code an audiobook / podcast player. Read the rules and more at http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/announcing-the-first-programming-competition-for-openmoko-phones/ Aapo Rantalainen Risto H. Kurppa ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Another attempt at speeding up yaouh, with persistent connections
O Luns, 2 de Marzo de 2009, Helge Hafting escribiu: My last attempt at speeding up yaouh was not only clunky to use, it also It's really fast now!!! Thank you very much for this great program! -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Context based usage of the 'AUX' button
Works perfectly. :) Now, I get picky: looking at the way the scummvm script changes AUX to F5 and back, is there a way to do the same thing except change the power button to esc and back? I like the fullscreen... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.x] Wanted StarDict for my Openmoko
El día Tuesday, March 03, 2009 a las 01:02:00AM +0700, Alejandro Sáiz escribió: However I get a message: sdcv: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: no version information available (required by sdcv) Does anyone know why? Me too; but for now I'm ignoring it; matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.x] Terminal with UTF-8 support wanted
Try to generate locale youself. Something like localedef --no-archive -c -i es-ES -f UTF-8 es-ES.utf8 2009/3/2, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de: Hello, I need in my FR a Terminal which can handle UTF-8 output; r...@om-gta02:~# DISPLAY=:0 export DISPLAY r...@om-gta02:~# LANG=es_ES.UTF-8 export LANG r...@om-gta02:~# openmoko-terminal2 (openmoko-terminal2:1887): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Using the fallback 'C' locale. moko-terminal constructed (openmoko-terminal2:1887): Vte-WARNING **: can not run /usr/libexec/gnome-pty-helper update_toolbar current font size for terminal is 5 on_idle on_idle_first_command analog for 'xterm'; Is there some way to get UTF-8 support? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 release plan
On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 09:14 -0700, Angus Ainslie wrote: During the Beta phase in April and May, the phone will become fully functional. Full testing will be weekly at this point to try and nail the stability. Any remaining bugs will need closing. This is when we need to nail all the showstopper bugs and we're going to need your ( the communities help ). Your responsibility will be to find bugs and make sure they get into trac.openmoko.org. Well there's the first oops in the plan. The correct url for bug filing would be : http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GUI responsiveness (was Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?)
On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:01:51 +0100 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz said: On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 00:44:01 +1100 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ras...@rasterman.com (CH(R) wrote: remember you are just getting e's default upstream theme - it actually works just fine on the more modern devices i have (omap3, 6410 etc.) Raster, what devices are those? Do they feature a gsm device too? maybe. maybe not. this is the point where you will just be guessing. :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] To build a better music player
O Xoves, 26 de Febreiro de 2009, Dylan Reilly escribiu: FYI, there is a new version of pythm available on opkg.org I only miss one little thing When you add an entire directory to playlist, tracks are alphabetically ordered, but, if exists, they should be ordered by track # (from ID3 or ogg tags). I have a lot of disks without track number on track name, only identified by track# on id3/ogg -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:da...@garabana.com Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 release plan
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:14:56 -0700 Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: The following features already have an owner and will be taken care of before the end of March: phone calls incoming and outgoing sms incoming and outgoing simple phone book (no images) call log charging suspend and resume alarm clock resume speed 2 seconds boot time 2 minutes screen lock battery indicator (gta01 and gta02 battery) gsm indicator Then there are still features looking for someone to help bring them in before the end of March: Settings application gprs edge user changeable ring tones bluetooth wifi led indication for missed calls or sms sliding in UI Two questions. What about package management GUI - is one planned to be included? Can you clarify sliding in UI? j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 release plan
I think package management GUI can be included in Settings application. And for the wifi feature, I recommend the knjMokoWifi which using PHP-GTK. It works very well and with comprehensive interface. On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us wrote: On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:14:56 -0700 Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: The following features already have an owner and will be taken care of before the end of March: phone calls incoming and outgoing sms incoming and outgoing simple phone book (no images) call log charging suspend and resume alarm clock resume speed 2 seconds boot time 2 minutes screen lock battery indicator (gta01 and gta02 battery) gsm indicator Then there are still features looking for someone to help bring them in before the end of March: Settings application gprs edge user changeable ring tones bluetooth wifi led indication for missed calls or sms sliding in UI Two questions. What about package management GUI - is one planned to be included? Can you clarify sliding in UI? j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Programmer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] To build a better music player
* The cannot set suspend messages are OK. They are there in debug output for the sake of debugging. Pythm requests CPU resource from FSO to halt suspending during playback. Frameworkd is smart enough to only allow one lock per process. That message is FSO telling pythm that. * I fixed the volume problem in 0.5.5. Please upgrade to that version. * Thank you for the bug about the directory structure. I will look into handling that better. Eventually pythm will be able to remember things like directories on its own (without /etc/pythm.conf). I am planning to add some sort of session memory. * I agree that the files should be sorted by track number. Sorting by file name was step 1. The original pythm had no sorting. This is a known TODO. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 4:48 AM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Dylan Reilly wrote: I am not seeing this problem. Can you look through /etc/pythm.log and see if there is anything interesting in there, or send it to me? $ pythm No Locale found, falling back! Error was:[Errno 2] No translation file found for domain: 'pythm' new conf using gstreamer backend /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py:242: DeprecationWarning: object.__init__() takes no parameters super(Connection, self).__init__(*args, **kwargs) error executing:[Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/media/card/Music/Albums' (The last message is ok, I have my music in a different directory. Usually, navigating there is possible though. But now, the up button does nothing and the file list is empty. After quitting, this happens:) delete event occurred destroy signal occurred Exception in thread Thread-2 (most likely raised during interpreter shutdown): Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/python2.6/threading.py, line 522, in __bootstrap_inner File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pythm/backend/backend.py, line 496, in run type 'exceptions.TypeError': 'NoneType' object is not callable Exception in thread Thread-3 (most likely raised during interpreter shutdown): Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/python2.6/threading.py, line 522, in __bootstrap_inner File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pythm/backend/backend.py, line 496, in run type 'exceptions.TypeError': 'NoneType' object is not callable Exception in thread Thread-1 (most likely raised during interpreter shutdown): Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/python2.6/threading.py, line 522, in __bootstrap_inner File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/pythm/backend/backend.py, line 496, in run type 'exceptions.TypeError': 'NoneType' object is not callable And here is /tmp/pythm.log : 2009-03-02 10:35:40,663 DEBUG Unable to set no suspend: org.freesmartphone.Usage.UserUnknown: User :1.30 did not request CPU before releasing it 2009-03-02 10:36:31,734 DEBUG Unable to set no suspend: org.freesmartphone.Usage.UserUnknown: User :1.30 did not request CPU before releasing it Nothing about my problems, but it apparently have problems turning off suspend. Maybe SHR changed this part? I changed the music directory in /etc/pythm.conf. This time, the album list came up. It'd be nice if a wrong album directory still allows one to go up in the directory structure - one can then navigate manually to were the music is. This was possible before. Playing the music still fails. I get the correct song length displayed, and the seconds counts up. But I can't hear anything, even if I turn the volume to 100%. With or without earphones makes no difference. Output from pythm: $ pythm No Locale found, falling back! Error was:[Errno 2] No translation file found for domain: 'pythm' new conf using gstreamer backend /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py:242: DeprecationWarning: object.__init__() takes no parameters super(Connection, self).__init__(*args, **kwargs) (pythm-bin:11766): GStreamer-WARNING **: Name volume is not unique in bin player, not adding (pythm-bin:11766): GStreamer-WARNING **: Name volume is not unique in bin player, not adding Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/python2.6/logging/__init__.py, line 754, in emit msg = self.format(record) File /usr/lib/python2.6/logging/__init__.py, line 637, in format return fmt.format(record) File /usr/lib/python2.6/logging/__init__.py, line 425, in format record.message = record.getMessage() File /usr/lib/python2.6/logging/__init__.py, line 295, in getMessage msg = msg % self.args TypeError: not all arguments converted during string formatting (pythm-bin:11766): GStreamer-WARNING **: Element output is not in bin player The logfile now shows this: $ cat /tmp/pythm.log 2009-03-02 10:39:41,165 DEBUG Unable to set no suspend: org.freesmartphone.Usage.UserUnknown: User :1.31 did not request CPU before releasing it 2009-03-02 10:40:15,658 DEBUG Going to play song: /media/card/musikk/Pink Floyd - The Wall/02 The Thin Ice.ogg
Re: Fwd: unable to get the boot menu
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 00:31:54 +0100 Bram Mertens mertensb.ma...@gmail.com wrote: I've tried several times again. After removing the battery for several minutes the device automatically boots when the battery is replaced. By the time I've turned the device around after replacing the back cover the openmoko logo is already displayed. (The device was not connected to any computer.) So I've shut the device down again by pressing the power button for several seconds. Without removing the battery but waiting some 30 seconds: 1) press and hold AUX 2) press and hold power after about 4 seconds the AUX button lights up, about 2 seconds later the openmoko logo is displayed and after that the device boots I released both buttons as soon as the openmoko logo was displayed. Again power down the device 1) press and hold power 2) press (and hold) AUX approx 2 seconds after pressing power before the openmoko logo is displayed again the device boots without displaying any kind of boot menu Is it possible to reconfigure the wait time of the boot menu via the device? I can't find anything in the settings menu or any terminal application that would allow me to execute commands. Regards Bram Maybe someone else will have a brighter idea, but all I can suggest at this point is unplug, remove battery, then hold down AUX while inserting battery. If that doesn't work, but it just boots right up instead, then try to confirm that the AUX button is functional, as I'm starting to suspect a bum button. If that's the case I've no idea what solution is feasible. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Feature overview out of the box SHR unstable distribution
I agree, with Phone Log you have an overview log. That's great! But this is the only way you have to realize you have missed calls. Could it be possible to notify missed calls by a notification screen? Or even better, could it be possible to notify them by an icon on top shelf? Some new top shelf gadget as clock, wifi or gsm. Raster, could this gadget be possible in illume? :) And maybe another icon to notify unread sms, instead of see the unread sms' content in the screen. Since anybody near the Freerunner can read it. Regards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Another attempt at speeding up yaouh, with persistent connections
2009/3/3 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no: too. It looks like openstreetmap can have up to 50 files in a directory. So far this program has checked 5100 files in 12 minutes, and downloaded 260. It looks like it will get through all my 50.000 tiles in under 2 hours. I use wifi, the usb connection may be slower. If anyone want to try, here is the download link. http://www.aitel.hist.no/~helgehaf/openmoko/yaouh_new.py awesome, that's lots faster by the way, i don't know if it's important or not, but iirc osm folder structure has up to 128000 files per folder, for zoom 17 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 release plan
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:40:21 -0700 Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 18:31 +0100, Florian Hackenberger wrote: Thanks for keeping us informed of the release schedule! One question related to paroli comes to mind. I tested paroli (from SVN) with FSO 5.1 and noticed that paroli is meant to be running full screen. Is that a temporary requirement? Because it would basically rule out the use of a window manager like illume and would result in having to implement WM, launcher (.desktop), systray, ... functionality in paroli, which would obviously be quite a duplication of effort. Could someone please explain the paroli plans with respect to the fullscreen requirement? Cheers, Florian Full screen is how paroli is intended to be used. It will not be a WM, launcher etc. It will still co-exist quite nicely with illume and that is how I've been running it for the last few days. Providing a stable phone platform is what paroli is about. Once the UI spec is published it should become a little clearer. Angus I've always envisioned a sideways swipe switching from 'desktop' to fullscreen 'phone'/'home' GUI... :) j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 release plan
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:08:31 +0800 HouYu Li kara...@gmail.com wrote: I think package management GUI can be included in Settings application. And for the wifi feature, I recommend the knjMokoWifi which using PHP-GTK. It works very well and with comprehensive interface. Package management is something I think of as a fairly independent thing, rather than part of Settings. Granted its UI could be called up from within a settings panel or something, but its purpose, usage, and design seem distinctly apart from what I think most people consider settings. Regardless, given the variety and nature of the things itemized I wondered if it had accidentally been omitted, and if so which list it was on. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GUI responsiveness (was Re: SHR first impression : it's slow ?)
Raster, what devices are those? Do they feature a gsm device too? maybe. maybe not. this is the point where you will just be guessing. :) :) OK, i understand. cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
